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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #601 on: April 16, 2018, 06:38:10 AM »
everything Comey and now his wife say is to expultate themselves with the Left.

no mention of how he *corruptly* lets Hillary off the hook from crimes she committed by his present book tour by him, his wife, or the MSM :

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/04/15/comey-wife-wanted-woman-president-really-badly-supported-hillary-clinton/

he is corrupt  he was obviously  in cahoots with Lynch and Obama to let Hillary off.  End of story
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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #602 on: April 16, 2018, 08:10:03 AM »
Agreed.

Moving on, Judge Napolitano this morning points out that the SDNY investigation is regular DOJ and as such AG Sessions is not recused with regard to them.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #603 on: April 16, 2018, 10:38:05 AM »
everything Comey and now his wife say is to expultate themselves with the Left.

no mention of how he *corruptly* lets Hillary off the hook from crimes she committed by his present book tour by him, his wife, or the MSM :

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/04/15/comey-wife-wanted-woman-president-really-badly-supported-hillary-clinton/

he is corrupt  he was obviously  in cahoots with Lynch and Obama to let Hillary off.  End of story

He has gotten everything wrong so far and his bias is showing.  He even admitted political calculations came into his decision making.

I heard a minute of liberal radio today.  Comey never should have said Hillary was careless if there was no crime.  She only had like 3 emails with a little 'c' on them.  And where was the intent?  Ummm, there were crimes, it wasn't like 3 emails, there was no investigation into intent and intent is not part of the statute.

The panel on Meet the Press all agreed Trump would soon be impeached, but could not, did not still point to a single point of collusion with Russia or crime he committed in conjunction with the slimey attorney. He is presumed guilty, right on the most prestigious of mainstream shows. They may be right and Trump might be just about to fall but if so it will be for a misdeed that none of us know about yet.

Back to Comey, I notice with my rental applicants that good liars sound just like honest people until later when discrepancies begin to come to light.  Then you can go back and recognize more and more lies.  Comey had a long career and presented himself well and then ... well now he has been reduced to gossip column relevance, reporting on tan lines, hand size and opinions about moral issues no more or less valid than anyone else's.  Meanwhile Trump started as a perceived lightweight on the big stage but is now holding NK, China, Assad and Russia accountable, Iran next, and has turned around the US economy and the Supreme Court.

So far it looks like the deplorables got it right.


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Gulliani now on Trumps team
« Reply #608 on: April 19, 2018, 05:12:31 PM »
I am not sure how he can possibly negotiate this when Mueller et al thinks REMOVING Trump by any means if "for the good of the country" but nonetheless:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/19/rudy-giuliani-joins-trump-legal-team-i-have-high-regard-for-the-president-and-for-bob-mueller/

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Re: Giuliani now on Trump's team
« Reply #609 on: April 20, 2018, 08:06:56 AM »
I am not sure how he can possibly negotiate this when Mueller et al thinks REMOVING Trump by any means if "for the good of the country" but nonetheless:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/19/rudy-giuliani-joins-trump-legal-team-i-have-high-regard-for-the-president-and-for-bob-mueller/

The Giulliani appointment is interesting.  Yes, it's time to wrap up the Mueller investigation if no Trump-Russia collusion occurred and it apparently didn't.  Trump through Rudy can put public pressure on Mueller to release his report which he ought to be doing anyway. 

As Andrew McCarthy, also from the SDNY office, is guessing, the NY referral is no small legal matter.  Speculating that it is mostly Cohen in trouble and less significantly Trump, and Trump is guilty of a few shenanigans but not high crimes, Trump will need the best public face for a lawyer to make that case and finesse this fiasco to a conclusion.

NOT in the evidence, I predict, is anything that indicates Trump or Cohen sent a guy to a parking lot to scare 'Stormy' and her daughter.  And if Cohen didn't do it, no one did.  Otherwise what you have with her story is a questionable accusation of a 'campaign contribution' on 1/20th of a scale of what Obama 2008 admitted to.  That could be a 25-30k fine, not a high crime, even if Trump knew about it.

The statute of Limitations for most money crimes in NY is 3 years, 2 1/2 of which he has been a candidate for President or President.  Going through a lifetime of shady business dealings is not their job.  They need something recent, specific and provable and maybe they will find one or two things.

The worst of the accusations we know of so far I think are all false.  Prostitutes peeing on each other for hire by Trump in front of Trump because a bed in a hotel in Moscow because the Obamas once slept in it and they are black and half black is absurd on so many levels.  That is right out of a Dem playbook in the first place that Trump picked on Obama out of racism and that he is a pervert rather than a sex hound.  Trump's interests are simpler and than that.  He doesn't hate blacks; he is interested money, power, ego and putting his penis into the vagina of beautiful women, probably more for the ego than sexual pleasure. There are plenty of ex-wives and mistresses including Stormy and McDougal out there with public stories to verify his bedroom interest.  The urination interest sounds more like entertainment for people who don't or can't have sex.  The whole dossier is made suspect by its most salacious and least credible part.

Stormy-Stephanie alleges one incident of consensual infidelity with a man known for infidelity, a crime against Melania but not a punishable crime.  She said she was not a victim, before adding the roughing up part later to give the story legs.  The artist's sketch looks like her own lawyer did it.  She can't prove the sex much less the rough up.  It's clearly designed to elevate her public status in her field which it did and to give the derangement crowd something to cling to.  Without the rough up accusation, it doesn't get the prime time attention.

The McDougal affair, if true, means this man is a marital cheater.  Disgusting, but we already knew that.  Not recent and not a high crime.  It makes her look like low-life too, knowing about Melania and the newborn.  This is a hooker and a stripper making mild accusations, though men hold a Playmate of the Year on a higher pedestal than that.  To the extent that men do, they are envious of Trump, not disgusted.  What irked McDougal was that they were going to publish serious articles of hers and didn't; now they have an agreement to do that. She will fade into the background shortly as she shifts her own focus to her health column career.  Will probably advise young women not to sleep with old, married, rich men.

The Manafort crime is not tied to the Trump campaign or Presidency.  The Flynn 'crime' will most likely will be dropped, or pardoned, and didn't involve anything nefarious with Trump.

Most importantly, none of it has anything to do with what was originally alleged and ordered to be investigated.  The one tie was a bonehead public statement made by Trump, 'Russia, I hope you can find and release Hillary's emails that she is hiding from Congress and prosecutors.'  That public statement is not what a man guilty of collusion behind the scenes says.  It means further that Trump didn't even know wikileaks wasn't getting its hacks from Russia.

This was a very bizarre, shiny object chapter in American history.  Proof that the intelligence community doesn't want scrutiny and that Democrats don't want a straight up debate on the issues.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #610 on: April 20, 2018, 08:34:56 AM »
NOw the NY bar is going after Kushner in their effort to destroy Trump every way they can dream of.

Like criminals who lay awake nights dreaming of how to steal money and scams and cons , the Dems are dreaming of every way imaginable

If claims against Crafty's favorite person (Jar[h]ed) are true then he  may well be the crook his old man is .

I would  certainly not be  surprised.

And what could be expected when you got this guy running billion dollar company at same time he is wheeling and dealing in government?
That is asking for trouble.  Dems are frothing like starving wolves.




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The Comey dumpster fire intensifies.
« Reply #611 on: April 21, 2018, 10:06:55 AM »
http://coldfury.com/2018/04/21/final-nails/

Burn baby

 Posted on 4/21/2018      by Mike
The Comey dumpster fire intensifies.

Comey’s Memos Indicate Dossier Briefing Of Trump Was A Setup
Newly released memos written by former FBI director James Comey indicate that an early 2017 briefing for then-President-elect Donald Trump about the contents of an infamous dossier was held so it could be leaked to media outlets eager to report on the dossier’s allegations. In multiple memos, Comey specifically mentioned that CNN had the dossier and wanted a “news hook” that would enable the network to report on its most salacious allegations even though they had not been verified.

“I said the Russians allegedly had tapes involving him and prostitutes at the Presidential Suite at the Ritz Carlton in Moscow from about 2013,” Comey wrote of his conversation with Trump in a classified memo that was released in redacted form late Thursday. “I said I wasn’t saying this was true, only that I wanted him to know both that it had been reported and that the reports were in many hands.”

No media organizations had reported the allegations at the time Comey briefed Trump.

“I said media like CNN had them and were looking for a news hook,” Comey added in his memo about the briefing with Trump on January 6, 2017.

With which Comey, via the maskirovka of his meticulously incomplete, manipulative briefing of Trump, was was only too happy to provide them.

It just so happens that the existence of the very briefing he cooked up with Clapper and Brennan was leaked to CNN within a few days, providing them with the very “news hook” Comey told Trump CNN was looking for.

And… oh right, the House Intelligence Committee report says that Clapper gave “inconsistent” answers regarding his contacts in this time frame with, get this, CNN.

Oh, I’m sure it was all just a coincidence and not any kind of deliberately-set trap for Trump or anything. I mean, come on; Comey is an honest guy, a man of integrity and principle. He’s been saying so endlessly this past week, to everybody within reach, so it has to be true. If you don’t believe it, just ask him; you ought to be able to approach him easily enough to pose the question, given the attendance at his book-tour appearances so far. He’s just sitting around on his little stool all by himself getting his picture taken, pretty much. If you can get through the fawning libmedia scrum, you’re good to go.

Things are going to get pretty hot for Comey from here on out. He’s looking more and more like the key to unraveling the whole conspiracy. The Left is beginning to get serious about throwing him under the bus now, which hints at his imminent scapegoat status pretty broadly: note how eager libmedia is to get Comey’s “lifelong Republican” Congressional-testimony remarks out there, and expand on them. That there is a tell, folks. They’re trying to disassociate the Democrat Socialists, especially his co-conspirators Obama and Hillary!™, from him as preamble to hanging him out to dry.

If you’re calculating the odds on whether the treasonous higher-ups who conspired to rig and then overturn an American presidential election will ever face justice for their high crimes, pay attention to what happens with Comey. If the DoJ takes the criminal referral seriously and honestly follows through on it, Comey will almost certainly be among the first to stand trial. At that point, one of two things happens: either Comey decides to save his own bacon, stops lying, goes rat, and spills his guts under oath, or he decides to play out his fantasy of being a latter-day G Gordon Liddy, fulfilling his self-proclaimed destiny to Save Democracy! by nobly taking one for the team.

Hard to say which he’ll do, honestly. He (mis)represents himself as a heroic defender of truth, justice, and the American Way, despite seeing nothing wrong with subverting not just one but several American institutions, as well as putting paid to any remaining faith in the integrity of our election system and revealing participatory democracy and self-government to be a sham. If his belief in his fantasies is strong enough, it could conceivably steel him to do what he so hazily sees as his duty, clam up to protect the big wheels, and face what he no doubt will consider a travesty of justice, a persecution by Enemies of the State, on his own.

Then again, Comey is a pissant, a poor excuse for a man, and no kind of patriot regarding anything the Founders would recognize as righteous government. The prospect of doing time would have to frighten a cowardly Deep State weasel like him half out of his wits. Being long accustomed to the protection of the federal tyranny—to hiding his lawless skullduggery behind the scrim of a sprawling, faceless, untouchable bureacracy ever loyal to its own—and then seeing that protection suddenly removed is likely to motivate such a “man” to start looking out for Numero Uno (as if that wasn’t what he’s been doing his entire career) and make some kind of deal to cooperate that keeps him from being put behind bars, or at least getting his hair mussed and his manicure ruined by doing serious time in a real prison.

In either of those cases, Deep State blood is likely to spill—the puddle of gore spread much wider and deeper by the former scenario than the latter—and Comey himself will be duly wrecked. Thereby will justice be served in at least some measure, although the former scenario won’t make for a very satisfying meal.

On the other hand, if the DoJ softpedals its investigation, setting up more endless hearings designed to bog down in pedantry and speechifying long enough for public interest to fade so they can announce sotto very damned voce the foregone inconclusive verdict of “Eh, Whatever” before turning the whole kit and kaboodle loose with nothing worse than an opprobius look and a shrug, we’ll know that the capos of the Deep State truly are invulnerable, that they are de facto immune from justice no matter how clear-cut and heinous their crimes, that the votes supposed to give voice to the will of normal Americans matter not a whit…and that our system of government is in fact rotten beyond all hope of repair.

Or they could also lead lesser vermin like, say, McCabe, Stroke/Page, or maybe even Brennan to slaughter as token sacrifical offerings, providing Big King Rats like Obama, Hillary!™, and Lynch a gaping hole in the rule of law to squirm through and scurry away before anyone notices. Lady Justice is pretty easy to gyp in America that way, what with her blindfold and all.

Which is when it gets to be just about time to start shooting the bastards.

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Deep State
« Reply #612 on: April 21, 2018, 02:18:12 PM »

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #613 on: April 21, 2018, 08:18:32 PM »
one can only imagine the who knows how many sex partners have been paid off over the years from famous, wealthy or otherwise political figures.

who in their right mind would not think it is common

From Schwarzenegger, to Travolta, to Menendez, to Eric Schmidt and enough others probably so many to list to run out of space on a computer with 2 gigs.


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Joe DiGenova : politicization of the FBI (Hillsdale)
« Reply #614 on: April 23, 2018, 04:12:31 AM »
After reading this is is really impossible not to see how all the dots connect implicating the notorious characters in a fix for the Hill and a plot to bring Trump down:

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-politicization-of-the-fbi/

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Andrew McCarthy: Comey confims the fix was in
« Reply #615 on: April 28, 2018, 10:33:10 AM »
If you ask me McCarthy, James Comey's friend of 30 yrs cuts him way too much slack.
Oh, his leaks were wrong but not criminal........  What is the use of having laws if there are always ways for clever lawyers to get around them?

article states once again Comey confirmed what ayd rational and savvy conservative knew all along - the FIX was in for Clinton.  Rush said what we all knew - virtually no way was Obamster and his mob going to enforce the law against Hillary



https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/comey-confirms-in-clinton-emails-caper-the-fix-was-in/
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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #616 on: April 28, 2018, 08:43:39 PM »
Respect for McCarthy's candor about the conflicting forces of friendship and analysis for him.

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James Come alias
« Reply #617 on: April 29, 2018, 10:36:33 AM »
DT tweet this :

Comey's new nick name :

"slick Jimmy"

 :-D


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Carter Page claimed being an advisor to the Russians
« Reply #618 on: April 29, 2018, 01:04:19 PM »
Worth noting.

http://time.com/5132126/carter-page-russia-2013-letter/

PS:  That McCarthy article, as with pretty much everything he writes, is quite good.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #619 on: April 29, 2018, 05:36:02 PM »
That doesn't mean he doesn't cut Comey too much slack  here.

Comey was part of a high level fix , plain and simple.  He thought Clinton would win so he played ball - dishonestly.

If McCarthy doesn't want to just say it it fine but  doesn't change the truth. 
I don't want to hear about his personal ambivalent feelings about it through half the article.







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I am going to go with yes
« Reply #621 on: May 01, 2018, 02:18:55 PM »
https://pjmedia.com/trending/is-comey-lying-about-what-he-told-the-house-intel-committee-in-march-2017/

Is Comey Lying About What He Told the House Intel Committee in March 2017?
 BY DEBRA HEINE APRIL 30, 2018 CHAT 89 COMMENTS
FBI Director James Comey speaks to the Intelligence and National Security Alliance Leadership Dinner in Alexandria, Va.
FBI Director James Comey (AP Photo/Cliff Owen)

Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee are not happy that the intelligence community blacked out a crucial portion of fired FBI director James Comey's words in their recently released report on Russia interference in the 2016 election. Lawmakers hope the issue gets resolved soon because Comey has been denying in interview after interview what he purportedly said in the redacted portion of the transcript.

The quotes in question allegedly concern fired national security adviser Michael Flynn, who was interviewed by two FBI agents at the White House in January of 2017.  Republicans say that when Comey went to Capitol Hill that March to brief lawmakers on the Russia investigation, he told them that the agents who questioned Flynn did not believe he had lied and that any inaccuracies were unintentional.

Lawmakers reportedly left the briefing with "the impression that Flynn would not be charged with lying to the FBI," according to the Washington Examiner's Byron York. Former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe allegedly told lawmakers the same thing -- that Flynn didn't lie  -- which is why so many people were shocked in November of 2017, when Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.

For whatever reason, the intel community redacted both McCabe's and Comey's quotes regarding Flynn in the HPSCI's final Russia report.

Comey, meanwhile, has been on his publicity tour to promote his book, A Higher Loyalty, and has been denying that he told the House Intelligence Committee what Republican sources say he said.

Most recently, "Meet the Press" host Chuck Todd pressed Comey on the question Sunday morning on NBC.

"In the Washington Examiner, they report that, according to sources familiar with meetings that you had, that you told lawmakers when you were still director of the FBI that FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them or that any inaccuracies in his answers were intentional,"  Todd said to Comey. "If that's the case, what did he plead guilty to?"

"Yes, an example of how you can't believe everything you read in the media," Comey said.

"This is not true?" Todd asked.

"Not true," said Comey. "And I don't know what people heard me say, if they're reporting it accurately, what they heard me say, they misunderstood. But that's not accurate."

Comey said the same thing in an interview with Fox News' Bret Baier last week.

"Did you tell lawmakers that FBI agents didn't believe former national security adviser Michael Flynn was lying intentionally to investigators?" asked Baier.

"No," said Comey.

"You did not—" said Baier.

"And I saw that in the media," Comey said. "I don't know what — maybe someone misunderstood something I said. I didn't believe that and didn't say that."

And in Comey's first interview two weeks ago, ABC's George Stephanopoulos said, "There's been some reporting that at one point you told the Congress that the agents who interviewed Mike Flynn didn't believe that he had lied."

"Yeah, I saw that," said Comey. "And that — I don't know where that's coming from. That — unless I'm — I said something that people misunderstood, I don't remember even intending to say that. So my recollection is I never said that to anybody."

Comey's recollection is not going to square with the transcript, Republicans say.

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) told Fox News' Tucker Carlson that the transcript of Comey's briefing  shows him telling lawmakers that the FBI agents thought Flynn was telling the truth.

"Director Comey's recollection is flawed," Gowdy said. "If he does not remember telling Congress that his agents told him they didn't think Flynn was lying, then he needs to get his lawyers to go back and look at the transcript. We did not mishear. Maybe he misspoke, but that's in the transcript."


HPSCI Chairman Devin Nunes complained about the redactions after the report was issued and vowed to fight for an unredacted version: "We object to the excessive and unjustified number of redactions, many of which do not relate to classified information," Nunes said in a statement . "The committee will convey our objections to the appropriate agencies and looks forward to publishing a less redacted version in the near future."

House Intel spokesman Jack Langer pointed out that the intelligence community quickly removed redactions from the House Intel Democrats' counter-report.

 "The Democrats got all the redactions on their minority views lifted within a day," Langer said Sunday evening, "while we're still struggling to get our concerns addressed."

The conflict is a stark one, and leads one to wonder -- what was it about McCabe and Comey's testimony that the intel community considered classified, anyway?

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #622 on: May 01, 2018, 03:30:19 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-team-leaked-mueller-apos-131407252.html

Larry tribe knows who leaked and it was from Trump's lawyers
So because they know which "team" it was from because of the way the questions are worded?
IF true more likely it was the NYT leaking the leaker .

Besides since when is leaking such an outrage all of a sudden?



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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #623 on: May 01, 2018, 07:44:52 PM »
a) FWIW my sense of things is that the leak was by Team Trump;

b) IMHO once again Trump undercuts his own credibility;

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #624 on: May 01, 2018, 07:47:18 PM »
a) FWIW my sense of things is that the leak was by Team Trump;

b) IMHO once again Trump undercuts his own credibility;


How does this undercut Trump's credibility?

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #625 on: May 02, 2018, 04:52:22 AM »
"FWIW my sense of things is that the leak was by Team Trump;"

Explain CD .  Why do you come to that conclusiion?

why because CNN et al say that it is ?

all we know is it was "reportedly" written in a way that looks as though a lawyer did not do it.

How come every leaker in the human race is protected by LeftMSM EXCEPT when it is in their convenience to blame someone on the RIGHT or TRUMP?

Why was this leaker not protected?  Even if it was Trump's team it doesn't mean Trump was behind it. It was NEVER and issue having every leak come from the WH for this whole time when it was about embarrassing Trump (and presumably from his "team)  but now that it makes the Mule team look bad then suddenly this is a big issue and must be blamed on Trump. 

Why should we trust them ?


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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #626 on: May 02, 2018, 08:19:14 AM »
Alternate theory:  Trump's lawyers are trying to wake him the fk up as to the dangers of sitting down with Comey.

Alternate theory:  Trump's lawyers are looking to prepare public opinion for impending legal arguments that Comey overreaches;

Alternate theory:  Per two Office of Legal Council opinions, one under Bush 43 and one under Obama, under the Constitution the President cannot be prosecuted because the C. specifies impeachment as the remedy

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #627 on: May 02, 2018, 08:48:31 AM »

CD,

some good thoughts above

This absolute partisan hit mob run by Mueller (Comey' good friend ), CNN and the DC lawyers  is making my want to vote even more this NOv.
Hope other Repubs come to the same opinions.

If some never Trump repubs think and impeachment after some sort of indictment from a Mueller grand jury is going to be good for Repubs - I beg to differ




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WaPo: Mueller playing hardball
« Reply #628 on: May 02, 2018, 09:29:52 AM »

Robert Mueller and Co. are playing hardball
by Aaron Blake May 2 at 8:08 AM Email the author
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Trump is a 'subject' of Mueller's probe. Here's what that means.

Special counsel Robert Mueller told the president's lawyers that Trump's a subject in his probe, not a target. The Post's Carol Leonnig explains the difference. (Jenny Starrs/The Washington Post)

President Trump and his allies in the House have done just about anything they can to undermine Robert S. Mueller III's investigation and intimidate its leaders. They've questioned the Mueller team's neutrality. They've wrongly suggested the investigation was launched based on the Steele dossier or the leaking of classified information. They've attacked the FISA court process. James B. Comey was fired. Andrew McCabe was targeted and later fired. And there have been threats to get rid of basically everyone else in charge of it, including most recently Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein.

Mueller, it seems, isn't cowed. Neither, for that matter, is Rosenstein.

The Washington Post's Carol D. Leonnig and Robert Costa broke a big story Tuesday night, reporting that Mueller at one point threatened to subpoena Trump if he wouldn't voluntarily sit for an interview. Here's the scene:

    ... Mueller responded that he had another option if Trump declined: He could issue a subpoena for the president to appear before a grand jury, according to four people familiar with the encounter.

    Mueller’s warning — the first time he is known to have mentioned a possible subpoena to Trump’s legal team — spurred a sharp retort from John Dowd, then the president’s lead lawyer.

    “This isn’t some game,” Dowd said, according to two people with knowledge of his comments. “You are screwing with the work of the president of the United States.”

    The flare-up set in motion weeks of turmoil among Trump’s attorneys as they debated how to deal with the special counsel’s request for an interview, a dispute that ultimately led to Dowd’s resignation.

Presidents have faced subpoenas before, but the mere threat of one ratchets up the confrontation between Mueller's and Trump's teams. Trump could also fight the subpoena or even plead the Fifth Amendment, though that may come with political costs.

That conversation, notably, came a few weeks before Trump's lawyer/fixer Michael Cohen had his office raided on a referral from Mueller's investigation — a highly unusual move. The raid once again had Trump claiming the Mueller probe is one big violation. When combined with the show-of-force raid on Paul Manafort, the subpoena of the Trump Organization and the number of guilty pleas Mueller's team has obtained for lying to investigators, it suggests Mueller isn't exactly being shy about using his authority to locate the skeletons.

The same could be said of Rosenstein, who appointed Mueller and oversees the investigation. After news broke Monday night of an effort by conservative House Republicans to draft impeachment papers against Rosenstein, just in case they're needed, he issued a striking rebuke for a top Justice Department official. He first noted that “nobody has the courage to put their name on” the impeachment document and poked at its authors for leaking word of their efforts.

Then came this: “I think they should understand by now that the Department of Justice is not going to be extorted,” Rosenstein said. “We’re going to do what’s required by the rule of law, and any kind of threats that anybody makes are not going to affect the way we do our job.”
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“Extorted.” The guy who is in charge of the scope of the Russia investigation just accused House Republicans of attempted extortion.

And he's not totally out of line. Intimidation has suited Trump well, in general. It certainly worked in the business world, and it has also worked well in the political world, where Republicans have repeatedly rebuked Trump and distanced themselves from him only to come to regret it. Trump's power with the base makes running afoul of him a very dicey proposition — so much so that Republicans rarely even try anymore. The mere threat of a presidential tweet is enough, in many cases.

It's not difficult to understand why Trump and his allies would try this tactic on their investigators, too. If you know that an adverse finding about Trump will come with a personal cost and with 35 percent of the country thinking you are a rogue prosecutor trying to take down a president with trumped-up charges, that could feasibly affect your conclusions, even subconsciously.

[The number of people who say the Mueller investigation should continue is shrinking]

Law enforcement officials, though, are trained to be studiously neutral and to resist such pressure, and they have fewer personal political concerns than do members of Congress. Yes, they still have their personal lives and legacies to consider, including whether they handled this investigation fairly with the stakes being so high. But their jobs are less inherently political and, as James B. Comey showed, rising to the top ranks often rewards cocksureness (sometimes too much of it).

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #629 on: May 02, 2018, 09:33:20 AM »
Mueller is corrupt and should be the one facing a grand jury.

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Alan Dershowitz: Maybe Mueller should be investigated
« Reply #630 on: May 02, 2018, 10:34:49 AM »
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/alan-dershowitz-maybe-robert-mueller-should-be-investigated

Alan Dershowitz: Maybe Mueller should be investigated
by Alan Dershowitz
 | April 23, 2018 04:33 PM
 

Just as the first casualty of war is truth, so, too, the first casualty of hyperpartisan politics is civil liberties.

Many traditional civil libertarians have allowed their strong anti-Trump sentiments to erase their long-standing commitment to neutral civil liberties. They are now so desperate to get President Trump that they are prepared to compromise the most basic due process rights. They forget the lesson of history that such compromises made against one’s enemy are often used as precedents against one’s friends. As Robert Bolt put it in the play and movie "A Man for all Seasons":

Roper: So now you would give the Devil benefit of Law!

 
Thomas More: Yes, what would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

Roper: I’d cut down every law in England to do that!

Thomas More: And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast — man's laws, not God's — and if you cut them down — and you're just the man to do it — d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.

But today’s fair weather civil libertarians are unwilling to give Trump — who they regard as the devil — the “benefit of law” and civil liberties.

Consider the issue of criticizing Robert Mueller, the special counsel. Any criticism or even skepticism regarding Mueller’s history is seen as motivated by a desire to help Trump. Mueller was an assistant U.S. attorney in Boston, the head of its criminal division, the head of the criminal division in Main Justice, and the director of the FBI during the most scandalous miscarriage of justice in the modern history of the FBI. Four innocent people were framed by the FBI to protect mass murdering gangsters who were working as FBI informers while they were killing innocent people. An FBI agent, who is now in prison, was tipping off Whitey Bulger as to who might testify against him so that these individuals could be killed. He also tipped off Bulger, allowing him to escape and remain on the lam for 16 years.

What responsibility, if any, did Mueller, who was in key positions of authority and capable of preventing these horrible miscarriages, have in this sordid incident? A former member of the parole board — a liberal Democrat who also served as mayor of Springfield, Mass. — swears he saw a letter from Mueller urging the denial of release for at least one of these wrongfully convicted defendants. When he went back to retrieve the letter, it was not in the file. This should surprise no one since Judge Mark Wolf (himself a former prosecutor), who conducted extensive hearings about this entire mess, made the following findings:

The files relating to the Wheeler murder, and the FBI's handling of them, exemplify recurring irregularities with regard to the preparation, maintenance, and production in this case of documents damaging to Flemmi and Bulger. First, there appears to be a pattern of false statements placed in Flemmi's informant file to divert attention from his possible crimes and/or FBI misconduct….
Second, contrary to the FBI's usual policy and practice, all but one of the reports containing Halloran's allegations against Bulger and Flemmi were not indexed and placed in an investigative file referencing their names. Thus, those documents were not discoverable by a standard search of the FBI's indices. Similar irregularities in indexing and, therefore, access occurred with regard to information that the FBI received concerning an extortion by Bulger of Hobart Willis and from Joseph Murray concerning the murder of Brian Halloran, among other things.
Third, when documents damaging to the FBI were found by the Bureau, they were in some instances not produced to the defendants or the court at the time required by the court's Orders.
Wolf also made a finding that directly references Mueller’s state of knowledge regarding the “history”:

“The source also claimed to have information that Bulger and Pat Nee had murdered Halloran and Bucky Barrett. The source subsequently said that there was an eyewitness to the Halloran shooting who might come forward, and elaborated that: 'there is a person named John, who claims he talked to Whitey and Nee as they sat in the car waiting for Halloran on Northern Avenue. He sits in a bar and talks about it. He saw the whole operation.” The source added that the person providing the information to the source “will be willing to talk to you (authorities) soon.” On Feb. 3, 1988, Weld directed Keeney to have the information that he had received sent to the United States Attorney in Boston, Frank McNamara, and to the strike force chief, O'Sullivan. Weld added that: “Both O'Sullivan and [Assistant United States Attorney] Bob Mueller are well aware of the history, and the information sounds good.”

It is not beyond the realm of possibility therefore that Mueller wrote this letter, even if it is no longer in the files. If in fact Mueller wrote such a letter, without thoroughly investigating the circumstances, he surely bears some responsibility. Moreover, it is widely believed among Boston law enforcement observers the FBI was not really looking for Bulger during the years Mueller was its director. It is believed the FBI was fearful about what Bulger would disclose about his relationship with agents over the years. It took a member of the U.S. Marshall’s office to find Bulger, who was hiding in plain view in Santa Monica, Calif.

Recently, a former federal judge, who used to be a civil libertarian, rushed to Mueller’s defense, declaring “without equivocation” Mueller “had no involvement” in the massive miscarriage of justice. Her evidence is the lack of evidence in the files. But no civil libertarian should place such great trust in government files, especially in light of Wolf’s findings. They should join my call for an objective investigation by the inspector general of the Justice Department before they assure the public “without equivocation” Mueller had absolutely “no involvement.”

But these “Get Trump At Any Cost” partisans have rejected my call for an investigation, out of fear that it may turn up information that might tarnish the image of the special counsel who is investigating Trump. Instead they criticize those of us who point out Mueller was “at the center” of the Justice Department and FBI while this miscarriage of justice occurred. All civil libertarians should want the truth about this sordid episode, and Mueller’s possible role in it, regardless of its impact, if any, on the Trump investigation. Mueller should welcome an objective investigation, which might eliminate any doubt about his role in this travesty. But too many former civil libertarians are prepared to sacrifice civil liberties and the quest for truth on the altar of “Get Trump.”

This is all too typical of the about-face many civil libertarians have taken since Trump became president. I have previously written about the ACLU’s abdication of its traditional role in challenging governmental overreach. For the new ACLU, getting Trump trumps civil liberties.

It is ironic to see many right-wingers being the ones to criticize overreach by law enforcement, while many left-wingers now defend such overreaching. Hypocrisy and selective outrage abounds, as neutral principles take a back seat. Conservatives used to say “a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged.” I would respond that “a liberal is a conservative who is being audited or whose kid was busted for pot.” Today, a civil libertarian is a conservative whose candidate is being investigated, while a law-and-order type is a liberal who wants to see Trump charged or impeached.

I am a liberal who voted against Trump, but who insists that his civil liberties must be respected for all of our sake.

Alan Dershowitz ( @AlanDersh ) is a contributor to the Washington Examiner's Beltway Confidential blog. He is the Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law, Emeritus, at Harvard Law School and author of Trumped up! How Criminalizing Politics is Dangerous to Democracy.


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Motivation!
« Reply #632 on: May 04, 2018, 11:06:20 AM »

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #635 on: May 06, 2018, 07:09:52 AM »
IF one believes the theory of "six degrees " of separation of the world's population

then by 2019 Mueller should be interviewing me and everyone on this board
Those on Huffpost will be spared.


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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #636 on: May 06, 2018, 10:38:35 AM »
IF one believes the theory of "six degrees " of separation of the world's population

then by 2019 Mueller should be interviewing me and everyone on this board
Those on Huffpost will be spared.

Analysts on both sides seem to agree that if there was no conspiracy-collusion with Russia case, then there was no obstruction to cover up what didn't happen. The Stormy thing leads us where?  He lied about sex?  Maybe and we'll never really know the beneath sheets parts.  Is there a blue dress?  Consensual sex by a man who cheated on each of his wives.  Yes it's ugly, slimy, but it's already measured in to his support ceiling and disapproval floor.  Campaign contribution?  That's a reach, and not a high crime.  I would agree on appearances that 130k sounds more like an annoyance payment than payment to silence a real threat of taking down a multi-billionaire.  Trump lied about the payment?  We really don't know that but again, already factored in.  People are quickly getting tired of hearing about it.  The whole distraction is very long media story that still has no evidence of a crime, and trump isn't on the ballot anyway.  Tax cuts, Korea summit, tariff war, lots of other things going on out there.

A former liberal, now independent said to me yesterday, I like the policies, not the person.  To that I say, good enough.  Me too.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #637 on: May 06, 2018, 10:43:43 AM »
" A former liberal, now independent said to me yesterday, I like the policies, not the person.  To that I say, good enough.  Me too."

I am intrigued

did you get him to change his views?

how does a "liberal "  evolve into someone who likes Trump's policies?

If only more common..........

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« Reply #638 on: May 06, 2018, 08:59:44 PM »
I suspect more common than you might think , , ,


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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #640 on: May 07, 2018, 08:39:01 AM »
"did you get him to change his views?
how does a "liberal "  evolve into someone who likes Trump's policies?"

It's a 'her' and I just withhold sex when she supports the Bernie-type stuff.  A little more seriously, as we try to find common ground on issues, she is finding it easier to change her mind than mine. 

In the 2016 election, no matter how open minded she was on issues, she could not vote someone of his character.   So I laid out the Hillary scandal stuff and she voted for neither.  After a half year of dating, we were half way there, from Bernie supporter to independent voter.  The connection between Bernie Sanders policies and Venezuela failure also resonated.  How can any honest leftist explain that any way but failure.  She answered [of liberalism], "maybe they went too far".  Agreed.  Maybe we did too.

Being an honest liberal is an unstable position.  She sees the inner city stuff that I work with and the argument about how our welfare state destroys their families and choices resonates.   And that our tax system chases away the good.

In the context of this thread, it is hard to watch the Mueller-Russia thing and not see the glaring double standard in investigations and media coverage.  Still no evidence of collusion and the investigations go on.  Yesterday morning, we have the Korea summit, Israel Iran war, China militarizing the South China Sea, lowest unemployment rate in decades and [regarding climate change our own lake had its latest "ice-out" date in recorded history yesterday, and Fox News Sunday led with Stormy Daniels and Mueller.  Again, you can't be an honest liberal or anything else and not see it.

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« Reply #641 on: May 07, 2018, 10:19:48 AM »
Doug wrote :   "  I just withhold sex when she supports the Bernie-type stuff.  "

Bravo!!!!!  But not surprising from an extreme skier and tennis champ.    :-D 

Rush would get a big kick out of that and market your discovery  that Conservatives should withhold sex from any Liberal who refuses to be open minded and objective to other points of view.

Seriously , if only most libs would be open to other viewpoints.  CD says I would be surprised . 
And if that is the case the what Tim Scot said on a morning Fox show this AM about Repubs in the House being tough and smart but lacking in messaging may be right on the money.

Doug wrote:

" it is hard to watch the Mueller-Russia thing and not see the glaring double standard in investigations and media coverage."

I am noticing some defensive posturing from the libs the past week about the probe.  Lib from POTOH on CNN or LSD this AM saying how the media is too much sucked in by Trump and focusing on him rather then the "important" issues when they get bogged on tweets, Stephanie Clifford, Russia etc.
CNN pointed out at least 3 times in span of few minutes that the Judge who questioned Mueller's motives in the Manafort case is a  "Reagan appointee".   As well as more and more statements about Muller being a "registered Republican"   .

When have we ever heard them point out a Judge being the One's or Bills' appointee?  I don't recall ever hearing that.
I think you and GM have pointed out the Left's methods will back fire.  We may be seeing the early signs of this. 


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POTH: Firm tied to Russian Oligarch made payments to Michael Cohen
« Reply #642 on: May 08, 2018, 06:59:44 PM »
Firm Tied to Russian Oligarch Made Payments to Michael Cohen
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Michael D. Cohen, President Trump’s lawyer and fixer. His shell company received payments from a firm linked to a Russian oligarch, as well as corporations with business before the Trump administration.CreditBrendan Mcdermid/Reuters

By Mike McIntire, Ben Protess and Jim Rutenberg
May 8, 2018

A shell company that Michael D. Cohen used to pay hush money to a pornographic film actress received payments totaling more than $1 million from an American company linked to a Russian oligarch and several corporations with business before the Trump administration, according to documents and interviews.

Financial records reviewed by The New York Times show that Mr. Cohen, President Trump’s personal lawyer and longtime fixer, used the shell company, Essential Consultants L.L.C., for an array of business activities that went far beyond what was publicly known. Transactions adding up to at least $4.4 million flowed through Essential Consultants starting shortly before Mr. Trump was elected president and continuing to this January, the records show.

Among the previously unreported transactions were payments last year of about $500,000 from Columbus Nova, an investment firm in New York whose biggest client is a company controlled by Viktor Vekselberg, the Russian oligarch. A lawyer for Columbus Nova, in a statement on Tuesday, described the money as a consulting fee that had nothing to do with Mr. Vekselberg.

Other transactions described in the financial records include hundreds of thousands of dollars Mr. Cohen received from Fortune 500 firms with business before the Trump administration, as well as smaller amounts he paid for luxury expenses like a Mercedes-Benz and private club dues.


References to the transactions first appeared in a document posted to Twitter on Tuesday by Michael Avenatti, the lawyer for Stephanie Clifford, the adult film star who was paid $130,000 by Essential Consultants to keep quiet about an alleged affair with Mr. Trump. The lawyer’s seven-page document, titled “Preliminary Report of Findings,” does not explain the source of his information but describes in detail dates, dollar amounts and parties involved in various dealings by Mr. Cohen and his company. Most of the transactions involved two banks: First Republic Bank and City National Bank.

The Times’s review of financial records confirmed much of what was in Mr. Avenatti’s report. In addition, a review of documents and interviews shed additional light on Mr. Cohen’s dealings with the company connected to Mr. Vekselberg, who was stopped and questioned at an airport earlier this year by investigators for Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel examining Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

Taken together, the Times’s findings and Mr. Avenatti’s report offer the most detailed picture yet on Mr. Cohen’s business dealings and financial entanglements in the run-up to the election and its aftermath. Federal prosecutors in Manhattan are investigating Mr. Cohen for possible bank fraud and election-law violations, among other matters, according to people briefed on the investigation. Stephen Ryan, a lawyer representing Mr. Cohen, declined to comment.


Ms. Clifford, whose stage name is Stormy Daniels, is suing Mr. Cohen and Mr. Trump to break her nondisclosure agreement related to the $130,000.

It is unclear whether that or any of the other transactions were improper, but Mr. Avenatti has asserted that Mr. Cohen’s use of Essential Consultants potentially violated banking laws. The financial records indicate that at least some of the money that passed through Essential Consultants was from sources and in amounts that were inconsistent with the company’s stated purpose.


Mr. Cohen also used the company to collect $250,000 after arranging payments in 2017 and 2018 by a major Republican donor, Elliott Broidy, to a former Playboy model he allegedly impregnated, according to news reports last month.

Among the other payments to Mr. Cohen’s company described in the financial records were four for $99,980 each between October and January by Novartis Investments S.A.R.L., a subsidiary of Novartis, the multinational pharmaceutical giant based in Switzerland. Novartis — whose chief executive was among 15 business leaders invited to dinner with Mr. Trump at the World Economic Forum in January — spent more than $10 million on lobbying in Washington last year and frequently seeks approvals from federal drug regulators. Novartis said in a statement that its agreement with Essential Consultants had expired.

In addition, Korea Aerospace Industries paid Mr. Cohen’s company $150,000 last November, according to the records. The company, an aircraft manufacturer, has partnered with the American defense contractor Lockheed Martin in competing for a multibillion-dollar contract to provide trainer jets for the United States Air Force that is expected to be awarded this year. A representative for Korea Aerospace declined to comment.

AT&T made four payments totaling $200,000 between October 2017 and January 2018, according to the documents. AT&T, whose proposed merger with Time Warner is pending before the Justice Department, issued a statement on Tuesday evening confirming that it made payments to Mr. Cohen’s firm.

“Essential Consulting was one of several firms we engaged in early 2017 to provide insights into understanding the new administration,” the statement said. “They did no legal or lobbying work for us, and the contract ended in December 2017.”

The payments by Columbus Nova occurred between January and August of last year. Andrew Intrater, the company’s American chief executive and Mr. Vekselberg’s cousin, donated $250,000 to Mr. Trump’s inauguration, campaign finance records show. He and Mr. Vekselberg attended the event together and met with Mr. Cohen there, according to a person briefed on the matter. Columbus Nova retained him as a consultant soon afterward.

The consulting deal was worth $1 million and was supposed to last for a year, according to documents reviewed by The Times. But Columbus Nova decided to end the agreement midway through after it yielded a few investment ideas but no actual deals.
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A person close to Mr. Intrater said that the executive had no idea Essential Consultants was used for the separate payment to Ms. Clifford, and that he hired a number of other consultants at the time for similar prices.

“Columbus Nova is a management company solely owned and controlled by Americans,” said Richard Owens, a lawyer for Mr. Intrater and Columbus Nova. “After the inauguration, the firm hired Michael Cohen as a business consultant regarding potential sources of capital and potential investments in real estate and other ventures. Reports today that Viktor Vekselberg used Columbus Nova as a conduit for payments to Michael Cohen are false. Neither Viktor Vekselberg nor anyone else other than Columbus Nova’s owners were involved in the decision to hire Cohen or provide funding for his engagement.”

A lawyer for Mr. Vekselberg did not respond to a request for comment.

In addition to questioning Mr. Vekselberg, Mr. Mueller’s investigators have also interviewed Mr. Intrater, though there is no indication that either man is suspected of wrongdoing, The Times reported last week.

The person close to Mr. Intrater said that he was encouraged to attend the inauguration by an American friend, unrelated to Mr. Cohen, and that he had wanted to use the trip as an opportunity to meet with business associates in Washington.

Mr. Vekselberg has invested in Columbus Nova’s private equity funds through his sprawling Russian-based conglomerate, the Renova Group, which operates in the energy sector and elsewhere. Mr. Vekselberg was one of seven Kremlin-linked oligarchs hit with sanctions in April by the Trump administration, which also imposed the penalties on the Renova Group.

Renova has had a financial relationship with VTB, one of the largest state-owned banks in Russia, according to documents that were part of the “Panama Papers” leak of files from an offshore law firm. The documents show that Mr. Vekselberg’s companies received at least $350 million in loans or investments from VTB and a subsidiary, VTB Capital. The current state of the debt is unclear, though one document suggests it was discharged in 2010.

Mr. Cohen created Essential Consultants in Delaware less than two weeks before he completed his deal with Ms. Clifford, who is now contesting her contract with Mr. Cohen as invalid. Mr. Cohen initially said he paid her out of his own pocket by way of a home equity line of credit.

But last week, former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani of New York said that Mr. Trump had reimbursed Mr. Cohen through several $35,000 monthly transactions that amounted to more than $400,000 — covering the payment to Ms. Clifford and, he said, other “incidental expenses.”

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« Reply #643 on: May 09, 2018, 04:20:30 AM »
So the Mueller people who raided Cohen's office show the NYT Cohen's records and the Times of course prints this in the news the day after Schneiderma to get that off the front page and be able to replace it with more alleged Trump related scandal of a bribe.

How convenient.   Are Cohen's records public knowledge for all to read?


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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #644 on: May 09, 2018, 07:40:32 AM »
ccp:  "How convenient.   Are Cohen's records public knowledge for all to read?"

Good point!  The Feds kick down the doors and now the whole world can see all his records? 

The over-reach of swamp "law enforcement" and agenda media has political consequences - and the taking down of a President is a political matter.

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« Reply #645 on: May 09, 2018, 08:13:10 AM »
indeed.

the leak may well have come from Schneiderschmuck's office himself since Cohen case was turned over to him I believe.  Call to NYT may have been the last thing he did before he vacated his office.

or maybe he had one of his slaves do it.

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« Reply #646 on: May 09, 2018, 09:44:08 AM »
Along those lines, it turns out the "redactions" are mostly to cover agency embarrassment, not privacy or national security concerns

Outrageous Redactions to the Russia Report
By ANDREW C. MCCARTHY
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/russia-report-redactions-cover-fbi-missteps/
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Wouldn't we want people free of deceptions and lies to investigate people for their deceptions and lies?

Why do they go more than a year without so much as an interim report to know why they are funded, continue to investigate, and what we are waiting for?

Mueller wants to get someone for something no matter the tactics required to do that and his staff wants to get Trump out no matter what he did or didn't do.  By the time a report comes out, it will mean nothing.

If trump committed impeachable acts in the campaign, in the transition, in the early days of his Presidency, or before all of that, this is a year of our nation's history he shouldn't have been President. Make a report.  If he didn't, get out of his way Mueller, you aren't his superior.

"What were you thinking when you fired Comey?"  "How did you feel when you heard I was appointed?" 

Mueller, how do you feel when you are dominating the news and wasting our time?