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Politics & Religion / Re: The War on Drugs
« on: February 27, 2007, 12:10:44 AM »
I'm in Australia so I can only guess at the way things are in the states, here cigerette companys are not allowed to sponser events such as football matches and have massive restrictions on advertising. Alcohol is under similar bans to a lesser degree, like only certain hours for TV advertising.

In terms of legalising all other drugs, one of the best ways to take the power out of something is to accept it. So by legalising the drugs the local dealers would go out of business and ideally the streets would clean up. That being said I am against it, as I believe that it is not going to getting the junkies off the streets and all the same issues would still occur only now it would be more 'accepted' as just a part of life.

Jason

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Politics & Religion / Re: Politically (In)correct
« on: February 27, 2007, 12:00:21 AM »
I agree with Crafty, and would like to add that you should be allowed to hold what ever opinion you like on anything, the real issue is the effect that it has on the rest of your life and interaction with other people.
Do you hold a opinion of such dislike towards something to the extent that you are rude when faced with it?
Or do just advoid it where possible, and when not be polite till you may seperate yourself from it?

Jason

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Science, Culture, & Humanities / Re: Manly Christians
« on: January 13, 2007, 05:56:01 PM »
As the story of Jesus goes he is a carpenter.

In his day there were no chainsaws and power tools everything had to be done by hand. For those of you that haven't had to do that sort of work, it is very hard swinging an axe, moving wood, cutting it with a saw and hammering nails into it. Ever seen a small lumber jack, especially in the days before power tools.

Goerge Foreman (?) said in one of his interviews that he incorprated that sort of work into his training routine before winning the title (i think it was the second time) he also said afterwards that he is not going to train like that again as it is to hard, and he went in over prepared.

Also if you look at the movements of sawing wood, swinging a hammer or an axe they are very similar to punching and striking. (My instructor also regularly says that the best technique and power punchers to train are carpenters)

When Jesus became 'big' he was in his thirties, so if he had started work at age 15 he had at least 15 years worth of expierence of hard labour, in movements similar to martial arts.

Definatly not someone to take lightly.

Jason

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Politics & Religion / Re: Environmental issues
« on: November 01, 2006, 09:36:32 AM »
The term global warming needs to be changed dropping the warming section, as it seems to many people are getting caught up and focused on one word.

I live in tropical australia and this year we had record cold tempatures during winter and we are entering summer, and so far the tempatures are the hottest it has been in years. We have had less rain during the wet season and more in the dry season than in the past. Last year the weather office predicted a quite year in terms of cyclones and yet we had more than predicted, they were also more destructive, with a couple of them coming at the very end of the cyclone season.

Australia as a whole is also expierencing the worst drought in recorded history, the daly river which is one of the strongest rivers in australia is barely a creek and in many areas you can walk across it without getting your feet wet.

I also think in the last few years the number and scale of natural disasters has been much larger.

Whether the globe is truly 'warming' or not, the weather has definatly been turned around.

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Politics & Religion / WW3
« on: June 14, 2006, 09:30:05 AM »
Abu Baker Bashir of Bali Bombing fame, has been released from Prison today from a sentence that got shorter and shorter each time it was mentioned. He is heading back to continue his teachings which ispired the Bali bombings and the way inwhich the whole situation has been handled by indonesia sound very similar to lack of regard that iran has for anyone else.

Jason
Australia

From Ninemsn
World News

Abu Bakar Bashir, the firebrand Islamic cleric accused of inspiring the first Bali bombings, has walked free from Jakarta's main prison and into the arms of hundreds of jubilant militant supporters.

Lifting his hands in the air an otherwise subdued Bashir muttered "I thank Allah" as he was mobbed by adoring fans, many in black "mujahidin" jackets.

Wearing a white skull cap, grey suit and red checked headscarf, the bespectacled 68-year-old made no mention of the 2002 Bali bombings, in which 88 Australians were killed, or a subsequent string of deadly terrorist attacks in Indonesia.
 
"To the lawyers who have enthusiastically defended me during the trial we will keep on fighting to uphold sharia," he said in a brief speech targeting moderate opponents.

"Upholding sharia is full of struggle," he added, before being whisked away with his son Rachim in a black van to begin a road trip to Solo, an ancient royal city in central Java where he teaches his radical brand of Islam at the Ngruki boarding school, dubbed the "Ivy League" of militant academies.

During his road trip he planned to visit earthquake survivors around nearby Yogyakarta.

Security was tight outside the prison with scores of police keeping watch.

Scores of supporters were bused in to cheer Bashir. But three were killed in a car accident on their way from Solo.

Many in the crowd wore headbands and carried copies of Bashir's new book, I Was Falsely Accused, The Days of Abu Bakar Bashir in Prison.

On its pages, the cleric denounces Prime Minister John Howard as "an infidel" and "enemy of Allah".

He also accuses Foreign Minister Alexander Downer of pressuring Indonesia to keep him in prison following an earlier 18-month jail sentence for minor immigration offences.

The Malaysian-born Bashir denied allegations by western nations that he is the "emir", or spiritual head, of the Jemaah Islamiah terrorist network.

He has called on all Indonesian Muslims to defend the nation "against violence".

"We must believe that this country will be safe from all darkness under Islamic sharia," he said.

Bashir was released 15 minutes ahead of schedule and his chaotic departure from Jakarta's Cipinang Prison took his legal team by surprise.

One of Bashir's lawyers, Adnan Wirawan, said plans for the journey to Solo had been thrown into disarray by a small band of supporters who bundled him into a van.

"This is not the plan and right now we don't know where he is," Adnan told AAP.

"All the plans that we have set up for him, it has been deviated. We have to find him so we can take him to Solo."

Australia's government has called on Indonesia to place Bashir under close surveillance amid warnings by some terrorist analysts that his release could inspire more terror attacks.

The United States said it was deeply disappointed with Bashir's release from what Washington believed had been a light 25-month sentence for giving blessings to the first Bali attacks.

Asked about possible police surveillance of his father, Rachim said he was unafraid.

"I don't care about it. If they want to watch, go ahead," he said.

Lawyer Adnan said any move to place Bashir under surveillance would be a violation of his rights.

"I expect that there will be a discrimination surveillance of him and that would be unconstitutional, because he is as free as everyone else in the country," he said.

Accusations Bashir had been the leader of JI would be proven wrong, Adnan said.

"That is a paranoid version of the western media. He has never been a man of violence," he said.

"What is to be afraid of? He has never been proven to kill a fly, an animal, he has never been proven to kill anyone."

The massive show of support for Bashir outside the prison proved he was innocent, Adnan said.

"People will not worship someone who is evil, who is a criminal, and if a lot of people still worship him it proves that he is an innocent man," he said.

Before Bashir's release, Indonesia's State Intelligence Agency chief, Syamsir Siregar, said he hoped Bashir would not cause any trouble.

"We hope Bashir, after he has been jailed, will regain his self-awareness and be willing to cooperate with us," Siregar told politicians earlier this week.

Jemaah Islamiah is accused of carrying out church bombings across Indonesia in 2000, the Bali bombings in 2002, attacks in the Indonesian capital in 2003 and 2004, and a triple suicide bombing on Bali last October. The attacks together killed more than 260 people.

Bashir has little active support in Indonesia, where most Muslims follow a moderate form of the faith.

On his road trip Bashir criticised the United States.

"The United States is a state terrorist because it is waging war against Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan," he told reporters when asked about US accusations he was a terror leader.

Bashir made the remark after he stopped for midday prayers in the town of Tegal, 300km east of Jakarta.

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Politics & Religion / Handreading Resource
« on: February 09, 2006, 08:21:43 PM »
Can you please recommend some good books, videos on the subject for a novice.

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On the Danish muslim cartoons:
I believe there is a need for censorship within the public/media and greater discipline/respect for other people and their beliefs. I am not a muslim yet I have seen and found the cartoons to be offensive, just as i find cartoons of Jesus offensive, the same as I find people trashing (not having lively discussion, flat out rubbishing it) my choices in martial arts or anything else.

But this whole deal of violent protests is over the top and they need to remeber they are just Cartoons, and if you don't like the cartoons just put the paper at the bottom of the bird cage.

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