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A McCarthy's piece
« Reply #751 on: July 14, 2018, 04:00:58 PM »
answers the question I posed in previous post:

*****For example, they need to be jailing perps such as Strzok, Page, Comey, Lerner, Koskinen, McCabe, et.al. Otherwise, the left pays no price for their thuggishness and denial of reality. They will retain their power to maliciously ruin the lives of their political opponents, and retain control for the left at the federal level, no matter what the citizenry wants."

exactly.

however we have always seen the LEFT's people come to to the Congress , virtually and for all practical purposes , spit in their faces.  and mock the proceeding and viola - end of story.
Have there EVER been real consequences.  Can Congress do anything ?  I don't know.

we need a jury trial with 12 objective Martians who will call it like it is .  Not a DC jury that is out to gt the Right *****

Not clear is why the consummate fighter , Trump , is not ordering documents be turned over.  He is afraid of being labelled as obstructing justice?  Is as Andrew wonders he hiding something?

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #752 on: July 14, 2018, 05:06:02 PM »
Several things became clearer with yesterday's indictments of the Russian cyber-intelligence operatives.

1.  Hillary Clinton's use of a personal email server was much more dangerous to national security than anyone cares to admit.

2.  The Russians thought that Hillary would win, but they wanted to weaken her position as President and as leader of the Democrat party in order to help further Russian self-interest. 

3.  Wikileaks and Julian Assange were very likely acting in concert with the Russians.  Wikileaks may claim being an unwitting here.  I have my doubts.

4.  Certain members of the political establishment sought to misuse the Russian intelligence operations for domestic political purposes by making them the justification to turn parts of the federal government's intelligence resources upon the Trump campaign.  They were also influenced in this regard by a Ukrainian operative who worked at the DNC.  Manafort became a justification for this action because of his positions in the Trump campaign and because he was an operative for certain pro-Russian factions in Ukraine. 

5.  When Trump won the election in a surprise result, the same members of the political establishment that had misused our federal government intelligence then began an effort to cover up these crimes with a classic disinformation campaign about Trump collusion with the Russians. 

6.  Unfortunately, most of the media is so anti-Trump that it is unable and unwilling to investigate this abuse of power because it suits their political agendas to leave it alone. 

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Re: A McCarthy's piece
« Reply #753 on: July 14, 2018, 05:43:29 PM »
answers the question I posed in previous post:

*****For example, they need to be jailing perps such as Strzok, Page, Comey, Lerner, Koskinen, McCabe, et.al. Otherwise, the left pays no price for their thuggishness and denial of reality. They will retain their power to maliciously ruin the lives of their political opponents, and retain control for the left at the federal level, no matter what the citizenry wants."

exactly.

however we have always seen the LEFT's people come to to the Congress , virtually and for all practical purposes , spit in their faces.  and mock the proceeding and viola - end of story.
Have there EVER been real consequences.  Can Congress do anything ?  I don't know.

we need a jury trial with 12 objective Martians who will call it like it is .  Not a DC jury that is out to gt the Right *****

Not clear is why the consummate fighter , Trump , is not ordering documents be turned over.  He is afraid of being labelled as obstructing justice?  Is as Andrew wonders he hiding something?

If they had anything, anything at ALL, they would have leaked it to the media a YEAR ago.


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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #754 on: July 14, 2018, 07:20:22 PM »
Several things became clearer with yesterday's indictments of the Russian cyber-intelligence operatives.

1.  Hillary Clinton's use of a personal email server was much more dangerous to national security than anyone cares to admit.

2.  The Russians thought that Hillary would win, but they wanted to weaken her position as President and as leader of the Democrat party in order to help further Russian self-interest. 

3.  Wikileaks and Julian Assange were very likely acting in concert with the Russians.  Wikileaks may claim being an unwitting here.  I have my doubts.

4.  Certain members of the political establishment sought to misuse the Russian intelligence operations for domestic political purposes by making them the justification to turn parts of the federal government's intelligence resources upon the Trump campaign.  They were also influenced in this regard by a Ukrainian operative who worked at the DNC.  Manafort became a justification for this action because of his positions in the Trump campaign and because he was an operative for certain pro-Russian factions in Ukraine. 

5.  When Trump won the election in a surprise result, the same members of the political establishment that had misused our federal government intelligence then began an effort to cover up these crimes with a classic disinformation campaign about Trump collusion with the Russians. 

6.  Unfortunately, most of the media is so anti-Trump that it is unable and unwilling to investigate this abuse of power because it suits their political agendas to leave it alone.

HI Rick,
We know all the above.  But it makes no difference.
As a "righty" this is all so frustrating. 

If you don't mind my asking are you actually involved in the above process or simply taking an interest in this ?

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #755 on: July 14, 2018, 10:36:18 PM »
Rick:

Good to see you here!

Flesh this out for me please:

"3.  Wikileaks and Julian Assange were very likely acting in concert with the Russians.  Wikileaks may claim being an unwitting here.  I have my doubts."

Marc

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #756 on: July 16, 2018, 04:28:31 PM »
Rick:

Good to see you here!

Flesh this out for me please:

"3.  Wikileaks and Julian Assange were very likely acting in concert with the Russians.  Wikileaks may claim being an unwitting here.  I have my doubts."

Marc

Marc, if he is not an unwitting, then what is he? 

http://www.businessinsider.com/snowden-assange-wikileaks-and-russia-2013-8

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #757 on: July 16, 2018, 05:11:38 PM »
Still digesting this morning's events , , , just watched the Chris Wallace interview of Putin , , , a friend sent me this: 
https://brassballs.blog/home/strzok-worked-for-cia-and-fbi-at-the-same-time-in-counterespionage?format=amp&__twitter_impression=true

We live in interesting times , , ,

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #759 on: July 17, 2018, 08:50:02 AM »
A lot of people are criticizing Trump for not saying that he believes the intelligence assessment of Russian interference over Putin's denials.

I think that Trump handled the issue properly, but not artfully.

Mueller's Friday the 13th indictment of those 12 Russian operatives turned a counterintelligence issue into a matter of US criminal procedure.  As Andy McCarthy noted correctly, because the indictment asserts US jurisdiction over their actions, the Mueller indictment granted those 12 Russian defendants the full protection of the US Constitution.  For federal court defendants, this involves especially Amendments 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8.  And this also includes the presumption of their innocence.

If Trump answers that question by saying that he believes the US intelligence assessment over Putin's denials, then he has prejudged the case and Mueller's ability to prosecute those 12 defendants successfully would have been reduced significantly.

Whether or not Trump had thought the matter through this far is unimportant.  Whatever the motivation for his answer, the answer was the correct one.  Trump cannot have an official opinion about the evidence against these 12 defendants now that Mueller made the matter one of criminal justice instead of counterintelligence.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #760 on: July 17, 2018, 02:03:19 PM »
Trump now says that he meant to say, "Why wouldn't it be Russia?"  instead of "Why would it be Russia?" 

OK.  You must be careful with the double negatives. 


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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #762 on: July 19, 2018, 09:53:06 AM »
quote author=Crafty_Dog
Still digesting this morning's events , , , just watched the Chris Wallace interview of Putin , ,
We live in interesting times , , ,
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I watched the interview yesterday. Quite interesting! Besides being a ruthless murderer, Putin is quite a skilled politician. There were a number of tense moments. I don't know how they do it without interpreter delays. On Chris Wallace's part, perhaps it was the best interview attempt ever by an American journalist.

Putin seamlessly mixed his truths, untruths and avoidance.  He was far more candid than I expected.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/vladimir-putins-chris-wallace-interview-5-tense-moments.html

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2017: That DNC server
« Reply #765 on: July 20, 2018, 01:06:52 PM »
Michael Tracey
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Jun 7, 2017
CrowdStrike, The DNC’s Security Firm, Was Under Contract With The FBI

Claims of “Russian interference” have been ubiquitous in U.S. political discourse for almost a full year now; these often amount to a melange of allegations ranging from “hacking” to “influence campaigns” to “online trolls” sent by the Kremlin to harangue unsuspecting Midwestern voters. “Hacking,” however, remains the centerpiece of the narrative — the idea that Russian state actors “hacked” the Democratic National Committee and exfiltrated emails is routinely cited as the centerpiece of the overall “interference” thesis. After the alleged hacking, the DNC retained a private security firm — CrowdStrike — which made the determination that the Russian government was responsible, setting into motion a chain of Russia-related events that continue to unfold even now.

TYT can report that at the same time CrowdStrike was working on behalf of the DNC, the company was also under contract with the FBI for unspecified technical services. According to a US federal government spending database, CrowdStrike’s “period of performance” on behalf of the FBI was between July 2015 and July 2016. CrowdStrike’s findings regarding the DNC server breach — which continue to this day to be cited as authoritative by everyone from former FBI Director James Comey, to NBC anchor Megyn Kelly — were issued in June 2016, when the contract was still active.

Last week at a forum with Vladimir Putin, Kelly listed all the authoritative American entities which she claimed have corroborated the conclusion that Russian state actors “interfered” in the 2016 presidential election. (Notwithstanding its vagueness and imprecision, the term “interference” has come to be the standard term American media personalities invoke when seeking to describe how “Russians” maliciously undermined the sanctity of the 2016 US election process.) Querying Putin, Kelly repeated the canard that “17 intelligence agencies” had all independently concluded that Russia indeed “interfered” — whatever that means, exactly. She then continued: “Even private, non-partisan security firms say the same… that Russia interfered with the US election.”

The most prominent “private, non-partisan security firm” is CrowdStrike, and despite Kelly’s use of the term “non-partisan” to describe the firm, its fiduciary relationship with the DNC suggests otherwise. As the journalist Yasha Levine wrote in The Baffler,

Far from establishing an airtight case for Russian espionage, CrowdStrike made a point of telling its DNC clients what it already knew they wanted to hear: after a cursory probe, it pronounced the Russians the culprits. Mainstream press outlets, primed for any faint whiff of great-power scandal and poorly versed in online threat detection, likewise treated the CrowdStrike report as all but incontrovertible.

In April 2016, two months before the June report was issued, former President Barack Obama appointed Steven Chabinsky, “general counsel and Chief Risk officer” for CrowdStrike, to a presidential “Commission for Enhancing Cybersecurity,” further demonstrating CrowdStrike’s intermingling with powerful Democratic Party factions.

Neither the FBI nor CrowdStrike responded to requests for comment on the nature of the services provided. As of yet, the only entity known to receive primary access to the DNC servers is CrowdStrike. At a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing in January, Comey testified that the FBI had been denied access to the servers by the DNC after repeated requests. And unnamed FBI officials told reporters, “The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated.”

Comey’s long-awaited Congressional testimony on Thursday may provide additional insight into the FBI’s reliance on the firm.

Effectively, information that is now central to massively consequential geopolitical disputes has been “privatized“ and held exclusively by a profit-seeking entity. CrowdStrike’s findings continue to be repeated by journalists and politicians with unflinching certainty — despite the fact that it was forced to retract a central element of another report involving related malware attribution, raising doubts about the reliability of its DNC conclusions. As Jeffrey Carr, a security researcher who has been critical of CrowdStrike’s methods, told me: “The foundation of placing the blame on Russia was false.”

Power to determine world events is increasingly being concentrated in the hands of a tiny group of self-proclaimed “experts” who aren’t accountable to the public, but to clients and investors. CrowdStrike, evidently benefitting from the surge in PR, announced last month that it had been valued at one billion dollars.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #766 on: July 20, 2018, 01:32:30 PM »
second post

Why Trump’s Detractors Cry ‘Treason’
He won’t go along with their efforts to deny the legitimacy of his election. Can you blame him?
By Michael Anton
July 19, 2018 6:21 p.m. ET


President Trump is, as ever, fortunate in his enemies. Whatever one thinks of what he said in Helsinki, the overreaction is helping him plow through yet another media meltdown. Cries of “treason,” charges that the president is a Russian “asset,” and insistence that remarks at a press conference constitute impeachable offenses fire up the Democratic base. To everyone else, they seem unhinged.

What’s the fuss about, anyway? Before Helsinki, Mr. Trump had said three times—on camera—that he believed Russia meddled in the 2016 election. Yet a reporter asked him again. Why?

Mr. Trump intuits, correctly, that the media push the issue in order to undermine his legitimacy. He obviously has no interest in helping them do that, hence he challenges the question’s premise. His opponents won’t take yes for an answer because asking him over and over fuels the falsehood that he “sides with Russia over his own intelligence agencies.”

He doesn’t. But doesn’t he have good reason to be cautious about the intelligence community? There’s plenty of evidence of illicit American interference in the 2016 election, all of it to defeat Mr. Trump and elect Hillary Clinton. Yet when Mr. Trump points that out, he’s literally called a traitor—by the former head of the Central Intelligence Agency. John Brennan and James Clapper attack the president in vitriolic terms almost daily. James Comey occasionally chimes in with a Bible quote. They have a First Amendment right to do so. But constantly bashing the president casts doubt on their impartiality and professionalism while in office.

Despite all this, Mr. Trump says he believes their case that Russia meddled in 2016. So do I. But I stress the word “believe.” I don’t know and neither does anyone outside the highest levels of government. Those in the media who hyperventilate every time Mr. Trump is insufficiently emphatic in acknowledging Russian meddling don’t seem to realize he is one of the very few people in the country who’ve actually seen the underlying evidence.

Before last week’s indictments, all the intelligence community had made public was a 14-page unclassified summary that states conclusions but reveals nothing about how they were reached. That’s typical for an unclassified product, but it means the rest of us—including the media—have to take the case on faith. Yet, bizarrely, the media insist they know better than Mr. Trump.

There is more public evidence of American meddling—politicized leaks, gaming a criminal investigation, surveillance of campaign associates, and strings of biased messages by officials—than of Russian. There may be piles of secret evidence of the latter. If so, why not make more of it public? Especially since, as we have been told, acknowledging Russian interference is the patriotic imperative of our time.

From what has been made public, Russian meddling consisted of trolling social media and allegedly hacking Democratic National Committee emails. Information operations are also as old as statecraft. There’s not a lot the target country can do to stop them, beyond pointing out and ridiculing ham-fisted propaganda. Throughout the Cold War, most Americans not on the left were unaffected by far more aggressive and better-financed Soviet disinformation. But we’re supposed to believe that $10 million spent on Facebook ads and troll farms overcame Mrs. Clinton’s $768 million war chest?

Every effort should be made to protect all of America’s cybernetworks, including the privacy of campaign operatives. But it’s absurd to assume that a single vote in Michigan, Pennsylvania or Wisconsin was turned by reading John Podesta’s embarrassing emails.

Few of the president’s opponents actually say that Russia swung him the election. But that’s clearly what they insinuate and want people to believe. Mr. Trump understands this and is frustrated by it. Can you blame him?

Mr. Anton, a lecturer at Hillsdale College’s Kirby Center, served as deputy assistant to the president for strategic communications, 2017-18.

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no end to this.
« Reply #767 on: July 20, 2018, 05:25:53 PM »
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/cohen-trump-recorded-payment/2018/07/20/id/872873/

 :cry:

Michael Savage sounded like he is almost given up.  Begged Trump to please take a break from tweets.
Talking about what it will be like to live in socialism. The young appear to have no clue.



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Was there sufficient notice of motives behind dossier in FISA application?
« Reply #768 on: July 22, 2018, 08:01:39 AM »
Argues that FISA warrant application made reasonable/sufficient notice of political motivation behind Steele  dossier.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-make-carter-page-fisa-applications

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #770 on: July 22, 2018, 08:26:57 AM »
IF they had adequately and HONESTLY informed the judge of the "dossier " or whatever one wants to call it as being paid for by a political opponent would it have made one pubic hair bit of difference?

Is it not true the FISA courts grants just about everything asked of it  to the tune of 99%?

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The FISA application; Why is Mueller handing off key cases?
« Reply #771 on: July 22, 2018, 08:59:11 AM »
One of the accusations from our side was that the court was not fairly apprised of the political motivations behind the acquisition of the "evidence" being proffered.

At the moment I would say that this charge from our side has been answered.

As for the 97% (my understanding of the what number is) warrant approval rate goes, IIRC the original application was actually rejected and was not approved until a subsequent application that used the Steele dossier material.  The Deep State has argued that the dossier was a secondary and not very important part of the application, Team Trump and supporters of the rule of law have argued that it was essential to the application.

As best as I can tell from this morning's heavily redacted release, the dossier is being shown to have been the PRIMARY source for the application that succeeded.

Also to be kept in mind is that the law and DOJ regs in question REQUIRE that the evidence being proffered be vetted by those presenting the warrant and that this was NOT done, they relied upon Steele, and did not independently vet.

Separately, here is this interesting piece:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/why-is-mueller-handing-off-key-cases

Several points worth noting, one that caught my eye as a simple debating point for us-- If Mueller was serious about indicting the GRU 12, why did he not keep the indictments secret so as to facilitate snatching them if/when any of them went outside of Russia?


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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #773 on: July 23, 2018, 08:43:21 AM »
A savvy friend comments:

The third paragraph is the only one worth reading.  We don’t want to blow up the global aluminum market, and a bunch of countries asked us to ease back a bit.  Remember that sanctions make sense only if they hurt the target more than they hurt you.



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Russia gate explained
« Reply #776 on: July 23, 2018, 03:22:33 PM »


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Daily Beast humor like NY Daily News
« Reply #778 on: July 27, 2018, 02:04:09 PM »
"art of the rat"

"no need to wire up - I already did !"

"bullet shit"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-cohen-debuts-the-art-of-the-squeal

***it's like the  Trump - Rosie bruhaha of several years ago - only now he is President and the tabloids are CNN and the MSM and Mueller is acting like the paparazzi.

How can we keep a straight face?***   :lol:

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, Trey Gowdy
« Reply #779 on: July 30, 2018, 06:39:39 AM »
' I've seen as much evidence as anyone in Congress has seen...
Not one scintilla of evidence that Trump colluded with Russia...
You can rest assured that if there was, Adam Schiff would have leaked it all over the media'  - Trey Gowdy recently

I post this not because it is news but because the Sunday shows I saw were all Russia all the time while the news in the world they are diverting from is the roaring American economy.

I thought we were about to receive a Mueller report.  If he cannot release a final report, shouldn't he have an interim report to serve as a factual basis for the midterm elections?

Where is the indictment of Don Trump Jr.?  He met with a Russian intending to get dirt on his opposition. If that is illegal, again, where is the indictment? Now the president is accused of knowing about the meeting where nothing illegal occurred. This is the biggest news story in the country?

Who knew that Russia conspiracy and a media invented frenzy could be merged into one thread?

The midterm is about impeachment versus letting this President govern. Don't we deserve to see evidence of one arguably impeachable offense so that we can debate it? So far all I've seen is sour grapes from a party who failed to develop one serious presidential contender for 2016 and isn't developing any for 2020.
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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #780 on: July 30, 2018, 02:19:49 PM »
we are seeing headlines
bottom line if c[rat]s win Congress we are in another 2 yrs of war with no ability to push through any agenda and an impeachment drama that will dominate headlines for the next 2 yrs . 
they CANNOT win period.
we know all along this was all about getting Trump.  can anyone think of on c[rat] who was squeezed to squeal like the bands of DC lawyers are doing to Trump people ?

How do the Podesta brothers simply walk.  We all ready know about Schultz Clinton and Cheryl Mills and on and on .

They must not win this :

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/07/30/paul-manafort-trial-robert-mueller-hoping-he-will-choose-testify-against-trump-rather-die

Crime or not there will a case made for  impeachment  which is what Mueller's team of lawyers was doing from day one.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Mueller report before Sept 5 or bust
« Reply #781 on: July 31, 2018, 05:40:32 AM »
Is it a formal or informal rule that he should not inject his report within 60 days of an election? In any case that is but a month away. If he does it at the last second, he still is injecting his report into the campaign. Giuliani basically said Trump isn't going to answer any questions. They've provided enough. The investigation is not legitimate from their point of view. End this. The Manafort trial starts now.  That is irrelevant to the Trump Russia non-allegation.

My view:  We paid for an expensive, flawed investigation. At some point, like now, show us what you've got. Prosecute or remove the legal cloud.  Close up shop. The implication is that they are holding something that is borderline impeachable. The voters deserve to know the facts before they choose the membership of the new Congress  Times up.  Show us your cards.


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Is it?
« Reply #783 on: July 31, 2018, 07:01:18 PM »


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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #785 on: August 01, 2018, 06:06:08 AM »
GM:

"is the Russian collusion in the room right now with us?"

since collusion not a crime now they switched to "conspiracy".  Though to me it is still a fabricated farce .  If people working together to dig up dirt on an opposition candidate, now called "conspiring" to beat this candidate is now a crime then every politician in the US should be in jail.

And if the source is a foreign government so what if the information is 100% true .  The only crimes are  the ones exposed by the information on Hillary and mob ironically.

And as pointed out Hill and gang had no problem using s compilation of Russian sourced info (the STeele hit job) to hurt Trump  and Mueller and gang and whole Dem party had not problem "conspiring " to use that to go after Trump

NO the only conspiracy that is criminal is this whole use of deep state to go after Trump.

Sure if you want to find out what Russia did fine , beyond that the rest is a illegal conspiracy to take down a President they don't like.

I am stepping off my soap box now.

Hope this was not too long winded .



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Dianne Feinstein ; move along folks nothing here
« Reply #786 on: August 03, 2018, 09:16:01 PM »
*******Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee*******
Assumed office
January 3, 2017
*******Vice Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee********
In office
January 3, 2015 – January 3, 2017
*******Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee**********
In office
January 3, 2009 – January 3, 2015

HAD CHINESE SPY DRIVE HER AROUND FOR 20 YRS.: UNTIL ABOUT 5 YRS AGO. (while she was chair of senate [un]intelligent committee)
ALAS SHE FIRED HIM:

http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/03/sen-dianne-feinsteins-personal-driver-20-years-chinese-spy/



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Re: Dianne Feinstein ; move along folks nothing here
« Reply #787 on: August 04, 2018, 11:49:47 PM »
*******Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee*******
Assumed office
January 3, 2017
*******Vice Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee********
In office
January 3, 2015 – January 3, 2017
*******Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee**********
In office
January 3, 2009 – January 3, 2015

HAD CHINESE SPY DRIVE HER AROUND FOR 20 YRS.: UNTIL ABOUT 5 YRS AGO. (while she was chair of senate [un]intelligent committee)
ALAS SHE FIRED HIM:

http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/03/sen-dianne-feinsteins-personal-driver-20-years-chinese-spy/




I can't find any sign of outrage from the left. Weird.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #791 on: August 14, 2018, 07:32:05 AM »
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillary-clinton/

All true but this:
"What's next? It's possible the collusion investigation soon will turn from Trump to Clinton. If so, it could lead to more resignations and possibly jail time for those involved. That includes perhaps even Hillary Clinton, who sits at the political epicenter of all this illegality."

This won't happen with Jeff Sessions or whats his face who works with him
The Mueller team is not interested since they are all crats and I don't know what makes anyone at this point believe Mueller is not corrupt either.

This as fully expected will drag on till after the election and if crats don't win the House probably till '20.  If they do strategy is to present case for impeachment .

We all know this.  Getting fully tired of the MSM denying the obvious and the Dems simply  lying as they always have done .  Probably the only high level Dem I can think of who was not a liar was Jimmy Carter . 


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Andrew McCarthy's best yet
« Reply #793 on: August 18, 2018, 04:38:04 AM »
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/john-brennan-security-clearance-revocation-justified/

This part leaves me aghast.  Suddenly the God Damn Left is making some sort of scandal about NDAs between Trump and someone who was on his reality show and then I read this:

" we should add Hayes’s reporting that Brennan’s CIA presented NDAs to survivors of the Benghazi terrorist attack — at a memorial service for those killed during the siege — in order to silence them while the Obama administration’s indefensible performance was being investigated.) In 2015, over 50 intelligence analysts complained that their reports on ISIS and al-Qaeda were being altered by senior officials in order to support misleading Obama-administration storylines. "

The sad part is because we have a Left wing media Obama gets away with it all.
Not one iota of responsibility for this Benghazi mess he and Hillary created . 


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WSJ: Trump waives the privilege
« Reply #795 on: August 20, 2018, 07:09:47 AM »
 By The Editorial Board
Aug. 19, 2018 6:19 p.m. ET

Donald Trump has a credibility problem, but so do the media. A case in point is the weekend story that White House counsel Don McGahn has cooperated with special counsel Robert Mueller. Let’s try to navigate through this Beltway Hall of Mirrors.

The thesis of the New York Times story is that Mr. McGahn cooperated in a way that could hurt Donald Trump in order to protect himself and because he doesn’t trust the President. This fits the media narrative that Mr. Trump is covering up his collusion with Russia and his obstruction of justice, and thus Mr. McGahn must be scrambling to save himself.


Yet lost in the resulting tempest is a crucial fact that appears to contradict this spin: Mr. Trump had to waive executive privilege for Mr. McGahn to cooperate with Mr. Mueller.

Mr. McGahn is not Mr. Trump’s personal attorney, so attorney-client privilege isn’t at issue. But as White House counsel Mr. McGahn represents the Presidency. He is a careful enough lawyer to advise Mr. Trump that agreeing to answer Mr. Mueller’s questions would waive executive privilege. And the Times reports that Mr. McGahn’s attorney, William Burck, said on the record that Mr. McGahn cooperated only after Mr. Trump waived any privilege claim.

This in turn meant that Mr. McGahn would have to answer all of Mr. Mueller’s questions. Once privilege is waived, Mr. McGahn couldn’t decide to answer, say, what Mr. Trump told him about Attorney General Jeff Sessions but refuse to discuss the President’s state of mind when he fired James Comey at the FBI. Without invoking privilege there is no legal basis for Mr. McGahn to refuse to answer a question.

This isn’t what you’d expect if Mr. Trump is leading a coverup. Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton fought extensive legal battles with prosecutors over executive privilege. Mr. Clinton invoked privilege to block aides Bruce Lindsey and Sidney Blumenthal from testifying to Ken Starr’s grand jury.Yet when Mr. Trump doesn’t invoke privilege for his White House counsel, he gets no credit.

Could it be that Mr. Trump let Mr. McGahn cooperate with Mr. Mueller because he felt he had nothing to cover up? This is precisely what Mr. Trump tweeted Saturday: “I allowed him and all others to testify - I didn’t have to. I have nothing to hide.”

Because Mr. Trump makes so many false statements, this claim is also assumed to be false—though legal logic and the public evidence suggest that in this case it may be true. Keep in mind that Mr. Trump’s lawyers cooperated extensively with Mr. Mueller for months, turning over tens of thousands of documents—also without claiming executive privilege.

In recent months, as the Mueller probe has dragged on, Mr. Trump has turned to denouncing it as a “witch hunt.” His lawyers now fear that letting the President talk to Mr. Mueller’s team, as Mr. Trump has said he wants to do, could be walking into a perjury trap. This is a rational fear, but the lawyers are still negotiating with Mr. Mueller.

Mr. McGahn has been one of the President’s most effective advisers—notably on judicial nominations. But some in and outside the White House resent his influence and might want to portray him as undermining Mr. Trump. The bottom line is that readers should remain skeptical about what is reported about Mr. Mueller’s probe, waiting to see the evidence he actually produces.

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Newt's argument here seems strong to me
« Reply #796 on: August 20, 2018, 05:16:15 PM »
Mueller’s Fatal Mistake
Originally published at Fox News

There is now no excuse for Special Counsel Mueller to ask to interview President Trump.

In fact, it is now clear the investigators have been given so much information about the President’s actions and had such remarkably open access, they should just close shop and write their final report.

They no longer have any grounds for going to court to get a subpoena to compel the President to testify.

Mueller’s fatal mistake was revealed Saturday in The New York Times story titled, “White House Counsel, Don McGahn, Has Cooperated Extensively in Mueller Inquiry.” Michael Schmidt and Maggie Haberman reported that there were at least 30 hours of interviews between the Mueller team and the White House Counsel.
Don McGahn asserted throughout the interviews that “he never saw Mr. Trump go beyond his legal authorities.”

McGahn’s cooperation is historically unique because President Trump waived both executive privilege and attorney-client privilege. President Trump was so confident of his innocence that he waived both of these protections to allow the Special Counsel to thoroughly question the White House attorney.

Accepting such thorough and detailed briefing from the White House Counsel will ultimately hurt the efforts of Mueller’s team of left-wing Democratic lawyers.
McGahn is a very widely-respected lawyer, who thoroughly understands the difference between legal and illegal behavior – and he was in the room for virtually all of President Trump’s activities.

It couldn’t be more clear: The Trump White House was comfortable talking for 30 hours with a pack of high-powered, very tough-minded investigators, because the President has done nothing wrong.

Nevertheless, at every stage, Mueller has conducted an aggressive, one-sided, and increasingly irresponsible, investigation.

Mueller was brought in to seek the truth about whether there was collusion between the Donald Trump campaign and Russians to impact the 2016 election.

His first step down the road of abusive aggressiveness was to hire a completely partisan team of mostly Democrat attorneys. Mueller could have hired a balanced team of Republican and Democratic lawyers. He could have avoided hiring lawyers who had worked for Hillary Clinton or gone to the Clinton election night party. Instead he hired totally biased opponents of Trump – who want to take down the President.

Mueller’s second step down the road was to find accusations that had nothing to do with the election, the Russians, or a question of collusion.

Look at the outrageous abuse of Paul Manafort. Manafort had been campaign chairman. He had ties with foreign businessmen. He had done extensive business in Ukraine. I’m sure the Mueller team believed if anyone was the obvious entry point for collusion, it would have been Manafort.

Yet, they found nothing.

Let me repeat this, because it is so ignored by the daily media headlines: The Mueller team found no evidence of Manafort colluding with any foreign entities on the 2016 election.

Manafort is being tried over tax and banking issues that have nothing to do with Russian collusion or any election.

In fact, the Manafort trial is a case study in how a ruthless prosecutor can use the power of the state to intimidate and punish an individual. Manafort and his wife were awakened in their pajamas in pre-dawn hours by FBI agents conducting a raid on their residence – even though the previous day Manafort had been cooperating with the Senate’s investigative body. Furthermore, there was no evidence Manafort represented any danger of violence or flight. The early morning attack was designed to frighten Manafort and send a signal to other potential witnesses to cooperate – or else.

An extraordinary abuse of power was displayed through Mueller’s holding of Manafort in solitary confinement in a cell for 23 hours a day as he awaited trial. This level of deprivation is astonishing when done to an American citizen, who has committed no violent crimes and has not been convicted of anything. Again, it is an effort to intimidate and coerce.

Mueller also understands that every person he goes after has to hire lawyers, spend their lifetime savings, and potentially end up deeply in debt to simply protect themselves from government lawyers who could potentially put them in prison.

Now, we are at the end of the failed investigation.

With McGahn’s 30 hours of testimony, it is clear there is no evidence of President Trump either colluding with the Russians or engaging in illegal obstruction of justice.
Saturday’s New York Times story should be the end of the story.

No sitting president has the time for distractions as big as the Mueller investigation absent the showing of a compelling need – the most important element of which is that any information President Trump has cannot be derived from some other source.

President Trump has not invoked any privilege and has permitted complete access to his White House Counsel, as well as others. Mueller can no longer even come close to meeting the compelling need standard.   As such, it is time to shut the investigation down and allow the President to do what Americans hired him to do – focus on making America great again. Continuing to draw out this partisan investigation only serves to confirm what most Americans now understand – it had no basis in law or fact.

Mueller should write his report to Congress and return to his retirement.
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Re: Newt's argument here seems strong to me
« Reply #797 on: August 21, 2018, 07:02:36 AM »
Agreed on your main point, just quibbling with Newt's wording:

"Mueller’s Fatal Mistake"

The goal in the first place was to investigate a crime that didn't happen, not to prosecute it. It is not a failure to find no one guilty and issue a report. The failure was the time and resources wasted.

Is he really going to leave a cloud over the mid-terms when he has still found no evidence of collusion?

Lindsey Graham makes a good point about the double standard. Senator Feinstein was warned of a spy on her team.  Why was candidate and president Trump not afforded the same courtesy? Partisan 'justice', unequal treatment under the law. Were they trying to prevent espionage or were they setting a trap? The answer to that is obvious.

On the other hand, it was quite cringe-worthy when Trump publicly asked the Russians to release Hillary's emails if they have them. Brennan either used that as his launching point or more likely he used it to justify what he had already improperly and illegally launched.
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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #798 on: August 21, 2018, 07:34:51 AM »
Doug writes :  " otoh was quite cringe-worthy when Trump publicly asked the Russians to release Hillary's emails if they have them."

The key word is *pulbicly*  Trump always happy to speak on uncontrolled impulses.
But at least he was honest.

Hillary used her mobster lawyers to covertly  reach out to Fusion to get purported dirt on Trump from the Russians .
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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #799 on: August 21, 2018, 09:14:12 AM »
ccp, True.  He wouldn't have said it publicly if he was trying to cover up collusion.

It turns out people did want to know what was in the hidden emails. The Russians or Wikileaks would have had no role if she had complied with Congressional subpoenas when they were issued.