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Politics & Religion / Re: Islam - Education, Rebuttals and Counter-Terror
« on: September 10, 2016, 11:07:11 AM »
Hello,
After some lengthy discussions and correspondence with Crafty Dog, I've been compelled (arm bar
) to post with respect to, primarily, Islamism, and generally, to world affairs. Retired after 30 years of experience in three fields of human study (psychiatry for 7 years, as an experiential therapist - fancy terminology for getting people to problem solve; and 23 years, law enforcement and military intelligence, special operations).
With respect to Islamism, I did a search with respect to Unconstrained Analytics - available here: http://unconstrainedanalytics.org/ Much of what Martel posted, with respect to the Quran and extra-Quranic texts has been handled marvelously by Stephen Coughlin and Patrick Poole on their site and in their books, particularly - Catastrophic Failure: http://unconstrainedanalytics.org/books/catastrophic-failure-blindfolding-america-in-the-face-of-jihad/
I found Martel's postings confirmed all of their conclusions (if not directly derivative from them).
I graduated from the Denial and Deception Advanced Studies Program at the National Intelligence University a year after Stephen Coughlin posted his thesis. Much of what he wrote about there is covered in Catastrophic Failure.
My thesis is classified and, though I have an FOIA release from the Pentagon for some of it, I am reluctant to publish 60 pages of a 112 page volume, when much of what I argued is readily apparent in many other, open source findings - mainly, that what we are up against in Islamism is nothing we have not faced in Communism and Nazism.
Bottom line - Islamism is a direct product of Islam, which, as a whole, is an all-encompassing ideology that is incompatible with Western notions of separation of church and state.
Keep it simple stupid - wherever Islam is in power, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia some form of Sharia ensues and quickly robs anyone else, not Muslim, from their rights, e.g. either through payment of Jizya, or, in constrictions of others rights to free speech (it is, for example, case for arrest for Christians to share their faith with others, outside of the church, in many of these states). Sharia varies from one Islamic culture to another, from Sunni and Shia to Sufism, for example, and therefore is not monolithic.
What is monolithic for Islam is its stated claim for absolute and final truth, contending the Bible as errant in its claim of primary and central importance, the sacrifice, death on the cross, and conquering of sin and death by Jesus Christ - something Muhammad argues as insupportable from the standpoint of Allah being - one god, not three, as Christianity argues - Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
This is the central point of argument to be had, with respect to Muslims and Christians entertaining HONEST dialogue.
Everything else is prologue.
Here is an interesting video from a former Muslim turned Christian, Nabeel Qureshi, who expounds on some important topics to consider, whenever debating Muslims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJTpFv4o7M
It also answers the question from agnostics, atheists, and others, outside of either faith, as to whether Muslims can, critically think through ideas they have been born into.
Nabeel Qureshi's answer, along with others who have turned away from Islam is - YES.
If you have not guessed by now, I am a non-denominational Christian and, YES, I would love for everyone to accept Jesus as their Savior.
HOWEVER, my beliefs in Jesus contrast greatly with altar boy raping priests, prosperity preachers, and other deceivers of many kinds who say they are Christian, but are as far away from what I believe a Christian to be.
I am a warrior/Christian - believing in Christophanies (https://faithbibleministriesblog.com/2012/05/24/the-preeminence-of-christ-part-8-christophanies-the-ot-appearances-of-jesus/).
I believe that Christ was there in front of Joshua, leading him into battle and, in Joshua 5:13-15, specifically told him, directly what to do concerning the Walls of Jericho.
Christ said to Joshua - "I am neither for nor against you, but as Commander of the Host of the Lord's Army..."
Christ violently threw the money-changers out of the temple.
The Jesus Christ I believe in is not the dope-smoking, turn-the-other-cheek, leftist, commie, Tolstoy version, liberals and progressives argue whenever they quote scripture.
WRONG!
Jesus Christ conquered sin and death and is the best alternative to any Muslim - moderate, extremist, jihadist, or simply entertaining the idea of Islam, as many in prisons do, for Islam is a cult of discipline, as Nabeel Qureshi so accurately points out.
Whereas, Christianity involves principles such as forgiveness - God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit conspired to create us, in their image, as the Genesis story points out - in plural form.
They were relational and created Heaven and Earth in order (cosmos means order, not chaos) that, humans - made in their image (relational), could populate and increase the love which the Trinity experienced. What is better, three beings or billions of beings, free to act and create, forever???
It came with a price though, for angels and humans share one thing - the propensity, in freedom, to rebel against the idea of whether God has our best interests.
Lucifer and a third of the angels thought and acted upon their belief, that they could know better than God.
Muhammad was certainly rebelling against the Christian concept of God in three persons, and arguably, did one of two things:
Either he simply made up the Quran; or, he was deluded from too many days in the hot sun, wearing a turbin, and actually, truly believed he was listening to an angel he called Gabriel.
The Jesus of the Quran and God in the Quran are mutually exclusive from those in the Bible, and are either patently false, constructed from Muhammad; or, delusions.
Why so quick and to the point???
I agree with Martel - that we are beyond chit chat and non-violent means and measures.
On the other hand, I understand where people like Nabeel Qureshi are coming from - for it is very Christian to say and argue, even by quoting scripture, that God is as he says he is, in 2 Peter 3:9: "The Lord is not slow about his promise, as some people understand slowness, but is being patient with you. He does not want anyone to perish, but wants everyone to repent."
Meanwhile, China watches Western atheists, agnostics, believers of many kinds, from all walks of life outside of China, and wonders - "when will we, the meek, inherit the earth?" Their way of thinking goes beyond chess, to such things as the game of GO, and thinking along the lines of - "well, maybe not in our time, but in our grandchildren's, grand child's time..."
You see, you cannot strategically consider all things, without considering those outside your own, particular, narrowed visions, which brings us to Boyd's Observe, Orient, Decide and Act - OODA Loop.
Teams I conducted strategic research with, over the years, were purposely comprised of analysts from very different backgrounds and yes, faiths - and I consider atheism a faith, for they have not proven God dead, as some of them have contended.
What matters is what happens, more so than what is believed to be happening.
It does not matter, for example, whether people believer Putin is old KGB and cannot shed his stripes. What matters, in fact, is whether the cards he has been playing line up with cards revealed (such as Mitrokhin's archives revealed: https://plus.google.com/110005138153908277516/posts/S6hMNtr3f9e).
The KEY point of understanding both World War I and II is something which, to this day, Putin will not concede - that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was Russian propaganda and that it Blew Back on them, when Hitler ate it whole, as truth (to include the Mufti of Palestine). Operation Barbarossa is an irony in that the same fervor which fueled pogroms against the Jews in Czar Nicholas II's time, helped create Nazism and Hitler's Mien Kampf.
Take, for example, Hitler mentioning Henry Ford then, watch this, revealing Ford acting on The Protocols - as fact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pgV0ehidyo
Comprehensively and absolutely, Putin is playing Islamist hatred of the Jews and antipathy towards the West as a fine honed, two-edged sword:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/110005138153908277516/posts/fc4nyDqfQBg
I told Crafty Dog that I would not be posting here often because I am working on an open source, unclassified, dissertation, which, summarily, is much represented here and boils down to one thing:
Without incorporating religious understandings into war-gaming analysis, you will fail to see how it can be used as, both a weapon and salve.
I am not religious, as said before, I hold little accord with any established Christian churches nowadays, though I recommend Charles Stanley and Ravi Zaccharias as mostly representative of what I believe.
The tidal wave of Islamism is both crashing forward on its own, as well as being given a huge push by Putin and others - these are undeniable facts.
Obama's failed Countering Violent Extremism approach is coming to an end and, under Trump, may, hopefully, be consigned to the trash bin. Its replacement must involve much of what I have just argued; otherwise, we'll continue to be played by both Russia and China, and overrun by Islamists, acting on their own, as Europe already has.
If Hillary wins, I'll be in Texas, waiting and contributing to TEXIT.
After some lengthy discussions and correspondence with Crafty Dog, I've been compelled (arm bar
) to post with respect to, primarily, Islamism, and generally, to world affairs. Retired after 30 years of experience in three fields of human study (psychiatry for 7 years, as an experiential therapist - fancy terminology for getting people to problem solve; and 23 years, law enforcement and military intelligence, special operations). With respect to Islamism, I did a search with respect to Unconstrained Analytics - available here: http://unconstrainedanalytics.org/ Much of what Martel posted, with respect to the Quran and extra-Quranic texts has been handled marvelously by Stephen Coughlin and Patrick Poole on their site and in their books, particularly - Catastrophic Failure: http://unconstrainedanalytics.org/books/catastrophic-failure-blindfolding-america-in-the-face-of-jihad/
I found Martel's postings confirmed all of their conclusions (if not directly derivative from them).
I graduated from the Denial and Deception Advanced Studies Program at the National Intelligence University a year after Stephen Coughlin posted his thesis. Much of what he wrote about there is covered in Catastrophic Failure.
My thesis is classified and, though I have an FOIA release from the Pentagon for some of it, I am reluctant to publish 60 pages of a 112 page volume, when much of what I argued is readily apparent in many other, open source findings - mainly, that what we are up against in Islamism is nothing we have not faced in Communism and Nazism.
Bottom line - Islamism is a direct product of Islam, which, as a whole, is an all-encompassing ideology that is incompatible with Western notions of separation of church and state.
Keep it simple stupid - wherever Islam is in power, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia some form of Sharia ensues and quickly robs anyone else, not Muslim, from their rights, e.g. either through payment of Jizya, or, in constrictions of others rights to free speech (it is, for example, case for arrest for Christians to share their faith with others, outside of the church, in many of these states). Sharia varies from one Islamic culture to another, from Sunni and Shia to Sufism, for example, and therefore is not monolithic.
What is monolithic for Islam is its stated claim for absolute and final truth, contending the Bible as errant in its claim of primary and central importance, the sacrifice, death on the cross, and conquering of sin and death by Jesus Christ - something Muhammad argues as insupportable from the standpoint of Allah being - one god, not three, as Christianity argues - Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
This is the central point of argument to be had, with respect to Muslims and Christians entertaining HONEST dialogue.
Everything else is prologue.
Here is an interesting video from a former Muslim turned Christian, Nabeel Qureshi, who expounds on some important topics to consider, whenever debating Muslims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJTpFv4o7M
It also answers the question from agnostics, atheists, and others, outside of either faith, as to whether Muslims can, critically think through ideas they have been born into.
Nabeel Qureshi's answer, along with others who have turned away from Islam is - YES.
If you have not guessed by now, I am a non-denominational Christian and, YES, I would love for everyone to accept Jesus as their Savior.
HOWEVER, my beliefs in Jesus contrast greatly with altar boy raping priests, prosperity preachers, and other deceivers of many kinds who say they are Christian, but are as far away from what I believe a Christian to be.
I am a warrior/Christian - believing in Christophanies (https://faithbibleministriesblog.com/2012/05/24/the-preeminence-of-christ-part-8-christophanies-the-ot-appearances-of-jesus/).
I believe that Christ was there in front of Joshua, leading him into battle and, in Joshua 5:13-15, specifically told him, directly what to do concerning the Walls of Jericho.
Christ said to Joshua - "I am neither for nor against you, but as Commander of the Host of the Lord's Army..."
Christ violently threw the money-changers out of the temple.
The Jesus Christ I believe in is not the dope-smoking, turn-the-other-cheek, leftist, commie, Tolstoy version, liberals and progressives argue whenever they quote scripture.
WRONG!
Jesus Christ conquered sin and death and is the best alternative to any Muslim - moderate, extremist, jihadist, or simply entertaining the idea of Islam, as many in prisons do, for Islam is a cult of discipline, as Nabeel Qureshi so accurately points out.
Whereas, Christianity involves principles such as forgiveness - God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit conspired to create us, in their image, as the Genesis story points out - in plural form.
They were relational and created Heaven and Earth in order (cosmos means order, not chaos) that, humans - made in their image (relational), could populate and increase the love which the Trinity experienced. What is better, three beings or billions of beings, free to act and create, forever???
It came with a price though, for angels and humans share one thing - the propensity, in freedom, to rebel against the idea of whether God has our best interests.
Lucifer and a third of the angels thought and acted upon their belief, that they could know better than God.
Muhammad was certainly rebelling against the Christian concept of God in three persons, and arguably, did one of two things:
Either he simply made up the Quran; or, he was deluded from too many days in the hot sun, wearing a turbin, and actually, truly believed he was listening to an angel he called Gabriel.
The Jesus of the Quran and God in the Quran are mutually exclusive from those in the Bible, and are either patently false, constructed from Muhammad; or, delusions.
Why so quick and to the point???
I agree with Martel - that we are beyond chit chat and non-violent means and measures.
On the other hand, I understand where people like Nabeel Qureshi are coming from - for it is very Christian to say and argue, even by quoting scripture, that God is as he says he is, in 2 Peter 3:9: "The Lord is not slow about his promise, as some people understand slowness, but is being patient with you. He does not want anyone to perish, but wants everyone to repent."
Meanwhile, China watches Western atheists, agnostics, believers of many kinds, from all walks of life outside of China, and wonders - "when will we, the meek, inherit the earth?" Their way of thinking goes beyond chess, to such things as the game of GO, and thinking along the lines of - "well, maybe not in our time, but in our grandchildren's, grand child's time..."
You see, you cannot strategically consider all things, without considering those outside your own, particular, narrowed visions, which brings us to Boyd's Observe, Orient, Decide and Act - OODA Loop.
Teams I conducted strategic research with, over the years, were purposely comprised of analysts from very different backgrounds and yes, faiths - and I consider atheism a faith, for they have not proven God dead, as some of them have contended.
What matters is what happens, more so than what is believed to be happening.
It does not matter, for example, whether people believer Putin is old KGB and cannot shed his stripes. What matters, in fact, is whether the cards he has been playing line up with cards revealed (such as Mitrokhin's archives revealed: https://plus.google.com/110005138153908277516/posts/S6hMNtr3f9e).
The KEY point of understanding both World War I and II is something which, to this day, Putin will not concede - that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was Russian propaganda and that it Blew Back on them, when Hitler ate it whole, as truth (to include the Mufti of Palestine). Operation Barbarossa is an irony in that the same fervor which fueled pogroms against the Jews in Czar Nicholas II's time, helped create Nazism and Hitler's Mien Kampf.
Take, for example, Hitler mentioning Henry Ford then, watch this, revealing Ford acting on The Protocols - as fact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pgV0ehidyo
Comprehensively and absolutely, Putin is playing Islamist hatred of the Jews and antipathy towards the West as a fine honed, two-edged sword:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/110005138153908277516/posts/fc4nyDqfQBg
I told Crafty Dog that I would not be posting here often because I am working on an open source, unclassified, dissertation, which, summarily, is much represented here and boils down to one thing:
Without incorporating religious understandings into war-gaming analysis, you will fail to see how it can be used as, both a weapon and salve.
I am not religious, as said before, I hold little accord with any established Christian churches nowadays, though I recommend Charles Stanley and Ravi Zaccharias as mostly representative of what I believe.
The tidal wave of Islamism is both crashing forward on its own, as well as being given a huge push by Putin and others - these are undeniable facts.
Obama's failed Countering Violent Extremism approach is coming to an end and, under Trump, may, hopefully, be consigned to the trash bin. Its replacement must involve much of what I have just argued; otherwise, we'll continue to be played by both Russia and China, and overrun by Islamists, acting on their own, as Europe already has.
If Hillary wins, I'll be in Texas, waiting and contributing to TEXIT.