Fire Hydrant of Freedom
Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities => Politics & Religion => Topic started by: Crafty_Dog on May 05, 2023, 05:14:03 PM
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https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-robert-f-kennedy-jr-is-wrong-there-are-no-us-aegis-missile-systems-in-ukraine-/7079158.html?fbclid=IwAR366mLt_S9aq02pcQA_V5tkLdgMplQuYEfAJzgtL-C0VkSY1VySysVBmvw
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https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-robert-f-kennedy-jr-is-wrong-there-are-no-us-aegis-missile-systems-in-ukraine-/7079158.html?fbclid=IwAR366mLt_S9aq02pcQA_V5tkLdgMplQuYEfAJzgtL-C0VkSY1VySysVBmvw
Will such diligence be applies to Biden's statements?
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https://bombthrower.com/the-right-to-own-bitcoin-shall-be-inviolate-rfkjr-delivers-historic-keynote-at-bitcoin2023/
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/robert-kennedy-jr-durham-report-that-report-is/
Milagro!
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This adds to his potential as a seriously disruption force.
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https://summit.news/2023/05/23/rfk-jr-slams-political-weaponization-of-the-fbi-to-destroy-a-sitting-president/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/robert-kennedy-jr-durham-report-that-report-is/
Milagro!
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https://www.revolver.news/2023/05/rfk-jr-sparks-a-wildfire-us-election-fraud-becomes-a-blazing-issue-in-2024/
https://summit.news/2023/05/23/rfk-jr-slams-political-weaponization-of-the-fbi-to-destroy-a-sitting-president/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/robert-kennedy-jr-durham-report-that-report-is/
Milagro!
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https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/04/29/smr-rfk-jr-on-challenging-biden.cnn
I was wondering of MSM would give him the time of day
as I notice him on our side media
Fox Newsmax and others
OTOH I don't make it a point to listen to left MSM :-D
he makes good points. I don't recall A Democrat who I actually agree on multiple points !
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https://michaelyon.locals.com/upost/4094322/robert-f-kennedy-jr-keep-fighting
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/rfk-jr-says-fox-news-didnt-run-negative-vaccine-stories-to-keep-big-pharma-advertisers_5314287.html?utm_source=News&src_src=News&utm_campaign=breaking-2023-06-06-1&src_cmp=breaking-2023-06-06-1&utm_medium=email&est=gc6QsAvlFu0dO5FfW79E2KxQFjWnihKn8OQp3HQ6RrXsgOxRKp3zFIENXdZ29xbl9rTf
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https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/06/08/our-free-press-is-no-longer-laughing-off-the-kennedy-campaign-but-they-still-wont-report-it-honestly-because-their-purpose-is-to-keep-us-in-the-dark/
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"Having laid out that conundrum, Yahoo’s scribe provides a rundown of Bobby’s craziest ideas:
"Kennedy was among the most popular proponents of the debunked theory that vaccines cause autism, which helped fuel the rise to the modern anti-vaccine movement. He was also identified by researchers as one of the “disinformation dozen” a small group of people responsible for spreading the majority of false claims about the safety and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines. Beyond vaccines, Kennedy has claimed that 5G networking technology will be used to “control our behavior,” blamed the U.S. and Ukraine for provoking Russia’s invasion, accused George W. Bush of stealing the 2004 presidential election, called for p[eople who deny climate change to be jailed, suggested antidepressants may be causing school shootings, and strongly insinuated that both his father and uncle were murdered by U.S. intelligence agencies."
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr-s-dismissal-of-china-military-threat-dangerously-naive-retired-colonel_5325794.html?utm_source=China&src_src=China&utm_campaign=uschina-2023-06-12&src_cmp=uschina-2023-06-12&utm_medium=email
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-rfk-jr-says-he-must-be-careful-cia-doesnt-assassinate-him
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Common Herbicide Could Be Causing Sexual Dysphoria: Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Herbicide atrazine linked to feminization of frogs: 10 percent of males became fully viable females
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Jun 16 2023
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Commonly used herbicide atrazine has been linked to demasculinization and forced feminization in frogs, raising concerns about exposure in humans. (ShutterStock)
Commonly used herbicide atrazine has been linked to demasculinization and forced feminization in frogs, raising concerns about exposure in humans. (ShutterStock)
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In a recent interview with Jordan B. Peterson, presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said he thinks many of the causes of sexual dysphoria, particularly with boys, are coming from chemical exposure. In particular, he mentioned the widely used herbicide atrazine.
In the June 5 interview, Peterson and Kennedy discussed a wide range of topics including Kennedy’s presidential bid. When the conversation turned to environmental issues, Kennedy noted that the “huge levels of depression” seen in today’s kids, as well as “a lot of the sexual dysphoria that we’re seeing” may be the result of toxic chemicals.
“These kids are swimming through a soup of toxic chemicals today, and many of those are endocrine disruptors,” Kennedy stressed.
Kennedy said that one of the big issues is atrazine, which he says can be found “throughout our water supply.” He went on to reference a study in which male frogs were exposed to atrazine in a tank, leading to their chemical castration and forced feminization.
Even more concerning, he noted that the study found 10 percent of the male frogs turned into “fully viable females, able to produce viable eggs.”
“If it’s doing that to frogs, there’s a lot of other evidence that it’s doing it to human beings as well,” Kennedy stressed.
The Science
The study Kennedy referred to was led by Tyrone B. Hayes, professor of integrative biology at the University of California, Berkeley. It was published in March 2010 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
The study noted that atrazine is one of the most commonly used pesticides in the world, as well as the most commonly detected pesticide contaminant. It taints ground, surface, and drinking water and can travel via rainfall over 620 miles from its application site.
The authors stressed that the herbicide is a potent endocrine disruptor, even at low levels. Previous studies showed adverse effects including hermaphroditism, reduced testicular volume, and lowered testosterone. The herbicide is also associated with both the demasculinization and feminization of male amphibians.
The study examined the long-term effects of atrazine on reproductive function in a genetically male population of African clawed frogs.
The male frogs were exposed to 2.5 parts per billion (ppb) of atrazine starting when they were tadpoles and continuing for up to three years after they metamorphosed into adults.
Ninety percent of the atrazine-exposed males appeared male, but suffered from depressed testosterone, decreased breeding gland size, decreased sperm production, feminized laryngeal (vocal) development, suppressed mating behavior, reduced spermatogenesis, and decreased fertility.
Functionally Female Frogs
Significantly, after exposure to atrazine, ten percent of the genetic males developed into fully functional females with ovaries, producing viable eggs.
Two of the male-turned-female frogs were mated with control males and produced offspring. Further testing confirmed that these atrazine-exposed male frogs, although now functionally female (have undergone complete feminization) were in fact still chromosomal males.
In a 2018 keynote presentation, Hayes explained that exposure to atrazine induces the activation of an enzyme called aromatase. Aromatase converts androgens, which are involved in male sexual development, to different forms of the female hormone estrogen. In the atrazine-exposed frogs, aromatase converted testosterone into estrogen, leading to the feminization of male frogs.
According to Hayes, mammals—including humans—will not have the same extreme egg-producing reaction as reptiles and amphibians when exposed to atrazine. However, he noted that aromatase induced by atrazine exposure promotes breast cancer and prostate cancer.
Big Pharma, Big Herbicides
In fact, aromatase is so important as a cause of breast cancer that one of the leading treatments for breast cancer is a non-steroidal aromatase inhibitor called Letrozole, Hayes said.
The developer of Letrozole is pharmaceutical giant Novartis AG.
Interestingly, in a 2003 toxicological profile, the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) lists Novartis Crop Protection, Inc. as one of six companies registered to produce products (pdf) containing atrazine.
Novartis Crop Protection was an affiliate of Novartis AG. In 2000, Novartis spun off its Crop Protection and Seeds sectors, merging them with AstraZeneca Agrochemicals to form Syngenta. Today, Syngenta is the chief manufacturer of atrazine, according to the Center for Food Safety. Syngenta was acquired by ChemChina in 2017.
Another study Hayes mentioned in his presentation was published in Environmental Health Perspectives in 1997. It found that Kentucky women who were exposed to well water with medium to high levels of atrazine had a statistically significant increase in breast cancer risk, compared to women who did not drink the contaminated well water.
The study notes that “The results suggest a relationship between exposure to triazine herbicides and increased breast cancer risk, but conclusions concerning causality cannot be drawn, due to the limitations inherent in ecologic study design.”
Per the EPA website, atrazine is chemically related to two other herbicides, simazine and propazine, which together are called triazines.
Hayes emphasized that his study was not a singular study, but rather a comprehensive body of research.
In fact, 22 independent research studies, conducted in 12 different countries have examined the effects of atrazine exposure on various species such as fish, reptiles, amphibians, mammals, and birds.
These studies consistently reported similar findings, including the absence of sperm production, demasculinization, and feminization as a result of atrazine exposure, he said.
The 22 scientists worked together and consolidated their data, publishing it in a paper titled “Demasculinization and Feminization of Male Gonads by Atrazine: Consistent Effects Across Vertebrate Classes” in October 2011 in The Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology.
Known Harms Reported by US Agencies
In 2003, seven years before the study by Hayes, a detailed toxicological profile of atrazine (pdf) was issued by the ATSDR. The agency is part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
The report cited studies indicating that atrazine affects health in several ways: “One of the primary ways that atrazine can affect your health is by altering the way that the reproductive system works,” it stated.
“Atrazine has been shown to cause changes in blood hormone levels in animals that affected the ability to reproduce,” the report continued. “Some of the specific effects observed in animals are not likely to occur in animals because of biological differences between humans and these types of animals. However, atrazine may affect the reproductive system in humans by a different mechanism.”
“Atrazine also caused liver, kidney, and heart damage in animals; it is possible that atrazine could cause these effects in humans,” the report warned, although it admitted that this possibility had not been studied.
72 Million Pounds a Year
The report noted the widespread use of atrazine in the United States, although it is a restricted-use herbicide, meaning that it is not available to the general public.
An Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) memorandum on the use of atrazine, published in July 2022, noted that the herbicide is registered for use in agricultural crops, including field corn, sweet corn, sorghum, sugarcane, macadamia nuts, and guava. It is also registered for non-agricultural uses such as in nursery or ornamental plantings, turf, and rights-of-way (excluding roadsides). The memo noted that field corn, sweet corn, sorghum, and sugarcane are the most important agricultural use sites for the chemical.
Between 2013 and 2017, an annual average of 72 million pounds of atrazine was used in agriculture.
The ATSDR report noted that atrazine has the potential to be carried through the air or be washed away from the soil by rain, ultimately finding its way into nearby streams, lakes, and other waterways. Moreover, it can penetrate deeper layers of soil and contaminate groundwater. Additionally, plants growing in these areas can absorb atrazine.
Once atrazine enters streams, waterways, or groundwater, it tends to persist for extended periods due to its slow breakdown in water.
According to a June 2023 Market Watch report, the global atrazine market size was estimated to be worth $1916.9 million in 2022. It is forecast to grow to $2342.7 million by 2028.
EPA’s 2021 Biological Evaluation
In November 2021, the EPA issued the finalized version of its Biological Evaluation (BE) of the herbicides atrazine, glyphosate, and simazine, examining the potential risks to endangered and threatened species from these herbicides.
The assessment was conducted as part of a legal agreement between the Center for Biological Diversity and the EPA.
The BE found that all three herbicides are “likely to adversely affect” species listed under the Endangered Species Act, or their designated habitats.
The EPA announced in 2021 that atrazine and simazine are prohibited in Hawaii, Alaska, and the U.S. territories.
Additionally, atrazine will no longer be used “on roadsides, Conservation Reserve Program land, conifers, including Christmas tree plantings, timber and forestry areas, and miscanthus and other perennial bioenergy crops,” according to the EPA release.
A Syngenta representative responded to The Epoch Times regarding questions on the safety of artrazine. The response said the herbicide was primarily used to control weeds in corn, sorghum, and sugar cane crops.
“Herbicides are crucial tools for helping farmers manage weeds and significantly increase crop yields while decreasing the amount of tillage, which prevents soil erosion and greenhouse gas emissions, and improves water and wildlife habitat,” it continued.
“Atrazine has been extensively studied over the past 50 years. Nearly 7,000 studies have concluded it is safe for humans and the environment and it has been approved by international organizations and governments around the world.”
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-rfk-jr-says-he-must-be-careful-cia-doesnt-assassinate-him?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1581
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/poll-shows-rfk-jr-with-highest-favorability-rating-of-all-presidential-candidates_5339672.html?utm_source=Goodevening&src_src=Goodevening&utm_campaign=gv-2023-06-17&src_cmp=gv-2023-06-17&utm_medium=email
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr-s-dismissal-of-china-military-threat-dangerously-naive-retired-colonel_5325794.html?utm_source=China&src_src=China&utm_campaign=uschina-2023-06-18&src_cmp=uschina-2023-06-18&utm_medium=email
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https://resistthemainstream.com/youtube-strikes-down-petersons-rfk-jr-interview-cites-violation-of-vaccine-policy/?utm_source=newsletter1
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https://americanwirenews.com/tucker-uncovers-why-rfk-jr-is-even-more-hated-than-trump-in-latest-fire-twitter-episode/?utm_campaign=james&utm_content=6%2F23%2F23%20SOE%20AM&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=Get%20response&utm_term=email
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67 year-old Bill Gates is a "health expert" 69 year old RFK is a "science denier".
https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=852,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/media_attachments/files/141/360/191/original/b6709b3c8a031c1e.png
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https://www.oann.com/newsroom/rfk-jr-says-more-gun-control-cant-meaningfully-reduce-gun-violence/
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https://www.oann.com/newsroom/rfk-jr-says-more-gun-control-cant-meaningfully-reduce-gun-violence/
You know the DNC machine hates him at near Trump levels.
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RFK Jr. Meets the Party of 'Shut up!'
By Roger Simon
It’s been a few days now since I motored to Memphis, Tennessee, from Nashville to interview Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as part of the Presidential Roller Coaster 2024 series.
The first of these, with Vivek Ramaswamy, has already aired on Epoch TV and NTD. The second with RFK Jr. is being edited and will premiere on July 28.
Driving down, I admit to having what the French call “le trac,” often translated as “stage fright”—basically an attack of nerves.
Bobby, after all, is a Kennedy—they had a rather significant role in the dreams and aspirations of my generation.
Specifically in my case, Mr. Kennedy’s uncle, President John Fitzgerald Kennedy, was assassinated on my 20th birthday. I sat in a motel room in Saratoga Springs, New York, with my then-girlfriend, a Skidmore student, watching open-mouthed two days later as someone I learned was named Jack Ruby appeared out of nowhere and fatally shot Lee Harvey Oswald, the alleged presidential assassin.
How could such a thing have been allowed to happen?
As for Robert F. Kennedy père, either one or two days before he was shot (June 1968), I watched him speak amid nonstop cheering and shouts of “Viva!” to a largely Mexican American crowd in East Los Angeles. He was brilliant, charismatic, and destined to be our next president, I was then certain.
He would be the one to get us out of the Vietnam quagmire.
It turned out that Richard Nixon did.
On that three-hour-plus drive, I kept mulling over how much the Democratic Party had changed since then.
The party of free speech had become the party of “Shut up!”
The party of peace had become the party of endless missiles for Ukraine.
The party of “our bodies, ourselves” had become the party of "Take your vaccines and put on your mask or else."
How had that happened?
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And now, RFK Jr. had risen up like a ghost from the past to bring things back to sanity. I wondered if he could possibly succeed.
I knew on that same drive what a complex position he's in, running on ideas that many of which are anathema to his own party, while appealing to the constitutional inclinations of many libertarian-leaning Republicans, MAGA or not. (The interview was to take place in and around the libertarian FreedomFest.)
When I finally met him, he seemed rather normal, but also impressive in his depth of knowledge, something, I will be rude and say, I haven't seen frequently in politicians.
He was very interested in where things went wrong, particularly at that point when his uncle and Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev had developed a secret correspondence after the Cuban missile crisis, both with an interest in saving the world from nuclear annihilation, something that's so contemporary at this moment it can take your breath away.
And then the world fell in when JFK was assassinated, and Khrushchev no longer had a clandestine correspondent.
Whodunit? Bobby has some ideas that didn’t correspond with the Warren Commission. For decades, he had been fighting it. (Some of this was discussed in our video.)
Nevertheless, 60 years later, the man I met was a warm and decent-seeming guy, but there was a sense of anguish about him, a sadness in his eyes that on the slightest reflection is understandable given his life story. Being a child of privilege isn’t always all it’s cracked up to be.
And yet he has been superb at dealing with the "woke" left of his party many of us have been watching during confrontations at the recent congressional hearings. He is calm, respectful, and to the point—the very opposite of his frequently enraged adversaries.
They literally can’t bear to hear what he’s saying. To say they are triggered is an understatement. They are simply out of their minds.
Most bizarre is they accuse him of racism and anti-Semitism. Don’t they realize the history of the Kennedys as leaders of the civil rights movement or that RFK Jr. himself is a strong supporter of Israel?
Or is the support of Israel to them anti-Semitic? It seems to have gone that far.
Listening to these people has become unbearable. With the media in support, they aim to make RFK Jr. a non-person before too much of the public hears what he has to say and quite possibly begins to think he's making sense.
I intend to remain in his corner, even if I disagree with him on some issues. What he is trying to do is too important, arguably more important than anyone at this moment in our history.
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Not because they are Jews but because they are very rabid, vicious, unforgiving partisan Democrats who indeed also think of themselves as righteous:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/07/24/new-york-venue-cancels-robert-f-kennedy-jr-pro-israel-lecture/
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IIRC the Ethical Culture Society is an umbrella organization for Fieldston, where I went for grades 7-10 and two weeks of grade 11, at which point I was thrown out.
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"Fieldston"
never heard of it .
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https://www.ecfs.org/
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wonder if these same champions of ethics are denouncing the Biden family for obvious crimes
or the lawyer crowd who protect them....
doubt it.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hannity-visibly-frustrated-rfk-jr-dismantles-ukraine-talking-points?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1691
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hannity-visibly-frustrated-rfk-jr-dismantles-ukraine-talking-points?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1691
Same talking points, both sides. Hannity, no awareness of mistakes made by the west. RFK thinks Putin was minding his own business and NATO just suddenly started coming toward him for no reason. He thinks Ukraine, US, NATO should accept whatever terms Putin dictates
Might as well give him Poland and the Baltic states while they're making agreements, and maybe East Germany too. Then we'd have peace!
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Found this looking for a longer account of the discussion:
https://www.newsweek.com/robert-kennedy-jr-rfk-sean-hannity-private-jet-use-1799084
Environmentalists on private jets, oops.
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I would add that RFK is weak on China too.
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/08/14/full_interview_robert_f_kennedy_jr_talks_to_tucker_carlson_about_secret_service_neocons_assassinations.html
RFK is refused Secret Service protection. Hunter gets their protection.
RFK Jr. said Ukraine war proponents are giving a "comic book" depiction of the situation: a bad guy, Putin, and that the United States, the good guys, need to stop him.
(Doug) Yes that overlooks other dynamics but ...
the first "Ukraine war proponent" is Putin, not the people he is referring to. And Putin IS the bad guy and we are the good guys. ). The issue (in my view) is, what do we want to do about that?
80 minute interview.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-democratic-party-rigs-the-primaries-candidate-election-voter-new-hampshire-georgia-dnc-kennedy-nominee-326c63d6?mod=opinion_lead_pos10
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https://www.judicialwatch.org/rfk-jr-denied-protection/?utm_source=deployer&utm_medium=email&utm_content=&utm_campaign=tipsheet&utm_term=members
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https://www.prageru.com/video/ep-308-dennis-prager-and-robert-f-kennedy-jr?fbclid=IwAR0YS45z3MLHTdntpvBLTKalnsBXIx_2gBg0uw5eJvh4Kd_bDkDj2rhjwqA
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3231043/How-serial-cheater-Bobby-Kennedy-Jr-strutted-family-home-exposing-private-parts-demanded-m-nage-trois-wife-Mary-went-public-Cheryl-Hines-telling-Mary-things-easier-killed-herself.html
Good thing he's not a Republican. This would kill his political career.
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I wonder which Kennedy got the most girls?
I suspect it was JFK.
one report which could be BS was while President he was having a girl snuck in daily.....
hard to believe
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I wonder which Kennedy got the most girls?
I suspect it was JFK.
one report which could be BS was while President he was having a girl snuck in daily.....
hard to believe
And they kept it a secret (JFK filth). Even then we had a biased, fawning press. Trump's worst trouble of that type include a weak accusation of nearly 20 years ago ("Stormy") and a clandestine tape of a man expressing a crude fantasy.
Can't help but think of a close friend, moderate Republican leaning, who voted for Biden because of integrity. (My daughter thinks that too.). Can't convince them integrity isn't on the ballot in a Biden Trump race.
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Slow times on the RFK thread... He had a surprise Super Bowl ad (independent expenditure?) that he apologized to his family for:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rfk-jr-drops-surprise-campaign-ad-during-super-bowl-vote-independent
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rfk-jr-apologizes-family-super-bowl-ad-claims-no-involvement
Let me check my math. If you were a voter in 1960 and helped elect JFK, voting age then was 21, you would be 85 years old now or older. You might remember JFK was famous for growth economics, 'a rising tide lifts all boats', hawkish American defense, it's "what you can do for your country" not the other way around, and I believe JFK was pro-vaccine.
If you loved JFK then and are paying attention today, who would you vote for in 2024? I would argue Trump, but unlikely that group will determine the outcome.
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It was one weird ad , , ,
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It was one weird ad , , ,
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/despite-super-bowl-ad-rfk-jr-is-no-jfk/ar-BB1iaSDE
Some "independent" group is responsible for the ad but RFK Jr is tweeting it?
RFK Jr is a Democrat. He ran for the Democratic nomination for President, not in some other cycle, in this one. Like Pence, Tim Scott, Ron DeSantis and Vivek, he lost and lost his nomination race early. Then he runs as an "independent" which allows him ballot access without having to win a single primary.
So his new buzzword is "Independent" to be repeated ad nauseum while running on his family's background in the Democratic Party. He is independent not by choice but because his party rejected him - as a flake for one thing.
If he's so proud to be related to his uncles, why not tweet the movie "Chappaquiddick", where Kennedy family power prevailed over justice for the cruel death of another family's daughter.
Was that suggestion over the top? When did RFK Jr condemn the actions of his uncle and his family in this despicable event? While they were deliberating over how to protect him and his political future, she was breathing the last molecules of oxygen in the sunken car. Never paid a price for it, criminal or political. A search of such a condemnation brings up only a family condemnation of him:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/07/17/nation/rfk-jr-antisemetic-comment-condemnation-sister-kerry-kennedy/
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https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/rfk-jr-nicole-shanahan-vp-pick/
She paid for his Super Bowl ad.
She is known for her expertise in economics, foreign policy money.
We'll see. He floats a new name quite often.
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Oy vey.
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https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/rfk-jr-nicole-shanahan-vp-pick/
She paid for his Super Bowl ad.
She is known for her expertise in economics, foreign policy money.
We'll see. He floats a new name quite often.
https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1772644255430762551
RFK jr self identifies as far-Left with VP pick.
This is good, I think.
Kennedy was treated badly by the Democrats? Biden wouldn't debate? Well now he has money and at least some ballot access.
The head fake Libertarian didn't make any sense though they still may try it for more ballot access. There is absolutely no connection between far-Leftism and libertarianism IMHO.
My question, what primary did he win to get on ANY ballot. Why don't all the independents have to face off like real parties do?
To consolidate the Democrat-Left vote and try to win, Biden-Harris should drop out.
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Sounds like she has very brief but lucrative marriages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Shanahan
The divorce was finalized in 2023.[2][3] In 2022, the Wall Street Journal reported that a reason for the breakup was a "brief affair" in 2021 between Shanahan and Elon Musk.[35][32] Shanahan[7] and Musk denied the report.[36] The Wall Street Journal said: "We are confident in our sourcing, and we stand by our reporting."[7]
Unverified, but if true she risked her marriage with a google founder to sleep with the world's richest guy. Kamala must be jealous.
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This point is already moot but let's bury it forever. This guy is a radical left winger and I hope he takes away all the radical left wing votes he can get. He is a name caller and a hater with vitriol way preceding what they think is offensive from DJT.
I tried to find uotes and links from someone else's compilation. (Older source links disappearing)
https://www.independentsentinel.com/rfk-endorses-aocs-green-new-deal-calls-for-climate-taxation/
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/23/robert-kennedy-jr-we-need-laws-punish-global-warmi/
Hog farmers(?) a bigger threat than Osama bin Laden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWQ8KHj8Az4
https://www.climatedepot.com/2014/09/21/robert-f-kennedy-jr-wants-to-jail-his-political-opponents-accuses-koch-brothers-of-treason-they-ought-to-be-serving-time-for-it/
6/24/2007 on "Hardball", blamed the 9/11 attacks at the World Trade Center on President Reagan’s rollback of CAFE standards in 1986.
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Many of the problems of today, Kennedy traced back to actions taken by Reagan. Kennedy believes the American people are fed a media diet of right-wing propaganda, and it "all started in 1988 when Ronald Reagan abolished the Fairness Doctrine. The Fairness Doctrine said that the airwaves belong to the public. They were public-trust assets, like air and water, and broadcasters could be licensed to use them" but they must use them in the public interest and to advance democracy.
If the Fairness Doctrine was still in place, "You could not have a Fox News," he said, nor a Rush Limbaugh, for that matter. But the doctrine is gone and Fox and Limbaugh are here. Quoting Pew Research, Kennedy said, 30 percent of Americans now get their news from talk radio, which is 90 percent dominated by the right. Another large number of Americans say their primary news source is Fox News, which Kennedy clearly believed would be better named Faux News.
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2/8/2014, On Friday, MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell gave left-wing environmental activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. a platform to denounce the Keystone Pipeline. Kennedy ranted: "The people who are promoting this are the Koch brothers, who spent $2 million trying to hurt him [Obama], the Tea Party people in Congress, and the Republicans who have been trying to block every part of his agenda.
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3/7/2012 “Speaking of prostitutes, big oil’s top call girl Sen Inhofe wants to kill fuel economy backed by automakers, small biz, enviros, & consumers,” the New York-based environmentalist wrote Tuesday on Twitter.
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11/16/2011 President John F. Kennedy’s nephew, Robert Kennedy, Jr., netted a $1.4 billion bailout for his company, BrightSource, through a loan guarantee issued by a former employee-turned Department of Energy official. It’s just one more in a string of eye-opening revelations by investigative journalist and Breitbart editor Peter Schweizer in his explosive new book, Throw Them All Out.
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Endorses Charlie Crist, Attacks Tea Party
10/13/10 Kennedy is asked about the tea party and why he is demonizing them, he responds by calling them 'crackpots'.
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RFK, Jr. 15 months ago: Global warming means no snow or cold in DC
Washington Examiner ^ | February 7, 2010 | David Freddoso
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who flies around on private planes so as to tell larger numbers of people how they must live their lives in order to save the planet, wrote a column last year on the lack of winter weather in Washington, D.C.
"In Virginia, the weather also has changed dramatically. Recently arrived residents in the northern suburbs, accustomed to today's anemic winters, might find it astonishing to learn that there were once ski runs on Ballantrae Hill in McLean, with a rope tow and local ski club. Snow is so scarce today that most Virginia children probably don't own a sled. But neighbors came to our home at Hickory Hill nearly every winter weekend to ride saucers and Flexible Flyers.
"In those days, I recall my uncle, President Kennedy, standing erect as he rode a toboggan in his top coat, never faltering until he slid into the boxwood at the bottom of the hill. Once, my father, Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy, brought a delegation of visiting Eskimos home from the Justice Department for lunch at our house. They spent the afternoon building a great igloo in the deep snow in our backyard. My brothers and sisters played in the structure for several weeks before it began to melt. On weekend afternoons, we commonly joined hundreds of Georgetown residents for ice skating on Washington's C&O Canal, which these days rarely freezes enough to safely skate.
"Meanwhile, Exxon Mobil and its carbon cronies continue to pour money into think tanks whose purpose is to deceive the American public into believing that global warming is a fantasy."
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6/13/2009, Boston Herald
JACKSON, Miss. - Robert Kennedy Jr. says that some right-wing broadcast hosts are feeding the sort of hatred behind this year.
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2008: "The stuff that ACORN was involved in really was people who were working for ACORN defrauding ACORN."
https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/lkl/date/2008-10-17/segment/01
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7/11/2007 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. joined Neal Cavuto to discuss his hateful remarks at last weekend’s ‘Live Earth’ concert. Kennedy. Jr. called Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity, among others, flat-earthers and traitors for being skeptical of global warming.
The other person he included in his tirade was ABC host John Stossel. Stossel joined the show after a commercial break to go head-to-head with Kennedy Jr. All Kennedy could seem to do is say there is a consensus that there is global warming and call Mr. Stossel a liar, a typical liberal tactic.
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The Incredible Shrinking Credibility of RFK, Jr.
RealClearPolitics ^ | June 7, 2006 | Tom Bevan
Posted on 6/7/2006, 12:01:47 AM by RWR8189
If the current trend continues, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is going to end up being involved in the journalistic equivalent of the Bay of Pigs. His article in the latest issue of Rolling Stone Republicans stole the 2004 election in Ohio is coming under a massive assault - and from the unlikeliest of places. Monday in Salon, Farhad Manjoo reduced RFK, Jr.'s seemingly authoritative argument to rubble. Democratic pollster Mark Blumenthal followed suit later the same day by taking down Kennedy's claim that exit polling is an "exact science" and highlighting how he either misinterpreted or willfully distorted numerous aspects of exit poll analysis contained in the Edison-Mitofsky report.
Last Friday RFK, Jr. asserted on CNN, "There's no legitimate dispute that there was a massive, concerted, deliberate effort by high level-Republican Party officials to fix the election in Ohio. And the press has not covered this issue."
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Aug. 30, 2005 | NewsMax.com
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is blaming Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, along with President Bush, for causing Hurricane Katrina.
"As Hurricane Katrina dismantles Mississippi’s Gulf Coast, it’s worth recalling the central role that Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour played in derailing the Kyoto Protocol and kiboshing President Bush’s iron-clad campaign promise to regulate CO2," Kennedy blogged Tuesday on HuffingtonPost.com.
The influential Democrat's enviro-conspiracy theory had the sinister Gov. Barbour engineering Bush's energy policy on behalf of "the president’s major donors from the fossil fuel industry." Kennedy charges that in March 2001, the former Republican National Committee chairman issued "an urgent memo to the White House" on CO2 emissions.
With that, the president dropped his pro-environment campaign promise like a hot potato.
Because of Bush and Barbour's CO2 folly, said Kennedy: "Now we are all learning what it’s like to reap the whirlwind of fossil fuel dependence which Barbour and his cronies have encouraged."
RFK, Jr. even suggested that Katrina's last minute detour through Mississippi was a bit of Divine payback, declaring:
"Perhaps it was Barbour’s memo that caused Katrina, at the last moment, to spare New Orleans and save its worst flailings for the Mississippi coast."
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RFK Jr: You know, my uncle was also shot amid a climate of right-wing hate
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/01/12/rfk-jr-you-know-my-uncle-was-also-shot-amid-a-climate-of-right-wing-hate/ ^
No mention Oswald was a communist.
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End of snow forever in DC
RFK jr.com ^ | September 24, 2008
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GREAT post and a great example of the research resource this forum is.
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Piece asks an interesting question: as Kennedy’s infidelities are so well known, why haven’t Dems said as much, given that RFK is presented as an existential threat to the reelection of the husk that was once Joe Biden:
https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2024/03/28/why-arent-dems-talking-about-rfk-jrs-dirtiest-not-so-secret-n4927737
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:-o :-o :-o
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A wife, 4 children, and a book full of cheating. Binders of women, and not Romney style. Why is this not the least bit surprising. Why do people like that even want to go into public life - even though his life is already public.
Democrats are about to go ruthless on one of their own.
Maybe little bobby will retaliate by bringing back Tara Reade stories and more where that came from.
Maybe Trump is the cleanest one running.
I wanted to add to the RFKjr saga, the man won't be welcome on NBC because of his election denying past.
Unless of course they have two standards for good and bad election denying.
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Have not watched this, but the title tease is tempting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ikcyVzWSyU
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1788192284736966738
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1788192284736966738
- Further reports indicate the worm eating his brain died of starvation.
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A good point:
RFK Jr. used to keep track of his affairs in a ledger. He cheated on his wife so often that by his own admission, just driving home without stopping to cheat on her was a great success. His wife was so troubled that she ended up killing herself.
You will never hear the MSM or politicians question his decency. They might call him a conspiracy theorist but they don’t bring up his personal life. Just like they don’t call out Biden for his lies, including the ridiculous fable of how he met Jill.
Trump’s entire life has been investigated and it’s actually shocking at how little wrong they have found. Imagine what would be found if RFK Jr. or Biden or any other politician was investigated in the same way that Trump has been the past eight years.
https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1790194581348200689?s=12
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm7JbhyBIWM
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In June of 2023 I posted this on this thread:
"Having laid out that conundrum, Yahoo’s scribe provides a rundown of Bobby’s craziest ideas:
"Kennedy was among the most popular proponents of the debunked theory that vaccines cause autism, which helped fuel the rise to the modern anti-vaccine movement. He was also identified by researchers as one of the “disinformation dozen” a small group of people responsible for spreading the majority of false claims about the safety and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines.
MARC: Look at how we have changed our thinking on this one!
Beyond vaccines, Kennedy has claimed that 5G networking technology will be used to “control our behavior,” blamed the U.S. and Ukraine for provoking Russia’s invasion,
MARC: Concur.
accused George W. Bush of stealing the 2004 presidential election, called for p[eople who deny climate change to be jailed, suggested antidepressants may be causing school shootings,
MARC: A question worth askng.
and strongly insinuated that both his father and uncle were murdered by U.S. intelligence agencies."
MARC: I gather that Tucker thinks the CIA was behind JFK's kill.
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https://www.bizpacreview.com/2024/06/16/rfk-jr-calls-for-elimination-of-electronic-voting-machines-elon-musk-agrees-1466160/?utm_campaign=bizpac&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_source=Get%20Response&utm_term=EMAIL
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https://nypost.com/2024/08/14/us-news/rfk-jr-sought-meeting-with-kamala-harris-to-discuss-cabinet-job-in-exchange-for-endorsement/?
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rfk-jr-endorses-trump-and-suspends-presidential-campaign/ar-AA1pkB0j?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=fc2cdb49499f49119e6d4baa714193b4&ei=11
I think this would help.
Can anyone imagine what the other clansmembers are thinking of their relative right now?! 8-)
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Listening to him right now at Trump rally in AZ. STRONG response from the crowd.
Bobby begins at 1:02:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8jRnvK5W4M&t=3s
Have not watched it yet but I am told it is brutal.
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Listening to him right now at Trump rally in AZ. STRONG response from the crowd.
Bobby begins at 1:02:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8jRnvK5W4M&t=3s
Have not watched it yet but I am told it is brutal.
Wow, this is big.
The peace through strength and prosperity people merge with environmental movement. Who could have seen that coming? Wait, we've been calling for that for years.
Maybe the soccer Moms will want to get plastic out of their kids' foods instead of just watch Democrats give our money to each other for no purpose.
The news steps on the convention that had no message.
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"peace through strength and prosperity people merge with environmental movement. Who could have seen that coming? Wait, we've been calling for that for years."
:-D
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listened to the full 50 minutes.
very articulate unlike the inarticulate Harris
states and explains the DNC media corruption as well as anyone.
Discusses the suppression of free speech by the government and Biden/Harris administration quite well.
Discussed the corruption behind the Ukraine - Russian war. Is it true Zelensky had already signed a treaty over the Donbass prior to the war and then UK Boris at US request got him to tear it up?
His putting the obesity and all that comes with it front and center.
We have successfully reduced by huge numbers cigarette smoking but now face a complete obesity epidemic.
Agree with some but not all his conclusions about its' cause or the solutions but definitely he makes good points.
while PBS broadcast this speech on its station I doubt we will hear from them any positive reviews on it from them later.
CNN Abby Phillips already bashing him last night along with some other dudes.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kennedy-siblings-rip-rfk-jr-for-endorsing-trump-a-betrayal-of-family-values/ar-AA1pkx6V?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=3fed0a8c432f4285b9065a02b462d57f&ei=34
Was it RFK Jr. or someone else who said the Catholic Democrats are like the Jewish Democrats (maybe it was Mark Levin)
Party is first, and above and beyond anything else (except their own enrichment). Damn the religion , the USA, any opposition etc. Just Democrat party no matter what .
Actually, I believed JFK Jr. that the values of Trump align more closely with JFK then the present Kennedy Schlosberg, Shriver (KSS) clan.
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https://www.malone.news/p/rfk-jr-full-speech-also-as-text?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=583200&post_id=148060007&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=z2120&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
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Trump Can Make America Healthy Again
Chronic diseases have reached crisis proportions, and Kamala Harris seems uninterested in the issue.
By Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Sept. 5, 2024 1:45 pm ET
In my speech endorsing Donald Trump, I said we need to love our kids more than we hate each other. That means coming together to address common problems, and few are more urgent than the chronic-disease crisis. Americans are becoming sicker, beset by illnesses that our medical system isn’t addressing effectively. These trends harm us, our economy and our global standing.
Among American teens, close to 30% are prediabetic. More than 18% of young adults have nonalchoholic fatty liver disease. More than 40% of adults 22 to 44 are obese, according to a 2023 study. In 2020, 77% of young adults didn’t qualify for the military based on their health scores, forcing the military to lower its standards.
Six out of 10 adults in America are living with a chronic illness. Seventy-four percent of American adults are overweight or obese. Rates of kidney disease and autoimmune conditions are going up. Cancer rates among young people are rising. This is despite Americans spending more and more to treat many of these conditions. U.S. life expectancy is markedly lower than in every other developed country, with wide disparities between income classes.
This crisis is the product of broken incentives. There is nothing more profitable for much of the healthcare system than a sick child. Americans with chronic conditions are often put on medications or treatments for the rest of their lives. Nearly 30% of teens have reportedly used prescription drugs in the past 30 days, according to data from the prescription discount service SingleCare.
Mr. Trump has made reforming broken institutions a cornerstone of his political life. He has become the voice of countless Americans who have been let down by our elites. He could unite the country by making it his priority to make America healthy again. Here are some specific policy ideas:
• Reform the Prescription Drug User Fee Act. Pharmaceutical companies pay a fee every time they apply for a new drug approval, and this money makes up about 75% of the budget of the Food and Drug Administration’s drug division. That creates a barrier to entry to smaller firms and puts bureaucrats’ purse strings in the hands of the pharmaceutical industry.
• Prohibit members of the U.S. Department of Agriculture Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee from making money from food or drug companies. Ninety-five percent of the members of a USDA panel charged with most recently updating nutrition guidelines had conflicts of interest. This is from the same government that brought you a National Institutes of Health research finding that Lucky Charms are healthier than ground beef.
• Review direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical ad guidelines. The U.S. and New Zealand are the only countries that allow pharmaceutical companies to advertise directly to the public. News channels are filled with drug commercials, and reasonable viewers may question whether their dependence on these ads influences their coverage of health issues.
• Change federal regulation so that NIH funds can’t go to researchers with conflicts of interest. A 2019 ProPublica analysis of disclosures going back to 2012 found that over 8,000 federally funded health researchers reported significant financial conflicts of interest.
• Level the playing field for Americans internationally on drug costs. Today in Germany, Ozempic costs less than a tenth of what it does in the U.S. because while Berlin negotiates prices on behalf of all Germans, Washington can’t do the same. Legislators should cap drug prices so that companies can’t charge Americans substantially more than Europeans pay.
• Stop allowing beneficiaries of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program to use their food stamps to buy soda or processed foods. Nine percent of all SNAP funding goes to sweetened drinks, according to 2011 data. It’s nonsensical for U.S. taxpayers to spend tens of billions of dollars subsidizing junk that harms the health of low-income Americans.
• Revisit pesticide and other chemical-use standards. As of 2019, the U.S. allowed 72 pesticides that the European Union bans. We also allow chemicals in food and skin care that the bloc doesn’t. Some of these chemicals are quite common to our daily lives. Though glyphosate isn’t currently banned EU-wide due to disagreement between member states, it’s approved for use only through the end of 2033, when the issue will be revisited. Meanwhile in the U.S. the University of California, San Francisco, in 2015 found the chemical in 93% of the urine samples it studied.
• Require nutrition classes and functional medicine in federally funded medical schools. Today, 7 out of 10 of the leading killers of Americans are chronic diseases that are preventable, sometimes through improved eating habits. Yet about 80% of medical schools don’t require a course in nutrition.
• Reform crop subsidies. They make corn, soybeans and wheat artificially cheap, so those crops end up in many processed forms. Soybean oil in the 1990s became a major source of American calories, and high-fructose corn syrup is everywhere. Our subsidy program is so backward that less than 2% of farm subsidies go to fruits and vegetables.
• Issue new presidential fitness standards. My uncle John F. Kennedy was right in 1960 when he wrote, “The physical vigor of our citizens is one of America’s most precious resources.” The Presidential Fitness Test that President Obama ditched should be reinstated.
• Devote half of research budgets from the NIH toward preventive, alternative and holistic approaches to health. In the current system, researchers don’t have enough incentive to study generic drugs and root-cause therapies that look at things like diet.
• Increase patient choice by giving every American a health savings account. HSAs are a bipartisan healthcare policy that saves Americans money and gives them financial support in healthcare outside insurance. In many cases, food and exercise interventions are clinically the best medicine. With an HSA, a pre-diabetic can choose with his doctor whether to devote medical dollars to a drug like metformin or a root-cause intervention like a gym membership.
Mr. Trump has told me he wants to make ending this chronic-disease calamity a key part of his legacy, while Kamala Harris has expressed no interest in this issue. His political courage and moral clarity about the danger of our compromised institutions give us the best opportunity in our lifetimes to revive America’s health.
Mr. Kennedy is an environmental lawyer and public health advocate.
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https://x.com/EndTribalism/status/1849219482696229250
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I believe RFK is referring to section 3.3c:
https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodd/524001p.PDF?ver=UpTwJ66AyyBgvy7wFyTGbA
one interpretation here about this:
https://sayerji.substack.com/p/fact-check-is-the-military-overreaching
obviously not likely a coincidence this is put forth just before the election.
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The Great RFK Jr. Charade
Why won’t the Senate take an opportunity to save Trump from a bad political deal?
Kimberley A. Strassel
Dec. 12, 2024 4:43 pm ET
The Republican Senate mantra these days is that a president is entitled to cabinet members he trusts to carry out his agenda. Does the same apply to a pick the president-elect has acknowledged is both unqualified and hostile to the most basic Republican ideals?
Welcome to the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. nomination, one of the more counterproductive Washington charades in recent history. Donald Trump has, in payback for late-stage election support, nominated a man for the vital cabinet position (health and human services) whom he once labeled a “Democrat Plant” and a bigger threat to the country than Joe Biden. Now meet the Republican senators, activists and influencers who are so clueless—and so blindly eager to salute the leader—that they can’t see the opportunity to save Mr. Trump from a deal he would never have made in other circumstances.
Mr. Trump was unvarnished (and accurate) in his judgment of Mr. Kennedy—until the third-party candidate suspended his presidential run in August. In a four-minute video in May and in other social-media posts, Mr. Trump laid out in-depth the Kennedy positions and history that deserved to make him a nonstarter with Republican and conservative voters and elected officials.
He’s a “Radical Left Liberal” who is “totally Anti-Gun, an Extreme Environmentalist who makes the Green New Scammers look Conservative, a Big Time Taxer and Open Border Advocate, and Anti-Military/Vet,” Mr. Trump said. He added that he’d even “take Biden over Junior” because under Mr. Kennedy the country “would collapse immediately.” “He’s not a Republican, so don’t think you’re going to vote for him and feel good. He’s a radical left Democrat. Let the Democrats have RFK Jr. They deserve him.”
Only, apparently, it’s now Republicans who do.
Mr. Trump wasn’t alone. Prior to Mr. Kennedy’s endorsement, the GOP universe was clear-eyed about the radical environmentalist who spent decades on a mission to destroy the Trump base. An online search finds pages of stories of Mr. Kennedy’s efforts to cripple farmers, ranchers, loggers and oil workers. Others outline his disdain for markets, core freedoms and limited government.
In 2023—well before Mr. Trump won the nomination—the Republican National Committee put out an RFK fact sheet listing dozens of offensive positions. His belief that the National Rifle Association is a “terror group”; his support of affirmative action to stop “self perpetuating” “racist policies”; his opposition to fracking and the Keystone Pipeline and his view that oil companies and “climate deniers” should be jailed or given “the death penalty”; his Hillary Clinton endorsements. Mr. Kennedy in 2016 explained that the real difference between Mr. Trump and Hitler was that Hitler had “a plan,” whereas Mr. Trump was “non compos mentis.” (Mr. Kennedy has since apologized for those remarks.)
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Some justifiers will point out that Mr. Trump routinely lambasts Republicans and later makes nice. (Nothing new here!) Others will say his Kennedy criticism was driven entirely by electoral politics. (He didn’t really mean it!) But this is different. Mr. Trump’s barbs against fellow Republicans stem from his perceptions of wavering loyalty, which explain his later reconciliations. His criticism of progressive Democrats like Nancy Pelosi or Bernie Sanders (or RFK Jr.) by contrast tend to be consistent—because they are rooted in what Mr. Trump correctly understands to be enormous worldview differences.
Until now—which ought to be a hint. It seems not to have occurred to Senate Republicans—who ought to have learned a little bit about Mr. Trump by now—that he needs a rescue here. No insider believes this is a heartfelt pick. Even political naïfs understand what happened: This agreement was entirely transactional. Mr. Trump saw an opportunity to gain RFK’s endorsement. The price was a promise of a big post. The president-elect is holding true to that deal as a businessman, so he won’t dare whisper misgivings for fear of leaks.
Instead Senate Republicans are playing monkey-see-monkey-do to an extent that even Mr. Trump must be exasperated. Nearly every GOP senator looks at Mr. Kennedy with wincing concern—knowing the havoc the anticapitalist big-government regulator can and will wreak on a Trump agenda. Yet no one steps up to save the president. If Joe Biden chose Hulk Hogan to be Treasury secretary, does anyone think Democrats would have let him step into that trap? But so desperate right now are Republicans to nod along that they are abdicating the real job of advice and consent—and protection.
Presidents do deserve the honor of naming their picks. But in today’s insane world of more than 1,000 Senate-confirmable positions even the most capable president will pick a lemon, a charlatan or, in this case, a person who had them over the barrel. The need for confirmation by a Senate majority exists in part to help the president, and to spare him—and the country—the future headache. The Senate ought to try it.
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Frankly , I hope the Senate votes down RFK
I am for the concept of looking how the FDA functions or other health care agencies and maybe a revamp being needed, but
I just don't like some of his ideas, or trust him
after all he is a DEM.
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From the Strassel article:
"His belief that the National Rifle Association is a “terror group”; his support of affirmative action to stop “self perpetuating” “racist policies”; his opposition to fracking and the Keystone Pipeline and his view that oil companies and “climate deniers” should be jailed or given “the death penalty”; his Hillary Clinton endorsements. Mr. Kennedy in 2016 explained that the real difference between Mr. Trump and Hitler was that Hitler had “a plan,” whereas Mr. Trump was “non compos mentis.” (Mr. Kennedy has since apologized for those remarks.)
Yes. He is a Democrat, a liberal Democrat, with over the top past statements, perhaps reformed, somewhat.
Yes he is high risk, could turn on Trump.
That said, there was an understanding with some voters that RFKjr would play some role in the new administration. He will not run EPA, ATF or energy policy. The limits of the Dept of HHS are largely set by the budget. His task, the way I see it, is to do the most possible with the money available. To me, that is nonpartisan. I may stand corrected over time.
Like Kash Patel, he has had his run-ins with the Department he will run.
He has upside risk. He may turn out to be quite a reformer. We need reform, and maybe there will be breakthroughs on who knows what, FDA, bureaucracy, regulations, break the health cartels and getting poisons out of our food and water. And maybe Republicans will get credit.
Maybe we'll finally see the JFK files...
He seems to have backed off some of his past extreme statements. I heard him say that all his children were fully vaccinated growing up, referring to pre-covid issues.
We aren't going to ban gas cars or power plants (or guns) at this point. He comes into this job knowing that.
My intuition says give Trump his picks. He's not afraid to fire them and he's not afraid of the embarrassment of them turning on him. There will be less of that this time than there was in the first term.
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/29/caroline_kennedy_my_cousin_is_a_predator_who_is_unfit_for_the_job_of_hhs_secretary.html
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https://parade.com/news/jack-schlossberg-jfk-grandson-warns-conspiracies-classified-assassination-files-release
So lets see for God's sake
everyone is dead and he was a public figure
so why the concealment of the docs?
and will we know for sure the docs themselves not doctored?
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Stipulate he has said and done a lot of things I don't approve of.
On the other side, like Secretary of Defense State, FBI, IRS, and so on, we need a disrupter and he offers that potential. We need better health, better costs, better delivery, better bureaucracy (or none). We need new thinking, a voice, a leader.
Given his very late break with Leftism, we also need constraints that his solutions won't be just that. Kennedy understands DJT is the President and he is serving in that administration.
Trump won and deserves his picks (absent some big discovery in the advise, consent process).
RFKjr made a major impact and a major break with the Democrats and a major inflection point in a tumultuous campaign that broke Trump's way. He deserves a chance at whatever deal he struck or whatever impact he made with the new President.
The status quo sucks. The job isn't all powerful, it has plenty of constraints. One nice feature of Trump is he's not afraid to fire quickly if things go wrong.
We all want poisons out of our food and water.
Vote to confirm and give better health a chance.
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Agree.
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https://patriotpost.us/articles/114065?mailing_id=8990&subscription_uuid=36e3d4d4-c349-40fa-9856-d1504ff07188&utm_medium=email&utm_source=pp.email.8990&utm_campaign=digest
Particularly catching my attention is where Bobby bobbed and weaved Forked Tongue's quite pertinent question about his personal gain from lawsuits against Big Pharma.
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https://patriotpost.us/articles/114065?mailing_id=8990&subscription_uuid=36e3d4d4-c349-40fa-9856-d1504ff07188&utm_medium=email&utm_source=pp.email.8990&utm_campaign=digest
Particularly catching my attention is where Bobby bobbed and weaved Forked Tongue's quite pertinent question about his personal gain from lawsuits against Big Pharma.
My snark back, kind of redundant to allege a lawyer in our system profited from his clients misfortune.
He profited from his name too and scored chicks with his name. But what will he do with our health care system, given the constraints of a Republican Congress and a Republican boss?
Who was the last HHS Secretary that reformed our health care system for the better? Can't think of one, but they all got confirmed, Republican and Democrat.
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Meghan Kelly had good podcast recently discussing RFK as well.
She pointed out that the Dem Senators inquisitioning him during hearings also took fairly large amounts from "BIG PHARMA"
including Elizabeth Warren.
Someone should ask Warren if she ever leaves her Senate grift gig will she promise never to work again! Or at least for 5 yrs and never again try to exert influence in government since this is her schpiel now asking every Trump nominee the same question.
She is such a dirtball
How about all Senators and Fed government employees sign agreements not to work in any way with government as advisors as board members as contractors once they leave their posts?
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To be clear, my approving comment about snark was about that of the Patriot Post piece I posted.
Certainly Forked Tongue's hypocrisy is as flagrant as it is to be expected of her.
That said, if I understand the point correctly, the Sec of HHS has no business of participating in profits from being private party to lawsuits against Big Pharma.
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Inspired by the memes of the week.
Left: " Kennedy is too anti-science."
The Left also: "Learn the 72 other genders."
https://www.medicinenet.com/what_are_the_72_other_genders/article.htm
Who put them in charge of science?