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Re: Skeptics live greener lives
« Reply #200 on: October 16, 2018, 02:50:23 PM »
https://principia-scientific.org/study-climate-skeptics-more-eco-friendly-than-alarmists/

It is important IMHO to see this go from anecdotal to well studied.  The UN IPCC people and the Paris Accords people and the liberal politicians liberal elites all can't wait to get on a global tour jet to get to a podium and tell us how evil it is to do what they do.  Have any of these people heard of Skype?!

I'm quite proud of my own energy frugality, no home AC use in 20 years, near zero summer electric use, my second to the most efficient car is a Prius, I have solar and wind powered boats, and if someone leaves the milk out overnight in the winter, it's still cold in the morning.  When I go a rare, full day without driving I realize I didn't get anything noteworthy done that day.

One day I was arguing climate crap with a liberal friend after sports over beers, we agreed to disagree and headed out to our cars that happened to be parked next to each other.  I got into my del sol at the time and he into his Chevy Suburban.  He was embarrassed and started to make his excuses, he needs to carry stuff up to the lake etc.  Yeah, whatever, but you want to rule my life without my consent.

Government one size fits all regulations like 55 mph to drive across Montana or Texas don't fit all perfectly, do they?

Note also that alarmists tend to also oppose nuclear power generation, the only massive energy source known that happens to be carbon free. 

Talk is cheap.  Crisis? What crisis?

It's not about protecting the environment, it's about controlling us.

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Re: Politically (In)correct
« Reply #202 on: April 24, 2023, 07:33:29 AM »
I have not been a big fan of "hate crime"

but , yes, this is by legal definition a "hate crime"
if you ask me.

clearly anti semitic, clearly being taken advantage of due to his autism and he wears a kippah

if you prefer "scratched" rather then "carved" ok with me

with either adjective this is outrageous to me


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Re: Politically (In)correct
« Reply #203 on: April 24, 2023, 07:37:25 AM »
I have not been a big fan of "hate crime"

but , yes, this is by legal definition a "hate crime"
if you ask me.

clearly anti semitic, clearly being taken advantage of due to his autism and he wears a kippah

if you prefer "scratched" rather then "carved" ok with me

with either adjective this is outrageous to me

https://news.northeastern.edu/2022/01/04/why-fake-a-hate-crime/

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Re: Politically (In)correct
« Reply #204 on: April 24, 2023, 07:47:07 AM »
are you saying you think this is made up?
could be , but I don't think it likely
pretty weird to make this up and remove child from the school


and using Smollett is an interesting example to use
since he has been discredited and totally lost any credibility.

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Re: Politically (In)correct
« Reply #205 on: April 24, 2023, 07:57:06 AM »
No other documented physical trauma aside from the "carving"? What is a viable scenario consistent with what is known? Multiple subject pin the victim down, expose the back of the victim and inflict the "carving" cleanly?

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/a-media-controversy-ignites-over-the-case-of-tawana-brawley

are you saying you think this is made up?
could be , but I don't think it likely
pretty weird to make this up and remove child from the school


and using Smollett is an interesting example to use
since he has been discredited and totally lost any credibility.

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Re: Politically (In)correct
« Reply #206 on: April 24, 2023, 08:08:43 AM »
so yes, you are saying you conclude this is made up


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Re: Politically (In)correct
« Reply #207 on: April 24, 2023, 08:34:13 AM »
so yes, you are saying you conclude this is made up

Based on the information currently available, it sure looks like a staged crime. If the victim had been beaten to a bloody pulp, then you’d need to determine if the suspects knew what the kippa meant.

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Re: Politically (In)correct
« Reply #208 on: April 24, 2023, 09:19:39 AM »
I think most people know full well that a kippah is worn by some Jews.

if we see a lawsuit asking for much money then the possibility of this being made up
seem higher to me

or could it just be a scratch that is mostly in shape of swastika by chance and mother is inadvertently wrong
maybe


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Re: Politically (In)correct
« Reply #209 on: April 24, 2023, 09:23:40 AM »
I think most people know full well that a kippah is worn by some Jews.

if we see a lawsuit asking for much money then the possibility of this being made up
seem higher to me

or could it just be a scratch that is mostly in shape of swastika by chance and mother is inadvertently wrong
maybe

In the NE US it’s common knowledge, in other parts not so much.

The mother or another caregiver would be my primary suspect pool.

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« Reply #210 on: November 12, 2024, 07:15:55 PM »
The Economics of Political Correctness
Scholars need incentives to tell the truth, not to hide it and promote socially acceptable ideas.
By Roland Fryer
Nov. 11, 2024 at 2:01 pm ET

Harvard economist Roland Fryer argues that fear of giving offense hinders scientific progress. Photo: Free to Choose Network
One morning, chatting with Harvard undergraduates just before my class, I reminisced about my own college years in the late 1990s—debating religion in our residence hall or arguing about the role of discrimination in America in common rooms.

Those conversations were uncomfortable and even heated at times. But they were positive experiences for me and I’m pretty sure everyone else. Grappling with different views helped us understand one another, and that helped me understand, and sometimes change, my own outlook.

I asked a student in the front row: With all this technology and social media, where do you have these types of conversations? She looked up from her turquoise notebook and replied: “We don’t.” I looked around the amphitheater and asked, “Really?” A hundred heads nodded in unison.

I thought they were exaggerating until a student in another class dared to ask if racial disparities are due to systemic racism or differences in work ethic. He happens to be black and from a disadvantaged background, and he earnestly wondered why, in his neighborhood growing up, it seemed to him that black immigrants worked harder than American-born blacks. A white woman a couple of rows behind him called him a “white supremacist.”

If my dorm-mates and I had the threat of academic censure hanging over our heads back then, would we have been as forthcoming with each other? I’d like to think so, but I doubt it. We weren’t courageous; we lived in a world where the cost of information was higher and the cost of asking the “wrong” question was essentially zero, so debate was an efficient way to learn.

In my college dorm’s common room, I met an Indian woman who thought arranged marriage made more sense than dating. I found her arguments baffling for the obvious reasons—and besides, economists typically think more choice leads to better outcomes. She didn’t question my motives for asking; she simply pulled out data on divorce rates across the two continents to prove her point. That common room was the first place I debated chapters of the Bible with an atheist. The first time I had a chance to ask delicate questions of a gay man about his experiences.

A decade ago, I still interacted with dozens of undergraduates and doctoral students who were asking important and provocative questions about race and sex in America. But now students invite me to lunch and ask if their research idea is too risky; they wonder out loud what they are allowed to “say in public,” as though they are in the situation room discussing nuclear launch strategy rather than pondering the economics of policing in an overpriced cafe.

Some are turning to an app called Sidechat, where they can frankly debate others in the Harvard community without revealing their names. It’s good that these conversations are happening somewhere; it’s distressing that they require a veil of anonymity.

The issue affects research in economics, hardly known for its far-left politics. When I used artificial intelligence to evaluate all the race- and sex-related papers published in the top six econ journals since 2006, asking the algorithm to score how liberal or conservative the conclusions leaned, I found a more than 2-to-1 leftward tilt overall.

There were particularly big gaps in the late Obama years and the early 2020s. Did empirical output lean particularly to the left at those times, or were political-correctness pressures especially strong?

Realistically, either journal editors are refusing to publish controversial results, or academics are too cowardly even to do the research. One notable exception—a recent American Economic Review paper finding that children’s academic outcomes improve when parents are incarcerated—met with censorious derision from others in the field on social media. My own work on race and policing, which was published in a top peer-reviewed journal in economics, was labeled “hate speech” by (pre-Elon Musk) Twitter.

Even if stone cold economists have fallen prey to self-censorship, economics can tell us why. A brilliant analysis by Stephen Morris—a formalization of early ideas developed by Glenn Loury—develops the basic economics of political correctness. Here is an example:

Suppose there is an informed professor advising a less informed politician as to whether diversity, equity, and inclusion policies help minorities. If the professor says DEI is harmful, the politician might interpret the recommendation as the honest findings of an unbiased researcher. But he also might interpret it as the motivated reasoning of a racist, and might even stop asking the professor for advice.

Mr. Morris demonstrates mathematically that if the professor is sufficiently concerned about being thought a racist, he will lie and recommend DEI even when he knows it’s a bad idea for minorities. And if he does tell the truth, his advice may come across as tainted by bias. The implications are unsettling for anyone trying to make decisions based on academics’ recommendations.

A similar dynamic is at play on any socially sensitive topic, and social media turbocharges it. Online activists have major incentives to call out even obscure academic work they deem beyond the pale; doing so can help them shore up their own progressive bona fides and build their followings. And there are few penalties for misconstruing the target’s argument or being plain wrong.

The question is what can be done. First, we need to take a careful look at how we hire and promote faculty. Instead of having them sign statements swearing fealty to DEI, perhaps they should promise to tell the truth. Second, we need high-powered incentives for people who are correct regardless of politics. If someone scientifically demonstrates that systemic racism is the main factor in racial disparities in America, this should be celebrated. If someone finds that health disparities are driven by genetics rather than social factors—that too should be celebrated. We need something like the MacArthur Fellowship or the X Prize for telling the truth about data.

I am gravely concerned about the rise of political correctness on college campuses, its effect on the type of analysis that is being published and being taught, and how this will undermine, among many other things, efforts to help the marginalized in America. Such efforts will succeed only if they are rooted in the truth.

Mr. Fryer, a Journal contributor, is a professor of economics at Harvard, a founder of Equal Opportunity Ventures and a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.