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Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 01, 2021, 07:19:25 AM
Gov. DeSantis had a whole hour on Mark Levine last night.  Added quite a bit to the already strong impression I had of him.

Apparently he came in second to Trump in the CPAC straw poll.

So, starting this thread on him.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on March 01, 2021, 08:54:53 AM
and why is Fried , another member of the temple of the DNC

who is somehow head of department of Agriculture
doing making a stink about corona vaccines?

she sends it up to rabid racist partisan Clyburn
who is some sore of vaccine "czar"

and then to all the DNC media outlets to bash DeSantis the day after CPAC

DNC - jornolister
tricks
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis will be the nominee
Post by: DougMacG on March 08, 2021, 06:42:11 AM
I like Kristi Noem but the Governor of a big swing state has faced greater testing than a small state Governor.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/541589-it-will-be-vice-or-president-harris-against-gov-desantis-in-2024-bet-on
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 14, 2021, 06:25:35 AM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/all-red-states-must-join-gov-desantis-to-restrain-big-tech_3732292.html?utm_source=morningbrief&utm_medium=email&email=craftydog@earthlink.net&utm_campaign=mb-2021-03-14
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis: Don't trust the elites
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 19, 2021, 02:29:32 PM
Ron DeSantis on the Pandemic Year: Don’t Trust the Elites
Influential people in public health, government and the media failed to rise to the moment

Spring-break crowds on the beach in Ft. Lauderdale last Sunday.
PHOTO: MEDIAPUNCH/ASSOCIATED PRESS
By Ron DeSantis
March 18, 2021 2:55 pm ET


The Covid-19 pandemic represented a test of elites in the U.S., from public-health experts to the corporate media. The results have been disappointing. Policy makers who bucked the elites and challenged the narrative have been proven right to do so.

To begin with, highly publicized epidemiological models were as consequential as they were wrong. The model produced by Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London—which forecast millions of Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. without mitigation efforts—sparked panic among public-health elites and served as the pretext for lockdowns throughout the U.S. and Great Britain. The lockdowns failed to stop the virus but did a great deal of societal damage along the way—damage that a more targeted approach, seeking to reduce total harms, would have been able to avoid (and did, in places like Sweden and Florida).

Similarly, models predicting massive shortages of hospital beds helped to precipitate the disastrous policy—enacted by states like New York, New Jersey and Michigan—to send contagious, Covid-positive hospital patients back to nursing homes. States like Florida that rejected the models and adopted policies to protect nursing-home residents had comparatively lower nursing-home mortality rates as a result.

The reliance on faulty models was matched by poor public messaging. Elites sent conflicting messages about the efficacy of cloth masks, the uniformity of risk across age brackets, the danger of outdoor transmission and the practical benefit of taking a Covid vaccine.

Perhaps most damaging to public trust was the public-health campaign urging “15 Days to Slow the Spread.” This short-term mitigation, we were told, was necessary to buy time to prepare hospitals for any patient surges. But that reasonable aim was soon transformed into a lockdown-until-eradication approach that left no end in sight for most Americans. Going from “save the hospitals” to “zero Covid” represents one of the greatest instances in history of moving the goal post.

Lockdowns proved a huge boon to America’s corporate media, which primed its captive audience with fear and partisanship. Everything the corporate press did regarding Covid coverage was inseparable from its yearslong obsession with attacking Donald Trump. Weaponizing Covid in an election year superseded any obligation to present the facts with needed context and perspective.

Florida cut against the grain of elite opinion and bucked the media narrative.
While it was abundantly clear by May that schools represented low-risk environments for the spread of Covid and that the consequences of prolonged school closures were potentially catastrophic, the corporate media did its best to obscure the data and stoke fear and panic among parents and teachers. After all, the media had to take the position opposite Donald Trump.


Had the media presented the data on schools in a rational fashion with proper context and perspective, it is quite possible that the extended school closures we’ve seen in lockdown states would have been untenable and millions of students would be in markedly better shape academically and socially.

For months we were told to “trust the experts,” but far too often over the past year those who were most influential in our society—in public health, government and media—proved incapable of rising to the moment.

Florida cut against the grain of elite opinion and bucked the media narrative. The result is open schools, comparatively low unemployment and per capita Covid mortality below the national average. We cannot simply undo the harm caused by flawed policies advocated by our elites, but we can resolve that we never let this happen to our country again.

—Mr. DeSantis is the governor of Florida.
Title: DeSantis against vaccine passports
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 30, 2021, 03:33:30 AM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/gov-desantis-to-take-executive-emergency-action-against-vaccine-passports_3753968.html?utm_source=morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-03-30&mktids=d985aaf6c3ccbedb451ac7adffb4b918
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 31, 2021, 07:04:39 AM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/desantis-points-the-way-to-a-new-federalism_3755208.html?utm_source=morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-03-31&mktids=fe49f386b7eb9e9cb345af51b7d738f6
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 05, 2021, 08:57:57 AM
DeSantis was quite impressive on Mark Levin this week.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: DougMacG on April 05, 2021, 09:50:51 AM
DeSantis was quite impressive on Mark Levin this week.

Good.  He might be our last best hope.
--------------------
From media thread, DeSantis on 60 Minutes
https://www.dailywire.com/news/cbs-deceptively-edits-reporters-interaction-with-fl-governor-ron-desantis-heres-what-he-really-said
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on April 05, 2021, 10:18:06 AM
he must be doing something right

the best indicator is the LEFT is full on attacking him all over the media cabal

notice the silence on CUOMO

remember the leader of NY State Dem controlled legislator stated if there is one more allegation
against Mario's boy they will move to impeach him

up to to 7 and counting I think -

of course we hear silence
"let the investigation "

continue
while Cuomo has his mob lawyers out in fall force behind the scenes playing every tactic they can get away with  - just next to the lines without touching

of course if they do touch - oops sorry
no malicious intent etc blah blah blah


Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: G M on April 05, 2021, 06:30:29 PM
For winning a national election? Really?


DeSantis was quite impressive on Mark Levin this week.

Good.  He might be our last best hope.
--------------------
From media thread, DeSantis on 60 Minutes
https://www.dailywire.com/news/cbs-deceptively-edits-reporters-interaction-with-fl-governor-ron-desantis-heres-what-he-really-said
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 06, 2021, 06:30:11 AM
I'm seeing him quite a bit on FOX.  Consistently excellent.  To my ear, he makes the right points in ways that will appeal to moderates; he has proven executive chops; proven ability to back the prog media up--  a lot to like hear.

Wonder what kind of cases he handled when he was a JAG?
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 08, 2021, 05:27:39 AM
One of the things we admired most about Trump was his balls in taking on the Pravdas.

Looks like DeSantis has the same balls and one fukk of a lot more finesse.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/7/ron-desantis-florida-governor-turns-tables-60-minu/?utm_source=Boomtrain&utm_medium=subscriber&utm_campaign=newsalert&utm_content=newsalert&utm_term=newsalert&bt_ee=MgW5wJhTSPHKhsZoCOvn8cbEu3Q%2FZIMQeGRkjjKUgHzuTxITtUMqCZrtzHbLwvDd&bt_user_id&bt_ts=1617858921948
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on April 08, 2021, 06:31:49 AM
I've noticed other Republicans now coming out with fighting words
 and actions

like McConnell ,  Governor Kemp etc , even never Trumpist National Reviewers seem to be waking up.

Finally they see the writing on the wall

There is no  compromise

it is a fight to the finish

only the DC sewer rats like Krystal STeele etc pretend Republicans
  etc.
 
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: DougMacG on April 08, 2021, 12:23:14 PM
Crafty wrote: 
"One of the things we admired most about Trump was his balls in taking on the Pravdas.
Looks like DeSantis has the same balls and one fukk of a lot more finesse."



Thumbs up on that.

For decades we pondered who will be the next Reagan?  Never found one.  No one asks who will be the next Trump, but the next leader must have two of his traits, ability to advance the agenda and be someone who can stand up to all these forces stacked against us.  60 Minutes is typical of the forces against us, perceived as professional mainstream, but horribly biased and ruthlessly malicious. 

No one can stand up to the journalistic standards of 60 Minutes...  Whooops, what happened to Super-anchorman Dan Rather and CBS News producer Mary Mapes?  Fired for getting caught. 

"60 Minutes is Toast"  - Powerline, Sept 9, 2004.
"Fake but Accurate."   - NY times, Sept 9, 2004
[More on the Media thread.]
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 03, 2021, 07:17:46 PM
https://www.wctv.tv/2021/05/03/gov-desantis-invalidates-all-local-covid-19-emergency-orders/
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 07, 2021, 09:01:06 AM
I'm liking him even more:

https://amgreatness.com/2021/05/07/florida-passes-law-banning-private-funding-of-election-procedures/
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis signs bill to protect against Big Tech censorship
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 25, 2021, 04:47:30 AM
https://amgreatness.com/2021/05/24/gov-desantis-signs-bill-to-protect-floridians-from-big-tech-censorship/
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis shows chops against pravda cheap shot
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 26, 2021, 12:34:13 PM
https://notthebee.com/article/watch-reporter-tries-to-dunk-on-desantis-he-wrecks-her-and-gets-a-standing-ovation
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis takes on the Chi Coms
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 08, 2021, 06:00:10 AM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/enough-is-enough-desantis-signs-bills-to-confront-nefarious-chinese-influence_3848384.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-06-08&mktids=29447cd0d129990641a23091bca96e03&est=YPqzi4bsklLi32LGXgusVKvMts%2Fzw2DwFVds9azI03sPZbG3vUjcHdnyXdr2TbUikeL1
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis: FL to send officers to TX and AZ
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 17, 2021, 07:11:51 AM
https://amgreatness.com/2021/06/17/florida-to-send-officers-to-texas-and-arizona-to-assist-with-border-crisis/

Title: President DeSantis
Post by: DougMacG on June 17, 2021, 07:33:42 AM
I just wanted to see how it sounds.

https://amgreatness.com/2021/06/17/florida-to-send-officers-to-texas-and-arizona-to-assist-with-border-crisis/
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis sends help to border states
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 19, 2021, 02:46:01 PM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/floridas-cavalry-helps-secure-the-border-youve-got-a-storm-and-were-coming-to-help-you_3864553.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-06-19&mktids=039af16e1b036edcdfda3bac9f3b78d2&est=GLPYnMx6SHbKyvsWdk7qKuLwApFAZ7ir31xMXMXIJXfMkUduedYeeFvwdHa4UG8T82YC
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on June 20, 2021, 06:22:05 AM
"President DeSantis"

"I just wanted to see how it sounds"

Well he could pull the Italian vote away from Cuomo.

 :-D

Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 20, 2021, 08:09:14 AM
Didn't Mayor DiBlasio take down the Columbus Circle statute of Columbus down?
Title: I think it is still there - for now
Post by: ccp on June 20, 2021, 08:57:43 AM
no mention of it under wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Monument_(New_York_City)

speaking of statues :

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/06/19/juneteenth-george-floyd-harriet-tubman-statues-unveiled-us-cities/7754673002/

 :roll:
Title: straw poll : DeSantis tops Trump
Post by: ccp on June 21, 2021, 04:58:35 AM
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ron-desantis-straw-poll-conservative-summit/2021/06/20/id/1025748/
Title: Re: straw poll : DeSantis tops Trump
Post by: DougMacG on June 21, 2021, 10:32:49 AM
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ron-desantis-straw-poll-conservative-summit/2021/06/20/id/1025748/

I hope that what he has going now is lasting.
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis signs bill requiring students to learn the evils of communism
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 23, 2021, 12:09:34 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/22/desantis-bill-students-learn-evil-communism/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&tpcc%3D=newsletter&pnespid=kvkw8v5RGgeNQ6URGayMs9Cl2l.aEgAMmwtGnsXZ
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 23, 2021, 09:29:54 PM
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jun/23/how-rockstar-gov-ron-desantis-positioned-himself-t/?utm_source=Boomtrain&utm_medium=subscriber&utm_campaign=evening&utm_term=evening&utm_content=evening&bt_ee=a%2F%2B%2F0g1yexi1o4CuqPggYnVxSWsWRB2a0evbbdAlj8pm5mdRZY0u4fRQStYUeG6N&bt_ts=1624479917795
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis signs bill requiring students to learn the evils of communism
Post by: G M on June 24, 2021, 11:04:05 AM
https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/22/desantis-bill-students-learn-evil-communism/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&tpcc%3D=newsletter&pnespid=kvkw8v5RGgeNQ6URGayMs9Cl2l.aEgAMmwtGnsXZ

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/394429.php

https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1407495156056694784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1407495156056694784%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Face.mu.nu%2Farchives%2F394429.php
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 28, 2021, 07:35:29 AM
“Ronald Dion DeSantis was born on September 14, 1978, in Jacksonville, Florida, the son of Karen (née Rogers) and Ronald DeSantis.[1] He is of Italian descent.[2] His family moved to Orlando, Florida, before relocating to Dunedin, Florida, when he was six years old.[3] In 1991, he was a member of the Little League team from Dunedin National that made it to the Little League World Series in Williamsport, Pennsylvania.[4][5]

After graduating from Dunedin High School in 1997, DeSantis attended Yale University. He was captain of Yale's varsity baseball team and joined the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity.[5][6] On the Yale baseball team, DeSantis was an outfielder; as a senior in 2001, he had the team's best batting average at .336.[7][8][9][10]

He graduated from Yale in 2001 with a B.A. magna cum laude in history.[11] He then spent a year as a history teacher at the Darlington School.[12] DeSantis then attended Harvard Law School, graduating in 2005 with a Juris Doctor cum laude.[13][14]

DeSantis received his Reserve Naval officer's commission and assignment to the Judge Advocate General's Corps (JAG) in 2004 at the U.S. Naval Reserve Center in Dallas, Texas, while still a student at Harvard Law School. He completed Naval Justice School in 2005. Later that year, he received orders to the JAG Trial Service Office Command South East at Naval Station Mayport, Florida, as a prosecutor. In 2006, he was promoted from lieutenant, junior grade to lieutenant. He worked for the commander of Joint Task Force-Guantanamo (JTF-GTMO), working directly with detainees at the Guantanamo Bay Joint Detention Facility.[15][16][17]

In 2007, DeSantis reported to the Naval Special Warfare Command Group in Coronado, California, where he was assigned to SEAL Team One and deployed to Iraq[18] with the troop surge as the Legal Advisor to the SEAL Commander, Special Operations Task Force-West in Fallujah.[15][16][17]
DeSantis returned to the U.S. in April 2008, at which time he was reassigned to the Naval Region Southeast Legal Service. The U.S. Department of Justice appointed him to serve as an Assistant U.S. Attorney[18] at the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Middle District of Florida. DeSantis was assigned as a trial defense counsel until his honorable discharge from active duty in February 2010. He concurrently accepted a reserve commission as a lieutenant in the Judge Advocate General's Corps of the US Navy Reserve.[19] He was awarded the Bronze Star Medal, the Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal, the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal and the Iraq Campaign Medal.[15][16][17” #DeSantis #leadership
Title: Well played
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 04, 2021, 09:01:29 AM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/florida-gov-desantis-to-miss-trump-rally-in-sarasota_3885729.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-07-04&mktids=0ecc5213d1bdf8f0029d75afd5d003e8&est=Hc6dWg9aUMqE7LuHx5WRUzj8rYCWn3y%2F%2FuegsAUitNtcc7%2FoLhJcbu6u7E6SJqMhDh7M
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 18, 2021, 08:30:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp3yQGAgJI8&t=20s
Title: Crist creeping up on DeSantis uggh!!!!
Post by: ccp on August 04, 2021, 07:43:55 AM
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/566218-florida-poll-desantis-falls-behind-crist-as-covid-19-cases-surge

amazing how creeps like crist / Beto / kasich etc and others will just not leave us alone

Title: Re: Crist creeping up on DeSantis uggh!!!!
Post by: DougMacG on August 04, 2021, 09:14:02 AM
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/566218-florida-poll-desantis-falls-behind-crist-as-covid-19-cases-surge

amazing how creeps like crist / Beto / kasich etc and others will just not leave us alone

And political polling, one year out, is so accurate.

Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis hits Magoo over the head with a 2x4
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 04, 2021, 02:41:38 PM
https://amgreatness.com/2021/08/04/desantis-scorches-biden-until-you-do-your-job-and-secure-the-border-i-dont-want-to-hear-a-blip-about-covid/
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis vs. Magoo
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 06, 2021, 05:15:21 PM
https://amgreatness.com/2021/08/06/desantis-hits-back-at-biden-what-else-has-he-forgotten/
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis calls for end of resettling illegals in Florida
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 30, 2021, 04:40:06 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-biden-administration-resettling-illegal-immigrants-florida?fbclid=IwAR2AqAV1S3heQQXLwpIv-9Ad_O-7K9suOUopiAJMhq-OEePJOz4S-ldNH6A
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis calls for end of resettling illegals in Florida
Post by: G M on August 31, 2021, 08:46:36 AM
Governors aren't allowed to protect their citizens, that's racist!

Besides, how are we going to create more Covid cases if he is allowed to do that?


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-biden-administration-resettling-illegal-immigrants-florida?fbclid=IwAR2AqAV1S3heQQXLwpIv-9Ad_O-7K9suOUopiAJMhq-OEePJOz4S-ldNH6A
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 25, 2021, 01:41:48 AM
https://townhall.com/columnists/humbertofontova/2021/09/25/desantis-awards-floridas-medal-of-freedom-to-che-guevara-captor-felix-rodriguez-n2596454

https://notthebee.com/article/ron-desantis-sticks-it-to-the-feds-gets-life-saving-covid-treatment-for-florida-after-biden-admin-restricted-supply?utm_source=jeeng
Modify message
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis on Australia lockdown
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 28, 2021, 02:46:00 PM
https://michaelyon.locals.com/upost/1117802/desantis-on-australian-police-state
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis FL agencies to enforce immigration laws
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 29, 2021, 12:30:56 PM
https://amgreatness.com/2021/09/29/ron-desantis-issues-order-for-state-agencies-to-enforce-immigration-laws-when-federal-authorities-wont/
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 20, 2021, 04:43:24 PM
https://michaelyon.locals.com/upost/1162413/florida-still-legitimate-state-government-desantis-showing-leadership-again
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 21, 2021, 08:03:22 PM
https://michaelyon.locals.com/upost/1200051/florida-stands-strong
Title: Quality trolling from Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 18, 2021, 12:51:41 PM
https://amgreatness.com/2021/11/18/desantis-trolls-biden-by-holding-signing-ceremony-for-anti-vaccine-mandate-bills-in-brandon-florida/
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis begins to spread his foreign policy wings
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 25, 2021, 01:50:33 PM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/floridas-desantis-warns-against-removing-communist-rebels-from-terrorist-list-a-serious-mistake_4124214.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-11-25-2&mktids=63e9c7bff2058f2ec39b1faaa91cce76&est=Ps4LV%2B%2BDBK71HYxvWt3h1ydg0Yf92SWR1aFdJNhzK5AqL5UkYHFQ2QpODv%2BbmGOgI2kH

Title: Let's see what Gov. Ron DeSantis does with this
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 03, 2021, 02:57:22 AM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/florida-prison-system-in-crisis-state-senator-says_4131481.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-12-03&mktids=84b38f09c23bc8ab1db62497fa4b93f8&est=x8MWsRaCRhrAaDwow0bTrcGK3HhN2PY1jA3i8JgxKJ2L4wP1dCP0QBIfy7Dm%2B7ie4MGR
Title: This is how Gov. Ron DeSantis becomes a president
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 11, 2021, 04:16:37 PM
https://michaelyon.locals.com/upost/1410406/desantis-this-is-how-a-governor-becomes-a-president
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 14, 2021, 05:33:16 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/12/10/desantis-issue-emergency-order-barring-state-licenses-florida-facilities-house-illegal-alien-children/?fbclid=IwAR1pGsb4VnXONsgcxzPvv1adIAovzRVnKR_GzM93U0Z1ZPbX__9g5tT5xBk
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis: Let's send illegals to Delaware and Martha's Vineyard
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 15, 2021, 02:12:04 AM
https://rumble.com/vqs10c-gov.-desantis-lets-send-illegals-to-delaware-and-marthas-vineyard.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab&fbclid=IwAR0UOaONlvIm4zt8pUVTS8K-lOG4v47urD2AY2RZ5YzzQSJNL72erxHV8kM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis: Let's send illegals to Delaware and Martha's Vineyard
Post by: DougMacG on December 15, 2021, 06:39:09 AM
Perfect.  And keep sending them until the rich liberals tell us how many is too many, and why.  Overrunning resources, they don't care.  MS13 gangs, they don't care.  In their front and back yard and on their streets and sidewalks and half of them voting Republican, now they care. They might demand the border be closed and put a work requirement on welfare.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 19, 2021, 04:05:57 PM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/desantis-took-on-washington-in-2021_4138361.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-12-19-4&utm_medium=email&est=mWMVcKhJZS9SXrSuJ99OCnTC9Y5vZok0JRrCvNmZ723JSds4SgEhK%2BQhJqSGHrfN1MoF
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis moves to pull FL pension funds out of China
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 22, 2021, 03:51:30 AM
DeSantis aims to pull all state pension funds out of China

Investors accused of ties

BY JAMES VARNEY THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and some of his administration’s top officials moved Monday to take control of the state’s huge pension portfolio from private asset managers that invest heavily in communist China.

At a meeting of the State Board of Administration, Florida Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Patronis and Attorney General Ashley Moody joined Mr. DeSantis, a Republican, in a motion to “revoke all proxy voting authority that has been given to outside fund managers.”

The state officials said they need to ensure that fund managers “act solely in the financial interest of the state’s funds.”

The measure also orders a survey of the Florida Retirement System’s investments “to determine how many assets the state has in Chinese companies.”

The state took action after Consumers’ Research, a conservative watchdog group, launched a campaign accusing BlackRock, the world’s largest investment company by assets under management, of close and growing ties with Beijing.

The bond between BlackRock CEO Larry Fink

and China’s communist leaders also has drawn criticism from left-wing billionaire George Soros.

In addition to investing clients’ money in Chinese companies, BlackRock was awarded a contract to sell mutual funds in China. The venture has raked in some $1 billion, according to published reports.

“I would like the SBA to survey the investments that are currently being done,” Mr. DeSantis said in a statement. “When the Legislature comes back, they can make statutory changes to say that the Communist Party of China is not a vehicle that we want to be entangled with. I think that that would be something that would be very, very prudent.”

Figures for BlackRock’s investments in China are difficult to pinpoint, but they represent a small portion of the more than $9.6 trillion in assets that the firm manages.

BlackRock’s China A Opportunities Fund, which has returned more than 32% since its 2018 inception, has more than $47.4 million, according to its most recent report.

“BlackRock has been using their proxy votes to hamper American companies, leading to higher burdens on Americans when we can least afford it,” Consumers’ Research Executive Director Will Hild said. “They have used American investment dollars to cozy up to the Chinese Communist Party in a betrayal of our nation that puts American pension dollars at risk.”

BlackRock declined a request for comment.

Although Mr. Fink is an ardent supporter of green initiatives and BlackRock has tried to force American companies to follow an environmental agenda, China is the world’s biggest producer of greenhouse gases.

China also has been accused of numerous human rights violations, including forcing Muslimminority Uyghurs into labor camps, stifling Hong Kong’s traditional democracy, and silencing and coercing tennis star Peng Shuai over rape charges against a high government official.

National security officials have raised concerns about investments in Chinese companies that operate with the permission of the communist leadership and, in some cases, work closely with the military.

Published reports show Black-Rock has invested in at least two Chinese companies, iFlytek and Hikvision, that have been added to the U.S. “entity list” as national security and foreign policy threats.

It is not illegal to invest in such companies, although they are forbidden from trading with U.S. corporations.

Florida’s announcement is the latest in a string of state initiatives to signal that companies should focus on business and profits for shareholders rather than a political agenda.

Last month, West Virginia Treasurer Riley Moore led a coalition of 15 states that threatened to pull funds if bankers tried to stifle oil and gas companies to appease environmentalists.

Mr. Moore called the warning a “pushback against woke capitalism.”

Some top Florida officials supported Mr. DeSantis’ concern Monday.

“As Americans got our cheap goods, the Chinese government wasn’t playing by the rules when it came to intellectual property or trade,” Mr. Patronis said.

“I take my fiduciary responsibilities seriously, and I think the SBA needs to start asking harder questions when it comes to whether investing any more in China is a good idea. It seems limiting our exposure to China is not only good for our country, but it is the financially prudent thing to do for our state,” he said.

The Securities and Exchange Commission and other federal agencies have cautioned that Chinese investments can be subject to the whims of communist leaders and are outside the influence of U.S. or other regulators.

In September, the SEC warned of risks associated with variable interest entities, which are listed on U.S. stock markets but are essentially shell companies with no control over the Chinese entities.
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis and Constitutional Carry
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 24, 2021, 06:27:01 PM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/12/24/florida-is-set-to-join-a-coveted-second-amendment-club-n2600987
Title: DeSantis leads in decoupling from China
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 29, 2021, 02:36:43 AM
https://www.westernjournal.com/desantis-makes-big-move-combat-woke-corporate-ideology-chinese-influence/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2021-12-28&utm_campaign=manualpost&fbclid=IwAR3TDrDLUrtth3HVYjYDqMBRp8fCzOqPD1VdgfENKUm2fh6ImfK1xfinxag
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis leads the way on illegals
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 01, 2022, 05:59:26 PM
12/15/21

https://www.immigrationreform.com/2021/12/15/fl-governor-leads-way-on-enforcement-immigrationreform-com/?fbclid=IwAR1E8UIDMLm5wMniScR3Jinm8fUNN_DTN-SDG7oj1hZoWtGl_MjcHgDz9B0
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 03, 2022, 07:12:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzzZ2PUitvg&t=127s
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis on Jan. 6
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 07, 2022, 07:44:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpaQOv6h4m0
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis proposes special police agency to monitor elections
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 18, 2022, 10:16:20 AM
Sounds great to me!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/18/florida-governor-proposes-special-police-agency-monitor-elections/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F35ca445%2F61e6f9229d2fda14d7f965dc%2F61cdf026ae7e8a4ac205b2b3%2F11%2F72%2F61e6f9229d2fda14d7f965dc

Florida governor proposes special police agency to monitor elections
No state has such a force, which Gov. Ron DeSantis wants empowered to arrest voters and others who allegedly violate election laws
DeSantis proposes special police agency to monitor elections
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) during his State of the State address on Jan. 11 said he would establish a special “election integrity unit” to monitor elections. (The Florida Channel)
By Lori Rozsa and Beth Reinhard
Today at 6:30 a.m. EST



WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — A plan by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis would establish a special police force to oversee state elections — the first of its kind in the nation — and while his fellow Republicans have reacted tepidly, voting rights advocates fear that it will become law and be used to intimidate voters.

The proposed Office of Election Crimes and Security would be part of the Department of State, which answers to the governor. DeSantis is asking the GOP-controlled legislature to allocate nearly $6 million to hire 52 people to “investigate, detect, apprehend, and arrest anyone for an alleged violation” of election laws. They would be stationed at unspecified “field offices throughout the state” and act on tips from “government officials or any other person.”

DeSantis highlighted his plan as legislators opened their annual 60-day session last week.



“To ensure that elections are conducted in accordance with the rule of law, I propose an election integrity unit whose sole focus will be the enforcement of Florida’s election laws,” he said during his State of the State address. “This will facilitate the faithful enforcement of election laws and will provide Floridians with the confidence that their vote will matter.”

Voting rights experts say that no state has such an agency, one dedicated to patrolling elections and empowered to arrest suspected violators. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) announced the formation of a “2021 Texas Election Integrity Unit” in October, but that office is more limited in scope, has fewer than 10 employees and isn’t under the governor’s authority.

“There’s a reason that there’s no office of this size with this kind of unlimited investigative authority in any other state in the country, and it’s because election crimes and voter fraud are just not a problem of that magnitude,” said Jonathan Diaz, a voting rights lawyer at the nonprofit Campaign Legal Center. “My number one concern is that this is going to be used as a tool to harass or intimidate civic-engagement organizations and voters.”


Florida’s congressional Democrats expressed similar worries when they asked the U.S. Justice Department to investigate “a disturbing rise in partisan efforts at voter suppression” in the state. They took aim specifically at DeSantis’s call for election police.

“Harmful proposals to create new partisan bodies to oversee our voting process are exactly the kind of action that demand oversight as we work to ensure that our voting process is unquestionably trustworthy,” they wrote Thursday in a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland.


Florida voters line up outside the Hialeah John F. Kennedy Library on Nov. 3, 2020 to cast their ballots in the general election. (Michael Robinson Chavez/The Washington Post)
Unlike many past elections, the 2020 general election in Florida had few problems. The governor touted it as “the gold standard.”

“The way Florida did it, I think, inspired confidence,” DeSantis said on Nov. 4, 2020, hours after the results showed that President Donald Trump had won the state by more than three percentage points. “I think that’s how elections should be run.”


But in the wake of Trump’s ultimate defeat, as he and his supporters spread falsehoods about election fraud nationwide and demanded audits in numerous states, many Republicans in Florida pressed DeSantis to do the same.

Though he resisted an audit, DeSantis signed a controversial bill last year curtailing some voting options that had helped to expand participation. The law — which is being challenged in court, with a trial set to begin Jan. 30 — limits the use of ballot drop boxes, adds requirements to request mail ballots, and bans groups or individuals from gathering absentee ballots on other voters’ behalf.

No legislators have signed on to sponsor DeSantis’s new proposal. House Speaker Chris Sprowls (R) said DeSantis is concerned that existing law enforcement agencies don’t have the expertise necessary to find and prosecute election crimes. Yet he hasn’t embraced the governor’s approach. “We’re going to look at it, we’ll evaluate it and see what happens,” Sprowls said last week.


As with all committees in the Capitol in Tallahassee, Republicans are in the majority on the House Public Integrity & Elections Committee. Neither the committee chairman nor vice chairman returned calls for comment. The panel has not scheduled a hearing on the DeSantis proposal.

Last month, Secretary of State Laurel Lee spoke to a meeting of the Florida Supervisors of Elections association to explain the governor’s plan. Some of the officials who run elections in each of Florida’s 67 counties were alarmed by what they heard. They fear overreach from the executive branch, especially in a year when DeSantis is running for reelection.

Broward County Supervisor of Elections Joe Scott said he’s concerned that the new unit would be “applied in a very partisan way” and certain that his heavily Democratic county would be a target.

“It seems as if this is going to focus on a lot of grass-roots organizations that are out there trying to get people registered to vote, as well as people out there doing petition drives,” Scott said. “I think this is going to lead to people being intimidated if they’re civically involved. I don’t want people to be scared away from doing those kinds of things.”


An election worker sorts vote-by-mail ballots at the Miami-Dade County Board of Elections in Doral, Fla., ahead of the 2020 general election. Months later, the legislature passed measures making it harder for residents to vote by mail. (Lynne Sladky/AP)
State Rep. Geraldine Thompson, the ranking Democrat on the House Public Integrity & Elections Committee, thinks the new agency would be a waste of money. In addition to its funding, DeSantis wants $1.1 million for eight new positions in other departments — to address what he describes as a growing caseload of election crimes. The Department of State received 262 election-fraud complaint forms in 2020 and referred 75 to law enforcement or prosecutors. About 11 million Floridians cast ballots for president that November.


“The governor and other officials in Florida said the 2020 election was the most secure and efficiently run election that we ever had,” Thompson said. “So I see absolutely no reason for this elections commission to be established, particularly at the cost that he is proposing.”

Voter fraud is rare, and critics note that state attorneys and local police are already in place to investigate alleged election crimes. The state’s 67 elections supervisors are also trained to look for fraud.

“The bottom line is there is no widespread election fraud in Florida,” said Hillsborough State Attorney Andrew Warren, a Democrat. “It’s a microscopic amount. Elections today are the most secure that they have ever been. This is not a serious policy proposal. This is a door prize for a QAnon pep rally.”

Hans von Spakovsky, an election law expert at the conservative Heritage Foundation, supports Desantis’s plan and hopes it becomes a “model” for other states. Investigating election fraud requires special training and commitment that are lacking in many law enforcement agencies, he said. The foundation’s database of election fraud cases nationwide shows only three convictions in Florida in the last three years.


Support for the governor’s proposal should be bipartisan, according to DeSantis press secretary Christina Pushaw.

“Ensuring that every legal vote counts, as Governor DeSantis strives to do, is the opposite of ‘voter suppression,’ ” Pushaw said via email. “We do not understand why any politician, Democrat or Republican, would be opposed to allocating sufficient resources to ensure our election laws are enforced.”

Cecile Scoon, a lawyer who is president of the League of Women Voters Florida, called an elections security force controlled by a governor an alarming concept.

“So to have your own elections SWAT team, that would be under the direction of the secretary of state, who is under the direction of the governor, is not a comfortable feeling,” Scoon said. “Having governmental officials like this, traveling about overlooking elections just to see if there’s something going on, is very chilling, very scary and very reminiscent of past governmental interference that was directed to Black voters.”
Title: Roger Stone Trump surrogate
Post by: ccp on January 18, 2022, 11:15:12 AM
http://republicbrief.com/roger-stone-attacks-desantis-hes-not-honest-and-not-going-to-be-president/

"DeSantis is not honest" [unlike Donald Trump -  :roll:]
Title: Re: Roger Stone Trump surrogate
Post by: G M on January 18, 2022, 11:19:31 AM
http://republicbrief.com/roger-stone-attacks-desantis-hes-not-honest-and-not-going-to-be-president/

"DeSantis is not honest" [unlike Donald Trump -  :roll:]

After all this, don't be surprised if DeSantis ends up on the ticket.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on January 18, 2022, 11:39:32 AM
"After all this, don't be surprised if DeSantis ends up on the ticket"

the only way I would be happy with that is if DeSantis is Prez and Trump VP

(I know not possible)
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 26, 2022, 03:59:12 AM
https://rumble.com/vt9j7m-desantis-mocks-joe-biden-in-hilarious-exchange-with-reporter.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab&fbclid=IwAR0pRn5jIL5CrqU9_rmlumbsp7oSNEMYVWdzkNBkrpx34PcWsF3JDMiIRF4
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis vs. Disney
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 12, 2022, 02:12:00 AM
https://www.westernjournal.com/desantis-makes-woke-disney-pay-ceo-speaks-controversial-parental-rights-bill/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2022-03-11&utm_campaign=manualpost&fbclid=IwAR2D32nVsOUWlSv9chK5EcoqHo0Re2H7gexSqYdXr95ysot-PxIYg53qHY8
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 23, 2022, 02:11:11 AM
https://whnt.com/news/gov-desantis-declares-sarasota-swimmer-champ-over-transgender-athlete/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=socialflow&fbclid=IwAR1Hm19y_YW-iO5YkVVaMpZJWKXmhA1XzSNXWiU4pEMp68MfR9WT1-mZQG4
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis calls out Disney
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 30, 2022, 05:32:07 AM
https://dailycaller.com/2022/03/29/lining-pockets-gov-desantis-calls-out-disney-sexualizing-kindergarteners/?utm_medium=email&pnespid=rqs5UC0bNL1B3.DPqDirDcuQ4hLzWZZsKrLlwOBq9kZmJERkfj2wfgHO1eLzRJLUuFZQxZFM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis bitch slaps House of Mouse
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 31, 2022, 09:13:22 AM
DeSantis puts Disney in bad light in ‘don’t say gay’ fight

Hits back with China ties, California culture

BY VALERIE RICHARDSON THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The Walt Disney Co. may have placated the left by vowing to fight Gov. Ron DeSantis’ newly signed parental bill of rights, but it turns out the Florida Republican knows how to return a punch.

Disney found itself with a public relations debacle on its hands Wednesday as Mr. DeSantis took a sledgehammer to the House of Mouse, using the spotlight to skewer its record on China and framing the skirmish as a battle between Florida and California values. “For them to say that [they], as a Californiabased company, are going to work to take those California values and overturn a law that was duly enacted and, as you said, supported by a strong majority of Floridians, they don’t run this state,” the governor said during an appearance Tuesday on Fox’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”

“They will never run this state as long as I’m governor,” he added.

Providing a timely assist was Manhattan Institute senior fellow Christopher Rufo, who released video clips from a virtual meeting of Disney executives touting the company’s decision to eliminate “gendered greetings” and advance LGBTQ narratives in its entertainment programming.

Those in the video included Vivian Ware, Disney diversity and inclusion manager, who said the company last year eliminated its “ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls” voiceover ahead of its Magic Kingdom fireworks show and replaced it with “dreamers of all ages.”

“We don’t want to just assume that because someone might be, in our interpretation, may be presenting as female that they may not want to be called princess,” Ms. Ware said. “So let’s think differently about how do we really engage with our guests in a meaningful and inclusive way that makes it magical and memorable for everyone.”

Conservatives quickly pointed out the irony of Disney squelching terms such as “boys and girls” while tarring the Florida legislation as the “don’t say gay” bill.

“It’s amazing that Disney executives were falsely accusing Ron DeSantis of ‘Don’t Say Gay’ while they were requiring theme park employees to eliminate the words ‘ladies,’ ‘gentlemen,’ ‘boys,’ and ‘girls,’” Mr. Rufo tweeted.

Disney had no comment Wednesday on the DeSantis criticism or the video clips, which helped

fuel Wednesday’s conservative backlash over the company’s opposition to House Bill 1557.

“I think this is an American realization that Disney is not the Disney of our childhood,” former Rep. Sean Duffy, Wisconsin Republican, said on Fox’s “The Faulkner Focus.” “They’ve gone very progressive, very woke, and the fact that they want to sexualize our children and our children’s childhoods for their own political agenda is incredibly disturbing.”

Democratic strategist Brad Woodhouse blamed the uproar on the Republican “outrage machine.” He said it was calculated to stoke the base in an election year.

Mr. DeSantis is leading in the polls on his November reelection bid. The first-term governor is also seen as a top prospect for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.

“First of all, the outrage here is not about Disney, and this whole issue is not about Disney,” Mr. Woodhouse said. “God bless the outrage machine. Nobody does it better. This is about Ron DeSantis and a Republican legislature that is dividing people and demeaning people simply for the purpose of dividing and demeaning people. It’s a political strategy.”

The bill bans classroom instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity in grades K-3 and “instruction that is not age appropriate for students,” the governor’s office said.

The measure also requires “school districts to adopt procedures for notifying parents if there is a change in services from the school regarding a child’s mental, emotional or physical health or well-being,” including changes adopted at school to the child’s name or gender identity.

“This [bill] is so uncontroversial, polling has shown even a majority of Florida Democrat voters support it,” said Terry Schilling, president of the American Principles Project. “However, woke leftists at Disney and elsewhere are so invested in their project to initiate young children into their sexual ideology that they cannot help but oppose this legislation.”

Whether the brouhaha ultimately will benefit Mr. DeSantis or Disney is subject to debate.

Mr. Schilling said that “DeSantis and Florida Republicans were incredibly smart to pick this battle, and as we are soon likely to see, it will not end well for Disney’s woke leaders and their Democrat proxies.”

The anti-Trump Lincoln Project disagreed. It tweeted that “Ron DeSantis is not only attacking LGBTQ+ communities and their families, he also thinks it’s a good idea to attack Florida’s biggest tourist attraction and the hard-working Floridians that work there.”

Shortly after Mr. DeSantis signed the bill Monday, Disney released a statement saying the legislation “should never have been passed and should never have been signed into law.”

“Our goal as a company is for this law to be repealed by the legislature or struck down in the courts, and we remain committed to supporting the national and state organizations working to achieve that,” Disney said. “We are dedicated to standing up for the rights and safety of LGBTQ+ members of the Disney family, as well as the LGBTQ+ community in Florida and across the country.”

Mr. DeSantis accused Disney of showing no interest in the bill while it moved through the Legislature, but reacting only under pressure from “the woke mob.”

Disney CEO Bob Chapek this month sent a memo to employees apologizing for not speaking out against the bill and promising to donate to LGBTQ groups, including the Human Rights Campaign. He also said he would “pause” political donations in Florida.

“Speaking to you, reading your messages, and meeting with you have helped me better understand how painful our silence was,” Mr. Chapek said in the memo reprinted March 11 in The Hollywood Reporter. “It is clear that this is not just an issue about a bill in Florida, but instead yet another challenge to basic human rights. You needed me to be a stronger ally in the fight for equal rights and I let you down. I am sorry.”

That wasn’t enough for some Disney employees, who staged a March 22 walkout against the bill in Burbank, California, and demanded in an open letter that the company cease donations to the bill’s legislative supporters.

“The recent statements by The Walt Disney Company (TWDC) leadership regarding the Florida legislature’s recent ‘Don’t Say Gay’ bill have utterly failed to match the magnitude of the threat to LGBTQIA+ safety represented by this legislation,” the letter said.

Mr. DeSantis has pointed out that the word “gay” does not appear in the bill.

“So they say it’s banning a word that literally isn’t even in the legislation,” he said. “It’s not even like they’re misrepresenting the way the word is used. It’s not even used in the bill. It’s a fake narrative. It’s a lie.”

Those weighing in on the fracas include prominent gay conservatives such as former Trump administration official Ric Grenell, columnist Tammy Bruce and Fox News pundit and radio host Guy Benson.

Mr. Grenell tweeted that Disney “never helped in any way” on the Trump administration’s campaign to decriminalize homosexuality in countries where the practice is still illegal. Ms. Bruce blasted “the narcissism of projecting our adult issues onto kids.”

Mr. Benson tweeted: “1) Is Disney opposed to the part that bars sexual/gender identity instruction for K-3 students? Or another part of the bill? 2) Has Disney put out a statement this forceful on the genocide in China, where they eagerly do business? Trying to pinpoint their ‘corporate values.’” Mr. DeSantis also rebooted the criticism over Disney’s 2020 live-action movie “Mulan,” parts of which were filmed in Xinjiang, where more than 1 million members of the mostly Muslim Uyghur minority are thought to have been held in internment camps.

“People asked me kind of about their posture on the bill, and I said, you know what? If we would have put in the bill that you were not allowed to have curriculum that discussed the oppression of the Uyghurs in China, Disney would have endorsed that in a second,” Mr. DeSantis said at a Tuesday press conference.

Disney Chief Financial Officer Christine McCarthy said in September 2020 that the film was shot mostly in New Zealand and that it was common practice in the film industry to credit the nations where the movie was shot, according to Deadline.

As far as Mr. DeSantis is concerned, however, Disney should be more concerned with its own human rights record.

“They’re fine lining their pockets from the [Chinese Communist Party] and all the atrocities that go on there,” he said. “But it’s those kindergartners in Florida that they really want to have transgenderism as part of their core curriculum in school.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis bitch slaps House of Mouse
Post by: DougMacG on March 31, 2022, 11:53:21 AM
Strange situation all the way around, a company like Disney being so anti-children, and a Governor fighting with such a (should be) important constituent company.

State of Minnesota used to fight with 3M (MN Mining & Manufacturing Co.) over taxes and laws.  The State said screw you and 3M kept hiring and expanding... outside of MN. Disney world is not as mobile and DeSantis has plenty of new employers coming in, faster than they can find room.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis yard sign
Post by: DougMacG on April 29, 2022, 12:52:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS72sya2AiQ

15 seconds.  Best ad ever.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 29, 2022, 03:34:15 PM
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/29/florida-restores-9-woke-math-k-12-textbooks-after-/?utm_source=Boomtrain&utm_medium=subscriber&utm_campaign=newsalert&utm_content=newsalert&utm_term=newsalert&bt_ee=nzwizDqBKIB%2B%2FnK6FfnKpDfGijuNbOXE0nPdgJYIwNAMp250UZo8iNZKmhj7AsdP&bt_ts=1651266792065
Title: Another fine move from Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 10, 2022, 09:19:38 AM
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/desantis-signs-bill-requiring-education-on-communist-regimes-in-public-schools/?fbclid=IwAR3o_nEo69HtXVpmYC4EMkZT3nix2JAS2gPtIV-q7S3cFmqi5FEa9CtQVXg
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 12, 2022, 05:18:04 AM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/federal-judge-dismisses-reedy-creek-lawsuit-against-desantis_4458790.html?utm_source=Morningbrief-ai&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2022-05-12-ai&est=3%2BOkPRd%2FqNBe2DwWU0Yz2xpJkXenRodxIMsMzbXxXtFvkfAyKiANH8zXua4nAyJCmLHl
Title: NR gets a nice DeSantis article in Pravda on the Hudson
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 12, 2022, 07:47:07 PM
Republicans Need a New Leader. They’re Looking to Florida.
May 12, 2022, 4:55 p.m. ET

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By Rich Lowry

Mr. Lowry is the editor of National Review.

Two weeks ago, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida appeared with the Fox News host Laura Ingraham for a town hall that lasted the full hour of her prime-time show. That kind of airtime tends to be reserved only for Donald Trump, but Mr. DeSantis has had a meteoric rise. He’s far and away the most popular potential 2024 presidential candidate among Republicans after Mr. Trump.

Even if you would never consider voting for him, it’s important to understand the sources of his appeal and the direction of his politics, because one way or the other — whether he ever runs for president or not — Ron DeSantis is the new Republican Party.

Governor DeSantis’s combativeness on hot-button social issues reflects Mr. Trump’s influence, but he’s gone even further and used government power as an instrument in the culture war — something Mr. Trump talked about but never really did. If any of Mr. DeSantis’s Republican admirers are hoping he will chart a path back to the pre-2016 party, they’ll probably be disappointed. Instead, the governor is a leader in a new, Trump-inflected party, but without the character flaws and baggage of the former president.

Mr. DeSantis became a Republican hero for his response to Covid-19. When many states were instituting far-reaching lockdowns and mask requirements, he took a different path. Under his leadership, Florida did what it reasonably could to protect its nursing homes, while minimizing lockdowns and other restrictions because of their economic and social downsides. When I talked to the governor in May 2020 for an article about his Covid strategy, I found him — contrary to the crude image of him as a reckless ignoramus — well versed on the research and thoughtful about the lessons from other countries. The broad parameters of his strategy — recognize there’s a balance between mitigation and its social and economic costs; keep the schools open; don’t force students to wear masks — have now become widely accepted.

Thanks to his Covid response, Mr. DeSantis attained a status that is invaluable in Republican politics — that of a lightning rod. His legend grew with every attack on him, especially the ones that were inaccurate or unfair. In April 2021, the CBS program “60 Minutes” ran a flagrantly flawed and misleading report alleging corruption in the distribution of Florida’s vaccines. The news media was also much too quick to amplify claims by a former state health department employee that Florida was hiding a huge number of Covid deaths. Clips of Mr. DeSantis in confrontations with reporters spread on social media, and he repeated his mantra of defending “freedom over Faucism.”

In general, there is no controversy that Mr. DeSantis doesn’t address. In two weeks in April alone, Mr. DeSantis signed a 15-week abortion ban, revoked the special tax status of Disney for its opposition to his “Don’t Say Gay” bill, threatened legal action against Twitter if it didn’t agree to sell to Elon Musk (Florida’s retirement pension fund is an investor) and signed a bill creating a task force to investigate election fraud. Meanwhile, his department of health issued guidance pushing back against the Biden administration’s recommendations for treating youth with gender dysphoria.

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For all the talk of how Trumpy Mr. DeSantis is, though, there is much about him that recalls the party’s pre-Trump era. He was elected to Congress as a Tea Party conservative in 2012, and he is fond of boasting that Florida’s budget is roughly half the size of New York’s even though his state is more populous. He’s proud and protective of Florida’s status as a low-tax state.

He’s been a highly committed advocate of expanding charter schools and scholarship programs to help families send their children to private schools. He’s firmly anti-regulation. We haven’t heard from him in a significant way on trade or foreign policy — two of the key issues on which Trump populists have diverged from past Republican orthodoxy. He hasn’t endorsed industrial policy, a priority of a segment of the populist right.

Indeed, any movement conservative sealed in a time capsule circa 1984 and emerging today would recognize Mr. DeSantis as a more or less standard Sunbelt Republican — a fiscal conservative wooing people and businesses to his state based on a favorable economic climate who is also anti-elitist, socially conservative and eager to reform public schools.

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None of this is new. What stands out as a true departure is Mr. DeSantis’s willingness to use government power in the culture war.

Sometimes this has involved areas, like public education, where the government has every right to set the rules. One such example is the “Don’t Say Gay” bill, more properly known as the Parental Rights in Education bill, which prohibits classroom instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity in kindergarten through third grade. Another is the “Individual Freedom” bill, which, among other things, prohibits promotion of the concept that a person “must feel guilt, anguish or other forms of psychological distress because of actions, in which the individual played no part, committed in the past by other members of the same race, color, sex or national origin.”

Other times, Florida has pursued a laudable goal in a dubious manner. Its “Big Tech” bill seeks to keep social media companies from removing political candidates and other users from their platforms, but it has serious First Amendment conflicts and has been enjoined by a federal judge.

Then there’s the fight with Disney. The revocation of its special tax status is a frankly retaliatory act that also presents free-speech issues and could prove a legal and policy morass. That said, Disney got a truly extraordinary deal from the state that allowed it, in effect, to run its own city. The company never would have been granted this arrangement 55 years ago if its executives had told the state’s leaders, “And, by the way, eventually, the Walt Disney Company will adopt cutting edge left-wing causes as its own.”

The broader point of making an example of Disney is to send a message to other corporations that there could be downsides to letting themselves be pushed by progressive employees into making their institutions weapons in the culture wars, and conclude it’s best to stick to flying planes, selling soda, and so on.

How can a limited-government Tea Party Republican like Mr. DeSantis have become comfortable with this use of government? For that matter, how is it that so many Tea Party types moved so easily toward Trumpist populism?

The key, I think, is that for many people on the right, a libertarian-oriented politics was largely a way to register opposition to the mandarins who have an outsized influence on our public life. And it turns out that populism is an even more pungent way to register this opposition. Progressive domination of elite culture has now grown to include formerly neutral institutions like corporations and sports leagues. More conservatives are beginning to believe that the only countervailing institutional force is democratic political power as reflected in governor’s mansions, state legislatures and — likely beginning next year — Congress.

“The central conservative truth is that it is culture, not politics, that determines the success of a society,” Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York once wrote. “The central liberal truth is that politics can change a culture and save it from itself.”

Given the state of play, conservatives have been learning to appreciate Moynihan’s liberal truth. If Florida’s culture-war initiatives succeed, the education establishment in the state will not mindlessly absorb the latest left-wing fad. Corporations will be warier of wading into hot-button social fights. In other words, the culture of these institutions will have changed for the better.

Even if Mr. DeSantis is willing to avail himself of this use of government power, it doesn’t mean that he’s abandoning his limited-government orientation. The libertarian Cato Institute ranks Florida the second-most free state in the country (after New Hampshire), and Mr. DeSantis has shown no inclination to change the tax, spending and regulatory policies that contribute to that status. On Covid, he has consistently emphasized the importance of individual autonomy.

Mr. DeSantis’s detractors are fond of saying that he’s worse than or more dangerous than Mr. Trump. If, by this, they mean that a President DeSantis would be more focused and disciplined in pursuing a conservative agenda than Mr. Trump was, they’re probably right. Otherwise, it is completely wrongheaded. Mr. DeSantis doesn’t have Mr. Trump’s failings. He’s sharp in his rejoinders to reporters, but never gratuitously insulting. He cares about facts and takes time to master them.

Mr. DeSantis is the hottest thing in national Republican politics right now and he is doing everything to lay the groundwork, assuming he wins re-election this year, to run for president. It’s impossible to know how that will go — he could get blocked by Mr. Trump or not live up to the hype. What’s clear is that his synthesis of the old and new, and the resonance it has had with the rank-and-file, points to the Republican future.

Rich Lowry is the editor of National Review.
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis signs bill banning picket at homes
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 17, 2022, 02:25:50 PM
DeSantis Bans ‘Picketing and Protesting’ Outside Homes in Florida
By Katabella Roberts May 17, 2022 Updated: May 17, 2022biggersmaller Print
Individuals who protest outside private residences in the state of Florida will now face a fine or prison time under a new bill signed on Monday by Gov. Ron DeSantis.

The Republican governor signed the bill, known as HB 1571, shortly after protests erupted outside the homes of Supreme Court justices in the wake of the leaked majority draft opinion indicating that the Roe v. Wade decision would be struck down.

“Sending unruly mobs to private residences, like we have seen with the angry crowds in front of the homes of Supreme Court justices, is inappropriate,” said DeSantis in a statement. “This bill will provide protection to those living in residential communities and I am glad to sign it into law.”

Specifically, the newly-signed bill will allow law enforcement officials to issue a warning to any individual found “picketing or protesting outside of a dwelling” with “specified intent.”

Individuals who do not disperse from the residence after the warning has been issued may be arrested. The bill also makes residential picketing punishable as a second-degree misdemeanor.

Second-degree misdemeanors are punishable by up to 60 days in jail and/or six months probation and a $500 fine.

The law will take effect Oct. 1.

Florida’s new law comes just a week after the Senate last week unanimously passed a bill, known as the “Supreme Court Police Parity Act,” that would allow the Supreme Court to provide 24-hour security protection to the families of Supreme Court justices.

Lawmakers voted on the move after the 67-page opinion of the Supreme Court was published on May 2 by Politico suggesting that the justices would overturn the decision that legalized abortion across the entire United States.

The leak prompted protests to break out across the country, including at the homes of Chief Justice John Roberts, and Justices Brett Kavanaugh, Samuel Alito, and Amy Coney Barrett.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), one of the lawmakers who introduced the bill last week alongside Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), said last week that the bill was necessary because both the justices and their family members had experienced threats to their physical safety following the leaked opinion.

“Threats to the physical safety of Supreme Court justices and their families are disgraceful, and attempts to intimidate and influence the independence of our judiciary cannot be tolerated,”  said Cornyn in a statement. “I’m glad the Senate quickly approved this measure to extend Supreme Court police protection to family members, and the House must take up and pass it immediately.”

The Supreme Court Police Parity Act would amend title 40 of the United States Code to grant the Supreme Court security-related authorities “equivalent to the legislative and executive branches for the immediate families of the nine justices and any other officers of the court” if the marshal determines such protection is necessary.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said last week that the Biden administration “strongly believes in the constitutional right to protest” but called on protesters to remain peaceful, noting that such demonstrations should never include violence or threats.

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This one was teed up for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

Back in March, long before the conservative furor over protests at Supreme Court justices’ homes, Florida’s legislature passed a ban on protesting at residential homes with the “intent to harass or disturb.”

DeSantis (R) signed the bill Monday, drawing support from conservative critics of the Supreme Court protests and derision from some on the left who argued the move violated First Amendment rights.

And you could forgive the latter group for jumping on that narrative, since another bill DeSantis signed last year cracking down on protests that turn violent — after a summer of racial justice demonstrations — was halted by a judge who indeed said it violated the First Amendment. DeSantis also pushed to remove Disney’s special tax status after it opposed him on a bill limiting discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools. Those actions by DeSantis clearly raise important and valid questions about his stance toward free speech and the politicization thereof.

But in this newest instance at least, DeSantis appears to be on the side of most Democrats in Florida’s state Senate — and of established law.

The bill passed the state Senate in March by a resounding 28-to-3 margin, earning the votes of 10 Democrats. (The earlier vote in the state House was more partisan.)

Florida is hardly alone. While most states don’t have such a law, some blue-leaning states do — including Arizona, Colorado, Illinois and Minnesota, according to legal analyst Eugene Volokh. And many municipalities have similar laws. That includes Montgomery County, Md., whose law was at issue when protesters showed up at a justice’s home this month. That law bars stationary protests at a home but allows one to march in residential areas.

Much like that law, Florida’s appears carefully tailored to meet established requirements. The text of the law itself cites perhaps the most significant precedent, 1988′s Frisby v. Schultz, while applying a similar standard and even narrowing its scope.


The text of Florida’s law states:

“It is unlawful for a person to picket or protest before or about the dwelling of any person with the intent to harass or disturb that person in his or her dwelling.”
The first part aligns with the standard set in Frisby. In that case, the Supreme Court ruled that it is constitutional to ban protests at residences as long as the ban is content-neutral — i.e. it applies to all types of protests and not specific causes. The court also stated that a ban must allow people to still demonstrate in those neighborhoods, including by marching on residential streets in ways that don’t target a specific home.

Florida’s ban is actually somewhat narrower than the one in that case. The local law in Brookfield, Wis., forbade “any person to engage in picketing before or about the residence or dwelling of any individual.” Florida’s law contains the same “before or about” language — deliberately — but it also requires that such protests be intended “to harass or disturb” to be illegal. The law is also more reserved in that it requires a law enforcement officer to warn protesters to peaceably disperse before making any arrests.


Just because a law is constitutional and exists elsewhere, of course, doesn’t mean that it can’t be objected to; indeed, complying with the Constitution is a pretty low bar.

But in addition to echoing existing laws, this particular law doesn’t go nearly as far as the “anti-riot” law DeSantis made his focal point early last year. The law he signed made “willfully participating in a violent public disturbance” a crime. (It also granted civil immunity to drivers who hit protesters with their vehicles, if they said the protests made them fear for their well-being at the time.) Civil rights and free-speech groups objected, saying that it would chill participation in protests because protesters could be held liable for violence they didn’t perpetrate. A judge ruled that the law’s vagueness “consumes vast swaths of core First Amendment speech.”

DeSantis’s move to strip Disney of its special tax status rubbed even some conservatives the wrong way. Despite DeSantis’s assurance that he wasn’t retaliating against Disney for speech he didn’t like, the timing very much pointed in that direction.


If there’s a narrative building here, it’s that DeSantis isn’t exactly erring on the side of free speech — and is even targeting speech by people he doesn’t like, in rather novel ways. DeSantis is very much in line with Republicans embracing the usefulness of big government in cracking down on Big Tech, critical race theory and businesses that enact their own coronavirus restrictions.

It’s just that the law he signed Monday on residential protests is far from the best evidence of that. But in his long-running and successful quest to build his political career on owning the libs, it’s certainly useful.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 23, 2022, 05:11:19 PM
https://rumble.com/v15bml5-it-shows-you-have-no-idea-what-youre-talking-about-desantis-fires-back-at-c.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab&fbclid=IwAR1xLR7fC7_aaVgOoHdEHqGAUsPao9eOaf3YXM-W4yAmqQadaKk3rOYfXEg
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis: FL may restrict medicaid coverage for trans drugs/surgery
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 05, 2022, 02:16:29 AM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/florida-to-potentially-restrict-medicaid-coverage-for-transgender-drugs-surgery-for-youth_4511839.html?utm_source=Morningbrief-ai&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2022-06-05-ai&est=UtmVnBcgLvXLRPyQkvFiYN3ScL35EcouGeHodlQD25dBWzfHKI2WVYEyUQUmgDqaGlGr
Title: WSJ: Desantis vs. TB Rays
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 06, 2022, 08:44:55 PM
DeSantis Harpoons the Tampa Bay Rays
Vetoing sports subsidies is good policy, but emulating woke cancelers is a mistake.
By The Editorial BoardFollow
June 6, 2022 6:56 pm ET


Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has picked another fight with progressive corporate America, this time the Tampa Bay Rays baseball team. When he signed the state budget last week, Mr. DeSantis zeroed out $35 million to help build a new site for the Rays’ spring training. “I don’t support giving taxpayer dollars to professional sports stadiums, period,” he said Friday.


This is a good policy that too few states emulate, and Florida taxpayers can be grateful that their Governor has a line-item veto and is willing to use it. He vetoed $3 billion in earmarks and pet legislative projects. But Mr. DeSantis also muddied his message by citing another reason to defund the Rays. “It’s also inappropriate to subsidize political activism of a private corporation,” he said.

After recent mass shootings in Buffalo, N.Y., and Uvalde, Texas, the Rays pledged to donate $50,000 to Everytown for Gun Safety, a group that wants to ban “assault weapons” and prohibit open carry. The team’s Twitter account, “in lieu of game coverage,” offered “facts about the impacts of gun violence.”

Why sports teams want to risk alienating half of their fans by taking sides in political debates is a mystery. People turn on ESPN as a break from politics, and the shrinking of apolitical spaces makes social comity harder.


As a matter of political realism, corporations that directly punch state leaders can hardly be surprised if they get socked in return. After Florida passed its mislabeled “Don’t Say Gay” law, Disney’s CEO called it a “challenge to basic human rights.” The Legislature reacted by passing a bill to phase out Disney World’s special tax district.

Richard Edelman, CEO of the giant public relations firm, recently warned executives at Davos that “we better be careful here because there’s starting to be a pushback against wokeness.” He’s right, and Mr. Edelman also offered the good advice that CEOs can take political stands in their personal capacity and donations to politicians, but that their public positions are best focused on policy issues that affect business.

But Mr. DeSantis is also in danger of abusing his power if he uses it to punish business for political speech he doesn’t like. Not wanting to subsidize professional sports is a compelling reason to veto the spending provision. Framing the veto as an act of censure is no better than the woke left demanding that corporate executives conform to their agenda. Politicians who behave like bullies invariably get a comeuppance when they overreach.

If Rays fans are put off by political lecturing from a ball club, they know how to quit buying tickets. And if Florida gets a reputation for petty retaliation against business, companies know how to go elsewhere
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 23, 2022, 11:15:52 PM
TTT
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: DougMacG on June 24, 2022, 04:52:28 AM
TTT

I saw that DeSantis leads Trump in a NH first primary poll (but not nationwide, yet).
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis needs to be very careful
Post by: G M on June 24, 2022, 08:18:17 AM
From Matt Bracken:


PREDICTABLE MILESTONES ON AMERICA'S FINAL TRANSFORMATION INTO A BANANA REPUBLIC:

1. Trump will be indicted and/or arrested, the purpose being to render him unable to run for office again.

2. DeSantis may die in an "accident" that is highly suspicious. A plane crash is a typical method.

Our enemies are not playing bean bag. They are so worried about losing power that they are playing nuclear chicken with Russia over Kaliningrad. They would prefer nuclear war to losing power, being exposed, and potentially being imprisoned for their crimes, such as pushing the covid vaxx poison for mega profits, currently pushing the poison even down to babies.

"Taking out" potential leading rivals is a proven tactic for staying in power when the electorate is turning away from a political clique. With the corrupted DOJ firmly in their pockets, they will have nothing to fear from sham investigations.

Some history to review for perspective:

RWANDA: On the evening of 6 April 1994, the aircraft carrying Rwandan president Juvénal Habyarimana and Burundian president Cyprien Ntaryamira, both Hutu, was shot down with surface-to-air missiles as their jet prepared to land in Kigali, Rwanda. The assassination set the Rwandan genocide in motion, one of the bloodiest events of the late 20th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Juv%C3%A9nal_Habyarimana_and_Cyprien_Ntaryamira

LEBANON: On 14 September 1982, President Bachir Gemayel was addressing fellow Phalangists at their headquarters in Achrafieh for the last time as their leader and for the last time as commander of the Lebanese Forces. At 4:10 PM, a bomb was detonated, killing Gemayel and 26 other Phalange politicians. His assassination lead to the Sabra and Shatila Massacre. Between 762 and 3,500 civilians, mostly Palestinians and Lebanese Shiites were massacred by members of the Phalange in retaliation for the assassination of Gemayel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachir_Gemayel
Title: Joe Rogan is for Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 29, 2022, 03:48:06 PM
https://www.theepochtimes.com/joe-rogan-reveals-likely-choice-for-president-in-2024_4567037.html?utm_source=Goodevening&utm_campaign=gv-2022-06-29&utm_medium=email&est=FNB%2FdcSkCQt9Y%2FJrXXmgTyVOHJb6U2SuyJGWiRuXn%2BBaFj5Ih8rXAdVRmpzlTOwGCHWl
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on June 29, 2022, 03:53:01 PM
not nicki halley?
Title: If DeSantis challenges Trump...
Post by: DougMacG on July 15, 2022, 12:17:57 PM
If DeSantis challenges Trump...

Trump will call him names.  What names?

DeSantis will be asked what he thinks about that.  If I advised him, the answer is:
"If Trump is the nominee, I will vote for him.  Now you ask Mr. Trump, "if I am the nominee, will he vote for me?"

"Untested"?  Yes and no.  Actually he has been quite thoroughly tested, and passed with flying colors.  No one is fully tested at this level before they get there. 

Don't know his foreign policy?  Every indication is that it will be just fine, and better than the Dem alternatives.  Best foreign policy is simple, strengthen America first.  Previously suggested, name Mike Pompeo as his VP or Sec State.  If Pompeo runs against him, name him anyway. "That's who I would like as my top foreign policy adviser.  )
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 15, 2022, 01:16:23 PM
I just signed up for some Pompeo thing on FB so now I regularly get missives (mostly asking for money) asking about his campaign.

I don't think he has a prayer of the nomination, let alone the presidency (though I do think he would make a truly fine president) but I do like the idea of keeping him in/near the spotlight for future consideration (e.g. Sec State)
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 24, 2022, 11:24:31 PM
From my FB page
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis suspends Soros funded DA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 04, 2022, 12:37:41 PM


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-gov-ron-desantis-suspends-liberal-state-attorney-andrew-warren
Title: NRO: Gov. Ron DeSantis is right on Duty to Enforce the Law
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 04, 2022, 04:56:16 PM
Ron DeSantis Is Right on the Executive Duty to Enforce the Law

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis pauses as he speaks on stage at the Turning Point USA’s Student Action Summit in Tampa, Fla., July 22, 2022. (Marco Bello/Reuters)
By DAN MCLAUGHLIN
August 4, 2022 2:13 PM

The Florida governor may look like he’s engaging in a power grab, but as the executive, he’s standing up for a core rule-of-law value.
The rule of law is vital to the American system of government. Our system is designed, in the words of John Adams, “to the end that it may be a government of laws and not of men.” That core value imposes a variety of different obligations on different actors in the system. Today’s big announcement by Ron DeSantis, suspending a county attorney who refused as a matter of policy to enforce Florida laws he disliked, highlights one of those obligations: the duty of the executive to enforce the laws written by the legislature.

The people choose the government and retain the power to remove its officials: That makes us a democracy. Nobody has an inherited role or a privileged status above the law: That makes us a republic. The rules are written down: That makes our system constitutional. The rule of law binds these strands together. Once the constitution and the laws are written down, there are only two choices: Challenge the laws in court as conflicting with the written constitution, or change the constitution or the laws through the democratic process. In the meantime, there are only two outcomes: Either the rules are binding as written on everyone, or the people are no longer in charge of the government.

Adams used the phrase “a government of laws and not of men” in the Massachusetts Constitution of 1780 to justify the rigorous separation of powers: Only the legislature writes laws, only the executive enforces them, and only the judiciary interprets them. John Marshall used the same phrase in Marbury v. Madison to emphasize a related but distinct point: Judges have not just the power to declare laws invalid if they violate the Constitution, but a duty to do so in order to restrain the legislature: “To what purpose are powers limited, and to what purpose is that limitation committed to writing, if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained? The distinction between a government with limited and unlimited powers is abolished. . . .”

Marshall’s point is an important one: The rule of written law is a restraint on action, but it is also a command to act. If actors in the system do not carry out their assigned roles, others will be able to escape their restraints. The rule of law is always a two-way street. The two-way value is tested in controversies such as whether to prosecute Donald Trump. On the one hand, the rule of law is degraded if Trump’s status as an ex-president is grounds to never charge him with a crime; on the other hand, the rule of law is also degraded if he is charged under a novel and creatively expansive theory of the law just because of who he is. The same goes for prosecuting cops.

The rule of law matters within the executive branch, and it runs both ways there as well. Because the president and the administrative agencies are not empowered to make the laws — and neither is the typical governor, mayor, or district attorney — executive power may not be expanded into the area of lawmaking by executive orders or administrative agency rules. But it is just as much a violation of the rule of law, and just as much an assault on the democratic and constitutional nature of our system, for executive officials simply to nullify laws by a blanket refusal to enforce them.

Of course, executive officials — presidents, governors, prosecutors, cops — have always had discretion in individual cases, and even in some classes of similarly situated factual situations, in deciding when a law will not be blindly enforced to the letter where the evidence is dubious or application of the law would work some clear injustice not intended by the legislature. Indeed, laws are typically written with a baseline faith in the common sense of the authorities enforcing them. But that is quite different from declaring to the citizenry that whole categories of offenses will not be enforced.


Likewise, there are some situations in which an executive’s oath to the federal and/or state constitutions require or permit the executive to determine that a particular law is unconstitutional and decline to enforce or defend it. The scope of that power or duty, however, has been a hotly contested one, and it is subordinate to the final say of the courts. It should never be used to simply nullify a law so that the courts do not even get the opportunity to decide the law’s validity in an adversarial proceeding in which the people are represented by someone committed to defending the law they made.

Each of these components of our rule-of-law system is anathema to progressives. Under the progressive idea of supervised democracy, the power of the people to make laws is subject to supervision and review by a variety of elite checks, including elected and unelected executives deciding which laws not to enforce and which offenders to treat with mass amnesty, a “Deep State” or “experts” and bureaucrats in areas such as national security and public health deciding which presidential and gubernatorial policies they will not follow, and judges declaring some topics off-limits to democratic self-government based on an “evolving” rule nowhere written in our constitutions.

The fad for progressive district attorneys deciding that they will not enforce whole swaths of law has been one of the distinguishing features of this regime. Many of those DAs are elected officials, but they are still local officials charged not only with enforcing written laws, but often written statewide laws that are supposed to be binding on them. So it is with Hillsborough County state attorney Andrew Warren.

Warren, a Democrat, holds an elected position equivalent to a district attorney in other states, covering Tampa and St. Petersburg. He signed a public letter refusing to enforce Florida’s 15-week abortion ban or its partial-birth abortion ban. While that could arguably be defended on the theory that the 15-week law is unconstitutional under Florida law (a matter sure to be decided in the near future by the Florida Supreme Court), this was a joint statement with prosecutors across the country, and not targeted to an argument under Florida law. Instead, in the sections cited in the order issued by DeSantis, Warren joined other prosecutors in declaring himself above his own state’s laws and committed to a campaign of massive resistance to those laws:

We [the undersigned prosecutors] decline to use our offices’ resources to criminalize reproductive health decisions and commit to exercise our well-settled discretion and refrain from prosecuting those who . . . provide, or support abortions. . . . Our legislatures may decide to criminalize personal healthcare decisions, but we remain obligated to prosecute only those cases that serve the interests of justice and the people. (Emphasis added).

Warren was the only county attorney in Florida to sign the letter. This is hardly the only example; another joint letter Warren signed with many prosecutors inside and outside Florida pledged “to use our discretion and not promote the criminalization of gender-affirming healthcare or transgender people.” DeSantis cited additional policies such as “presumptive non-enforcement for certain criminal violations, including trespassing at a business location, disorderly conduct, disorderly intoxication, and prostitution” and “against prosecuting crimes where the initial encounter between law enforcement and the defendant results from a non-criminal violation in connection with riding a bicycle or a pedestrian violation.”

As DeSantis emphasized at his press conference, “Our government is a government of laws, not a government of men. . . . We are not going to allow this pathogen of ignoring the law get a foothold here in the state of Florida. We are going to make sure our laws are enforced and that no individual prosecutor puts themselves above the law.” The governor continued: “To take the position that you have veto power over the laws of this state is untenable.” DeSantis argued that a prosecutor may not use his discretion “to effectively nullify what the legislature has done.” He had Warren escorted out of his office.

As a matter of core democratic rule-of-law principles, DeSantis is absolutely right on this. This is not the first time that DeSantis has used this power: He suspended Broward County sheriff Scott Israel after Parkland, Palm Beach supervisor of elections Susan Bucher for the failure of Broward and Palm Beach counties to meet ballot-counting deadlines in 2018, and the superintendent of Okaloosa County Schools over a grand-jury report of abuse of special-needs kids in her district. This is a more confrontational approach than taken by Rick Scott, who simply removed capital cases out of the hands of a county attorney who refused to use the death penalty.

Whether the Florida courts back DeSantis’s authority to suspend Warren under Florida law remains to be seen, but Warren will have an uphill battle. Article IV, Section 7(a) of the Florida Constitution explicitly empowers this sort of action:

By executive order stating the grounds and filed with the custodian of state records, the governor may suspend from office…any county officer, for malfeasance, misfeasance, neglect of duty, drunkenness, incompetence, permanent inability to perform official duties, or commission of a felony, and may fill the office by appointment for the period of suspension.

Moreover, the power to review DeSantis’s decision rests primarily with Florida’s Republican-controlled senate, which is likely to back him up, rather than with the courts. Section 7(b) of the Florida Constitution empowers the Florida Senate to “reinstate the suspended official [in a] special session by its president or by a majority of its membership.” As the Florida Supreme Court reiterated in 2019 when it upheld DeSantis’s suspension of Israel, the state’s longstanding rule is that judicial review is limited to deciding whether the facts recited by the governor amount to a legally sufficient case for suspension. So, if Warren wants to argue that he is not actually guilty of neglect of duty, he has to present his case to the Florida Senate, not to the courts.

Can Warren convince the courts that the refusal to enforce whole categories of law is not what “neglect of duty” means under Florida law? That is likewise dubious. In Israel’s case, the Florida Supreme Court read “duty” broadly to encompass not just non-discretionary duties commanded by statute, but also such matters as Israel’s failure to provide proper training and protocols for mass-shooting situations. In State ex rel. Hardee v. Allen (1937), cited by DeSantis in his order, the Florida Supreme Court upheld the governor’s removal of Tampa’s prosecutor on the basis of an order alleging that gambling was widespread in the county and citing the near-total absence of gambling prosecutions. The court concluded that “to knowingly permit gambling and prefer no charges therefor was a neglect of duty,” and would not consider the question in further depth: “The character, sufficiency, weight, and all things pertaining to the evidence were questions for the Senate, with which the Court has no concern.”

Once again, DeSantis has picked a battle where his powers of office appear to be firmly arrayed behind him, his chosen fight intersects between conservative cultural causes and a broader law-and-order value, and he is speaking simultaneously to state and local voters concerned about irresponsible progressive district attorneys and national voters looking for someone to tame the administrative state. In that sense, this is politically shrewd. It is also a welcome stand for democratic, republican, constitutional government under a rule of written law.
Title: Re: NRO: Gov. Ron DeSantis is right on Duty to Enforce the Law
Post by: G M on August 04, 2022, 08:20:00 PM
Trump: Mean tweets

DeSantis: Actual wins.


Ron DeSantis Is Right on the Executive Duty to Enforce the Law

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis pauses as he speaks on stage at the Turning Point USA’s Student Action Summit in Tampa, Fla., July 22, 2022. (Marco Bello/Reuters)
By DAN MCLAUGHLIN
August 4, 2022 2:13 PM

The Florida governor may look like he’s engaging in a power grab, but as the executive, he’s standing up for a core rule-of-law value.
The rule of law is vital to the American system of government. Our system is designed, in the words of John Adams, “to the end that it may be a government of laws and not of men.” That core value imposes a variety of different obligations on different actors in the system. Today’s big announcement by Ron DeSantis, suspending a county attorney who refused as a matter of policy to enforce Florida laws he disliked, highlights one of those obligations: the duty of the executive to enforce the laws written by the legislature.

The people choose the government and retain the power to remove its officials: That makes us a democracy. Nobody has an inherited role or a privileged status above the law: That makes us a republic. The rules are written down: That makes our system constitutional. The rule of law binds these strands together. Once the constitution and the laws are written down, there are only two choices: Challenge the laws in court as conflicting with the written constitution, or change the constitution or the laws through the democratic process. In the meantime, there are only two outcomes: Either the rules are binding as written on everyone, or the people are no longer in charge of the government.

Adams used the phrase “a government of laws and not of men” in the Massachusetts Constitution of 1780 to justify the rigorous separation of powers: Only the legislature writes laws, only the executive enforces them, and only the judiciary interprets them. John Marshall used the same phrase in Marbury v. Madison to emphasize a related but distinct point: Judges have not just the power to declare laws invalid if they violate the Constitution, but a duty to do so in order to restrain the legislature: “To what purpose are powers limited, and to what purpose is that limitation committed to writing, if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained? The distinction between a government with limited and unlimited powers is abolished. . . .”

Marshall’s point is an important one: The rule of written law is a restraint on action, but it is also a command to act. If actors in the system do not carry out their assigned roles, others will be able to escape their restraints. The rule of law is always a two-way street. The two-way value is tested in controversies such as whether to prosecute Donald Trump. On the one hand, the rule of law is degraded if Trump’s status as an ex-president is grounds to never charge him with a crime; on the other hand, the rule of law is also degraded if he is charged under a novel and creatively expansive theory of the law just because of who he is. The same goes for prosecuting cops.

The rule of law matters within the executive branch, and it runs both ways there as well. Because the president and the administrative agencies are not empowered to make the laws — and neither is the typical governor, mayor, or district attorney — executive power may not be expanded into the area of lawmaking by executive orders or administrative agency rules. But it is just as much a violation of the rule of law, and just as much an assault on the democratic and constitutional nature of our system, for executive officials simply to nullify laws by a blanket refusal to enforce them.

Of course, executive officials — presidents, governors, prosecutors, cops — have always had discretion in individual cases, and even in some classes of similarly situated factual situations, in deciding when a law will not be blindly enforced to the letter where the evidence is dubious or application of the law would work some clear injustice not intended by the legislature. Indeed, laws are typically written with a baseline faith in the common sense of the authorities enforcing them. But that is quite different from declaring to the citizenry that whole categories of offenses will not be enforced.


Likewise, there are some situations in which an executive’s oath to the federal and/or state constitutions require or permit the executive to determine that a particular law is unconstitutional and decline to enforce or defend it. The scope of that power or duty, however, has been a hotly contested one, and it is subordinate to the final say of the courts. It should never be used to simply nullify a law so that the courts do not even get the opportunity to decide the law’s validity in an adversarial proceeding in which the people are represented by someone committed to defending the law they made.

Each of these components of our rule-of-law system is anathema to progressives. Under the progressive idea of supervised democracy, the power of the people to make laws is subject to supervision and review by a variety of elite checks, including elected and unelected executives deciding which laws not to enforce and which offenders to treat with mass amnesty, a “Deep State” or “experts” and bureaucrats in areas such as national security and public health deciding which presidential and gubernatorial policies they will not follow, and judges declaring some topics off-limits to democratic self-government based on an “evolving” rule nowhere written in our constitutions.

The fad for progressive district attorneys deciding that they will not enforce whole swaths of law has been one of the distinguishing features of this regime. Many of those DAs are elected officials, but they are still local officials charged not only with enforcing written laws, but often written statewide laws that are supposed to be binding on them. So it is with Hillsborough County state attorney Andrew Warren.

Warren, a Democrat, holds an elected position equivalent to a district attorney in other states, covering Tampa and St. Petersburg. He signed a public letter refusing to enforce Florida’s 15-week abortion ban or its partial-birth abortion ban. While that could arguably be defended on the theory that the 15-week law is unconstitutional under Florida law (a matter sure to be decided in the near future by the Florida Supreme Court), this was a joint statement with prosecutors across the country, and not targeted to an argument under Florida law. Instead, in the sections cited in the order issued by DeSantis, Warren joined other prosecutors in declaring himself above his own state’s laws and committed to a campaign of massive resistance to those laws:

We [the undersigned prosecutors] decline to use our offices’ resources to criminalize reproductive health decisions and commit to exercise our well-settled discretion and refrain from prosecuting those who . . . provide, or support abortions. . . . Our legislatures may decide to criminalize personal healthcare decisions, but we remain obligated to prosecute only those cases that serve the interests of justice and the people. (Emphasis added).

Warren was the only county attorney in Florida to sign the letter. This is hardly the only example; another joint letter Warren signed with many prosecutors inside and outside Florida pledged “to use our discretion and not promote the criminalization of gender-affirming healthcare or transgender people.” DeSantis cited additional policies such as “presumptive non-enforcement for certain criminal violations, including trespassing at a business location, disorderly conduct, disorderly intoxication, and prostitution” and “against prosecuting crimes where the initial encounter between law enforcement and the defendant results from a non-criminal violation in connection with riding a bicycle or a pedestrian violation.”

As DeSantis emphasized at his press conference, “Our government is a government of laws, not a government of men. . . . We are not going to allow this pathogen of ignoring the law get a foothold here in the state of Florida. We are going to make sure our laws are enforced and that no individual prosecutor puts themselves above the law.” The governor continued: “To take the position that you have veto power over the laws of this state is untenable.” DeSantis argued that a prosecutor may not use his discretion “to effectively nullify what the legislature has done.” He had Warren escorted out of his office.

As a matter of core democratic rule-of-law principles, DeSantis is absolutely right on this. This is not the first time that DeSantis has used this power: He suspended Broward County sheriff Scott Israel after Parkland, Palm Beach supervisor of elections Susan Bucher for the failure of Broward and Palm Beach counties to meet ballot-counting deadlines in 2018, and the superintendent of Okaloosa County Schools over a grand-jury report of abuse of special-needs kids in her district. This is a more confrontational approach than taken by Rick Scott, who simply removed capital cases out of the hands of a county attorney who refused to use the death penalty.

Whether the Florida courts back DeSantis’s authority to suspend Warren under Florida law remains to be seen, but Warren will have an uphill battle. Article IV, Section 7(a) of the Florida Constitution explicitly empowers this sort of action:

By executive order stating the grounds and filed with the custodian of state records, the governor may suspend from office…any county officer, for malfeasance, misfeasance, neglect of duty, drunkenness, incompetence, permanent inability to perform official duties, or commission of a felony, and may fill the office by appointment for the period of suspension.

Moreover, the power to review DeSantis’s decision rests primarily with Florida’s Republican-controlled senate, which is likely to back him up, rather than with the courts. Section 7(b) of the Florida Constitution empowers the Florida Senate to “reinstate the suspended official [in a] special session by its president or by a majority of its membership.” As the Florida Supreme Court reiterated in 2019 when it upheld DeSantis’s suspension of Israel, the state’s longstanding rule is that judicial review is limited to deciding whether the facts recited by the governor amount to a legally sufficient case for suspension. So, if Warren wants to argue that he is not actually guilty of neglect of duty, he has to present his case to the Florida Senate, not to the courts.

Can Warren convince the courts that the refusal to enforce whole categories of law is not what “neglect of duty” means under Florida law? That is likewise dubious. In Israel’s case, the Florida Supreme Court read “duty” broadly to encompass not just non-discretionary duties commanded by statute, but also such matters as Israel’s failure to provide proper training and protocols for mass-shooting situations. In State ex rel. Hardee v. Allen (1937), cited by DeSantis in his order, the Florida Supreme Court upheld the governor’s removal of Tampa’s prosecutor on the basis of an order alleging that gambling was widespread in the county and citing the near-total absence of gambling prosecutions. The court concluded that “to knowingly permit gambling and prefer no charges therefor was a neglect of duty,” and would not consider the question in further depth: “The character, sufficiency, weight, and all things pertaining to the evidence were questions for the Senate, with which the Court has no concern.”

Once again, DeSantis has picked a battle where his powers of office appear to be firmly arrayed behind him, his chosen fight intersects between conservative cultural causes and a broader law-and-order value, and he is speaking simultaneously to state and local voters concerned about irresponsible progressive district attorneys and national voters looking for someone to tame the administrative state. In that sense, this is politically shrewd. It is also a welcome stand for democratic, republican, constitutional government under a rule of written law.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 05, 2022, 03:12:16 PM
"Trump: Mean tweets

"DeSantis: Actual wins."

Which is a big reason why if I had to choose between the two today, I would choose DeSantis.

That said, we have much to learn about DeS's views on geopolitics.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: G M on August 05, 2022, 08:38:34 PM
"Trump: Mean tweets

"DeSantis: Actual wins."

Which is a big reason why if I had to choose between the two today, I would choose DeSantis.

That said, we have much to learn about DeS's views on geopolitics.

In Trump's defense, the Deep State was waging war on him before he was even sworn in. He was only nominally president before the coup.

DeSantis is much more of a threat to the Deep State, which is why he is much more at risk for the Dealey Plaza option from the DS.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: DougMacG on August 05, 2022, 08:52:11 PM
"Trump: Mean tweets

"DeSantis: Actual wins."

Which is a big reason why if I had to choose between the two today, I would choose DeSantis.

That said, we have much to learn about DeS's views on geopolitics.

"Commonsense DeSantis."
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on August 06, 2022, 06:16:37 AM
"DeSantis is much more of a threat to the Deep State, which is why he is much more at risk for the Dealey Plaza option from the DS"

I hope Gov Ron has really good loyal security !

Interesting that Gov of California (governor Loathsome) is going after the Gov of Florida (Gov Ron) at the start of his own  '24 presidential run.
.

to please the Democrat mega donors and start the buzz about him in the left wing media.

Title: Florida prosecutor typical Democrat lawyer to fight DeSantis
Post by: ccp on August 08, 2022, 08:38:19 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-prosecutor-vows-fight-gov-172639296.html

of course
and now he will guest on every MSM talk show and we will have to see every leftist legal analyst bore us with their take on this for many months.....

always to make a point that DeSantis is a terrible unjust fascist undemocratic tyrant......

Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis: FL arrests 20 over voter fraud
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 19, 2022, 03:02:11 PM
https://www.oann.com/fla-arresting-20-individuals-over-voter-fraud/
Title: NRO
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 23, 2022, 01:18:15 PM
The #Resistance Playbook Fails Democrats in Florida

On the menu today: Those outside Florida may shrug at today’s Democratic gubernatorial primary, but the expected victory of Charlie Crist over Nikki Fried is likely to offer a key lesson to those willing to pay attention. The #Resistance playbook that worked for Democrats in 2018 and 2020 — furiously demonizing Donald Trump as a threat to all that is good — isn’t working against incumbent governor Ron DeSantis. Never mind Floridians as a whole; that approach can’t even close the deal among Florida’s Democrats. In other news, it’s publication day.

The Dems’ Plan to Beat DeSantis Flames Out

Today, Florida holds its primaries, along with New York and Oklahoma. Besides the surprisingly personal demolition derby in Manhattan discussed yesterday, perhaps the most intriguing primary will be in Florida’s Democratic gubernatorial primary, where former governor and current representative Charlie Crist and state agriculture commissioner Nikki Fried are competing for the right to lose to Ron DeSantis.

Florida Democrats will scream that that sentence is incorrect, and that the general election hasn’t been resolved yet. But in polling, DeSantis consistently leads Crist and Fried, and neither one is particularly close; in the RealClearPolitics average, Crist is trailing by 6.2 percentage points, and Fried is trailing by 9.6 percentage points.

There are good reasons to think that the governor’s race ended before it started. Four years ago, the Democrats had near-ideal political winds, with a broad national backlash to President Trump, and yet DeSantis still hung on to win by four-tenths of a percentage point over Andrew Gillum who, it turns out, was nowhere near ready for prime-time. DeSantis outperformed his final polling average by about four percentage points in 2018. The incumbent has more than $130 million to spend. The Democratic Governors Association is deprioritizing the state.

So why does today’s Florida primary matter? Because Fried entered the governor’s race attempting to run the “#Resistance” playbook against Ron DeSantis the way most Democrats ran it against Donald Trump in 2018 and 2020. (Trump fans may not want to acknowledge this, but the attacks largely worked, as Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate, the presidency, and a lot of governor’s mansions in those cycles.) Both as state agriculture commissioner and as a gubernatorial candidate, Fried channeled the progressive id, denouncing DeSantis as heartless, an authoritarian dictator, and a threat to the rights of women and minorities, accusing him of launching a “war on education” and “courting violent, white-supremacist insurrectionists.”

And . . . it appears that this approach is getting her nowhere. Never mind not giving Fried the lead against DeSantis. The angry #Resistance tone isn’t even getting her any traction against Crist, who’s not exactly a whirling dervish of raw political charisma.

The most recent poll has Crist ahead of Fried by nearly 30 percentage points; while one or two surveys point to a closer race, most have him leading handily. If Crist wins by the expected margin, it will be a case of a young progressive touted as the state party’s “new hope” crashing and burning when put before the electorate in the big stage — and falling flat when up against one of the most tired and well-worn retreads in the state. And perhaps the most interesting aspect of her defeat will be how Democratic interest groups turned their noses up at her.

Emily’s List endorsed Crist, even though he used to be pro-life. The state teachers’ unions are endorsing Crist, as are the state AFL-CIO, the state’s largest gay-rights group, and the state Sierra Club and Florida Conservation Voters. A few days ago, the Progressive Club of the Islands rescinded its endorsement of Fried and endorsed Crist, concluding that Fried had been too cozy with big industry during her term as agriculture commissioner.

She must be one of the very few Jewish political candidates to ever earn a rebuke from the Anti-Defamation League for comparing DeSantis to Hitler: “While public officials may have disagreements over policies, comparisons to the Holocaust and Nazism are inappropriate, offensive, and trivialize this unique tragedy in human history.”

Fried pitched herself as as a young rising star, the next great progressive hope. Yet she hasn’t actually won over progressive interest groups, which raises the question of where her actual base of support is.

At the beginning of the year, our Charlie Cooke contended that she was a wildly overrated candidate — in fact, he said she was:

The most inadequate, embarrassing, and downright befuddling political candidate the great state of Florida has seen in a long while. . . . In the last month alone, Fried has compared sitting governor Ron DeSantis to Adolf Hitler and a Communist dictator; she has implied that the northern part of the state is an extended trailer park, of the sort that will be easily swayed by suggestive selfies; and she has rewritten the story of the 2018 gubernatorial election to make herself its hero. Were he to have proffered Fried some professional advice, Walter Mitty himself might have urged her to calm down.

In the past eight months, Fried hasn’t done much to prove Charlie wrong.

If you think the media-hype-to-performance ratio of young progressive candidates is all out of whack, Nikki Fried is about to become your Exhibit A. And while it’s unlikely that many will heed the lesson of her loss, she’s vivid counterevidence to Democrats’ favorite explanation that they lose because they’re too nice and just aren’t tough or aggressive enough. Fried’s attacks on DeSantis have been more than nasty enough; judging from the reaction of Democratic interest groups, none of them have much faith that her I’m-running-against-Florida’s-Hitler approach is going to work. They took a long look at her and concluded, “Nah, we’ll go with the guy who lost his last two statewide campaigns.”

As for the likely Democratic nominee, Crist is an odd duck. A long time ago, Crist called Ronald Reagan his role model. He not-so-subtly auditioned to be John McCain’s running mate in 2008. Then Crist shifted to run as an independent once Marco Rubio was running a successful primary challenge in the 2010 Senate race, and then after Crist lost that race, he switched to the Democratic Party. (Along the way, he taped some truly cringe-inducing commercials for a personal-injury-law firm: “Its website includes auto accidents, cruise ship injuries and dog bites.”)

Eight years ago, I wrote about how Crist had nearly completed a political transformation, imagining a scenario in which the Charlie Crist of 2010 traveled forward in time to campaign against the gubernatorial bid of the Charlie Crist of 2014. I ended the piece, “Amid flashes of light and intense wind, a second time portal opened, and the Charlie Crist of 2018 appeared, denouncing Crist 2014 for being ‘too centrist’ and ‘insufficiently progressive.’” Looking at the once-unthinkably far-left agenda Crist has today, I was off by four years. Apparently, Crist’s lone unbreakable principle is his firm belief that he should be governor.

Today’s Florida is not the almost-evenly divided swing state of 2000 legends; the purple state has turned redder and redder, and Democratic statewide wins are growing increasingly few and far between. Democrats literally haven’t won a governor’s race in Florida since the last century, in 1994. They haven’t won a Senate race since 2012. (You would think Republicans from coast to coast would want to study why that’s the case and try to see what lessons they could apply to their own states.)

As recently as 2017, Florida had 4.8 million registered Democrats, outnumbering the 4.5 million registered Republicans. As of last month, Florida now has 4.9 million registered Democrats and almost 5.2 million registered Republicans. That big shift toward Republicans in the Latino vote? That’s happening in Florida.

What particularly stings Florida Democrats is that, not that long ago, they thought the state’s shifting demographics were about the lead them to permanent victory conditions. People forget that in 2012, Barack Obama almost evenly split the Cuban-American vote in the state, 47 percent to Mitt Romney’s 50 percent. Obama won the state of Florida in both 2008 and 2012, and not getting walloped among the state’s Cuban-American community was a key factor in those wins. Many Florida Democrats convinced themselves that Cuban Americans were starting to vote like more Democratic-leaning groups of Latino Americans.

As Charlie Cooke summarized:

Through its insistence upon perpetual masking, its preference for neologisms such as “Latinx,” its relentless attempts to push radicalism on children, and its indifference to the South American communists whom many Floridians have fled, the contemporary Democratic Party may finally have done the impossible: For now, at least, it may have made Florida a safely red state.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 05, 2022, 11:14:11 AM
DeSantis has a tricky hand to play right now.   

Presumably he does not want to get in a food fight with Trump, yet he needs to preserve his own brand.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/desantis-criticizes-bidens-campaign-speech-as-disgusting_4709725.html?utm_source=China&utm_campaign=uschina-2022-09-05&utm_medium=email&est=j79eFVASvXgD0HW9zLo16BM9KWVBnjOjcrvomFHZXPj2wEOlfQ9zUuaE9VpNl%2FhLOeVV
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis to take out FL CAIR
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 08, 2022, 03:55:54 PM
https://www.meforum.org/63538/desantis-accuses-cair-of-deception-ousts-it-from?utm_source=sendinblue&utm_campaign=Extremist%20Roundup%202022-09-08&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on September 08, 2022, 04:45:04 PM
if Trump

asks DeSantis to run as VP

I would suggest he says NO

just wait till '28 if needed .

does not look at this time he could run against Trump
though long way off.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 09, 2022, 02:01:13 AM
First choice:

DeSantis.

Second choice:  DeSantis runs as Trump's VP.


Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis activates National Guard at State Prisons
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 12, 2022, 04:35:43 PM
ET
Gov. DeSantis Activates National Guard at Florida State Prisons
By Jack Phillips September 12, 2022



Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has activated the state National Guard in a bid to aid corrections officers amid staffing issues at prisons.

The Department of Corrections “is authorized to employ over 20,000 correctional and correctional probation officers, almost a quarter of all state employees,” the governor’s order states, noting that there’s currently a “severe shortage” of officers that “threatens the safety” of inmates, officers, and the public.

The state’s corrections agency said that National Guard members will be deployed as a supplemental measure to security posts at some institutions. They will be supervised by respective prison wardens or similar staff, the agency said.

“We think, as we continue to hire and reduce the stress on the compounds, the existing officers are going to want to stay because they’re not going to work that amount of overtime they’re currently working,” Department of Corrections Chief Financial Officer Mark Tallent told WPTV. “They’re going to have a better family life, be able to get out of the institution more. We definitely think we’re trending in the right direction.”

The Guard members won’t be expected to directly supervise inmates, according to DeSantis’s order.

“Members of the Guard have the training and capability to assist Florida’s correctional officers with certain duties, such as manning guard towers, perimeter patrols, and control stations, which will allow the correctional officers to concentrate on directly supervising and caring for inmates,” the Republican governor’s order reads.

Financial Incentives
Earlier this year, DeSantis approved a pay increase to recruit and retrain current corrections officers.

Florida National Guard Lt. Col. Peter Jennison told the Tallahassee Democrat newspaper that he expects all the Guard members who are assigned would volunteer for the prison assignments.

Tallent said that as many as 300 National Guard members would be deployed.

“We think we’ll be able to right-size ourselves by the end of the fiscal year,” he said.

Democrats in the state Legislature expressed concerns about DeSantis’s order. A leader within the Florida Democratic caucus said the Legislature has ignored funding of the Department of Corrections for years.

“Florida has ignored this agency and ignored this problem, and underfunded this agency for years,” Democrat House Minority Leader-designate Rep. Fentrice Driskell said on Sept. 9. “Now, it looks like the governor wants to activate the Florida National Guard, which will take people away from their homes, their families, and their jobs.”

Nonetheless, members of the Joint Legislative Budget Commission voted on Sept. 9 to approve sending Florida National Guard members to the prisons. The GOP and most Democrats supported the plan, with Sen. Audrey Gibson and Rep. Ramon Alexander opposing it.

Shortly after the vote, DeSantis activated the Guard via executive order, local media reported.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis activates National Guard at State Prisons
Post by: G M on September 12, 2022, 09:28:49 PM
Funny how after villifying law enforcement, now we can't fill positions.



ET
Gov. DeSantis Activates National Guard at Florida State Prisons
By Jack Phillips September 12, 2022



Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has activated the state National Guard in a bid to aid corrections officers amid staffing issues at prisons.

The Department of Corrections “is authorized to employ over 20,000 correctional and correctional probation officers, almost a quarter of all state employees,” the governor’s order states, noting that there’s currently a “severe shortage” of officers that “threatens the safety” of inmates, officers, and the public.

The state’s corrections agency said that National Guard members will be deployed as a supplemental measure to security posts at some institutions. They will be supervised by respective prison wardens or similar staff, the agency said.

“We think, as we continue to hire and reduce the stress on the compounds, the existing officers are going to want to stay because they’re not going to work that amount of overtime they’re currently working,” Department of Corrections Chief Financial Officer Mark Tallent told WPTV. “They’re going to have a better family life, be able to get out of the institution more. We definitely think we’re trending in the right direction.”

The Guard members won’t be expected to directly supervise inmates, according to DeSantis’s order.

“Members of the Guard have the training and capability to assist Florida’s correctional officers with certain duties, such as manning guard towers, perimeter patrols, and control stations, which will allow the correctional officers to concentrate on directly supervising and caring for inmates,” the Republican governor’s order reads.

Financial Incentives
Earlier this year, DeSantis approved a pay increase to recruit and retrain current corrections officers.

Florida National Guard Lt. Col. Peter Jennison told the Tallahassee Democrat newspaper that he expects all the Guard members who are assigned would volunteer for the prison assignments.

Tallent said that as many as 300 National Guard members would be deployed.

“We think we’ll be able to right-size ourselves by the end of the fiscal year,” he said.

Democrats in the state Legislature expressed concerns about DeSantis’s order. A leader within the Florida Democratic caucus said the Legislature has ignored funding of the Department of Corrections for years.

“Florida has ignored this agency and ignored this problem, and underfunded this agency for years,” Democrat House Minority Leader-designate Rep. Fentrice Driskell said on Sept. 9. “Now, it looks like the governor wants to activate the Florida National Guard, which will take people away from their homes, their families, and their jobs.”

Nonetheless, members of the Joint Legislative Budget Commission voted on Sept. 9 to approve sending Florida National Guard members to the prisons. The GOP and most Democrats supported the plan, with Sen. Audrey Gibson and Rep. Ramon Alexander opposing it.

Shortly after the vote, DeSantis activated the Guard via executive order, local media reported.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 13, 2022, 03:05:10 PM
Once again, DeSantis shows his real world executive chops.

Crisp call him "DeSatan" btw , , ,
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis sends illegals to Martha's Vineyard
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 15, 2022, 06:26:09 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62911630?fbclid=IwAR1HrZSrhmWUAN4Tjrqh5OHTJ8c5y5GI7fD4SMMFpiCt-nQFKGKWWRnmU-I
Title: illegals to MV MASS
Post by: ccp on September 15, 2022, 02:14:02 PM
and the Martha's Vineyard elites are
furious:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/fing-depraved-democrats-melt-down-after-desantis-flies-illegal-immigrants-to-marthas-vineyard/



Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis FTW!
Post by: G M on September 17, 2022, 08:07:03 AM
https://twitter.com/RealKyleMorris/status/1570873626710388738
Title: national guard called by Mass Gov. for the migrant "emergency"
Post by: ccp on September 17, 2022, 08:18:36 AM
https://nypost.com/2022/09/16/marthas-vineyard-migrants-sent-to-cape-cod-mass-calls-national-guard/

you know Obama et al got on the phone to the gov

use of NG

to make a point:

"we have the military apparatus on our side "

any thoughts?
Title: Re: national guard called by Mass Gov. for the migrant "emergency"
Post by: G M on September 17, 2022, 08:24:24 AM
https://nypost.com/2022/09/16/marthas-vineyard-migrants-sent-to-cape-cod-mass-calls-national-guard/

you know Obama et al got on the phone to the gov

use of NG

to make a point:

"we have the military apparatus on our side "

any thoughts?

The fake and gay military will put you into camps or shoot you if ordered to do so.

Plan accordingly.
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis bill to block ChiCom land buys next to bases in FL
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 22, 2022, 08:11:58 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/22/desantis-chinese-land-buyouts/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking&pnespid=pLM9BT1VZaYcg.DJ_CSwTJGWvAKqRItwfeW_wfNz80JmIMEp1nStMo2aaGKFVx.DAojOrk8e
Title: game on
Post by: ccp on September 23, 2022, 06:03:38 AM
Kushner bashes DeSantis

and promotes Donald:

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/09/22/kushner-on-desantis-migrants-flights-using-human-beings-as-political-pawns-very-troubling/

[while promoting his self promoting book]

he sounds more like an elite NY liberal here like his father
Title: Re: game on
Post by: G M on September 23, 2022, 07:49:08 AM
Exactly.


Kushner bashes DeSantis

and promotes Donald:

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/09/22/kushner-on-desantis-migrants-flights-using-human-beings-as-political-pawns-very-troubling/

[while promoting his self promoting book]

he sounds more like an elite NY liberal here like his father
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis on the real divide
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 23, 2022, 07:31:47 PM
Migrant Flights Obscure the Real DeSantis Divide
The governor has noted a historic shift that no political outrage will change.
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Wonder Land: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has noted a historic shift that no political outrage will change. Images: AP/Zuma Press/AFP via Getty Images Composite: Mark Kelly

What phenomenon of our time produces more falsity than any other? The list of contenders is long but we have a winner—political outrage. These days it surges by the minute. The past week produced faux political outrage for the record books when Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis flew 50 migrants to Martha’s Vineyard.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom called it “almost monstrous,” adding, “I say that quite thoughtfully.” White House spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre likened the governor to Guatemalan smugglers. Unsurpassable is a long piece by six CNN staffers that says flying 50 migrants to the Vineyard “has revived memories of strikingly similar tactics employed by southern segregationists 60 years ago.”

You probably didn’t notice that Gov. DeSantis did something else last week that has a lot more relevance to this country’s future. We’ll get to that but not before relating Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s view that the migrants being bused to her city from Texas are a “manufactured crisis” even as the federal government said that since January more than two million migrants have come illegally across the southern border in fiscal 2022.

Shortly before the Vineyard controversy, Gov. DeSantis delivered an interesting speech near Miami to a convocation of conservatives. Some called it a test drive of ideas for a presidential run, and it probably was. One DeSantis idea, though, should have caught the eye of anyone focused on the flow of U.S. history.

The governor described something he called a “Great American Exodus.” In short, he means the recent movement of U.S. population out of California and the North—primarily New York, New Jersey and Illinois—into states in the South and West. He says this shift has a “political character,” which he was happy to describe. Since the pandemic began, he said, “more adjusted gross income [moved] into the state of Florida than has ever moved into any one state over a similar time period in American history.”

For years, demographers have studied this population migration from North to South, a shift with significant implications for the economic health and political power of both regions.

In May, the Census Bureau released data noting a large departure from Northern cities between July 2020 and July 2021. The populations of San Francisco fell 6.3%, New York City 3.5%, Boston and Washington both 2.9%. The New York Post reported this week that, according to Florida driver’s-license registrations, 41,885 New Yorkers moved there this year.

More broadly, the Census Bureau reported in 2019 that “Florida had the most domestic inmovers, with 566,476 people moving from another state within the past year.” Meanwhile, “California had the most domestic outmovers, with 661,026 people moving to another state” in the previous year. Some movement has occurred inside state borders, for instance out of New York City to the suburbs or from Los Angeles and San Francisco to inland California counties. The “political character” point is that many cities administered for decades by liberal, and more recently progressive, Democrats are hemorrhaging population.

It’s not just the 1% fleeing high-tax states for lower taxes. Receiving little attention is the fact that black Americans are also moving south, reversing the Great Migration into the North during the 20th century.

Brookings Institution demographer William Frey details this in a September report. Describing what he calls “a virtual evacuation from many northern areas,” Mr. Frey writes the “movement is largely driven by younger, college-educated Black Americans, from both northern and western places of origin. They have contributed to the growth of the ‘New South,’ especially in Texas, Georgia, and North Carolina, as well as metropolitan regions such as Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston.”

Mr. Frey notes that these migrations to the South have increased black Americans’ political power there, much of it flowing to the Democratic Party. But an undeniable reality, emphasized by Gov. DeSantis, is that this movement is overwhelmingly driven by the prospect of greater economic opportunity.


Arguably the biggest boomtown in America is Miami, led by Republican Mayor Francis X. Suarez and described recently in this newspaper. A primary reason, according to the article, is Miami’s “friendlier business climate.”

You’ve probably noticed that the mayors of New York, Chicago and Washington say they lack resources to provide for several thousand migrants. I believe it. Decades of unrestrained public spending have turned their budgets into a ball and chain. Many once-great American population centers are tapped out.

Here’s the kicker, literally: Last week, 13 treasurers from Democratic states including California and Illinois plus New York City’s comptroller issued a letter attacking West Virginia, Idaho, Oklahoma, Texas and Florida for resisting public-pension investments tied to environmental, social and governance sustainability goals. The letter accuses these states of acting on behalf of “corporate interests.” What a spectacle—Democratic state treasurers denouncing corporations that are the bedrock of their tax base. Or were.

His critics call Gov. DeSantis “divisive.” The real DeSantis Divide, however, is about public-policy choices that are causing historic losses in the North and gains in the South and West. No amount of political outrage will change that.
Title: Trump getting jealous
Post by: ccp on September 24, 2022, 10:37:46 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-and-desantis-once-allies-now-in-simmering-rivalry-with-2024-nearing/ar-AA12bTSD

I still say DeSantis would be hurting himself if he were to run on. ticket with Trump

if wasn't 100% on his knees for 4 yrs

trump will turn on him like he always does.

DeSantis has a better future then that

That is why Kushneck had to criticize DeSantis sending illegals to MV . Trump team could not give him credit for it since it was so successful - and trump could not take the glory

IMHO

DeSantis for Prez!! '24


Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 24, 2022, 11:26:33 AM
"That is why Kushneck had to criticize DeSantis sending illegals to MV . Trump team could not give him credit for it since it was so successful - and trump could not take the glory"

I was on the road and did not see this.  Is there a convenient citation?
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on September 24, 2022, 11:38:34 AM
" I was on the road and did not see this.  Is there a convenient citation?"

please
see ccp post from

september 23rd
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 24, 2022, 11:45:21 AM
Thank you.

Kushner is such a cunt, though I must say he is coming across very well now in his TV appearances pushing his book etc.  Very much looks like he is up to something.
Title: lawfare on DeSantis
Post by: ccp on October 03, 2022, 03:53:11 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/story-behind-desantis-migrant-flights-121036625.html

he transported migrants to the Siberia that is MV
without legal permission

what?

who was he supposed to get "legal permission from ?"

Mayorkas?

DNC ?

DC Shysters
Title: word from Florida
Post by: ccp on October 06, 2022, 02:36:11 PM
is DeSantis is doing a great job

with Ian.  :-D

suck off MSM!   :wink:

and without the nasty tweets !
Title: Ron backs anti trump candidate in Colorado
Post by: ccp on October 24, 2022, 11:00:13 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/garland-hold-news-conference-significant-164441880.html

why because he could win

Trump response "big mistake!"   :roll:

Title: DeSantis in NY for Zeldin
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 30, 2022, 06:19:20 PM
Ron DeSantis Stumps for Lee Zeldin

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis campaigns alongside New York Republican gubernatorial hopeful Rep. Lee Zeldin (R., N.Y.) at a Get Out The Vote Rally in Hauppauge, N.Y., October 29, 2022. (David Dee Delgado/Getty Images)
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By DAN MCLAUGHLIN
October 30, 2022 12:12 AM
Lee Zeldin’s campaign for governor of New York now has a classic puncher’s chance: His is still very much an underdog race, with Kathy Hochul still holding a seven-point lead in the poll average, but with nine days to go, the national tailwind at his back, and fresh from capitalizing on gaffes by Hochul at their lone debate Tuesday night, Zeldin is still in the game. Republicans are not sending their frontline talent to help dead-in-the-water candidates like Darren Bailey in Illinois, Geoff Diehl in Massachusetts, or Dan Cox in Maryland. In fact, you know who is campaigning in Maryland the night before the election? Joe Biden.

But for Zeldin, they are rolling out the big guns. In heavily upscale suburban Westchester County north of the Bronx, maybe the single most critical swing county in this race, Virginia governor Glenn Youngkin is campaigning for Zeldin on Monday. That’s a change from 2014, when Rob Astorino ran a respectable but obviously doomed race against Andrew Cuomo, and couldn’t get Chris Christie to campaign for him. Meanwhile, Hochul is calling in Hillary Clinton — maybe the most tone-deaf choice possible even in New York — and First Lady Jill Biden is campaigning for New York congressional candidates upstate.

Then, there’s one of the few Republican stars bigger than Youngkin: Ron DeSantis. DeSantis has been intensely focused on his own re-election campaign — he was noticeably absent from Republican primary fights except in his own state — and he was at the Florida-Georgia game earlier today, but one of the luxuries of a double-digit poll lead is that you can afford to spend a little time helping to build your party’s team. DeSantis planned to come to a Zeldin fundraiser in late August, but had to cancel to attend a funeral for a former member of his protective detail killed in the line of duty. This time, he made it. I drove out to see both Zeldin and DeSantis live on the stump.

The event was behind Zeldin’s campaign headquarters in Hauppauge, which is geographically in the center of Long Island. If Youngkin is the right man for Westchester County crowds, DeSantis is the right man for the Island, which is not the fully-Trumpy areas of economically-desolate upstate, but is stocked with cops, firemen, nurses, and other blue-collar types. It was a cold night, dropping into the mid-40s by the time of the rally, and it was only publicly announced yesterday, but there were thousands in attendance — I’m bad at counting crowds, but an hour before the event, there was a nearly half-mile line to get in. There were people packed behind the press riser where I was stationed with some two dozen members of the media.

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A visit from DeSantis was treated as a big deal by the New York Republicans. We were treated to speeches by Suffolk County GOP Chairman Jesse Garcia, state chairman Nick Langworthy (who is also running for Congress in New York’s 23d district, but could spare the time from a district Donald Trump carried by 17 points in 2020), Nassau County executive Bruce Blakeman (who was elected in the red wave that swept the Island in 2021), Zeldin’s running mate, NYPD Deputy Inspector Alison Esposito (not to be confused with former NYPD detective Anthony D’Esposito, who is the House candidate in my district on the Island), and then finally Zeldin and DeSantis.

This was a very law enforcement-heavy and pro-cop, anti-crime crowd. Langworthy and Blakeman pulled no punches in their warmup speeches: Langworthy said of the supporters of New York’s bail reform laws, “there’s blood on their hands,” and Blakeman urged the crowd to “get down to business throwing out those government officials who masked our kids…and sent our senior citizens back to nursing homes to die!” Esposito zeroed in on Hochul’s big gaffe at the debate, when Zeldin pressed her to talk about actually locking up criminals, and she responded, “I don’t know why that’s so important to you.”


Langworthy also set what would become the central theme of the night, repeated by both Zeldin and DeSantis: that Zeldin would be “our own Ron DeSantis” for New York. A skeptic might say that New York is too ungovernable for a governor in the Ron DeSantis mold to have a similar impact, and it is surely true that getting the Democrat-run state legislature on board would be a harder slog, but New Yorkers of a certain age remember being told the same thing about an ungovernable state and city before Rudy Giuliani became mayor of New York City in 1993 and George Pataki was elected governor of the state in 1994 — leading to positive changes in the state’s day-to-day life as dramatic as any in American political experience in the past three decades.

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The two headliners are, at first glance, quite similar. DeSantis, at 44, is the nation’s youngest governor; Zeldin, at 42, would supplant him for that title if elected. Both served in Iraq; both have law degrees and have been prosecutors. Both were elected as Tea Party congressmen, then served together in the House during the Trump era and adapted themselves accordingly. Both are fathers of two daughters, although Zeldin’s girls are teenagers and DeSantis also has a son. Zeldin has survived leukemia; DeSantis has seen his wife through breast cancer. DeSantis is an Italian Catholic in the South, Zeldin a Jewish Republican, making both of them outsiders of a sort. DeSantis was an eyewitness to the congressional baseball shooting, having passed and spoken with the assassin on his way out of the practice; Zeldin survived an attempted stabbing while giving a speech upstate during this campaign.

DeSantis played up the parallels. His speech settled into a recurring callout: Here’s what I did in Florida, New York didn’t do it, but Lee Zeldin will. They also offered bookends: Zeldin talked about why people are leaving New York, and DeSantis talked about why New Yorkers are coming to Florida. Those themes recurred across issues: vaccine and mask mandates, taxes, crime, parents’ rights in education, rogue prosecutors who won’t enforce the law. Zeldin emphasized, in terms that could have come straight from a DeSantis stump speech, that “A parent has a fundamental right to control the upbringing of their children, and they do not relinquish that right when they send their children off to school.” DeSantis argued that New York has twice the budget of Florida with 3 million fewer people, worse infrastructure, higher debt, and worse educational results. He talked about rebuilding a bridge to Pine Island in three days after the latest hurricane, and offered to sell oceanfront real estate in Arizona to anyone who thinks Hochul could do the same thing in New York. (The Second Avenue subway line began opening stops in 2017, but is still a decade from completion; it was first proposed in 1920).

But there were also noticeable contrasts in style. Zeldin is a little bit nebbishy, and comfortable with self-deprecating humor. He talked about the importance of humility. He noted that he is the fourth-ranking person in his own household and would stay that way if elected. He contrasted this with Hochul calling herself the “mother” of the state, and calling voters her “apostles.” “I promise you, if elected governor, at no point will I refer to myself as the father of New York’s 62 counties.” He also offered a humorous riff on how he wasn’t sure he’d have the courage to show up today after actor Mark Ruffalo made a video attacking him. “And then Leonardo diCaprio retweeted it! I was crushed!”

DeSantis doesn’t do self-deprecating; he radiates intensity and swagger. In fact, his entire presentation on the stump is a testament to the power of narrative. DeSantis isn’t naturally charming or funny. Crowds warm to him because he offers them a story of accomplishment and victory, backed by specific fights he had and won, specific things he did. He rarely rails with futility against unstoppable forces; like Giuliani 30 years ago, his message is this can be done, I did this, I fought and won, come with me if you want to win. For the Republican voters of Long Island, desperate to be heard, this is a powerful message. I was at the Mets-Padres game when Jacob deGrom took the mound, the wounded ace at home with the team down to an elimination game, and the mood tonight was much the same combination of desperate determination. Langworthy set the stakes: “This is our last stand in the State of New York.” If DeSantis runs nationally, he won’t be selling the sizzle, he’ll be selling the steak to people who are hungry for it.

In what might in some quarters be a nod to the next presidential race, DeSantis emphasized in his endorsement of Zeldin how nice it is to vote for somebody who is not just a lesser evil:


He stuck the landing, too:


 
Title: God is for Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 08, 2022, 06:31:14 AM
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Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: DougMacG on November 10, 2022, 03:33:32 AM
Here's how you avoid runoffs and cheating, DeSantis won by more than a million and a half votes, in a state that was evenly divided in 2000 and in his first Governor election in 2018. Worthy opponent, Crist is a former Gov of Florida.

Governor · Florida
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Ron DeSantis wins · 99% reporting ·Associated Press

Ron DeSantis
Republican Party
59.4%
4,609,110

Charlie Crist
Democratic Party
40%
3,102,136
Title: NRO: The DeSantis Difference
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 11, 2022, 04:47:57 PM
The DeSantis Difference

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis speaks at a press conference in Daytona Beach, Fla., November 22, 2021.(Paul Hennessy/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images)
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November 11, 2022 6:30 AM
His approach to the Covid crisis was a triumph of conservative statesmanship.
In the 2022 midterms, Florida was another country entirely. While Republicans underperformed in much of the nation, Ron DeSantis and Marco Rubio posted absolutely enormous wins against their Democratic opponents. DeSantis’s win — much larger than the generous one expected of him — immediately changed the conversation about 2024. His own supporters began chanting, hilariously, “Two More Years” at his victory party. GOP megadonors began declaring their interest in him. And former president Donald Trump began raging and sulking about him.

When was it that DeSantis’s brand diverged so much from Donald Trump’s? It is being presently forgotten. But if you had predicted four years ago that Republicans closely associated with Donald Trump’s brand were getting massacred in the 2022 elections, you would have assumed DeSantis was the first goner, having only squeaked by in 2018, and having done those ads that seemed to have no other purpose than to impress the Donald himself.

Instead DeSantis triumphed with a 20-point win.

I have cast about among friends and colleagues for their answer to why. They cited his competent governance. The fact that he became the locus of hostile media attention for a long time, but thrived. That he was organized and tactically sound. He had an unerring sense of where the electorate was, and how much room for maneuver he had. For instance, he occupies the governor’s mansion of the most pro-choice red state. And so his position on abortion, restricting it only after 15 weeks’ gestation, was more liberal than the policies pursued by Ohio or Texas. But on the issues related to transgenderism and children, he could pursue aggressive policies, knowing that he had the backing of 70 to 80 percent of the electorate. One friend said Trump was all talk, but DeSantis was a culture warrior with substance.

These are all important factors. But the truth is simpler and more profound. DeSantis understood his job.

In the speech he delivered to the National Conservatism Conference in September, he bragged about his state’s success due to his approach on Covid. Florida had prioritized keeping schools open. And businesses open, too. The results in test scores, economic recovery, and in-migration told a very obvious story. At the conference and in many speeches since, these are all huge applause lines.

While DeSantis says that he championed freedom, in Florida he did so in a way that wasn’t strictly ideological. In fact, he earned objections from libertarians and some conservatives when he banned businesses from instituting vaccine passports for entry and from instituting vaccine mandates for employees. But he explained that his job as a statesman (and yes, he used that word) was not to listen only to the experts in narrow fields, but to “harmonize” the diverse interests of the state he governs.

The approach DeSantis took had the insight that the new Covid-era restrictions were rapidly altering social relations between enterprises and customers, and between employers and employees — for the worse. Only where the data were extremely compelling — as in the need to protect the people in nursing homes — would the state take drastic action that disrupted normal life.

If you can describe the ideology of DeSantis’s approach, it was one of conserving the social fabric. You were free to be as careful as you wanted to be, but you weren’t free to change the social order. In Florida, you could have business meetings unmasked. In Florida, you weren’t going to be subjected to a permanent, or even temporary, biomedical security state that threatened your job. Just as before, you could expect your private medical decisions to remain your business, and not that of your human-resources department. Your kids could go to school, and socialize, and see their speech therapist unmasked. You could be who you are in Florida: a businessman, a kid on a softball team, a hypochondriac, or a vax-skeptic.

DeSantis’s approach seemed outrageous to some: He was defying expert advice. But it had a small-l libertarian humility to it, an understanding that a crisis will pass. This form of leadership had the effect of tempering the moral manias that afflicted so many institutions and cities across the country. That’s what attracted so many hundreds of thousands of people to Florida the past two and half years. And Florida’s success likely inspired other states to give up on these alterations to the social order earlier than they otherwise would have.

DeSantis is going to get absolutely Olympian praise on the right in the coming weeks and months, for all sorts of reasons. Some of them true, some of them mercenary, some of them just because he’s the best option not named Donald J. Trump. But his approach to the Covid crisis was a triumph of conservative statesmanship. Which is to say, it was anti-ideological, and by being so, it served well the diverse, strange, and prosperous society that we call Florida.
Title: Fed judge blocks DeSantis' WOKE ACT
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 19, 2022, 03:31:24 PM

Judge Blocks Florida’s Anti-Woke Law At Colleges And Universities
Ron DeSantis Holds Election Night Event In Tampa
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A federal judge on Thursday blocked Florida’s “Stop W.O.K.E. Act,” signed by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, from being enforced at colleges and universities.

U.S. District Judge Mark Walker ruled Thursday that the legislation, which prohibits faculty from teaching race in a way that might induce “guilt, anguish or other psychological distress,” cannot be enforced at higher education institutions calling it “positively dystopian.” The ruling comes after two lawsuits by a Florida A&M professor and University of South Florida student and professor who argued the act was unconstitutional. (RELATED: Gov. DeSantis Signs ‘Parental Rights’ Bill Into Law)

“Striking at the heart of ‘open-mindedness and critical inquiry,’ the State of Florida has taken over the ‘marketplace of ideas’ to suppress disfavored viewpoints and limit where professors may shine their light on eight specific ideas,” Walker wrote. “And Defendants’ argument permits zero restraint on the State of Florida’s power to expand its limitation on viewpoints to any idea it chooses.”

Under the law, professors who teach race in a way that induces guilt or blame in the classroom could be fired or penalized. Professors accused of violating the law would be reviewed by faculty members and could be fired if given an “unsatisfactory review”

DeSantis signed the “Stop W.O.K.E Act” into law in April, and it became effective on July 1. Walker blocked another aspect of the law in August, which prohibited businesses from implementing race-related training programs.

“The Stop W.O.K.E. Act protects the open exchange of ideas by prohibiting teachers or employers who hold agency over others from forcing discriminatory concepts on students as part of classroom instruction or on employees as a condition of maintaining employment,” DeSantis’ office said in a statement to the Daily Caller News Foundation. “An ‘open-minded and critical’ environment necessitates that one is free from discrimination. We intend to appeal.”

Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a campaign rally at the Cheyenne Saloon on November 7, 2022 in Orlando, Florida. DeSantis faces former Democratic Gov. Charlie Crist in tomorrow's general election. (Photo by Octavio Jones/Getty Images)
Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a campaign rally at the Cheyenne Saloon on November 7, 2022 in Orlando, Florida. DeSantis faces former Democratic Gov. Charlie Crist in tomorrow’s general election. (Photo by Octavio Jones/Getty Images)

In his opinion, Walker quoted “1984” by George Orwell.

“‘It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen,’ and the powers in charge of Florida’s public university system have declared the State has unfettered authority to muzzle its professors in the name of ‘freedom,’” Walker wrote
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 22, 2022, 05:41:30 AM
Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at the Republican Jewish Coalition Annual Leadership Meeting in Las Vegas, Nev., on Nov. 19, 2022. (Wade Vandervort/AFP via Getty Images)
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Florida Offers ‘Blueprint for Success’: DeSantis Says at Major GOP Gathering in Las Vegas
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a potential presidential hopeful in 2024, said during the weekend that the midterm results show that the Sunshine State presents a “blueprint for success” for the Republican Party looking forward.

“What the election results in Florida show is that Florida really has a blueprint for success,” DeSantis told the influential crowd of Republican leaders, donors, and activists at the annual leadership meeting of the Republican Jewish Coalition on Nov. 19.

“What we’ve shown in Florida is you can stand up for truth, you can stand on principle, you can fight the woke elite, and you can win,” DeSantis said during his 25-minute speech, which generates the most applause including multiple standing ovations.

Beginning a day earlier, the Las Vegas gathering was seen as the first major GOP cattle call in the next White House race, featuring about 10 possible presidential candidates in the 2024 GOP nomination race, such as former President Donald Trump, former Vice President Mike Pence, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley, and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, most of whom addressed in person.

Despite securing one of the biggest wins in the midterm elections, rising GOP star DeSantis declined to address a 2024 speculation. Trump has recently taken to calling the governor “Ron DeSanctimonious,” and warned that DeSantis running in 2024 would be “a mistake.”

The Florida governor, who won the reelection with a double-digit lead over his Democrat rival, began his Saturday night speech by underscoring the fresh landslide victory and the Republican leadership across his state.

“We added four new Republican congressmen to the U.S. House of Representatives from the state of Florida,” DeSantis said after taking the stage. “We secured supermajorities in the Florida legislature, the most Republicans we’ve ever had in Florida history.”


“We dominated with independent voters, we secured record margins with Hispanic voters, we swept the suburbs all across the state of Florida. Our margins with rural voters were gravity-defying, we won by double digits, Miami Dade County. We won for the first time in almost 40 years, Palm Beach County.”

After taking office in 2018, DeSantis rolled out policy initiatives during his first term as a governor, such as fighting against woke indoctrination and the Disney corporation’s political activism.

“It is wrong to teach a kid that they were born in the wrong body. It is wrong to teach them that gender is a choice,” he reiterated, saying common sense is in “very short supply” nowadays.

DeSantis said a leader should never “stick your finger in the wind and try to contort yourself to wherever public opinion may be trending on one given moment,” but set out a vision, execute it, and deliver concrete results.

“And when you do that, the people respond,” the governor continued. “When you show people you’re willing to fight for them, they will walk over broken glass barefoot to come vote for you and that’s exactly what they did to me.”

“What we’ve shown is people respond to strong leadership,” he spotlighted.

After riding the endorsement of then-President Trump in the contested 2018 gubernatorial race, DeSantis barely won what was known as a swing state for many years.

More conservatives rallied behind DeSantis in the wake of the November midterms, as Republicans underperform expectations across the country outside of several states like Florida and New York. Some Republicans blame Trump, though a number of others noted he was not on the ballot. Some said DeSantis’s big win portended a strong result if he runs in 2024.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on November 22, 2022, 08:39:40 AM
"Some Republicans blame Trump, though a number of others noted he was not on the ballot. "

I dunno
every Dem in the country put Trump front and center 24/7
so his name was not on the ballot in writing but it was on the minds to some extent with every voter

so to say trump was not an issue is ridiculous


Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: DougMacG on November 22, 2022, 10:05:12 AM
"to say trump was not an issue is ridiculous"

   
Yes, Trump was on the ballot.  Every exit poll confirms he was a major motivator for opposition.  The test of it, had Republicans swept with his candidates, Oz, Masters, Bolduc, Walker, etc.  who would have taken credit?
Title: Musk for Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 26, 2022, 03:16:07 PM
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/elon-musk-says-hed-back-desantis-in-2024-presidential-race/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=breaking&utm_campaign=newstrack&utm_term=29812066