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Politics & Religion / Invitation to dialog to Muslims
« on: July 01, 2006, 01:32:22 AM »
Quote from: tom guthrie
Sitbatan, I have a question for you.... Abraham had a son with the handmaid of Sarah (Hagar). The son was Ishmael.
Abraham was a Jew, Hagar was an Egyptian.
How do you feel about Ishmael being half Jew?
                                                TG


Hi TG,

Peace! From my knowledge the word Jew describes those descendents of the tribe of Judah...ie Jewish.  In the Prophet family tree, Judah, the son of Prophet Jacob (peace be upon him), was the Great, Great Grandson of Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him); so therefore Prophet Abraham couldn't be a Jew, nor could any of his sons (being Judah's Great Grandfathers).

Here is my reference...peace. http://www.isnacanada.com/prophets/

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Politics & Religion / Invitation to dialog to Muslims
« on: June 30, 2006, 12:09:12 AM »
Salam to all,

In reply to the ongoing Quoting of the Holy Quran, I have to say it is being interpreted out of context.  There are interpretations of the Holy Quran available and one can see that the revelations sent to Prophet Muhammad "Peace be Upon Him" by the ArchAngel Gabriel was during his struggle against the Pagan, Idol Worshippers of Mecca hundreds of years ago to re-establish the original religion "One God" of the Prophet Abraham, which was forgotten and replaced with the Pagan religions of thousands of gods, goddesses, godlings...etc.

That black stone square building you see them circling during the pilgrimage is the First house of Worship built by prophet Adam "peace be upon him" and then destroyed in the time of Prophet Noah by the flood. It was rebuilt in the time of Prophet Abraham by prophet Abraham and his son Ismael.

For more info on Islam check out http://www.islam101.com/

Peace and God Bless. Sitbatan

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Politics & Religion / Invitation to dialog to Muslims
« on: June 23, 2006, 12:13:32 AM »
Salam to all,

Obviously there is an anger towards us mainstream, complacent muslims that we aren't doing enough to thwart terrorism, banditry, criminals, and Piracy.

Here is my personal Condemnation to those bad elements of our society....i.e. terrorism, banditry, criminals, and Piracy....rapists, thugs, drug dealers, Bad dudes.....I condem you and I support the Established Authories to stop them by paying my governments imposed taxes that finance the local police, soldiers...etc. etc.

There now... is that enough?  BTW if I hear about any Terrorist I'll call the Cops... any plots I hear ... I'll call the police.  OK, is that ok?

By paying my taxes, I give the power of the money to buy bullets to put in Cops guns, who are specifically trained to fight the bad dudes... not the regular citizen.  I personally don't own a gun... I do have a stick....Do you want me to stop the gangsters, thugs, drug dealers with my stick? Or should I fight the terrorist and kidnappers with my stick too?

Peace and God bless.... BTW I surfed on this... check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQod2Ih_IEg

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Politics & Religion / Invitation to dialog to Muslims
« on: June 22, 2006, 07:06:22 AM »
Salam to all,

My friend please tell me what to do?....  I understand it is a "Generalization Post" and I am listening.  I am from the so-called complacent, mind my own business, and working hard to put food on the table common muslims.  I am open minded...please let me know.  If I get up 5am and work until night, should I go outside and tell the local thugs to behave?  How about on my day off should I attend anti-terrorist / crime rally?  How about after a grueling day of work and raising a family, should I go do a citizen's arrest of some local criminals??

.........would you?

That's why there are local and international PROFESSIONAL institutions to handle this... ie, Police, Soldiers, Government Agencies...FBI, CIA...etc.

It's easy to generalize and point the finger, but hard to do what you are saying I should do.  I personally don't know any terrorists....and if there were some in the community, I don't think they would tell me.

.........Do you know any?...personally?

Maybe it's my fault for minding my own business and worrying about the rent.  Maybe all the hard-working muslims should quit their jobs and worry about politics....who cares if we don't eat dinner? who cares if the kids don't have clothes on their back, food in their belly? ....of course us parents, regardless of Creed.

O well, I'm waiting for a realistic, practical reply.... peace and God Bless.

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Politics & Religion / Invitation to dialog to Muslims
« on: June 20, 2006, 10:02:52 PM »
Salam to all:

As much as I would like to tell the bad guys / terrorists, pirates, criminals to stop what they are doing...as some of the people here are telling us to do, I don't personally know of any...as many other regular muslims or any regular / common people don't associate with people outside their social circle.

It is the responsibility of the Governments local and international to handle this, not the common citizen.  I express my support, but as an individual Father, working to put food on the table, and raise my children who are innocent to the world.....please tell me what can i do??

Protest? I am not an activist...

Most common muslims have about as much contact with these Terrorists, Criminals, and Bandits...as let's say a hard-working whtie American family to the KKK, or hard-working Catholic Latino family to the Latin Drug Lords of south america... you see?

I am part of the mainstream muslims you see around you... work, work, mind my own business, and live. I dress contemporary and my religion is personal.  The media shows the Extreme of everything... extreme sells, common is boring... just learn to see what is behind what is front of you....war is deception.

Peace and God Bless... Sitbatan.

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Politics & Religion / Invitation to dialog to Muslims
« on: June 16, 2006, 12:26:59 AM »
True true... we are all the same, just don't believe the hype.

Peace and God Bless. Sitbatan

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Politics & Religion / Invitation to dialog to Muslims
« on: June 15, 2006, 06:38:17 AM »
Salam to all,

Actually the truth is alot of us muslims who attend the Sabbath or "Church Service" are only there half asleep thinking about other than what the preacher "imam" is preaching about...  And most of the time the topic is about stuff only a Religiously learned person can understand....ie not the majority of attendees.  

Do not think that because one is a muslim that he is religious...it is an individual thing.... most are not.  

Believe me these extremists are not the majority of us...like the majority of White people are not nazis and the majority of blacks are not gang members.  The media has alot to do with stereotyping.

Just some things to ponder on... peace.

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Politics & Religion / Invitation to dialog to Muslims
« on: June 12, 2006, 11:29:57 PM »
Salam XtremeKali

Yes the peace loving muslims are mostly overshadowed by extremist because like me.... I am busy working full-time teaching FMA / self-defense and running a school with children and busy raising my own family.  I have no time for politics or thinking of anything but my familie's welfare.

I believe the extremists are mostly young men, full of testosterone, and are gung-ho....invincible because they have no responsibility.

Believe me most Muslims are like me....busy, busy in business, work, or school.

I'm sorry but can you influence the local thugs? I can't either...it is the job of the police.  As far as Criminals, Terrorists, or Pirates... the Government is responsible to stop them...as a citizen with all my busy, busy self...what can I do?? even my fellow muslim... tell me what can I do??

It all falls down to the Governments they have to deal with it...set up laws and enforce them.  My duty as a Muslim is Pray, Pay taxes, and Raise my kids well...like most human beings regardless.

Peace and God Bless

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Politics & Religion / Invitation to dialog to Muslims
« on: June 12, 2006, 07:03:47 AM »
Yes Guro Crafty the ARMM (Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao) like Indian Reservations in the USA... we have our own Military or Militia that dresses like that... they are our protection from vigilantes and our moro country's self-defense....like Moro Police...they only stay in our area.


 Check out http://www.freewebs.com/tausugchat/  or  http://bangsamoro.com/.

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Politics & Religion / Invitation to dialog to Muslims
« on: June 11, 2006, 10:36:17 PM »
Salam to All,

The terrorists, murderers, and criminals must be brought to justice.  

I can only speak from my understanding, from what I see that target you are shooting is dressed like the Moro freedom fighters here in southern Philippines.  It is a very common sight here to see that, like seeing a police officer or someone of authority in the west.

To you I guess it represents something else... 9-11 or AQ.

There are two sides to each story and we are on opposite sides of the earth.   What we do share is love for the FMA and as long as you love the FMA... I will continue to be your brother in the Art.

Peace and God Bless.

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Politics & Religion / Salam Guro Crafty
« on: June 11, 2006, 08:59:46 AM »
Salam to all,

Since I guess I opened pandora's box.... I will take full responsibility for my response... this does not reflect the sentiments or thinking of other muslims....only my view.

As for terrorists, criminals, pirates....they should recieve all that is coming to them...inshallah...God-willing....and God is the best of Judges.

As for the DBMA... I'm all for it. It is a positive in the FMA family.

As for using muslim looking target dummies... I guess I can only control my actions and it is beyond my control.  I cannot and will not infringe on your freedom to shoot muslim looking paper targets.

 I have taught White, Christian Foreigners (although many muslim teachers will not share their art with foreigners) and they all seemed very nice and courteous.  I have not discriminated against them and I have taught them like my own kin.  I just hope my kindness will not go in vain and those techniques return to my descendents as punishment...warwok.

Peace to all and God Bless..Sitbatan

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