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Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 01, 2021, 07:19:25 AM
Gov. DeSantis had a whole hour on Mark Levine last night.  Added quite a bit to the already strong impression I had of him.

Apparently he came in second to Trump in the CPAC straw poll.

So, starting this thread on him.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on March 01, 2021, 08:54:53 AM
and why is Fried , another member of the temple of the DNC

who is somehow head of department of Agriculture
doing making a stink about corona vaccines?

she sends it up to rabid racist partisan Clyburn
who is some sore of vaccine "czar"

and then to all the DNC media outlets to bash DeSantis the day after CPAC

DNC - jornolister
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis will be the nominee
Post by: DougMacG on March 08, 2021, 06:42:11 AM
I like Kristi Noem but the Governor of a big swing state has faced greater testing than a small state Governor.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 14, 2021, 06:25:35 AM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis: Don't trust the elites
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 19, 2021, 02:29:32 PM
Ron DeSantis on the Pandemic Year: Don’t Trust the Elites
Influential people in public health, government and the media failed to rise to the moment

Spring-break crowds on the beach in Ft. Lauderdale last Sunday.
By Ron DeSantis
March 18, 2021 2:55 pm ET

The Covid-19 pandemic represented a test of elites in the U.S., from public-health experts to the corporate media. The results have been disappointing. Policy makers who bucked the elites and challenged the narrative have been proven right to do so.

To begin with, highly publicized epidemiological models were as consequential as they were wrong. The model produced by Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London—which forecast millions of Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. without mitigation efforts—sparked panic among public-health elites and served as the pretext for lockdowns throughout the U.S. and Great Britain. The lockdowns failed to stop the virus but did a great deal of societal damage along the way—damage that a more targeted approach, seeking to reduce total harms, would have been able to avoid (and did, in places like Sweden and Florida).

Similarly, models predicting massive shortages of hospital beds helped to precipitate the disastrous policy—enacted by states like New York, New Jersey and Michigan—to send contagious, Covid-positive hospital patients back to nursing homes. States like Florida that rejected the models and adopted policies to protect nursing-home residents had comparatively lower nursing-home mortality rates as a result.

The reliance on faulty models was matched by poor public messaging. Elites sent conflicting messages about the efficacy of cloth masks, the uniformity of risk across age brackets, the danger of outdoor transmission and the practical benefit of taking a Covid vaccine.

Perhaps most damaging to public trust was the public-health campaign urging “15 Days to Slow the Spread.” This short-term mitigation, we were told, was necessary to buy time to prepare hospitals for any patient surges. But that reasonable aim was soon transformed into a lockdown-until-eradication approach that left no end in sight for most Americans. Going from “save the hospitals” to “zero Covid” represents one of the greatest instances in history of moving the goal post.

Lockdowns proved a huge boon to America’s corporate media, which primed its captive audience with fear and partisanship. Everything the corporate press did regarding Covid coverage was inseparable from its yearslong obsession with attacking Donald Trump. Weaponizing Covid in an election year superseded any obligation to present the facts with needed context and perspective.

Florida cut against the grain of elite opinion and bucked the media narrative.
While it was abundantly clear by May that schools represented low-risk environments for the spread of Covid and that the consequences of prolonged school closures were potentially catastrophic, the corporate media did its best to obscure the data and stoke fear and panic among parents and teachers. After all, the media had to take the position opposite Donald Trump.

Had the media presented the data on schools in a rational fashion with proper context and perspective, it is quite possible that the extended school closures we’ve seen in lockdown states would have been untenable and millions of students would be in markedly better shape academically and socially.

For months we were told to “trust the experts,” but far too often over the past year those who were most influential in our society—in public health, government and media—proved incapable of rising to the moment.

Florida cut against the grain of elite opinion and bucked the media narrative. The result is open schools, comparatively low unemployment and per capita Covid mortality below the national average. We cannot simply undo the harm caused by flawed policies advocated by our elites, but we can resolve that we never let this happen to our country again.

—Mr. DeSantis is the governor of Florida.
Title: DeSantis against vaccine passports
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 30, 2021, 03:33:30 AM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 31, 2021, 07:04:39 AM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 05, 2021, 08:57:57 AM
DeSantis was quite impressive on Mark Levin this week.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: DougMacG on April 05, 2021, 09:50:51 AM
DeSantis was quite impressive on Mark Levin this week.

Good.  He might be our last best hope.
From media thread, DeSantis on 60 Minutes
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on April 05, 2021, 10:18:06 AM
he must be doing something right

the best indicator is the LEFT is full on attacking him all over the media cabal

notice the silence on CUOMO

remember the leader of NY State Dem controlled legislator stated if there is one more allegation
against Mario's boy they will move to impeach him

up to to 7 and counting I think -

of course we hear silence
"let the investigation "

while Cuomo has his mob lawyers out in fall force behind the scenes playing every tactic they can get away with  - just next to the lines without touching

of course if they do touch - oops sorry
no malicious intent etc blah blah blah

Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: G M on April 05, 2021, 06:30:29 PM
For winning a national election? Really?

DeSantis was quite impressive on Mark Levin this week.

Good.  He might be our last best hope.
From media thread, DeSantis on 60 Minutes
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 06, 2021, 06:30:11 AM
I'm seeing him quite a bit on FOX.  Consistently excellent.  To my ear, he makes the right points in ways that will appeal to moderates; he has proven executive chops; proven ability to back the prog media up--  a lot to like hear.

Wonder what kind of cases he handled when he was a JAG?
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 08, 2021, 05:27:39 AM
One of the things we admired most about Trump was his balls in taking on the Pravdas.

Looks like DeSantis has the same balls and one fukk of a lot more finesse.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on April 08, 2021, 06:31:49 AM
I've noticed other Republicans now coming out with fighting words
 and actions

like McConnell ,  Governor Kemp etc , even never Trumpist National Reviewers seem to be waking up.

Finally they see the writing on the wall

There is no  compromise

it is a fight to the finish

only the DC sewer rats like Krystal STeele etc pretend Republicans
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: DougMacG on April 08, 2021, 12:23:14 PM
Crafty wrote: 
"One of the things we admired most about Trump was his balls in taking on the Pravdas.
Looks like DeSantis has the same balls and one fukk of a lot more finesse."

Thumbs up on that.

For decades we pondered who will be the next Reagan?  Never found one.  No one asks who will be the next Trump, but the next leader must have two of his traits, ability to advance the agenda and be someone who can stand up to all these forces stacked against us.  60 Minutes is typical of the forces against us, perceived as professional mainstream, but horribly biased and ruthlessly malicious. 

No one can stand up to the journalistic standards of 60 Minutes...  Whooops, what happened to Super-anchorman Dan Rather and CBS News producer Mary Mapes?  Fired for getting caught. 

"60 Minutes is Toast"  - Powerline, Sept 9, 2004.
"Fake but Accurate."   - NY times, Sept 9, 2004
[More on the Media thread.]
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 03, 2021, 07:17:46 PM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 07, 2021, 09:01:06 AM
I'm liking him even more:
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis signs bill to protect against Big Tech censorship
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 25, 2021, 04:47:30 AM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis shows chops against pravda cheap shot
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 26, 2021, 12:34:13 PM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis takes on the Chi Coms
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 08, 2021, 06:00:10 AM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis: FL to send officers to TX and AZ
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 17, 2021, 07:11:51 AM

Title: President DeSantis
Post by: DougMacG on June 17, 2021, 07:33:42 AM
I just wanted to see how it sounds.
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis sends help to border states
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 19, 2021, 02:46:01 PM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on June 20, 2021, 06:22:05 AM
"President DeSantis"

"I just wanted to see how it sounds"

Well he could pull the Italian vote away from Cuomo.


Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 20, 2021, 08:09:14 AM
Didn't Mayor DiBlasio take down the Columbus Circle statute of Columbus down?
Title: I think it is still there - for now
Post by: ccp on June 20, 2021, 08:57:43 AM
no mention of it under wikipedia

speaking of statues :

Title: straw poll : DeSantis tops Trump
Post by: ccp on June 21, 2021, 04:58:35 AM
Title: Re: straw poll : DeSantis tops Trump
Post by: DougMacG on June 21, 2021, 10:32:49 AM

I hope that what he has going now is lasting.
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis signs bill requiring students to learn the evils of communism
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 23, 2021, 12:09:34 PM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 23, 2021, 09:29:54 PM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis signs bill requiring students to learn the evils of communism
Post by: G M on June 24, 2021, 11:04:05 AM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 28, 2021, 07:35:29 AM
“Ronald Dion DeSantis was born on September 14, 1978, in Jacksonville, Florida, the son of Karen (née Rogers) and Ronald DeSantis.[1] He is of Italian descent.[2] His family moved to Orlando, Florida, before relocating to Dunedin, Florida, when he was six years old.[3] In 1991, he was a member of the Little League team from Dunedin National that made it to the Little League World Series in Williamsport, Pennsylvania.[4][5]

After graduating from Dunedin High School in 1997, DeSantis attended Yale University. He was captain of Yale's varsity baseball team and joined the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity.[5][6] On the Yale baseball team, DeSantis was an outfielder; as a senior in 2001, he had the team's best batting average at .336.[7][8][9][10]

He graduated from Yale in 2001 with a B.A. magna cum laude in history.[11] He then spent a year as a history teacher at the Darlington School.[12] DeSantis then attended Harvard Law School, graduating in 2005 with a Juris Doctor cum laude.[13][14]

DeSantis received his Reserve Naval officer's commission and assignment to the Judge Advocate General's Corps (JAG) in 2004 at the U.S. Naval Reserve Center in Dallas, Texas, while still a student at Harvard Law School. He completed Naval Justice School in 2005. Later that year, he received orders to the JAG Trial Service Office Command South East at Naval Station Mayport, Florida, as a prosecutor. In 2006, he was promoted from lieutenant, junior grade to lieutenant. He worked for the commander of Joint Task Force-Guantanamo (JTF-GTMO), working directly with detainees at the Guantanamo Bay Joint Detention Facility.[15][16][17]

In 2007, DeSantis reported to the Naval Special Warfare Command Group in Coronado, California, where he was assigned to SEAL Team One and deployed to Iraq[18] with the troop surge as the Legal Advisor to the SEAL Commander, Special Operations Task Force-West in Fallujah.[15][16][17]
DeSantis returned to the U.S. in April 2008, at which time he was reassigned to the Naval Region Southeast Legal Service. The U.S. Department of Justice appointed him to serve as an Assistant U.S. Attorney[18] at the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Middle District of Florida. DeSantis was assigned as a trial defense counsel until his honorable discharge from active duty in February 2010. He concurrently accepted a reserve commission as a lieutenant in the Judge Advocate General's Corps of the US Navy Reserve.[19] He was awarded the Bronze Star Medal, the Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal, the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal and the Iraq Campaign Medal.[15][16][17” #DeSantis #leadership
Title: Well played
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 04, 2021, 09:01:29 AM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on July 18, 2021, 08:30:46 AM
Title: Crist creeping up on DeSantis uggh!!!!
Post by: ccp on August 04, 2021, 07:43:55 AM

amazing how creeps like crist / Beto / kasich etc and others will just not leave us alone

Title: Re: Crist creeping up on DeSantis uggh!!!!
Post by: DougMacG on August 04, 2021, 09:14:02 AM

amazing how creeps like crist / Beto / kasich etc and others will just not leave us alone

And political polling, one year out, is so accurate.

Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis hits Magoo over the head with a 2x4
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 04, 2021, 02:41:38 PM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis vs. Magoo
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 06, 2021, 05:15:21 PM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis calls for end of resettling illegals in Florida
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 30, 2021, 04:40:06 PM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis calls for end of resettling illegals in Florida
Post by: G M on August 31, 2021, 08:46:36 AM
Governors aren't allowed to protect their citizens, that's racist!

Besides, how are we going to create more Covid cases if he is allowed to do that?
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 25, 2021, 01:41:48 AM
Modify message
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis on Australia lockdown
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 28, 2021, 02:46:00 PM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis FL agencies to enforce immigration laws
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 29, 2021, 12:30:56 PM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 20, 2021, 04:43:24 PM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 21, 2021, 08:03:22 PM
Title: Quality trolling from Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 18, 2021, 12:51:41 PM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis begins to spread his foreign policy wings
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 25, 2021, 01:50:33 PM

Title: Let's see what Gov. Ron DeSantis does with this
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 03, 2021, 02:57:22 AM
Title: This is how Gov. Ron DeSantis becomes a president
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 11, 2021, 04:16:37 PM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 14, 2021, 05:33:16 AM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis: Let's send illegals to Delaware and Martha's Vineyard
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 15, 2021, 02:12:04 AM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis: Let's send illegals to Delaware and Martha's Vineyard
Post by: DougMacG on December 15, 2021, 06:39:09 AM
Perfect.  And keep sending them until the rich liberals tell us how many is too many, and why.  Overrunning resources, they don't care.  MS13 gangs, they don't care.  In their front and back yard and on their streets and sidewalks and half of them voting Republican, now they care. They might demand the border be closed and put a work requirement on welfare.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 19, 2021, 04:05:57 PM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis moves to pull FL pension funds out of China
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 22, 2021, 03:51:30 AM
DeSantis aims to pull all state pension funds out of China

Investors accused of ties


Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and some of his administration’s top officials moved Monday to take control of the state’s huge pension portfolio from private asset managers that invest heavily in communist China.

At a meeting of the State Board of Administration, Florida Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Patronis and Attorney General Ashley Moody joined Mr. DeSantis, a Republican, in a motion to “revoke all proxy voting authority that has been given to outside fund managers.”

The state officials said they need to ensure that fund managers “act solely in the financial interest of the state’s funds.”

The measure also orders a survey of the Florida Retirement System’s investments “to determine how many assets the state has in Chinese companies.”

The state took action after Consumers’ Research, a conservative watchdog group, launched a campaign accusing BlackRock, the world’s largest investment company by assets under management, of close and growing ties with Beijing.

The bond between BlackRock CEO Larry Fink

and China’s communist leaders also has drawn criticism from left-wing billionaire George Soros.

In addition to investing clients’ money in Chinese companies, BlackRock was awarded a contract to sell mutual funds in China. The venture has raked in some $1 billion, according to published reports.

“I would like the SBA to survey the investments that are currently being done,” Mr. DeSantis said in a statement. “When the Legislature comes back, they can make statutory changes to say that the Communist Party of China is not a vehicle that we want to be entangled with. I think that that would be something that would be very, very prudent.”

Figures for BlackRock’s investments in China are difficult to pinpoint, but they represent a small portion of the more than $9.6 trillion in assets that the firm manages.

BlackRock’s China A Opportunities Fund, which has returned more than 32% since its 2018 inception, has more than $47.4 million, according to its most recent report.

“BlackRock has been using their proxy votes to hamper American companies, leading to higher burdens on Americans when we can least afford it,” Consumers’ Research Executive Director Will Hild said. “They have used American investment dollars to cozy up to the Chinese Communist Party in a betrayal of our nation that puts American pension dollars at risk.”

BlackRock declined a request for comment.

Although Mr. Fink is an ardent supporter of green initiatives and BlackRock has tried to force American companies to follow an environmental agenda, China is the world’s biggest producer of greenhouse gases.

China also has been accused of numerous human rights violations, including forcing Muslimminority Uyghurs into labor camps, stifling Hong Kong’s traditional democracy, and silencing and coercing tennis star Peng Shuai over rape charges against a high government official.

National security officials have raised concerns about investments in Chinese companies that operate with the permission of the communist leadership and, in some cases, work closely with the military.

Published reports show Black-Rock has invested in at least two Chinese companies, iFlytek and Hikvision, that have been added to the U.S. “entity list” as national security and foreign policy threats.

It is not illegal to invest in such companies, although they are forbidden from trading with U.S. corporations.

Florida’s announcement is the latest in a string of state initiatives to signal that companies should focus on business and profits for shareholders rather than a political agenda.

Last month, West Virginia Treasurer Riley Moore led a coalition of 15 states that threatened to pull funds if bankers tried to stifle oil and gas companies to appease environmentalists.

Mr. Moore called the warning a “pushback against woke capitalism.”

Some top Florida officials supported Mr. DeSantis’ concern Monday.

“As Americans got our cheap goods, the Chinese government wasn’t playing by the rules when it came to intellectual property or trade,” Mr. Patronis said.

“I take my fiduciary responsibilities seriously, and I think the SBA needs to start asking harder questions when it comes to whether investing any more in China is a good idea. It seems limiting our exposure to China is not only good for our country, but it is the financially prudent thing to do for our state,” he said.

The Securities and Exchange Commission and other federal agencies have cautioned that Chinese investments can be subject to the whims of communist leaders and are outside the influence of U.S. or other regulators.

In September, the SEC warned of risks associated with variable interest entities, which are listed on U.S. stock markets but are essentially shell companies with no control over the Chinese entities.
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis and Constitutional Carry
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 24, 2021, 06:27:01 PM
Title: DeSantis leads in decoupling from China
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 29, 2021, 02:36:43 AM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis leads the way on illegals
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 01, 2022, 05:59:26 PM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 03, 2022, 07:12:08 PM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis on Jan. 6
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 07, 2022, 07:44:39 AM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis proposes special police agency to monitor elections
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 18, 2022, 10:16:20 AM
Sounds great to me!!!

Florida governor proposes special police agency to monitor elections
No state has such a force, which Gov. Ron DeSantis wants empowered to arrest voters and others who allegedly violate election laws
DeSantis proposes special police agency to monitor elections
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) during his State of the State address on Jan. 11 said he would establish a special “election integrity unit” to monitor elections. (The Florida Channel)
By Lori Rozsa and Beth Reinhard
Today at 6:30 a.m. EST

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — A plan by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis would establish a special police force to oversee state elections — the first of its kind in the nation — and while his fellow Republicans have reacted tepidly, voting rights advocates fear that it will become law and be used to intimidate voters.

The proposed Office of Election Crimes and Security would be part of the Department of State, which answers to the governor. DeSantis is asking the GOP-controlled legislature to allocate nearly $6 million to hire 52 people to “investigate, detect, apprehend, and arrest anyone for an alleged violation” of election laws. They would be stationed at unspecified “field offices throughout the state” and act on tips from “government officials or any other person.”

DeSantis highlighted his plan as legislators opened their annual 60-day session last week.

“To ensure that elections are conducted in accordance with the rule of law, I propose an election integrity unit whose sole focus will be the enforcement of Florida’s election laws,” he said during his State of the State address. “This will facilitate the faithful enforcement of election laws and will provide Floridians with the confidence that their vote will matter.”

Voting rights experts say that no state has such an agency, one dedicated to patrolling elections and empowered to arrest suspected violators. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) announced the formation of a “2021 Texas Election Integrity Unit” in October, but that office is more limited in scope, has fewer than 10 employees and isn’t under the governor’s authority.

“There’s a reason that there’s no office of this size with this kind of unlimited investigative authority in any other state in the country, and it’s because election crimes and voter fraud are just not a problem of that magnitude,” said Jonathan Diaz, a voting rights lawyer at the nonprofit Campaign Legal Center. “My number one concern is that this is going to be used as a tool to harass or intimidate civic-engagement organizations and voters.”

Florida’s congressional Democrats expressed similar worries when they asked the U.S. Justice Department to investigate “a disturbing rise in partisan efforts at voter suppression” in the state. They took aim specifically at DeSantis’s call for election police.

“Harmful proposals to create new partisan bodies to oversee our voting process are exactly the kind of action that demand oversight as we work to ensure that our voting process is unquestionably trustworthy,” they wrote Thursday in a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland.

Florida voters line up outside the Hialeah John F. Kennedy Library on Nov. 3, 2020 to cast their ballots in the general election. (Michael Robinson Chavez/The Washington Post)
Unlike many past elections, the 2020 general election in Florida had few problems. The governor touted it as “the gold standard.”

“The way Florida did it, I think, inspired confidence,” DeSantis said on Nov. 4, 2020, hours after the results showed that President Donald Trump had won the state by more than three percentage points. “I think that’s how elections should be run.”

But in the wake of Trump’s ultimate defeat, as he and his supporters spread falsehoods about election fraud nationwide and demanded audits in numerous states, many Republicans in Florida pressed DeSantis to do the same.

Though he resisted an audit, DeSantis signed a controversial bill last year curtailing some voting options that had helped to expand participation. The law — which is being challenged in court, with a trial set to begin Jan. 30 — limits the use of ballot drop boxes, adds requirements to request mail ballots, and bans groups or individuals from gathering absentee ballots on other voters’ behalf.

No legislators have signed on to sponsor DeSantis’s new proposal. House Speaker Chris Sprowls (R) said DeSantis is concerned that existing law enforcement agencies don’t have the expertise necessary to find and prosecute election crimes. Yet he hasn’t embraced the governor’s approach. “We’re going to look at it, we’ll evaluate it and see what happens,” Sprowls said last week.

As with all committees in the Capitol in Tallahassee, Republicans are in the majority on the House Public Integrity & Elections Committee. Neither the committee chairman nor vice chairman returned calls for comment. The panel has not scheduled a hearing on the DeSantis proposal.

Last month, Secretary of State Laurel Lee spoke to a meeting of the Florida Supervisors of Elections association to explain the governor’s plan. Some of the officials who run elections in each of Florida’s 67 counties were alarmed by what they heard. They fear overreach from the executive branch, especially in a year when DeSantis is running for reelection.

Broward County Supervisor of Elections Joe Scott said he’s concerned that the new unit would be “applied in a very partisan way” and certain that his heavily Democratic county would be a target.

“It seems as if this is going to focus on a lot of grass-roots organizations that are out there trying to get people registered to vote, as well as people out there doing petition drives,” Scott said. “I think this is going to lead to people being intimidated if they’re civically involved. I don’t want people to be scared away from doing those kinds of things.”

An election worker sorts vote-by-mail ballots at the Miami-Dade County Board of Elections in Doral, Fla., ahead of the 2020 general election. Months later, the legislature passed measures making it harder for residents to vote by mail. (Lynne Sladky/AP)
State Rep. Geraldine Thompson, the ranking Democrat on the House Public Integrity & Elections Committee, thinks the new agency would be a waste of money. In addition to its funding, DeSantis wants $1.1 million for eight new positions in other departments — to address what he describes as a growing caseload of election crimes. The Department of State received 262 election-fraud complaint forms in 2020 and referred 75 to law enforcement or prosecutors. About 11 million Floridians cast ballots for president that November.

“The governor and other officials in Florida said the 2020 election was the most secure and efficiently run election that we ever had,” Thompson said. “So I see absolutely no reason for this elections commission to be established, particularly at the cost that he is proposing.”

Voter fraud is rare, and critics note that state attorneys and local police are already in place to investigate alleged election crimes. The state’s 67 elections supervisors are also trained to look for fraud.

“The bottom line is there is no widespread election fraud in Florida,” said Hillsborough State Attorney Andrew Warren, a Democrat. “It’s a microscopic amount. Elections today are the most secure that they have ever been. This is not a serious policy proposal. This is a door prize for a QAnon pep rally.”

Hans von Spakovsky, an election law expert at the conservative Heritage Foundation, supports Desantis’s plan and hopes it becomes a “model” for other states. Investigating election fraud requires special training and commitment that are lacking in many law enforcement agencies, he said. The foundation’s database of election fraud cases nationwide shows only three convictions in Florida in the last three years.

Support for the governor’s proposal should be bipartisan, according to DeSantis press secretary Christina Pushaw.

“Ensuring that every legal vote counts, as Governor DeSantis strives to do, is the opposite of ‘voter suppression,’ ” Pushaw said via email. “We do not understand why any politician, Democrat or Republican, would be opposed to allocating sufficient resources to ensure our election laws are enforced.”

Cecile Scoon, a lawyer who is president of the League of Women Voters Florida, called an elections security force controlled by a governor an alarming concept.

“So to have your own elections SWAT team, that would be under the direction of the secretary of state, who is under the direction of the governor, is not a comfortable feeling,” Scoon said. “Having governmental officials like this, traveling about overlooking elections just to see if there’s something going on, is very chilling, very scary and very reminiscent of past governmental interference that was directed to Black voters.”
Title: Roger Stone Trump surrogate
Post by: ccp on January 18, 2022, 11:15:12 AM

"DeSantis is not honest" [unlike Donald Trump -  :roll:]
Title: Re: Roger Stone Trump surrogate
Post by: G M on January 18, 2022, 11:19:31 AM

"DeSantis is not honest" [unlike Donald Trump -  :roll:]

After all this, don't be surprised if DeSantis ends up on the ticket.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: ccp on January 18, 2022, 11:39:32 AM
"After all this, don't be surprised if DeSantis ends up on the ticket"

the only way I would be happy with that is if DeSantis is Prez and Trump VP

(I know not possible)
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 26, 2022, 03:59:12 AM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis vs. Disney
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 12, 2022, 02:12:00 AM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 23, 2022, 02:11:11 AM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis calls out Disney
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 30, 2022, 05:32:07 AM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis bitch slaps House of Mouse
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 31, 2022, 09:13:22 AM
DeSantis puts Disney in bad light in ‘don’t say gay’ fight

Hits back with China ties, California culture


The Walt Disney Co. may have placated the left by vowing to fight Gov. Ron DeSantis’ newly signed parental bill of rights, but it turns out the Florida Republican knows how to return a punch.

Disney found itself with a public relations debacle on its hands Wednesday as Mr. DeSantis took a sledgehammer to the House of Mouse, using the spotlight to skewer its record on China and framing the skirmish as a battle between Florida and California values. “For them to say that [they], as a Californiabased company, are going to work to take those California values and overturn a law that was duly enacted and, as you said, supported by a strong majority of Floridians, they don’t run this state,” the governor said during an appearance Tuesday on Fox’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”

“They will never run this state as long as I’m governor,” he added.

Providing a timely assist was Manhattan Institute senior fellow Christopher Rufo, who released video clips from a virtual meeting of Disney executives touting the company’s decision to eliminate “gendered greetings” and advance LGBTQ narratives in its entertainment programming.

Those in the video included Vivian Ware, Disney diversity and inclusion manager, who said the company last year eliminated its “ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls” voiceover ahead of its Magic Kingdom fireworks show and replaced it with “dreamers of all ages.”

“We don’t want to just assume that because someone might be, in our interpretation, may be presenting as female that they may not want to be called princess,” Ms. Ware said. “So let’s think differently about how do we really engage with our guests in a meaningful and inclusive way that makes it magical and memorable for everyone.”

Conservatives quickly pointed out the irony of Disney squelching terms such as “boys and girls” while tarring the Florida legislation as the “don’t say gay” bill.

“It’s amazing that Disney executives were falsely accusing Ron DeSantis of ‘Don’t Say Gay’ while they were requiring theme park employees to eliminate the words ‘ladies,’ ‘gentlemen,’ ‘boys,’ and ‘girls,’” Mr. Rufo tweeted.

Disney had no comment Wednesday on the DeSantis criticism or the video clips, which helped

fuel Wednesday’s conservative backlash over the company’s opposition to House Bill 1557.

“I think this is an American realization that Disney is not the Disney of our childhood,” former Rep. Sean Duffy, Wisconsin Republican, said on Fox’s “The Faulkner Focus.” “They’ve gone very progressive, very woke, and the fact that they want to sexualize our children and our children’s childhoods for their own political agenda is incredibly disturbing.”

Democratic strategist Brad Woodhouse blamed the uproar on the Republican “outrage machine.” He said it was calculated to stoke the base in an election year.

Mr. DeSantis is leading in the polls on his November reelection bid. The first-term governor is also seen as a top prospect for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.

“First of all, the outrage here is not about Disney, and this whole issue is not about Disney,” Mr. Woodhouse said. “God bless the outrage machine. Nobody does it better. This is about Ron DeSantis and a Republican legislature that is dividing people and demeaning people simply for the purpose of dividing and demeaning people. It’s a political strategy.”

The bill bans classroom instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity in grades K-3 and “instruction that is not age appropriate for students,” the governor’s office said.

The measure also requires “school districts to adopt procedures for notifying parents if there is a change in services from the school regarding a child’s mental, emotional or physical health or well-being,” including changes adopted at school to the child’s name or gender identity.

“This [bill] is so uncontroversial, polling has shown even a majority of Florida Democrat voters support it,” said Terry Schilling, president of the American Principles Project. “However, woke leftists at Disney and elsewhere are so invested in their project to initiate young children into their sexual ideology that they cannot help but oppose this legislation.”

Whether the brouhaha ultimately will benefit Mr. DeSantis or Disney is subject to debate.

Mr. Schilling said that “DeSantis and Florida Republicans were incredibly smart to pick this battle, and as we are soon likely to see, it will not end well for Disney’s woke leaders and their Democrat proxies.”

The anti-Trump Lincoln Project disagreed. It tweeted that “Ron DeSantis is not only attacking LGBTQ+ communities and their families, he also thinks it’s a good idea to attack Florida’s biggest tourist attraction and the hard-working Floridians that work there.”

Shortly after Mr. DeSantis signed the bill Monday, Disney released a statement saying the legislation “should never have been passed and should never have been signed into law.”

“Our goal as a company is for this law to be repealed by the legislature or struck down in the courts, and we remain committed to supporting the national and state organizations working to achieve that,” Disney said. “We are dedicated to standing up for the rights and safety of LGBTQ+ members of the Disney family, as well as the LGBTQ+ community in Florida and across the country.”

Mr. DeSantis accused Disney of showing no interest in the bill while it moved through the Legislature, but reacting only under pressure from “the woke mob.”

Disney CEO Bob Chapek this month sent a memo to employees apologizing for not speaking out against the bill and promising to donate to LGBTQ groups, including the Human Rights Campaign. He also said he would “pause” political donations in Florida.

“Speaking to you, reading your messages, and meeting with you have helped me better understand how painful our silence was,” Mr. Chapek said in the memo reprinted March 11 in The Hollywood Reporter. “It is clear that this is not just an issue about a bill in Florida, but instead yet another challenge to basic human rights. You needed me to be a stronger ally in the fight for equal rights and I let you down. I am sorry.”

That wasn’t enough for some Disney employees, who staged a March 22 walkout against the bill in Burbank, California, and demanded in an open letter that the company cease donations to the bill’s legislative supporters.

“The recent statements by The Walt Disney Company (TWDC) leadership regarding the Florida legislature’s recent ‘Don’t Say Gay’ bill have utterly failed to match the magnitude of the threat to LGBTQIA+ safety represented by this legislation,” the letter said.

Mr. DeSantis has pointed out that the word “gay” does not appear in the bill.

“So they say it’s banning a word that literally isn’t even in the legislation,” he said. “It’s not even like they’re misrepresenting the way the word is used. It’s not even used in the bill. It’s a fake narrative. It’s a lie.”

Those weighing in on the fracas include prominent gay conservatives such as former Trump administration official Ric Grenell, columnist Tammy Bruce and Fox News pundit and radio host Guy Benson.

Mr. Grenell tweeted that Disney “never helped in any way” on the Trump administration’s campaign to decriminalize homosexuality in countries where the practice is still illegal. Ms. Bruce blasted “the narcissism of projecting our adult issues onto kids.”

Mr. Benson tweeted: “1) Is Disney opposed to the part that bars sexual/gender identity instruction for K-3 students? Or another part of the bill? 2) Has Disney put out a statement this forceful on the genocide in China, where they eagerly do business? Trying to pinpoint their ‘corporate values.’” Mr. DeSantis also rebooted the criticism over Disney’s 2020 live-action movie “Mulan,” parts of which were filmed in Xinjiang, where more than 1 million members of the mostly Muslim Uyghur minority are thought to have been held in internment camps.

“People asked me kind of about their posture on the bill, and I said, you know what? If we would have put in the bill that you were not allowed to have curriculum that discussed the oppression of the Uyghurs in China, Disney would have endorsed that in a second,” Mr. DeSantis said at a Tuesday press conference.

Disney Chief Financial Officer Christine McCarthy said in September 2020 that the film was shot mostly in New Zealand and that it was common practice in the film industry to credit the nations where the movie was shot, according to Deadline.

As far as Mr. DeSantis is concerned, however, Disney should be more concerned with its own human rights record.

“They’re fine lining their pockets from the [Chinese Communist Party] and all the atrocities that go on there,” he said. “But it’s those kindergartners in Florida that they really want to have transgenderism as part of their core curriculum in school.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis bitch slaps House of Mouse
Post by: DougMacG on March 31, 2022, 11:53:21 AM
Strange situation all the way around, a company like Disney being so anti-children, and a Governor fighting with such a (should be) important constituent company.

State of Minnesota used to fight with 3M (MN Mining & Manufacturing Co.) over taxes and laws.  The State said screw you and 3M kept hiring and expanding... outside of MN. Disney world is not as mobile and DeSantis has plenty of new employers coming in, faster than they can find room.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis yard sign
Post by: DougMacG on April 29, 2022, 12:52:28 PM

15 seconds.  Best ad ever.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 29, 2022, 03:34:15 PM
Title: Another fine move from Gov. Ron DeSantis
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Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 12, 2022, 05:18:04 AM
Title: NR gets a nice DeSantis article in Pravda on the Hudson
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 12, 2022, 07:47:07 PM
Republicans Need a New Leader. They’re Looking to Florida.
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Two weeks ago, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida appeared with the Fox News host Laura Ingraham for a town hall that lasted the full hour of her prime-time show. That kind of airtime tends to be reserved only for Donald Trump, but Mr. DeSantis has had a meteoric rise. He’s far and away the most popular potential 2024 presidential candidate among Republicans after Mr. Trump.

Even if you would never consider voting for him, it’s important to understand the sources of his appeal and the direction of his politics, because one way or the other — whether he ever runs for president or not — Ron DeSantis is the new Republican Party.

Governor DeSantis’s combativeness on hot-button social issues reflects Mr. Trump’s influence, but he’s gone even further and used government power as an instrument in the culture war — something Mr. Trump talked about but never really did. If any of Mr. DeSantis’s Republican admirers are hoping he will chart a path back to the pre-2016 party, they’ll probably be disappointed. Instead, the governor is a leader in a new, Trump-inflected party, but without the character flaws and baggage of the former president.

Mr. DeSantis became a Republican hero for his response to Covid-19. When many states were instituting far-reaching lockdowns and mask requirements, he took a different path. Under his leadership, Florida did what it reasonably could to protect its nursing homes, while minimizing lockdowns and other restrictions because of their economic and social downsides. When I talked to the governor in May 2020 for an article about his Covid strategy, I found him — contrary to the crude image of him as a reckless ignoramus — well versed on the research and thoughtful about the lessons from other countries. The broad parameters of his strategy — recognize there’s a balance between mitigation and its social and economic costs; keep the schools open; don’t force students to wear masks — have now become widely accepted.

Thanks to his Covid response, Mr. DeSantis attained a status that is invaluable in Republican politics — that of a lightning rod. His legend grew with every attack on him, especially the ones that were inaccurate or unfair. In April 2021, the CBS program “60 Minutes” ran a flagrantly flawed and misleading report alleging corruption in the distribution of Florida’s vaccines. The news media was also much too quick to amplify claims by a former state health department employee that Florida was hiding a huge number of Covid deaths. Clips of Mr. DeSantis in confrontations with reporters spread on social media, and he repeated his mantra of defending “freedom over Faucism.”

In general, there is no controversy that Mr. DeSantis doesn’t address. In two weeks in April alone, Mr. DeSantis signed a 15-week abortion ban, revoked the special tax status of Disney for its opposition to his “Don’t Say Gay” bill, threatened legal action against Twitter if it didn’t agree to sell to Elon Musk (Florida’s retirement pension fund is an investor) and signed a bill creating a task force to investigate election fraud. Meanwhile, his department of health issued guidance pushing back against the Biden administration’s recommendations for treating youth with gender dysphoria.

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For all the talk of how Trumpy Mr. DeSantis is, though, there is much about him that recalls the party’s pre-Trump era. He was elected to Congress as a Tea Party conservative in 2012, and he is fond of boasting that Florida’s budget is roughly half the size of New York’s even though his state is more populous. He’s proud and protective of Florida’s status as a low-tax state.

He’s been a highly committed advocate of expanding charter schools and scholarship programs to help families send their children to private schools. He’s firmly anti-regulation. We haven’t heard from him in a significant way on trade or foreign policy — two of the key issues on which Trump populists have diverged from past Republican orthodoxy. He hasn’t endorsed industrial policy, a priority of a segment of the populist right.

Indeed, any movement conservative sealed in a time capsule circa 1984 and emerging today would recognize Mr. DeSantis as a more or less standard Sunbelt Republican — a fiscal conservative wooing people and businesses to his state based on a favorable economic climate who is also anti-elitist, socially conservative and eager to reform public schools.

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None of this is new. What stands out as a true departure is Mr. DeSantis’s willingness to use government power in the culture war.

Sometimes this has involved areas, like public education, where the government has every right to set the rules. One such example is the “Don’t Say Gay” bill, more properly known as the Parental Rights in Education bill, which prohibits classroom instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity in kindergarten through third grade. Another is the “Individual Freedom” bill, which, among other things, prohibits promotion of the concept that a person “must feel guilt, anguish or other forms of psychological distress because of actions, in which the individual played no part, committed in the past by other members of the same race, color, sex or national origin.”

Other times, Florida has pursued a laudable goal in a dubious manner. Its “Big Tech” bill seeks to keep social media companies from removing political candidates and other users from their platforms, but it has serious First Amendment conflicts and has been enjoined by a federal judge.

Then there’s the fight with Disney. The revocation of its special tax status is a frankly retaliatory act that also presents free-speech issues and could prove a legal and policy morass. That said, Disney got a truly extraordinary deal from the state that allowed it, in effect, to run its own city. The company never would have been granted this arrangement 55 years ago if its executives had told the state’s leaders, “And, by the way, eventually, the Walt Disney Company will adopt cutting edge left-wing causes as its own.”

The broader point of making an example of Disney is to send a message to other corporations that there could be downsides to letting themselves be pushed by progressive employees into making their institutions weapons in the culture wars, and conclude it’s best to stick to flying planes, selling soda, and so on.

How can a limited-government Tea Party Republican like Mr. DeSantis have become comfortable with this use of government? For that matter, how is it that so many Tea Party types moved so easily toward Trumpist populism?

The key, I think, is that for many people on the right, a libertarian-oriented politics was largely a way to register opposition to the mandarins who have an outsized influence on our public life. And it turns out that populism is an even more pungent way to register this opposition. Progressive domination of elite culture has now grown to include formerly neutral institutions like corporations and sports leagues. More conservatives are beginning to believe that the only countervailing institutional force is democratic political power as reflected in governor’s mansions, state legislatures and — likely beginning next year — Congress.

“The central conservative truth is that it is culture, not politics, that determines the success of a society,” Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York once wrote. “The central liberal truth is that politics can change a culture and save it from itself.”

Given the state of play, conservatives have been learning to appreciate Moynihan’s liberal truth. If Florida’s culture-war initiatives succeed, the education establishment in the state will not mindlessly absorb the latest left-wing fad. Corporations will be warier of wading into hot-button social fights. In other words, the culture of these institutions will have changed for the better.

Even if Mr. DeSantis is willing to avail himself of this use of government power, it doesn’t mean that he’s abandoning his limited-government orientation. The libertarian Cato Institute ranks Florida the second-most free state in the country (after New Hampshire), and Mr. DeSantis has shown no inclination to change the tax, spending and regulatory policies that contribute to that status. On Covid, he has consistently emphasized the importance of individual autonomy.

Mr. DeSantis’s detractors are fond of saying that he’s worse than or more dangerous than Mr. Trump. If, by this, they mean that a President DeSantis would be more focused and disciplined in pursuing a conservative agenda than Mr. Trump was, they’re probably right. Otherwise, it is completely wrongheaded. Mr. DeSantis doesn’t have Mr. Trump’s failings. He’s sharp in his rejoinders to reporters, but never gratuitously insulting. He cares about facts and takes time to master them.

Mr. DeSantis is the hottest thing in national Republican politics right now and he is doing everything to lay the groundwork, assuming he wins re-election this year, to run for president. It’s impossible to know how that will go — he could get blocked by Mr. Trump or not live up to the hype. What’s clear is that his synthesis of the old and new, and the resonance it has had with the rank-and-file, points to the Republican future.

Rich Lowry is the editor of National Review.
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis signs bill banning picket at homes
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 17, 2022, 02:25:50 PM
DeSantis Bans ‘Picketing and Protesting’ Outside Homes in Florida
By Katabella Roberts May 17, 2022 Updated: May 17, 2022biggersmaller Print
Individuals who protest outside private residences in the state of Florida will now face a fine or prison time under a new bill signed on Monday by Gov. Ron DeSantis.

The Republican governor signed the bill, known as HB 1571, shortly after protests erupted outside the homes of Supreme Court justices in the wake of the leaked majority draft opinion indicating that the Roe v. Wade decision would be struck down.

“Sending unruly mobs to private residences, like we have seen with the angry crowds in front of the homes of Supreme Court justices, is inappropriate,” said DeSantis in a statement. “This bill will provide protection to those living in residential communities and I am glad to sign it into law.”

Specifically, the newly-signed bill will allow law enforcement officials to issue a warning to any individual found “picketing or protesting outside of a dwelling” with “specified intent.”

Individuals who do not disperse from the residence after the warning has been issued may be arrested. The bill also makes residential picketing punishable as a second-degree misdemeanor.

Second-degree misdemeanors are punishable by up to 60 days in jail and/or six months probation and a $500 fine.

The law will take effect Oct. 1.

Florida’s new law comes just a week after the Senate last week unanimously passed a bill, known as the “Supreme Court Police Parity Act,” that would allow the Supreme Court to provide 24-hour security protection to the families of Supreme Court justices.

Lawmakers voted on the move after the 67-page opinion of the Supreme Court was published on May 2 by Politico suggesting that the justices would overturn the decision that legalized abortion across the entire United States.

The leak prompted protests to break out across the country, including at the homes of Chief Justice John Roberts, and Justices Brett Kavanaugh, Samuel Alito, and Amy Coney Barrett.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), one of the lawmakers who introduced the bill last week alongside Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), said last week that the bill was necessary because both the justices and their family members had experienced threats to their physical safety following the leaked opinion.

“Threats to the physical safety of Supreme Court justices and their families are disgraceful, and attempts to intimidate and influence the independence of our judiciary cannot be tolerated,”  said Cornyn in a statement. “I’m glad the Senate quickly approved this measure to extend Supreme Court police protection to family members, and the House must take up and pass it immediately.”

The Supreme Court Police Parity Act would amend title 40 of the United States Code to grant the Supreme Court security-related authorities “equivalent to the legislative and executive branches for the immediate families of the nine justices and any other officers of the court” if the marshal determines such protection is necessary.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said last week that the Biden administration “strongly believes in the constitutional right to protest” but called on protesters to remain peaceful, noting that such demonstrations should never include violence or threats.


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Why Florida’s new protest law doesn’t fit the DeSantis narrative
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This one was teed up for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

Back in March, long before the conservative furor over protests at Supreme Court justices’ homes, Florida’s legislature passed a ban on protesting at residential homes with the “intent to harass or disturb.”

DeSantis (R) signed the bill Monday, drawing support from conservative critics of the Supreme Court protests and derision from some on the left who argued the move violated First Amendment rights.

And you could forgive the latter group for jumping on that narrative, since another bill DeSantis signed last year cracking down on protests that turn violent — after a summer of racial justice demonstrations — was halted by a judge who indeed said it violated the First Amendment. DeSantis also pushed to remove Disney’s special tax status after it opposed him on a bill limiting discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools. Those actions by DeSantis clearly raise important and valid questions about his stance toward free speech and the politicization thereof.

But in this newest instance at least, DeSantis appears to be on the side of most Democrats in Florida’s state Senate — and of established law.

The bill passed the state Senate in March by a resounding 28-to-3 margin, earning the votes of 10 Democrats. (The earlier vote in the state House was more partisan.)

Florida is hardly alone. While most states don’t have such a law, some blue-leaning states do — including Arizona, Colorado, Illinois and Minnesota, according to legal analyst Eugene Volokh. And many municipalities have similar laws. That includes Montgomery County, Md., whose law was at issue when protesters showed up at a justice’s home this month. That law bars stationary protests at a home but allows one to march in residential areas.

Much like that law, Florida’s appears carefully tailored to meet established requirements. The text of the law itself cites perhaps the most significant precedent, 1988′s Frisby v. Schultz, while applying a similar standard and even narrowing its scope.

The text of Florida’s law states:

“It is unlawful for a person to picket or protest before or about the dwelling of any person with the intent to harass or disturb that person in his or her dwelling.”
The first part aligns with the standard set in Frisby. In that case, the Supreme Court ruled that it is constitutional to ban protests at residences as long as the ban is content-neutral — i.e. it applies to all types of protests and not specific causes. The court also stated that a ban must allow people to still demonstrate in those neighborhoods, including by marching on residential streets in ways that don’t target a specific home.

Florida’s ban is actually somewhat narrower than the one in that case. The local law in Brookfield, Wis., forbade “any person to engage in picketing before or about the residence or dwelling of any individual.” Florida’s law contains the same “before or about” language — deliberately — but it also requires that such protests be intended “to harass or disturb” to be illegal. The law is also more reserved in that it requires a law enforcement officer to warn protesters to peaceably disperse before making any arrests.

Just because a law is constitutional and exists elsewhere, of course, doesn’t mean that it can’t be objected to; indeed, complying with the Constitution is a pretty low bar.

But in addition to echoing existing laws, this particular law doesn’t go nearly as far as the “anti-riot” law DeSantis made his focal point early last year. The law he signed made “willfully participating in a violent public disturbance” a crime. (It also granted civil immunity to drivers who hit protesters with their vehicles, if they said the protests made them fear for their well-being at the time.) Civil rights and free-speech groups objected, saying that it would chill participation in protests because protesters could be held liable for violence they didn’t perpetrate. A judge ruled that the law’s vagueness “consumes vast swaths of core First Amendment speech.”

DeSantis’s move to strip Disney of its special tax status rubbed even some conservatives the wrong way. Despite DeSantis’s assurance that he wasn’t retaliating against Disney for speech he didn’t like, the timing very much pointed in that direction.

If there’s a narrative building here, it’s that DeSantis isn’t exactly erring on the side of free speech — and is even targeting speech by people he doesn’t like, in rather novel ways. DeSantis is very much in line with Republicans embracing the usefulness of big government in cracking down on Big Tech, critical race theory and businesses that enact their own coronavirus restrictions.

It’s just that the law he signed Monday on residential protests is far from the best evidence of that. But in his long-running and successful quest to build his political career on owning the libs, it’s certainly useful.
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 23, 2022, 05:11:19 PM
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis: FL may restrict medicaid coverage for trans drugs/surgery
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 05, 2022, 02:16:29 AM
Title: WSJ: Desantis vs. TB Rays
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 06, 2022, 08:44:55 PM
DeSantis Harpoons the Tampa Bay Rays
Vetoing sports subsidies is good policy, but emulating woke cancelers is a mistake.
By The Editorial BoardFollow
June 6, 2022 6:56 pm ET

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has picked another fight with progressive corporate America, this time the Tampa Bay Rays baseball team. When he signed the state budget last week, Mr. DeSantis zeroed out $35 million to help build a new site for the Rays’ spring training. “I don’t support giving taxpayer dollars to professional sports stadiums, period,” he said Friday.

This is a good policy that too few states emulate, and Florida taxpayers can be grateful that their Governor has a line-item veto and is willing to use it. He vetoed $3 billion in earmarks and pet legislative projects. But Mr. DeSantis also muddied his message by citing another reason to defund the Rays. “It’s also inappropriate to subsidize political activism of a private corporation,” he said.

After recent mass shootings in Buffalo, N.Y., and Uvalde, Texas, the Rays pledged to donate $50,000 to Everytown for Gun Safety, a group that wants to ban “assault weapons” and prohibit open carry. The team’s Twitter account, “in lieu of game coverage,” offered “facts about the impacts of gun violence.”

Why sports teams want to risk alienating half of their fans by taking sides in political debates is a mystery. People turn on ESPN as a break from politics, and the shrinking of apolitical spaces makes social comity harder.

As a matter of political realism, corporations that directly punch state leaders can hardly be surprised if they get socked in return. After Florida passed its mislabeled “Don’t Say Gay” law, Disney’s CEO called it a “challenge to basic human rights.” The Legislature reacted by passing a bill to phase out Disney World’s special tax district.

Richard Edelman, CEO of the giant public relations firm, recently warned executives at Davos that “we better be careful here because there’s starting to be a pushback against wokeness.” He’s right, and Mr. Edelman also offered the good advice that CEOs can take political stands in their personal capacity and donations to politicians, but that their public positions are best focused on policy issues that affect business.

But Mr. DeSantis is also in danger of abusing his power if he uses it to punish business for political speech he doesn’t like. Not wanting to subsidize professional sports is a compelling reason to veto the spending provision. Framing the veto as an act of censure is no better than the woke left demanding that corporate executives conform to their agenda. Politicians who behave like bullies invariably get a comeuppance when they overreach.

If Rays fans are put off by political lecturing from a ball club, they know how to quit buying tickets. And if Florida gets a reputation for petty retaliation against business, companies know how to go elsewhere
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: Crafty_Dog on June 23, 2022, 11:15:52 PM
Title: Re: Gov. Ron DeSantis
Post by: DougMacG on June 24, 2022, 04:52:28 AM

I saw that DeSantis leads Trump in a NH first primary poll (but not nationwide, yet).
Title: Gov. Ron DeSantis needs to be very careful
Post by: G M on June 24, 2022, 08:18:17 AM
From Matt Bracken:


1. Trump will be indicted and/or arrested, the purpose being to render him unable to run for office again.

2. DeSantis may die in an "accident" that is highly suspicious. A plane crash is a typical method.

Our enemies are not playing bean bag. They are so worried about losing power that they are playing nuclear chicken with Russia over Kaliningrad. They would prefer nuclear war to losing power, being exposed, and potentially being imprisoned for their crimes, such as pushing the covid vaxx poison for mega profits, currently pushing the poison even down to babies.

"Taking out" potential leading rivals is a proven tactic for staying in power when the electorate is turning away from a political clique. With the corrupted DOJ firmly in their pockets, they will have nothing to fear from sham investigations.

Some history to review for perspective:

RWANDA: On the evening of 6 April 1994, the aircraft carrying Rwandan president Juvénal Habyarimana and Burundian president Cyprien Ntaryamira, both Hutu, was shot down with surface-to-air missiles as their jet prepared to land in Kigali, Rwanda. The assassination set the Rwandan genocide in motion, one of the bloodiest events of the late 20th century.

LEBANON: On 14 September 1982, President Bachir Gemayel was addressing fellow Phalangists at their headquarters in Achrafieh for the last time as their leader and for the last time as commander of the Lebanese Forces. At 4:10 PM, a bomb was detonated, killing Gemayel and 26 other Phalange politicians. His assassination lead to the Sabra and Shatila Massacre. Between 762 and 3,500 civilians, mostly Palestinians and Lebanese Shiites were massacred by members of the Phalange in retaliation for the assassination of Gemayel.