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18051
Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff )
« on: October 29, 2011, 10:44:26 AM »
"but that does not make the group a recognized religion"

What's the legal standard for a "recognized religion" vs. an "unrecognized religion"?

"However, if they showed up at the other guy's class in Texas he would have to teach them and they would qualify for the permit so long as they were not felons or been in a mental institution."

Legally, that may be the case, however is that morally correct? If someone showed up at a firearms class I was teaching wearing Neo-nazi gear or a New Black Panther Party uniform, I'd refund their money and eject them from the class. Is that right or wrong from a moral perspective?

18052
Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff )
« on: October 29, 2011, 09:00:16 AM »
Did you not use the phrase "wrong is wrong" in addressing this topic? Some white supremacists have a deviant, racist version of christianity they follow (Think Obama's church), others follow pagan nordic beliefs, some are atheist. Is refusing to teach white supremacists racial/political/religious discrimination? Is it morally right or wrong, aside from the legal question?


18053
Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff )
« on: October 29, 2011, 08:36:09 AM »
A nationally known firearms trainer was offered a large sum of money to privately train "students" at a white supremacist enclave. He declined. Was that wrong?

18054
Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff )
« on: October 29, 2011, 07:53:32 AM »
Is there a difference in this case between what is legal and what is moral?

18055
Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff )
« on: October 29, 2011, 07:39:34 AM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the trainer in question a private business teaching a class for profit?

18056
Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff )
« on: October 29, 2011, 07:09:32 AM »
Is that guy the only trainer in Texas? I'm guessing not.

Is there a good test for parsing out jihadists from other muslims?

18057
Politics & Religion / Re: We the Well-armed People (Gun rights stuff )
« on: October 28, 2011, 07:19:43 PM »
Woof,
 I appreciate the sentiment but wrong is wrong and this guy is wrong.

 www.news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/ad-gun-training-bars-muslims-obama-voters-153954962.html

                                  P.C.


PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. -- Fifteen of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers had ties to Florida, and at one point, 12 of them lived in Palm Beach County.
 They visited Palm Beach County pharmacies, took flying lessons at local airports, and even learned self defense in South Florida gyms.
 Three of the hijackers lived in the Delray Raquet Club.
Pharmicist Greg Chatterton came face to face with the mastermind, Mohammed Atta, when he went to Huber's Pharmacy in Delray looking for something to treat his hands.
 The terrorist who piloted the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania learned martial arts at a Dania Beach fitness club.
 Said US 1 Fitness owner Bert Rodriguez, "He wasn't interested in boxing or kick boxing, he just wanted to learn street defense -- how to ward off attackers or control someone."
Read more: http://www.wpbf.com/news/9823300/detail.html

18059
Politics & Religion / The war on Border Patrol Agents
« on: October 28, 2011, 03:01:42 PM »
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/25/border-agent-jaile-arrest-teen-drug-smuggler/

A U.S. Border Patrol agent has been sentenced to two years in prison for improperly lifting the arms of a 15-year-old drug smuggling suspect while handcuffed — in what the Justice Department called a deprivation of the teenager’s constitutional right to be free from the use of unreasonable force.

Agent Jesus E. Diaz Jr. was named in a November 2009 federal grand jury indictment with deprivation of rights under color of law during an October 2008 arrest near the Rio Grande in Eagle Pass, Texas, in response to a report that illegal immigrants had crossed the river with bundles of drugs.

In a prosecution sought by the Mexican government and obtained after the suspected smuggler was given immunity to testify against the agent, Diaz was sentenced last week by U.S. District Judge Alia Moses Ludlum in San Antonio. The Mexican consulate in Eagle Pass had filed a formal written complaint just hours after the arrest, alleging that the teenager had been beaten.

Defense attorneys argued that there were no injuries or bruises on the suspected smuggler’s lower arms where the handcuffs had been placed nor any bruising resulting from an alleged knee on his back. Photos showed the only marks on his body came from the straps of the pack he carried containing the suspected drugs, they said.

Border Patrol agents found more than 150 pounds of marijuana at the arrest site.


The defense claimed that the smuggling suspect was handcuffed because he was uncooperative and resisted arrest, and that the agent had lifted his arms to force him to the ground — a near-universal police technique — while the other agents looked for the drugs.

The allegations against Diaz, 31, a seven-year veteran of the Border Patrol, initially were investigated by Homeland Security's Office of Inspector General and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Office of Professional Responsibility, which cleared the agent of any wrongdoing.

But the Internal Affairs Division at U.S. Customs and Border Protection ruled differently nearly a year later and, ultimately, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Western District of Texas brought charges.

The Law Enforcement Officers Advocates Council said the government’s case was “based on false testimony that is contradicted by the facts.”

In a statement, the council said that because the arrest took place at about 2 a.m., darkness would have made it impossible for the government’s witnesses to have seen whether any mistreatment took place. It said Marcos Ramos, the Border Patrol agent who stood next to Diaz, testified that he did not see any mistreatment of the smuggling suspect.

The council said other witnesses made contradictory claims and some later admitted to having perjured themselves. Such admissions, the council said, were ignored by the court and the government. It also said that probationary agents who claimed to have witnessed the assault raised no objections during the incident and failed to notify an on-duty supervisor until hours later.

“Instead, they went off-duty to a local ‘Whataburger’ restaurant, got their stories straight and reported it hours later to an off-duty supervisor at his home,” the council said. “Then the ‘witnesses’ went back to the station and reported their allegations.”

18060
Politics & Religion / Re: Newt Gingrich
« on: October 27, 2011, 06:36:55 PM »
Me too.  My wife, who is pretty hardcore Republican loathes him as a man who divorced his dying wife.

And that's just part of a pattern of conduct with him, not just a one time thing.

18061
Politics & Religion / Re: Newt Gingrich
« on: October 27, 2011, 06:06:34 PM »
Passes Perry in the polls!

Meh.




I wish he were a credible candidate.

18062
Again, I am not necessarily unopposed to the snark.  The role of the UN in the attempted prevention of small arms and the related limits to the 2nd Amendment spring to mind here.  I just want to understand HOW, or perhaps WHY, the UN now how this reputation.  Is it because of a failed, or flawed, design or it the "derailment" more of a normative sense from those of you how feel this way.




BD:

I have next to zero respect for the legitamacy or competence of the UN towards those ends, nor am I sure that I even agree with all of them.  (Whatever the hell "social progress" is according to the General Assembly of the UN, I suspect I rather strongly disagree.

This might explain the generally snarky tone of this thread towards the UN.  :-D

To the extent the UN succeeds in claiming power, US sovereignty is diminished.


The "food for oil" corruption leaps to mind as does the endless assaults on Israel. Gee, you'd think they were North Korea or Cuba, except those countries are on the human rights councils. Even when the UN isn't on the wrong side of things, they are more corrupt and criminal in day to day operations than the typical 3rd world hellhole they coddle.

18063
BD,

When an institution goes off the rails as the UN has, I think it does matter.

OK.  So again... has it gone off the rails due to institutional design or normatively?  If it is the design, what portion? 

It was a utopian concept that was flawed from the beginning and just went south from there. It assumed that every nation would rationally decide issues rather than break into voting blocs. It treats every nation as equally rational and decent.  :roll:

18064
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-food-servers-get.html

October 27, 2011
Occupy Wall Street food servers get sick of the "professional homeless people."
 
"They know what they’re doing."

For three days beginning tomorrow, the cooks will serve only brown rice and other spartan grub instead of the usual menu of organic chicken and vegetables, spaghetti bolognese, and roasted beet and sheep’s-milk-cheese salad.

They will also provide directions to local soup kitchens for the vagrants, criminals and other freeloaders who have been descending on Zuccotti Park in increasing numbers every day.
What if everyone suddenly got sick of freeloaders?

18065
BD,

When an institution goes off the rails as the UN has, I think it does matter.

18066
OK, so this is not really an instituional question, but rather a normative one of what constitutes the "good" of the country? 

(Incidentally, I am not trying to argue with any of you, Guro, GM, DougMacG, PC.  I literally study institutions, so this is my mindset here.  I really am just seeking clarification about an institution I know comparatively little about.  And, thank you to all of you addressing this line of questioning, by the way.)

BD,

Do you think FDR would recognize or approve of the UN of today?

18067
Politics & Religion / Re: Peter Schiff vs. OWS
« on: October 27, 2011, 10:15:01 AM »

18069
Politics & Religion / A popping noise heard around the world?
« on: October 26, 2011, 09:12:05 PM »
**This could will have cascading effects felt globally.

http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/obvious-signs-of-a-slowdown-in-china/


Obvious signs of a slowdown in China

by Simon Black · View Comments



October 26, 2011
 Shanghai, China
 
Stunned. That probably best describes the mood of China’s vast pool of property owners. For the last few years, anyone with as much as a taxi driver’s salary has been speculating in the real estate market, scooping up off-plan properties at terms that would make a Countrywide mortgage broker blush.
 
And why not? Chinese culture has almost universally adopted the attitude that property prices never go down. Minor fluctuations and corrections over the last several months have been written off as statistical error.  Well, reality has now uncomfortably set in.
 
Recent reports from the National Bureau of Statistics show that home prices have fallen up to 50% in many parts of the country in the period from July to September. But who gives a damn about government reports? The real evidence is on the ground.
 
Here in Shanghai, nearly 300 angry customers stormed a sales office of Longfor Properties Co Ltd after finding out that the developer had slashed prices on one of its projects by nearly 25%… practically overnight.
 
Another angry mob in Shanghai assembled outside the sales office of China Overseas Property Group Co after that company made similar price concessions for new buyers.
 
These were obviously the poor suckers who bought in months (or years) ago at a much higher price… and they’re not especially happy about a property crash.
 
The most significant contributor to the price decline is tightening credit; after dumping trillions of dollars into the economy to ward off the effects of the global financial crisis, the Chinese government is now pressuring banks to reduce loans.
 
This is bringing much of China’s credit-intensive economy to a screeching halt. So much for China leading the world out of the global financial crisis. And it doesn’t just affect the property market.
 
Auto dealers are having the same issues, with many luxury brands ranging from BMW to Mercedes offering steep discounts up to 20% to lure buyers onto the showroom floor.
 
Growth has definitely slowed dramatically, and the tightening of credit is having widespread effect across the economy… and the prospect for increased social unrest here is growing.
 
Taking a page from America’s playbook, the government is responding by playing up threats of terrorism. It’s an easy distraction, and it keeps people in line. In fact, China’s government is revising its policy to ensure that anyone who might rock the boat is branded a ‘terrorist’ and will be subject to asset seizure.
 
Many people with money or significant assets in China see the writing on the wall and are lining up to diversify internationally– citizenships, trusts, foreign bank accounts, etc. I should know, I just spent the day in a room packed with Chinese people trying to learn about their internationalization options. I’ll tell you more about that tomorrow.

18070
I guess I don't understand, still, how this can be the case.  I fail to see the opportunities that would allow the UN to act outside the will of the US and two key EU nations.  Any chance there is a reference?  A how to manual?

You are expecting rationality from an entity that places Cuba on it's human rights council?

Really?

18071
Politics & Religion / Must see!
« on: October 26, 2011, 08:01:26 PM »
http://coalitionoftheswilling.net/?p=16633

The NewsHour Hits a MUST-SEE Homerun With This Interview

I’m sure whoever’s idea it was has been sacked. Along with all the llama trainers.
 

18072
Politics & Religion / Political prisoner
« on: October 26, 2011, 06:12:10 PM »
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/25/border-agent-jaile-arrest-teen-drug-smuggler/

A U.S. Border Patrol agent has been sentenced to two years in prison for improperly lifting the arms of a 15-year-old drug smuggling suspect while handcuffed — in what the Justice Department called a deprivation of the teenager’s constitutional right to be free from the use of unreasonable force.

Agent Jesus E. Diaz Jr. was named in a November 2009 federal grand jury indictment with deprivation of rights under color of law during an October 2008 arrest near the Rio Grande in Eagle Pass, Texas, in response to a report that illegal immigrants had crossed the river with bundles of drugs.

In a prosecution sought by the Mexican government and obtained after the suspected smuggler was given immunity to testify against the agent, Diaz was sentenced last week by U.S. District Judge Alia Moses Ludlum in San Antonio. The Mexican consulate in Eagle Pass had filed a formal written complaint just hours after the arrest, alleging that the teenager had been beaten.

Defense attorneys argued that there were no injuries or bruises on the suspected smuggler’s lower arms where the handcuffs had been placed nor any bruising resulting from an alleged knee on his back. Photos showed the only marks on his body came from the straps of the pack he carried containing the suspected drugs, they said.

Border Patrol agents found more than 150 pounds of marijuana at the arrest site.


The defense claimed that the smuggling suspect was handcuffed because he was uncooperative and resisted arrest, and that the agent had lifted his arms to force him to the ground — a near-universal police technique — while the other agents looked for the drugs.

The allegations against Diaz, 31, a seven-year veteran of the Border Patrol, initially were investigated by Homeland Security's Office of Inspector General and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Office of Professional Responsibility, which cleared the agent of any wrongdoing.

But the Internal Affairs Division at U.S. Customs and Border Protection ruled differently nearly a year later and, ultimately, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Western District of Texas brought charges.

The Law Enforcement Officers Advocates Council said the government’s case was “based on false testimony that is contradicted by the facts.”

In a statement, the council said that because the arrest took place at about 2 a.m., darkness would have made it impossible for the government’s witnesses to have seen whether any mistreatment took place. It said Marcos Ramos, the Border Patrol agent who stood next to Diaz, testified that he did not see any mistreatment of the smuggling suspect.

The council said other witnesses made contradictory claims and some later admitted to having perjured themselves. Such admissions, the council said, were ignored by the court and the government. It also said that probationary agents who claimed to have witnessed the assault raised no objections during the incident and failed to notify an on-duty supervisor until hours later.

“Instead, they went off-duty to a local ‘Whataburger’ restaurant, got their stories straight and reported it hours later to an off-duty supervisor at his home,” the council said. “Then the ‘witnesses’ went back to the station and reported their allegations.”

The council also noted that the teenager claimed no injuries in court other than sore shoulders, which the council attributed

18073
Politics & Religion / Re: European matters
« on: October 26, 2011, 03:37:04 PM »
Throwing good money after bad. The EU is doomed.

18074
Politics & Religion / Just a reminder of what a cesspool the UN is.....
« on: October 26, 2011, 03:15:31 PM »

http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/sleep-well-at-the-un-china-cuba-and-north-korea-are-watching-over-us-all/

Sleep Well — At the UN, China, Cuba and North Korea Are Watching Over Us All

October 26, 2011 - 8:47 am - by Claudia Rosett


In case you missed it, we’ve just had another shining moment of your United Nations at work — the same UN that the U.S. supports with contributions that last year came to some $7.7 billion.

You remember the United Nations Conference on Disarmament? That would be the Geneva-based UN conclave that recently made news for the utterly perverse reason that it was chaired in August by Cuba, and in July by one of the world’s worst rogue proliferators, North Korea.
 
Out of such proceedings has now come yet another report, subject of consideration and a draft resolution Oct. 21 by the UN General Assembly’s committee on Disarmament and International Security (also known as the “First Committee“). As is customary at the UN, this draft resolution reaffirms that the Conference on Disarmament is “the sole multilateral disarmament negotiating forum of the international community.” It goes on to lament that as such, this Conference on Disarmament has been gridlocked for years — “unable to commence its substantive work for over a decade” — and hopes for forward motion soon.
 
Who sponsored this draft resolution? Why, China, Cuba and North Korea.
 
With friends like that, maybe the best one can say about the UN Conference on Disarmament, the UN’s “sole multilateral disarmament negotiating forum of the international community,” is that it is gridlocked. That may be one small reason to sleep better at night. But in that case, the chief service rendered by the Conference is to provide a UN body that gets chaired by Cuba and North Korea, and then yields UN resolutions lamenting not the monstrosity, but the futility of the exercise. Why do we need this Disarmament Conference at all?

18075
I'll take a stab at it. The UN's goals are to get all the money and perks possible while providing cover to dictators and thugocracies worldwide.

18076
Not good for the UN either, without the US to pick up the tab.

18077
The enemy, of my enemy, is my friend.
                  P.C.

That'll get you another OBL. 

Good point. We've tried that. I'm not a fan of how it all played out.

18078
Politics & Religion / Re: Politics
« on: October 26, 2011, 10:28:04 AM »

18079
Politics & Religion / Occu-sty
« on: October 26, 2011, 08:46:08 AM »


http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1376084

Health conditions ripe for disaster, officials fear

Occupational hazards

By Laurel J. Sweet, Dave Wedge and John Zaremba
 Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - Updated 10 minutes ago


Food-borne illnesses, a flu outbreak, hypothermia, sexually transmitted diseases and vermin are just some of the hazards experts say make Occupy Boston a public health disaster waiting to happen — as City Hall turns a blind eye.
 
“The longer you’ve got a big group of people in an unsanitary location, the more at risk they’re going to be for infectious diseases. Time is only beginning to tell where this is going to go,” said Janelle Vaesa, a public health researcher who has studied similar deteriorating conditions at Occupy Wall Street in New York.
 
San Francisco health officials report they’ve subjected that city’s two Occupy sites to twice-daily inspections, and have found a rash of food, garbage and other sanitation issues.

 

Yet, even as a strong stench has begun rising from Occupy Boston’s site in the heart of the city and a weekend snowfall looms, the Boston Public Health Commission told the Herald yesterday it has no plans to inspect the month-old encampment, where dozens of activists are sleeping in abutting tents, without on-site toilets, and food donations are sitting in crates on wet ground, though hand sanitizer appears to be readily available.
 
BPHC spokeswoman Ann Scales said Boston will offer Occupiers a free on-site flu clinic Friday and is mindful of the potential for “pest infestation.” There are no plans to conduct health inspections, she said, though she noted, “From our standpoint, any time people are living in close quarters, the odds of transmittable diseases is there.”
 
After a Herald inquiry yesterday, the Inspectional Services Department will pay Occupy Boston a visit today to check out its makeshift food preparation area, spokeswoman Lisa Timberlake said. City officials said no permits have been issued to the tent city established by anti-corporate protesters who say they are modeling a new society.

**The filth, crime and chaos is what their "society" would look like.

18080
Politics & Religion / Re: US Foreign Policy
« on: October 26, 2011, 08:33:28 AM »
Our retreats from Iraq and Afghanistan might look good to the uninformed now, but when the reality of putting 2 wins in the global jihad's pocket sets in....

18082
Politics & Religion / Re: Politics
« on: October 26, 2011, 08:17:38 AM »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySnYbitzrg4&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySnYbitzrg4&feature=player_embedded


Below is the quote from the poster of the youtube video:

This is one of the best uses for a U.S. flag I've seen to date. I missed recording the best part where the dog and owner were really playing a fierce game of tug o' war!

18083
Politics & Religion / Re: Politics
« on: October 26, 2011, 07:56:06 AM »
I see 60's retreads, various other leftist loons and the generation that grew up with soccer games where score wasn't kept and everyone got a trophy.

18084
Politics & Religion / Re: Politics
« on: October 26, 2011, 07:01:06 AM »
When you focus on a small portion of the entire crowd to make a (snarky) point, you do the same thing that liberals do with the Tea Party when they only take pictures of the signs with misssspelinggs.  I think that both the Tea Party and the OWS have beefs, that if others managed to actually listen to what they are saying, there might (shock!) be a lesson in it. 

So BD,

What was the point of OWS? Rapes? Public sh*tting? Anti-semitism? Riots?

18085
Politics & Religion / The global debt apocalypse
« on: October 25, 2011, 04:42:42 PM »
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/losing-economic-battle_598447.html?nopager=1


Losing the Economic Battle

The global debt apocalypse approaches.

Oct 31, 2011, Vol. 17, No. 07 • By DAVID M. SMICK

On the issue of public debt, Washington is experiencing what psychologists call “learned helplessness.” The financial news is so relentlessly terrible that people have become numb to it and assume nothing can be done to regain control over our fate.




Today the world’s public and private debt exceeds an incredible 300 percent of GDP. We are at risk of succumbing to an ugly, downward, global mark-to-market in asset prices. Yet the discussion in Washington fails to reflect the immensity of the threat.
 
Some money managers have a theory that this mark-to-market process has been under way for some time. Stage One was the 1990s Asian crisis. Global financial markets concluded that Asia’s debt was dangerously high and its banks’ balance sheets not reflective of reality. Global traders pounced. Interest rates soared, equity markets plummeted, banks failed, and currencies collapsed.
 
Stage Two is happening in Europe today.
 
Stage Three will eventually hit the United States. Washington policy-makers seem confident America’s public debt risk is years away. They believe that the U.S. economy, with the dollar the reserve currency, enjoys some immunity from these concerns. The central bank, moreover, can buy bonds to keep interest rates from rising in response to growing debt. Yet these are risky assumptions.

A year ago, senior European officials never dreamed they’d be in their current mess. Greece represents only 3 percent of the Eurozone economy. Bailout tricks and clever central bank interventions were supposed to calm nervous markets. That happened, but didn’t last. A powerful global financial market brought officials to their knees. Today, many European policymakers can’t believe America is risking a similar outcome. True, as a means of protection the Fed itself will try to manipulate credit markets by keeping long-term interest rates artificially low. But global financial markets will simply penalize bank stocks, a phenomenon that may result in a credit contraction and double dip recession.
 
The larger danger is that ballooning debt reaches a tipping point beyond which financial markets conclude the debt cannot be repaid without instigating political chaos. That is Europe’s predicament today. Markets realize that the austerity policies needed to bring the debt under control are making the task of debt reduction impossible, as tax revenues plummet.
 
Some analysts, including Criton Zoakos, argue that the global economy has reached a “point of no return.” Debt suffocates growth, which destroys equity values (particularly financial stocks), which diminishes lending, investment, and consumption. Falling tax receipts lead to even more debt. Optimists argue not to worry. The world since January 2008, they say, has been undergoing an important period of public and private deleveraging. Growth will resume once deleveraging is completed.
 
If only life were that simple! Global indebtedness, according to Zoakos, has actually increased by 17 percent since the beginning of 2008. Nations have enacted generous bailout and stimulus programs while growth has averaged an anemic 1.2 percent.
 
With the world having fallen into a giant liquidity trap, monetary policy has been ineffective. Because of the growing slack in the economy as the developing world joins in the global slowdown, the central bankers couldn’t inflate their way out of today’s debt problem through bond purchases even if they wanted to.
 
What the Greek situation has shown (debt 120 percent of GDP before the crisis and 170 percent today after reforms) is that austerity without a strategy for vigorous economic growth is a recipe for failure. But Washington’s political environment is so poisonous, bipartisan fiscal compromise seems impossible.
 
Washington is overflowing with tax reform policies, proposals to bend the cost curve of entitlements, and ideas for smart infrastructure spending. There even seems to be a beneath-the-surface bipartisan consensus to move forward on these items, which probably won’t happen short of a stock market crisis that forces Congress to act.
 
Yet these reforms may not be enough. Policymakers also need to reform today’s slow-to-lend, too-big-to-fail banks. Here’s an important question: Should governments and central banks continue to try to prop up the value of the assets on bank balance sheets even though those values are unsustainable? This losing battle has already contributed to global public debt-to-GDP ratios that boggle the mind. We may be saving our banks, but we’re losing our economy.
 
Like a giant bow wave building up on each side of the vessel, the growing debt is threatening to swamp the entire world economic ship. A feeling of helplessness has taken hold at the precise moment policymakers need to be audacious. The numbers behind presidential candidate Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 plan may not add up, but his gut instinct is on the mark. America needs radical reform on the issues of both growth and debt.

David M. Smick, chairman of the macroeconomic advisory firm Johnson Smick International, is the founder and editor of the International Economy magazine.

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Politics & Religion / Re: Who could have seen this coming?
« on: October 25, 2011, 01:31:49 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-military-schalit-suffering-malnutrition-132751567.html

Netanyahu told an audience that he understood the pain of Israeli families who lost relatives in Palestinian violence, but that Israel's ethos of doing everything possible to bring its soldiers home safely forced him to act.

He also issued a staunch warning to the freed militants. "We will continue to fight terror and every released terrorist who returns to terror will be held accountable," he said.

Those concerns were underscored with comments by one of the freed prisoners, Hamas militant leader Yehia Sinwar, who called on the movement to kidnap more soldiers.

Hamas agreed to release Schalit in exchange for 1,027 Palestinian prisoners, many of them serving life sentences for deadly attacks on Israelis. The arrivals of the prisoners set off ecstatic celebrations in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, where large crowds and dignitaries greeted them.

In Gaza, prisoners embraced and shook hands with Hamas leaders at the Rafah border crossing.

Tens of thousands of flag-waving Palestinians celebrated at a rally that quickly turned into a show of strength by the Islamic militant group, which seized control of Gaza from its rival, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, in 2007.

On a sandy lot, a huge stage was set up and decorated with a mural depicting Schalit's capture in a June 2006. Thousands hoisted green Hamas flags.

"My happiness is indescribable," said Azhar Abu Jawad, a 30-year-old woman who celebrated the return of a brother who had been sentenced to life for killing an Israeli in 1992.

"We'll get him a bride and everything. I just spoke to him. He's so happy. This is a reminder, God doesn't forget anyone," she said.

In the West Bank, released prisoners were taken to the grave of iconic Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas greeted them, and several thousand people filled the courtyard outside his headquarters to celebrate.

"We thank God for your return and your safety," Abbas said. "You are freedom fighters and holy warriors for the sake of God and the homeland."



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4138982,00.html

Saudi cleric: Kidnap soldier - get $100,000


Famous Muslim cleric Dr. Awad al-Qarni offers reward in response to similar cash prize offered by Israeli bereaved family. Hamas minister: Gaza pullout enables us to keep Shalit captive

Roee Nahmias Published:  10.25.11, 13:50 / Israel News 
 






A week after the release of kidnapped Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, top Saudi cleric Dr. Awad al-Qarni is offering a $100,000 reward to anyone who kidnaps Israeli soldiers.

 

He is responding to an ad published by the Libman family offering a similar reward for anyone who catches the person who murdered their relative Shlomo Libman. Libman was killed by terrorists near the settlement of Yitzhar in 1998.

 

Israeli army officers ordered to foil kidnappings, even at expense of soldier's life
Hamas vows to abduct more soldiers

 

"The press reported that the Zionist settlers will pay huge amounts of money to whoever kills the freed Palestinian prisoners," al-Qarni said. "In response to these criminals I declare to the world that any Palestinian who will jail an Israeli soldier and exchange him for prisoners will be rewarded with a $100,000 prize," he wrote on his Facebook page.

 




Al-Qarni's Facebook page

 

Al-Qarni's post has already received more than 1,000 likes and extensive coverage in Hamas-affiliated newspapers in Gaza.

 

Al-Qarni is a famous Muslim cleric who often guests on TV shows and operates his own website where he discusses various religious law issues. The Palestine-Islam issue is particularly close to his heart.

18087
Politics & Religion / Re: Syria next?
« on: October 25, 2011, 12:39:15 PM »
A number of us have commented on the incongruity of going after Kadaffy but not Assad in Syria.

Now that Kadaffy is gone, I gather that Sen. McCain (you remember him, most of us voted for him over Baraq) has called for going after Syria's Assad.

What say we?


So, instead of a Iran aligned Syria, we get a AQ aligned Syria?

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Politics & Religion / US States Are Facing Total Debt of Over $4 Trillion
« on: October 25, 2011, 04:56:23 AM »
http://www.cnbc.com/id/45019599

US States Are Facing Total Debt of Over $4 Trillion

The total of U.S. state debt, including pension liabilities, could surpass $4 trillion, with California owing the most and Vermont owing the least, a new analysis says.

 
The nonprofit State Budget Solutions combined states' major debt and future liabilities, primarily for pensions and employee healthcare, unemployment insurance loans, outstanding bonds and projected fiscal 2011 budget gaps. It found that in total, states are in debt for $4.2 trillion.

The group, which follows state fiscal conditions and advocates for limited spending and taxes, said the deficit calculations that states make "do not offer a full picture of the states' liabilities and can rely on budget gimmicks and accounting games to hide the extent of the deficit."

The housing bust, financial crisis and economic recession  caused states' tax revenue to plunge, and huge holes have emerged in their budgets over the last few years. Because all states except Vermont must end their fiscal years with balanced budgets, states have scrambled to cut spending, hike taxes, borrow and turn to the federal government for help.

Taxpayers are worried the states' poor fiscal health will persist for a long time and some Republicans in Congress have questioned whether the situation is worse than the states say.

State Budget Solutions relied on financial reports and income tax rates provided by the Federation of Tax Administrators in determining its rankings.

The true debt totals may be lower, though, because the group also used the highest estimates of pension gaps. The conservative think tank American Enterprise Institute says public pensions are short $2.8 trillion.

Others, including the nonpartisan research group Pew Center on the States, put total unfunded pension liabilities at around $700 billion.

The wide range is based on different assumptions of the returns of pension fund investments, which provide the bulk of money for benefit payments. Conservative economists say the investments will have annual returns of around 4 percent, while many funds expect returns in line with the average of the last 20 years — closer to 8 percent.

Using the higher pension gap number, State Budget Solutions said California is in the biggest financial hole — with total debt of more than $612 billion. New York follows with $305 billion of debt, and then Texas, with total debt of $283 billion. Vermont has the lowest amount of total debt at just over $6 billion.

The group also looked at the financial shape of states using the Pew pension projections. It came up with a total debt of $2 trillion for all states.

California still owes the most under the alternative computation, but the state's total debt drops significantly, to $307 billion. With the Pew numbers, New Jersey follows with $183 billion of debt and Illinois is next at $150 billion.

According to the analysis, California has also borrowed the most from the federal government to pay for unemployment benefits, $8.6 billion. Michigan was next, taking out $3.1 billion, and then New York, borrowing $2.9 billion.

As unemployment shot up, some states could not pay for the surge in demand for jobless benefits. The federal government loosened its lending rules to keep states from having to cut other areas of their budgets. But last month the U.S. government again began charging interest on the outstanding loans and may levy extra taxes on businesses in states with outstanding loans.

Looking at just state annual financial statements, the group found Connecticut has the highest debt per capita, at $5,402, and nine states have debt of more than $3,000 per capita.


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Politics & Religion / No hope
« on: October 24, 2011, 04:20:44 PM »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CSXGlkq_SQ&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CSXGlkq_SQ&feature=player_embedded

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As far as protecting your money, as I've said "guns, ammo and canned food". Seriously, tangible assets are the way to go. Owning a house free and clear is a good option.

Making money? Well, if the 500,000 real estate purchase=residency visa law goes through, I've got a ready made business plan. Much like the Hong Kongers that bought up Vancouver when HK got betrayed by the UK, Many wealthy mainlanders want US property and visas as a escape plan should China experience "troubles" in the future.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203752604576641421449460968.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

HOMES OCTOBER 20, 2011.

Foreigners' Sweetener: Buy House, Get a Visa .

By NICK TIMIRAOS

The reeling housing market has come to this: To shore it up, two Senators are preparing to introduce a bipartisan bill Thursday that would give residence visas to foreigners who spend at least $500,000 to buy houses in the U.S.

The provision is part of a larger package of immigration measures, co-authored by Sens. Charles Schumer (D., N.Y.) and Mike Lee (R., Utah), designed to spur more foreign investment in the U.S.

Supporters of the bill, co-authored by Sen. Charles Schumer, say it would help make up for American buyers who are holding back.
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Foreigners have accounted for a growing share of home purchases in South Florida, Southern California, Arizona and other hard-hit markets. Chinese and Canadian buyers, among others, are taking advantage not only of big declines in U.S. home prices and reduced competition from Americans but also of favorable foreign exchange rates.


To fuel this demand, the proposed measure would offer visas to any foreigner making a cash investment of at least $500,000 on residential real-estate—a single-family house, condo or townhouse. Applicants can spend the entire amount on one house or spend as little as $250,000 on a residence and invest the rest in other residential real estate, which can be rented out.

The measure would complement existing visa programs that allow foreigners to enter the U.S. if they invest in new businesses that create jobs. Backers believe the initiative would help soak up an excess supply of inventory when many would-be American home buyers are holding back because they're concerned about their jobs or because they would have to take a big loss to sell their current house.

"This is a way to create more demand without costing the federal government a nickel," Sen. Schumer said in an interview.

International buyers accounted for around $82 billion in U.S. residential real-estate sales for the year ending in March, up from $66 billion during the previous year period, according to data from the National Association of Realtors. Foreign buyers accounted for at least 5.5% of all home sales in Miami and 4.3% of Phoenix home sales during the month of July, according to MDA DataQuick.

Foreigners immigrating to the U.S. with the new visa wouldn't be able to work here unless they obtained a regular work visa through the normal process. They'd be allowed to bring a spouse and any children under the age of 18 but they wouldn't be able to stay in the country legally on the new visa once they sold their properties.

The provision would create visas that are separate from current programs so as to not displace anyone waiting for other visas. There would be no cap on the home-buyer visa program.

Over the past year, Canadians accounted for one quarter of foreign home buyers, and buyers from China, Mexico, Great Britain, and India accounted for another quarter, according to the National Association of Realtors. For buyers from some countries, restrictive immigration rules are "a deterrent to purchase here, for sure," says Sally Daley, a real-estate agent in Vero Beach, Fla. She estimates that around one-third of her sales this year have gone to foreigners, an all-time high.

"Without them, we would be stagnant," says Ms. Daley. "They're hiring contractors, buying furniture, and they're also helping the market correct by getting inventory whittled down."

In March, Harry Morrison, a Canadian from Lakefield, Ontario, bought a four-bedroom vacation home in a gated community in Vero Beach. "House prices were going down, and the exchange rate was quite favorable," said Mr. Morrison, who first bought a home there from Ms. Daley four years ago.

While a special visa would allow Canadian buyers like Mr. Morrison to spend more time in the U.S., he said he isn't sure "what other benefit a visa would give me."

The idea has some high-profile supporters, including Warren Buffett, who this summer floated the idea of encouraging more "rich immigrants" to buy homes. "If you wanted to change your immigration policy so that you let 500,000 families in but they have to have a significant net worth and everything, you'd solve things very quickly," Mr. Buffett said in an August interview with PBS's Charlie Rose.

The measure could also help turn around buyer psychology, said mortgage-bond pioneer Lewis Ranieri. He said the program represented "triage" for a housing market that needs more fixes, even modest ones.

But other industry executives greeted the proposal with skepticism. Foreign buyers "don't need an incentive" to buy homes, said Richard Smith, chief executive of Realogy Corp., which owns the Coldwell Banker and Century 21 real-estate brands. "We have a lot of Americans who are willing to buy. We just have to fix the economy."

The measure may have a more targeted effect in exclusive markets like San Marino, Calif., that have become popular with foreigners. Easier immigration rules could be "tremendous" because of the difficulty many Chinese buyers have in obtaining visas, says Maggie Navarro, a local real-estate agent.

Ms. Navarro recently sold a home for $1.67 million, around 8% above the asking price, to a Chinese national who works in the mining industry. She says nearly every listing she's put on the market in San Marino "has had at least one full price cash offer from a buyer from mainland China."


Corrections & Amplifications
Harry Morrison bought a four-bedroom vacation home in Vero Beach in March. He first bought a home there four years ago from Sally Daley, a local real-estate agent. An earlier version of this story incorrectly said Ms. Daley sold the four-bedroom home to Mr. Morrison in March.

Write to Nick Timiraos at nick.timiraos@wsj.com

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As far as protecting your money, as I've said "guns, ammo and canned food". Seriously, tangible assets are the way to go. Owning a house free and clear is a good option.

Making money? Well, if the 500,000 real estate purchase=residency visa law goes through, I've got a ready made business plan. Much like the Hong Kongers that bought up Vancouver when HK got betrayed by the UK, Many wealthy mainlanders want US property and visas as a escape plan should China experience "troubles" in the future.

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Politics & Religion / Re: China, no hard landing...
« on: October 24, 2011, 02:15:18 PM »
Asia's Wesbury?  :wink:

"Many experienced international investors look at a decline in housing prices as a signal of serious trouble to come. But Beijing itself has engineered this decline using policies that restrict house purchases. If this starts to cause major macroeconomic consequences, the government could easily reverse the restrictions."

Sounds a lot like an argument that could have been made in the U.S., how the resources and powers of the Treasury, the Federal Reserve and FDIC and federal GSEs guaranteeing loans would remove any risk beyond minor fluctuations in housing prices here.  How's that going?

In closing: "Only if there is another global recession would China suffer a hard landing..."

And what are the odds of that?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2011/10/16/chinas-economy-the-correction-history-will-remember/2/

The stocks of Chinese banks fell this year and were trading at price-to-book ratios that assumed these institutions would suffer substantial losses on their loan portfolios.  Beijing’s sovereign wealth fund had to launch a rescue last week by announcing open-market share purchases of Chinese banks.

The move triggered a short rally, but it did not solve the fundamental problem: Credit Suisse last week said that bad debt could be as much as 60% of bank equity.  The 60% figure assumes that bad loans constitute only 12% of loan portfolios, but as in the bank crisis at the end of the 1990s, questionable assets are probably multiples of this figure.

The problem for Beijing is that this time, unlike the end of 2008, it has little flexibility to dump money in the economy to restart growth and save borrowers.  It already did that and has, in addition to inflation, created historically high property prices, vacant apartment buildings, and debt-swollen local government financing vehicles.  Yes, increasing liquidity would aid borrowers in the short-term, but that tactic would only make the debt bomb bigger.

Beijing could take foreign currency out of its reserves to recapitalize its largest banks—as it did in early 2004—but that just pushes the People’s Bank of China, the country’s central bank, deeper into insolvency.  In any event, recapitalization would buy only a little time.

The Chinese central government has, in past crises, sustained the momentum of the economy by creating circular flows of cash, using money from one state institution to bail out other ones.  Yet all artificial situations eventually end.  State-dominated economies have more ability to postpone the inevitable, but the corrections they suffer are often worse as a result of continual deferrals.

Like 2008, the Chinese economy is now emitting strong signals it wants to correct.  Last time, Beijing, flush with cash, chose to override the market and postpone the reckoning with its “tidal-wave” spending.  Now, Chinese technocrats are almost out of options.

As a result, the downturn in China this time is probably the one history remembers.

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Politics & Religion / Re: Iraq
« on: October 24, 2011, 01:05:41 PM »
Without the presence of nearly 50,000 U.S. troops that has defined the security environment in recent years, there will inherently be a greater exposure and vulnerability of the U.S. personnel that remain behind in the years ahead.

No worries, I'm sure the Iranian forces will look after them.

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Politics & Religion / Rhode Island: Athens of America?
« on: October 24, 2011, 09:15:03 AM »
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2011/10/23/rhode-island-athens-of-america/

October 23, 2011


Rhode Island: Athens of America?

 Walter Russell Mead


Rhode Island is looking more and more like Greece, and not in a good way.  That is one message of this important piece by Mary Williams Walsh in the New York Times.  Years of blue social policy have wrecked local and state government finance in the country’s smallest state, and now the bills are coming due.  Services are being cut to the bone and elderly retirees are losing money they thought was secure.
 
In Rhode Island, it is Democrats, not nasty union-hating Republicans, who are doing the dirty work.  Democratic mayors are telling their unions that there isn’t any money — not because they are vicious corporate stooges who hate working people and want to see them suffer, but because There. Isn’t. Any. Money.
 
Because Rhode Island listened to timeserving blue politicians too long, and union leaders and public sector workers lost their grip on any mathematical realities beyond the numbers at the ballot box, the pension system grew more and more out of control. State and local governments lurched into a crisis.  Vote yourself a raise, vote yourself a pension: why not?
 
But there is financial math as well as political math and in any war with financial arithmetic, the money numbers win.  If there isn’t any money, the checks won’t clear.  Ultimately, you will have to fire existing workers, stop paying pensions or a mix of both. That is where Rhode Island is now: its economy can’t generate the revenue to support its existing governance system and to pay its pension obligations.
 
The Ostrich Party has long ruled Rhode Island; their heads planted firmly in the sand - if not in even darker and damper regions – Rhode Island politicians, government and union officials have done everything possible to conceal the true state of affairs from the voters, the bondholders, retirees and even themselves.  Unrealistic assumptions about rates of return helped hide the ugly truth about the looming pension meltdown — and anybody who tried to raise the alarm about the coming crisis was hooted down as an enemy of the workers.  Even now the true blue firing squads are assembling to shoot the messenger; Mary Williams Walsh can expect angry push back from a whole sector of American political life that thinks this whole problem will go away if we tax the rich, clap our hands and all say together, “I believe in government”.
 
But “objectively”, as our Marxist friends would say, the union leaders and their political chums were the worst enemies of the workers: they told state workers that their benefits were secure even as it became increasingly obvious that, as a matter of arithmetic, they were not.
 
Let’s be crystal clear about this.  To tell a 50 year old pretty lies about the soundness of a pension plan is one of the most wicked and irresponsible things you can do without actually shedding blood; people who believe these phony promises will not make the extra savings, work the extra years or otherwise take steps to protect themselves until it is too late.  Telling those pretty lies is exactly what Rhode Island’s establishment has been doing for some time; it is what Ostrich Party legislators, trade unionists, journalists and governors are still doing across much of the country.
 
Reasonable reforms could have made things much less painful, but the unions typically threaten to destroy the careers of any politician who tampers with the pension system until the truck actually starts falling over the cliff.  Now the long fall has begun and Rhode Island and its retirees are caught in a cascade of bad news, lawsuits, and financial crisis.  No Rhode Island retiree can rely on getting the benefits promised; nobody can predict how this will all work out.
 
That is not the kind of uncertainty that 70 year old retired teachers and firefighters should have to face.  A decent society would not let that happen — but the blue social model in its decadent late shark-jumping years of fake promises is anything but decent. Political chicanery, fuzzy math, denial, rhetoric, ambition: this is how a union betrays its members, this is how politicians betray their constituents.
 
To give the devil his due, this monumental crack up was the result, in its early stages, of ignorance and complacency more than anything else.  The union leadership and the statehouse pols took growth for granted.  They had grown up in the post war boom; good times were what they expected.  They believed that the American economy would continue to grow richer every year and that there was a never-failing cornucopia of “more” somewhere that would somehow make sure that there was always enough money in the kitty to redeem the promises made.  You could always squeeze another quart out of the milk cow.
 
This was a natural mistake to make — in 1972.  But state and local government ignored a generation of warnings that the wheels were coming off the car of the blue social model, and especially in rust belt states like Rhode Island.  Factories closed, the economy changed, the state fiscal picture grew steadily worse, but these facts were not allowed to penetrate the closed shop in which the union leaders and their political allies made plans for the future.  The state’s economy would continue to grow at a rate which would make it possible to pay new state workers higher and higher salaries even as a growing number of retirees could collect increasingly generous pensions — adjusted, of course, for inflation every year.  You could tax the rich, defer maintenance, hit the bond markets — and when all else failed, you could assume that your underperforming pension reserves were invested in magic growth beans that would automatically gain 8.5 percent in value forever.
 



Providence City Hall (Wkimedia)
 
The union leadership in Rhode Island, as in the majority of US public and private workplaces, failed in the first task of the stakeholder: they failed to undertake and support changes that would ensure the health of the enterprise down the road.  This is partly about wages, pensions and work rules: making unrealistic demands only stores up trouble down the road.  But more profoundly it is about not thinking seriously about the future of the company or, in Rhode Island’s case, of the state.
 


What economic development options did Rhode Island have to build a sustainable new economy as the old one withered away?  Locked into the assumptions of the blue social model, Rhode Island planners, like their counterparts across the country, fell for white elephant concepts like convention centers, those cliched “new urbanism” pedestrian malls and downtown redevelopments that never seem to work, Solyndra style industrial policy and all the other failed nostrums that strike upper middle class social engineers as cool but that rarely make anything as vulgar and utilitarian as money.
 
There was a lot of expensive churn, many consultants deposited checks, but the underlying economy never turned around.  The serial failure of one plan after another to regenerate solid growth, turn around the population trend, put Medicare on a sustainable path, and reverse the decline of the cities never led to a questioning of basic assumptions — and it never led the Ostrich Party to think through the implications of economic stagnation and decline for the state’s pension system and its future budgeting.
 
More care and foresight could have spared Rhode Island’s workers and retirees some of the sacrifices that will now have to be made.  But that would have forced the many members of the Ostrich Party to pull their heads out of the warm and comfortable dark in order to look around and act.  Denial was psychologically more comfortable and politically safer.  The more untenable the old system became, the more tightly they shut their eyes and closed their minds.
 
The lesson goes farther than Rhode Island.  As Walsh points out in the Times, Rhode Island style pension meltdowns look increasingly possible in hard pressed cities and states across the country.  Can public sector union leaders in other states begin to think proactively about how to build a post-blue economic future and put their muscle behind genuinely forward looking development ideas or will they wait, as in Rhode Island, for the truck to go over the cliff?
 
We can dream.  Yes, we can.
 
After Rhode Island, What Next?
 
As the American political system attempts to grapple with the growing pension, debt and entitlement crisis, three types of responses seem to be emerging.  There is the true blue ostrich approach of the unions themselves and their closest allies: denial and rage.  There is the attitude of more centrist Democrats like Governor Cuomo and Mayor Emanuel: make prudent cuts, hold the line on spending, work to quietly make government more efficient without jumping into a full scale confrontation with the unions.  And there is the Scott Walker, dragonslayer approach: take them on.
 
The rage and denial crowd in the Ostrich Party, rumps in the air, have nowhere to go.  Both the Cuomo and the Walker approaches have their merits — though it seems to me that neither is exactly what we need.  Cuomo style gradualism may soften the hard landing, but it doesn’t do enough to reverse the decline of the blue state economies.  Upstate New York is in desperate shape, and it cannot prosper without a radical reduction of its cost structure.  New York City is simply becoming more and more of an appendage to Wall Street, even as public opinion in the city turns against the one healthy industry it still has. Governor Cuomo’s policy mix holds out hope to slow the decline — but there is little to suggest that New York can go back to the innovation and leadership that once made it the country’s most dynamic growth engine and a wonder of the world.
 
The Cuomo/Emanuel Democrats want to fight the unions and the government lobby over specific issues, but they don’t want to pay the ideological and political costs of taking on the worldview behind the blue model machine.  I think leadership today has to do more: political leaders need to talk to the public about what has changed and why, and talk also about where we can go from here.  Intelligently managing the decline of the blue social model is better than nothing, but what is really needed is to prepare a transition to a new kind of growth.
 
But if the Mama Bear New Democrats serve their porridge too cool, the Papa Bear Republicans like Wisconsin’s Scott Walker and Ohio’s John Kasich risk serving it too hot.
 
Polarizing politics and demonizing state and local government workers is not a good idea.  It is unfair for one thing; it is bad politics for another.  Toxic blue model legacy costs are the problem: rigidly bureaucratic government structures, unrealistic costs, years of underfunded pension plans, regulations that choke growth and initiative, outdated progressive ideas about how change works — these are the roots of our problems, not the middle school teacher down the street or the retired post office worker living modestly on a pension that may be underfunded but is hardly a bonanza.
 
The fifty year old teacher, fireman or police officer may have been naive to believe his or her union leaders, the politicians and the journalists who all said there was nothing to worry about — but most of those workers cannot be called “greedy” or “selfish”.  They are victims of a complex, multi-player Ponzi scheme and have been lied to by a lot of people for a long time.  They also face some serious financial costs.  Not only are their pensions likely to be less generous and solid than they were led to expect; they may well face layoffs and wage freezes as states struggle to cope with legacy costs.
 



The first church in Rhode Island, founded by Roger Williams (Wikimedia)
 




Reform cannot and should not be understood simply as an assault on state and local government workers — although these workers cannot be insulated from the general consequences of a major failure of our political system.  The problem is not that teachers and firefighters earn “too much” money; the problem is that we have developed a dysfunctional social system which cannot pay its bills.  The public economy needs to be rationalized and restructured, but the most important job is to revitalize and energize the private sector.
 
Ultimately the only solution is for the country to move on to a new post-blue economic model that can generate enough wealth to cover our existing debts. In the absence of a serious growth agenda, both the Cuomo and the Walker approaches can’t get the job done. And what the country needs is a competition between growth strategies, not a contest between strategies for cutbacks.
 
In the meantime, there is one thing that state and municipal workers and taxpayers can and should demand: honest and transparent accounting standards that make absolutely clear and explicit what the state of public pensions systems really are, what the assumptions are that underpin them, what the chances are that the systems may fall short, and what the fiscal consequences of any shortcomings are likely to be.  Those reports ought to be annual, they ought to be impartial, they ought to be conducted in accordance with the strictest accounting principles, and the results ought to be public.
 
This is something that everybody should support: from the Tea Party to OWS and beyond; accurate public reporting on the state of worker pensions should be a no-brainer.  If we can’t solve our problems overnight, let’s at least have a no-denial zone when it comes to public pensions.
 
Defend your country: kick an ostrich.

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Politics & Religion / The Limits of Stimulus
« on: October 24, 2011, 05:55:19 AM »

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/10/the-limits-of-stimulus/247178/

The Limits of Stimulus
By Megan McArdle

Oct 21 2011, 2:37 PM ET192

Kevin Drum ponders an interesting factoid: rising gas prices have pretty much wiped out the whole cash value of the stimulus to families:


Stimulus is hard in an energy-constrained world. I confess that the more I think about this, the more I wonder if conventional fiscal/monetary policy has as much traction as we believe. I'm not an energy fundamentalist by any stretch, but the constraints are real. Ordinary stimulus measures still work, and we should be pursuing them more aggressively, but I can't help but suspect that we're entering an era where they're getting less effective all the time.
My macro professor at the University of Chicago argued that the stagflation of the 1970s looks pretty good as an oil-led phenomenon; when supply constraints are real, stepping up the fiscal and monetary policy gives you inflation plus economic doldrums.



But how relevant is that to the current recession?  Well, James Hamilton has made a prettly compelling case that oil prices are responsible for more of the current setback than we might think.  And even if you dispute that, I think it's easy to agree that they're making a bad downturn worse.




While I was at Chicago last weekend I sat down with Raghu Rajan, formerly Chief Economist of the IMF.  And one of the things he pointed out is that the Great Moderation bred this assumption that policy can always do something.  That may not be the case.

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Politics & Religion / Scenes from the future
« on: October 24, 2011, 05:44:10 AM »

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/20/sunday/main20034120.shtml

At 66, Alfred Arnold considers himself lucky, in a way. In September 2009, when the city of Prichard, Alabama, suddenly stopped paying pension checks to its retirees, at least he was able to work, as a security guard at a mall in Mobile.


And this past Christmas, instead of exchanging gifts, mall employees gave all the money they would have spent on each other to Alfred and his wife Jackie.


"They knew we didn't have a pension, we wasn't getting paid," said Alfred.


"How did you feel?" Teichner asked about the gift.


"Oh, man, that was devastating. I almost cried."


Alfred Arnold was Prichard's first black firefighter. He retired after 35 years, as a captain.


"If I didn't retire, I might not make it to the next day, going in the fire. You know, it gets too strenuous, you know? So I had to retire because I had heart problems."


Jackie worked for the Prichard Police Department for 40 years, and was the city's first female officer.


"I retired in June 2009," Jackie said. "I received two pension checks, and nothing after that. I said, 'Well, they'll come up with something.' But nothing ever happened."


"Had it not been for my job at the mall as a security officer, we probably couldn't even eat," Alfred said.


After 17 months, it's come to this: The Arnolds and Prichard's other retirees want to know what's wrong with this picture. Why handouts? Why not the pensions they contributed to? The pensions state law says Prichard has to pay?


"You can't draw blood from a turnip," said attorney Scott Williams, who represents the city of Prichard. "All the colloquialisms you want to come up with, if the money's not there, we can't pay it.


"If we took all the city's money and paid it to the pensioners, we won't have money to pay for the fire department or to keep the street lights on."


Prichard is small: 144 retirees, 27,000 residents. But what happens in Prichard is being watched by much larger cities - Chicago . . . Philadelphia . . . San Diego, to name a few - and by many states.


They all would like nothing better than to dump their staggeringly underfunded pension plans.


"Across the United States there is a difference of $3 trillion between the amount of money that we have promised public employees and the amount that has been set aside," said Joshua Rauh, who teaches finance at Northwestern University's Kellogg School of Management.


He's tracked the pension crisis: "Politicians are often trying to make it look like we can have our cake and eat it, too. And that's created a situation where we just push the problem down the road. And now we or our kids are going to have to pay for it."


Prichard has reached the end of that road. During the 1960s and '70s it was thriving - the fastest growing city in Alabama. Its population: 45,000 at its peak. Then, businesses began to leave, and hard times set in for good.


In 1999, its finances in shambles, the city declared bankruptcy. The pension fund was in trouble then. The city ignored a court order to replenish it.


A letter dated 2008 was sent to members of the city council and the mayor saying, essentially, that the pension fund would run out of money in July 2009.

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"The math was pretty simple," said city councilman Troy Ephriam, chairman of the pension board. "I think the letter was basically saying something needs to be done. And it needs to be done immediately. Unfortunately, there were no real efforts.


"I don't feel we've done everything in our power to prevent the inevitable from happening."


Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Famous last words being heard all over the country these days. When its pension fund did run out of money - right on schedule - what did Prichard do? It filed for bankruptcy, again, this time hoping to be rid of its pension.


"Was the attempt to file for bankruptcy a deliberate attempt to stall, to not solve that problem?" asked Teichner.


"Yes, yes, absolutely," said Ephriam.


The petition was eventually thrown out of court.


The city now owes its pensioners more than $2.5 million in back payments.


Robert Hedge represents retirees in a class action suit against the city of Prichard. He tells of their sad stories, such as Nettie Banks, a former police dispatcher who ended up having to file for bankruptcy.


"This breaks my heart," he said of another case. "Hugh Dawsett has some serious arthritis issues, unable to work. His 73-year-old wife had to go back to work.


"We're talking about, on average, $1,000 a month per person," said Hedge. "That's the difference between buying your medications and buying food."


And then there are current employees, like Police Captain Charles Kennedy. He's 67, has had a serious heart attack and open heart surgery, but can't afford to retire.


"Because if I was to leave now, I'd be like the rest of the retirees - I'd have nothing," he said.


Kennedy is the most decorated officer on the Prichard police force.


"I dedicated myself to the city. I did my part," he said.


And that's what gets him about how the city has acted.


"I did an honorable job for them," Kennedy said. "I think they owe me the same kind of respect."


Retired Fire Captain Alfred Arnold agrees.


"It's one thing to lose one check, but to lose two? That's devastating, you know what I mean?" he said. "You're not giving us something that we didn't earn. You're not giving us no welfare. You're giving us our money that we put in, see? Where's it? How we supposed to live?"


On Thursday nights at city council meetings, local reporters ambush Prichard Mayor Ron Davis: "These people haven't been paid in 17 months. What can you say?"


"I'm concerned about them not getting paid," Davis replied. "I would like to see them get some payment."

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http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/10/rhode-island-a-public-sector-pension-plan-which-doesnt-make-anything/

Rhode Island – A public sector pension plan which doesn’t make anything

 



Posted by William A. Jacobson   Sunday, October 23, 2011 at 9:51am

You know about the RI pension mess, because I’ve been pounding that issue pretty much since the founding of this blog three years ago.
 
The New York Times takes a devastating look at Rhode Island, The Little State With a Big Mess (h/t @amandacarpenter):
 

ON the night of Sept. 8, Gina M. Raimondo, a financier by trade, rolled up here with news no one wanted to hear: Rhode Island, she declared, was going broke.
 
Maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow. But if current trends held, Ms. Raimondo warned, the Ocean State would soon look like Athens on the Narragansett: undersized and overextended. Its economy would wither. Jobs would vanish. The state would be hollowed out.
 
It is not the sort of message you might expect from Ms. Raimondo, a proud daughter of Providence, a successful venture capitalist and, not least, the current general treasurer of Rhode Island. But it is a message worth hearing. The smallest state in the union, it turns out, has a very big debt problem.
 
After decades of drift, denial and inaction, Rhode Island’s $14.8 billion pension system is in crisis. Ten cents of every state tax dollar now goes to retired public workers. Before long, Ms. Raimondo has been cautioning in whistle-stops here and across the state, that figure will climb perilously toward 20 cents….
 
In some ways, the central question is not only what the government owes to pensioners but what citizens owe to one another.
 
That last sentence hits the nail on the head.  In Rhode Island, the citizenry is being asked to spend increasing percentages of its income and assets not for the general welfare, but for the welfare of a relatively small percentage of the population who have state and municipal pensions.
 
It’s often joked that General Motors is a pension plan which makes automobiles.  Rhode Island is in worse shape.  Rhode Island is becoming a public sector pension plan which doesn’t make anything.


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Politics & Religion / Re: Google Fu help request
« on: October 24, 2011, 05:09:42 AM »
Can someone find the youtube or other URL for last night's "60 Minutes" segment on Steve Jobs' I-Pad helping autistic people?

I know someone with a very autistic child and heard that the segment was quite good.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7385686n&tag=mncol;lst;3

This?

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Doug,

I hope you are correct. One of the problem with these low interest rates and the devaluation of the dollar is the impact on the retired. If a republican were in office, the MSM would be filled with images of struggling retirees. My wife and I have our retirements sunk into a state retirement fund that by most estimates will be defunct in 5 years or so. We haven't even begun to see the waves of new American poverty waiting on the horizon. Most pension funds, public and privates are in similar situations.

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