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China: Hong Kong Govt Announce New Banning Masks
« Reply #900 on: October 03, 2019, 08:23:58 AM »
Previously, New Anthem of Hong Kong introduced:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=138&v=0ZUtV9NsikM
Creepy and telling that it is performed by masked musicians.
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https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3031399/hong-kong-government-announce-new-law-banning-masks-during

Are they going to arrest a million masked protesters?  Do the protests end or do they spread?

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China displays new hypersonic nuclear missile on 70th anniversary
« Reply #901 on: October 03, 2019, 06:33:07 PM »
China displays new hypersonic nuclear missile on 70th anniversary
Beijing also showcased inter-ballistic missile capable of reaching US in 30 minutes during 70th anniversary parade.

China's military has shown off a new hypersonic ballistic nuclear missile believed capable of breaching all existing anti-missile shields deployed by the United States and its allies.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/china-displays-hypersonic-ballistic-nuclear-missile-191001031803778.html
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Maybe we will second source the capabilities before it goes in the Military technology thread.


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Re: US "woke " to China
« Reply #903 on: October 04, 2019, 08:52:44 AM »
https://www.richmond.com/opinion/columnists/victor-davis-hanson-column-how-china-woke-america/article_f9b9c8ae-5d0b-5a31-b398-0071f3e4c992.html

Great column full of truth and insight (as usual).  This was something like the frog in boiling water story; it all happened so gradually. 

China was an economically pathetic third world country with a massive and growing population, a once great civilization that became a human disaster.  It was humane  and also strategic during the mutually assured destruction days with the Soviet Union to engage with China.

Their economic progress was a hopeful sign for mankind.  Hundreds of millions were lifted out of poverty and the birth rate (through brutal totalitarian tactics) collapsed. We hoped that growing prosperity would lead to pressure for democratic reforms but that is another matter.

Remember when Made in Japan meant crap before it meant Lexus and the highest of quality.  China started with unskilled production of cheap stuff, then stole technology, passed us in engineering grads, and now we don't know how to implement next generation technology (5G) without them.

10-20 years ago, when they said the cost of the pirated software in China alone would cover the whole trade deficit, the point was moot.  They were using the software because it was free, not because they could afford it.  In the time since we have moved closer to parity.

We aren't trying to close our market to their manufacturers.  We are only asking for equal access, free trade both ways, and we are asking for an end to theft and unfair trade practices.  Not unreasonable.

VDH is right, standing up for our producers is a Democrat issue too.  I, it's just that their leaders have were too timid, too wimpy and/or bought off to do that.  Did the public want a general price increase in box stores, Walmart, Home Depot etc. or want an interruption in farm exports?  No.  It took courage to call this out and mean it and only an outsider could do it.  Note that he accelerated the growth of the economy first before risking the short term damage.  No Democrat knew how to do that. 

In the last Democrat debate it was asked, who would end the [Trump] tariffs on the first day if elected?  No one said yes.  Instead they mumbled criticism about Trump's tone and manner.

Both economies are hurting from the trade war.  Our hurt is noticeable and China has five times more hurt than the US according to basic math - whether they admit or not.  This will get resolved.  If Trump is defeated and another President is in office when it is settled, it is still a Trump accomplishment.  He led instead of followed.

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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #904 on: October 04, 2019, 04:38:21 PM »
interesting

had two patients recently explain that they teach at home

their employers are Chinese
their jobs are to teach Chinese children English

one told me there are about 100.000 such teachers in the US.

Thus they all know English .
few of us know Chinese............

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US-China, NBA uproar
« Reply #905 on: October 10, 2019, 07:41:43 PM »
“Fight for freedom. Stand with Hong Kong.”

Don't say that in America!

That was the now deleted tweet that a NBA Franchise GM wrote that caused in international crisis.

I have one question, whose side are we on?  Doesn't anybody know or admit we are on the side of freedom and stand with Hong Kong?

Maybe someone should tell them.


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GPF: US-China tech war
« Reply #907 on: October 12, 2019, 11:44:37 AM »
The U.S.-China tech war moves to Xinjiang. The U.S. State Department announced Tuesday that it would impose visa restrictions on Chinese officials connected to the mass detentions of ethnic Uighur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang. This comes a day after the U.S. Commerce Department added 28 Chinese entities allegedly connected to abuses in Xinjiang, including eight tech firms, to its “entities list,” which bans U.S. firms from selling to them without a special license. The common theme among the eight sanctioned firms makes clear that U.S. concern about Chinese human rights abuses in Xinjiang is peripheral to the issue. All are developing technologies the U.S. sees as posing national security risks, particularly artificial intelligence. And, for the moment, all source the vast majority of their microchips from U.S. firms. For more than a year, the U.S. has been seeking to leverage the Chinese tech sector’s dependence on U.S. semiconductors to target Chinese telecommunications firms like Huawei and ZTE. But while China has struggled to develop native sources of the sorts of microchips needed for these firms, it’s been having much greater success with AI chips. So, don’t expect the U.S. move to be crippling over the long term. Either way, China has pledged to retaliate, but the issue reportedly hasn’t diminished Chinese willingness to resume talks on reaching at least a limited trade deal covering other issues.


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GPF: Thin Skinned China
« Reply #909 on: October 15, 2019, 05:29:31 AM »
Oct. 15, 2019


China Plays Hardball Over Hong Kong Unrest


Beijing’s willingness to demand silence from Western businesses, despite the risks of alienating them, is a sign of its increasing fragility.


By Phillip Orchard


Last weekend, the NBA unexpectedly found itself at the center of the row between Beijing and anti-government protesters in Hong Kong when Houston Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey expressed support for the protests on Twitter. After the Chinese Basketball Association announced a suspension of cooperation with the league, the NBA scrambled to distance itself from Morey’s views and defuse the situation. China was evidently unsatisfied; broadcasts of NBA games were canceled, NBA merchandise was pulled from Chinese stores, NBA ads disappeared (including one featuring the Brooklyn Nets, which are owned by vocally pro-Beijing Alibaba co-founder Joseph Tsai), and every one of the NBA’s official Chinese partners suspended ties with the league.

This week, Beijing also reportedly forced Apple to remove the Taiwanese flag emoji from iPhone keyboards in Hong Kong, as well as two apps: HKMap.live, which Hong Kong protesters used to crowdsource police movements, and Quartz, a U.S. media outlet whose Hong Kong coverage has evidently crossed a line. U.S. gaming company Blizzard Entertainment, meanwhile, suspended a professional player for expressing support for the Hong Kong protests. The hotel company Marriott, which has been under fire from Beijing for accidentally referring to Taiwan as a country, said it would fire an employee for “wrongfully liking” a tweet by a Tibetan independence group.

If China appears to be increasingly thin-skinned, it’s because the country is entering a period of profound internal political and economic stress. The risk of mass social unrest is as high as it has been at any time since 1989, making the potential rupture of regional fault lines amid these pressures China’s core geopolitical problem. Its uneasy relationship with foreign corporations illustrates the trade-offs inherent to Beijing’s approach to managing the problem. To stave off a political crisis sparked by an economic collapse, China needs the capital, jobs and technology provided by foreign firms. Yet, to stave off a political crisis, it can’t afford to see its control undermined by foreign influences – and won’t hesitate to go it alone if forced to choose.

The Costs Are Real

China’s willingness to draw a line in the sand with foreign firms reflects the country’s staggering growth in power but also its increasing fragility. It’s now home to the world’s second-largest consumer market. China has as many NBA fans, for example, as the rest of the world combined, and last year, the league reaped more than 10 percent of its revenue from China.

Increasingly, Beijing is leveraging its market power for a wide range of strategic, economic and political aims. For example, in exchange for the right to sell to Chinese consumers, Beijing often pushes tech firms to share advanced technologies with local partners that it hopes will accelerate the economy’s race up the value ladder. As illustrated by moves like forcing foreign airlines to pretend Taiwanese cities aren’t in Taiwan, no political victory is too small.

Still, at times, Beijing can appear curiously tone-deaf and ham-fisted, pressuring outside institutions in ways that do considerable harm to its reputation abroad for minimal gain. Beijing could’ve just ignored Morey’s tweet, which was unlikely to have any impact on the Hong Kong protests or perceptions of them on the mainland. Twitter is censored in China, after all. Yet, Beijing did respond – even explicitly calling for curbs to free speech in the U.S. – and then kept escalating the matter. As a result, it magnified the spotlight on human rights issues in Hong Kong and Xinjiang (where, until Sunday, the NBA had a training camp), sparked a national conversation in the U.S. about Chinese coercion two days before critical U.S.-China trade talks were set to begin, and gave antagonized NBA fans in China reason to sympathize with Hongkongers. For what gain?
Even when China has clear, worthwhile reasons to take a hard line with foreign firms, moreover, such moves invariably come with costs. For one, China needs foreign investment and technology, now more than ever considering that it’s dealing with the trade and tech wars, the global slowdown, China’s structural slowdown, credit shortages, and the growing awareness in foreign business circles of the difficulty and risks of operating in China. Already, its current account has slipped into deficit, and uncertainty related to the trade war has pinched global investment. Yet, the more foreign firms and investors think that doing business with China comes with risks of stumbling unawares onto Beijing’s naughty list or provoking nationalist boycotts – and, at home, risks of bad PR and pressure from U.S. lawmakers – the more likely they are to stay away.

To be clear, China will remain exceedingly attractive to most firms, particularly those selling to Chinese consumers. The conspicuous silence on the kerfuffle over Hong Kong of otherwise politically outspoken NBA stars has made that much clear. To steal from Michael Jordan: Communists buy sneakers, too. But for firms on the fence or those looking at the country purely as a manufacturing hub, China may not be worth the headaches.

China’s reputation problem carries risks in a number of other strategic and economic areas as well. The power of coercion is king in geopolitics, but hearts and minds still matter. Beijing has immense interest in winning political support for its aims abroad, or at least not antagonizing populations to the point where it creates political risks for foreign leaders of engaging with or conceding to China. In the past couple years alone, anti-China political backlashes have derailed strategically important Belt and Road Initiative projects in places like Sri Lanka and Malaysia. They’ve also undermined Beijing’s goals in regional states like the Philippines, which China needs to flip to solve its foremost strategic challenge. Perhaps most important, the growing impression in the U.S. and elsewhere in the West that China is a neo-fascist, revisionist state whose growth in power must be contained, whatever the costs, has boosted political support for Western trade and tech measures targeting China.

The costs are real.

Rocketing Risk

Why, then, is Beijing apparently so unconcerned about winning hearts and minds – or at least so clumsy at it? For one, China often can’t help itself. When an organ of the Chinese state lashes out at a foreign firm, it’s often less a tactical, conscious decision than the reflexive response of an institutional culture that can’t tolerate any questioning of the party line. It’s doubtful, in other words, that Xi Jinping rushed to convene an emergency strategy meeting on whether and how to respond to a tweet by some front office guy with the Houston Rockets. The massive machinery of the Chinese state just responded in the way it’s been programmed to. This is an inherent risk to authoritarian regimes where dissent is not tolerated and nationalism is a boon – and where career incentives push officials to air on the side of being too hawkish. China, moreover, was almost fully closed off to the world just two generations ago, so the system as a whole is still relatively new to the game of massaging foreign opinion and thus prone to seemingly pointless misadventures.

Often, though, China’s moves are indeed the result of risk-reward calculations – ones that underscore China’s increasing political fragility. If it can’t live without foreign capital and technology, but also can’t live with foreign firms undermining its control at home, then it has good reason to make an example of those who flout the party line in hopes of making the consequences abundantly clear to everyone else. If, as a result of the rigid institutional culture this creates, it may be prone to overreach and self-inflicted wounds, so be it. If it makes China’s broader tensions with its neighbors or the West worse, well, none of these tensions would be resolved altogether by playing nice, anyway. Whenever Beijing wields its favorite, seemingly tone-deaf accusation that a Western government or corporation has “hurt the feelings of the Chinese people,” what it’s really saying is that it can survive isolation by nursing powerful historical grievances to rally nationalist support.

The bigger point is that the Communist Party of China is stuck with a lot of bad options. When forced to choose, it’ll almost invariably pick the one that it thinks most solidifies its control. And the more China’s long-term economic interests take a back seat to the CPC’s immediate concerns about political stability, the more risk levels will rise on a range of issues.

Consider Hong Kong. The main constraint preventing Beijing from forcefully ending the protests and taking full control of the territory is China’s dependence on Hong Kong as a gateway for both inbound and outbound investment. The territory accounted for around 64 percent of China’s inward foreign direct investment last year – and it will become all the more important as China’s internal and external economic woes mount. Beijing has a strong interest in preserving what’s left of Hong Kong’s reputation (with both foreign and Chinese firms) as a stable, business-friendly temple to capitalism. Thus, rather than rolling tanks through Tsim Sha Tsui, we expect Beijing to intervene only indirectly, helping Hong Kong police contain and grind down the protests over time.


 

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Still, if Beijing begins to truly fear widespread contagion from the protests in the mainland, China’s concern about spooking foreign investors or derailing trade talks with the U.S. won’t be enough to stop it from restoring stability in Hong Kong the hard way. This would intensify Beijing’s isolation, and thus worsen its economic and political pressures at home. But from the CPC’s viewpoint, at least it would survive to be able to try to solve them.


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US-China, Buying Huawei Technology ‘Like Buying Chinese Fighter Planes’
« Reply #911 on: October 17, 2019, 07:46:19 AM »
Buying Huawei Technology ‘Like Buying Chinese Fighter Planes’

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/09/25/buying-huawei-technology-like-buying-chinese-fighter-planes-shock-new-report-warns/#62fcd5893170

“Why is there universal agreement that military equipment from China be restricted but not telecom networks where vital information is transported?”

https://chinatechthreat.com/about-us/

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'Without democracy, China will rise no further'
« Reply #912 on: October 17, 2019, 07:50:19 AM »
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2019-10-04/without-democracy-china-will-rise-no-farther
Without Democracy, China Will Rise No Farther
Beijing Can’t Compete With Washington Until It Reckons With Its People
By Jiwei Ci October 4, 2019

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Re: Buying Huawei like buying Chinese Fighter Planes
« Reply #915 on: October 18, 2019, 07:50:55 PM »

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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #916 on: October 19, 2019, 07:21:21 AM »
Sorry to be dimwitted on these things and gratitude for your help!  Do I have it right now?  Or is it too late?


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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #917 on: October 19, 2019, 07:46:39 AM »
Sorry to be dimwitted on these things and gratitude for your help!  Do I have it right now?  Or is it too late?

All good now.

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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #918 on: October 19, 2019, 07:50:12 AM »
Thanks for the help!


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Re: US-China, trade war takes toll on China’s economy
« Reply #924 on: October 27, 2019, 04:20:39 AM »
trouble for the world’s second biggest economy as the trade war with the US takes toll on China’s economic activity
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3034737/china-industrial-profits-biggest-fall-four-years-us-tariffs

Did anyone see this coming?    :wink:


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GPF: US-China dealing with the easy stuff
« Reply #926 on: October 28, 2019, 04:55:01 AM »
second post

   
    China and the US Are Dealing With the Easy Stuff
By: Phillip Orchard

U.S. and Chinese trade negotiators appear to have made a breakthrough on a “phase one” trade deal. Of course, it’s just a handshake deal, bereft of details that, according to U.S. President Donald Trump, would be papered eventually. And, of course, as we saw when negotiations collapsed abruptly in May, declaring success before the stickiest points of contention have been fully ironed out can backfire. Chinese President Xi Jinping won’t risk weakening his position at home by meeting with Trump at the upcoming Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in November if there’s any chance of walking away empty-handed.
Nonetheless, what’s important now is that the U.S. appears willing to settle on a deal that overwhelmingly ignores the stickiest points of contention altogether – at least for the time being. And recent moves from China suggest that it thinks a window of opportunity has indeed opened to lock in the handful of points where agreement is possible. A long-delayed Chinese Communist Party conclave this week will shed light on just how far Beijing is ready to push forward with critical reforms the U.S. is demanding.

At this point, even a limited, largely symbolic agreement would be a big deal to the extent that it staves off future escalation by the United States and shields U.S. businesses and consumers from the round of tariffs – by far the most painful – scheduled for mid-December. Just don’t expect this particular deal to do away with the bulk of existing tariffs, much less to resolve the underlying drivers of the dispute. Steep political constraints on Beijing will make a more comprehensive settlement even harder to reach down the road. Ultimately, the prospects of a final deal will hinge on just how much the United States, not China, is willing to cave.

Why China Looks Serious About a Deal

The trade war is far from China’s biggest economic problem, but it’s nonetheless starting to become a problem. U.S. imports from China have fallen 12.5 percent so far this year, compared to 2018. An International Monetary Fund forecast released this week said Chinese growth will plummet by another 1.6 percent next year if Trump follows through on his threats to tax another $267 billion worth of Chinese imports.
 
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It’s unsurprising, then, that over the past two months, Beijing has been quietly laying the groundwork for concessions needed to strike at least a “truce” with the U.S., if not a more substantive deal. On Friday, for example, it confirmed that a deal would include a pledge to keep the Chinese yuan stable in relation to a basket of currencies. Also in the past few weeks, Beijing lifted caps on foreign ownership in the asset management and auto industries, passed a new foreign investment law that received widespread positive reviews, and pledged a host of new measures such as export tax rebates, improved trade financing and credit insurance. It expanded quotas for tariff-free imports of some U.S. farm goods. According to U.S. officials, Beijing has also committed to make new concessions on intellectual property protections.
 
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Senior Chinese officials, meanwhile, have been on a PR blitz at home and abroad aimed at wooing foreign investors. Most prominent among them has been Premier Li Keqiang, a longtime economic liberalization advocate, and Vice President Wang Qishan, Xi’s trusted “firefighter” who is held in relatively more high esteem abroad. When Li and Wang take high-profile trips abroad and feature prominently in Chinese state media, it’s often a signal of growing concern in Beijing about its souring reputation in foreign business circles (and, occasionally, hints at a power struggle in the upper echelons of the CPC).

The timing of the CPC’s Fourth Plenum this week is also noteworthy. Beijing was expected to hold the plenary session a year ago, per tradition, but delayed it about as long as possible under party rules. This, combined with occasional hints of dissent about Xi’s reassertion of state control over the economy, suggested deep factional divides may have been emerging within the party over China’s handling of the economy, including the trade war. Xi is loath to risk having these divides on display at the plenum, so the fact Beijing is finally moving forward with the meeting, along with the aforementioned rollout of various reforms, could suggest he’s succeeded in restoring enough consensus for China to move more aggressively with reforms going forward.
More likely, though, the plenum will underscore the reality that Beijing is still operating amid tight political constraints and trying to thread the needle between a number of bad options. Based on official releases, at least, the emphasis of the conclave will be on themes like ideological purity, party loyalty and combating the evils of Western-style capitalism – not, say, the virtues of reform and opening. This would suggest that Xi remains preoccupied with restoring party solidarity and appealing to nationalist forces to curry support. When the party leadership gets nervous, it typically either gets trapped in paralysis or resorts to the tools it trusts most to entrench its power. In short, China wouldn't be capable of inking anything more than a “truce” anytime soon. The plenum will be held behind closed doors, so watch for subtle shifts in state media coverage, unexpected personnel changes and so forth for clues on Beijing’s ability to move decisively in one direction or another.

What a Deal Won’t Resolve

Already, it’s fairly clear what won’t be resolved in the immediate future, even if a phase one deal is finally put on paper. There’s a common theme among China’s recent moves and expected concessions: They’re all measures China increasingly needs to do anyway. Its moves to boost foreign participation in its financial sector, for example, come on the heels of a near-crisis in which the Chinese banking sector, especially state-owned lenders, proved exceedingly ill-suited for channeling funding to the private sector. The resulting credit crunch did far more damage to the Chinese economy than U.S. tariffs have yet to do. China’s increased agricultural purchases would come at a time of surging food prices resulting from a devastating outbreak of African swine fever. If it agrees, as reported, to a deal on stabilizing the yuan, it will be at least in part because it hasn’t been intentionally driving down its currency and has a crippling fear of capital flight.

Similarly, its measures aimed at wooing foreign investment come amid mounting concerns about the country’s reputation as a place increasingly hostile to foreign businesses. Beijing needs new foreign investment to sustain employment, boost its flagging growth, and stem the slow-motion exodus of foreign firms to other low-cost manufacturing hubs. Moreover, it has long relied on Western business circles to block anti-China and protectionist political forces abroad from translating into punitive policy measures. But over time, as homegrown competitors to foreign firms began hoarding market share in China (with ample help from the state), and as well-documented allegations of things like intellectual property theft proliferated, disenchantment among foreign firms with the Chinese model has become widespread. This is why opposition to Trump's trade war has proved manageable for the White House. Beijing won’t be able to make the sweeping changes needed to restore foreign confidence. But it makes sense for it to bend over backward to at least appear to be sincere about addressing foreign firms’ concerns.

In contrast, there’s been nary a hint of evidence that Beijing is preparing to make concessions on the main U.S. grievances. On some issues, like forced technology transfer, there’s realistically not that much Beijing can do to fully snuff out the practice. On others, like more meaningful IP protections, it can pass new laws and push courts to enforce them, but it sees such U.S. demands as an infringement on Chinese sovereignty and is thus loath to spark a nationalist backlash by following through with a gun to its head.

On the biggest issues, moreover, Beijing is going in the opposite direction. Its structural slowdown, trade pressure and soaring debt risks are forcing it to lean even more heavily on the state sector, for example. And to avoid falling into the fabled “middle-income trap,” bolster the People’s Liberation Army and reduce its dependence on foreign technologies, it's doubling down on its support for advanced manufacturing sectors. Deepening state control at the expense of market-driven dynamism may ultimately do more harm than good to China’s economy and industrial development. But resistance to liberalization from entrenched state-sector stakeholders in China, combined with the party's existential fear of widespread job loss, means Beijing is defaulting to the tools it trusts most to sustain stability.

There are also a number of points of contention that the U.S. itself isn’t willing to negotiate on – particularly those with national security implications resulting from China’s development of “emerging and foundational technologies." As we’ve long said, the U.S.-China “tech war” will far outlast the trade war. U.S. concerns over military issues or things like Hong Kong will also remain separate. Thus, expect U.S. measures targeting Chinese tech firms like Huawei, scrutiny on research and development collaboration, and inbound Chinese investment to only intensify from here. And since the U.S. will need to hold on to leverage to ensure implementation of whatever Beijing concedes on trade, expect most of the existing tariffs to remain in place for the time being as well.
 
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The U.S. will still have ample political and economic interest in striking a more comprehensive deal. The tariffs are accelerating the U.S. downturn, and an election year is approaching. And while the U.S. needs to do far more to reset its trade relationship with China and find ways to pressure Beijing to change, the problem for the U.S. is twofold: One, reaping the easy, low-hanging fruit in negotiations now leaves only the hard stuff. Two, absent a cataclysmic loss of CPC control, Beijing can’t and won’t concede on most of the hard stuff just to get out from under tariffs. Rather, they’ll just push China deeper into its shell.   




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Looks like we are long way from decoupling
« Reply #927 on: October 28, 2019, 09:39:39 PM »
China Investors Keep Making Deals in Silicon Valley Amid Washington Pushback
The moves highlight a resilient relationship amid Washington’s efforts to curb foreign access to sensitive technology

Sri Ambati, left, CEO of H20.ai, said a Chinese financial firm that made a passive investment in his company is “a strong partner.” PHOTO: JASON HENRY FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
By Heather Somerville
Updated Oct. 28, 2019 7:07 pm ET
Chinese investors are pressing ahead with investments into startups and venture-capital funds, emboldened in part by ambiguities in U.S. efforts to limit foreign access to technology deals.

Key rules for implementing a 2018 U.S. law intended to curb foreign access to sensitive technologies are yet to be defined, often leaving investors and entrepreneurs to determine which deals are permissible. For their part, U.S. tech entrepreneurs want to nurture connections to China.

Investment ties between the two countries thus remain tight despite political and trade tensions, say technology investors, entrepreneurs, attorneys, and current and former government officials.

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The sources of Chinese-affiliated money vary widely, as do investors’ motivations. Both can be hard to discern.

Palo Alto, Calif.-based Hone Capital was set up in 2015 with about $200 million from China Science and Merchants Investment Management Group, a Chinese private-equity firm known as CSC Group that nearly two years ago was delisted from a Chinese stock exchange, according to a person familiar with the matter and public documents.

Since the law was passed, Hone has continued to invest in the U.S., including in artificial-intelligence startups. Last year, Canadian private-equity firm Whitehorse Liquidity Partners gave Hone about $50 million to invest, people familiar with the matter said.

Hone hasn’t received funding from China in more than two years, said founder Veronica Wu. Yet Hone employees still report to CSC Group, which recently emphasized to them that the long-term strategy is to bring U.S. technology companies to China, the person familiar with the matter said.

Last month, more than 10,000 people flocked to a technology conference in Santa Clara, Calif., an annual gathering of mostly Chinese and U.S. tech workers and investors known as the Silicon Valley Innovation & Entrepreneurship Forum. Speakers included scientists affiliated with the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and U.S. national labs.

“Some people in Washington want to decouple the two economies. We disagree,” Ren Faqiang, China’s deputy consul general in San Francisco, told the audience.

The 2018 law expanded the power of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S., or Cfius, to probe minority investments in critical tech companies through which foreign investors could influence a company’s business decisions.

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A secretive panel called Cfius is paving the way for President Trump to block more foreign business deals due to national security concerns. WSJ's Shelby Holliday explains why you'll hear more about Cfius during the Trump era. Illustration: Laura Kammerman (Originally published March 20, 2018)
The law mandates that certain startups fundraising from foreign investors report their deals to Cfius for approval, and that Cfius do a better job sniffing out unreported foreign investments in sensitive technologies.

Cfius has broad authority to unwind deals after they have closed if it determines the technology should be restricted, so not reporting a foreign investment can be risky, said William Newsom, an attorney with law firm Cooley LLP.

The law prompted an initial pullback. The amount of Chinese venture investment in the U.S. during the first half of 2019 declined about 27% in dollar terms from the second half of 2018, according to research firm Rhodium Group.

“We were seeing a very conservative approach from investors initially,” said Larry Ward, a Cfius attorney with law firm Dorsey & Whitney LLP.

But Cfius appears ill-equipped to police the venture-capital industry, current and former government officials said.

The government also hasn’t codified which technologies are off-limits to foreigners, so some startups and investors don’t see the need to file with Cfius, Mr. Ward and other lawyers said.

Palo Alto, Calif.-based Amino Capital said it received funding from a local government in eastern China a couple of years ago. The firm, which also manages a venture fund in China, hasn’t changed its U.S. investment strategy in response to the Cfius law, said co-founder Jun Wu, who left the firm in August. He said the government phased out its support for Amino, but the firm is still mostly backed by Chinese investors. About 80% of the funding now comes from executives and owners of Chinese businesses seeking to move their money outside China, Mr. Wu said.

Amino managing partner Larry Li said the firm’s partners are U.S. citizens and none of its backers have access to private information about startups, nor can they make investment decisions on behalf of the firm.

Last year, Amino incubated and funded DataBeyond, a Palo Alto company that provides data analytics on fashion trends. One of Amino’s partners briefly served as its chief executive. The startup’s new CEO, Xiaoxi Zhang, and its top technology officer, Adrian Wang, said the relationship provided Amino with more access and influence over the company’s business strategy and growth plans than an average investor. They said their lawyer told them they didn’t have to alert Cfius.

Some Chinese investors are choosing different tactics, including taking pains to conceal their identity, U.S. defense officials and venture capitalists said. Mike Janke, co-founder of Maryland-based DataTribe, a venture fund that incubates cybersecurity startups, said that six times in the past year and a half, government-backed investors, including from China and Russia, have offered money for his fund through layers of front companies or subsidiaries. He rejected the offers after learning the origins of the money.

Other Chinese investors have been content to make only passive investments.

“Investment that is purely passive is inherently low-risk from a national security standpoint and in most cases should be welcomed,” said David Hanke, a partner at law firm Arent Fox who was the lead staff architect of the Cfius legislation while working for its sponsor, Sen. John Cornyn (R., Texas). “We didn’t want to shut off the flow of truly benign investment.”

Chinese financial conglomerate Ping An Insurance Group Co. began making minority investments in the U.S. this August through a venture fund it set up, including $15 million for a less than 5% stake in machine-learning startup H20.ai. Sri Ambati, the CEO of H20.ai, said he didn’t notify Cfius of Ping An’s investment because it isn’t taking a board seat and can’t see customer data. A spokesman for the venture fund said it isn’t seeking control with the investments.

Ping An will become a customer of H20.ai and help the startup get more customers in China, Mr. Ambati said. “They were the right match,” he said. “It’s a strong partner to provide a gateway into China.”

Beijing-based venture firm ZhenFund retreated from the U.S. partly because of Cfius, said a person familiar with the matter. But a ZhenFund employee recently pitched prospective investors about a new U.S.-based fund called Olive Capital, according to a pitch deck reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. Olive Capital will include money from a founder of ZhenFund, but ZhenFund itself won’t provide money, the person said. The pitch deck says Olive Capital will invest in U.S. tech companies and help them “gain exposure to China.”

“The policies we have put in place have not been all that effective in limiting China’s technology ambitions,” said Nicholas Eftimiades, a retired senior U.S. intelligence officer whose work has focused on China.

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Shen groups Beijing’s technological warfare attack tactics in three categories, in increasing magnitude of decentralization: helping authoritarian regimes with money and technology to surveille their citizens with the help of Beijing-linked technology companies such as Huawei; hacking and collecting information from countries targeted by Beijing; and using communication technology such as social media platforms to spread disinformation to create discord in society.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/facing-the-reality-of-the-chinese-regime_3132219.html?utm_source=Epoch+Times+Newsletters&utm_campaign=9f6cda989a-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_10_30_11_50&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4fba358ecf-9f6cda989a-239065853
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“Imagine what the world would look like if China were setting standards in six game-changing technologies like hypersonics, quantum sciences, autonomy, artificial intelligence (AI), 5G, genetic engineering, and space,” Brown said, noting that all these technologies, aside from hypersonics, are also vital for economic prosperity, not just militarily.

“Well, you don’t have to imagine, because China is already setting the pace for a number of those technologies,” he said at the panel, titled “Managing the Risk of Tech Transfer to China.”

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Sec State Pompeo, the China Challenge
« Reply #929 on: November 01, 2019, 03:40:48 AM »
... what the relationship will look like between the United States and China in the years and decades ahead. I’ll be clear about what the United States wants: We don’t want a confrontation with the People’s Republic of China. In fact, we want just the opposite.

We want to see a prosperous China that is at peace with its own people and with its neighbors.

We want to see a thriving China where the Chinese business community transact business with the rest of the world on a fair set of reciprocal terms that we all know and understand.

And we want to see a liberalized China that allows the genius of its people to flourish.

And we want to see a China that respects basic human rights of its own people, as guaranteed by its own constitution.

But above all, it’s critical that as Americans, we engage China as it is, not as we wish it were.

Herman Kahn used to remind us, he would urge us to think unconventionally to create persuasive arguments for policy and make those arguments consistently to the American people.

We have to think anew, and unconventionally, about the People’s Republic of China.

I hope you will all join me in that. We will learn together and we will develop a strong relationship between these two nations.

https://www.state.gov/the-china-challenge/
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Stratfor: China-Taiwan
« Reply #931 on: November 01, 2019, 08:04:13 AM »
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Will China Use a Cross-Strait Economic Pact to Push Taiwan?
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Oct 31, 2019 | 22:31 GMT
The Big Picture
China's tactics of intimidation and isolation directed at Taiwan as pro-independence sentiment on the island grows have sent relations between them to a two-decade low. As Taiwan nears a January election with the ruling party enjoying a strong lead in opinion polls, it's been speculated that Beijing could step up its pressure against Taipei by threatening a key economic pact. Ending the deal, however, would eliminate a tool the mainland has long relied on to manage relations with Taiwan.


Rising discord between Taiwan and China as crucial elections approach in Taiwan has raised the idea that Beijing could threaten the island's economy by terminating the Economic Cooperation Framework Agreement (ECFA). The pact, signed in 2010 when cross-strait relations were more cordial, offers a range of preferential policies giving Taiwanese manufacturers and exporters duty-free access to the otherwise restrictive mainland market and establishes the possibility of extending that access to trade in services. With the agreement, China hoped to increase integration of the cross-strait economy, thus giving Beijing more influence over Taipei and creating an atmosphere on the island less hospitable to thoughts of independence.

Although the deal as a whole is set to expire in June, neither the government in Beijing nor in Taipei has made any move to extend or renegotiate it. Negotiations over the services portion of the agreement, which were suspended in 2014 in the wake of mass protests in Taiwan, remain on hold. The declining efficacy of the deal and Taipei's growing tendency to dissociate politically and economically from the mainland gives Beijing the incentive to rethink it altogether. The pact's expiration — or even merely the idea that it would be allowed to expire — could provide political ammunition to the Taiwanese opposition Kuomintang — which Beijing arguably would prefer to win Taiwan's January elections over the governing Democratic Progressive Party (DPP). The economic harm to Taiwan's economy of ending the ECFA gives China a lever that it can use to try to rein in Taipei's hawkish cross-strait policies ahead of the election.

The cross-strait cooperation agreement expires in June. Neither China nor Taiwan has made any move to extend or renegotiate it.

A news conference held Oct. 30 by the Taiwan Affairs Office of the State Council, which holds responsibility for Taiwanese affairs, did little to refute the idea that the ECFA's days might be numbered. Ma Xiaoguang, a spokesman for the agency, stressed the frozen nature of the cross-strait dialogue while evading the question of whether China would exercise its option to terminate it. Beijing’s recent moves to ramp up economic pressure against Taipei, including an August ban on individual Chinese citizens making trips to Taiwan, make the chances of further economic escalation plausible, and the ECFA gives Beijing a potent cudgel to hold over Taiwan's head.

Trade with China accounts for 40 percent of Taiwan’s total exports, and the loss of preferential duty-free policies would add further drag on the Taiwanese economy, which has suffered under the weight of the global trade storm and sluggish semiconductor demand. Specifically, the ruling government, with an intent to minimize the cost, calculated that losing the ECFA would shrink Taiwanese trade at least 5 percent. An industrial assessment suggested the loss would hit industries such as chemicals, textiles, machinery and agriculture particularly hard.

But with the DPP's popularity on the upswing since Hong Kong's crisis erupted, potential economic threats may not have a significant political impact. Furthermore, there's a strong chance that they could backfire, feeding a DPP campaign narrative that focuses on Chinese intimidation. Besides, cross-strait economic linkages are a key part of China's strategy for managing its relations with Taiwan, so ending the ECFA would undercut Beijing's ability to influence Taiwan. It would also risk driving Taiwan to more aggressively pursue alternative economic partners, including the United States. And none of those outcomes would serve Beijing’s interests

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Michael Yon in Hong Kong 2.0
« Reply #932 on: November 01, 2019, 08:54:40 AM »
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Michael Yon:

Hong Kong Insurgency Intensifying — this is far beyond mere Protests, and beyond Civil Unrest

I flew to Hong Kong in late June after realizing from friends and reports that Hong Kong had slipped into General Civil Unrest. I jumped on an airplane — notice I rarely do this.

Since at least early July, some portion of Hong Kong Patriots have been waging insurgency. That portion continues to grow.

I do not know what next month or next year will bring. I can spot a hurricane, certify it is a hurricane, estimate its power, but have only guesses about what it will do next. Will it strengthen? Weaken? Blow out to sea? Flood Houston?

At this moment, the insurgency continues to grow. Keeping in mind that the pool of Patriots is not homogenous in thoughts, but they remain generally united at this time.

Tomorrow, Saturday, likely will bring another large demonstration of Patriot resolve with a giant march planned to start from Victoria Park.

I will be there. Expect running battles with police later in the day and into the night. (Having been to about 80 major Hong Kong protests so far, patterns have emerged.)

I will be there live-streaming, though likely not holding the camera myself. Tomorrow is a great opportunity to talk with a cross-section to sense the mood.

Remember — my “war name” was made being right about conflicts far ahead of talking heads. It helps to have smart friends to bounce information around. It’s 95% work, and thus I have been here most of the time since June, and now in early November this will be a chance to check temperature and pressure of the Patriot mood.

At this instantaneous moment, Hurricane Hong Kong is aiming straight at Beijing. US Congress is lining up the ducks to get behind Hong Kong. Much is at stake for China, and for Hong Kong officials who have allowed or even ordered Hong Kong Police to commit crimes against humanity on a daily basis for months.

There will be a reckoning. There will be a judgement day.
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Law enforcement looks to be a bit different in Hong Kong

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Stratfor: Mixing tech and human rights sanctions on China crosses Rubicon
« Reply #934 on: November 02, 2019, 03:25:47 PM »
By Mixing Tech and Human Rights Sanctions on China, the White House Crosses the Rubicon
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Nov 1, 2019 | 09:30 GMT

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As the United States and China make a fresh attempt at a trade truce, a glaring omission from the so-called Phase 1 talks is the issue of whether the White House will ease export restrictions on American tech suppliers to Chinese tech giant Huawei.
Even as the Trump White House may have originally intended to use at least parts of the Huawei blacklisting as a bargaining chip in trade negotiations, the window for compromise is closing, spelling prolonged uncertainty for U.S. tech companies with heavy exposure to China.

The reduced room for compromise is due in part to the trade and tech wars blending into human rights concerns, as complex global supply chains expose a number of Western and Chinese companies to accusations of facilitating Chinese digital authoritarianism.

From Hong Kong to Xinjiang to Taiwan, multiple flashpoints in the Chinese periphery will favor policy hawks on China over the doves in Washington. At the same time, the theme of Chinese censorship and appropriation of American values in pop culture is drawing a broader swath of the American public into recognizing "the China issue."

In this political climate, human rights-related sanctions against a growing list of strategic tech targets in China cannot easily be walked back.

U.S. and Chinese negotiators are scoping out new venues after the protest-wracked Chilean capital of Santiago canceled the Nov. 16-17 Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum, where U.S. President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping had been expected to endorse a so-called Phase 1 deal to allow White House and Beijing to justify another fragile cease-fire in their trade war. An alternative location for the two leaders is likely to emerge, giving both sides more time to shake out the details of what appears to be a lightweight compromise: Beijing has committed to around $20 billion in agricultural purchases in 2020 (around what it averaged before the trade war even started), is dusting off earlier pledges to boost intellectual property protections via an updated foreign investment law passed earlier this year, will make an additional symbolic pledge to avoid currency manipulation, and will partially liberalize its financial sector by lifting equity caps for foreigners on financial services firms at a time when Beijing faces a growing imperative to keep Western capital flowing to the mainland. In return, the White House so far is restraining itself from raising existing tariffs on $250 billion worth of Chinese imports from 25 percent to 30 percent and will likely hold off on following through with a threat to impose on Dec. 15 a 15 percent tariff on $110 billion in mostly consumer goods. That would still leave U.S. tariffs on more than $360 billion worth of Chinese goods weighing on the global economy.

The Big Picture

With the 2020 election approaching, the White House is under pressure to temper the trade war and avoid destabilizing a record-long U.S. economic expansion. But against the backdrop of lightweight trade truces, the battle over technological prowess is intensifying while restive parts of China’s periphery offer ample opportunities to the White House to drum up human rights sanctions against Beijing. Once the tech and trade wars bleed into human rights territory, however, the political cost of bargaining over these issues rises dramatically and leaves little room for compromise.


Conspicuously absent from the emerging truce is the outstanding issue of U.S. export restrictions against Huawei. This is in spite of Trump's largely unfulfilled promise in June following his G-20 meeting with Xi that the ban would be eased and indications last month from Beijing that even a boost in agricultural purchases would have to be matched with concessions on Huawei for a Phase 1 deal to advance. The Huawei issue is apparently being punted to an elusive "Phase 2" negotiation that may or may not get off the ground as Beijing digs in and prepares for whatever the November 2020 U.S. presidential election brings.
 
The omission reveals an uncomfortable and growing reality for U.S. tech firms: Politically convenient trade truces will come and go, but the strategic competition between the United States and China is deepening. Technology is a fundamental component of this broader rivalry, which also makes it a radioactive element in the trade talks and a prime target for China hawks advocating a decoupling of the U.S. and Chinese economies. At this stage of the competition, national security, human rights and sovereignty are getting mashed together along with American public attitudes on how to contend with China when it comes to shaping U.S. policy. As a result, the political room to negotiate on an issue like Huawei is narrowing by the day, driving a more hard-line U.S. policy toward China overall.

Packaging the Huawei Threat

The White House has taken three broad swings against Chinese tech giant Huawei:

A ban preventing Huawei from selling technology and hardware to U.S. telecom providers over concerns that U.S. telecommunications infrastructure could be made vulnerable to espionage or even sabotage by the Chinese government.
Criminal charges alleging violations of Iran sanctions, intellectual property theft and bank fraud.

A sweeping export ban imposed in May that largely prevents Huawei from purchasing critical U.S.-made parts and services, like semiconductor chips or access to Google's Android operating system.

When it comes to keeping Huawei out of U.S. — and allied — telecom networks, the United States is doubling down on its position. Washington is now in the process of trying to scrub rural networks of existing Chinese telecom gear. (Huawei has contracts with smaller telecom providers in rural America that are reliant on government subsidies to service low-income households, thus making them more vulnerable to government influence.) The U.S. government has also launched a largely unsuccessful campaign to pressure reluctant foreign partners not only to ban Huawei from their 5G networks, but also to preclude competitors to U.S. firms like Samsung, Nokia or Ericsson from even manufacturing their equipment in China.

When it comes to keeping Huawei out of U.S. — and allied — telecom networks, the United States is doubling down on its position.

The criminal charges and export ban, on the other hand, leave room for negotiation — in theory, anyway. Barring China from critical IT infrastructure is one thing, but severe restrictions on U.S. suppliers selling to China is another. U.S.-based multinational corporations cannot simply forfeit the growth and revenue the massive Chinese market offers. The White House could have left Chinese telecom firm ZTE to die after the U.S. Commerce Department in April 2018 cut the company off from U.S. software and hardware and drove it to the verge of bankruptcy. Instead, the White House swooped in with an eleventh-hour deal between Xi and Trump a month later that punished the firm for violating U.S. sanctions on Iran and North Korea, but restored U.S. business ties with the Chinese firm. But the White House was just ramping up its trade war with China at the time, calculating the first big tariff barrage announced in March 2018 coupled with the near-death blow to a big Chinese tech firm would be enough to grab Beijing's attention and drive a deal. Instead, a now all-too-familiar cycle ensued: The White House imposed tariffs, China retaliated, Trump and Xi eventually held a high-level summit, Xi promised big agricultural purchases, a truce was called, talks broke down over U.S. accusations that China was reneging on enforcement agreement, and more tariffs followed. Critically, the ZTE compromise also exposed Trump's narrowing room for maneuver on future tech bargains. After releasing ZTE from a chokehold, Trump faced significant criticism from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle who argued against any compromise on national security matters involving China.

Bargaining Chip or Strategic Target?

ZTE served as U.S. target practice for the attack against Huawei that followed in May 2019. The move by the Commerce Department to place the world's largest telecom equipment provider and second-largest manufacturer of smartphones on its entity list means that U.S. tech suppliers like Intel, Qualcomm, Xilinx, Broadcom, Micron and Google, all of which derive significant revenue from sales to China, are facing pressure to either reduce or cut ties with Huawei to avoid sanctions or fight an uphill regulatory battle to obtain an export license from the Commerce Department's Bureau of Industry and Security. The Commerce Department has been issuing 90-day temporary general licenses (TGLs) — the next one expires on Nov. 18 — ostensibly to give U.S. telecom companies more time to find alternatives to Huawei equipment, technology and software. The TGLs have been narrow in scope and do little to address uncertainty for U.S. tech suppliers to China. Trump himself has meanwhile periodically raised the prospect of including an easing of the export ban in a future trade deal.
 
The U.S. crackdown on Huawei leaves open the question of whether the White House ultimately views Huawei as a bargaining chip or a strategic target. The uncomfortable answer for U.S. tech firms and the global industry at large is that it is both. From the ban on 5G infrastructure to the ban on U.S. chipmakers, the Huawei issue is often politically packaged as one mega national security threat. This makes it very hard to compartmentalize, for example, more defined guidance from the Commerce Department on which exports actually constitute a threat to U.S. national security and more stringent rules that keep China out of U.S. 5G infrastructure.
 
This is perhaps why Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei has telegraphed a startling offer via The Economist and The New York Times: Huawei would sell its 5G technology stack of patents, code, blueprints and know-how to a Western firm, which could then further develop, implement and maintain the technology according to its own standards. On the surface, this appears like a tempting offer considering that the United States lacks a competitor in the 5G space and would have to look to Samsung, Nokia or Ericsson as a Huawei alternative. But concerns over software vulnerabilities and maintenance, not to mention the political firestorm such a transaction would ignite, probably render it impractical. That may be Ren's plan all along — to call out overt U.S. politicization of U.S. business interactions with the company, while also giving the appearance that Huawei is a responsible global stakeholder while governments worldwide must weigh the clear economic benefit of working with Huawei to install their 5G networks amid a U.S. campaign to brand Huawei as a critical danger to allied networks.

The muddling of White House tactics and strategy in dealing with Beijing on trade and technology risks reducing space for meaningful negotiation and will inevitably drive the United States down a more hawkish path. This reality was on display a few weeks ago when the Trump White House, in its incessant search for leverage in trying to secure a Phase 1 deal on its terms, blacklisted 28 Chinese companies, including eight critical Chinese tech companies. The companies included artificial intelligence firms SenseTime Group Ltd. and Megvii Technology Ltd. and surveillance product manufacturers Hangzhou Hikvision Digital Technology and Zhejiang Dahua Technology Co. The additions to the Commerce Department's burgeoning entity list were pinned on human rights violations against Muslim minorities in Xinjiang province, where Beijing has been pilot testing highly invasive technologies to control what it views as a restive part of its periphery.

The muddling of White House tactics and strategy in dealing with Beijing on trade and technology risks reducing space for meaningful negotiation.

The move appears to have been designed to kill two birds with one stone: The White House had been sitting on these human rights sanctions for months, holding the tactic in reserve for an opportune point in its trade negotiation to escalate pressure on Beijing. At the same time, the blacklisting clearly had a strategic end in targeting some of the biggest tech challengers to the United States.
 
For China, this was only further confirmation that the White House remains intent on trying to handicap Chinese tech giants by squeezing their supply chain vulnerabilities to American tech suppliers. Beijing can only assume at this point that future sanctions could target other valuable Chinese tech companies, like electronics manufacturers Xiaomi and Lenovo and digital services companies like Tencent, Baidu and Alibaba. Rather than drive China toward deeper concessions on reforming its industrial policies, the U.S. move more likely will intensify China's imperative to put state resources to work (including the country's cyberespionage prowess) to facilitate a rapid build-up in indigenous tech capabilities. This is what makes a Phase 2 deal on more substantive issues that much harder to envision, and what will keep the trade war in an extreme state for the foreseeable future.

The Costs of Playing the Human Rights Card

In leveraging human rights issues, the White House may also be painting itself into a negotiating corner in managing its economic standoff with Beijing. The potent narrative of Beijing harnessing its technological strengths in artificial intelligence-powered facial recognition to fortify government surveillance and oppress minorities in Xinjiang and democracy defenders in Hong Kong is not one that can be easily walked back politically. Capitol Hill is already buzzing with China hawks on both sides of the aisle, with more than 150 anti-China bills and counting introduced in the 116th Congress so far, including the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019 (which has passed the House but has yet to be voted on in the Senate) and an upcoming bill by Sen. Marco Rubio, R.-Florida, that could open the door to U.S. capital controls by preventing a federal pension fund from investing in China. As U.S. Navy Secretary Richard Spencer put it in a recent op-ed in The Washington Post, "imagine retiring after a long career serving in uniform, only to learn that your savings all those years had helped fund advanced weapons systems for America's adversaries."
 
In this charged political climate, an easing of the U.S. export ban on Chinese tech companies as part of a broader trade deal would be met with an avalanche of political criticism from both Democrats and Republicans. Even outside the circle of policy wonks in Washington, the explosive controversy between China and the NBA over a tweet in support of the Hong Kong protests by the general manager of the Houston Rockets and Beijing's ban on "South Park" for satirizing U.S. corporations that enable Chinese censorship of American pop culture are drawing a much broader swath of the American public into recognizing "the China issue." At this stage, corporations heavily invested in China not only may have to worry about social media activism that translates into consumer boycotts against companies seen as facilitating Chinese repression, they also are unlikely to see much in the way of a reprieve in White House policy when it comes to sweeping trade restrictions affecting their bottom line.
 
I imagine this has been a major point of discussion among the Chinese leadership as the Central Committee of the Communist Party has held its secretive plenum this week in Beijing. The Chinese leadership will remain engaged with the Trump White House, watching and waiting to see if a more politically vulnerable Trump in 2020 will lead to some tariff easing, especially if a broader industrial slowdown and the jitters from the trade war start to more visibly drag on U.S. economic growth and risk depriving the president of his chief electoral advantage. But Beijing is also looking well beyond the Phase 1 deal and the 2020 election in preparing the country for a much more intensive U.S. containment strategy against China.
 
Though it may seem counterintuitive, many scholars and officials in Beijing actually see Trump as the lesser of two evils compared to any of his Democratic challengers. The U.S.-China confrontation is already in full swing, so now it is a question of where and how does the rivalry escalate. Some in Beijing will argue that a more transactional and impressionistic president like Trump whose unilateralist policies tend more to polarize than to recruit allies may be more advantageous to Beijing than a more traditional strategist who would work with allies to more effectively contain China and who would have a stronger ideological grounding in human rights issues — risking heavier interference in flashpoints like Hong Kong or Taiwan.

Less than two months ago, Trump did say rather bluntly that the potential for intervention by Beijing in Hong Kong was "between Hong Kong and that's between China, because Hong Kong is a part of China. They'll have to deal with that themselves. They don't need advice." That message of noninterference may have been music to Beijing's ears, but it is far from a guarantee of a policy of noninterference, as recently evidenced by the Xinjiang sanctions. With the trade war already in extreme territory, the White House will grasp at tech-infused human rights issues in trying to pressure Beijing. As the theme of self-determination takes hold in the Hong Kong protests and threatens to embolden Taiwanese nationalists, Beijing will face a growing compulsion to lock down what it sees as the most vulnerable nodes of its periphery. In the end, this will create more ammunition for policy hard-liners to play off growing American public sensitivities to the China challenge and build on the momentum created by the president to drive to a more hawkish U.S. policy toward China.

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US-China trade deal Phase One on agriculture, financial services and currency
« Reply #935 on: November 03, 2019, 05:52:58 AM »
The U.S. and China have essentially concluded negotiations on several aspects of the trade deal, a White House adviser said Friday, including on agriculture, financial services and currency. Gaps still remain on forced technology transfer, National Economic Council Director Larry Kudlow told reporters. The adviser spoke as ministerial-level representatives negotiated over the phone, aiming to reach a partial deal for the leaders to sign sometime in November. "The agriculture chapter is about closed down," Kudlow told reporters. "Not only the increase in purchases [of] $40 to $50 billion, but the opening up of [agricultural] markets, the lowering of regulations and standards and non-tariff barriers. Very positive."​https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Trade-war/US-China-trade-talks-virtually-done-on-agriculture-and-finance

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GPF: Huawei
« Reply #936 on: November 04, 2019, 08:57:25 AM »
Huawei, reinstated? U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said Sunday that U.S. suppliers will be authorized to resume sales to Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei “very soon.” Huawei and 68 of its affiliates were placed on a U.S. blacklist last spring; U.S. suppliers have since had to apply for licenses to export software and technology to the Chinese firms. The Commerce Department has received 206 requests for such licenses, according to Ross, but none have yet been granted. It’s unclear just how much the U.S. intends to relax the ban, but the decision will reflect a fundamental challenge facing U.S. policy toward foreign tech companies it deems potentially threatening: how to protect U.S. vulnerabilities without needlessly harming the United States’ own tech sector. In other words, imposing a blanket ban on exports to firms like Huawei risks depriving U.S. firms of critical revenues needed to drive innovation and accelerating the development of Chinese competitors. Another challenge is that a ban just might not work. On Monday, for example, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, the world’s largest contract chipmaker, became the latest major supplier to say it had no plans to cut off Huawei. Major U.S. firms like Intel and Micron have also found ways around the ban

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GPF: US-China dealing with the easy stuff
« Reply #937 on: November 04, 2019, 07:26:40 PM »


China and the US Are Dealing With the Easy Stuff
Beijing and Washington have yet to tackle the core grievances of the trade war.

By Phillip Orchard -October 28, 2019Open as PDF

U.S. and Chinese trade negotiators appear to have made a breakthrough on a “phase one” trade deal. Of course, it’s just a handshake deal, bereft of details that, according to U.S. President Donald Trump, would be papered eventually. And, of course, as we saw when negotiations collapsed abruptly in May, declaring success before the stickiest points of contention have been fully ironed out can backfire. Chinese President Xi Jinping won’t risk weakening his position at home by meeting with Trump at the upcoming Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in November if there’s any chance of walking away empty-handed.

Nonetheless, what’s important now is that the U.S. appears willing to settle on a deal that overwhelmingly ignores the stickiest points of contention altogether – at least for the time being. And recent moves from China suggest that it thinks a window of opportunity has indeed opened to lock in the handful of points where agreement is possible. A long-delayed Chinese Communist Party conclave this week will shed light on just how far Beijing is ready to push forward with critical reforms the U.S. is demanding.

At this point, even a limited, largely symbolic agreement would be a big deal to the extent that it staves off future escalation by the United States and shields U.S. businesses and consumers from the round of tariffs – by far the most painful – scheduled for mid-December. Just don’t expect this particular deal to do away with the bulk of existing tariffs, much less to resolve the underlying drivers of the dispute. Steep political constraints on Beijing will make a more comprehensive settlement even harder to reach down the road. Ultimately, the prospects of a final deal will hinge on just how much the United States, not China, is willing to cave.

Why China Looks Serious About a Deal

The trade war is far from China’s biggest economic problem, but it’s nonetheless starting to become a problem. U.S. imports from China have fallen 12.5 percent so far this year, compared to 2018. An International Monetary Fund forecast released this week said Chinese growth will plummet by another 1.6 percent next year if Trump follows through on his threats to tax another $267 billion worth of Chinese imports.



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It’s unsurprising, then, that over the past two months, Beijing has been quietly laying the groundwork for concessions needed to strike at least a “truce” with the U.S., if not a more substantive deal. On Friday, for example, it confirmed that a deal would include a pledge to keep the Chinese yuan stable in relation to a basket of currencies. Also in the past few weeks, Beijing lifted caps on foreign ownership in the asset management and auto industries, passed a new foreign investment law that received widespread positive reviews, and pledged a host of new measures such as export tax rebates, improved trade financing and credit insurance. It expanded quotas for tariff-free imports of some U.S. farm goods. According to U.S. officials, Beijing has also committed to make new concessions on intellectual property protections.

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Senior Chinese officials, meanwhile, have been on a PR blitz at home and abroad aimed at wooing foreign investors. Most prominent among them has been Premier Li Keqiang, a longtime economic liberalization advocate, and Vice President Wang Qishan, Xi’s trusted “firefighter” who is held in relatively more high esteem abroad. When Li and Wang take high-profile trips abroad and feature prominently in Chinese state media, it’s often a signal of growing concern in Beijing about its souring reputation in foreign business circles (and, occasionally, hints at a power struggle in the upper echelons of the CPC).

The timing of the CPC’s Fourth Plenum this week is also noteworthy. Beijing was expected to hold the plenary session a year ago, per tradition, but delayed it about as long as possible under party rules. This, combined with occasional hints of dissent about Xi’s reassertion of state control over the economy, suggested deep factional divides may have been emerging within the party over China’s handling of the economy, including the trade war. Xi is loath to risk having these divides on display at the plenum, so the fact Beijing is finally moving forward with the meeting, along with the aforementioned rollout of various reforms, could suggest he’s succeeded in restoring enough consensus for China to move more aggressively with reforms going forward.

More likely, though, the plenum will underscore the reality that Beijing is still operating amid tight political constraints and trying to thread the needle between a number of bad options. Based on official releases, at least, the emphasis of the conclave will be on themes like ideological purity, party loyalty and combating the evils of Western-style capitalism – not, say, the virtues of reform and opening. This would suggest that Xi remains preoccupied with restoring party solidarity and appealing to nationalist forces to curry support. When the party leadership gets nervous, it typically either gets trapped in paralysis or resorts to the tools it trusts most to entrench its power. In short, China wouldn’t be capable of inking anything more than a “truce” anytime soon. The plenum will be held behind closed doors, so watch for subtle shifts in state media coverage, unexpected personnel changes and so forth for clues on Beijing’s ability to move decisively in one direction or another.

What a Deal Won’t Resolve

Already, it’s fairly clear what won’t be resolved in the immediate future, even if a phase one deal is finally put on paper. There’s a common theme among China’s recent moves and expected concessions: They’re all measures China increasingly needs to do anyway. Its moves to boost foreign participation in its financial sector, for example, come on the heels of a near-crisis in which the Chinese banking sector, especially state-owned lenders, proved exceedingly ill-suited for channeling funding to the private sector. The resulting credit crunch did far more damage to the Chinese economy than U.S. tariffs have yet to do. China’s increased agricultural purchases would come at a time of surging food prices resulting from a devastating outbreak of African swine fever. If it agrees, as reported, to a deal on stabilizing the yuan, it will be at least in part because it hasn’t been intentionally driving down its currency and has a crippling fear of capital flight.

Similarly, its measures aimed at wooing foreign investment come amid mounting concerns about the country’s reputation as a place increasingly hostile to foreign businesses. Beijing needs new foreign investment to sustain employment, boost its flagging growth, and stem the slow-motion exodus of foreign firms to other low-cost manufacturing hubs. Moreover, it has long relied on Western business circles to block anti-China and protectionist political forces abroad from translating into punitive policy measures. But over time, as homegrown competitors to foreign firms began hoarding market share in China (with ample help from the state), and as well-documented allegations of things like intellectual property theft proliferated, disenchantment among foreign firms with the Chinese model has become widespread. This is why opposition to Trump’s trade war has proved manageable for the White House. Beijing won’t be able to make the sweeping changes needed to restore foreign confidence. But it makes sense for it to bend over backward to at least appear to be sincere about addressing foreign firms’ concerns.

In contrast, there’s been nary a hint of evidence that Beijing is preparing to make concessions on the main U.S. grievances. On some issues, like forced technology transfer, there’s realistically not that much Beijing can do to fully snuff out the practice. On others, like more meaningful IP protections, it can pass new laws and push courts to enforce them, but it sees such U.S. demands as an infringement on Chinese sovereignty and is thus loath to spark a nationalist backlash by following through with a gun to its head.

On the biggest issues, moreover, Beijing is going in the opposite direction. Its structural slowdown, trade pressure and soaring debt risks are forcing it to lean even more heavily on the state sector, for example. And to avoid falling into the fabled “middle-income trap,” bolster the People’s Liberation Army and reduce its dependence on foreign technologies, it’s doubling down on its support for advanced manufacturing sectors. Deepening state control at the expense of market-driven dynamism may ultimately do more harm than good to China’s economy and industrial development. But resistance to liberalization from entrenched state-sector stakeholders in China, combined with the party’s existential fear of widespread job loss, means Beijing is defaulting to the tools it trusts most to sustain stability.

There are also a number of points of contention that the U.S. itself isn’t willing to negotiate on – particularly those with national security implications resulting from China’s development of “emerging and foundational technologies.” As we’ve long said, the U.S.-China “tech war” will far outlast the trade war. U.S. concerns over military issues or things like Hong Kong will also remain separate. Thus, expect U.S. measures targeting Chinese tech firms like Huawei, scrutiny on research and development collaboration, and inbound Chinese investment to only intensify from here. And since the U.S. will need to hold on to leverage to ensure implementation of whatever Beijing concedes on trade, expect most of the existing tariffs to remain in place for the time being as well.

Looking Ahead in the U.S.-China Trade War

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The U.S. will still have ample political and economic interest in striking a more comprehensive deal. The tariffs are accelerating the U.S. downturn, and an election year is approaching. And while the U.S. needs to do far more to reset its trade relationship with China and find ways to pressure Beijing to change, the problem for the U.S. is twofold: One, reaping the easy, low-hanging fruit in negotiations now leaves only the hard stuff. Two, absent a cataclysmic loss of CPC control, Beijing can’t and won’t concede on most of the hard stuff just to get out from under tariffs. Rather, they’ll just push China deeper into its shell.


Phillip Orchard
Phillip Orchard is an analyst at Geopolitical Futures. Prior to joining the company, Mr. Orchard spent nearly six years at Stratfor, working as an editor and writing about East Asian geopolitics. He’s spent more than six years abroad, primarily in Southeast Asia and Latin America, where he’s had formative, immersive experiences with the problems arising from mass political upheaval, civil conflict and human migration. Mr. Orchard holds a master’s degree in Security, Law and Diplomacy from the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs, where he focused on energy and national security, Chinese foreign policy, intelligence analysis, and institutional pathologies. He also earned a bachelor’s degree in journalism from the University of Texas. He speaks Spanish and some Thai and Lao.


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Re: Pro Peking HK congressman knifed
« Reply #939 on: November 07, 2019, 06:12:21 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUnehLMGz7c&fbclid=IwAR3DRDV6ntbgkmOphtMzSGOIlGhv8JiDOCaPT1VE9rtSP-cLtR2YdWooq5c

Speaking of a very large country being on the brink of a civil war...  This keeps escalating.
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Michael Yon:
"Hong Kong Insurgency Intensifying — this is far beyond mere Protests, and beyond Civil Unrest"

    - Yes it is.

China should grant HK independence, recognize Taiwan as the independent country it is, grant the US reciprocal free trade status and pass a bill of rights for their own citizens - or else they can stay on this path and see where it leads.

The Michael Yon reporting exposes that this uprising is bigger than anything that happened at Tiananmen.



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Re: US-China - Debt reckoning
« Reply #940 on: November 07, 2019, 06:49:22 AM »
One industry is thriving in China as their stubbornness in the US trade war lingers on:  bankruptcy

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-embraces-bankruptcy-u-s-style-to-cushion-a-slowing-economy-11573058567?mod=hp_lead_pos7

https://www.wsj.com/articles/less-savings-more-debt-how-chinese-manage-money-american-style-in-17-charts-11572427805?mod=article_inline

Interesting trend, the leading challenger to Trump [Warren] is a noted expert on the same subject, bankruptcy.

Like a forest fire, bankruptcy is good if it is not too large or over-used.

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Re: US-China, is China routing for Trump's re-election?
« Reply #941 on: November 08, 2019, 05:14:20 AM »
https://www.scmp.com/business/china-business/article/3036844/trade-negotiator-who-got-china-wto-rooting-trumps-re

 Former negotiator says the Twitterer in Chief is "easy to read" and just wants China to buy more American products.

The Chinese side is harder to read and might be saying the opposite of what they think.


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WSJ: China's quantum computing threat to American security
« Reply #943 on: November 11, 2019, 02:22:14 PM »
second post

The Quantum Computing Threat to American Security
Google claims supremacy, but the risk remains that U.S. complacency lets China crack all its codes.
By Arthur Herman
Nov. 10, 2019 1:48 pm ET

An illustration of Google’s Sycamore processor, Oct. 23. PHOTO: HO/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES
Google announced last month that it had achieved “quantum supremacy,” demonstrating the potential of a new kind of computer that can perform certain tasks many orders of magnitude faster than the most advanced supercomputers. It’s a crucial moment for America’s national security, which depends on winning the race to do what quantum computers will do best: decrypt the vast majority of existing public-key encryption systems.

Google reports that its quantum computer, dubbed Sycamore, solved a mathematical calculation in 200 seconds that would take a supercomputer 10,000 years. IBM, a quantum competitor, asserted that Google’s claim of supremacy is overblown, and that the world’s most powerful classical computer, the Summit OLCF-4 at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, could have done the same calculation in 2.5 days—roughly a thousandfold difference rather than 1.5 trillionfold. Still, quantum computers are no longer science fiction.

To process information, digital computers use bits, essentially switches that can be either off or on, corresponding with the binary digits, 0 and 1. Quantum computers employ “qubits,” which use the probabilistic nature of quantum physics to represent any combination of 0 and 1 simultaneously, enabling them to encode more complicated data.

Their computing power grows exponentially as the number of qubits expands. Sycamore’s 54-qubit chip allowed it to outcompute the best supercomputer. A 2,000- to 4,000-qubit quantum computer would render most public-key encryption architectures—used for applications from banking and credit cards to the power grid—obsolete. They rely on numbers too big for conventional computers to factorize, but which a quantum computer could.

Building quantum computers is a very heavy lift. They require hugely expensive infrastructure to stabilize the qubits at temperatures near absolute zero. They also generate high error rates, or “quantum noise,” for which researchers have to compensate. Developers are probably years away from the large-scale code-breaking quantum computer everyone worries about—although once scientists and engineers start using quantum computers to build the next generation of quantum computers (since modeling complex systems like themselves is one of their strengths) the timeline could quickly shorten.

Beijing is America’s chief quantum-computing rival. It spends at least $2.5 billion a year on research—more than 10 times what Washington spends—and has a massive quantum center in Hefei province. China aspires to develop the code-breaking “killer app,” which means protecting U.S. data and networks from quantum intrusion is a vital security interest.

Congress enacted the National Quantum Initiative Act late last year, which commits an additional $1.25 billion over five years—still a fraction of China’s effort. In addition to more money, the U.S. needs a three-phase national-security strategy to protect and defend American data, networks and infrastructure from future quantum attack.

First, dramatically increase efforts to develop encryption methods based on algorithms large and complex enough to foil quantum intrusion. The National Institute of Standards and Technology is working to set a comprehensive standard for these quantum-resistant algorithms so they can be deployed by 2024, but companies in the U.S., Canada and elsewhere are already building algorithms and other protective tools.

Second, use quantum technology itself to create the “unhackable” networks of the future. The same particles that make quantum computing possible can provide randomized and unhackable keys for encrypted transmissions, in the form of quantum random number generators and quantum key distribution, a method of securing information shared between two parties. Dismissed as a fantasy a few years ago, quantum cryptography has spawned companies in the U.S., Switzerland, South Korea and Australia, which are deploying the first components of a new quantum-based information-technology infrastructure. Eventually this will include satellites using quantum keys to transmit encrypted data.

Here again China has moved quickly. It launched the world’s first quantum satellite in 2016 and shocked the world by creating a quantum-encrypted intercontinental video link from space to a China-Austria study group in Vienna. China has also created a 1,263-mile ground link between Beijing and Shanghai using quantum-encrypted keys between relay stations, which offers an ultrasecure network for transmitting sensitive data, including for China’s military and intelligence services.

Third, require that all U.S. data and networks, including future 5G technology, be made secure from quantum attack while devoting resources to build the hack-proof quantum communication networks of the future. That will require working with America’s closest allies, several of which are making key breakthroughs in the same quantum and postquantum technologies.

Promoting such cooperation has been a core mission at the Quantum Alliance Initiative, which convened a consortium of companies and universities from the U.S. and allied countries to develop global standards for quantum random number generators and quantum key distribution late last year. But no one can do all this alone, not even Google plus IBM plus Microsoft and the other big companies working in quantum computing. Leadership from the federal government is more imperative than ever. Google’s breakthrough proves that the threats, as well as the opportunities, of quantum technology are real—and that quantum is poised to become the national-security issue of the 21st century.

Mr. Herman is director of the Hudson Institute’s Quantum Alliance Initiative and author of “1917: Lenin, Wilson, and the Birth of the New World Disorder.”






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Game over: China Is Out of Economic Ammo Against the U.S.
« Reply #949 on: November 22, 2019, 08:06:09 AM »
My comments at the end.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-21/china-has-few-options-to-retaliate-against-u-s-over-hong-kong

China Is Out of Economic Ammo Against the U.S.
It has maxed out tariffs and other trade barriers, and selling Treasuries is ineffective.

By Noah Smith
November 20, 2019,
It can’t get much worse.

The Chinese government has issued vague but stern-sounding warnings that it will retaliate for a bill passed by Congress that would require the White House to protect human rights and ensure the territory’s autonomy. But China’s options for economic retaliation are limited. And most of these options have already been exercised amid President Donald Trump's trade war.

China’s most obvious method of retaliation would be to stop buying American goods. But China has already imposed tariffs on $135 billion worth of products.
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The other big weapon in the Chinese arsenal is investment. The Chinese government is traditionally a major buyer of U.S. government debt, and it holds the second-biggest stash of Treasuries (after Japan). Over the years, many have fretted that a spat between the U.S. and China would lead the latter to sell off that mountain of debt, creating a world of hurt for the U.S. financial system and economy.

But this danger is vastly exaggerated for two reasons. First, as recent experience demonstrates, the U.S. simply doesn’t need Chinese government cash. In 2015 and 2016 China experienced one of the biggest capital flights in history, with about $1 trillion pouring out of the country. This resulted in a huge drawdown of China’s foreign-exchange reserves, most of which are U.S. bonds:
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If the U.S. were heavily dependent on Chinese government financing, interest rates on U.S. debt -- and by extension, throughout the U.S. economy -- should have risen. Instead, they fell.
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If China can dump a quarter of its U.S. bond holdings and not cause a noticeable movement in American borrowing costs, then the threat represented by the remaining three-quarters probably is small. The U.S., like the rest of the developed world, is simply awash in financial capital.

Unloading its reserve stockpile in retaliation for U.S. actions toward Hong Kong would put China in greater danger than the U.S. Without the cushion of reserves, a repeat of 2015-16 could lead to a classic emerging-market crisis in China, with capital outflows forcing a sudden currency depreciation, devastating the financial system and bringing the economy to a sudden stop.

One final thing China could do is restrict its exports of rare earths, a crucial input for many technology products. China now dominates production of these commodities. But as my colleague David Fickling has noted, this threat also is minimal; when China cut off rare-earth exports to Japan in 2010 as part of a geopolitical dispute, Japan simply teamed up with an Australian company to find new supplies, quickly breaking China’s monopoly. The U.S. could easily replicate this feat. [Doug: Trump already started that effort.]

So China has few economic weapons left with which to threaten the U.S. over Hong Kong. It will likewise be powerless to retaliate over other geopolitical and humanitarian disputes, such as U.S. condemnation of the mass internment of Muslims in China’s Xinjiang province or territorial spats in the South China Sea. For that matter, China’s continued ability to escalate the trade war seems limited.
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My comment on the first point, agriculture.  To the extent that people are willing to buy and sell a distance of US to China, there is one world market for these goods (crops).  If China buys from "other suppliers", US suppliers can sell to the otherwise buyers of these other sellers.  The net damage to US farmers rounds to zero.

China is out of economic weapons against the US.  All we want now is what Xi just said, an equal relationship, in terms of the playing field.  Write it up and be done with this mutually destructive (5-fold against them) game.