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Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 02, 2015, 10:37:51 AM
From 4% to 16%?!?

http://www.dickmorris.com/here-comes-bernie-sanders-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 16, 2015, 11:45:09 AM
http://www.salon.com/2015/06/16/america_is_feeling_the_bern_bernie_sanders_draws_overflow_crowds_and_surges_in_the_polls/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 12, 2015, 08:29:11 AM
As polls now show Bernie beating Hillary in NH, , ,
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People who follow politics probably know that Bernie Sanders, the U.S. senator from Vermont who is challenging Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination, is a socialist. Whether they give a fig is a separate matter, which may tell you something about today’s Democrats.

Mr. Sanders is currently drawing the largest crowds of any candidate in either party. On Monday, he drew a crowd his campaign estimated at 27,500 to the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena, including those in an overflow area outside, watching on giant video screens. Over the weekend, 28,000 people turned out to see him in Portland, Ore., and a campaign stop in Seattle pulled 15,000. The conventional wisdom is that Mr. Sanders’s bid is destined to fail. His progressive base is too white and too small for a party that places a premium on “diversity,” and the Democratic establishment has already settled on Mrs. Clinton.

All true, perhaps. The disruption of his Seattle appearance by “Black Lives Matter” protesters suggests that challenges lie ahead for him. But it is also true that no one is saying Bernie Sanders can’t win because America isn’t ready to elect an avowed socialist as president, which might have been the case not too long ago.

Mr. Sanders, a New York City native, moved to Vermont in 1968 after becoming involved with the radical left while attending the University of Chicago. He first ran for Senate in 1972 as the candidate of the socialist Liberty Union Party and garnered just 2% of the vote. He lost a few more statewide races, and then eked out a 10-vote victory in 1981 to become mayor of Burlington. In 1990, running as an independent, he became only the third socialist ever elected to the U.S. House of Representatives. The one preceding him—Victor Berger of Wisconsin—left office in 1929.

Berger was a founding member of the Socialist Party of America, which nominated labor leader Eugene Debs for president five times between 1900 and 1920. The first part of the 20th century was socialism’s heyday. Debs never won a state but he did win almost 6% of the popular vote in 1912, and the party elected about 1,200 candidates to local offices during that period. The socialists, however, with their calls for income redistribution and the nationalization of resources, were never able to compete with Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s coalition of Big Labor, blacks and rural whites in the South.

In 1932, the Socialist Party won just 2% of the vote, and in 1936 it managed less than half of 1%. Depression-era Democrats wanted economic growth, not a cradle-to-grave welfare state. When a 1935 Gallup poll asked voters to assess the amount of government spending on relief and recovery, only one in 10 said spending was too low, and the respondents who said spending was too high outnumbered those who said it was adequate by 2 to 1.

“Socialist parties blossomed in every important country in Europe in the second half of the nineteenth century, mobilizing mass support for expanding the power of the state, both to provide welfare services (such as pensions) and to restrain the power of the market,” write John Micklethwait and Adrian Wooldridge in their 2004 history of U.S. politics, “The Right Nation.” “But in America socialists cast their seed on barren ground.”

Notwithstanding FDR’s New Deal and Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society programs, the authors note, when Ronald Reagan won the presidency in 1980 “on a wave of resentment against ‘big government,’ the United States had a lower tax rate, a smaller deficit as a proportion of GNP, a less developed welfare state and fewer government-owned industries than any other western industrialized nation.”

If the Democratic Party once felt the need to distinguish itself from socialism, that no longer seems to be the case. When Mr. Sanders entered Congress in 1991, “Democrats initially balked at accepting a Socialist in their caucus,” according to the “Almanac of American Politics.” Eventually, however, he was granted seniority status as a Democrat, and he used it to push a progressive agenda that included tax increases, single-payer health care, a 50% reduction in military spending and a national energy policy.

It was working-class voters who backed Debs a century ago, but Mr. Sanders’s socialism appeals mainly to upper-middle-class professionals and fits neatly within the parameters of mainstream, income-inequality-obsessed Democratic politics in the 21st century. He may have an affinity for a political ideology that has given the world everything from the Soviet Gulag to modern-day Greece, but in this age of Obama, the senator is just another liberal with a statist agenda.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the head of the Democratic National Committee, was visibly rattled when MSNBC host Chris Matthews asked her recently to explain “the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist.”

Her nonresponse: “The more important question is, ‘What is the difference between being a Democrat and being a Republican?’ ”

Mr. Matthews pressed her: “I used to think there was a big difference. What do you think it is? A Democrat like Hillary and a Socialist like Bernie Sanders.” Ms. Wasserman Schultz refused to answer. And why should she? These days, it’s largely a distinction without a difference.

Mr. Riley, a Manhattan Institute senior fellow and Journal contributor, is the author of “Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed” (Encounter Books, 2014).
Title: Newt on Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 14, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
Take Bernie Sanders Seriously
Originally published at the Washington Times

It is time to take Bernie Sanders seriously. It is increasingly possible that the 73-year-old socialist from Vermont could be a real contender for the Democratic Party’s nomination for president.

For months observers have scoffed at the idea.

Now we have a poll in New Hampshire which shows Sanders ahead of Hillary Clinton by 44 to 37.

Granted, New Hampshire is next to Vermont. Granted, it is only one poll.

In March, however, Sanders had 8 percent to Clinton's 44 percent. Clinton appeared to be among the most inevitable nominees ever for a non-incumbent.
This is quite a turnaround.

Furthermore, in the same period that Sanders overtook Clinton in New Hampshire, we learned that Clinton had been subpoenaed and forced to turn her email server over to the FBI. The very stories of corruption, sloppiness, and arrogance which have been dragging down her campaign for months are guaranteed to continue. Every day there is another example of Clinton problems.

Sanders, however, is much more than simply the anti-Clinton candidate. This week he drew a crowd of more than 27,000 people in Los Angeles. That is extraordinary.
The reason has less to do with Clinton than with the large and growing left-wing of the Democratic Party which dislikes compromise, Wall Street, big money, and politics as usual. As Matt Bai reported in his brilliant book The Argument, the Democrats have a powerful anti-war, hard-line environmentalist, social activist wing that helped defeat Clinton in 2008.

Bernie Sanders is a genuine socialist and that makes his messages very clear and very direct.

Sanders also has been a practicing politician for a long time. As Mark Steyn has noted, Sanders has spent years building a political machine as a socialist without a party or a large interest group to back him.

As a student, Sanders was a member of the Young People's Socialist League. He began running for public office more than 40 years ago. Finally, in 1981, he was elected mayor of Burlington, Vermont. As mayor of the state’s largest city he had a base on which to build his career. In 1990, he defeated a Republican to become Vermont’s lone congressman. Since Vermont has only one representative, the district is the same as a Senate seat. In 2006, after 16 years in the House, Sanders won the Senate seat.

This is a man who has been winning elections for 34 years. He is serious, energetic and determined.

He is also a good organizer.

As the Washington Post reports, he has been using the internet to build amazing crowds.

In three days he had 70,000 supporters show up in three west coast states, a long way from Vermont and New Hampshire.

He is doing all of this without spending much money.

And as Hillary Clinton gets weaker, he is getting stronger.

The left wing of the Democratic Party is not afraid to nominate a socialist. The left wing of the Democratic Party is socialist.

Everyone should realize that with six more months of Clinton corruption and confusion and six more months of pleasant, steady, and positive ideas from Bernie, the Democrats could easily find themselves on the edge of nominating a self-described socialist for President.

By then it may be too late for someone else to compete.

The last time this happened to the Democrats, they nominated George McGovern even though Hubert Humphrey and others tried to step in at the last minute.

The time to take Sanders seriously is now.

Your Friend,
Newt
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: G M on August 15, 2015, 06:00:07 PM
It's nice to see the dems embrace their true socialist core.
Title: Sanders says America founded on racist principles
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 14, 2015, 10:42:14 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/09/14/bernie-u-s-born-on-racist-principles.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page
Title: Re: Sanders says America founded on racist principles
Post by: G M on September 14, 2015, 03:39:32 PM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/09/14/bernie-u-s-born-on-racist-principles.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page

Awesome! I'd love to see the Sanders campaign fit that on a bumpersticker.
Title: WSJ: $18T price tag on BS's proposals
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 15, 2015, 08:07:34 AM
Price Tag of Bernie Sanders’s Proposals: $18 Trillion
Democratic presidential candidate’s agenda would greatly expand government
Sen. Bernie Sanders is proposing an array of federal government programs to fight poverty and income inequality that amount to at least $18 trillion in new spending over a decade. Photo: Associated Press
By Laura Meckler
Sept. 14, 2015 6:58 p.m. ET
1098 COMMENTS

WASHINGTON—Sen. Bernie Sanders, whose liberal call to action has propelled his long-shot presidential campaign, is proposing an array of new programs that would amount to the largest peacetime expansion of government in modern American history.

In all, he backs at least $18 trillion in new spending over a decade, according to a tally by The Wall Street Journal, a sum that alarms conservatives and gives even many Democrats pause. Mr. Sanders sees the money as going to essential government services at a time of increasing strain on the middle class.

His agenda includes an estimated $15 trillion for a government-run health-care program that covers every American, plus large sums to rebuild roads and bridges, expand Social Security and make tuition free at public colleges.

To pay for it, Mr. Sanders, a Vermont independent running for the Democratic nomination, has so far detailed tax increases that could bring in as much as $6.5 trillion over 10 years, according to his staff.
ENLARGE

A campaign aide said additional tax proposals would be offered to offset the cost of some, and possibly all, of his health program. A Democratic proposal for such a “single-payer” health plan, now in Congress, would be funded in part through a new payroll tax on employers and workers, with the trade-off being that employers would no longer have to pay for or arrange their workers’ insurance.

Mr. Sanders declined a request for an interview. His campaign referred questions to Warren Gunnels, his policy director, who said the programs would address an array of problems. “Sen. Sanders’s agenda does cost money,” he said. “If you look at the problems that are out there, it’s very reasonable.”
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Calling himself a democratic socialist, Mr. Sanders has long stood to the left of the Democratic Party, and at first he was dismissed as little more than a liberal gadfly to the party’s front-runner, Hillary Clinton. But he is ahead of or tied with the former secretary of state in the early-voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire, and he has gained in national polling. He stands as her most serious challenger for the Democratic nomination.

Mr. Sanders has filled arenas with thousands of supporters, where he thunders an unabashedly liberal agenda to tackle pervasive economic inequality through more government services, higher taxes on the wealthy and new constraints on banks and corporations.

“One of the demands of my campaign is that we think big and not small,” he said in a recent speech to the Democratic National Committee.

Enacting his program would be difficult, if not impossible, given that Republican control of the House appears secure for the foreseeable future. Some of his program would be too liberal for even some centrist Democrats. Still, his agenda articulates the goals of many liberals and is exerting a leftward pressure on the party’s 2016 field.

The Sanders program amounts to increasing total federal spending by about one-third—to a projected $68 trillion or so over 10 years.

For many years, government spending has equaled about 20% of gross domestic product annually; his proposals would increase that to about 30% in their first year. As a share of the economy, that would represent a bigger increase in government spending than the New Deal or Great Society and is surpassed in modern history only by the World War II military buildup.

By way of comparison, the 2009 economic stimulus program was estimated at $787 billion when it passed Congress, and President George W. Bush’s 2001 tax cuts were estimated to cost the federal treasury $1.35 trillion over 10 years.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders explains the 18 trillion cost
Post by: DougMacG on September 16, 2015, 09:22:21 AM
Where is the Republican fast response team on this?  The view of Bernie Sanders, Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Cass Sunstein, etc. is a threat to the republic as we knew it.  Better be able to explain why they are wrong (rather than just wait for Hillary to implode).

It is naive (or just stupid) to think Sanders is too left to win in America, when the furthest left Senator before him just won twice.  Of course ha can win - unless we have learned something.

Republicans are going to face intense scrutiny and ridicule in the msm and leftists like this are going to get a pass.  Until we figure out how to change that, we play under their rules.

Sanders says he is just shifting private spending to public spending, and will tax the productive sector of the economy to death without figuring in any negative impact from that.  So  what's the big deal?
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/09/15/bernie_sanders_responds_to_wsj_claim_his_social_programs_would_cost_18_trillion.html

MITCHELL: Now, today's "Wall Street Journal" itemizes what they say would be the price tag of what you are proposing, the social programs.  $18 trillion over ten years. Is that sustainable given the economy, given where the budget is and the deadlock in Congress?

SANDERS: Andrea, that is not the reality. We will be responding to "The Wall Street Journal" on that.

I think most of the expense that they put in there, the expenditures have to do with the single payer health care system. They significantly exaggerated the cost of that and they forgot to tell the American people in that article that that means eliminating the costs that you incur with private health insurance.

The truth of the matter is right now, as a nation, we spend far, far more on health care per person than do the people of any other nation and yet we continue to have about 30 million people who have no health insurance, many more who are underinsured and we pay, again, by far the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs.

No question to my mind that moving toward a Medicare for all single payer program is the most cost-effective way to provide health care to all of our people.

Second point, which they really didn't get into, is we are going to demand that the wealthiest people and the largest corporations in this country do start paying their fair share of taxes.

When we have massive income and wealth inequality, when 58 percent of all new income is going to the top 1 percent, when you have major corporations in a given year paying zero in federal income taxes, yes, we need real tax reform to bring in substantially more revenue so in fact that we can make sure that every kid in this country who has the ability can go to college, because we are going to make public colleges and universities tuition-free.
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"58 percent of all new income is going to the top 1 percent"

Oddly, that is what happens under leftist taxation, wealth by crony government stimulus, and leftist limits on economic freedom, not what happens under the old Dem idea that 'a rising tide lifts all boats'.

Economic studies consistently show the inability of redistribution tax and spend policies to change inequality.  (See political economics thread)  Whether it is Hillary, Sanders, Biden or whoever, the mantra is: 'double down on failure'.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders, the foreign policy mayor
Post by: DougMacG on September 16, 2015, 09:30:53 AM
As mayor of Burlington, Vermont during the Reagan administration, Burlington City Hall hosted a foreign policy speech by Noam Chomsky. In his introduction, Sanders praised Chomsky as "a very vocal and important voice in the wilderness of intellectual life in America" and said he was "delighted to welcome a person who I think we're all very proud of."
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/the-bernie-effect-noam-chomsky-says-sanders-will-push-the-entire-democratic-party-to-the-left/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvZRsdHgxgA
Title: Casesar's Wife
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 28, 2015, 10:03:19 AM
http://www.thepcgraveyard.com/2015/07/11/bernie-sanders-wife-could-face-prison-for-defrauding-vermont/
Title: Can't say he was wrong on this one
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 09, 2015, 04:42:33 PM
https://www.facebook.com/senatorsanders/videos/10154277974087908/
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders v. Uber
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 28, 2015, 12:03:37 AM
https://reason.com/blog/2015/08/07/bernie-sanders-says-he-has-serious-probl
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 12, 2016, 05:33:49 PM
Well, if Slick Hillie is indicted we may be hearing more about Bernie , , ,

In the meantime, ponder this:  Why is he beating various Rep candidates in match ups?!?
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders is for property rights after all
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 16, 2016, 08:40:58 PM
http://boingboing.net/2016/01/15/facepalm-bernie-sanders-campa.html
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders is for property rights after all
Post by: G M on January 16, 2016, 09:49:15 PM
http://boingboing.net/2016/01/15/facepalm-bernie-sanders-campa.html

"You kids, get off mah inter webs lawn!"
Title: A little bit of history about Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 17, 2016, 04:13:59 PM
http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/
Title: Re: A little bit of history about Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: G M on January 17, 2016, 08:18:15 PM
http://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/

After Obama, being a blatant communist isn't a disqualifier.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: ccp on January 18, 2016, 05:09:25 AM
Hollywood must be so proud of him.

All they ever do is remind us about the evils of McCarthism and the "black list" when many many hollywood types were communist sympathizers.  So what has changed?

campaign phrases;

"make American great again"

"hope and change"

"f..k the millionaires and billionaires"

He is the second Jew running for the highest office, Joe Leiberman being the first.  But Bernie is the first schmuck
Title: "I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”
Post by: DDF on January 18, 2016, 06:54:39 AM
He's right inasmuch as this country is indeed ripe for political revolution.

We need three political zones. Socialist, Traditional, and Anything Goes.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-radical-past-how-the-vermont-230255076.html
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders on MSNBC appeals to Trump voters
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 18, 2016, 07:57:03 PM
https://www.facebook.com/NateMezmerMusic/videos/10153212994652441/
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders shifting sands on gun freedom
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 19, 2016, 10:47:33 AM
"A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate." —Thomas Jefferson, 1774
TOP RIGHT HOOKS
Democrats Want to Strip Immunity From Gun Companies
 

Socialist Bernie Sanders was surprisingly moderate about the issue of gun control last May. The Washington Post wrote of Sanders' position then, "When socialism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a concealed firearm — without a permit." Among the issues, Sanders voted on a National Rifle Association-backed bill in 2005 that affirmed gun companies had immunity if one of their firearms were used in a crime or murder — just like a car company would have if someone decided to drive the car into a crowd of people. But Hillary Clinton, the "realistic progressive," believes that she has a backdoor policy that could dismantle the gun industry: remove that immunity from the nation's firearms manufacturers. Her plan would choke up their legal teams with lawsuit after lawsuit when guns are used for illegal acts, not just when manufacturing defects cause firearms to fail.

This week, Sanders, who said he's running "an issue-oriented campaign," indicated he is moving toward Clinton's position. Democrats in Congress introduced a law that would roll back essential parts of the 2005 immunity law and hours before Sunday's debate Sanders said he would support it. He said in the debate that he'd "support stronger provisions," but he doesn't want to make it so a small, community gun shop is liable if it sold a gun later used in a crime. But that's beside the point. The First Amendment is protected by legislation that prevents the sue-happy from muzzling someone's free-speech rights, though the Left regularly attacks free speech and religious liberty. Clinton's idea of stripping gun companies' immunity and siccing lawyers upon them is no less unconstitutional.
Title: Bernie's taxes
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 19, 2016, 10:50:22 AM
Third post
Title: Bernie Sanders: "I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”
Post by: DougMacG on January 21, 2016, 08:36:04 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-radical-past-how-the-vermont-230255076.html

Important read.  Don't anyone assume this guy is harmless, especially when he leads Hillary in the first two contests and leads the R frontrunner by 15 points!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/295919133/NBC-WSJ-January-Poll
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders: "I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”
Post by: G M on January 21, 2016, 08:38:05 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-radical-past-how-the-vermont-230255076.html

Important read.  Don't anyone assume this guy is harmless, especially when he leads Hillary in the first two contests and leads the R frontrunner by 15 points!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/295919133/NBC-WSJ-January-Poll

How could he not? It's what commies believe.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders: "I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”
Post by: DDF on January 21, 2016, 12:18:07 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-radical-past-how-the-vermont-230255076.html

Important read.  Don't anyone assume this guy is harmless, especially when he leads Hillary in the first two contests and leads the R frontrunner by 15 points!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/295919133/NBC-WSJ-January-Poll

How could he not? It's what commies believe.

Hear, hear....
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders, underwhelming
Post by: DougMacG on January 27, 2016, 09:54:04 AM
Report from the Bernie Sanders appearance in St. Paul last night from a young supporter who attended:

'The rally was fun but she didn't hear anything she hadn't heard from him before.'

The media was more apparently more excited than the attendees:
http://www.startribune.com/sanders-wows-crowds-in-duluth/366619091/
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc2/watch/live-sanders-takes-campaign-to-minnesota-609473603526
http://www.inforum.com/news/3933527-thousands-pack-bernie-sanders-campaign-events-minnesota
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders, underwhelming
Post by: G M on January 27, 2016, 10:07:05 AM
Report from the Bernie Sanders appearance in St. Paul last night from a young supporter who attended:

'The rally was fun but she didn't hear anything she hadn't heard from him before.'

The media was more apparently more excited than the attendees:
http://www.startribune.com/sanders-wows-crowds-in-duluth/366619091/
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc2/watch/live-sanders-takes-campaign-to-minnesota-609473603526
http://www.inforum.com/news/3933527-thousands-pack-bernie-sanders-campaign-events-minnesota

He's saving the dynamic stuff about class traitors and the kulaks once he makes it to the general election.
Title: Bill Clinton's Labor Secretary says Bernie can win
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 27, 2016, 09:36:10 PM
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/videos/1142259599119968/
Title: Re: Bill Clinton's Labor Secretary says Bernie can win
Post by: DougMacG on January 28, 2016, 08:21:39 AM
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/videos/1142259599119968/

Robert Reich is an idiot and a leftist but he is right on this.  Not only can Bernie win, he is winning.  He is poised to beat Hillary in the first two contests while she is poised to face charges or a pardon for mismanagement of the last job she held and deadlines have passed for others to jump in.  Bernie leads the R frontrunner by double digits nationwide.  If it is Trump and Sanders and Bloomberg steps in , it will be the so called advocate for the little guy against two fat cat billionaires.  A perfectly set table for Bernie Sandinistas.

(http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/28/bernie-sanders-supported-socialist-sandinistas-honeymooned-in-ussr/)

Title: A zen koan for Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 28, 2016, 01:30:29 PM
What is whiter?  A Sanders rally or the Oscars?
Title: Sandernistas define socialism
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 02, 2016, 05:59:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqAm2BG_Ouk
Title: The appeal of Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 05, 2016, 09:35:48 PM
We better be ready for this:

https://www.facebook.com/ezraklein/videos/10153962372523410/
Title: heh heh
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 06, 2016, 07:28:29 AM
https://www.facebook.com/ginalee.kister/videos/1083220158389732/
Title: Re: The appeal of Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: G M on February 06, 2016, 10:01:31 AM
We better be ready for this:

https://www.facebook.com/ezraklein/videos/10153962372523410/

Why does Bernie want to turn America into the kind of country his father fled?
Title: Re: The appeal of Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: DougMacG on February 06, 2016, 10:56:26 AM
We better be ready for this:

https://www.facebook.com/ezraklein/videos/10153962372523410/

Why does Bernie want to turn America into the kind of country his father fled?

(http://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2016/02/JFK-free-shit.jpg)
Title: Bernie gets burned
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 07, 2016, 10:58:17 AM
http://prntly.com/blog/?p=4838
Title: Mayor Sanders of Burlington
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 08, 2016, 07:54:22 PM
http://www.thenation.com/article/bernies-burlington-city-sustainable-future/
Title: 13 reasons to vote Bernie
Post by: G M on February 09, 2016, 06:33:58 AM
https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/02/08/13-reasons-millennials-should-vote-for-bernie-sanders/?singlepage=true

Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: ccp on February 09, 2016, 06:42:20 AM
GM,

LOL vote for bern and we crash and burn
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 10, 2016, 01:59:12 PM
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/02/after-sanders-big-win-in-new-hampshire-establishme.html
Title: Bernie and the Rev. Al
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 10, 2016, 02:12:36 PM
https://www.facebook.com/EnemiesOfLiberalism/photos/a.310586372408546.1073741828.310559449077905/769892353144610/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: ccp on February 10, 2016, 02:40:15 PM
I still don't get where this guy gets his power from - Sharpton.  Why he goes to WH 150 times.

Why everyone seems to need to court him.

Just don't get it.

A large number of Blacks know he is a charlatan.

 :|
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 10, 2016, 04:21:36 PM
Answer:  Master of playing on white guilt.
Title: Bernie gets the money out of politics
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 10, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
https://www.facebook.com/NationInDistress/photos/a.226861490778020.57363.226821494115353/783229941807836/?type=3&theater
Title: ROTFLMAO
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 10, 2016, 08:03:34 PM
https://www.facebook.com/RepublicanThinker/photos/a.578132598886471.1073741828.577743125592085/1136213156411743/?type=3&theater
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders passed just 3 bills and 2 of them renamed post offices
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 10, 2016, 08:07:59 PM
Third post

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261736/bernie-sanders-only-passed-3-bills-2-renamed-post-daniel-greenfield
Title: Mayor Bernie Sanders up from the memory hole
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 11, 2016, 05:59:49 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/meganapper/sanders-in-1985-sandinista-leader-impressive-castro-totally#.ui4ooP2aO
Title: Bernie Sanders, Socialism is not as hot as its Spokesman
Post by: DougMacG on February 11, 2016, 06:52:13 PM
Instapundit Glenn Reynolds, USA Today, http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/02/11/glenn-reynolds-socialism-bernie-sanders-young-millennial-voters-column/80169668/#
USA TODAY
OPINION
Glenn Reynolds: Socialism not as hot as its spokesman

Glenn Harlan Reynolds

Socialism is all the rage among America’s youth. Or is it?

The evidence in favor of that proposition is that Bernie Sanders — despite being considerably older than Hillary Clinton, who is herself no spring chicken — is doing vastly better among young voters. Sanders, who has almost always identified as a socialist, is nonetheless running for the Democratic nomination.
(Sanders is, he says, a “democratic socialist.” A socialist is someone who wants politicians to decide who gets what; a “democratic socialist” wants the politicians to at least stand for election first.)

The result has been for many smart people, like Joel Kotkin, to write that Millennials are heeding the ”siren call of socialism.” And socialism does have a siren call — essentially, the promise that if you vote for socialists, they’ll take stuff away from other people and give it to you. Since many people would rather have free stuff given to them in the name of “fairness” than have to work to get their own stuff, it’s never hard to round up votes with that approach. As the saying goes, a government that robs Peter to pay Paul can count on getting Paul’s vote.

Still, it’s concerning, because the history of the 20th century was basically that of the swath of destruction left across the globe by socialist ideas, from the international socialism of the Bolsheviks and the Soviet Union to the national socialism of Adolf Hitler and his National Socialist German Workers' Party.
Socialism usually starts with talk of “fairness,” but it generally ends in tyranny and poverty. As Alan Kors wrote back in 2003: “No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: ‘No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into.’”

Nowadays, of course, the horrors of socialism are largely forgotten. As Nate Silver writes:
"Bernie Sanders proudly describes himself as a 'socialist' (or more commonly, as a 'democratic socialist'). To Americans of a certain age, this is a potential liability. I’m just old enough (38) to have grown up during the Cold War, a time when 'socialist' did not just mean 'far left' but also implied something vaguely un-American. If you’re older than me, you may have even more acutely negative associations with 'socialism' and may see it as a step on the road to communism. If you’re a few years younger than me, however, you may instead associate ‘socialism’ with the social democracies of Northern Europe, which have high taxes and large welfare states. Sweden may not be your cup of tea, but it isn’t scary in the way the USSR was to people a generation ago.

"Indeed, views of socialism are highly correlated with a voter’s age. According to a May 2015 YouGov poll, conducted just before Sanders launched his campaign, a plurality of voters aged 18 to 29 had a favorable view of socialism. But among voters 65 and older, just 15% viewed socialism favorably, to 70% unfavorably."

And even the Nordic democracies resent the term “socialist.” Denmark’s Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen even took exception to Sanders’ characterization of the Danes as socialists, commenting: “I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy." Rasmussen conceded that “the Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security to its citizens,” but he insisted that it is “a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish.” Sweden, too, has become more free-market than it was in the 1960s.

Want real socialism? Look at Venezuela, an oil-exporting nation that is now dead broke even as the family of its socialist dictator, Hugo Chavez, reportedly somehow inherited billions at his death in 2013. Redistribution of wealth often seems to involve redistributing most of it to the people on top of the socialist pyramid.

But there’s some good news, according to Silver: Even though young Americans say they like socialism, they also say that they don’t like redistribution of wealth. Writes Silver: “It’s possible that Sanders will trigger a shift toward more support for economic redistribution in the future, but there hasn’t been one yet.” The percentage of young Americans who support redistributing wealth is almost the same as it was in 1996.

So since you can’t have socialism without redistribution of wealth (with a large part being retained by the redistributors, of course) then what’s this all about? Silver notes that those young Americans supporting Bernie Sanders have a lot in common with the young Americans who support another older figure with heterodox economic views, libertarian Ron Paul: “What’s distinctive about both the Sanders and Ron Paul coalitions is that they consist mostly of people who do not feel fully at home in the two-party system but are not part of historically underprivileged groups. On the whole, young voters lack political influence. But a young black voter might feel more comfortable within the Democratic coalition, which black political leaders have embraced, while a young evangelical voter might see herself as part of a wave of religious conservatives who long ago found a place within the GOP. A young, secular white voter might not have a natural partisan identity, however, while surrounded by relatively successful peers.”
So at this point, the enthusiasm for Sanders may be as much a search for something different as it is an endorsement of Sanders’ 1930s-era economic views. Given the failure of the two party establishments, it’s not entirely surprising that young people are looking elsewhere. Their votes are up for grabs, for those who are willing and able to offer something different. For the sake of the country, let’s hope those votes are won by people who are able to offer something different, and constructive, at the same time.

Glenn Harlan Reynolds, a University of Tennessee law professor, is the author of The New School: How the Information Age Will Save American Education from Itself, and a member of USA TODAY's Board of Contributors.

Copyright Gannett 2016
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders' Sources
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 12, 2016, 10:52:35 PM

By Laura Meckler And
Rebecca Ballhaus
Feb. 12, 2016 1:14 p.m. ET
39 COMMENTS

WASHINGTON—In nearly every speech, Bernie Sanders reminds voters that he doesn’t have a super PAC, doesn’t want money from Wall Street and rejects establishment politics.

Yet the Vermont senator has benefited from at least $1.5 million in backing from super PACs and from political groups that don’t have to fully disclose their donors, according to filings with the Federal Election Commission.

As a member of Congress, he regularly attended retreats with Wall Street lobbyists and other donors, and as a candidate for the Senate, he benefited from money that indirectly came from them. Last year, he directly accepted about $55,000 in Wall Street contributions for his Democratic presidential campaign, FEC filings show.

To be sure, former secretary of state Hillary Clinton has raised far more from Wall Street donors, taking in $2.9 million last year, and the super PACs helping her collected $14.3 million from financial firms, about 30% of their total haul, according to an analysis from the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. She has helped raise money for her primary super PAC, while Mr. Sanders hasn’t raised funds for outside groups. Overall, Mrs. Clinton raised $112 million last year, compared with $75 million raised by Mr. Sanders.

Mrs. Clinton says outside contributions supporting her campaign don’t influence her judgment. Mr. Sanders says that, for him, such contributions don’t exist. “I’m the only candidate up here…who has no super PAC,” he said Thursday during a Democratic debate.

He may not have formed one of his own, but Mr. Sanders is getting help from National Nurses United for Patient Protection, a super PAC that gets its money from the nation’s largest nurses’ union, with nearly 185,000 members.
Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont walked through downtown Concord, N.H., on Feb. 9. ENLARGE
Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont walked through downtown Concord, N.H., on Feb. 9. Photo: Spencer Platt/Getty Images

The union doesn’t have to disclose its donors, but a spokesman said the super PAC money comes exclusively from members’ dues. Representatives from the union have frequently joined the senator at events and this week launched a bus tour across South Carolina ahead of the state’s Feb. 27 primary. At an Iowa campaign stop, Mr. Sanders thanked the group for being “one of the sponsors” of his campaign.

In a five-minute video posted online by the nurses union in October, Mr. Sanders said he was “honored” to have the union’s support and highlighted his work on its members’ behalf. He promised to make it a “national priority” to focus on issues important to the union, including training more nurses. A spokesman for the union said the video was screened at its October convention.

Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs said labor unions have long worked for candidates, and that this one is working to ensure health care for all. “You’re talking about nurses, nurses, one of the most trusted professions in the country,” he said, “versus millionaires and billionaires on Wall Street.”

But Mrs. Clinton’s supporters also can point to labor support for her super PAC. At least $7 million given to Priorities USA Action came from labor unions, including $1 million last year from the American Federation of Teachers.

The battle over the influence of special interests began in earnest in New Hampshire. Mr. Sanders has been suggesting that Mrs. Clinton is influenced by Wall Street campaign donations. On Monday, she replied by drawing attention to Mr. Sanders’s 2006 race for the Senate, when he benefited from $200,000 in contributions from the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, known as the DSCC, which is charged with electing Democrats—and accepts significant contributions from Wall Street interests.

“Sen. Sanders took $200,000 from Wall Street firms, not directly but through the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee,” she told a rally in Manchester. “You know, there was nothing wrong with that. It hasn’t changed his view. Well, it didn’t change my view or my vote, either.”

Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver responded by pointing to much larger Wall Street contributions benefiting Mrs. Clinton. He said the money from the DSCC comes from many places including individuals, labor and environmental groups. “To say that every nickel that Bernie received came from Wall Street is beyond preposterous,” Mr. Weaver said.

Five of the top 20 givers to the DSCC in the 2006 election cycle were Wall Street firms, two were law firms and the rest were senators’ political committees. The top giver that year was Mrs. Clinton’s campaign committee, which gave $2 million. Goldman Sachs Group gave $685,050.

Mr. Sanders has also regularly attended the DSCC’s retreats, either during the winter in Florida or during summer on Martha’s Vineyard, including one as recently as July. Guests at the retreats are donors who have donated the maximum amount to the party, or raised more than $100,000. Many attendees are lobbyists, lawyers and members of the financial industry.

Similarly, at the 2008 Democratic National Convention, Mr. Sanders attended a luncheon with a group of roughly 30 senators and donors who had given the maximum to the DSCC for five years in a row, or a total of $500,000. The group was called the “Legacy Circle,” had been organized by New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, a Democrat, with the goal of enticing more donors to pass that threshold.

Several donors who have attended the retreats said Mr. Sanders fully participated in the events, including socializing, and didn’t take the opportunity to tell Wall Street lobbyists that, as he says on the stump, their industry’s business model is fraud.

“He was just like any other senator hobnobbing with lawyers and lobbyists from DC,” said Rebecca Geller, a Washington attorney who attended with her husband, a financial services lobbyist. Ms. Geller, who has donated to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, said Mr. Sanders was happy to take photos with her family. “My kids have fond memories of him hanging out by the hot tub.”

—Colleen McCain Nelson contributed to this article.

Write to Laura Meckler at laura.meckler@wsj.com and Rebecca Ballhaus at Rebecca.Ballhaus@wsj.com
Title: Bernie's national socialism
Post by: G M on February 20, 2016, 05:01:41 PM
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/02/18/meet-the-leader-of-the-national-socialist-american-workers-party/
Title: Sanders the Commie
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 21, 2016, 04:54:43 PM
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/underneath-bernies-democratic-socialism-hides-a-dangerous-communist-revolutionary
Title: Democrat Economists rip the proposals of Bernie Sanders
Post by: DougMacG on February 26, 2016, 10:52:17 AM
Before Bernie rides off into the sunset it is important to recognize that his policies would only make things worse, just like Obama's did.
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https://lettertosanders.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/open-letter-to-senator-sanders-and-professor-gerald-friedman-from-past-cea-chairs/

We are former Chairs of the Council of Economic Advisers for Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. For many years, we have worked to make the Democratic Party the party of evidence-based economic policy. ...

We are concerned to see the Sanders campaign citing extreme claims by Gerald Friedman about the effect of Senator Sanders’s economic plan—claims that cannot be supported by the economic evidence. Friedman asserts that your plan will have huge beneficial impacts on growth rates, income and employment that exceed even the most grandiose predictions by Republicans about the impact of their tax cut proposals.

As much as we wish it were so, no credible economic research supports economic impacts of these magnitudes. Making such promises runs against our party’s best traditions of evidence-based policy making and undermines our reputation as the party of responsible arithmetic. These claims undermine the credibility of the progressive economic agenda ...

lan Krueger, Princeton University, Chair, Council of Economic Advisers, 2011-2013

Austan Goolsbee, University of Chicago Booth School, Chair, Council of Economic Advisers, 2010-2011

Christina Romer, University of California at Berkeley, Chair, Council of Economic Advisers, 2009-2010

Laura D’Andrea Tyson, University of California at Berkeley Haas School of Business, Chair, Council of Economic Advisers, 1993-1995
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If they truly are "evidence-based economists", when will they speak out against Obama's failed policies and false claims too!?
Title: Forked Tongue Warren endorses Sandernista
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 29, 2016, 06:39:55 PM
http://www.nytimes.com.8i69.clonezone.link/warren-endorses-sanders
Title: She is wasting her time.
Post by: ccp on February 29, 2016, 06:43:06 PM
Doesn't matter.  He is done.

The only thing that could stop Hillary is event akin to Scalia's. 
Title: Re: Forked Tongue Warren endorses Sandernista
Post by: DougMacG on March 01, 2016, 09:10:57 PM
http://www.nytimes.com.8i69.clonezone.link/warren-endorses-sanders

Why did she endorse Sanders [more power at the base than in the establishment] and why did she wait until just after he lost to do it [professional courtesy]?


When a leftist tries to hold a leftist to the leftist agenda, do you call it 'keeping her honest'?
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: ccp on March 02, 2016, 07:50:34 AM
Doug ,  good question.

Why endorse now at this late hour?  Trying to get Clinton to move left thinking she would try to get Warren's endorsement?   Then when that achieved as much as it could ( we all know that it doesn't matter what any Clinton says today ; it could be the opposite tomorrow) then throw a life line to the one she wanted?

If Trump had only been more of a gentlemen he might not have so many negatives. 

As far as being a conservative that, is another issue.
Title: Sanders panders for the Muslim vote in Michigan
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 07, 2016, 10:58:38 PM
http://www.dailywire.com/news/3952/sanders-dearborn-muslims-israels-existence-blame-robert-kraychik
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders is a real handful!
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 09, 2016, 03:01:05 PM
https://www.facebook.com/mark.montana.94/videos/10209088078148566/
Title: The comments are also interesting
Post by: ccp on March 09, 2016, 03:38:43 PM
There is a comment below the above Sanders video by a man who says ,  "as a black man I am saddened by the fact I have a 1/3 chance of going to jail"

This is an example of their warped logic.  Just because one in 3 blacks commit crimes and wind up in jail does not mean this guys' chances of going to jail is 1 in 3.  As long as he doesn't commit a crime his chances of going to jail is ZERO.   Oh I get it.  Police are going around the country rounding up blacks and throwing them in jail for no reason.  OK
 
What is it with blacks that they are always making excuses and blaming someone else for their lot and actions?

Nearly every other immigrant or minority group is blowing past them in life.  That says it all.

The entitlement mentality or the victim mentality is just endless.  If we pay then each 50 K or 100K reparations will that satisfy them ?  What's the deal?
Title: When Bernie Sanders Thought Castro and the Sandinistas Could Teach America a Le
Post by: G M on March 10, 2016, 06:09:04 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/28/when-bernie-sanders-thought-castro-and-the-sandinistas-could-teach-america-a-lesson.html?via=desktop&source=twitter

When Bernie Sanders Thought Castro and the Sandinistas Could Teach America a Lesson

As mayor of Burlington, Sanders praised the regimes of Nicaragua and Cuba—claiming bread lines were a sign of economic health and press censorship was necessary in wartime.
After the ISIS-orchestrated bloodbath in Paris last November, CBS News informed the three Democratic presidential candidates that a forthcoming debate it was hosting would be shifting focus from domestic to foreign policy.
It seemed like an uncontroversial decision. But it was enough to send Bernie Sanders’s campaign into paroxysms of panic. During a conference call with debate organizers, one Sanders surrogate launched into a “heated” and “bizarre” protest, complaining that CBS was trying to “change the terms of the debate…on the day of the debate,” according to a Yahoo News source.
Still, the clamor from Bernie’s camp wasn’t that bizarre. Bernie understands that the frisson Sanderistas audiences experience isn’t activated by conversations about the Iran nuclear deal. No, Sanders disciples are slain in the spirit by repeated-ad-infinitum sermons about billionaires twisting mustaches, adjusting monocles, and jealously guarding their “rigged system.” It was this message that vaulted Sanders from the mayor’s office to Congress and into the Senate. But foreign-policy questions, The New York Times noted, had a habit of pushing him “out of his comfort zone.”

So here we are: The candidate accused of not caring about foreign policy was the same politico who, years ago, was routinely accused of preferring foreign affairs to the tedium of negotiating overtime pay with the local firefighter’s union. Indeed, after he was elected mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Sanders turned the town into a fantasy foreign-policy camp. In his 1997 memoir, Outsider in the House, he asked, “how many cities of 40,000 [like Burlington] have a foreign policy? Well, we did.”
What were the policies and ideas that animated his small-town internationalism? In a recent interview with CNN’s Chris Cuomo, Sanders was asked about a comment he made in 1974 calling for the CIA’s abolition. He qualified, hedged, and offered a potted history of CIA meddling in the affairs of sovereign countries, all while arguing half-heartedly that his views had long-since evolved toward pragmatism.
If CNN can ambush Sanders by reaching back to 1974 and his not-entirely-unreasonable criticism of the CIA, perhaps another enterprising television journalist will ask the candidate-of-consistency one of the following questions:
— Do you think that American foreign policy gives people cancer?
— Do you think a state of war—be it against the Vietnamese communists, Nicaraguan anti-communists, or al Qaeda’s Islamists—justifies the curtailment of press freedoms?
— Do you stand by your qualified-but-fulsome praise of the totalitarian regime in Cuba? Do you stand by your unqualified-and-fulsome praise of the totalitarian Sandinista regime in Nicaragua?
— Do you believe that bread lines are a sign of economic health?
— Do you think the Reagan administration was engaged in the funding and commissioning of terrorism?
A weird palette of questions, sure, but when Sanders was mayor of Burlington, he answered “yes” to all of them. Hidden on spools of microfilm, buried in muffled and grainy videos of press conferences and public appearances, Mayor Sanders enumerated detailed—and radical—foreign-policy positions and explained his brand of socialism. (If you find foreign-policy debates tedious, feel free to ask Sanders if he still believes that “the basic truth of politics is primarily class struggle”; that “democracy means public ownership of the major means of production”; or that “both the Democratic and Republican parties represent the ruling class.”)
In the 1980s, any Bernie Sanders event or interview inevitably wended toward a denunciation of Washington’s Central America policy, typically punctuated with a full-throated defense of the dictatorship in Nicaragua. As one sympathetic biographer wrote in 1991, Sanders “probably has done more than any other elected politician in the country to actively support the Sandinistas and their revolution.” Reflecting on a Potemkin tour of revolutionary Nicaragua he took in 1985, Sanders marveled that he was, “believe it or not, the highest ranking American official” to attend a parade celebrating the Sandinista seizure of power.
It’s quite easy to believe, actually, when one wonders what elected American official would knowingly join a group of largely unelected officials of various “fraternal” Soviet dictatorships while, just a few feet away, Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega bellows into a microphone that the United States is governed by a criminal band of terrorists.
None of this bothered Sanders, though, because he largely shared Ortega’s worldview. While opposition to Reagan’s policy in Central America—including indefensible decisions like the mining of Managua harbor—was common amongst mainstream Democrats, it was rare to find outright support for the Soviet-funded, Cuban-trained Sandinistas. Indeed, Congress’s vote to cut off administration funding of the anti-Sandinista Contra guerrillas precipitated the Iran-Contra scandal.
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But despite its aversion to elections, brutal suppression of dissent, hideous mistreatment of indigenous Nicaraguans, and rejection of basic democratic norms, Sanders thought Managua’s Marxist-Leninist clique had much to teach Burlington: “Vermont could set an example to the rest of the nation similar to the type of example Nicaragua is setting for the rest of Latin America.”
The lesson Sanders saw in Nicaragua could have been plagiarized from an editorial in Barricada, the oafish Sandinista propaganda organ. “Is [the Sandinistas’] crime that they have built new health clinics, schools, and distributed land to the peasants? Is their crime that they have given equal rights to women? Or that they are moving forward to wipe out illiteracy? No, their crime in Mr. Reagan’s eyes and the eyes of the corporations and billionaires that determine American foreign policy is that they have refused to be a puppet and banana republic to American corporate interests.”
But Sanders was mistaking aspirational Sandinista propaganda for quantifiable Sandinista achievement. None of it was true, but it overlaid nicely on top of his own political views. Sanders’s almost evangelical belief in “the revolution” led him from extreme credulity to occasional fits of extreme paranoia.
For instance, in 1987 Sanders hosted Sandinista politician Nora Astorga in Burlington, a woman notorious for a Mata Hari-like guerilla operation that successfully lured Gen. Reynaldo Perez-Vega, a high-ranking figure in the Somoza dictatorship, to her apartment with promises of sex. Perez-Vega’s body was later recovered wrapped in a Sandinista flag, his throat slit by his kidnappers. When Astorga died in 1988 from cervical cancer, Sanders took the occasion to publicly praise Astorga as “a very, very beautiful woman” and a “very vital and beautiful woman,” positing that American foreign policy might have given her cancer. “I have my own feelings about what causes cancer, and the psychosomatic aspects of cancer,” he said. “One wonders if the war didn’t claim another victim; a person who couldn’t deal with the tremendous grief and suffering in her own country.”
(Sanders often lurched toward conspiracy theory to make banal historical events conform to an ideological narrative. He argued that Ronald Reagan was as Manchurian president created by millionaires who run corporations: “Some millionaires in California said ‘Ron, we want you to work for us. We want you to become governor.’ They sat around a table. A dozen millionaires. They made him governor. And then they made him president. And he did his job effectively for those corporations.”)
The conflict in Nicaragua exacerbated Sanders’s more extreme positions. He asked a group of University of Vermont students to consider how “we deal with Nicaragua, which is in many ways Vietnam, except it’s worse. It’s more gross.” His answer was to raise money and civilian materiel for the revolution, establish a sister city program in Nicaragua, and act as a mouthpiece for the Sandinista government.
The local Vermont journalist corps, with whom Sanders had an extraordinarily contentious relationship, occasionally questioned Sanders on Nicaragua’s increasingly dictatorial drift.
In 1985 Sanders traveled to New York City to meet with Ortega just weeks after Nicaragua imposed a “state of emergency” that resulted in mass arrests of regime critics and the shuttering of opposition newspapers and magazines. While liberal critics of Reagan’s Nicaraguan policy rounded on the Sandinistas (talk-show host Phil Donahue told Ortega that his actions looked “fascist”), Sanders refused to condemn the decision. He was “not an expert in Nicaragua” and “not a Nicaraguan,” he said during a press conference. “Am I aware enough of all the details of what is going on in Nicaragua to say ‘you have reacted too strongly?’ I don’t know…” But of course he did know, later saying that the Sandinistas’ brutal crackdown “makes sense to me.”
What “made sense” to Sanders was the Sandinistas’ war against La Prensa, a daily newspaper whose vigorous opposition to the Somoza dictatorship quickly transformed into vigorous opposition of the dictatorship that replaced it. When challenged on the Sandinistas’ incessant censorship, Sanders had a disturbing stock answer: Nicaragua was at war with counterrevolutionary forces, funded by the United States, and wartime occasionally necessitated undemocratic measures. (The Sandinista state censor Nelba Blandon offered a more succinct answer: “They [La Prensa] accused us of suppressing freedom of expression. This was a lie and we could not let them publish it.”)
To underscore his point, Sanders would usually indulge in counterfactual whataboutism: “If we look at our own history, I would ask American citizens to go back to World War II. Does anyone seriously think that President Roosevelt or the United States government [would have] allowed the American Nazi Party the right to demonstrate, or to get on radio and to say this is the way you should go about killing American citizens?” (It’s perhaps worth pointing out that La Prensa never printed tutorials on how to kill Nicaraguans. And it’s also worth pointing out that in 1991, Sanders complained of the “massive censorship of dissent, criticism, debate” by the United States government during the Gulf War.)
Or how about the Reagan counterfactual: “What would President Reagan do if buildings were being bombed? If hospitals were being bombed? If people in our own country were being killed? Do you think President Reagan would say, ‘of course we want the people who are killing our children to get up on radio and explain to the citizens of the country how they are going to kill more of our people?’”
Or perhaps Abraham Lincoln can convince you: “How many of you remember what happened in the American Civil War and Abraham Lincoln’s feeling about how you have to fight that war? And how much tolerance there was in this country, during that war, for people who were not sympathetic to the Union cause?”
While Freedom House and Amnesty International agitated on behalf of La Prensa, Sanders was making excuses for the government that censored its articles, prevented it from buying newsprint, harassed its staffers, and arrested its journalists. “The point is,” he argued, “in American history the opposition press talking about how you could kill your own people and overthrow your own government was never allowed…Never allowed to exist.”
The Burlington Free Press mocked Sanders for playing the role of internationalista dupe and lampooned him for expressing, after just a brief, government-guided tour of Nicaragua, “such approval of the Sandinistas on the basis of what was at best a cursory inspection,” an instinct that “says more about his naïveté in the foreign policy field than anything else.”
Sanders countered that he was free to quiz real Nicaraguans on their political allegiances, but they “laughed” when he asked which party they backed because “of course they are with the government.” When asked about the food shortages provoked by the Sandinistas’ voodoo economic policy, Sanders claimed that bread lines were a sign of a healthy economy, suggesting an equitable distribution of wealth: “It’s funny, sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is, that people are lining up for food. That is a good thing! In other countries people don’t line up for food: the rich get the food and the poor starve to death.” When asked about Nicaragua’s notoriously brutal treatment of the Miskito Indians, the Free Press noted that Sanders “attempted to cut off” the line of questioning. (Ted Kennedy called the Sandinistas’ crimes against the indigenous Miskitos “unconscionable,” “intolerable,” and “disturbing,” commenting that they were relocated at gunpoint to “forced-labor camps which resemble concentration camps.”)
Through the Mayor’s Council on the Arts, Sanders tried to bring some revolutionary third-worldism to Vermont when he funded cable-access television that showed “films from Cuba [and] daily television fare from Nicaragua.” At a press conference, Sanders highlighted the grants that allowed the importation of “films produced in Nicaragua, that appear on Nicaraguan [state] television, on Channel 15. We have films from Cuba on Channel 15.”
Ah, yes, let us not forget the democratic socialist Shangri-La in Havana. In 1989 Sanders traveled to Cuba on a trip organized by the Center for Cuban Studies, a pro-Castro group based in New York, hoping to come away with a “balanced” picture of the communist dictatorship. The late, legendary Vermont journalist Peter Freyne sighed that Sanders “came back singing the praises of Fidel Castro.”
“I think there is tremendous ignorance in this country as to what is going on in Cuba,” Sanders told The Burlington Free Press before he left. It’s a country with “deficiencies,” he acknowledged, but one that has made “enormous progress” in “improving the lives of poor people and working people.” When he returned to Burlington, Sanders excitedly reported that Cuba had “solved some very important problems” like hunger and homelessness. “I did not see a hungry child. I did not see any homeless people,” he told the Free Press. “Cuba today not only has free healthcare but very high quality healthcare.”
Sanders had a hunch that Cubans actually appreciated living in a one-party state. “The people we met had an almost religious affection for [Fidel Castro]. The revolution there is far deep and more profound than I understood it to be. It really is a revolution in terms of values.” It was a conclusion he had come to long before visiting the country. Years earlier Sanders said something similar during a press conference: “You know, not to say Fidel Castro and Cuba are perfect—they are certainly not—but just because Ronald Reagan dislikes these people does not mean to say the people in these nations feel the same.”
There is, of course, a mechanism to measure the levels of popular content amongst the campesinos. Perhaps it’s too much to expect a democratic socialist to be familiar with the free election, a democratic nicety the Cuban government hasn’t availed itself of during its almost 60 years in power.
But Sanders has long been attracted to socialist countries that eschewed democracy. He recalled “being very excited when Fidel Castro made a revolution in Cuba” in 1959. “It just seemed right and appropriate that poor people were rising up against a lot of ugly rich people.” In an interview with The Progressive, almost 30 years later, Sanders was still expressing admiration for the Cuban dictatorship: “And what about Cuba? It’s not a perfect society, I grant, but there aren’t children there going hungry. It’s been more successful than almost any other developing country in providing health care for its people. And the Cuban revolution is only 30 years old. It may get even better.”
During his tenure as mayor, Burlington established sister-city programs in Nicaragua and the Soviet Union, and tried—and failed—to create one in Cuba.
By the 1980s, certain elements of the radical left were still defending the honor of the Cuban revolution. But few had kind words for the Soviet Union, with most political pilgrims having long since wandered to Cuba, Vietnam, China, and Cambodia. And Sanders too was routinely critical of the Kremlin, criticizing the invasion of Afghanistan and acknowledging the lack of freedom in the Soviet Union, while still managing a bit of socialist fraternity, praising Moscow for constructing the “cleanest, most effective mass transit system I have ever seen in my life…you wait 15 seconds in rush hour between trains.” He was “impressed” by the state-run youth programs “which go far beyond what we do for young people in this country.”
Sanders has long claimed to be a “democratic socialist”—the type of lefty who loves Sweden, but is offended by the totalitarian socialism that dominated during the Cold War—but he has long employed the tepid language of “imperfection” when discussing the criminal failures of undemocratic socialism. Totalitarians with unfriendly politics are correctly met with derision and thundering demands for extradition and prosecution. So Sanders succinctly described the Chilean murderer, torturer, and destroyer of democracy Augusto Pinochet as a “mass murderer, torturer, and destroyer of democracy.” And Filipino dictator Ferdinand Marcos is rightly tagged as a “crook and murderer.”
Perhaps at this point I don’t need to point out that Fidel Castro is likewise a crook and a murderer. Or that Sandinista strongman Daniel Ortega, while achieving none of the milestones Bernie Sanders once claimed he had achieved, stole enormous amounts of money from the Nicaraguan people and was, to name just one example, behind the infamous bombing at La Penca which killed seven people (including three journalists).
So to my fellow journalists: the next one of you who gets caught in one of Sanders’s riffs about the CIA’s involvement in the overthrow of Iranian leader Mohammed Mossadegh, ask him one of my questions. Ask him how consistent he has been on foreign policy. And help him answer a question posed by a Burlington Free Press journalist in 1985, who wondered if his useful idiot trip to Nicaragua would come back to haunt him in a future race.
“The answer is ‘probably.’ But I’ll be damned if I know how.”
Title: WaPo: Sen. Bernie Sanders foreign policy realist vs. EDC neocon
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 10, 2016, 01:14:19 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy-realist/2016/03/08/c7f3422e-e48a-11e5-a6f3-21ccdbc5f74e_story.html
Title: Morris: Sanders surging
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 15, 2016, 08:39:33 AM
http://www.dickmorris.com/sanders-surging-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports
Title: #FeeltheBreadLine
Post by: G M on March 19, 2016, 09:05:46 AM
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2016/03/feelthebreadline.html

Friday, March 11, 2016
#FeeltheBreadLine
Posted by Daniel Greenfield

After Bernie Sanders visited the Marxist Sandanista regime in Nicaragua on a propaganda tour, he argued that the bread lines in major cities were a good thing. “American journalists talk about how bad a country is, that people are lining up for food. That is a good thing!”

The bread lines had been caused by the radical regime’s socialist agricultural policies of land seizures from farmers. Those farmers who refused to be drawn into Soviet-style communal farms rebelled, along with Indian and Creole racial minorities, and became the core of the Contras, the heroic resistance fighters whose mass murders at the hands of Sandinista terrorists were cheered by American leftists.

What had been productive farmland vanished into a warren of newly invented government agencies run by leftist university graduates with no agricultural background obsessed with seizing land, but with no idea of how to run it. The remaining farmers were forced into grinding poverty by a government purchasing monopoly while the profits went not to their farms, but to the political class of the Sandanistas who lived in luxury while farmers fled and city workers waited on bread lines.

Think of them as the Bernie Bros of Nicaragua. Except they wore khaki fatigues, not pajamas. And instead of angrily tweeting, they marched their victims into churches and set them on fire.

The unfortunates that the Democratic Party’s aspiring top Socialist saw lining up for bread were the victims of a regime that had destroyed the country through socialist thievery. And he learned absolutely nothing from the experience. Just as the Sandinistas had learned nothing from the Soviet Union and Venezuela’s Socialists learned nothing from the Sandinistas so that once again today crowds wait for bread, milk and toilet paper in an oil-rich country that has run out of everything except Socialists.

“You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants when children are hungry in this country,” Sanders sneered last year.

But it’s the scarcity that the smelly Socialist is shoving at Americans that leads to children going hungry. A choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants means a lot of jobs manufacturing, marketing, stocking and selling them. Those jobs, not Bernie’s self-righteous posturing, allow parents to feed their children.

Children aren’t going hungry in America because we have too many types of deodorant, but because too much of our manufacturing backbone was destroyed by leftist redistributionist policies.


Bernie Sanders’ plan is to double down on failure by adding $15 trillion in taxes. Tax hikes averaging $9,000 would gut the income of American workers and lower household after-tax income by 12 percent. The middle class would lose 8.5% of after-tax income to Bernie Sanders’ insatiable government greed.

This would be the largest tax increase in American history outside of a war. But some days it seems as if Americans have lost a war without a shot being fired and that these are the wages of the occupation.

The Sanders socialist top tax rate proposal goes to 54 percent, but in the past he has favored a 100 percent tax rate. Back in the seventies, he proposed to “make it illegal to amass more wealth than a human family could use in a lifetime” and to seize any income over one million dollars a year.

That would effectively get rid of the underarm spray deodorant factories, not to mention most other manufacturing jobs and agriculture with it. It’s a formula for creating bread lines along the same lines as the Marxist regimes that Bernie Sanders admired.

Sanders was still pushing a 100 percent tax in 1992. It’s a safe bet that his current tax hike proposals are a starting point for massive redistribution from all classes, from the top to the bottom, to the political class of the government that he represents. Given the opportunity, he will get to 100 percent.

Even before all that, Sanders is pushing a carbon consumption tax. Carbon taxes effectively raise the prices of everything, stealing from working families from the supermarket to the job market.

Food prices have already risen sharply under Obama. The dirty secret of the carbon tax is its impact on the price of food. And if that isn’t bad enough, environmentalists have been salivating over the idea of a special tax on what they call “greenhouse-gas-intensive food” which would permanently put meat out of the reach of working families. To the left, such a brutalization of the working class is its most attractive feature.

CBO accounting found that the regressive carbon hoax tax hits low income families hardest. That should bury the myth that Bernie Sanders is fighting for the poor. Liberals fight for the poor the way that KFC fights for chickens.

As the Tax Policy Center analysis puts it, Bernie’s big carbon tax would force “households and businesses to take account of the environmental costs of their activities.” The Big Green beatings will continue until the morale of the workers improves.

The left claims that its carbon tax schemes will offer all sorts of aid to the poor. But what that really means is shoving more working families onto public assistance. Like the Sandinistas, their solution to the poverty and food crisis they want to create is to take away more jobs and add more bread lines.

And we already know that Bernie Sanders is a big fan of bread lines.

Meanwhile more middle class families would find themselves squeezed into the ranks of the working poor. Bernie Sanders rants about the 1 percent stealing from the middle class, but he’s the one who is plotting the biggest heist of money from the middle class in this nation’s history.

Poor workers would lose hours and jobs. Savings would be discouraged. Lower real wages would destroy the future of working families even long after Bernie has gone to the big red gulag in the ground.

And then there are the farms that grow the food. Depending on how a carbon tax is structured, it could hit farms hard. That’s why even the leftist governments that have implemented this harsh tax have generally added exemptions for agriculture to avoid the kind of food disasters that comes from hammering the food supply with a hoax tax. It’s not clear whether Sanders would do so as well.

Farms have already been suffering from environmental policies. A carbon tax could destroy farming the way that the socialist schemes of Sanders’ Sandinistas destroyed agriculture in Nicaragua.

And then the bread lines would be all too real. But there would be no bread.

While Bernie Sanders blathers about billionaires in every speech, his tax plan shows that the Socialist is coming for everyone’s money. Even those at the very bottom of the income tier would still be losing 1.3 percent of their after-tax income, money that many working families cannot afford to give up to Bernie.


“The basic truth of politics is primarily class struggle,” Bernie Sanders has said. And he’s almost right.

Politics has become the struggle of working Americans against the political class. Bernie Sanders is the prototype of a political class of lazy unemployable shiftless parasites at war with the working class. Like the Sandinistas and every other leftist group, he wants to seize money from people of every economic class who actually work in order to invest it in his big government schemes for the political class.

Bernie Sanders has said that, “Democracy means public ownership of the major means of production”. He has touted support from Marxist economists and proposed redistribution of income as the answer to everything. An admirer of Cuba and the Sandinistas, he has learned nothing from their mistakes and proposes to destroy our economy just as his fellow Socialists destroyed theirs in Latin America.

Sanders supporters who feel the Bern dreaming of all the free stuff they will get might want to look at history and ask themselves whether they will end up standing on one of Bernie’s bread lines instead.

Forget #FeeltheBern, try #FeeltheBreadLine.
Title: Sanders rally
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 24, 2016, 02:06:12 PM
https://www.facebook.com/eric.kestner.9/videos/1134964713211163/
Title: I'm Disgusted
Post by: DDF on March 27, 2016, 03:15:32 PM
As to how someone that has never served, could attempt to usher in Socialism, using the sacrifice of the military, when they've never been shot at, but instead ducked their turn in the barrel.

Disgusting.

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1085388831554170/
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 27, 2016, 09:04:36 PM
https://www.facebook.com/theEagleisRising/photos/a.142656825937834.1073741830.135665053303678/488189551384558/?type=3&theater
Title: TANSTAAFL
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 06, 2016, 05:53:49 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/04/06/watch-matthews-presses-sanders-supporter-on-paying-for-free-college-supporter-says-i-dont-need-to-know-at-this-moment/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: ccp on April 06, 2016, 06:29:08 PM
Who should pay for "free" college for everyone?  the answer is easy.  The vast majority of liberal college professors should pay for it.  They should all do their "fair share" and work for minimum wage.  Administrators who sit on their fat asses and expect the tax money to keep on flowing should all have the pay cut to minimum.  Why are prices not set for them like it is in the medical sector?

Seems obvious to me.
Title: From his Jewish "outreach coordinator"
Post by: ccp on April 14, 2016, 10:26:49 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/04/14/sanderss-jewish-outreach-coordinator-caught-f-ck-bibi-online-tirade/
Title: Sanders paid 13% in taxes?
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 17, 2016, 07:51:24 AM
http://www.youngcons.com/bernie-sanders-releases-tax-returns-only-paid-13-5-in-2014/
Title: Re: Sanders paid 13% in taxes?
Post by: G M on April 17, 2016, 08:11:50 AM
http://www.youngcons.com/bernie-sanders-releases-tax-returns-only-paid-13-5-in-2014/

Socialists don't want to pay more taxes, they want YOU to pay more taxes.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: ccp on April 17, 2016, 09:57:03 AM
13.5%? Tax rate in '14.

What his secret?

GM:

"Socialists don't want to pay more taxes, they want YOU to pay more taxes."

He probably won't tell us how he managed that rate.  That way he pays less and we pay more so he can send the entire millennial generation to college on our backs.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 17, 2016, 10:35:35 AM
Note the question mark in my subject line.  I'm not ready to vouch for that site and would like to see this confirmed elsewhere.
Title: Re: Sanders paid 13% in taxes?
Post by: DougMacG on April 17, 2016, 11:28:32 AM
http://www.youngcons.com/bernie-sanders-releases-tax-returns-only-paid-13-5-in-2014/

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-15/sanders-paid-27-653-in-2014-taxes-on-income-of-205-271
Sanders Paid $27,653 in 2014 Taxes on Income of $205,271

13.5% was his average tax rate.  Marginal tax rate, much higher for a 200k earner, is what discourages additional work or investment.  A true flat tax would make them one and the same.  It is counter-productive (stupid) to have the disincentive to produce higher than the rate of actual revenue collection.  Even with his own example this is all Greek to Bernie Sanders.
Title: With millions rolling in, Bernie Sanders now lives as a 1%'er
Post by: DougMacG on April 18, 2016, 09:38:49 AM
"the menu on Flight Class Warfare:  There's lobster sliders, crab salad, red lentil soup, herb crusted lamb loin, chocolate ganache, fine cheeses, white wine..."

They flew a Delta 767, 4/5ths empty, burned 33,193 gallons of fuel, and met with the Pope for what, 3 minutes?  Makes an Occupy Wall Streeter want to pledge another $6 out of their next minimum wage paycheck...

First this, Obama's immediate response to what he will miss as President, Air Force One, his own zillion dollar private jet service known for making a special trip to bring the dog to Martha's Vineyard or to commute the Obamas to Hawaii - separately.

Now it's Bernie, the common man, starting to live not like a socialist, but like a socialist leader, in power and in control of other people's money.

1%: BERNIE SANDERS PRIVATE JET SERVES LAMB LOIN, FINE CHEESE, LOBSTER
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/262536/1-bernie-sanders-private-jet-serves-lamb-loin-fine-daniel-greenfield

Remember when Bernie Sanders was scoring PR points for "humbly" flying with the ordinary people? That's all gone. And it's been gone for a while now. His campaign is swimming in money and that comes with all the expected Clintonworld perks.

The New York Times' Yamiche Alcindor, who is no Sanders fan, tweeted the menu on Flight Class Warfare.

There's lobster sliders, crab salad, red lentil soup, herb crusted lamb loin, chocolate ganache, fine cheeses, white wine and those are just the highlights.

And all of this was so Bernie Sanders could fly out to Rome to try and associate himself with Pope Francis and take along a bunch of reporters to watch the show.

The plane was a Delta 767 which can seat 250 or so people, though Sanders only took 50 in his entourage.

Sure. Why not.
 
The whole trip would have used up to 33,193 gallons of fuel, calculated MailOnline, which noted that an average American - who is estimated to fly only 7,500 miles per year - releases fewer carbon emissions via aircraft in 12 months than Mr Sanders did for the trip to Rome.

Hours earlier during the Democratic debate, Mr Sanders claimed some of Mrs Clinton's support came from employees at oil companies and lobbyists for the fossil fuel industry. "'As I understand it, 43 lobbyists for the fossil fuel industry maxed out, gave the maximum amount of money to Secretary Clinton's campaign," he said.
Title: Leftie voter discovers Sandernista is BS
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 18, 2016, 10:14:27 PM
https://medium.com/@robinalperstein/on-becoming-anti-bernie-ee87943ae699#.yda864jhb
Title: Wherever you go, there you are
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 19, 2016, 11:18:37 AM
http://freebeacon.com/politics/bernie-sanders-asked-leave-hippie-commune/
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders, health care plan is short $17,000,000,000,000
Post by: DougMacG on May 09, 2016, 06:20:52 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/09/the-17-trillion-problem-with-bernie-sanderss-health-care-plan-2/

Sen. Bernie Sanders has proposed paying for his proposals to transform large sectors of the government and the economy mainly through increased taxes on wealthy Americans. A pair of new studies published Monday suggests Sanders would not come up with enough money using this approach, and that the poor and the middle class would have to pay more than Sanders has projected in order to fund his ideas.

The studies, published jointly by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center and the Urban Institute in Washington, concludes that Sanders's plans are short a total of more than $18 trillion over a decade. His programs would cost the federal government about $33 trillion over that period, almost all of which would go toward Sanders's proposed system of national health insurance. Yet the Democratic presidential candidate has put forward just $15 trillion in new taxes, the authors concluded.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 10, 2016, 08:00:48 AM
In fairness, Trump's tax plan's deficit numbers are hideous too.
Title: Jane Sanders for First Lady
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 16, 2016, 02:38:48 PM
http://heatst.com/politics/breaking-burlington-college-closes-due-to-crushing-weight-of-debt-acquired-by-jane-sanders/
Title: Even Bill Clinton wouldn't pardon this guy that Sandernista wants freed
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 17, 2016, 07:42:11 PM
http://www.city-journal.org/html/gods-sake-bernie-14448.html
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders, Why is socialism failing in Venezuela?
Post by: DougMacG on May 23, 2016, 12:16:36 PM
I am dating a Sanders supporter (the rest of the relationship must be pretty good!).  We are starting to risk everything with talks about politics. 

I asked why the move toward socialism has led to economic failure in Venezuela.  They  take from the wealthy and from the corporations but life just keeps getting worse for everyone else.  I agree with her answer:

"Maybe they went too far."

(Yes they did!  Too far in the wrong direction.) 
Title: Sanders, the King of Amendments?
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 25, 2016, 10:37:36 PM
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-was-roll-call-amendment-king-1995-2/

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you

Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders, Monetary Policy
Post by: DougMacG on May 26, 2016, 08:48:38 AM
I am studying Bernie Sanders' views on monetary policy.  We need to learn all we can about Bernie and the Bernie phenomenon before it soon ends and becomes even more irrelevant. 

There is a viral Sanders video going around of Bernie ripping Alan Greenspan in about 2003-2004:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJaW32ZTyKE

This is clipped to make Bernie look good (and angry).  He is taking off on things Greenspan said about the economy being good but it wasn't good then for working people and then-Rep. Bernie let him have it.  We had just come out of the Clinton / 911 recession and they were looking at data prior to the Bush tax cuts fully taking effect.

I take from the context that Greenspan was tempted to raise interest rates as the economy rebounded that were being held artificially low then, like today, and that Bernie wanted them left at near zero.

As stated elsewhere, that means Bernie at least unknowingly favors zero savings, zero new investment, zero productivity growth and zero wage growth.  It also means he favors higher income inequality because the cheap and easy money favors rich who can take advantage of it more than the poor who can't.

Bernie favors the part of the Fed Dual Mission that people here tend to oppose, that the Fed should focus more on employment where it has virtually no effect than on inflation where it has primary control.

That Bernie doesn't get capitalism isn't a shock.

On the other side of it, he is one of the most credible voices against big bank, big corporate, bug government cronyism.  I have always believed there are areas where the far left and the more libertarian, freedom loving, level playing field side can find agreement.

https://berniesanders.com/in-troubled-times-the-federal-reserve-must-work-for-everyone/
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/23/Here-s-What-Bernie-Sanders-Would-Do-Fed
http://www.newsweek.com/paul-sanders-join-forces-fed-414926
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/23/opinion/bernie-sanders-to-rein-in-wall-street-fix-the-fed.html?_r=0
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/29/larry-summers-heres-what-bernie-sanders-gets-wrong-and-right-about-the-fed/
https://votesmart.org/candidate/public-statements/27110/bernie-sanders/85/monetary-policy#.V0XAbPkrLIV
https://votesmart.org/public-statement/1030819/sanders-statement-on-fed-raising-interest-rates#.V0XAdvkrLIU
https://votesmart.org/public-statement/54820/hearing-of-the-house-financial-services-committee-semiannual-monetary-policy-report-to-the-congress#.V0XAivkrLIU

In hindsight, the Fed made a GIANT mistake in the mid-2000s by flooding the economy with money during the bubble years that led to the crash.  Bernie Sanders would have gone further than Greenspan with that catastrophic error.
Title: Watch Bernie Sanders panic at this question
Post by: G M on May 27, 2016, 07:56:23 AM
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/05/27/stump-the-socialist-bernie-would-rather-not-talk-about-venezuela/

The non-verbals are awesome.
Title: Re: Watch Bernie Sanders panic at this question
Post by: DougMacG on May 27, 2016, 10:22:02 AM
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/05/27/stump-the-socialist-bernie-would-rather-not-talk-about-venezuela/

The non-verbals are awesome.

Q: "How do you explain the failures of socialism in Venezuela, Brazil and Argentina?"

A: "Of course I am interested and have an opinion but I am focused on my campaign [to implement those same policies here]."

Huh??

Maybe DT with help from advisers can draw this out of Bernie in their debate.  The answer is simple.  Those policies lead to failure.  Anyone who looks can see that.

Title: Bernie Sanders [vs. Doug] on monetary policy
Post by: DougMacG on May 27, 2016, 12:40:35 PM
Bernie's opinion on Fed policy.  [My responses.]  We need to be able to answer Bernieconomics to his supporters and to young people before these ideas get accepted any further.

This is from Bernie's own website, posted during this campaign, written by his staff member, and still up on his site as his view.

THE ECONOMY
In Troubled Times, the Federal Reserve Must Work for Everyone
AUGUST 25, 2015| BY RICHARD ESKOW

[In troubled times?  This is 7 1/2 years into the Obama recovery!"]

It’s been a chaotic few days for the world’s markets. Recent events do not paint the picture of a stable economy guided by rational minds. Instead, the world of global finance looks more like a playground in need of adult supervision.  [I would like to come back to this point, "a playground in need of adult supervision".  The description better fits watching Socialists putting zero interests rates on a centrally planned, government controlled and intervened economy.]

Like other nations, we have a central bank. What should the Federal Reserve do in troubled times? For that matter, what is the Fed’s role in preventing them from occurring in the first place?  [What role did the Fed play in CAUSING troubled times?]

It’s true that many of the causes of the recent stock market turmoil are global, rather than domestic. But those distinctions are becoming less important in a world of unfettered capital flow. Regional markets, like regional ecosystems, are interconnected.

Europe is struggling because of a misguided attachment to growth-killing austerity policies. Like Republicans in this country, Europe’s leaders are focused on unwise government cost-cutting measures that hurt the overall economy.
 [Government is too small in all places where it is too big?  That is his diagnosis of the causes of all troubles.]

China’s superheated markets [private sector failure is the main problem in a communist country?] have experienced a sharp downturn, and its devaluing of the yuan [agreeing with Trump] is likely to affect American monetary policy. Many of the so-called “emerging markets” are in grave trouble, their problems exacerbated by an anticipated interest rate hike from the US Fed.  [The anticipated and actual hike was 00.25%!

Plunging crude oil prices are a major factor in the events of the last few days. [Plunging oil prices are great for people - unless you are rich and own an oil company.] But questions remain about the underlying forces affecting those prices. Demand is somewhat weaker [a further indication that Obama's policies similar to Sanders' policies have led to a weakened economy or recovery], and Saudi officials are refusing to cut production. [We have been fighting OPEC for 40 years; now we want them to cut production??] But there is still some debate about whether these and other well-reported factors are enough to explain the fact that the price of a barrel of oil is roughly half what it was just over a year ago, in June 2014. [The only good news in the Obama economy.]

American Turmoil

Talk of recovery here in the US has been significantly dampened by events of the last several days. The now-interrupted stock market boom had been Exhibit A in the case for recovery.  [Since that time, the stock market has been fine.  In income inequality-centric thinking, I thought rich people losses were good and gains were bad...]

Exhibit B was the ongoing drop in the official unemployment rate. There, too, signs of underlying weakness can be found. The labor force participation rate remains very low for people in their peak working years, as economist Elise Gould notes, and has only come back about halfway from pre-2008 levels. Jared Bernstein notes that pressure to raise wages, which one would also expect in a recovering job market, also remains weak.  [Lousy recovery, no recovery as we have been saying here.]

All this argues for a rational and coordinated policy [All problems require bigger government intervention, even those caused by bigger government intervention.], one in which the Federal Reserve and the US government act together to restore a wounded economy. [As they have been doing, making things worse and kicking the can of finding real answers to real problems further down the road.] What would that look like?

It would not include raised interest rates – something that nevertheless continues to be a topic of serious discussion. [This is the central point of Bernie's monetary non-policy.  He favors zero interest rates in all conditions.  If the time value of money is zero, isn't the value of money eventually zero?  He opposes savings, investment and accumulation of wealth.  Come back to this point.  What really do you favor when you oppose lower income people beginning to save, invest and accumulate wealth?] As Dean Baker points out, China’s currency devaluation alone should have been enough to take that idea off the table. What’s more, as Baker rightly notes, such a move would only make sense if the Fed “is worried that the US economy was growing too quickly and creating too many jobs.”  That’s a notion most Americans would probably reject as absurd. Most are not seeing their paychecks grow or their job opportunities multiply.

Anxiety about inflation, while all but omnipresent in some circles, is not a rational fear. [QE while GDP is stagnant IS inflation, it just doesn't show up immediately in price levels.] A slow rise in prices (0.2 percent in the 12 months ending in July, as opposed to the Fed’s recommended 2 percent per year) tells us that inflation is not exactly looming on the horizon.  [Inflation is the expansion of the money supply relative to GDP.  Price levels lag where there is low demand and low velocity of money. A distinction lost by the author.]

Now what?

“Everything is going to be dictated by government policy,” the chief investment officer of a well-known investment firm said this week. In that case, isn’t it time for a national conversation about that policy?

Another investment strategist told the Wall Street Journal that today’s challenges come at a time when “global central banks have exhausted almost all their tools … It’s difficult to see how central banks come in to support markets.”

If they’ve exhausted all their commonly-used tools, it may be time to develop new ones – not to support “markets,” but to promote jobs and growth for everyone.

First, do no harm. The Fed needs to hold off on any move to raise interest rates. [But zero or artificially low interest rates ARE doing harm!] But inaction is not enough. It was given a dual mandate by Congress: to stabilize prices and keep employment at reasonable levels.

Activist groups like the “Fed Up” coalition, led by the Center for Popular Democracy, are working to move the Fed toward that second objective. They’ve been pushing to change its governing boards, which are heavily dominated by big banks and other major financial interests, and have called for policies that focus on improving the economic lives of most Americans.

Those policies could take a number of forms. One idea comes from Jeremy Corbyn, the populist politician who’s on track to become the next leader of Great Britain’s Labour Party. Corbyn’s economic plan includes “quantitative easing for people instead of banks.” Corbyn proposes to grow the financial sector in a targeted way, by giving the Bank of England (the UK’s version of the Fed) a mandate to “invest in new large scale housing, energy, transport and digital projects.”  [Invest WHAT? Private savings ended due to same policies.  Governments are at their limit of deficit.  Borrow more, FROM WHOM?  Print money?  That doesn't make what you have or will earn or get paid worth more!]

A headline on the website of the Financial Times says (with apparent surprise) that “Corbyn’s “People’s QE” could actually be a decent idea.”

Corbyn also proposes to “strip out some of the huge tax reliefs and subsidies on offer to the corporate sector.” ['Our side' agrees with the ending of giving preferential treatment to government cronies in exchange for lowering the burden on everyone.] The added revenue would go to “direct public investment,” including the creation of a ‘National Investment Bank’ to “invest in the new infrastructure we need and in the hi-tech and innovative industries of the future.”  [This is based on false theory that taking more from the private sector to give more to the public sector creates an improvement for whatever part of America he is purporting to be helping.]

“Qualitative” Easing

Call it “qualitative,” rather than “quantitative,” easing. It would increase the money supply, but for money that is to be invested in the real-world economy – the one that creates jobs, lifts wages, and creates broad economic growth.  [Changing the words without changing the policies.  In the same sentence he says qualitative expansion is quantitative expansion sold better.  No distinction from why current policy makers are executing current policies.  If you leave interest rates at zero, you are helping the wealthy who happen to own corporate stock in pre-existing companies listed on the Dow, S&P etc.  We already saw that.  We already did TARP, shovel ready projects, cash for clunkers...  Doing more of the same will bring different results?!!]

Could something like Corbyn’s plan ever happen here? There’s no reason why not. [We are already doing it.]  The Federal Reserve wasn’t created by bankers, nor is it there to serve bankers – although a lot of people inside and outside the Fed act as if it were. (The choice of a former Goldman Sachs executive for its latest major appointment won’t help change that.)

The Federal Reserve was created by the American people, through an act of Congress. Its governors and its policies are there to protect and serve the public. The Fed should use its oversight capabilities to ensure that banks don’t behave in a reckless manner or help private funds and other unsupervised institutions to behave recklessly.

We are still paying the price for allowing big-money interests to dominate both lawmaking on Capitol Hill and monetary policy at the Federal Reserve. That must change. Congress and the Fed, acting together, should ensure that our nation’s policies benefit the many who are in need of help, not the few who already have more than they need.

[This is like we did telling commercial banks to make loans based on criteria other than creditworthiness.  Now we will ask our Fed go further in pursuit of policies other than managing the value of our money.  This has worked when?  Where?]
Title: Hey Bernie, how many vets died under your watch?
Post by: G M on May 27, 2016, 01:40:02 PM
http://nypost.com/2016/02/09/on-health-care-bernie-betrayed-vets-to-protect-unions/

On health care, Bernie betrayed vets to protect unions
By Betsy McCaughey February 9, 2016 | 8:27pm
Modal Trigger On health care, Bernie betrayed vets to protect unions
Bernie Sanders Photo: EPA
The conventional wisdom is that Hillary Clinton is the candidate with the honesty problem. But on at least one important issue, Bernie Sanders isn’t shooting straight.

Sanders falsely claims he’s been leading the fight to save veterans from the corruption and deadly medical care delays at the Veterans Affairs Department — a message intended to resonate with New Hampshire’s large vet population. The truth is, as chairman of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, Sanders sabotaged VA reform.

Sanders’ allegiance is to public-sector unions, and to serve them, he betrayed vets. You wouldn’t know that from his campaign-trail boasts.


The next contests are Nevada, with a quarter-million vets, and South Carolina, home to eight military bases and some 418,000 vets. You can bet Sanders will keep repeating his bogus claims, but he ought to be called out on them.

Sanders brags about the 2014 Veterans Choice and Accountability Act: “We went further than any time in recent history in improving health care for the men and women of the country who put their lives on the line to defend us.”

Yet since the law was passed, wait times are longer, not shorter, and ailing vets still get the runaround.

Last week, the VA inspector general reported that a Colorado facility systematically faked records, and kept sick vets from getting appointments with private doctors. Meanwhile, the feds reversed the demotions of two VA executives for a corrupt scheme that cost taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The laughable justification was that it would be unfair to punish them when so many others did the same and got away with it.

All along, Sanders’ priority has been protecting VA jobs.

In April 2014, a whistleblower exposed scandalous abuses at the Phoenix VA, where staff concealed wait lists to make themselves eligible for bonuses while sick vets suffered without care. In response, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) proposed empowering the VA secretary to fire managers linked to such deceptions.

But Sanders killed Rubio’s bill. Public-sector unions were among the top contributors to Sanders’ Senate campaigns. No wonder he insisted on protecting “due process” rules that make it almost impossible to fire public employees.

Three months later Congress passed the Veterans Choice and Accountability Act, with Sanders taking his bows. But that law was a sham from Day One.

Sanders made sure of it. He demanded the bill protect VA wrongdoers and blocked vets from accessing civilian care.

The law gives vets a “choice card,” but it’s a joke. First, vets must live 40 miles away from a VA facility or wait 30 days to be eligible for a doctor’s appointment to be eligible. Then they need a letter confirming eligibility from the VA — good luck with that.

Next, their civilian doctor has to call for pre-approval before treatment — fat chance getting that call returned. After all that, outside treatment is capped at 60 days.

Like you can cure cancer in two months.

Why the limit? VA jobs are tied to how many vets use the system. And Sanders protects civil-service jobs like nobody else.

To date, only a handful of senior VA executives have been fired for the falsified wait lists even though a staggering 110 facilities were implicated.

Don’t count on Sanders’ rival, Hillary Clinton, to fix the system, either. Until recently, she brushed off VA corruption as overblown. Now she wants to “modernize” the department, while darkly warning of a Koch brothers’ conspiracy to “privatize” the VA.

In truth, none of the GOP front-runners proposes closing down the VA, but all pledge to put vets in the driver’s seat, allowing them to choose where to get care — without roadblocks.

It’s about time.

The nation needs a president who will battle not only VA corruption, but more broadly, the entrenched civil service that answers to no one and bleeds taxpayers dry.

The big question is which one of the GOP front-runners can actually pull it off? The lives of thousands of vets hinge on it.


Betsy McCaughey is a senior fellow at the London Center for Policy Research.
Title: Sanders embracing with gusto the DNC hatred of Israel
Post by: ccp on June 03, 2016, 04:20:25 PM
http://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/charles-krauthammer-lovable-bernie-whacks-israel/
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders greeted by Oaxacafornias
Post by: DougMacG on June 05, 2016, 06:18:52 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/06/05/welcome-to-oaxacafornia-latinos-for-bernie-sanders-town-hall-in-los-angeles/
Title: Bernie does business after all
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 27, 2016, 07:36:09 PM
http://conservativetribune.com/hillary-bought-off-bernie-sanders/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_campaign=ConservativeBrief&utm_content=2016-07-28
Title: Bernie Sanders leaves the Democratic Party
Post by: DougMacG on July 28, 2016, 12:50:04 PM
He stayed just long enough to run for the nomination.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/28/bernie-sanders-leaves-democratic-party.html

Bernie supporters, ask yourselves honestly now that Bernie has had a taste of the money and is bought off by Hillary...

Who better supports your ideals, Hillary of Jill Stein?  The Queen of Crony Government or the real heiress to the Bernie movement?

Can Jill Stein Lead a Revolution?
The Green Party candidate wants disillusioned Bernie Sanders supporters to join her—not Hillary Clinton.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/jill-stein-third-party-bernie-sanders/493292/

http://www.jill2016.com/
(https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/jillstein/pages/1741/attachments/original/1465298578/jill_quote_web.PNG?1465298578)

New thread Crafty?
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 28, 2016, 01:50:31 PM
How about having it for both the Green and the Libertarian?
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders had Islamist delegate
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 29, 2016, 05:49:37 AM
https://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/exclusive-sanders-delegate-member-fuqra-terror-cult
Title: laughing, just not"out loud"
Post by: ccp on August 11, 2016, 06:24:40 AM
https://www.hotgas.net/2016/08/bernie-buys-600000-seasonal-getaway-home-third-home-fight-1/
Title: another look
Post by: ccp on August 11, 2016, 06:32:27 AM
In fairness to Bernie his net worth including real estate is around 1.7 million if this site is to be believed.  While obviously well off this is a pittance compared to many of the "insiders" in DC:

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/04/17/what-is-bernie-sanders-net-worth.aspx
Title: Re: another look
Post by: DDF on August 11, 2016, 08:53:37 AM
In fairness to Bernie his net worth including real estate is around 1.7 million if this site is to be believed.  While obviously well off this is a pittance compared to many of the "insiders" in DC:

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/04/17/what-is-bernie-sanders-net-worth.aspx

I will still never understand how someone accumulates 1.7 million doing nothing other than a lifetime of public service work, a carpentry job, and maybe some liberal arts 30 years ago.
Title: Re: another look
Post by: G M on August 11, 2016, 09:28:06 AM
In fairness to Bernie his net worth including real estate is around 1.7 million if this site is to be believed.  While obviously well off this is a pittance compared to many of the "insiders" in DC:

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/04/17/what-is-bernie-sanders-net-worth.aspx

I will still never understand how someone accumulates 1.7 million doing nothing other than a lifetime of public service work, a carpentry job, and maybe some liberal arts 30 years ago.

La mordida!
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: ccp on August 11, 2016, 09:30:42 AM
"I will still never understand how someone accumulates 1.7 million doing nothing other than a lifetime of public service work, a carpentry job, and maybe some liberal arts 30 years ago."

"La mordida!"

Well Mrs Sanders worked as a lobbyist.   :roll:

who knows about the kids?


OTOH he has been in public office since 1981  .  He could have put away 20K per year and invested wisely and 1.7 mill is very doable over 35 yrs. without being a crook.
Title: Re: another look
Post by: DDF on August 11, 2016, 10:13:36 AM
In fairness to Bernie his net worth including real estate is around 1.7 million if this site is to be believed.  While obviously well off this is a pittance compared to many of the "insiders" in DC:

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/04/17/what-is-bernie-sanders-net-worth.aspx

I will still never understand how someone accumulates 1.7 million doing nothing other than a lifetime of public service work, a carpentry job, and maybe some liberal arts 30 years ago.

La mordida!

Taking into consideration what CCP said, and having managed factories where many of my workers clocked about 65K with overtime, I haven't seen a single one of them become a millionaire. Not even one.

I'm going with what GM said on this.

That brand new, beach front, vacation home on the lake for 600K that he just bought probably has something to do with what I'm thinking. Yep... a man living modestly.

There's a Mexican general under fire right now for having two homes in Texas valued at about 1.5 million. It's raising some serious eyebrows. In the States, they don't even hide it.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: G M on August 11, 2016, 10:23:54 AM
Just because they structure the payoffs as to not be payoffs doesn't make it any less crooked.

Cattle futures!
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: DDF on August 11, 2016, 10:48:20 AM
Just because they structure the payoffs as to not be payoffs doesn't make it any less crooked.

Cattle futures!

I agree 100%. I was just looking into Mrs. Sanders' net worth and what she has done besides being let go from Burlington College after running it into the ground (maybe it wasn't her, but they did close less than 5 years after she left.


This article notes that Sanders' wife made about $160,000 a year running the college and that "virtually all of the couple’s assets are in Jane’s name, and they own a condo in D.C. and a rental property in Vermont." It is from February. Interestingly, the house in Maine that they would use to purchase the new home in Vermont is not listed. Many articles place Sanders' net worth between roughly 400K and 700K. They also fail to include his wife's earnings. Not bad for a pair of socialists.

Sanders' wife also justified the purchase of the house on the lake by stating that she had inherited a house in Maine that wasn't being used and used the proceeds from that to purchase the lake house in Vermont.

She purposely hides how much she is worth, Bernie purposely has most of the things in her name, and they're worth a lot more than they admit to.
http://fortune.com/2016/02/28/bernie-sanders-socialist-finances/

"Steady employment begins after the age of 39: In 1981, when Sanders won an election for the Mayor of Burlington, Vermont, the 39-year-old went on the public payroll — earning about $33,700 per year, according to Politico."

How one coverts that to 1.7 million dollars net worth at 74 years of age, only having worked full time for public service for 36 years, would be saving $48,571 per year since working regularly from the age of 39. His wife was making a lot of money, and I found this at Time's website "$1 Million-Plus Nest Egg" http://time.com/money/4235986/bernie-sanders-millionaire-finances/

Although Sanders and his wife’s joint tax return showed income of only a little more than $200,000 for 2014 — including his $174,000 salary," which mean that together, they were clocking her 160K (while she was at Burlington College) and his 174K (334K a year) the idea that they are socialists, and make that much off of "serving the public" is laughable.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 12, 2016, 03:36:26 AM
Good research DDF.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: DDF on August 12, 2016, 08:17:16 AM
Good research DDF.


Thank you Guru. It just struck me as curious what his wife was worth.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: G M on August 12, 2016, 02:02:40 PM
Well, they are authentic socialists, as every worker's paradise has it's elites who live very well, despite the gulags, mass graves and starvation.

Hugo Chavez' daughter somehow became a multimillionaire. Must be from the success of Venezuela's economic model.

It's scientific!
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: DDF on August 13, 2016, 12:13:57 AM
Well, they are authentic socialists, as every worker's paradise has it's elites who live very well, despite the gulags, mass graves and starvation.

Hugo Chavez' daughter somehow became a multimillionaire. Must be from the success of Venezuela's economic model.

It's scientific!

I have some free time on my hands. You bring up an interesting point about old Hugo and socialists in general. I think I'm going to look into what the world's socialist leaders are worth tomorrow, just for the hell of it. I had no idea that Chavez' daughter was so successful. Venezuela's "successful" economic model. Best one I've heard all day.  :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: G M on August 13, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/9993238/Venezuela-the-wealth-of-Chavez-family-exposed.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3192933/Hugo-Chavez-s-ambassador-daughter-Venezuela-s-richest-woman-according-new-report.html

Whoops! Multi-billionaire.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 14, 2016, 10:36:01 AM
Please post in Venezuela thread.  Thank you.
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders and the Budget committee
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 14, 2016, 07:06:44 PM
Did I hear right-- if the Dems take the Senate then Bernie chairs the budget committee?
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders, CNN, hasn't learned a thing
Post by: DougMacG on January 10, 2017, 05:35:42 PM
From almost becoming our worst President ever, Bernis Sandsers has fallen to run-of-the-mill leftist, like Shumer, Warren, et al.

I followed a link to his insights today from real clear politics:  23 Questions for America  - Sen. Bernie Sanders, CNN

No, he hasn't learned a thing.  He lost the nomination to Hillary because of cheating, corruption and collusion in his own party.  No one is running for party chair to clean that up.  All they have is denial, even from Sanders.

One of many bold, FALSE statements:  [The US today has] the highest rate of childhood poverty of almost any major country on earth.

Oh really?  What a crock.  He cites this UNICEF study:  https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf  They compare countries by comparing the percentage of
children living in relative poverty, defined as living in a household whose income, when adjusted for family size and composition, is less than 50% of the median income for the country in which they live.  He cites inequality, based on false data, not counting the income of the poor, and he calls it poverty.  Good grief.  Maybe he makes up for it with charisma?

Our poor are often richer than their rich, but we have the highest rate of children living in relative poverty? Without counting their income and relative to the median of the wealthiest country in history.  If the questions or ideas stand on their own, why fill it with deception?

So much for addressing real problems.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/09/opinions/serious-questions-bernie-sanders-opinion/index.html

Bernie Sanders: We need serious talk on serious issues
By Bernie Sanders
Updated 4:19 PM ET, Mon January 9, 2017

(CNN)In my view, the media spends too much time treating politics like a baseball game, a personality contest or a soap opera. We need to focus less on polls, fundraisers, gaffes and who's running for president in four years, and more on the very serious problems facing the American people -- problems which get relatively little discussion. I hope that's what our town meeting on CNN tonight will accomplish.  [So far, so good.]

There are a lot of important questions to talk about, including:
How do we stop the movement toward oligarchy in our country in which the economic and political life of the United States is increasingly controlled by a handful of billionaires?  [Stop it by getting those who aren't to particpate in the productive economy.  Instead we pay and contract with them to stay poor. cf. SSI]

Are we content with the grotesque level of income and wealth inequality that we are experiencing? [If it's important, stop measuring and reporting it falsely]  Should the top one-tenth of 1 percent own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent? Should one family in this country, the Waltons of the Walmart retail chain, own as much as the bottom 40 percent of our people? [The bottom 40% mostly don't have savings.  Don't double down on the failed policies that caused that. Increase the wealth of the bottom 40% if that is the goal and stop making meaningless comparisons. Should 52 percent of all new income be going into the pockets of the top 1 percent?  [The results of the Sanders, Obama plan.  Also see Venezuela's decline and collapse since leaving a free market economy.]

While the very rich become much richer, are we satisfied with having the highest rate of childhood poverty of almost any major country on earth? [Already proven patently false, see above.] Can a worker really survive on the current federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour? [By sharing household expenses with family and friends.  Instead household sizes keep getting smaller for the poorest among us.] How can a working-class family afford $15,000 a year for childcare? [What did that used to cost?] How can a senior citizen or a disabled veteran get by on $13,000 a year from Social Security?

What can be done about a political system in which the very rich are able to spend unlimited sums of money to elect candidates who represent their interests? [The winner spent the least.  Stubborn facts.] Is that really what democracy is about? Why, in the year 2017, do we still have state governments trying to suppress the vote and make it harder for poor people, young people and people of color to participate in the political process? [Checking ID is not suppression and saying it's harder for 'poor people, young people and people of color' is degrading.]

Why is the richest country in the history of the world the only major country not to provide health care to all as a right [Lie, lie, lie, no one is denied healthcare] despite spending much more per capita? Why are we one of the very few countries on earth not to provide paid family and medical leave? [What does paying more people to not work have to do with serious questions?] With the five major drug companies making over $50 billion in profits last year [.0025 portion of the economy, how much should they make on risk capital to try to develop cures for our ailments?] why do we end up paying, by far, the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs?  [Enforce the anti-dumping laws already on the books or negotiate best price contracts, like successful companies do, see Walmart above.]

How do we succeed in a competitive global economy if we do not have the best educated workforce in the world? And how can we have that quality workforce if so many of our young people are unable to afford higher education or leave school deeply in debt? Not so many years ago, we had the highest percentage of college graduates in the world. Now we don't even rank in the top ten. What can we do to make sure that every American, regardless of income, gets all of the education he or she needs? [Public school education in Democrat-run big cities is a disgrace.  School choice is the Republican and inner city black preference.]

Meanwhile, on climate change, the debate is over. [More like you quit listening to it.] The scientific community is virtually unanimous in telling us that climate change is real, is caused by human activity and is already doing devastating harm to our country and the entire world. [Patently false as written.] How do we transform our energy system away from fossil fuel and into energy efficiency and sustainable energy while protecting those workers who might lose their jobs as a result of the transition? [Stop opposing carbon-free nuclear energy.] This is no small issue. The future of the planet is at stake.

We are now spending $80 billion a year to imprison 2.2 million Americans, who are disproportionately African-American, Latino and Native American. [The victims are disproportionately minority too.  The culture of crime is breeding in Democrat-run cities.  Check it out.] We have more people in jail than any other country on earth, including China, which is home to four times as many people. How do we reform a broken criminal justice system? How do we create jobs and educational opportunity for young people, not more jails and incarceration? [Stop jails or stop crime?]

We must create a path for the 11 million undocumented [unlawful] people in our country to become lawful permanent residents and eventually citizens. [Why?] How can we move our nation toward common sense, humane and comprehensive immigration reform and by doing that help reverse the decline of our middle class and better prepare the United States to compete in the global economy?  [Enforce the border and the law.]

Our nation's infrastructure is collapsing and the American people know it. At a time when our roads, bridges, water systems, rail and airports, levees, dams, schools and housing stock are decaying, the most effective way to rapidly create meaningful jobs is to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. How can we work together to make that happen? [Read the Republican plan.]

These are the issues that need to be talked about all over the country. I thank CNN for allowing us to have a serious discussion about serious issues.  [Bernie, your disingenuity is killing us.  Luckily the voters went a different direction.]
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: ccp on February 28, 2017, 03:20:11 PM
suddenly he is worried about anti - semitism?

Where the hell was he for the past 8 yrs?

What a joke.
Title: Sanders defends Trump voters
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 03, 2017, 12:08:15 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/326820-sanders-defends-trump-voters-i-dont-think-theyre-racists
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders making some serious money
Post by: G M on June 06, 2017, 07:21:23 AM
https://heatst.com/politics/bernie-sanders-made-more-than-858k-in-book-royalties-last-year/

Gee, I wonder how much he will voluntarily redistribute...
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders on Face the Nation June 18 2017
Post by: DougMacG on June 19, 2017, 05:09:41 PM
Someone should ANSWER this drivel, point by point...

1) He states flawed projections as facts.  Then he repeats them as facts.

2) He is a science denier.  The science is economics.  People respond to incentives and disincentives. They deny it.  

3)  He is a denier of economic history.  What he states as fact just isn't so.  Not accurate anywhere at anytime across the globe or throughout history.

4)  His policies aren't new; they lead to disaster every time they are tried.  The further you go Sanders / Warrenomics, then worse the disaster.  See VenezChavezuela.
--------------------------
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-june-18-2017-transcript-rubio-sanders-sekulow-odonnell/

DICKERSON: Joining us now is Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. He is in Burlington.

Senator Sanders, I want to start with this week's shooting.  In talking to Senator Rubio, he said obviously this was -- the man who did the shooting is responsible for his own actions. But in the wake of that, in this conversation about what leads to the heated political atmosphere, Senator Sanders -- Senator Rubio pointed out, he said that when people try to stop free speech, stop people from talking, it creates pressure in the system that might cause people to act out.  What do you think of that theory?
[Not even a mention that the shooter was a follower of Bernie.]

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I), VERMONT: I think he is right.

Look, freedom of speech, the right to dissent, the right to protest, that is what America is about. And, politically, every leader in this country, every American has got to stand up against any form of violence. That is unacceptable.

And I certainly hope and pray that Representative Scalise has a full recovery from the tragedy that took place this week.  [Tragedy? Like a natural catastrophe? Or was it a criminal act?]

DICKERSON: There's been a lot of protests on campuses when people come to speak. They have been -- people have protested and said they shouldn't be allowed to speak.
 Where do you come down on that in the context of this pressure on free speech?

SANDERS: I think people have a right to speak. And you have a right, if you are on a college campus not to attend. You have a right to ask hard questions about the speaker if you disagree with him or her.  But what -- why should we be afraid of somebody coming on a campus or anyplace else and speaking? You have a right to protest. But I don't quite understand why anybody thinks it is a good idea to deny somebody else the right to express his or her point of view.
[First two points true and valid, makes you think he is a reasonable guy- even though his angry articulation of false analysis inspired the hate thoughts if not the violence of the assassin who shot up a field full of Sanders' political opponents.]

I think, John, what is very clear is, we are in a contentious and difficult political moment in our country's history. I have very grave concerns about the Trump agenda right now. We will -- we are looking -- we are not looking.

There is a health care proposal in the Senate [NO THERE ISN'T] which nobody has seen yet. But the proposal that passed the House, as you know, would throw 23 million Americans off of health insurance. I mean that, to me, is just incredible.
[Not even an opinion but repetition of a false claim, without giving credit to its source or including the time frame.  He adds "AS YOU KNOW" to a statement that is patently false.  Obamacare is losing enrollees at a faster rate than that without repeal/replace.]

It would raise premiums very significantly for older workers.  [The removal of the requirement for young people to pay for the care of old people is "raising premiums for older workers'.  With that logic you can reform NOTHING.] It would defend (de-fund) Planned Parenthood and deny two-and-a-half million women the right to get the health care that they want, cut Medicaid by over $800 billion.
[Planned Parenthood is a human slaughterhouse with an abortion to adoption ratio of 149 to 1.  Medicaid has never been cut since its inception.  The bill gives people freer choices, not denial of rights.  The man has no shame.]

You know, we -- I and I would say the vast majority of the American people have strong disagreements with that approach. But you don't have to be violent about it. Let's disagree openly and honestly [deceptively and vehemently], but violence is [the result] not acceptable.  [The violence was incited by his own hate speech if you apply logic of the left  to the left.  Class WARFARE is still his operative theme while his political opponent is still in surgery.]

DICKERSON: I want to get to the details of the health care plan in a moment, or the details you don't know at the moment.  But let me just -- staying on this question here, is anything going to change in the wake of this in Washington, at least in the way lawmakers deal with each other? And is there something that should change?

SANDERS: I think, you know, what -- and, again, where this is such a strange moment is, we are looking at a lot of dishonest news that comes across, where people are lying outrageously about other people.  [Like Sanders just did.]

And I hope that folks on all sides could say, look, I disagree with him or her, but that is an outrageous lie. But let us, on the other hand, be frank, is, there are real differences of opinions that exist in Congress.

It is not like -- you know, you mentioned Marco Rubio. I like Marco Rubio. But we disagree on issues. And people should understand, it is not that there is all kinds of hatred. [He spews hatred right in this interview.  What is class warfare without hatred?] There's a -- in the Congress, there is a fundamental disagreement.

President Trump made a -- brought forth a budget which will go nowhere, but this is a budget that over a 10-year period would give $3 trillion in tax breaks [static analysis] to the top 1 percent, the very wealthiest families in America [hate and blame that group!], while making massive cuts in education [false], into health care [false], in nutrition programs[false], really devastate working class of this country[false].  [His policies are what devastate the working "class".  See any place that implemented them.]

I disagree with that. But, obviously, that debate has got to be played out based on the facts, and let's debate it.
[He disagrees with his own false assessment - or did that come out wrong?]

DICKERSON: Let me move here now to health care.

You mentioned some of the policy differences, but there is a procedural debate going on about how this is being handled in the Senate. Some Democrats are suggesting, because the -- because you don't know what is in the bill and the bill is being worked on in secret, to just stop all Senate business, to just shut the place down as a way to kind of force play.

Are you on board with that?  [See if he answers the question...]

SANDERS: John, here is the situation.

We know the legislation that passed the House. It was the worst piece of legislation, frankly, against working-class people that I can remember in my political life in the Congress. Throwing 23 million people off of health insurance is beyond belief.
[REPEAT A FALSEHOOD]

Now, in the Senate, what you have is you have, I believe it is 10 Republicans working behind closed doors [NO DEMOCRATS AGREED TO WORK ON THIS BILL!] to address one-sixth of the American economy.  That is what health care is.  [Trying to reverse a failed government takeover of 1/6th of the economy as the voters asked them to do.]

Republicans, the average Republican doesn't even know what is in that legislation. My understanding is that it will be brought forth just immediately before we have to vote on it.
[His colleague just assured him it wouldn't be.  Is Sen. Rubio a liar?]
This is completely unacceptable [The way Obamacare was passed, "you have to pass it to see what's in it".] I mean, nobody can defend a process which will impact tens of millions of Americans, and nobody even knows what is in the legislation. [False. There is no Senate proposal at this time.]  And, John, the important point here is the reason they don't want to bring it public is because it is a disastrous bill, I suspect similar to what passed in the House.  [Crafting legislation behind closed doors is far from new, see Hillarycare, Obamacare.  Just raw, political mudslinging. Inciting violence against his colleagues?]

Who is going to defend cutting Medicaid by $800 billion at the same time as you give massive tax breaks to the wealthiest 2 percent? [Two false points then make a false comparison.] So, they want to keep it secret. [No, they want to bring it out in the open and pass it.]  They don't want the media involved. ["Think of them as Democratic operatives with bylines."] They don't want members of Congress involved. And at the last minute, they present it, they push it through, and that is one-sixth of the American economy and millions of people thrown off the health insurance. [False, false, false and false.]

That is unacceptable. I believe Democrats should do everything they can to oppose that legislation in any way that we can.  [Ends justify means, while his colleague is in critical condition??!!]


To the left of Bernie (or more open and honest than him) are people who want to tax the upper income at 99%.  Seriously!  Why do we not take all of their income?  Why is $100/hr minimum wage not better than $15?  Why don't they admit what they know would go wrong with their own proposals?  Which type of tax code brings in the most revenue to the Treasury, one that stomps out economic activity or one that fosters growth?  But the agenda of socialist is not to grow the economy or to alleviate poverty.  Their goal is transformation.  Or just perpetual class warfare.  If we enacted all of their taxes and programs (as we have), they would then want - more taxes and more programs.
Title: Feel the Bernie-- wife tried evicting disabled group
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 23, 2017, 06:38:50 PM
https://twitter.com/sensanders/status/708041019359625216?lang=en

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A nation is judged not by how many billionaires and millionaires it has but by how it treats the most vulnerable people among us.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2017/06/sen-sanders-wife-tried-evicting-disabled-group-home-residents-closing-shady-college-deal-fbi-probe/

Sen. Sanders’ Wife Tried Evicting Disabled Group Home Residents after Closing Shady College Deal Under FBI Probe

JUNE 29, 2017

Amid a deepening federal investigation of Jane Sanders, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders’ wife, Judicial Watch has obtained records that paint a rather disturbing personal portrait of a heartless spouse—and longtime political advisor—of the Democratic Socialist candidate for president of the United States. During the Obama administration, the FBI began investigating Jane for falsifying documents to obtain a $10 million loan to expand a now-defunct liberal arts college in a town where her husband once served as mayor while she was the school’s president.

The school, Burlington College, was in a small city with the same name in northwestern Vermont. It’s a quaint town of about 42,000 that sits on the eastern shoreline of Lake Champlain and prides itself on having “diverse, forward-thinking citizens” that are “steeped in arts and culture.” Jane was president of the troubled college from 2004 to 2011 and in 2010, she had an ambitious plan to expand the campus by 33 acres, despite low enrollment and financial difficulties. The then-president of Burlington College drastically overstated donation amounts in loan applications, according to the Vermont news website that broke the story, to obtain a $10 million loan. Jane indicated there was $2.6 million in pledged donations but the school only got $676,000 in four years.

The loan went through, some allege after her husband’s senatorial office pressured the bank to approve it, and Jane masterminded a deal to purchase an undeveloped, 32-acre parcel of land and a 77,000-square-foot facility from the Roman Catholic Diocese of Burlington. The purchase included a facility that served as a group home for disabled people and, under the terms of the deal, Jane was supposed to negotiate the transfer of the disabled residents before the school took over the property. Instead Jane tried to kick the disabled people out of their group home, records obtained by Judicial Watch show. The records, part of an ongoing Judicial Watch investigation into the Jane Sanders fraud case, include electronic mail exchanges between Jane when she was president of Burlington College and two former mayors of the city of Burlington.

In a lengthy letter to the attorney (Todd Centybear) representing the group home for the disabled Jane indicates that she’s having trouble evicting the 16 residents from their building on the newly purchased property after the college had acquired the land. She writes: “It is simply not fair to expect the College to continue to carry the burden of the expenses associated with housing both your population and ours until February 2012.” The home for the disabled was being leased from the diocese and Jane was supposed to help relocate the residents, not evict them. The exchange shows, not only Jane’s heartlessness, but also her incompetence as the college president for not ensuring the negotiated transfer of those disabled people before the school took over the property.

In a separate email to then Burlington Mayor Bob Kiss, Jane forwards a laughable press release issued by the college announcing her resignation. “I wanted you to hear it from me,” she writes to the mayor. “It’s a good decision.” The press release announced that “In honor of her significant accomplishments, the College has given Sanders the title of President Emerita…” It adds that “The Board credits Sanders with negotiating the acquisition of its beautiful new 32-acre lakefront campus, a transformative achievement for the College.” In reality, the acquisition of that property bankrupted the College, and Sanders is now being investigated for bank fraud by the FBI for misrepresentations she made on loan documents to purchase the land for the campus.

Senator Sanders, who is up for reelection this year, hit the media circuit this week to defend his wife, assuring that she’s the most honest person he knows and that the investigation is politically motivated. “When you go after people’s wives that is really pathetic,” he said in a recent interview, adding that “it’s fairly pathetic that when people are involved in public life, it’s not only that they get attacked, but it’s their wives and their families that get attacked. That’s what this is about.” The couple lawyered up this week, hiring two prominent attorneys, one in Burlington and the other in Washington D.C. Also, this month, Jane launched a nonprofit organization, the Sanders Institute, to “revitalize democracy” with progressive policies aimed at racial and social justice as well as environmental and economic issues.
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders has a right to the news
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 28, 2017, 03:10:12 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/bernie-sanders-has-reportedly-been-stealing-his-neighbors-newspaper/
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders 2011, The American Dream is in Venezuela
Post by: DougMacG on August 23, 2017, 09:11:00 AM
http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=2177.msg105790#msg105790
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-gaps-disparities-that-threaten-america

This passes for wisdom on The Left.

Kill off incentives, private sector income and wealth and the Venezuelan economy is what you get.

Who is questioning Bernie on this now?
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders 2011, The American Dream is in Venezuela
Post by: G M on August 23, 2017, 09:16:00 AM
http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=2177.msg105790#msg105790
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-gaps-disparities-that-threaten-america

This passes for wisdom on The Left.

Kill off incentives, private sector income and wealth and the Venezuelan economy is what you get.

Who is questioning Bernie on this now?

Just us. The MSM/DNC sure won't.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: DougMacG on July 13, 2018, 07:52:51 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhcFBClXcAYpvf8.jpg)

[Write your own caption here.]

NEW YORK, NY—In a late-night show interview Wednesday, Senator Bernie Sanders politely asked the nation to please stop mailing him books on basic economics, revealing that he’s been “absolutely flooded” with works on the most rudimentary concepts of supply and demand.

Sanders made the request after receiving yet another daily shipment of books from well-meaning Americans who simply assumed that he has never read a book on the subject in his life.

“I’ve got 1,200 copies of Human Action, 1,500 copies of Basic Economics, and 4,700 copies of Economics in One Lesson,” the angered senator said. “I’m drowning here.”
https://babylonbee.com/news/bernie-sanders-asks-nation-to-please-stop-mailing-him-books-on-economics/
Title: 2015 Sen. Bernie Sanders gets kinky
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 01, 2018, 02:29:26 PM
https://nypost.com/2015/05/29/bernie-sanders-wrote-an-essay-saying-that-women-fantasize-about-rape/
Title: Re: 2015 Sen. Bernie Sanders gets kinky
Post by: DougMacG on October 02, 2018, 07:30:27 AM
https://nypost.com/2015/05/29/bernie-sanders-wrote-an-essay-saying-that-women-fantasize-about-rape/

The image to Sanders article is in this link:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/young-bernie-sanders-liberty-union-vermont/

Truly disqualifying, unless you are a Democratic Socialist.
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders $300k in private jets
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 07, 2018, 04:15:20 PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/climate-hawk-bernie-sanders-spent-almost-300k-on-private-jets
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders $300k ib private jets
Post by: G M on December 07, 2018, 10:13:19 PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/climate-hawk-bernie-sanders-spent-almost-300k-on-private-jets

It's not a bug, it's a feature of socialism that the power structure is exempt from the rules. All animals are equal...
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: ccp on December 08, 2018, 05:54:57 AM
Interesting he actually lived on a Kibbutz and now essentially could care less about his Jewish heritage.
Like some of the Soviet Bolshevik Jews like Trotsky.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders, 20 things you didn't know about Bernie
Post by: DougMacG on December 31, 2018, 06:26:06 PM
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/bernie-sanders-twenty-things-you-didnt-know/

Some important points made if he becomes a serious candidate again.
Title: Sanders to Soviet Russia for honeymoon
Post by: ccp on January 29, 2019, 05:31:58 AM
I have never heard anyone taking their honeymoon to Russia, have you?

Apparently *while he was mayor of Burlington Vt* a sister city deal was struck with Yaroslav Russia .  
So why not take your honeymoon there ?  What a wonderful coicidence.

I would not be surprised if he even wrote this trip off as government business since of course he went to share cultural love with Russians and foster better relations between the US and USSR.
I wonder if anyone can find out if it was paid for by the city of Burlington:

https://www.burlingtonvt.gov/Mayor/Yaroslavl-Russia
Title: The left's interest in Russian collusion disappearing in 3...2...1...
Post by: G M on March 13, 2019, 02:55:07 PM
https://cascadefreezone.com/2019/03/11/was-bernie-sanders-a-russian-agent/
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 13, 2019, 09:50:34 PM
That deserves more follow up!


In the meantime , , ,

Bernie walks into a bar and says "Free drinks for everyone!  Who is paying?"
Title: Bernie Sanders, "universal" health care requires a kickback to unions
Post by: DougMacG on August 27, 2019, 07:30:16 AM
Labor representatives have expressed concerns to candidates publicly and to campaign staffs privately that a single-payer system could negatively affect their benefits, which in many cases offer better coverage than private plans. The change announced Wednesday would effectively give organized labor more negotiating power than other consumers would have under his plan by forcing employers to pay out any money they save to union members in other benefits.

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-bernie-sanders-changes-medicare-for-all-plan-in-face-of-opposition-by-organized-labor/2019/08/21/d8144e06-c423-11e9-9986-1fb3e4397be4_story.html

A Sanders aide — who spoke on the condition of anonymity to explain the change — said the provision “does not open a door for private insurance,”
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Some unions have invested in and developed their own self funded health plans to cover their members and families- that would be canceled and banned under Bernie-care.  This one, Local 49 Minneapolis goes around the government and big insurance companies to provide great health care for 36,000 members and family members.  Gone under Bernie care.  Better off under Trump.
https://www.health49.org/
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 28, 2019, 09:18:42 PM
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/sanders-china-has-made-more-progress-on-extreme-poverty-than-any-country-in-history/?fbclid=IwAR0Rk7LizATIt3bcmnB3D2XOSbZojr4BLGfSrf2MI-KNH_IUlBZwksU1jPg
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: DougMacG on August 29, 2019, 06:11:41 AM
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/sanders-china-has-made-more-progress-on-extreme-poverty-than-any-country-in-history/?fbclid=IwAR0Rk7LizATIt3bcmnB3D2XOSbZojr4BLGfSrf2MI-KNH_IUlBZwksU1jPg

"China is a country that is moving unfortunately in a more authoritarian way in a number of directions,” the Vermont senator said in his interview with The Hill. “But what we have to say about China in fairness to China and its leadership is, if I’m not mistaken, they have made more progress in addressing extreme poverty than any country in the history of civilization, so they’ve done a lot of things for their people.”


Strange that he calls moving in a "more authoritarian way""unfortunate" when he advocates that here and doubly strange that he acknowledges great progress coming out of the economic policies that he seeks to end here.
Title: barely a blip on CNN site
Post by: ccp on October 02, 2019, 05:45:52 PM
difference between generals and democrats

is the latter just will not fade away

thank god  :|
the burn is ok:

from the front webpage of CNn which is plastered with everything negative about Trump and this tiny little foot note about burns coronary artery disease and emergency cardiac cath:

I guess they figure he ain't goin to win anything anyway........
Title: Bernie Sanders - Emergency heart surgery under government only healthcare
Post by: DougMacG on October 03, 2019, 05:01:16 PM
Yes.  Thank God Bernie alive and presumed well.  I wish all the best in his health and healthcare, and want to defeat his ideas fair and square with him as a perfectly healthy spokesman.

Announcing he is okay, Bernie proclaimed the misnomer, "Medicare for all!"

Others say, no way he would have gotten that kind of medical attention so quickly without waiting if we had the so-called single payer, government only healthcare system, and he was just one of 330 million people.

Our state just put a $100 million into a vehicle licensing system that doesn't work so they are hiring a private company to start over.  Same state dropped their heaviest traffic, interstate bridge into the Mississippi River not that long ago.  I drove over it twice that day before it collapsed during afternoon rush hour.  But government-run, government-only healthcare, will work great, it's unlimited, no waiting and free!  They will be ready and waiting and able to perform advanced heart surgery whenever you need them. -  I don't believe it.

First heart stents developed at Univ of Minn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronary_stent

Let the debates begin.
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders against gun confiscation
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 14, 2019, 09:18:37 AM
The world retains its ability to surprise

https://www.wsj.com/articles/socialist-against-confiscation-11573689765?mod=MorningEditorialReport&mod=djemMER_h
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders against gun confiscation
Post by: DougMacG on November 14, 2019, 03:13:52 PM
The world retains its ability to surprise

https://www.wsj.com/articles/socialist-against-confiscation-11573689765?mod=MorningEditorialReport&mod=djemMER_h

For a moment there he used logic, and cared about rights.  Then they point out he usually doesn't do that.

Bernie has some history with gun politics.  IIRC, he opposed gun rights but couldn't get elected in statewide Vermont until he changed his views.  Otherwise he would have had to go out and get real work.  I wonder what his motivation is now?  Working on his general election polling numbers to compete better with Biden while Warren is slipping?  I assume he will follow this no-confiscation stand with a wide range of new bans.  He still needs liberal votes.

Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders against gun confiscation
Post by: G M on November 14, 2019, 08:18:46 PM
Part of it is trying to take away a hot button issue that might lose him votes from gun owning dems, part of it is that most left politicians smarter than Robert Francis O'Fake know that actually trying to disarm the public results in them losing CWII.

Note that Fredo Cuomo Sr. dares not to try disarming deep blue NY State, despite having the NY State Police. NY National Guard and Fusion Centers at his beck and call.

https://hudsonvalleyone.com/2016/07/07/massive-noncompliance-with-safe-act/


The world retains its ability to surprise

https://www.wsj.com/articles/socialist-against-confiscation-11573689765?mod=MorningEditorialReport&mod=djemMER_h

For a moment there he used logic, and cared about rights.  Then they point out he usually doesn't do that.

Bernie has some history with gun politics.  IIRC, he opposed gun rights but couldn't get elected in statewide Vermont until he changed his views.  Otherwise he would have had to go out and get real work.  I wonder what his motivation is now?  Working on his general election polling numbers to compete better with Biden while Warren is slipping?  I assume he will follow this no-confiscation stand with a wide range of new bans.  He still needs liberal votes.
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders vs. the bureaucracy in VT, any parallels? ;-)
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 27, 2019, 10:18:59 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/27/us/politics/bernie-sanders-mayor-burlington-vt.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders makes astrong case to curtail "guest workers", (2007)
Post by: DougMacG on December 11, 2019, 01:41:05 PM
When B.S gets something right on economics, we should all take note:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/video-bernie-sanders-opposed-amnesty-for-illegals-guest-worker-programs-in-2007/
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders makes astrong case to curtail "guest workers", (2007)
Post by: G M on December 11, 2019, 01:44:39 PM
When B.S gets something right on economics, we should all take note:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/video-bernie-sanders-opposed-amnesty-for-illegals-guest-worker-programs-in-2007/

Bernie-racist and xenophobic white nationalist! Who knew?
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders: internet service is a human right
Post by: DougMacG on December 12, 2019, 08:11:34 AM
Fixed pie Socialist thinking:  Everything that will ever be invented already has been, now we just figure out how to split everything up evenly.

The more important something is, the more it needs to be provided by or controlled byt the government, because governments have such a great record of providing service and driving innovation.   ??
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https://www.wired.com/story/bernie-sanders-internet-service-human-right/
Bernie Sanders Says Internet Service Should be a Human Right
The Vermont senator and presidential candidate proposed a $150 billion plan to expand broadband, including regulating rates for internet service.

Bernie Sanders speaks at a podium under two bright lights
Senator Bernie Sanders proposed breaking up media-telecom conglomerates.PHOTOGRAPH: DANIEL ACKER/BLOOMBERG/GETTY IMAGES
In August, presidential candidate and senator Elizabeth Warren (D-Massachusetts) proposed spending $85 billion to expand high-speed internet access in rural America and other underserved communities. Senator and rival presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders (D-Vermont) thinks that's not enough. Friday, he offered his own $150 billion broadband plan that goes far beyond connecting rural communities to the internet.

Sanders wants to break up large media and telecommunications giants, force companies to make internet services more accessible to people with disabilities, and regulate broadband prices to ensure affordability. He says he will treat internet service as a human right.

"Just as President Roosevelt fundamentally made America more equal by bringing electricity to every farm and rural community over 80 years ago, as president, I will do the same with high-speed internet,” Sanders said in a statement.

Other Democratic front-runners have broadband plans, but Sanders’ is more radical—and expensive—than his rivals’. Former vice president Joe Biden has called for $20 billion to expand broadband infrastructure in rural America, and wants to triple funding for rural broadband access programs. South Bend, Indiana, mayor Pete Buttigieg touts an $80 billion "Internet for All" plan and promises to restore net neutrality. But Sanders’ call for the Federal Communications Commission to cap broadband prices goes beyond even Warren’s relatively expansive plan, which aimed to achieve affordability by increasing competition in the broadband market.

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The WIRED Guide to Net Neutrality
Like Warren, Sanders says he will appoint FCC commissioners who will classify broadband providers as "common carriers," like traditional phone services, as they were during the Obama administration. That would give the FCC authority not only to restore the net neutrality rules that the FCC jettisoned in 2017 but to regulate rates as well, something the Obama-era FCC declined to do. Sanders' plan would require broadband providers to offer "Basic Internet Plans" at set "affordable" rates. He also wants to ensure free broadband to public housing residents.

Sanders’ plan would ban internet service providers from also providing content. Under his plan, both AT&T, which owns Time Warner, and Comcast, which owns NBC-Universal, would presumably have to separate their roles as access providers and content producers. Warren told The Verge that she wants to split Comcast and NBC-Universal and said she opposed AT&T’s acquisition of Time Warner.

The FCC has already spent billions on programs like Connect America Fund, which helps pay for broadband infrastructure in underserved communities, and the Universal Service Fund, which subsidizes access to telecommunications services, but Sanders and Warren argue that too much of the money from these programs go to large, for-profit carriers. Sanders wants to expand funding for municipal, nonprofit, and cooperatively owned broadband providers through the Green New Deal and calls for the funds to go toward creating union jobs, echoing Biden's infrastructure plan.

Citing outages following Hurricane Sandy and Hurricane Maria, and the threat of climate change, Sanders also wants both new and existing internet and telecommunications infrastructure to stand up to natural disasters.
Title: Bernie about to get Veritas-ed?
Post by: G M on January 13, 2020, 04:34:37 PM
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/385276.php

Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders Free Re-Education Camps
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 16, 2020, 05:32:45 PM
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/15/sanders-camp-mum-pro-gulag-staffer-says-iowans-don/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

https://nationalfile.com/video-bernie-sanders-campaign-bailed-out-staffer-arrested-on-drug-charges/
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders Free Re-Education Camps
Post by: G M on January 16, 2020, 08:02:22 PM
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/15/sanders-camp-mum-pro-gulag-staffer-says-iowans-don/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

https://nationalfile.com/video-bernie-sanders-campaign-bailed-out-staffer-arrested-on-drug-charges/

I am sure the MSM-DNC will be professional journalisting all over this story!
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders' Campaign Staffer
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 17, 2020, 08:07:45 PM
Haven't watched this yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBzV9kb8j28&feature=share
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders' Campaign Staffer
Post by: G M on January 17, 2020, 08:23:26 PM
Haven't watched this yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBzV9kb8j28&feature=share

Take 10 minutes and watch.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 18, 2020, 12:23:55 PM
Halfway through it.  As feared and expected.

Separately, see

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-weekend-jolt/odd-man-in/
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders supported Iran Revolution
Post by: DougMacG on January 19, 2020, 06:48:52 AM
His sympathies with the old Soviet Union were just the start of his anti-Americanism.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/when-iran-took-americans-hostage-bernie-backed-irans-defenders
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/01/bernies-history-with-iran.php

BERNIE’S HISTORY WITH IRAN
With Iran back in the spotlight, the Daily Beast reminds us that we–and Bernie Sanders–have been here before:

On April 1, 1979, the theocratic Islamic Republic of Iran was proclaimed. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who had returned to Iran from exile to assume command of the revolt, became Supreme Leader in December of that year. His rise was accelerated by the seizure on Nov. 4 of 52 American diplomats and citizens, and citizens of other countries, at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. The hostage crisis became the means by which the Ayatollah crushed political opponents in Iran. Dealing with the hostage taking became the overwhelming political crisis for President Jimmy Carter. It lasted 444 days.

Virtually all Americans—Democrats, Republicans and independents—united in support of the hostages and the international call for their freedom. One prominent political figure on the 2020 stage, then almost completely unknown, stood apart by joining a Marxist-Leninist party that not only pledged support for the Iranian theocracy, but also justified the hostage taking by insisting the hostages were all likely CIA agents. Who was that person? It was Bernie Sanders.

Sanders was a member of the Trotskyite Socialist Workers’ Party. Not just any member, either; he was the SWP’s presidential elector for Vermont, and he appeared with, and campaigned for, the SWP’s presidential candidate.

When its presidential candidate, Andrew Pulley, came to speak at the University of Vermont in October 1980, Sanders chaired the meeting.
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In his standard stump speech, Pulley condemned “Carter’s war drive against the Iranian people,” and said that the U.S. “was on the brink of war with Iran,” which would be fought “to protect the oil and banking interests of the Rockefellers and other billionaires.” Americans, he predicted, would soon “pay on the battlefields with our very own lives.” Their criticism of the Ayatollah was intended “to get us ready for war.” And, Pulley charged, the media who criticized those of us who were against “American imperialism” were “declared insane.” As for the hostages, Pulley said “we can be sure that many of them are simply spies… or people assigned to protect the spies.”

Pulley’s words were a direct echo of what the Islamic Society of University Teachers and Students had declared on Nov. 4, 1979 : “We defend the capture of this imperialist embassy, which is a center for espionage.”

Not much has changed since 1980. Sanders is still a blame-America-first crank who had little or nothing to say about the Iranian-led attack on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad. But he exploded in fury over the killing of arch-terrorist Qassem Soleimani and pledged to “stop a war with Iran,” just as in 1980 his Socialist Workers’ Party had no problem with the mullahs holding 52 Americans hostage for over a year, but hysterically warned that the Carter administration was leading us into war with Iran. Which would have been all our fault.

Sanders was a nasty piece of work then, and he is equally nasty now.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 19, 2020, 09:33:27 AM
Wow.

Here's more:

https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons
Title: sanders familymade money in Burlington jobs
Post by: ccp on January 20, 2020, 05:30:09 PM
typical commie:

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/01/20/schweizer-bernie-sanders-funneled-taxpayers-school-money-to-his-family/

preaching free equality health care and education

while he or his family get special treatment
Title: Morris: Hillary unloads on Bernie
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 21, 2020, 09:50:50 AM


http://www.dickmorris.com/hillarys-revenge-she-unloads-on-bernie-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 21, 2020, 11:12:06 AM
https://www.projectveritasaction.com/2020/01/21/expose-2020-another-bernie-2020-field-organizer-ill-straight-up-get-armedim-ready-for-the-fing-revolutionguillotine-the-rich-praises-the-so/
Title: Sen. Bernie Sanders calls to socialize electricity
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 04, 2020, 01:15:26 PM
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/02/bernie-sanders-climate-federal-electricity-production-110117
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders calls to socialize electricity
Post by: G M on February 04, 2020, 04:44:53 PM
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/02/bernie-sanders-climate-federal-electricity-production-110117

What did socialists use before candles? Electricity.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 08, 2020, 11:23:28 AM
https://nypost.com/2020/02/07/bernie-sanders-calls-for-nationwide-end-to-cash-bail-during-democratic-debate/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=pasteboard_app

Title: Sandernista defending the commies quotes
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 17, 2020, 11:57:59 AM
https://hermancain.com/people-claiming-trump-putins-stooge-work-overtime-defend-bernies-pro-soviet-comments/
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 20, 2020, 09:04:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmjgXguOZbI&feature=share
Title: Muslim group endorses Sandernista
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 21, 2020, 04:07:56 PM
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483819-sanders-wins-endorsement-of-top-muslim-group
Title: Re: Muslim group endorses Sandernista
Post by: G M on February 21, 2020, 04:25:53 PM
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483819-sanders-wins-endorsement-of-top-muslim-group#.XlBBNlj59VY.facebook

#.XlBBNlj59VY.facebook
Title: Quelle surprise-- Russkis backing Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 21, 2020, 04:30:23 PM
I'm a slow learner!  Thanks for the catch!

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/bernie-sanders-briefed-by-us-officials-that-russia-is-trying-to-help-his-presidential-campaign/ar-BB10fJsL


Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 21, 2020, 04:36:32 PM
second post

More nuance here than I was expecting , , ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhpVAkBDg5o&feature=share
Title: Stalin's last laugh
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 23, 2020, 09:10:01 AM
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/stalins-last-laugh.php
Title: "Stalin's last laugh"
Post by: ccp on February 23, 2020, 05:29:04 PM
reading how Chris Matthews being trolled for saying Bernie's win is like Nazi invasion of France.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jewish-group-demands-msnbcs-chris-matthews-apologize-for-sanders-remark/ar-BB10iJTA

I don't know if Matthews  is senile or what.

He should have said Bernie's win is like Russia's invasion of Eastern Europe.

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While this may good news for Trump and us in 2020 it does not bode well for beyond.

Title: Mayor Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 24, 2020, 01:32:12 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OraxqbUjpHw&feature=share
Title: Trotskyism / Sanderism
Post by: ccp on February 24, 2020, 02:51:57 PM
another famous Jewish (in name only ) Marxist / Bolshevik? Trotskyism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky

The Jewish Communists of the early 1900s would be really pleased at their new hero if alive today.

There was even a communist party headquarters where I grew up in Elizabeth NJ prior to my being born.

Mostly Jews with ties to Russia .
Title: Jane Sanders-- bank fraud?
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 25, 2020, 10:07:28 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-and-jane-sanders-under-fbi-investigation-for-bank-fraud-hire-lawyers/
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: ccp on February 26, 2020, 05:59:39 AM
sarah Sanders

you mean Mrs  Trotsky

Bernie claiming

"I am not a communist "

and others claiming he is not a socialist......

and david Axelrod on CNN saying if you look up 'socialism',  the definition includes the government controlling the means of production
  AND then  trying to make the totally false claim therefore that Bernie Trotsky is not.a socialist

ALL THE WHILD BERNIE WANTS GOVERNMENT TO CONTROL ENERGY , THE ENTIRE HEALTH CARE SECTOR, ROB THE RICH (which will naturally and inevitably include the less rich ), EDUCATION FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, CHILD CARE , ALL CORPORATIONS.

My response is:
* David Axel-dooch cannot hide the true intentions of Bernie like he did Baraq Hussain Obama !*. DIRTBALL  who himself comes from a family of  socialist communists

We are not going to take his BS any more.

Title: NRO: Sen. Bernie Sanders hates America
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 26, 2020, 08:29:57 PM
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/02/bernie-sanders-hates-america/
Title: Rabbi Shmuley
Post by: ccp on February 27, 2020, 05:43:37 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2020/02/26/rabbi-shmuley-sanders-wants-to-bern-israel/

"Sanders rarely spoke about his Jewishness before this campaign. Now he touts the fact that he spent time on a kibbutz, which perhaps gave him some of his socialist values"

yup

Title: Sandernista to Boombug: Fizz off
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 27, 2020, 10:12:29 AM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/sanders-refuses-to-accept-money-from-bloomberg-if-he-becomes-democratic-nominee_3251700.html?ref=brief_BreakingNews&utm_source=Epoch+Times+Newsletters&utm_campaign=eed80ec7a3-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_02_26_06_46&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4fba358ecf-eed80ec7a3-239065853
Title: Bernie Sanders! Socialism!
Post by: DougMacG on February 28, 2020, 06:54:59 AM
South Carolina looks to be the only state Biden will win - unless he under-performs and loses.  Another state where Bloomberg is zero factor.

Latest poll in Calif poll shows Sanders with a 3 to 1 lead over Bloomberg's money:
CA (IGS); Sanders 34, Warren 17, Bloomberg 12, Buttigieg 11, Biden 8

This is going to be over in a hurry if it goes the way it is polling now.

Bernie is a socialist over a Democrat, his words.  Our schools, media etc have taught socialism is morally superior to meritocracy, freedom and capitalism.  Good for them, they won over let's say 35% of Democrats with that idea.  Enough to put a socialist on the ballot with the rest of them all divided without leadership.

Socialism is communism.  Let's not mince words.  In modern word usage, socialism is the friendly kind of living in the commune, working what you feel like if at all and owning and sharing all the resources and rewards equally.

Communism is where you do all that by coercion.

But you can only do all that by coercion.  There isn't a friendly, consensual way.  You take away income, wealth and ownership with state coercion.   Socialism, the nice kind, is fiction, as imaginary as the Land of Oz, Hogwarts, Star Wars and Back to the Future.  They are talking about taking away everything from your right to hire a doctor to your right to take home a paycheck, heat your house, own your hoe, drive to work.

Bloomberg banning sodas is a practice run.  I hate soda but taking away your right to make an "unhealthy" choice is now somebody else's decision in that jurisdiction.  The penalty is whatever it takes to get compliance including taking away the business owners' right to have the restaurant doors and cash register open.

Bernie would ban Bloomberg.  There is no right to be rich under Bernie, even though Bernie is now rich. That's different.  Chavez, his friend and mentor was rich.  Under coercion, you still never have equality because it is against the nature of things.  The new rich are the people of power who prevent others getting rich by force.  Give them the power, they become the rich.

Socialism equals communism.  There is no daylight between them.  Let's at least admit that before we vote on it.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: ccp on February 28, 2020, 07:35:37 AM
"South Carolina looks to be the only state Biden will win - unless he under-performs and loses. "

I guess I can't blame them from their point of view.
I probably would have voted for someone sinking into dementia then vote for Obama.......  a memory compromised Reagan or Trump would still have been better.

Title: Sanders platform based on Stalin's 1936 Constitution
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 28, 2020, 06:24:24 PM
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/06/15/joe-biden-isnt-plagiarist-among-2020-democratic-presidential-candidates/
Title: Re: Sanders platform based on Stalin's 1936 Constitution
Post by: G M on February 28, 2020, 08:12:54 PM
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/06/15/joe-biden-isnt-plagiarist-among-2020-democratic-presidential-candidates/

So it has a track record of success!
Title: Re: Sanders platform based on Stalin's 1936 Constitution
Post by: DougMacG on February 29, 2020, 05:33:29 PM
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/06/15/joe-biden-isnt-plagiarist-among-2020-democratic-presidential-candidates/

Is it Plagiarism or just that great minds think alike?

We are either looking at a Trump 40+ state victory or we are about to become the USSR, depending on how voters see this clear choice.
Title: Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 29, 2020, 05:36:11 PM
Beware Boombug.
Title: Sandernista's dumpster dive
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 05, 2020, 09:30:30 AM
https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/03/04/sanders-dumpster-dives-through-the-ash-heap-of-socialisms-history/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=sanders-dumpster-dives-through-the-ash-heap-of-socialisms-history?utm_source=TDS_Email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MorningBell&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWm1VMlkyTTNOemt6T0RSbSIsInQiOiJjXC92NzJ5dytOZlBTK1luZ1VHY2Zrejd5a1wvOTJkN1JFU2ZkTkYyQ2JDamx4S05iQ0JXMUJUemN0OExRTGFienludldnMDNuRHZTTEt0NmNKYVwvd25neXF3SnBXUlFDY1RsMU1MZml3bDRmcEwwQktrblNocWtNUzczMkZmUEpuayJ9
Title: Bernie Sanders and Ilhan Omar sitting in a tree , , ,
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 08, 2020, 01:15:10 PM
https://clarionproject.org/bernie-sanders-on-ilhan-omar-one-of-the-greatest-people-i-know/?utm_source=Clarion+Project+Newsletter&utm_campaign=7155583c5d-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_03_08_01_23&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_60abb35148-7155583c5d-6358189&mc_cid=7155583c5d