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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness
« Reply #650 on: October 20, 2010, 10:18:28 AM »
"Frankly I haven't seen any great exodus or rebellion amongst MSM."

Not a great rebellion, I think they moved slightly from worship and celebration to just traditional bias in coverage and questioning as he moved from Messiah to 50% disapproval.  They are covering the fact that he is in deep trouble now even if the motive is just to get people motivated to come out and support him, and they are covering the dismal economy somewhat but not like they would if it was a Republican administration.

The irregularities in the negotiating and passing of health care were maybe covered and questioned by the MSM I think, were they not?  Meet the Press guests etc. were questioned about the Cornhuisker Kickback,  the closed door negotiations and 'deeming' a bill passed, Sunday night votes etc.

One indicator is the Letterman Leno type shows. Letterman actually said around election and inauguration time that he had no idea what to poke fun at now, and then went on with old Bush is dumb jokes and Palin mockery. It took maybe a year and a half before I saw him tell a derogatory joke about anything to do with Obama, but they mix some in now.

Didn't Colbert or Stewart start doing a few rips on Obama, his advisers and czars?  I doubt if you will find one of those during the summer of 2008.

Washington Post carried a piece last week in defense of Sarah Palin by a Weekly Standard writer. You didn't see that during the campaign.  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/14/AR2010101404794.html?hpid=topnews

Newspapers sometimes seem to not care that their product is aimed at only half the market.  Now facing bankruptcy and with plenty of negative administration stories available, we at least see some opposition stories and columns IMO.

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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness
« Reply #651 on: October 22, 2010, 07:39:43 AM »
Doug and Rarick,
No more blatant about media bias is the Juan Williams thing.

I could swear I heard him say on FOX way back he said he actually voted for McCain.

That alone puts a little red laser beam dot on his forhead from the leftist propaganda machine.

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« Reply #652 on: October 22, 2010, 06:21:34 PM »
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/10/22/doj-sources-tell-wapo-yes-racial-politics-are-being-played-in-the-civil-rights-division/

DOJ sources tell WaPo: Yes, racial politics are being played in the Civil Rights Division

posted at 8:57 pm on October 22, 2010 by Allahpundit


A blockbuster, Breitbart calls it. Remember J. Christian Adams and the New Black Panther Party voting rights case? Thanks to Adams, the DOJ pursued a civil action against two Panther members for intimidating voters outside a polling place in Philly in 2008. The Panthers didn’t contest it and the DOJ won a permanent injunction — only to then drop the charges, seemingly inexplicably. Adams and a colleague claimed that the Department backed off because they didn’t want to pursue voting rights actions against minority defendants. DOJ higher-ups denied it. The Civil Rights Commission started investigating, and they eventually started splitting over what happened too.

Finally, at long last, WaPo decided to try to figure out what happened. Who’s right? Adams in asserting that there’s institutional resistance to using voting rights laws — which were, after all, passed in response to white abuses against blacks — against minority defendants? Or the higher-ups in insisting that the Panther case had nothing to do with race but merely with weak evidence? WaPo’s verdict:

    In recent months, Adams and a Justice Department colleague have said the case was dismissed because the department is reluctant to pursue cases against minorities accused of violating the voting rights of whites. Three other Justice Department lawyers, in recent interviews, gave the same description of the department’s culture, which department officials strongly deny…

    Civil rights officials from the Bush administration have said that enforcement should be race-neutral. But some officials from the Obama administration, which took office vowing to reinvigorate civil rights enforcement, thought the agency should focus primarily on cases filed on behalf of minorities.

    “The Voting Rights Act was passed because people like Bull Connor were hitting people like John Lewis, not the other way around,” said one Justice Department official not authorized to speak publicly, referring to the white Alabama police commissioner who cracked down on civil rights protesters such as Lewis, now a Democratic congressman from Georgia…

    Three Justice Department lawyers, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they feared retaliation from their supervisors, described the same tensions, among career lawyers as well as political appointees. Employees who worked on the [Ike] Brown case were harassed by colleagues, they said, and some department lawyers anonymously went on legal blogs “absolutely tearing apart anybody who was involved in that case,” said one lawyer.

    “There are career people who feel strongly that it is not the voting section’s job to protect white voters,” the lawyer said. “The environment is that you better toe the line of traditional civil rights ideas or you better keep quiet about it, because you will not advance, you will not receive awards and you will be ostracized.”

Adams wrote about the Ike Brown case for Pajamas Media here and here. It was brought in 2005 and marked the first time a voting rights action had been pursued against a minority defendant; as WaPo says, “Adams later told the civil rights commission that the decision to bring the Brown case caused bitter divisions in the voting section and opposition from civil rights groups.” Which is to say, apparently the institutional hostility to these actions inside the Civil Rights Division pre-dates Obama and his appointments. That’s how entrenched it is. As for the Panther case, WaPo reaches no formal conclusion but between those brutal quotes and the fact that legal experts are at a loss to explain why charges would be dismissed in an action where a default judgment had already been granted, you can draw your own conclusion. (Other officials told them that Holder was aware of the case but that the decision to drop the charges didn’t come from him.)

Not only am I amazed that they published this, I’m doubly amazed that they did it 10 days before a giant midterm. This is a “week after the election” story if ever there was one. Exit question: Second look at WaPo?


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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness
« Reply #653 on: October 25, 2010, 03:58:48 PM »
"He said Republicans had driven the economy into a ditch and then stood by and criticized while Democrats pulled it out. Now that progress has been made, he said, "we can't have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

This is really a remarkable statement from our first Black President.

I am sure the MSM will ignore it.

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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness
« Reply #654 on: October 25, 2010, 04:03:34 PM »
As things continue to fail, you'll see Barry-O really start to decompensate.

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« Reply #655 on: October 26, 2010, 08:41:34 AM »
"As things continue to fail, you'll see Barry-O really start to decompensate."

GM that's what I think too.  My prediction:

The real disorder of his personality - lack of self insight - will manifest itself more and more.

The MSM can keep ignoring this for now.  Sooner or later they will have to confront this.  At that point watch for even more Hillary events, appearances etc. Can't drop the progressive agenda ball for long.  Gotta keep the progressive programs going.  She will be called on to save it.  O please Bill/Hill - save us from disaster. :wink:

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« Reply #656 on: October 26, 2010, 06:13:44 PM »
Treasury hiring FOIA officers 'to withhold information from release to public'

By: J.P. Freire
Associate Commentary Editor
10/25/10 7:15 PM EDT

Officials at the Treasury Department’s Office of Financial Stability contracted with a small consulting firm that has given nearly $25,000 to Democratic candidates since 2005 (and no money to Republicans) to hire “Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) Analysts to support the Disclosure Services, Privacy and Treasury Records.” The firm is currently advertising a job opening for a FOIA analyst with experience in the “Use of FOIA/PA exemptions to withhold information from release to the public” (emphasis mine, and if that link goes down, The Examiner has kept a copy for its records).

UPDATE: Phacil has changed their job description on their website (without making a note), however here is a link to another job description for the same job that still uses the above as a qualification. They also have not yet returned calls to The Examiner. The side by side comparison of the old and modified versions are at the bottom of this post.

This means that the entire OFS, which is tasked with overseeing the Troubled Asset Relief Program, is trying to hire people who will withhold information from release to the public.

In fact, according to the website of the staffing company, Phacil (pronounced Fa-SEAL), co-founders Rafael Collado and Sascha Mornell were “thanked by President Obama,” and “commended at the White House during National Small Business Week for being selected the SBA New Jersey State Small Business Persons of the Year.” The contract is listed under service contracts of the Office of Financial Stability in a recent report from the special inspector general for the Troubled Asset Relief Program. Collado and Mornell are among the top donors at the firm. Mornell has given $12,600 over the years, while Collado has given $6,700. Another donor, Robert Cottingham, listed Phacil as his employer, stating his position as vice president of government affairs.

That Treasury outsourced its mechanism for transparency to a firm with such partisan ties casts new light on a report from Bloomberg News in which Treasury officials have repeatedly obstructed reporters’ requests for information.

In one instance, Treasury waited to respond to a Freedom of Information request for 20 months despite saying at least five times that a response was imminent. Bloomberg had requested that officials identify $301 billion of securities owned by Citigroup Inc. that the government had agreed to guarantee. When a response finally came, it was in the form of 560 pages of printed-out and heavily redacted emails, none of which had been requested. It is not certain whether Phacil was involved in redacting the emails, but the incomplete response was considered sufficient by the department to fulfill the requirements of a “partial response.”

In another, Treasury cited a “trade-secrets exemption” when responding to another of Bloomberg’s FOIA requests about Citigroup’s segregated bad assets. According to Bloomberg:

In that response, 73 of 104 pages were completely blacked out except for headings.

Only six pages — the cover, contents, a boilerplate list of legal disclosures and a paragraph titled “FOIA Request for Confidential Treatment” — were free of redactions.

But it too is considered a “partial response:”

The department’s reply to Pittman’s request will count statistically as a “partial response,” in government reports, said Hugh Gilmore, Treasury’s FOIA public liaison. The response “adhered to the rules, regulations, U.S. attorney general guidance and relevant case law that govern FOIA,” Steven Adamske, a Treasury spokesman, said in an e-mail.

Such legal acrobatics may have been informed by Phacil’s consulting, even as it advertises the meaning of the company name on its website: “Phacil, pronounced ‘Fah-SEAL;’ achieved with little effort or difficulty; easy.” Except when it comes to transparency.

In fact, while Phacil’s website advertises among its services its ability to conduct Freedom of Information Act work, no contracts are listed in which it does so. No employee listed on the management page lists an expertise in FOIA either. It is unclear what experience the company had in FOIA prior to the contract from Treasury.

Phacil has also posted a job listing on its own website for a specialist in FOIA citing an “immediate need a FOIA Analyst [sic] to support a very high-profile government customer in Washington D.C.” Included in the scope of the work is “Redacting or withholding agency records citing appropriate exemptions and generating response letters; and Responding to requestors concerning the agency’s disclosure determination by generating response letters.”

Even more unbelievably, among the qualifications requested is: “Use of FOIA/PA exemptions to withhold information from release to the public.”

But Phacil’s top executives weren’t always for withholding information from release to the public. In 2005, Phacil’s president Sascha Mornell submitted two FOI requests to the U.S. General Services Administration to request information about Booz Allen Hamilton’s subcontracting plan “including goals and commitments.” The requests were made on letterhead in June 2005.

A year prior, Phacil boasted of a partnership with Booz Allen. According to their site: “During this partnership, Booz Allen will provide strategy, infrastructure and operations support to Phacil as the company develops into a larger business. Booz Allen will also provide subcontracting opportunities and assistance with new business development activities to Phacil.” Undoubtedly learning about Booz Allen’s subcontracting plan via FOI was helpful in developing its relationship with the large government contractor.

In other words, while company heads have used FOI requests to their benefit to learn more about competitors and partners in government contracts, they are seeking to hire candidates that would be able to withhold information from release to the public.

Mornell could not be reached for comment.

This is the original: "Use of FOIA/PA exemptions to withhold information from release to the public":

Phacil FOIA Analyst description (original)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/40163844/Phacil-FOIA-Analyst-description-original

This is the modified version that was changed without notice: "Use of FOIA/PA exemptions to withhold information from release to the public that is considered classified, sensitive or falls outside of FOIA/PA guidelines."

Phacil FOIA Analyst description (modified)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/40164170/Phacil-FOIA-Analyst-description-modified

The change, however, does not appear on different iterations of the job advertisement on other sites (which we have also saved). Neither the Department of Treasury or Phacil have returned The Examiner's call for comment.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/treasury-hires-democrat-donors-to-be-freedom-of-information-act-analysts-105727838.html

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Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness / Dude?
« Reply #657 on: October 29, 2010, 08:19:22 AM »
Jon Stewart called him dude.  "You don't want to use that phrase, dude."  It took me quite a while to get the joke.  He was trying to say that Lawrence Summers (economic adviser while unemployment ran up to nearly 10%) did "a heck of a job".

Apparently that was the exact same phrase Bush used when his Katrina chief left and the show (I don't watch) made quite a theme out of it.

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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness
« Reply #658 on: October 29, 2010, 08:45:04 AM »
President Dude , , , well, at least he didn't bow to JS  , , ,


OPINION
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OCTOBER 28, 2010

 

A Referendum on the Redeemer

Barack Obama put the Democrats in the position of forever redeeming a
fallen nation rather than leading a great one.

 

By SHELBY STEELE
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Whether or not the Republicans win big next week, it is already clear
that the "transformative" aspirations of the Obama presidency-the
special promise of this first black president to "change" us into a
better society-are much less likely to materialize. There will be enough
Republican gains to make the "no" in the "party of no" even more
formidable, if not definitive.

 

But apart from this politics of numbers, there is also now a deepening
disenchantment with Barack Obama himself. (He has a meager 37% approval
rating by the latest Harris poll.) His embarrassed supporters console
themselves that their intentions were good; their vote helped make
history. But for Mr. Obama himself there is no road back to the charisma
and political capital he enjoyed on his inauguration day.

 
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How is it that Barack Obama could step into the presidency with an air
of inevitability and then, in less than two years, find himself
unwelcome at the campaign rallies of many of his fellow Democrats?

 

The first answer is well-known: His policymaking has been grandiose,
thoughtless and bullying. His health-care bill was ambitious to the
point of destructiveness and, finally, so chaotic that today no citizen
knows where they stand in relation to it. His financial-reform bill
seems little more than a short-sighted scapegoating of Wall Street. In
foreign policy he has failed to articulate a role for America in the
world. We don't know why we do what we do in foreign affairs. George W.
Bush at least made a valiant stab at an American
rationale-democratization-but with Mr. Obama there is nothing.

 

 

 

All this would be enough to explain the disillusionment with this
president-and with the Democratic Party that he leads. But there is also
a deeper disjunction. There is an "otherness" about Mr. Obama, the sense
that he is somehow not truly American. "Birthers" doubt that he was born
on American soil. Others believe that he is secretly a Muslim, or in
quiet simpatico with his old friends, Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Bill
Ayers, now icons of American radicalism.

 

But Barack Obama is not an "other" so much as he is a child of the
1960s. His coming of age paralleled exactly the unfolding of a new
"counterculture" American identity. And this new American identity-and
the post-1960s liberalism it spawned-is grounded in a remarkable irony:
bad faith in America as virtue itself, bad faith in the classic American
identity of constitutional freedom and capitalism as the way to a better
America. So Mr. Obama is very definitely an American, and he has a broad
American constituency. He is simply the first president we have seen
grounded in this counterculture American identity. When he bows to
foreign leaders, he is not displaying "otherness" but the counterculture
Americanism of honorable self-effacement in which America acknowledges
its own capacity for evil as prelude to engagement.

 

Bad faith in America became virtuous in the '60s when America finally
acknowledged so many of its flagrant hypocrisies: the segregation of
blacks, the suppression of women, the exploitation of other minorities,
the "imperialism" of the Vietnam War, the indifference to the
environment, the hypocrisy of puritanical sexual mores and so on. The
compounding of all these hypocrisies added up to the crowning idea of
the '60s: that America was characterologically evil. Thus the only way
back to decency and moral authority was through bad faith in America and
its institutions, through the presumption that evil was America's
natural default position.

 

Among today's liberal elite, bad faith in America is a sophistication, a
kind of hipness. More importantly, it is the perfect formula for
political and governmental power. It rationalizes power in the name of
intervening against evil-I will use the government to intervene against
the evil tendencies of American life (economic inequality, structural
racism and sexism, corporate greed, neglect of the environment and so
on), so I need your vote.

"Hope and Change" positioned Mr. Obama as a conduit between an old
America worn down by its evil inclinations and a new America redeemed of
those inclinations. There was no vision of the future in

 

"Hope and Change." It is an expression of bad faith in America, but its
great ingenuity was to turn that bad faith into political motivation,
into votes.

But there is a limit to bad faith as power, and Mr. Obama and the
Democratic Party may have now reached that limit. The great weakness of
bad faith is that it disallows American exceptionalism as a rationale
for power. It puts Mr. Obama and the Democrats in the position of
forever redeeming a fallen nation, rather than leading a great nation.
They bet on America's characterological evil and not on her sense of
fairness, generosity or ingenuity.

 

When bad faith is your framework (Michelle Obama never being proud of
her country until it supported her husband), then you become more a
national scold than a real leader. You lead out of a feeling that your
opposition is really only the latest incarnation of that old
characterological evil that you always knew was there. Thus the tea
party-despite all the evidence to the contrary-is seen as racist and
bigoted.

 

But isn't the tea party, on some level, a reaction to a president who
seems not to fully trust the fundamental decency of the American people?
Doesn't the tea party fill a void left open by Mr. Obama's ethos of bad
faith? Aren't tea partiers, and their many fellow travelers, simply
saying that American exceptionalism isn't racism? And if the mainstream
media see tea partiers as bumpkins and racists, isn't this just more bad
faith-characterizing people as ignorant or evil so as to dismiss them?

 

Our great presidents have been stewards, men who broadly identified with
the whole of America. Stewardship meant responsibility even for those
segments of America where one might be reviled. Surely Mr. Obama would
claim such stewardship. But he has functioned more as a redeemer than a
steward, a leader who sees a badness in us from which we must be
redeemed. Many Americans are afraid of this because a mandate as
grandiose as redemption justifies a vast expansion of government. A
redeemer can't just tweak and guide a faltering economy; he will need a
trillion- dollar stimulus package. He can't take on health care a step
at a time; he must do it all at once, finally mandating that every
citizen buy in.

 

Next week's election is, among other things, a referendum on the idea of
president-as- redeemer. We have a president so determined to transform
and redeem us from what we are that, by his own words, he is willing to
risk being a one-term president. People now wonder if Barack Obama can
pivot back to the center like Bill Clinton did after his set-back in
'94. But Mr. Clinton was already a steward, a policy wonk, a man of the
center. Mr. Obama has to change archetypes.

Mr. Steele is a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover
Institution.

 
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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness
« Reply #659 on: October 29, 2010, 10:03:40 AM »
"at least he didn't bow to [Jon Stewart]"  - Very Funny!!

"a deepening disenchantment with Barack Obama himself. (He has a meager 37% approvalrating by the latest  Harris poll"

That poll is a bit of outlier but approvals stuck in the 30s could be the norm as even his own side loses confidence in him.

I remember candidate John Kerry headed into this conundrum.  He needed to move to the center and be called a flip flopper or be too liberal to govern.  Obama needs to abandon leftist principles or preside over country in decline, which means his Presidency in decline.  There is no win there for him and it is something, unlike Clinton, that he has no skill or experience at doing.  He won't resign but the country might be better off with Joe Biden... :-(  :-o  :?  :x  :oops:  :|  ... who could at least hire an economist and wouldn't bat an eyelash about changing his small mind.

I have long contended that Obama has never read a book about economics that did not oppose our economic system.  Adviser Romer warned that looming tax increases would have a 'contractionary effect' on the economy already in the dumps.  Result?  She's gone.  Lawrence Summers knows some economics - gone.  Paul Volcker is highly respected in certain ways, especially in a fight against future spiraling inflation - never consulted.  Volcker needs to go through Valerie Jarrett to get to the President.

The public is not going to like the fight they are about to get between the new, energized house and the old, stuck on redistributionism administration.

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Lost in translation
« Reply #660 on: November 02, 2010, 03:21:18 PM »
Today the Obama administration attempted damage control over comments allegedly made by President Obama on Telemundo.  Press Secretary Robert Gibbs complained, “President Obama urged Latino voters to punish the Yemenis – not their political enemies.  Something got lost in translation.”


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Lack of self insight continues
« Reply #661 on: November 05, 2010, 08:25:33 AM »
Well this tells us what lies ahead.  It isn't his policies.  It was we were too stupid to know he is right.  Which is what he is saying when he says he just didn't (swindle) sell us his vision.  This is consistent with his personality defect.  It isn't him - he is smarter then us.   He knows what is best for us.  We just didn't get it.  He has to do better persauding us.  I won't be rested till this guy is run out of office in 12.
True personality DISORDERS - they can NEVER under any circumstance "get it" when it is about themselves.  This is true to form  He is one screwed up guy.  Unfortunately he is taking us all down with him.
 
****Obama Acknowledges Failures, Says ‘Leadership Isn’t Just Legislation’
November 5, 2010 9:56 AM

NEW YORK (CBS) — After a suffering a “shellacking” in the midterm elections, President Obama acknowledges what many have seen as his chief weakness – failing to sell the importance of several legislative milestones to the American people.

“I think that’s a fair argument. I think that, over the course of two years we were so busy and so focused on getting a bunch of stuff done that, we stopped paying attention to the fact that leadership isn’t just legislation. That it’s a matter of persuading people. And giving them confidence and bringing them together. And setting a tone,” Mr. Obama told 60 Minutes’ Steve Kroft in an exclusive interview set to air Sunday.

“Making an argument that people can understand,” Mr. Obama continued, “I think that we haven’t always been successful at that. And I take personal responsibility for that. And it’s something that I’ve got to examine carefully … as I go forward.”****

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« Reply #662 on: November 05, 2010, 10:13:15 AM »
“Making an argument that people can understand,” Mr. Obama continued, “I think that we haven’t always been successful at that. And I take personal responsibility for that. And it’s something that I’ve got to examine carefully … as I go forward.”

"we were too stupid to know he is right." - Yes, he is saying he needs to work on his talk-down-to-us skills.  We aren't all Ivy Leaguers. 
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Interest insight into Barack Obama from my radio, James Lilacs on the Hugh Hewitt show, goes something like this: 

All the great men who rose to be President all faced great setbacks along the way... and he named a few.  Obama however is the first President to ever have the first setback in his life be while he was President.
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Think about it, all that early family turmoil and he ends up in the best school in Hawaii living with loving grandparents.  Looks a little different than others so he gets into Columbia.  Ordinary grades and blows coke, gets into Harvard law School.  Can't write a lick without a script, is chosen Editor of the Law Review.  Runs for State Senate, gets his opponent removed. Runs for a US Senate in a hard blue state, gets Alan Keyes from elsewhere as an opponent.  Speaks at the convention, brings down the house.  "Harry, I have a gift", he said afterward to the majority leader. Enters the Presidential fray before authoring a bill or casting a vote, beats Hillary Clinton, Gov/Ambassador Bill Richardson and all the others.  Starts to get close in the general election and the world financial system falls down on his opponents, beats the former media darling McCain.  Needs a 60th vote in the senate to pass health care, ACORN compatriots come through raising Al Franken from second place to first in a recount.  Loses his 60th vote with Scott Brown, but deems it passed after the fact. No problem. ... Then they promise and declare that the healthcare in spite of the steamroller tactics will be loved and its supporters will be loved.  As far as we knew then, he was right, but he wasn't.

Lifting the veil.  Now he had two wars lingering too long.  Promised negotiations on CSPAN became cornhusker kickbacks hidden in private.  Unemployment will be 8% if we don't pass the stimulus became 10% with it.  All the political opportunism against Bush over Katrina started to become Obama's oil spill.  His own daughter couldn't understand why he wouldn't command the resources of the greatest country on earth and plug the hole.  Instead he sat powerless while private engineers at a big-oil firm eventually did it.

Alinsky-economics is false.  Krugman and Keynes are wrong.  No amount of gift of gab can change that but it didn't matter because his gift of gab was still aimed at destroying the pillars of our economy, not building them back up.

I honestly hope he does an about face, but there is nothing whatsoever in view to believe that.

I think it sounded bad but Obama was put on notice when Mitch McConnell said defeating this President is a top priority.  A change of direction is going to come out of the House in the form of legislation, and then presumably die in the senate.  Republicans will need just 3 or 4 Dem Senators from red states up for re-election to sign on to make legislation popular and bipartisan while it dies of the filibuster obstruction or the veto pen.

Obama has never been in this situation before.  He can veto to stop a Republican agenda, but he cannot lead or win.

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Don’t need a Weatherman to know Obama’s not happy to see Bernardine Dohrn pop her head up again
By Jim Treacher | Published: 12:39 PM 11/05/2010 | Updated: 12:55 PM 11/05/2010


Here’s the “former” radical, explaining to Newsclick India why you’re the crazy one:


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/05/dont-need-a-weatherman-to-know-obamas-not-happy-to-see-bernardine-dohrn-pop-her-head-up-again/#ixzz14QpTmq7w

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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness
« Reply #664 on: November 05, 2010, 11:31:52 AM »
"I think it sounded bad but Obama was put on notice when Mitch McConnell said defeating this President is a top priority" 
From a MSM perseprctive this if fodder for them to go after republicans.  But we repubs know this IS EXACTLY right.  We have to get rid of this guy once and for all.No compromise no prisoners.
"I honestly hope he does an about face, but there is nothing whatsoever in view to believe that."
Doug, I disagree with you.  Like Rush I hope this guy fails.  We don't want him to pull a Clinton and stay popular.  We need him to stay like he is AND fail.  He must be stopped.  I posted that I am worried the Repubs will be called the party of "NO" like Clinton did to NEWT and Truman did to them in '48 thus almost dooming them.
But now I see a better way.  Although he is not the only one saying it I like that THIS is coming from Clinton's own triangulation guy Dick Morris.  The architect of the Clinton comback now nicely illuminates the path for Republicans.  And that is not to be the party of do nothings but the party of better ideas and plans and policies.  They can set their agenda and make Bamster say no.

But I admit they will be walking on hot coals.  The stakes and the pitfalls are plenty.  I and you are already seeing the MSM go after all the conservatives like viper snakes trying to get a rat.  Have you noticed the MSM pundits going after their conservative guests about their deficit cutting talk. Asking them OK where are you going to "cut" . JUst say it!  You want to cut Medicare Soc Sec!!  The the crats can use this as a rallying cry to win back seniors etc.  But the point is that SS and Medicare do need reforming.  Do the Repubs have the courage to tell the people the truth?  Do they dare?
The MSM seems to want them to.  They seem to want them to in their mind commit political suicide.  But Americans when faced with the truth I hope at least are smarter than that. 

Anyway I digress:

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« HEARTFELT THANKS AND FINAL REPORTTHIS TIME, TRIANGULATION’S NOT AN OPTION
By Dick Morris And Eileen McGann11.4.2010Share this article
 
Published in the New York Post on November 4, 2010

Now that President Obama has experienced the same baptism of fire as President Bill Clinton did in the 1994 midterm elections, the obvious question is: Will he move to the center in a bid to save his presidency and win re-election?

The move worked well for Clinton: He sought to combine the best aspects of each party’s program in a third approach that became known as triangulation.


But Obama won’t follow suit because he can’t, even if he wants to. Today’s issues are different from those that separated the parties in 1994 and don’t lend themselves to common ground.

Obama’s programs have been so far-reaching and fundamental that any compromise would leave the nation far to the left of where it’s always been and wants to be. When he took office, government (federal, state and local combined) controlled 35 percent of the US economy — 15th among the two-dozen advanced countries. Now, it controls 44.7 percent, ranking us 7th, ahead of Germany and Britain. So where’s the compromise — leave government in control of, say, 40 percent?

Add the overriding need for sharp deficit reduction, to bring down the debt before it strangles our economy.

Republicans are pushing to begin this by rolling back spending to pre-Obama levels. The alternative would be to raise taxes to pay the bills run up by the Democratic Congress that the voters just repudiated. Yet even partly covering that tab would lock in a government that big — hoarding capital, pouncing on all available credit and taking away such a major portion of national income — would be anathema to our free-enterprise system.

Yet a zero tax-hike policy will require budget cuts that Obama and the left will find unacceptable.

Even with some tax hikes, the slashes in social spending needed to start reducing the debt will also preclude a search for middle ground.

What triangulation is possible on health care? The fundamental building block of Obama’s program is the individual mandate to buy insurance. Absent that, all that’s left is a consumer-protection bill that limits insurance-company practices. Yet the mandate can’t be scaled back but still preserved: It’s either in place or it isn’t. There’s no middle ground.

On “cap and trade,” the other major pillar of Obama’s secular temple, either we tax carbon, or we don’t. The left will deride any program without coercion or tax increases (even though the evidence suggests that voluntary measures are bringing down our carbon emissions nicely). Again, faced with a choice between a tax and no tax, there’s no middle ground.

We can easily see how far Obama has moved off the center of gravity of the American people by measuring his losses in the House. If Republicans stick to their principles and pass their programs in the House, they’ll set forth an agenda that the nation can follow. If they compromise to suit Obama’s big-government objectives, they’ll muddy the waters, antagonize their energetic base and provide no clear alternative to his socialism.

It’s time for bold, clear contrasts. It’s not 1994.****


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« Reply #665 on: November 05, 2010, 11:43:04 AM »
Right now, it's best to not discuss entitlements until after 2012. We have hard choices to make and an economy to rescue, if possible. We start by making major cuts to the federal government. Dept. of Education, Energy, NEA gone. Anything not required for national security, borders. Gone. Defund NPR and not one penny for Obamacare or the states. We can salvage the dollar if we demonstrate that the US is serious about fixing these issues. Obama won't triangulate. He doesn't have it in him.

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It's all Rahm's fault!
« Reply #666 on: November 05, 2010, 11:45:30 AM »

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« Reply #667 on: November 05, 2010, 12:00:35 PM »
What I meant by hoping Obama does an about face is that the center of the Democrat party needs to move right.  Obviously Obama won't but someone needs to.  If he says or does one or two things right, it is a head fake - like expanded offshore drilling, deficit concern etc.

The blamed Rahm for leaving, not for giving bad advice while he was there.  Amazing.

Thanks for the Bernardine Dohrn video, my first experience seeing and hearing her.  Outrageous that someone would accuse him of 'palling around with terrorists', lol.  Easy to see Obama enjoying a talk about strategy or economics with her, agreeing privately with everything she says.  He should hide Valerie Jarrett too if he wants his inner political thoughts concealed.

You know they are left wing when they think the media is right wing controlled.

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« Reply #668 on: November 05, 2010, 01:57:48 PM »
"Right now, it's best to not discuss entitlements until after 2012"

I agree it is politically risky at this time. 

GM,
Do you think a candidate running for the Presidency in 12 should be "candid" with Americans about the need for reform as part of their policy platform?

Doesn't someone eventually have to level with us? 

I don't know what is the best strategy.

My thought about the Dept of Ed is I think some see even this as an "entitlement".
The MSM always speak of this as though it is sacred.

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« Reply #669 on: November 05, 2010, 02:31:42 PM »
Education is a local level issue. We need to explain to the public that the money that comes from the Dept. of Ed is actually the money taken from them, run through Washington and then a much smaller portion comes back to them. If you get DC out of the equation, you'll actually have more money for your local schools. There are roles for the federal gov't, education isn't one of them.

Anything said about social security will be used to panic seniors. So the other option is to keep Obama in office for a second term and really end social security when our economy is utterly destroyed.

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« Reply #670 on: November 05, 2010, 03:00:20 PM »
"not to be the party of do nothings but the party of better ideas and plans and policies.  They can set their agenda and make Bamster say no."

EXACTLY SO!!!


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« Reply #671 on: November 06, 2010, 07:21:00 AM »
Rarick,  You are probably right.

For a laugh the Indians are shocked to find Bamster uses a teleprompter. :-)  Where is that little squirt Anderson Cooper keeping Bamster honest about his use of a script.
The MSM had no problem going after Sarah with cribb notes on her hand yet almost no poking fun at THIER hero in chief about his "cheating" when he speaks:

Obama to use teleprompter for Hindi speech
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New Delhi, November 06, 2010First Published: 13:27 IST(6/11/2010)
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Namaste India! In all likelihood that will be silver-tongued Barack Obama's opening line when he addresses the Indian parliament next week. But to help him pronounce Hindi words correctly will be a teleprompter which the US president uses ever so often for his hypnotising speeches.

According to parliament sources, a technical team from the US has helped the Lok Sabha secretariat install textbook-sized panes of glass around the podium that will give cues to Obama on his prepared remarks to 780 Indian MPs on the evening of Nov 8.

It will be a 20-minute speech at Parliament House's Central Hall that has been witness to some historic events, including first prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru's "tryst with destiny" speech when India became independent.

Obama will make history for more than one reason during the Nov 6-9 visit. This will be the first time a teleprompter will be used in the nearly 100-feet high dome-shaped hall that has portraits of eminent national leaders adorning its walls.

Indian politicians are known for making impromptu long speeches and perhaps that is why some parliament officials, who did not wish to be named, sounded rather surprised with the idea of a teleprompter for Obama.

"We thought Obama is a trained orator and skilled in the art of mass address with his continuous eye contact," an official, who did not wish to be identified because of security restrictions, said.

Obama is known to captivate audiences with his one-liners that sound like extempore and his deep gaze. But few in India know that the US president always carries the teleprompter with him wherever he speaks.

Teleprompters, also called autocue or telescript, are mostly used by TV anchors to read out texts scrolling on a screen and attached to a camera in front of them.

Parliament officials have had a busy week preparing for a red carpet welcome for Obama and his wife Michelle. Parliament House these days looks fresh with a new coat of paint, new carpeting and new green plants in mud vases decorating the corridors.

Sources said the Obamas will pose for a photograph with Indian leaders at one of the three well laid-out courtyards that have lush green lawns and fountains.

On the dais in the Central Hall will be Lok Sabha Speaker Meira Kumar, Vice President Hamid Ansari and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

The sources said the event will be an hour-long affair and will start with Ansari's welcome address and end with a vote of thanks by Meira Kumar after the US president's address.

The Obamas would sign the Golden Book, the visitor's diary in parliament, before leaving the eight-decade old building.

"Thank god they won't eat anything or have tea or coffee from our canteen. We would have to go through a tough security drill otherwise," quipped an employee.

Security managers in parliament also had a tough job for the high profile visit even as the house is already highly protected following a terrorist attack in 2001.

A team of US security officials, including from the CIA, were in the Indian capital and visited the complex to review security measures to be taken during the parliament event.

Parliament security officials have decided that barring special invitees and former MPs, no visitor would be allowed inside when Obama addresses the MPs.

Only journalists who have permanent radio-frequency passes would be allowed inside the Central Hall to cover the event.


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Another bow
« Reply #672 on: November 11, 2010, 08:40:17 AM »
Pasted here for its picture of our President bowing yet again, this time to the Chinese.  The backdrop gives a clue as to when and where.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jeremywarner/100008581/china-may-be-bigger-economy-than-us-within-two-years/

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« Reply #673 on: November 11, 2010, 10:39:18 AM »

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« Reply #674 on: November 11, 2010, 10:41:32 AM »
You'll never catch him bowing before a copy of the constitution or a picture of the founding fathers.

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But Why?
« Reply #675 on: November 11, 2010, 11:01:35 AM »
The reason for this is not explained.  Has anyone asked him why he does this?

The Chinese man in the picture is not doing it.  It is not a reciprocal greeting/gesture.

Contrast this to a segment on cable one night some months back that showed Netanyahu and Arafat fighting between them trying to get the other one to go first through a door.  It went on for a minute or two.  Going through the door first is interpreted as a sign of weakness.  The other person is controlling "you" by letting you go first.  So they made a big thing out of it - or the appearance of it.    Or Bush W standing in just the right spot in order to properly shake hands or touch or be photographed with heads of state so as to not show weakness.   Now we have this.  Our leader is going out of his way to cave in.  Why wouldn't our youth not be ashamed of our country? 

I am embarrased at him.

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« Reply #676 on: November 11, 2010, 11:21:55 AM »
Not that Obama doesn't appreciate the sacrifices of veterans. He absolutely does. Just ask the Indonesians.

He was in Jakarta for their Heroes Day this week to honor their veterans "who have sacrificed on behalf of this great country."

"This great country," of course, being Indonesia.

"When my stepfather was a boy, he watched his own father and older brother leave home to fight and die in the struggle for Indonesian independence," Obama told the audience.

And the White House wonders why so many people think there is something foreign about this guy.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/bam_awol_on_vets_day_IxEoyioHbtjAsNjGmbZoIP#ixzz150GLSO6H

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« Reply #677 on: November 11, 2010, 01:41:07 PM »
The reason for this is not explained.  Has anyone asked him why he does this?

I am embarrased at him.

Could it be as simple as Barack Obama being 6'1" tall and Hu Jintao being less than 5'8" tall?
Shake hands with someone 5+ inches shorter than you.  And keep your distance (it is a conference in Asia).
It's not easy to keep a level head.

I doubt if there is anything sinister, inappropriate or subservient going on here.

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« Reply #678 on: November 11, 2010, 02:33:28 PM »
"Could it be as simple as Barack Obama being 6'1" tall and Hu Jintao being less than 5'8" tall?"

Short answer - no.

But if you want to come up with a ridiculous explanation than I guess Bamster could be admiring the Chinese guy's shoes.

How do you say, "man, those are cool shoes" in Chinese?

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« Reply #679 on: November 11, 2010, 02:43:53 PM »
"Short answer"  :-D

As for those shoes,
Let me check later; my wife just for fun is studying Chinese at the local community college.
Who knows, we may all need to know Chinese one day.
 :-)

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« Reply #680 on: November 11, 2010, 05:03:18 PM »
"we may all need to know Chinese one day"

Yes.  At least count in yen. :lol:

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« Reply #681 on: November 11, 2010, 05:24:05 PM »

Translator for Obama: "Tia na zhe shuang xie zhen ku".

Hu Jintao responds "Cao ni ma."

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« Reply #682 on: November 11, 2010, 05:27:03 PM »

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« Reply #683 on: November 11, 2010, 05:39:21 PM »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U6fL7Y4BZA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Pathetic.

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« Reply #684 on: November 11, 2010, 06:50:25 PM »
Do you have the one of him bowing to the mayor of some town in Florida?

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« Reply #685 on: November 11, 2010, 07:13:29 PM »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKeE4dFqmiE[/youtube]

Buffoon.

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« Reply #686 on: November 11, 2010, 08:42:32 PM »
"we may all need to know Chinese one day"

Nihongo wakarimaska? (Nihongo ga wakarimasu ka) 日本語

JDN, It wasn't Chinese that everyone was going to need in international business just a moment ago.

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« Reply #687 on: November 12, 2010, 06:26:49 AM »
"we may all need to know Chinese one day"

Nihongo wakarimaska? (Nihongo ga wakarimasu ka) 日本語

JDN, It wasn't Chinese that everyone was going to need in international business just a moment ago.

Hai, Nihongo ga dekimasu. Demo Chuugokugo muzukashii! 
Doug san wa?

I've been told I'm not a very good comedian.  I was joking.  I really don't know why Obama was bent over
at the waist; maybe CCP is right, maybe Hu Jintau's shoes are cool?   :-)

But with all our myriad problems, i.e. the deficit, our economy, taxes, health, immigration, etc. whether Obama bows before
the Mayor of Tampa or the Pope himself, or just bends over a little to shake hands with some short Chinese guy with cool shoes,
or trips coming out of a plane, or fights and argues about going through a door first or second isn't too important to me. 

I don't care if he begins to solve our monumental problems standing, bending, or sitting, but I do wish he would begin to solve them.
And I don't mean simply pouring more money on the problem.

I can't even afford to go visit Japan because our dollar is so deep in the toilet.   :-(

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« Reply #688 on: November 12, 2010, 06:35:48 AM »
Who could have foreseen that his presidency would be such a disaster?

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« Reply #689 on: November 12, 2010, 08:47:15 AM »
JDN,

Obama's groveling and bowing are just a visible indicator of his incompetence as president. If you've bothered to watch http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/04/13/obama_bows_to_chinese_president_hu_jintao.html you've seen that he did indeed bow.

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« Reply #690 on: November 12, 2010, 08:58:09 AM »
Various rumors floating around Chicago that community organizer Obama was a switch hitter. Perhaps he's bowing to better check out the bowee's package.

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« Reply #691 on: November 12, 2010, 10:28:37 AM »
Korea: Too Green for Democrats
Obama discovers the downside of environmental regulation.

The Bush administration negotiated and signed a free-trade agreement with South Korea in 2007, but enough members of Congress found the deal unacceptable that it was never ratified. For years it gathered dust as Candidate and then President Obama paid lip service to the idea of renegotiating it, all the while claiming to share his colleagues’ concern that it did not do enough to open Korea’s markets to U.S. automobiles and U.S. beef. He announced the goal of having a new deal negotiated and signed by this month’s G-20 summit, now under way in Seoul.

You might have heard that he failed.

Do you want to know why? This one is actually funny.

Korea used to be one of the most protected automobile markets in the world. But it has gradually done away with most of the high tariffs and import restrictions that shut out foreign cars and trucks. An 8 percent tariff on cars and a 10 percent tariff on trucks remain, but the U.S.-Korea Free Trade Agreement would remove them immediately with respect to U.S. cars and trucks. As for our own markets, the ratification of the agreement would require us to immediately remove a 2.5 percent tariff on Korean cars, but would give us ten years to phase out a 25 percent tariff on Korean trucks. So it seems like Detroit is getting the better of this deal. What’s not to like?

Here’s the punch line: U.S. automakers, their unions, and their allies in government — including most Democrats and Barack Obama — think Korea’s fuel-economy and environmental standards are too high. They are arguing that these standards act as a non-tariff barrier to cars and trucks made in U.S. factories, because, gosh darn it, we just don’t make cars and trucks that clean and green over here.

Americans who favor free trade abroad and less regulation at home are left to scratch our heads: Should we be angry because Obama is holding up a market-opening agreement over such an obvious red herring? It’s the only excuse he has for wanting an even more one-sided deal for the Detroit automakers, who want the car tariff to be phased out gradually, like the truck tariff. Or should we be popping champagne corks because Obama has finally found an environmental regulation he doesn’t like?

All this time, the Democrats have told us that one of the biggest reasons they object to trade liberalization is that it causes countries to engage in a “race to the bottom,” particularly when it comes to labor and environmental standards. In 2007, U.S. trade ambassador Susan Schwab cut a deal with Democrats in Congress in which she agreed to incorporate every single one of their demands for labor and environmental standards into four new trade agreements: deals with Peru, Panama, Colombia, and Korea. But only the Peru deal got a vote. Democrats reneged on the other three, inventing new concerns after Schwab addressed their old ones.

But seriously, reflect on the absurdity of their complaint about the Korea deal. Korean environmental standards are too high? Next thing you know they’ll be objecting to a trade deal because the country in question just doesn’t have enough sweatshops.

In the world of international trade, non-tariff barriers are a real concern. Korea’s restrictions on U.S. beef imports probably have a lot less to do with fears about mad cow disease than with mad farmer disease — a phenomenon I witnessed first-hand in the streets of Hong Kong in 2005. We do not allay such fears or improve our moral standing when those representing us at the negotiating table are engaged in such obvious hypocrisy. If the administration’s message is incoherent, it’s because the administration is not negotiating from a set of principles, but from an industry wish list.

The auto industry has already gotten enough help from this administration. How about some help for the rest of us now, in the form of a free-trade deal that would increase U.S. GDP by an estimated $10 billion to $12 billion per year? Obama talks a lot about all the bad things he inherited from his predecessor. But the U.S.-Korea deal was just fine the way he found it. If he can get Korea to loosen its emissions restrictions, then all to the good, say we free-marketeers. Maybe his next triumph could be to loosen them here.

If not, then he should drop his hypocritical objections to the deal and sign it. It would be nice to have a little economic stimulus that our kids won’t have to pay back, with interest, someday.

– Stephen Spruiell is an NR staff reporter.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/253161/korea-too-green-democrats-stephen-spruiell

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« Reply #692 on: November 12, 2010, 03:01:31 PM »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDX46Y2w9a8&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]


Anyone surprised to hear this?

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American Narcissus
« Reply #693 on: November 13, 2010, 07:28:54 PM »
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/american-narcissus_516686.html?page=1

American Narcissus
The vanity of Barack Obama
Nov 13, 2010, Vol. 16, No. 10 • By JONATHAN V. LAST


Why has Barack Obama failed so spectacularly? Is he too dogmatically liberal or too pragmatic? Is he a socialist, or an anticolonialist, or a philosopher-president? Or is it possible that Obama’s failures stem from something simpler: vanity. Politicians as a class are particularly susceptible to mirror-gazing. But Obama’s vanity is overwhelming. It defines him, his politics, and his presidency.

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Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness
« Reply #694 on: November 13, 2010, 10:16:42 PM »
If I read this correctly, Obama was arguing on behalf of Big Auto which is partly US government owned that a foreign nation Korea should LOWER its emissions standards to accept American cars.  But at home he wants to shut down those same companies from building those same cars BECAUSE of emissions with Cap Trade legislation, Kyoto targets, energy taxes, EPA rulings, etc.  Unbelievable.

Maybe a little bipolar is mixed with the narcissism identified in the previous post?

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« Reply #695 on: November 16, 2010, 06:51:53 AM »
Obama Caves on Civilian Trial for KSM
It turns out indefinite detention isn’t so bad after all.

Let’s review the state of play, shall we?

Throughout the 2008 presidential campaign, candidate Barack Obama blasted the Bush administration’s decision to treat al-Qaeda terrorists as enemy combatants and detain them without trial at Guantanamo Bay. Now, two years into his presidency, Obama has decided to treat al-Qaeda terrorists as enemy combatants and detain them without trial at Guantanamo Bay.

The media is reporting that the administration will hold Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the other 9/11 plotter indefinitely, granting them neither a civilian nor a military trial. This determination, leaked over the weekend, appears to be a rebuff of Attorney General Eric Holder, who had intimated a few days earlier that a civilian prosecution was imminent.

Here’s the difference between Presidents Bush and Obama: The former’s strategy was driven by weighty national-security concerns and maintained despite ceaseless condemnation from the Obama Left. Obama’s strategy — or, more accurately, his drift — is driven by naked political concerns, and his base’s media megaphone has gone nearly silent.

After the most devastating attack ever carried out on American soil by a foreign enemy, President Bush determined that the Clinton administration’s preferred strategy of treating al-Qaeda as a mere law-enforcement problem had been unserious. The criminal-justice system is tailored to address ordinary crimes committed in peacetime America. It is designed to favor the defendants: Americans are presumed innocent and armed by the Constitution with protections that, quite intentionally, make it difficult for the government to investigate, prosecute, convict, and incarcerate. By itself, civilian justice is incapable of neutralizing wartime enemies. Unlike everyday crooks, foreign terrorists operate from overseas redoubts where American law does not apply, where foreign regimes like Iran and the Taliban are only too happy to abet them.

This is not hypothesis; it is our experience. The Clinton Justice Department indicted Osama bin Laden himself in June 1998. He responded by orchestrating, with impunity, the August 1998 embassy bombings in eastern Africa, the October 2000 Cole bombing, and the 9/11 attacks. Al-Qaeda’s onslaught was a war, not a crime wave. President Bush was hardly alone in thinking so: Congress overwhelming authorized combat operations against al-Qaeda, and it has continued to authorize and fund them for nearly a decade. Combat operations necessarily imply not only the killing of enemy combatants but their capture and detention, with the corollary of military-commission trials for those who have committed provable war crimes.

The Bush strategy has worked. Its detractors among self-styled “human-rights activists” — who seem far more concerned about the humans doing the killing than the humans doing the dying — point to the spotty record of commission trials in contending otherwise. But commissions constitute only a small element of the Bush approach, and doubtless the least important one.

The Bush strategy’s key components are twofold. First: Kill, capture, and defund terrorists overseas, thereby denying them safe haven and taking them out before they can act. Second: Detain those who have been captured both to maximize the potential for acquiring fresh intelligence and to thin out the ranks of highly trained jihadists. The enemy may be able to replace terrorists who have been captured or killed, but the new recruits cannot replicate their level of competence.

It is a sad fact that the tireless, heroic work of our military continues without our paying it much mind. It is thus common for Americans to look at all our patent vulnerabilities — subway systems, power grids, sports stadiums, etc. — and wonder: “Why haven’t there been more 9/11s?” But this is no mystery. Dead and detained jihadists cannot execute attacks. A terror network worried about drone strikes on its training camps does not have the luxury of taking the months it takes to plan and execute significant plots. Fresh intelligence from high-level captives disrupts plots in addition to making it extraordinarily difficult for al-Qaeda to embed capable cells in our homeland.

While President Obama has gradually and grudgingly made the Bush strategy his own, he lacks the grace to say so, much less to give his predecessor credit. But it is remarkable to consider how far Obama has come. In June 2008, with the campaign in high gear, he ripped Bush, complaining that

in previous terrorist attacks [such as] the first attack against the World Trade Center, we were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial. They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated. And the fact that the administration has not tried to do that has created a situation where not only have we never actually put many of these folks on trial, but we have destroyed our credibility when it comes to rule of law all around the world.
This critique was astonishing in its ignorance. In most previous terrorist attacks, we had not been able to arrest those responsible — they had been able to keep attacking. Even in the one example Obama cited, the 1993 WTC bombing, several of those responsible were able to flee because civilian due-process protections made it impossible to hold them. Some were never apprehended — and KSM, who was complicit in the WTC bombing and several subsequent plots, was finally captured thanks to wartime operations, not law-enforcement protocols.

Moreover, detaining enemy combatants without trial is entirely consistent with the “rule of law” that applies in wartime. Indeed, the Obama Justice Department has found itself making just this argument, albeit without fanfare. In short, indefinite detention at Gitmo “destroyed our credibility” only with Bush-deranged leftists — and isn’t it amazing how credulous they’ve suddenly become now that their guy is accountable?

In his conclusion, candidate Obama leveled the charge — oft-repeated but mindless — that Bush counterterrorism had “given a huge boost to terrorist recruitment in [Islamic] countries that say, ‘Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims.’” Let’s put aside the now-familiar Obama crotchet that gives Muslim sensibilities pride of place over American security concerns. The brute fact is: Obama is treating Muslim terrorists the same way Bush did. Given that, is it too much to ask the president finally to acknowledge that terrorist recruitment is driven by Islamist ideology? The legal theory by which a president justifies the indefinite detention of terrorists is beside the point.

For those who maintain that our president is a pragmatist and not an ideologue, worth pondering is Obama’s ideological intransigence, and how it has bred incompetence. If, back in January 2009, Obama had just let the then-pending military commission go forward, KSM and his cohorts would likely have been executed by now. They had announced their intention to plead guilty and proceed to sentencing. Allowing that, however, would effectively have meant endorsing military commissions and, by extension, Bush counterterrorism. So the new president interrupted the proceedings and dangled before KSM the stage the terrorist had always craved: a civilian trial just a few blocks from Broadway.

The public revolted, prompting bipartisan congressional opposition. Meantime, the president came to realize that, regardless of his purple campaign rhetoric, many committed jihadists could not be tried in civilian court and would kill Americans if released. His law-enforcement framework was impractical: He would have to detain al-Qaeda captives indefinitely or find another way to try them. Consequently, he kept Gitmo open despite having promised to close it; and, with an assist from congressional Democrats, he made a few cosmetic tweaks in the military-commission system in order to camouflage the inconvenient truth that it was substantially the same commission system proposed by Bush and endorsed by Congress in 2006.

But while Obama preserved military commissions, he didn’t actually want to use them. Had he used them, and had terrorists promptly started being convicted and severely sentenced, public opposition to the civilian prosecutions beloved by his base would have stiffened. So now there is one obvious right thing to do: Give KSM and the 9/11 plotters the military commission and execution they should have had almost two years ago. Yet, Obama can’t bring himself to do it.

Instead, the man who claimed that indefinite detention without trial “destroyed our credibility” will indefinitely detain the terrorists without trial — at least until after the 2012 election, when either they will be some other president’s headache or electoral politics will no longer weigh on Obama. That’s change you can believe in.

— Andrew C. McCarthy, a senior fellow at the National Review Institute, is the author, most recently, of The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/253356/obama-caves-civilian-trial-ksm-andrew-c-mccarthy#

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Glibness: the Inattentive Student of Gandhi
« Reply #696 on: November 18, 2010, 12:37:47 PM »
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/11/obama_the_inattentive_student.html

Obama, the Inattentive Student of Gandhi

On his recent trip to India, President Obama was lavish in his praise for Mahatma Gandhi. Obama maintained that Gandhi's message of being "the change we seek in the world" was instrumental in inspiring his own journey from community organizer to President of the United States. "I might not be standing here today," said the president, had it not been for the Great Soul's influence.

Knowing, however, that Gandhi's political philosophy included highly persuasive polemics against big government, the welfare state, foreign aid, affirmative action, identity politics, divisive rhetoric, and malice toward one's opponents, it's hard to imagine the president devoting much time as a student in quiet and humble contemplation with the great guru's writings.

Gandhi, for example, would have lasted about twenty seconds in Rev. Jeremiah Wright's Trinity "United" Church in Chicago. On the other hand, Barack Obama and his family dutifully attended Wright's church for twenty years. Wright's racially divisive theology of "liberation" would have constituted for Gandhi a direct assault on one of the main pillars of his own political philosophy: "liberation," or swaraj.

While swaraj literally means "independence," for Gandhi, the term was much more importantly associated with intense self-examination and self-mastery. True freedom, according to Gandhi, meant an inward journey of liberation from the kind of anger, fear, and hatred that served only to perpetuate cycles of domination and division in society.

Gandhi argued, for example, that national liberation from the British would actually create a more harmful situation in India if the new Hindu political class failed to cleanse themselves of longstanding resentments and ill will. Gandhi understood quite rightly that the internal "weaknesses and failures" that might continue to animate the new rulers "would then be buttressed up by the accession of power."   

It's quite impossible, in other words, to conjure up a picture of Gandhi unleashing the kind of unbridled rhetoric ("I don't mind cleaning up after them, but don't do a lot of talking") that President Obama has often used to characterize his own conservative countrymen. In addition, when the president advised Hispanic voters to think of the recent election as an opportunity to "punish our enemies" and "reward our friends," he was giving painful evidence to the suspicion that someone other than Gandhi had in fact inspired his own run for the White House.

Swaraj is also the reason why Gandhi was deeply suspicious of big government. Gandhi saw an inverse relationship between disciplined self-mastery and the need for the welfare state. Indeed, the Bhagavad-Gita -- Hinduism's holiest scripture -- is a beautifully arranged set of eighteen sermons by the avatar Krishna to the warrior Arjuna on the philosophical intricacies of self-control, or yoga, which forms the basis of an individual's moral and spiritual progress. Said Gandhi:

    I look upon an increase of the power of the state with the greatest fear, because although while apparently doing good by minimizing exploitation, it does the greatest harm to mankind by destroying individuality, which lies at the root of all progress.

Gandhi observed that while individuals have souls, the state is "a soulless machine" that "represent violence in a concentrated and organized form." Rather than rely on the state, then, to redistribute wealth and reduce inequality, Gandhi proposed what he called "trusteeship." Trusteeship meant persuading the affluent to think of their wealth as something held in trust for the indigent poor. Again, Gandhi was trying to couple the freedom inherent in Hindu philosophy with the faith in a man's ability to master and overcome his often self-centered proclivities: "We know of so many cases where men have adopted trusteeship, but none where the State has really lived for the poor."

The great Gandhi scholar Dr. Dennis Dalton, who taught for years at Columbia University, has said that when Gandhi used the term "welfare for all," he meant "economic justice and equal opportunity, not dependency on the welfare system as we know it in America." [Emphasis added.] Professor Dalton adds:

    Gandhi's idealism is usually associated with compassion and charity, but in his appeal to discipline and hard work there is an undeniable strain of what we might call ‘Yankee individualism.'  He identified with the gospel of self-reliance in the philosophy of two of the Americans that he admired most, Thoreau and Emerson.


For Gandhi, the dangers of welfare-state dependency extended beyond individuals to nations as well. To those advocating global wealth redistribution, Gandhi made the quite startling observation that a nation that accepts economic aid succeeds only in crippling itself:

    There is nothing more degrading for a country than to beg from others when it cannot meet its requirements.  It is a practical principle that if you want to be friends with someone and you want the friendship to endure, you should not seek economic aid from them.

Like all of history's great moralists from Aristotle to Kant, Gandhi recognized that the source of benevolent moral relationships included both freedom and a healthy sense of personal responsibility. Gandhi's fear of welfare-state dependency was remarkably similar to the concern Adam Smith had about the bureaucratic state "pushing too far" and destroying the basis for human benevolence. "Beneficence is always free," said Smith. "t cannot be extorted by force."

In addition, swaraj was also the reason why Gandhi objected to the affirmative action and quota policies that many social reformers were advocating for India's untouchables back in the 1930s. Gandhi was strikingly clairvoyant in his belief that quota policies -- such as reserved legislative seats and separate electorates -- would serve only to inflame identity politics and perpetuate the bondage of the untouchables.
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In sum, Gandhi argued that Western socialism is predicated upon a entirely dismal view of human potential compared with Hinduism, which holds that free individuals had the capacity to "respond to the spirit" within them and rise above the petty forces of bitterness and self-indulgence.

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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness
« Reply #697 on: November 18, 2010, 02:12:56 PM »
"Gandhi, for example, would have lasted about twenty seconds in Rev. Jeremiah Wright's Trinity "United" Church in Chicago"

 Bamster, you may have been given the Nobel Peace Prize but you are no Ghandi.  :wink:

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Glibness and Russia
« Reply #698 on: November 26, 2010, 09:32:06 AM »
Noted from recent posts and news elsewhere that Obama to give our missile defense to Russia met with Medvedev, while China to change trade relations with Russia met with Putin.  I'm sure that Obama is smarter (sarcasm disclosure) and that Medvedev will hold the power to keep an agreement after Putin is long gone.

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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of His Glibness
« Reply #699 on: November 26, 2010, 09:36:32 AM »
CCP from Israel post: "About the only time this President of ours is passionate is when he is pleading the Muslim cause, the minority cause, anything anti - white, pro - muslim, or anything anti American."

When he finally used the term "enemy" it was to describe his political opponents relationship to Hispanic voters for wanting our country defined with legal, enforced borders.