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Politics, Religion, Science, Culture and Humanities => Politics & Religion => Topic started by: Crafty_Dog on December 09, 2021, 01:43:35 PM

Title: Crime and punishment
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 09, 2021, 01:43:35 PM
The thread for this is now on a different forum so starting it afresh here:

Title: NY DA will stop enforcing the law
Post by: ccp on January 05, 2022, 10:33:21 AM
https://www.newsmax.com/us/manhattan-da-alvin-bragg-crime/2022/01/05/id/1051113/

I don't understand how a DA can simply and unilaterally decide not to enforce laws on the books

Is he connected to the gangs?



Title: Re: NY DA will stop enforcing the law
Post by: G M on January 05, 2022, 10:52:43 AM
https://www.newsmax.com/us/manhattan-da-alvin-bragg-crime/2022/01/05/id/1051113/

I don't understand how a DA can simply and unilaterally decide not to enforce laws on the books

Is he connected to the gangs?

If he is a dem, then the answer is yes. The people of NYFC voted for this, they deserve it good and hard!
Title: NYC Soros DA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 06, 2022, 06:35:57 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/manhattans-new-soros-funded-da-lays-foundation-next-crime-wave-will-no-longer-seek-prison?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=396
Title: proposed law for vehicular "kill switch"
Post by: ccp on January 06, 2022, 08:05:03 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/law-install-kill-switches-cars-170000930.html

Title: crime and NO punishment
Post by: ccp on January 08, 2022, 12:21:11 PM
https://nypost.com/2022/01/08/alvin-bragg-underplayed-shoplifting-arrest-says-nypd-sergeants-union/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Bragg

single handedly decides which laws to enforce and which not to:

https://prospect.org/justice/restorative-justice-new-york-da-alvin-bragg-interview/

where does he get this power to NOT enforce LAWs he does not like?

And when did it get decided theft is NOT important?
Title: Re: crime and NO punishment
Post by: G M on January 08, 2022, 12:29:32 PM
Typically, prosecutors have tremendous discretion in what they charge and if they do. The phenomenon of SJW prosecutors publicly announcing that they refuse to prosecute entire classes of crimes is new.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/criminal_justice/standards/ProsecutionFunctionFourthEdition/


https://nypost.com/2022/01/08/alvin-bragg-underplayed-shoplifting-arrest-says-nypd-sergeants-union/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Bragg

single handedly decides which laws to enforce and which not to:

https://prospect.org/justice/restorative-justice-new-york-da-alvin-bragg-interview/

where does he get this power to NOT enforce LAWs he does not like?

And when did it get decided theft is NOT important?
Title: Re: crime and NO punishment
Post by: DougMacG on January 08, 2022, 02:02:08 PM
Yesterday I witnessed a shoplifting incident in Uptown Minneapolis, formerly the nice part of Minneapolis.  I was standing in the checkout wait line at a gas station where they sell food and have bakery goods.  The manager was escorting a guy out, saying "just get out of here, just get out of here".  Then he grabbed on more thing by the exit in plain view of everyone there and was out.  As the manager came back by, I said, "you're gonna prosecute him, right?"  And he said "no.  They won't do anything - and I'm not supposed to do anything either." 

I felt kind of stupid standing there waiting to pay for some measly sandwich after just being told they will do nothing about it if I just walk out the door with it.  And I waited and waited and then paid.  Others made conservative sounding comments as well in this most liberal part of this most liberal city. 

Same people offended by this and affected by it if stores close or raise prices vote for this crap, or at least voted for the people who govern this way.  It all seems unsustainable to me.

Wouldn't bother me as much if they were soft on landlord 'crime' as well.
Title: Re: crime and NO punishment
Post by: G M on January 08, 2022, 02:07:37 PM
Yesterday I witnessed a shoplifting incident in Uptown Minneapolis, formerly the nice part of Minneapolis.  I was standing in the checkout wait line at a gas station where they sell food and have bakery goods.  The manager was escorting a guy out, saying "just get out of here, just get out of here".  Then he grabbed on more thing by the exit in plain view of everyone there and was out.  As the manager came back by, I said, "you're gonna prosecute him, right?"  And he said "no.  They won't do anything - and I'm not supposed to do anything either." 

I felt kind of stupid standing there waiting to pay for some measly sandwich after just being told they will do nothing about it if I just walk out the door with it.  And I waited and waited and then paid.  Others made conservative sounding comments as well in this most liberal part of this most liberal city. 

Same people offended by this and affected by it if stores close or raise prices vote for this crap, or at least voted for the people who govern this way.  It all seems unsustainable to me.

Wouldn't bother me as much if they were soft on landlord 'crime' as well.

Once the Twin Cities Sharia Patrol gets going, theft will become much less common. Also immodestly dressed women and pork products.
Title: the police were at fault
Post by: ccp on January 13, 2022, 06:19:56 AM
https://news.yahoo.com/report-finds-utah-police-made-045023961.html

of course.   :roll:

Ben Crump to sue now?

Title: high profile robbery Laughlin
Post by: ccp on January 17, 2022, 09:04:43 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/01/16/actress-lori-loughlins-l-a-home-robbed-of-1-million-in-jewelry/

"Police say they think a South American burglary crew pulled off the heist — the thieves apparently travel to the United States, hit locations, and then quickly leave the country, reports TMZ"

surprised police are even bothering to look into this .
I mean it is only burglary
and since when is theft a problem in the US - anymore?
Title: gang member gets the money to get out of jail
Post by: ccp on January 28, 2022, 08:31:39 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10450715/16-year-old-wannabe-rapper-charged-shooting-NYPD-cop-scuffle-walked-free-bond-Thursday.html

Title: Re: gang member gets the money to get out of jail
Post by: G M on January 28, 2022, 09:04:12 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10450715/16-year-old-wannabe-rapper-charged-shooting-NYPD-cop-scuffle-walked-free-bond-Thursday.html

This is what NYC voted for, I hope they enjoy it.
Title: ahem in low volume voice the REVEREND AL
Post by: ccp on February 09, 2022, 10:51:08 AM
in the way Rush would have done it

now claims we need to get this out of the front pages of newspapers

since it hurts Dems:

https://nypost.com/2022/02/09/rev-al-sharpton-calls-on-eric-adams-to-address-brazen-nyc-thefts/

cock roach is now worried about the problems he and his mob have wrought

I would like to ask him
so what should the mayor do now that we have decriminalized non violent crime?

thanks to BLM SJW etc (led by him)
Title: arsonist murderer gets reduced sentence
Post by: ccp on February 10, 2022, 08:48:14 AM
because he quoted MLK:

https://www.conservativereview.com/house-republicans-press-biden-doj-on-soft-sentence-for-floyd-arsonist-2656622033.html

 :-(
Title: the horror of this speaks for. itself
Post by: ccp on February 11, 2022, 01:09:12 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinese-woman-suffers-skull-fractures-012129115.html
Title: solitary confinement is only good when it is Republicans
Post by: ccp on February 15, 2022, 08:26:08 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/plea-help-quarter-century-penal-124855603.html

( I am not saying this guy should spend life in solitary however - seems too cruel)

Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 15, 2022, 10:46:07 AM
This is too much, by quite a bit!
Title: crime NO punishment
Post by: ccp on February 15, 2022, 03:53:10 PM
12 x in 11 months

https://nypost.com/2022/02/15/shoplifter-busted-in-front-of-post-photographer-during-report-on-other-theft/

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/crime-penalties/petty-theft-new-york-penalties-defense

but did not the DA say he will not prosecute ?
Title: co conspirator gets at most 3 y for helping deliver nuclear secrets
Post by: ccp on February 19, 2022, 08:52:17 AM
presumable to Chinese:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/espionage-toebbe-navy-conspiracy/2022/02/18/id/1057534/

plea deal
for hard slap on wrist

what happened to hanging spies?
Title: sister's head bashed in
Post by: ccp on February 26, 2022, 11:37:20 PM
But Dr Gershon Rothschild (the brother)

is a good DEMO crat till the end:

https://goodwordnews.com/subway-crime-woman-savagely-beaten-with-hammer-in-queens-robbery/

"He added that he was particularly confident in Mayor Adams’ plan to make subways safer."
“I hope the homeless outreach program will yield results in getting as much help as possible to people who need it, potentially reducing crime,” said Gerson Rothschild."

A righteous self envisioned mensch to the death I guess

Title: SCOTUS reinstated death penalty for Boston Bomber
Post by: ccp on March 04, 2022, 08:52:31 AM
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/supreme-court-death-sentence/2022/03/04/id/1059657/

2 thumbs way up

now can we get this over with
Title: Brave 13 yo kicks car jackers ass
Post by: ccp on March 04, 2022, 09:26:36 AM
https://www.conservativereview.com/woman-steals-car-with-13-year-old-boy-sleeping-in-front-seat-he-wakes-up-punches-her-in-the-face-several-times-to-get-her-to-stop-and-it-works-2656843480.html

Title: any relation to shootings in Florida spring break?
Post by: ccp on March 22, 2022, 07:54:03 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2022/03/22/video-new-orleans-police-arrest-minors-connected-to-fatal-carjacking-no-regard-for-human-life/
Title: Crime and punishment, the people Kamal-Ketanji want out
Post by: DougMacG on April 06, 2022, 01:50:27 PM
(Shooter in Sacramento)

"Inmate Martin forcibly entered his girlfriend's residence. He located her hiding in her bedroom closet and hit her repeatedly with a closed fist on the face, head, and body, causing visible injuries. He then dragged her out of the home by her hair to an awaiting car. After he put her in the car, he assaulted her with a belt."

https://reason.com/volokh/2022/04/06/d-a-s-office-letter-that-opposed-parole-for-man-now-arrested-in-connection-with-sacramento-killings-of-six/

For more explanation, he was 'helping her' in prostitution (blame the victim), and...
... that's. how. she.  learns.

We need more empathy and understanding for the perp??

What's the hurry of liberals to get dangerous people out?  You couldn't tell he was dangerous? One vote?  Really?? How's that working out?
Title: NYpost video
Post by: ccp on April 17, 2022, 10:40:55 AM
https://nypost.com/2022/04/17/lapd-shows-footage-of-woman-rammed-by-car-as-she-tries-to-flee-robbery/

send in the social workers

white supremacy the biggest threat to democracy and public safety.  :roll:
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 17, 2022, 03:47:35 PM
PanFa plus Soros funded DA in the land of Defund the Police.
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: ccp on April 17, 2022, 04:41:27 PM
" PanFa " ?
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: G M on April 17, 2022, 04:52:16 PM
" PanFa " ?

You need to catch up on the M Yon thread!
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: ccp on April 17, 2022, 05:02:05 PM
you mean this:

YNTOCUOTMYT
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 17, 2022, 07:18:38 PM
LOL :-D
Title: El Salvodor. gang policy
Post by: ccp on April 28, 2022, 08:25:40 AM
https://dnyuz.com/2022/04/28/in-el-salvador-the-president-cracks-down-on-civil-liberties-and-is-beloved-for-it/

the fight against narco terror

is like Lincoln suspending habeas corpus

food for thought

Wilson would jail people who spoke out against the US involvement in WW I....

Title: Teenage girl to pay $150k for stabbing her rapist to death
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 15, 2022, 08:36:48 AM
Teenage girl ordered to pay $150,000 for stabbing accused rapist to death

BY MARGERY A. BECK ASSOCIATED PRESS

A teenage human trafficking victim who was initially charged with first-degree murder after she stabbed her accused rapist to death was sentenced Tuesday in an Iowa court to five years of closely supervised probation and ordered to pay $150,000 restitution to the man’s family.

Pieper Lewis, 17, was sentenced Tuesday after having pleaded last year to involuntary manslaughter and willful injury in the June 2020 killing of Zachary Brooks, 37, of Des Moines. Both charges were punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

Polk County District Judge David M. Porter on Tuesday deferred those prison sentences, meaning that if Lewis violates any portion of her probation, she could be sent to prison to serve a 20-year term.

As for being required to pay the estate of her rapist, “this court is presented with no other option,” Judge Porter said, noting the restitution is mandatory under Iowa law that has been upheld by the Iowa Supreme Court.

Lewis was 15 when she stabbed Brooks more than 30 times in a Des Moines apartment.

Officials have said Lewis was a runaway who was seeking to escape an abusive life with her adopted mother and was sleeping in the hallways of a Des Moines apartment building when a 28-year-old man took her in before forcibly trafficking her to other men for sex.

Lewis said one of those men was Brooks and that he had raped her multiple times in the weeks before his death. She recounted being forced at knifepoint by the 28-year-old man to go with Brooks to his apartment for sex. She told officials that after Brooks had raped her yet again, she grabbed a knife from a bedside table and stabbed Brooks in a fit of rage.

Police and prosecutors have not disputed that Lewis was sexually assaulted and trafficked. But prosecutors have argued that Brooks was asleep at the time he was stabbed and not an immediate danger to Lewis.

Iowa is not among the dozens of states that have a so-called safe harbor law that gives trafficking victims at least some level of criminal immunity
Title: Crime but not punishment, 1000 carjackings in Philadelphia this year
Post by: DougMacG on September 28, 2022, 07:20:09 AM
Along with inflation, crime is becoming the other biggest issue this year, with politicians like Fetterman (PA) and Walz(MN) rightfully getting painted as soft on crime.

"The Philadelphia Police Department says there have been 946 carjackings and attempts this year."
By Maggie Kent
Wednesday, September 7, 2022

https://6abc.com/philadelphia-carjacking-philly-police-2022-map/12209566/
---------
400 murders also, so far, but many inner city murders gang members killing each other.  Carjackings target the innocent.
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: ccp on September 28, 2022, 07:43:56 AM
I think I mentioned prior
that I had car stolen in Camden NJ just across the Delaware River from Phila.

in ~ 1985
then in. ~ 1986 or 7

in West Phila.

of course no one caught no one held accountable

police did essentially nothing
never spoke to me

All I could do was speak to my insurance company
Title: The stats are going to get much worse
Post by: G M on October 07, 2022, 02:18:49 PM
https://www.revolver.news/2022/10/the-13-52-meme-just-became-13-60-hillary-clinton-was-right/#comments
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: ccp on October 07, 2022, 02:33:56 PM
why do you rob banks?

willie sutton (purportedly though I also read he denied being the one to say this)

because that is where the money is

why do police appear to stop blacks more ?

because that is where most of the crime is .


RACISSSSSSMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!
 :wink:
Title: Just a reminder about our national priorities
Post by: G M on October 08, 2022, 07:25:01 AM
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/clay%20county.jpg

(https://ace.mu.nu/archives/clay%20county.jpg)
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: ccp on October 08, 2022, 10:12:45 AM
GM

Like the posts but is there anyway to make smaller so it fits on the Firehydrant screen
so we don't have to scroll side to side to see it

 :|
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 08, 2022, 11:13:40 AM
Ditto. 

Large or not, I already played that one forward!
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: G M on October 08, 2022, 04:36:11 PM
GM

Like the posts but is there anyway to make smaller so it fits on the Firehydrant screen
so we don't have to scroll side to side to see it

 :|

Not that I am aware of.
Title: Most republican'ts too scared to bring this up
Post by: G M on October 16, 2022, 08:57:38 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/blood-hands-number-police-killed-targeted-attacks-doubled-since-democrat-sanctioned-anti-police-protests-2020/
Title: Re: Most republican'ts too scared to bring this up
Post by: DougMacG on October 16, 2022, 09:49:13 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/blood-hands-number-police-killed-targeted-attacks-doubled-since-democrat-sanctioned-anti-police-protests-2020/


Is this the MSM?  Posted is an accurate report of a horrible consequence that was 100% caused by Democrats with a headline that turns it against Republicans.  Good grief.
Title: Re: Crime and punishment, defund the police?
Post by: DougMacG on October 18, 2022, 07:07:53 AM
https://youtu.be/t9OZMBuVL5U

7 minutes of Democrats, defund the police.  Show it to the voters along with the escalation of crime.
Title: Our lawless, shithole cities
Post by: G M on October 19, 2022, 01:39:39 PM
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=401462

Keep voting dem!
Title: Re: Our lawless, shithole cities Philadelphia
Post by: G M on October 19, 2022, 02:22:48 PM
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=401462

Keep voting dem!

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/watch-dirt-bike-atv-riders-throw-bricks-at-philly-cop-cars/3395118/
Title: Our political show trials
Post by: G M on October 19, 2022, 07:26:18 PM
https://republicbrief.com/bombshell-dropped-about-jury-who-convicted-bannon/

“They’re coming for Steve Bannon. Now Steve was found guilty on two counts in July contempt of congress DC jury, who found him guilty of refusing the subpoena from the unconstitutional January 6 committee. I was in the courtroom for a large amount of that trial, and it was a joke. It was really a joke. I saw juror after juror saying they knew exactly who Steve Bannon is, and they certainly knew who Trump was, and they had no positive view of them whatsoever. And so the question becomes for all of us a question of what justice was served here by having a sham committee issuing these subpoenas and then having a sham trial with a jury where the verdict is already known,” Posobiec said, giving the shocking insider’s point of view into the courtroom that the lapdog media was ignoring.

“You’re already aware of what the jury is going to be. It’s a show trial, so they put Steve on show trial, and guess what? He got found guilty, why? Because you always get found guilty at the end of the show trial, that’s the whole point of the show trial to make it look like the regime isn’t the one doing it, but they always are
Title: Paul Pelosi
Post by: DougMacG on October 28, 2022, 01:51:48 PM
We all here condemn the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband.

Unlike: 

https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1242494399638114305?s=20&t=1Y9_HZVUxOVBoutE9wYkWA
https://www.businessinsider.com/rand-paul-calls-out-nancy-pelosi-daughter-wishes-husband-well-2022-10

We already had a plan in place (campaigning and voting) to remove her from the office of Speaker.

Rand Paul OTOH (and Steve Scalise) deserve what thy got because they are conservative, and support liberty.
Title: FBI burying the crime data
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 08, 2022, 03:29:29 PM
https://issuesinsights.com/2022/11/07/as-murders-soar-fbi-buries-the-data/?fbclid=IwAR1qRioEiNVtSxH9s9E1VkFMhYCvW_3AHzL2ik3I1pQDDzZoUmOcFKWzsWU
Title: FBI buries data of 1 in 179 chance of being murdered
Post by: Crafty_Dog on November 17, 2022, 12:52:06 PM
https://www.ammoland.com/2022/11/report-you-stand-1-chance-in-179-of-being-murdered-fbi-buried-data/?ct=t(RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN)#axzz7ku4oFLaM
Title: PA Republican oust DA Krasner
Post by: ccp on November 17, 2022, 01:26:05 PM
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2022/11/17/pennsylvania-house-impeaches-philadelphias-radical-da-larry-krasner-n1646640
Title: compare to how gangs are handled here
Post by: ccp on December 04, 2022, 01:22:10 PM
https://news.yahoo.com/salvadoran-troops-surround-major-city-174950493.html
Title: shoplifter thrown to curb
Post by: ccp on January 16, 2023, 06:55:12 AM
https://pjmedia.com/culture/athena-thorne/2023/01/15/watch-guitar-hero-tosses-would-be-shoplifter-to-the-curb-n1662051

good thing shoplifter is not Black
otherwise Crump Sharpton Obama would be all over this
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 16, 2023, 07:47:20 AM
We've been having a good time with this one in my martial arts circles  :-D
Title: Perchance could these two be related?
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 02, 2023, 07:44:53 AM


https://www.postbulletin.com/news/local/rochester-man-given-180-days-in-jail-for-raping-juvenile-females

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/feb/1/rash-vigilante-incidents-sow-concern-about-citizen/?utm_source=Boomtrain&utm_medium=subscriber&utm_campaign=newsalert&utm_content=newsalert&utm_term=newsalert&bt_ee=JjXcJLI%2B2oQmqslIBXldqyouYXJWxJh5amdHUqu10dgg1XZ0093SYLKyJmBrLe5W&bt_ts=1675347542201

Title: Local crime story, not newsworthy
Post by: G M on February 23, 2023, 07:31:04 AM
https://wwmt.com/news/local/jack-snyder-battle-creek-shooting-central-high-school-police-department-calhoun-county-youth-center-arraigned

Guess who did this...
Title: Vote Blue, get Zoo
Post by: G M on February 27, 2023, 08:05:03 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11794539/Moment-squatters-terrorizing-Portland-family-set-home-fire.html

Title: Re: Vote Blue, get Zoo
Post by: G M on February 27, 2023, 08:06:29 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11794539/Moment-squatters-terrorizing-Portland-family-set-home-fire.html

https://wirepoints.org/chicagos-pursuit-of-criminal-justice-reform-an-utter-failure-windy-city-homicides-top-nation-for-11th-year-in-a-row-with-crime-still-rising-wirepoints/
Title: Re: Vote Blue, get Zoo
Post by: G M on February 27, 2023, 08:14:17 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11794539/Moment-squatters-terrorizing-Portland-family-set-home-fire.html

https://wirepoints.org/chicagos-pursuit-of-criminal-justice-reform-an-utter-failure-windy-city-homicides-top-nation-for-11th-year-in-a-row-with-crime-still-rising-wirepoints/

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/chicago-claims-lax-gun-laws-make-atlanta-is-too-dangerous-to-host-the-democrats-national-convention/

Title: Atlanta and Chicago homicide rates
Post by: ccp on February 27, 2023, 08:19:27 AM
lets see

homicide rate in Atlanta is 19.53/100,000

homicide rate for Chicago is 18.26/100,000

according to this :

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/39/

 :roll:  the LEFT will say anything
Title: 17 year old Malevolent Mongo to be tried as adult
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 03, 2023, 08:38:25 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2023/02/28/student-who-beat-unconscious-teacher-taking-nintendo-switch-will-be-tried-adult/?fbclid=IwAR0IR81VlGwadKDhzZShgaE9zXQ6aN9kWhuI4pusPEGfl_YRWbdb1EfsS1c
Title: The Floyd Effect
Post by: G M on March 12, 2023, 09:27:47 AM
https://datahazard.substack.com/p/american-murder

What statues do we tear down?
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: Crafty_Dog on March 12, 2023, 05:13:47 PM
That is a very challenging article.

As I read it I had moments wondering if he was sometimes blurring the distinction between "murdered" and "murderer".

Given the implications of the article, it is very important that this be gotten right.
Title: look what white supremacy has done
Post by: ccp on March 13, 2023, 11:45:16 AM
wonder what he is going to buy with the stolen cash?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/houston-woman-left-unable-walk-171448057.html

milk?
food?
sneakers?
a basket ball?
down payment for a text book for school?
help pay for his mother's diabetes medicine?
what do ya think?
Title: Re: look what white supremacy has done
Post by: G M on March 14, 2023, 07:15:24 AM
wonder what he is going to buy with the stolen cash?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/houston-woman-left-unable-walk-171448057.html

milk?
food?
sneakers?
a basket ball?
down payment for a text book for school?
help pay for his mother's diabetes medicine?
what do ya think?

Black Crime Matters
Title: It's only going to get worse...
Post by: G M on April 20, 2023, 07:49:03 AM
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/04/20/who-really-cares-about-dead-kids/#more-300404
Title: WaPo's take
Post by: Crafty_Dog on April 30, 2023, 04:19:32 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/30/americans-gun-violence-strangers-crime/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F39df5e4%2F644e8c1fa61bab12f747ac9f%2F61cdf026ae7e8a4ac205b2b3%2F11%2F72%2F644e8c1fa61bab12f747ac9f
Title: Re: WaPo's take
Post by: G M on April 30, 2023, 04:25:57 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/30/americans-gun-violence-strangers-crime/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F39df5e4%2F644e8c1fa61bab12f747ac9f%2F61cdf026ae7e8a4ac205b2b3%2F11%2F72%2F644e8c1fa61bab12f747ac9f

America’s decent into chaos and violence is just something republicans are imagining!

 :roll:
Title: elizabeth holmes
Post by: ccp on May 07, 2023, 07:58:29 AM
https://dnyuz.com/2023/05/07/liz-holmes-wants-you-to-forget-about-elizabeth/

con artist cons
again

prosecutors judges

so get of jail card is granted if one suddenly has babies ?

since when is that a defense ?

so frustrating

crime and punishment  --->

crime and no punishment

the state of our two tiered legal system today
Title: 16 to Life
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 11, 2023, 04:20:21 PM
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/3022631902211-nyc-man-sentenced-to-16-years-to-life-for-slashing-ex-girlfriend-on-subway-platform?noAds=1&_f=app_share&s=i5
Title: larceny essentially legal in some locations
Post by: ccp on May 14, 2023, 08:58:28 AM
https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2023/05/12/story-on-san-francisco-shoplifting-confirms-there-are-no-consequences-n550475

crime and punishment

I could have never imagined yrs ago we would have leaders who only enforce laws  that suits them and simply not enforce those they do not like .

and they keep expanding the free stuff crowd and stirring up anger over race sexual preference and gender to decide what they will and will not enforce
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 14, 2023, 04:55:02 PM
You and me both. :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Escape from Alcatraz
Post by: Crafty_Dog on May 16, 2023, 07:05:06 PM


https://en.onechicagocenter.com/view/?id=escape-from-alcatraz-occ&src=facebook&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=occ_a_us_elizabeth_occ1_158960_escape-from-alcatraz_all_conv-tv80_conv_both_18p_i-0_cost-low_287677712&utm_medium=23854216754370125&fbclid=IwAR0u3DUADJoq7ljsNnf0mTCxTc7lahRPKcSrGZk32Bh2cbD2FykAcjkdamI&page=3
Title: Massively drop your homicide rate with this one weird trick!
Post by: G M on June 11, 2023, 08:23:42 PM
https://traditionsofconflict.substack.com/p/gebusi-homicide-and-the-cultural

It must have really hurt them to begrudgingly discuss the role Christianity played.
Title: Crime and punishment by race
Post by: DougMacG on July 31, 2023, 09:23:23 PM
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/07/proof-that-law-enforcement-does-not-discriminate-against-blacks.php
Title: Lies, damned lies, and statistics
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 14, 2023, 09:45:43 AM
https://www.ammoland.com/2023/08/america-has-a-crime-reporting-problem/?ct=t(RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN)#axzz8AMtxwDLN
Title: NYC: And drove off in a BMW
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 15, 2023, 12:10:44 PM
https://pix11.com/news/local-news/brooklyn/man-accused-of-punching-81-year-old-man-in-the-head-in-brooklyn/?fbclid=IwAR1RJagXugxM7yuo0VP7rgPCykZgP5TjuUB3EX6aMqgqI3hKnFP0m8vPRiQ
Title: Most dangerous cities
Post by: Crafty_Dog on August 20, 2023, 06:51:58 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-most-dangerous-cities-us?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1763
Title: Contrast J6 Proud Boys
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 02, 2023, 01:19:13 PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/prosecutors-win-light-sentence-for-man-who-set-deadly-fire-during-floyd-riots?fbclid=IwAR1uOpWXM-rssq33ic2CCzK1q95_4Xg5E6Zjx1cuGND1501Lf6qRaPq4FjM
Title: TX: Drunk drivers who kill parents now must pay child support
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 03, 2023, 07:42:15 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12475615/texas-drunk-drivers-child-support-bentleys-law.html
Title: Danny Masterson and the Statute of Limitations
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 10, 2023, 03:32:36 AM
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/09/actor_danny_masterson_and_the_statute_of_limitations.html
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: ccp on September 10, 2023, 11:33:44 AM
"The prosecution of Danny Masterson - and other cases like it - undermine that very need for speed that is so critical for the security of the American citizenry.

There are exceptions, yes.  Some crimes, such as treason, certainly should have no statutes of limitations. But these exceptions should be as rare as possible, because the reasons listed above are still applicable to every case.  "

what about tax fraud that was know but simply not pursued by prosecutors strictly to protect a favored politician and family?
Title: So, suicide you say , , ,
Post by: Crafty_Dog on September 15, 2023, 05:58:16 PM
https://americanwirenews.com/appellate-panel-rules-philly-teacher-who-was-stabbed-20-times-10-times-from-behind-was-a-suicide/?utm_campaign=james&utm_content=9%2F15%2F23%20SOE%20PM&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=Get%20response&utm_term=email
Title: Heh heh, Soros DA carjacked in NOLA
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 18, 2023, 05:45:47 AM
https://amgreatness.com/2023/10/18/soros-funded-district-attorney-carjacked-in-his-own-city/
Title: PP on FBI Crime Stats
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 23, 2023, 09:49:19 AM
The Real Spin Cycle on FBI Crime Stats
The Leftmedia made nary a peep about soft-on-crime or anti-police policies, instead blaming guns and a virus.

Nate Jackson


The FBI's annual report on crime in the nation isn't what it used to be. As the FBI updates its methods for reporting crimes, and the Leftmedia ramps up its efforts to blame guns and COVID and to make the narrative about crime be one of victim groups, getting to the truth can be a challenge.

The FBI says that "national violent crime decreased an estimated 1.7% in 2022 compared to 2021 estimates." Murder dropped 6.1%, rape fell 5.4%, and assault and robbery both decreased a little more than 1%. That's great news, right? Maybe.

The problem is that the previous year didn't have all the data. And by not all the data, we mean that, as the Associated Press notes, "nearly two-fifths of all policing agencies failed to participate, including big cities like New York, Los Angeles and Miami."

This year's report was better, but it still had holes. "In 2022, 83% of US law enforcement agencies submitted data to the federal government, which means that about 10% of the population is not represented in this data," The Guardian reports.

Also remember that a lot of reporting to police is voluntary, and crimes like rapes and robberies are not always reported.

With the caveats out of the way, we'll move to the politicization of crime. As far as the Leftmedia is concerned, it's all about who or what you blame for crime.

Naturally, most outlets blame "an increase in guns," as NPR framed it. NPR also says crime rose in both Alabama and Massachusetts, so it can't be blamed on Democrats. The AP offers this bit of related misinformation: "Gun-safety advocates decry the loosening of gun laws, especially in conservative-leaning states around the U.S." As if law-abiding Republicans are the ones committing crime.

The FBI report "underscores how pervasive gun violence has become," says The New York Times. In fact, "Firearms were used in almost half a million violent crimes across the country, about the same number as in 2021."

No news reporters seem to care that firearms are also used at least that many times each year to prevent crimes. Nor do they care that firearms sales were increasing for many years while crime went down, or that black women are the fastest-growing demographic of gun buyers, or that law-abiding, permit-holding gun owners are not the ones committing crime.

The Times also offers borderline disinformation: "The profile of the victims has shifted significantly. In 2020, gun violence became the leading cause of death for American children, and in 2022 things became even worse: The number of children killed in shootings increased by almost 12 percent, and those wounded increased by almost 11 percent." As the "fact-checkers" like to say, that's "missing context." Most of those "children" are older adolescents who are involved in gang or drug violence.

Another fascinating and revealing thing from media coverage is the universal effort to blame the coronavirus pandemic, which the AP says "created huge social disruption and upended support systems." To be sure, crime did spike beginning in 2020, but it wasn't caused by a virus from China. (Though maybe Democrats tyrannically shutting down everything might have irritated some people.)

Something else happened in 2020 that ignited "mostly peaceful protests," otherwise known as violence and unrest in urban centers.

That's right — the death of George Floyd, which Joe Biden disgracefully elevated again last week, and the ensuing summer of rage are to blame.

As the Times notes, "There were 25 percent more homicides in 2022 than in 2019." Many of those murders are blacks killed by other blacks. Don't black lives matter?

Speaking of blacks, another big feature of the FBI report was so-called "hate crimes." NPR says, "Black people, Jewish people and gay men were the most likely to be targeted." Well, yeah. Not to be insensitive, but only the Left's select "marginalized" groups can be the victims of hate crime, so it stands to reason that increases would only happen among those groups. And as noted above, however, black-on-black crime is a huge problem. How often is that also true of gays? We've noted the case of Matthew Shepard twice in recent days.

There's so much more to say, but, in short, we're outraged at every robbery, carjacking, and rape. We lament every human life needlessly taken. Yet until the media and our elected representatives tell the truth about crime and its causes, and until the Democrats who've run our cities (into the ground) for decades change their soft-on-crime policies, more property will be destroyed or taken, and more lives will be lost.
Title: Re: PP on FBI Crime Stats
Post by: Body-by-Guinness on October 23, 2023, 03:48:40 PM
The Real Spin Cycle on FBI Crime Stats
The Leftmedia made nary a peep about soft-on-crime or anti-police policies, instead blaming guns and a virus.

Nate Jackson


Marc, what’s the source for this (very apt) piece? I’d like to cite it elsewhere.

Any The Wire fans here? That show did a dive into “juking the stats,” including the political motivations that inspire it, that was all sorts of telling.
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: Crafty_Dog on October 23, 2023, 05:00:02 PM
Patriot Post.

I should have said.
Title: FL: Death penalty sought for child rapist
Post by: Crafty_Dog on December 16, 2023, 07:58:57 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12870043/Florida-man-Joseph-Giampa-death-penalty-law-DeSantis-sex-crime-child.html
Title: WSJ: Riley: No, the criminal justice system is not racist
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 03, 2024, 08:56:05 AM
No, the Criminal-Justice System Isn’t Racist
Another academic paper finds scant support for the theory that bias causes incarceration disparities.
Jason L. Riley
Jan. 2, 2024 6:34 pm ET

The notion that the U.S. criminal-justice system is stacked against black people has gained currency since the death of George Floyd. It’s often cited as a basis for everything from ending cash bail and closing prisons to legalizing drugs, decriminalizing petty theft and offering reparations to the descendants of slaves. But is it supported by the evidence?

Not according to a new academic paper by two Stetson University sociologists, Christopher Ferguson and Sven Smith. After analyzing 51 studies on sentencing disparities that were published between 2005 and 2022, they conclude that “overrepresentation among perpetrators of crime explains incarceration disparities to a greater degree than does racism in the criminal justice system.” In other words, blacks are incarcerated at higher rates than other groups because they commit crimes at higher rates, not due to systemic bias.

Some of the studies found that “race had little clear impact on criminal adjudication,” while others found that “Black defendants receive more lenient sentences than Whites.” Tellingly, the authors note that “better quality studies were less likely to produce results supportive of disparities,” which raises the possibility that conventional wisdom about race and criminal justice is not only misguided but also drawing on sloppy research.

“Our results suggest that for most crimes, criminal adjudication in the U.S. is not substantially biased on race or class lines,” the researchers write. “For drug crimes there appear to be very small race differences, though confidence in these effects is reduced somewhat due to the quality of many of the studies involved.” These findings, they stress, do not mean “there is not potential for bias in other areas such as police treatment, arrests, or other outcomes,” but “Overall, perceptions of bias in US criminal adjudications do not seem proportionate to the available evidence.”

Some will be eager to dismiss the paper, but it isn’t an outlier. In 2016 Harvard economist Roland Fryer published research on policing that also countered the preferred narrative of social-justice advocates. Mr. Fryer found no evidence of racial bias in fatal police shootings, which he told the New York Times had surprised him. He did find large racial differences in police use of nonlethal force—grabbing and shoving suspects, for example—but concluded: “It is plausible that racial differences in lower level uses of force are simply a distraction and movements such as Black Lives Matter should seek solutions within their own communities rather than changing the behaviors of police and other external forces.”

In 2019 psychologists Joseph Cesario of Michigan State and David Johnson of the University of Maryland published findings that were similar to Mr. Fryer’s. After controlling for race-specific violent-crime rates, they found “no significant evidence of anti-black disparity in the likelihood of being fatally shot by police.” Mr. Fryer has stood by his work, despite considerable blowback, but following the death of George Floyd in 2020, Messrs. Cesario and Johnson retracted their paper.

All the empirical evidence under the sun might not stand a chance against a viral video of Derek Chauvin kneeling on George Floyd, but Messrs. Ferguson and Smith deserve credit for following the facts where they lead and reporting the politically incorrect findings. Academic integrity and courage seem to be in short supply these days, and the paper performs a public service for people who put hard data above political spin.

The authors suggest that policy makers focus on poverty to address these racial imbalances. It’s true that the poor are more likely to engage in violent crime, and that blacks are more likely to be poor. But it’s also true that black violent crime rates were significantly lower in the 1940s and ’50s, when the black population was significantly poorer than it is today, and when racism inside (and outside) the criminal-justice system was rampant and overt.

One difference between then and now is the rate of absent fathers in black communities. Our jails and prisons aren’t teeming with people from intact families. Yet the disintegration of the nuclear family and other cultural problems in low-income neighborhoods where violent crime is common is a topic that few people in academia, politics or the media wish to tackle.

“At present, we believe that the evidence on racial bias in criminal justice adjudication has been poorly communicated to the general public and policymakers,” Messrs. Ferguson and Smith write. “In many cases, it appears that data calling into question beliefs in structural racism in the criminal justice system are simply being ignored, both by scholars in the field and by policy makers.”

Blaming black outcomes on the criminal justice system will do little to help the black underclass, but it helps activists raise money, and it helps politicians secure votes. Don’t expect it to stop anytime soon.
Title: where is the Swat team?
Post by: ccp on January 04, 2024, 03:49:56 PM
https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1742956938021986463?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1742956938021986463%7Ctwgr%5E1d44ba41852296b00c1a5ad7000d076b0c34e69f%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fcrime%2F2024%2F01%2F04%2Fwatch-street-takeover-mob-robs-destroys-compton-mom-pop-bakery%2F
Title: WSJ: Homicide rates fell sharply in 2023
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 07, 2024, 02:08:27 AM
Homicide Rates Fell Sharply in 2023 After Rising During Pandemic
Cities like Houston, Los Angeles and Philadelphia saw major declines as police step up efforts
By
Zusha Elinson
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Jan. 6, 2024 9:00 pm ET






Killings were down about 15% in the 10 largest cities last year when compared with the previous year. PHOTO: DAMIAN DOVARGANES/ASSOCIATED PRESS

Homicides in big U.S. cities fell in 2023 after skyrocketing during the first two years of the pandemic.

Killings were down about 15% in the 10 largest cities last year when compared with 2022, according to local government data. That includes a 20% drop in both Philadelphia and Houston and 16% in Los Angeles.

Murders rose in two of the top 10 cities. Dallas reported a 15% increase, while homicides in Austin edged up by 3%.

The overall trend shows that the factors that contributed to an increase in violent confrontations in the early days of the pandemic are receding, police officials and criminologists say.

Shootings are falling as gang-violence prevention programs get back up and running. Domestic killings have declined as families are no longer cooped up together at home. Police are more active after a pullback in enforcement during the racial-justice protests over the murder of George Floyd, according to local officials.

In 2022, murders in the U.S. dropped 6% after rising 4% in 2021 and spiking by nearly 30% in 2020, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The agency isn’t expected to release national crime figures for 2023 until later this year.

Even with declining numbers, Americans remain jittery about crime. A Gallup poll from November found that 63% of the U.S. residents saw crime as a serious problem, up from 54% in 2022 and the highest in at least two decades.

 In the nation’s second-largest city, Los Angeles, homicides dropped for a second straight year.

“We’re not seeing the levels of violence that we saw earlier,” said Michael Moore, the city’s chief of police. “We’re still above where we were in 2019, so there’s a lot more work to be done.”

Los Angeles’s 327 homicides last year were down from a 15-year-high of 402 in 2021. In the early days of the pandemic—with the closure of courts and the release of prisoners due to Covid-19—“the criminal element and others felt it was ‘olly olly oxen free,’ ” said Moore.

With the criminal-justice system up and running again and the city’s army of gang-intervention workers back to heading off rivalries and retaliatory shootings, killings have fallen, he said.

Another major factor: The city’s leadership, which at one time supported calls to “defund the police,” is now pushing to hire more officers, Moore said.


A few major cities like Dallas and Washington, D.C., which isn’t one of the 10 largest, saw increases in homicides in 2023. Killings had declined in Dallas in 2021 and 2022, and the city was considered to be a model for crime prevention with its surgical approach to violent crime hot spots.

Dallas police officials said that nearly two-thirds of the killings last year occurred inside residences or apartment complexes and that more than 70 percent of the people involved were involved in criminal activity or high-risk behavior.

Some criminologists say that the drop in killings is tied most closely to the dissipating effects of the pandemic. During the pandemic, Americans were disconnected from schools, churches, counseling and gang-intervention programs, which resulted in more deadly conflicts, said John Roman, a senior fellow in the Economics, Justice & Society department at NORC at the University of Chicago.

“It teaches us that there are things that work, that police and teachers and social workers and behavioral health workers, they help to keep people from being victimized and committing crimes,” Roman said. “When they weren’t there, everything shot up and they came back and everything started to decline.”

Roman said that the country is headed for prepandemic levels of violent crime but he worries that it will be difficult to go lower because of the increase in guns in civilian hands. Americans bought more than 70 million guns over the past four years.

“The guns weigh heavily on the crime story,” he said

As homicides fell, robberies and burglaries also dropped in the first six months of 2023, compared with the first six months of 2022, according to a study of 37 cities by the Council on Criminal Justice, a nonpartisan think tank. Motor-vehicle thefts rose 33.5% in 32 of those cities in that same period of time. Some police officials say that Hyundais and Kias in particular are inviting targets for thieves because of technology glitches and account for much of the rise.
Title: Drug Warrior Chew Toy …
Post by: Body-by-Guinness on January 25, 2024, 05:09:40 AM
… right here:

https://pjmedia.com/rick-moran/2024/01/24/woman-smokes-pot-stabs-boyfriend-108-times-receives-probation-n4925799
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: Crafty_Dog on January 25, 2024, 05:39:32 AM
Judge is way out of line here.  The jury, the finder of fact, rejected her theory blaming the pot.
Title: NYPD Grows a Pair & Shuts Down JFK Shut Down
Post by: Body-by-Guinness on January 27, 2024, 07:15:33 PM
As the piece points out, they can hide their faces, but not their license plates:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/01/this-is-how-you-do-it-nypd-stops-hamas-supporters-from-flooding-jfk-airport/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=this-is-how-you-do-it-nypd-stops-hamas-supporters-from-flooding-jfk-airport
Title: Man charged after killing a pedo
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 04, 2024, 05:46:28 PM
https://www.oann.com/newsroom/man-charged-after-allegedly-posing-as-minor-to-lure-and-kill-convicted-sex-offender/
Title: Re: Man charged after killing a pedo
Post by: Body-by-Guinness on February 05, 2024, 06:38:57 AM
https://www.oann.com/newsroom/man-charged-after-allegedly-posing-as-minor-to-lure-and-kill-convicted-sex-offender/

I served on a grand jury a couple months back (we were sworn to secrecy and hence can't get into specifics) and found it to be quite depressing given most of the cases we heard involved meatheads taking, selling, or carrying proscribed substances and then doing something stupid to attract police attention. For fornication's sake, when I was 16 and doing doobies out back of the high school we had more freaking sense than these yoyos casually flinging fentanyl or whatever around.

As that may be, the second eye-opening set of felons were child predators who had supposedly met a 14-year-old girl online they then proceeded to send sundry lewd photos to before arranging a tryst at a local hotel. These short-eyed Romeos would show up at a said low-rent love nest pumped full of Viagra and equipped with sundry sex toys, only to learn their paramour was an overweight cop they'd been whippin' their skippies to while exchanging virtual pleasantries. These reprehensible gents all had done NOTHING to disguise themselves online, leading to the full weight of the law to fall on 'em, which was fine by me and my fellow jurors.

I am still agog that these wretched gents were unable to run a basic cost/benefit analysis: ten years of their life in a hellhole v. a night of sleazy pleasure at a run-down motel. The moral of the story, in other words, is that it seems it doesn't take much in the way of trolling to entice these child predators so this fellow who took things into his own hands probably didn't have to work particularly, ah, hard to lure one into his clutches. Oh, and that you probably shouldn't take a fistful of Viagra while involved in illegal activities as it will leave you looking pretty darn silly while trotting around handcuffed in a prison jumpsuit.
Title: Congressional aid not subject to any criminal charges
Post by: ccp on February 05, 2024, 07:23:03 AM
https://patriotpost.us/articles/104125-senate-staffer-avoids-punishment-with-rainbow-privilege-2024-02-05
Title: Re: Crime and punishment
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 05, 2024, 07:40:41 AM
"Oh, and that you probably shouldn't take a fistful of Viagra while involved in illegal activities as it will leave you looking pretty darn silly while trotting around handcuffed in a prison jumpsuit."

 :-D :-D :-D
Title: AMcC: Clarifies our understanding of bail in the Constitution and The Law
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 06, 2024, 04:43:23 PM


https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mob-illegal-immigrants-maul-cops-new-york-city-get-away-it

Here's how a mob of illegal immigrants can maul cops in New York City and get away with it
In New York City it is now routine to find high-flight-risk offenders released without conditions – and then to find that they flee, often after committing more crimes

By Andrew McCarthy Fox News
Published February 6, 2024 5:00am EST


Nothing is more perilous to the safety of a community than a prosecutor who won’t enforce the law. Yet, in New York, a close second-place goes to a "justice" system in which elected Democrats consciously undermine the community’s capacity to detain dangerous criminals.

If you’re wondering how it could be that a gang of illegal aliens is able to maul two New York City cops near Times Square in broad daylight and on video, consider the toxic combination of those two factors.

It is commonly although mistakenly believed that there is a right to bail – i.e., that a person who has been arrested is supposed to be released from custody pending trial. It is understandable that many of us are under this misimpression. After all, under constitutional due process principles, an accused is presumed innocent; and the Eighth Amendment speaks of setting bail.

But let’s look more carefully. What the amendment says is that "Excessive bail shall not be required." That does not mean bail must be set in every case. It means that in cases in which bail is set – i.e., in cases in which pretrial release is appropriate – the bail terms must not be set so high that a defendant could not possibly meet them.

If a person of sparse means is accused of a petty theft, it would be ridiculous to set bail at, say, $1 million; the accused doesn’t have those kinds of resources, or know people who have them and would be willing to post them on his behalf.

Yet, some crimes are sufficiently serious, and some defendants are so rootless in the jurisdiction where the crime took place, that bail should not be set. Plus, due process does not mean bail is required; it simply means bail may not be denied absent a fair legal process, after which the suspect may be detained. That doesn’t undermine the presumption of innocence; the presumption will still apply at trial, which is what it’s intended for.


Traditionally, the first inquiry in bail questions is risk of flight: What conditions are necessary to assure the court that the accused will show up for trial and other court proceedings? When a person is a just-arrived illegal alien who is video-recorded committing a serious crime, he should be detained as a flight risk. He has no roots in the community – indeed, his roots are in another country.


Moreover, under federal law he should already be detained because he is illegally present, which gives him an even more powerful incentive to flee if released. But of course, New York is a so-called "sanctuary city," which does not recognize and refuses to assist in the enforcement of federal immigration laws.

Karl Rove reacts to migrants accused of beating cops released without bail: 'So wrong on so many levels'Video
Plainly, New York is a slave to woke progressivism. What passes for logic in that ideology holds that, because non-white defendants are prosecuted at higher rates, the system must be inherently racist – it couldn’t possibly be that other groups offend at higher rates (as every objective study of crime data and crime-victim reporting proves). In New York, then, it is routine to find high-flight-risk offenders released without conditions – and then to find that they flee, often after committing more crimes.

Outside of a terrorist attack, there is no offense that more patently illustrates a person’s incorrigible dangerousness than attacks on police officers when they are in the act of carrying out their duties to protect the community and enforce its laws.

The second inquiry in setting bail is dangerousness. Here, the Empire State truly stands out. Throughout the United States, if prosecutors establish that no combination of conditions can satisfy the court that, if released, the accused will not imperil the community at large, including witnesses in his case, the court may detain the defendant pending trial. That is federal law. It is also the law in every state … except New York.


Think about it. Outside of a terrorist attack, there is no offense that more patently illustrates a person’s incorrigible dangerousness than attacks on police officers when they are in the act of carrying out their duties to protect the community and enforce its laws. Suspects who willfully attack armed police officers are not going to be restrained by bail conditions. Everywhere else in the country, such defendants are detained.

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But not in New York. In New York, judges are forbidden from taking into account that an accused’s criminal history and/or the nature of the crime he is credibly accused of committing render him unfit for release on bail conditions.

Even with New York’s asinine bail laws, there was plenty of basis to seek detention for the gang of illegal aliens that viciously beat the two cops last week. But it takes a prosecutor to make the case. District attorney Alvin Bragg is a progressive Democrat who resists prosecutions that would anger progressives – he’ll happily indict Donald Trump on a preposterous false business records case (and stack enough counts that Trump faces a potential of over a century in prison); but don’t ask him to seek bail for illegal aliens who beat up cops.


Note: After the public outrage over the release of the first five suspects without bail conditions, Bragg’s office did manage to have bail set on two others who are now detained pending further proceedings. It can be done. The prosecutor just has to be willing to prosecute.

The first five illegal-alien cop-beaters, who pranced out of court flipping their middle fingers at New Yorkers, have reportedly fled the jurisdiction. Good luck ever holding them accountable.

The middle finger is a sort of universal language. But in New York, where prosecutors and many judges are elected, it has a special meaning: Hey, why do you people keep voting for this?
Title: Guardian Angels in NYC
Post by: Crafty_Dog on February 07, 2024, 03:47:43 AM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/guardian-angels-go-full-vigilante-on-migrant-during-hannitys-fox-news-show?fbclid=IwAR3ko1xGCvJcxM7utVpzaWAXsgEGOdIaEZlF3aRP_nrwoh_lyDuQEnnhzxk
Title: Let me guess
Post by: ccp on April 10, 2024, 06:01:01 AM
this is either a white Jewish guy or an American Asian behind the hooded shirt.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nypd-commissioner-says-new-york-is-heading-in-right-direction-despite-high-profile-crimes/vi-BB1lmbbh?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=cd089d83d24e4580adc5b04f16e6b78b&ei=28
Title: Angst Re Biden’s Track Record on Sentencing Reform v. Trump’s
Post by: Body-by-Guinness on April 18, 2024, 04:39:02 AM
The ironies are delicious, particularly coming from CNN and its slanted perspective:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/26/opinions/biden-criminal-justice-trump-first-step-act-osler/index.html