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erasing Anne Frank
« Reply #1000 on: November 07, 2023, 11:26:03 AM »
This belongs under anti semitism thread
not social Justice warriors

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/erasing-the-name-of-anne-frank-shows-the-threat-to-jews-today/ar-AA1jxKSW?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=03ddde09b0854212b6525ab1af63efbe&ei=6

so invoking the memory of a holocaust victim is political and offensive ? !  :x

if so I don't EVER want to hear the name of George Floyd again
or Malcolm X
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anti semitism in Europe
« Reply #1001 on: November 08, 2023, 08:37:28 AM »
wherever the Muslims move they bring their hatred for Jews (and Western) with them:

the new Nazis:

https://news.yahoo.com/hardly-taboos-left-anti-semitism-070923420.html


I thought anti-semitism was illegal in Germany?

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/germanys-laws-antisemitic-hate-speech-nazi-propaganda-holocaust-denial/


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What now?
« Reply #1002 on: November 08, 2023, 11:40:32 AM »
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/what-now

https://news.yahoo.com/hardly-taboos-left-anti-semitism-070923420.html

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/germanys-laws-antisemitic-hate-speech-nazi-propaganda-holocaust-denial/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqzdnPjPhW0     Britain

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Media downplays the killing of a Jew in California: Perhaps Joe Biden and his fellow Democrats were too busy rooting out "Islamic-phobia" to notice, but a 69-year-old Jewish man was pogromed to death following an "altercation" with a pro-Palestinian thug at a Sunday afternoon rally in the LA suburb of Thousand Oaks. As Fox News reports, Kessler got into a "physical altercation" during which he "fell backwards and struck his head on the ground," the Ventura County Sheriff's Department said in a statement that added the medical examiner's office "determined the cause of death to be blunt force head injury and the manner of death homicide." Homicide indeed. But get a load of this mealy-mouth, passive-voice, politically correct headline from NBC News: "Man dies after hitting head during Israel and Palestinian rallies in California, officials say." What would we do without "officials"? Did Kessler hit himself in the head? Did he bump into a light pole? The headline doesn't say. As it turns out, he was smashed in the head with a megaphone by an as-yet unnamed 50-year-old assailant. And we wonder: Had the roles been reversed and a pro-Israel protester had offed a pro-Palestine protester, would the media be hiding the identity of the killer? We suspect not.

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Another lib UK newspaper
« Reply #1005 on: November 09, 2023, 08:24:37 AM »
links hate crimes against both Jews and Muslims read the headlines

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hate-crimes-against-jewish-and-muslim-new-yorkers-surge-by-135/ss-AA1jEQ89?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=2fb14db2cb0c4de880600d12c4a24c5c&ei=14

but then later on 69 against Jews 8 against Muslims


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we support you till we don't
« Reply #1008 on: November 11, 2023, 06:13:02 AM »
And this from Blinks/Biden/Obama:

"America has issued its strongest condemnation of Israel's war in Gaza yet as US Secretary of State Antony Blinken declared that 'far too many Palestinians have been killed'."

the Palestinian WH demonstration worked .


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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1009 on: November 11, 2023, 06:22:02 AM »
Apparently, the desk jockeys in the State Dept are all wound up about the Gazan death toll threatening to resign blah blah.

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why are Jews so wedded to the DNC?
« Reply #1010 on: November 14, 2023, 07:58:06 AM »
interesting take with a new angle :

seems to put more emphasis on separating Church and State in the Constitution.
Interesting the article participant points out the Jewish voting pattern for Democrats increased from 2/3 to 3/4 in the 60s when evangelicals took over the Republican party as its' "base". 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/03/24/why-most-american-jews-vote-for-democrats-explained/

For sure there was a lot of anti-semitism among Christians - I believe mostly in the past. 

Jews were barred from higher education as much as possible certain clubs etc.
and seemed to viewed with suspicion.

Also they were taught the Jews killed Jesus in Catholic schools I remember.  We were taught in Hebrew schools that this was not fair - it was the Romans who killed Jesus

though I am of the understanding the ancient Jews were suspicious of Jesus and probably did not mind Romans killing him (from what I can tell).

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NY Social Media surveillance, more
« Reply #1011 on: November 14, 2023, 01:21:25 PM »
   
 
NY GOV ANNOUNCES SOCIAL MEDIA SURVEILLANCE CAMPAIGN… Hochul Says NY Is Conducting Social Media ‘Surveillance Efforts’ To Monitor ‘Hate Speech’ (VIDEO)

Democratic New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said Monday that the state is “very focused” on collecting data from social media platforms as part of an effort to counter online “negativity” and “hate speech” after a rise in antisemitic attacks.

Following a meeting with the state’s Jewish leaders, local law enforcement and federal authorities, Hochul spoke to the media to discuss the state’s efforts to combat hate crimes.

“It’s painful to me as the governor of this great state — that has been known for its diversity, and how we celebrate different cultures, different religions, different viewpoints — it’s painful to see the cruelty with which New Yorkers are treating each other. Everywhere from college campuses, to our streets, to schools, to playgrounds; even as they’re entering their houses of worship,” Hochul said, noting that she “immediately deployed the State Police to protect our synagogues and yeshivas and mosques and any other place that could be susceptible to hate crimes or violence.” […]

The New York governor went on to detail the state’s plan “to catch incitement to violence” and “direct threats to others” by monitoring social media activity.

“We’re very focused on the data we’re collecting from surveillance efforts – what’s being said on social media platforms. And we have launched an effort to be able to counter some of the negativity and reach out to people when we see hate speech being spoken about on online platforms,” Hochul said, insisting that no New Yorker “should feel they have to hide any indications of what their religious beliefs are.”

 

ALAN DERSHOWITZ: Does The First Amendment Protect Anti-Israel Protests?

This line is anything but clear. As Oliver Wendell Holmes put it a century ago: “Every idea is an incitement.” Yet the courts have tried — not always successfully — to distinguish between advocacy and incitement, without favoring some ideas over others.

As the Supreme Court put it in 1990: “Under the First Amendment there is no such thing as a false idea. However pernicious an opinion may seem, we depend for its correction not on the conscience of judges and juries, but on the competition of other ideas.”

Marxists can advocate illegal overthrow of the government by force and violence as long as they do not immediately incite such violence. Hamas supporters can call for the end of Israel, but they can’t incite an angry crowd to kill a specific Jew or Zionist.

 

KARINGE: DEMS HAVE ‘DISAGREEMENTS’ ON WHETHER ISRAEL SHOULD EXIST … ‘That’s The Way It Is’: KJP Dismisses Democrats’ Anti-Israel Rhetoric As ‘Range Of Agreements And Disagreements’ (VIDEO)

White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre dismissed Democrats’ anti-Israel rhetoric as a “range of agreements and disagreements” during Monday’s press briefing.

Daily Caller White House correspondent Reagan Reese asked whether far-left members of the Democratic Party breaking from President Joe Biden on Israel will drive a “wedge” within the party. Members of the party, notably Reps. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, have expressed solidarity with Palestine while condemning Israel as war rages between Israelis and Hamas, an Islamic terrorist group.

“A lot of Democrats, particularly in and around ‘The Squad’ have openly disagreed with the president for being too supportive of Israel. There’s also been some grassroots groups who’ve backed the president now indicating that this could be a deal breaker for them. Is the president worried that this will continue to be a wedge issue within the party, and why can’t he get his fellow Democrats on the same page?” Reese asked.

“So look. In our party, there’s going to be [a] various range of agreements and disagreements, and that’s the way it is, right?” the press secretary replied. “And particularly in the Democratic Party, the president is gonna continue to be clear about this. You heard it at the top when Jake Sullivan was giving an update on the Middle East where the president stands. The president has been very clear, and when it comes to Israel and what we saw on October 7, Israel has the right to defend itself. They have a right to defend itself.”

 

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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1012 on: November 14, 2023, 07:17:41 PM »
Apparently, the desk jockeys in the State Dept are all wound up about the Gazan death toll threatening to resign blah blah.

Jeepers, I sure hope they don’t toss us in that briar patch.

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VDH on Campus Antisemitism & Hypocrisy
« Reply #1013 on: November 14, 2023, 07:24:39 PM »
I’m 1/16 Jewish according to family legend as it was quite a scandal when my great great grandmother married a Jewish gent, while my wife is a Jew, albeit one that has never practiced. As such I get pretty freaking annoyed by antisemitism, particularly in higher ed where I work and where their self-perception is that they are on the side of all that is fair, noble, and anti-racist … except those freaking Jews that need to be driven into the sea. VDH castigates just that attitude here:

https://twitter.com/VDHanson/status/1724513817106022472?fbclid=IwAR1rR5677njdNc6swoTlWWrAIkvSCjs2qh3bQ0fKiozErdmpQTvPRioMB8E


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Musk recent comments
« Reply #1015 on: November 15, 2023, 07:02:54 PM »
https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/elon-musk-tries-to-backpedal-after-agreeing-with-anti-semitic-tweet-and-fails-spectacularly/

As a Jew I don't see this as anti semitic

I do see this as a criticism of the LEFT. progressive portion of Jews and their (hypocritical virtue signalling, (IMHO) phony politics.

I agree to some extent that left wing Jews have embraced BLM, mass immigration, 1619 project, DEI, and criticisms of the "West" which is mostly white,
they were stupid to think that would ingratiate them to all those around the world.

I mean the ADL has been a vehicle for the above.  Like Soros, like many of the Jewish politicians, those in media and in bureaucracies.

I have made this observation and made similar criticisms myself as those on the board know.

If Musk said Jews do not have right to Israel, if he said death to Jews etc
that would be a different story.

Of course the likes of Jake Tapper is insulted - he is an example of a liberal Democrat who embraces DNC Marxism.



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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1016 on: November 16, 2023, 06:26:55 AM »
Agree!

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Anti-Anti-semitism & Jews, the march on Washington, Video, Mijal Bitton
« Reply #1017 on: November 17, 2023, 06:53:17 AM »
Watch a 5 minute video for a sampling of the peaceful march on Washington:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/11/thought-for-the-day-34.php

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Tapper to Rasking : what about DNC hatred of Jews
« Reply #1018 on: November 20, 2023, 07:16:33 AM »
Raskin :

it is everywhere
then blame Kevin McCarthy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cnn-s-jake-tapper-confronts-jamie-raskin-about-protesters-outside-dnc-hq-there-s-anti-semitism-in-the-democratic-party-these-days/ar-AA1kc485?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=a2c0646f1a2a46c7a9bff5f7881e27f9&ei=11

this is a common last stand defense by libs when they are pushed in a debate into a corner:

EVERY DOES it not just the libs.............

Beyond they change the subject

The ~ 40 Jewish Dems :

The Democrat party stands with Israel they scream to preserve the Jewish vote

I am not sure they need to even do that since many if not most or even all Jewish Dems practice the DNC religion more than Judaism or anything else.

Dershowitz while clearly a rare and different breed still vocalizes he is a Democrat.




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Re: Tapper to Rasking : what about DNC hatred of Jews
« Reply #1019 on: November 20, 2023, 08:04:29 AM »
"Dershowitz while clearly a rare and different breed still vocalizes he is a Democrat."

I think he would even say he is a liberal Democrat.  That doesn't mean willing to abandon the rule of law.  Wish others had that integrity.

I believe both Victor Hanson Walter Russell Mead are Democrats as well.  Democrats from a different time, maybe like JFK or Henry Scoop Jackson.  That doesn't mean they are willing to jump to reckless endangerment of the American Creed just because their party did.
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LATIMES propaganda
« Reply #1020 on: November 20, 2023, 01:25:36 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-bidens-staunch-support-israels-110133194.html

I don't understand - the Hollywood Jews are so supportive of Blacks browns, immigrants, and all religions

how did this happen  ===>   :wink:

stop supporting the DNC you stooges!

listening Rob Reiner, Streissand, Speilberg, and the rest?

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This is exactly what I was afraid of/ in NC
« Reply #1021 on: November 21, 2023, 03:14:29 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/north-carolina-progressive-dem-says-allowing-jewish-caucus-would-end-the-party-they-control-everything/ar-AA1kjwu1

"the Jews control everything" says the NC Democrat pol

between shifty lawyers we see on the news day in and day out, between the zuckerbergs and soros throwing their money around trying to push their agendas on many people
for their own agendas.

of course many non Jews do the same thing
I don't know why we get so much resentment. Even from the Dems.

That said I don't see conservative Jews doing this.  Yes, we have the "great one" but he is working for freedom for our nation not against it, or us.

Only the politically hyperactive liberal ones causing resentment wrongly or right placed.

Is the problem us?



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Re: This is exactly what I was afraid of/ in NC
« Reply #1022 on: November 22, 2023, 06:11:54 AM »
The right to affiliate, associate, organize, (assemble), isn't that a higher right, a God given right, a constitutional right?

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Thomas Sowell on Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1023 on: November 23, 2023, 01:15:45 PM »

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WSJ: Why the Jewish Way of Living Matters
« Reply #1024 on: November 24, 2023, 07:16:52 AM »
Why the Jewish Way of Living Matters
Since living here, I’ve come to think of Israel as the moral capital of the West.
By Leon R. Kass
Nov. 23, 2023 12:15 pm ET



Why do Jewish lives matter? Why do we suddenly care so much about Israel or Jewish survival? Is it merely from a nativist love of our own or a need to deny posthumous victories to Hitler? Is it only the Jew as eternal victim that we cherish? God forbid. “Never again” is never enough. What matters are not only Jewish lives, but the Jewish way of living.

Jewish identity, purpose and meaning are highly contested notions, not least in Israel. The nation’s recent political battles have been about nothing less than the Jewishness of the Jewish state: whether and in what ways “startup nation” should remain the people of the book.

Yet both sides of these debates appeal to Jewish principles—the Israeli left to the prophets’ demands for justice and regard for the other, the Israeli right to the law’s concern with holiness. Beneath these differences are widely shared beliefs and values, also Torah-based: A cultural disposition to gratitude for the astonishing gift of life and world. A belief in the equal dignity of all human beings, each in the image of God. The duty to honor father and mother, the foundation of family life and cultural transmission. Reverence for life and limb, body and soul. Equality before the law. Commitment to care for widows, orphans and the poor. Humane treatment of the stranger. Moral seriousness: a felt need to give an account of one’s life, to practice atonement, to seek and offer forgiveness.

There is a more fundamental feature of the Jewish way of life, a chief reason why Jews are hated. We are summoned to bear witness against idolatry, that universal temptation to fill the God-shaped hole in our hearts with things that cannot satisfy and that invariably lead astray. Idolatry was once the worship of the sun, moon and Earth and the golden calf. In modern times, it has come in the diabolical form of ideology: national socialism, communism, Maoism and radical Islam, deadly false gods to which millions of innocent lives have been sacrificed. Idolatry also includes worship of the market, of art and culture, and of human choice and fiat as the sole source of value. Against these, the Jewish people bear witness to the presence of a higher power and source of goodness.

Although the Jewish people are few in number, they are of enormous consequence for the Western world. Ideas central to our civilization first entered through the Hebrew Bible: all men are created equal; respect for life; the Ten Commandments. America’s political ideas may come from Locke and Montesquieu—modern science and technology are largely of European and North American origins—but humanly, morally and religiously speaking, the West is a biblical civilization.

In this time of moral confusion and social fragmentation, Israel by its example has something to teach us. Since I started living long stretches here in 2016, I have increasingly felt it is the moral capital of the West.

Israel is the only Western country that lives with a vital devotion to its future. Alone in the developed world, it has a birthrate above replacement, with a low level of out-of-wedlock births. In my neighborhood in Washington, people have dogs; in my neighborhood in Jerusalem, people have children. Extended families are strong, tradition alive and rich. Most Israelis, religious or secular, have Shabbat dinner with their parents. The holy tongue is the vernacular; the calendar orders sacred time; ancestral ghosts walk the land; popular music expresses spiritual longings in biblical idiom. National service is the norm. Memorial Day is marked with ceremonies in every neighborhood and with a national minute of silence, as people and cars stop in place to pay respect for the fallen soldiers to whom we owe our freedom.

As the past several weeks have shown, Israeli national solidarity runs deep. Thousands have organized to provide for those in need. Haredi men are volunteering for the army; secular soldiers are requesting tzitzit. Hamas’s barbarism revealed one nation, indivisible: an island of cultural and moral sanity in a world gone mad.

In synagogues around the world last month, Jews read the weekly Torah portion “Lech Lecha,” or “Go Forth.” It recounts God’s call and promise to Abraham and his people, summoned to carry God’s chosen way of righteousness. That meant life against the wild and bloody ways of antediluvian man and the soulless ways of the builders of Babel; against the tyrannical and technocratic ways of pharaonic Egypt; against the licentious and child-sacrificing ways of the Canaanites. We Jews survived the Babylonians, Romans, crusades, inquisition, European expulsions, pogroms, Shoah, gulag and murderous attacks of the modern Middle East.

And here we are, warts and all, still doing battle against these enduring human tendencies and evils, still aspiring to realize our covenantal promise to become a kingdom of priests and a holy nation. We fall short, but we don’t abandon the summons. We continue to stand for creation against chaos, life against death, good against evil, meaning against nihilism. We still aspire to be a light unto the nations. With God’s help, we shall overcome.

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Leon Kass
« Reply #1025 on: November 24, 2023, 09:29:21 AM »
this paragragh stirred some thought in me:

" There is a more fundamental feature of the Jewish way of life, a chief reason why Jews are hated. We are summoned to bear witness against idolatry, that universal temptation to fill the God-shaped hole in our hearts with things that cannot satisfy and that invariably lead astray. Idolatry was once the worship of the sun, moon and Earth and the golden calf. In modern times, it has come in the diabolical form of ideology: national socialism, communism, Maoism and radical Islam, deadly false gods to which millions of innocent lives have been sacrificed. Idolatry also includes worship of the market, of art and culture, and of human choice and fiat as the sole source of value. Against these, the Jewish people bear witness to the presence of a higher power and source of goodness. "

I would add blind love for the Democrat Party is, in the context of the above definition, a form of idolatry.

I would not say the same for Democracy, or Conservatism, or capitalism,
because history has proved the inherently good outcomes for people, nations, civilizations. ("warts and all")

Is Trump a false God?
Perhaps he is somewhere in between worthy of both support and opposition.



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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1026 on: November 24, 2023, 12:20:36 PM »
"I would add blind love for the Democrat Party is, in the context of the above definition, a form of idolatry."

My mind organizes this a deal with the Devil to COERCE charity with the time and money of OTHERS.


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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1030 on: November 28, 2023, 03:01:33 PM »
great post!!!

I will share.

I never knew or realized Denis is Jewish wow -
I also did not know the founders appreciation of Jews.

But alas I still doubt Democrat wed Jews will suddenly change
they simply get more stubborn and twisted

look at Larry Lib who appears the same every time on TV dressed in black shirt and sports coat ( I am not sure if he is trying to emulate a Supreme Court Justice or a mafia hitman)
Raskin
Kruger
and the list goes on

Raskin on CNN giving show on how he loves the Constitution on same night Levin was on obvious as a counter
what a slap of our faces.

BTW I will add Prager to list of Jews whom I am proud of !





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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1031 on: November 28, 2023, 04:03:30 PM »
Glenn Beck had a major riff about the role of the Book of Moses on the Dec of Ind. and the C.  There is an important reference to/qote from?  the Book of Moses in Congressional chamber IIRC.  Can someone track this down?

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Schumer seems confused
« Reply #1032 on: November 30, 2023, 09:40:55 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/11/29/schumer-jews-threatened-left-wing-antisemitism/

why we voted with the immigrants LBTQ etc, minorities etc.

how come they don't live us

psst Jews are seen as successful

   it is called envy

what did you think moron
what is your response - ? 

DNC Jews will not switch parties

they will not stop the DEI craze, they will not stop immigration

they will not warm up to Republicans, to Christians etc
they will not call out anti Americanism
they will not call out anti Western civilizationism

they will not stop calling everything racist or "xenophobic" or Islamaphobic

and until they do
they get what they asked for in defending the above

I am not happy about it but just saying kind of Elon Musk recently said

My usual Dem Party does NOT mean you are safe

thinks harder Chuck ! et al.


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get on your knees and say you are sorry marguiles
« Reply #1034 on: December 03, 2023, 08:45:36 AM »
She said this: 
Margulies, who is Jewish, railed against support for Palestine, further saying Adolf Hitler “got his entire playbook from the Jim Crow South,” Margulies criticized the black community for not “embracing” Jews after “in the civil rights movement, the Jews were the ones that walked side by side with the blacks to fight for their rights.”

“The fact that the entire black community isn’t standing with us to me says either they just don’t know, or they’ve been brainwashed to hate Jews,” she added.


so she must say this or have your life ruined:

am horrified by the fact that statements I made on a recent podcast offended the Black and LGBTQIA+ communities, communities I truly love and respect.

I want to be 100% clear: Racism, homophobia, sexism, or any prejudice against anyone’s personal beliefs or identity are abhorrent to me, full stop. Throughout my career I have worked tirelessly to combat hate of all kind, end antisemitism, speak out against terrorist groups like Hamas, and forge a united front against discrimination.

I did not intend for my words to sow further division, for which I am sincerely apologetic.


https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/12/03/actress-julianna-margulies-apologizes-for-saying-entire-black-community-brainwashed-to-hate-jews/

funny how so many Lib Jews thought the minorities would stand with them in tough times.

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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1035 on: December 03, 2023, 09:01:55 AM »
Nation of Islam is illustrative of deep currents of anti-semitism in the black community for a long time.   With Obama, Clinton, and others rubbing elbows with Farrakhan none of what we see now should have surprised.

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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1036 on: December 03, 2023, 10:55:17 AM »
Below is a brilliant column by Daniel Greenfield regarding how American liberal Jews have forgotten how to fight leftist and Islamic Jew-hatred. It's a somewhat long read, but well-worth the time. His analysis of the situation is, as usual, superb.

American Jews Never Learned to Fight Leftist Jew-Hatred
And talking about ‘anti-Semitism’ is part of the problem.


December 1, 2023 by Daniel Greenfield

[Make sure to read Daniel Greenfield’s contributions in Jamie Glazov’s new book: Barack Obama’s True Legacy: How He Transformed America.]

After the Holocaust, the American Jewish community, like most liberals, reduced the mass murder of millions of Jews to a problem of intolerance and prejudice. A massive effort was undertaken to educate about what had happened rather than what was happening.

While the first Holocaust museums were being built, the persecution and killing of Jews had mostly shifted over to the Soviet Union and its allies in the Arab Muslim world. American Jews failed to grapple with this shift much as they failed to come to terms with the reality that black nationalist groups were quickly eclipsing the KKK when it came to the domestic hatred of Jews.

These are the key ingredients that led to the current open climate of Jew-hatred in America.

Instead of talking about what the hatred of Jews looked like today, American Jewish liberals insisted on dwelling on what it had looked like decades earlier in America and in Europe. Like the generals who are always refighting yesterday’s war, they were not dealing with the present.

They relied heavily on “antisemitism”: a term invented in the 19th century by a German socialist bigot, Wilhelm Marr, to emphasize the race of the Jews. But post-Holocaust hatred of Jews on the Left was more often cultural than racial. Karl Marx, the progenitor of Marxism, had been of Jewish descent from a Christian family, and had spread poisonous antisemitic venom. Lenin, who had one Jewish grandfather, oversaw the oppression of Jews while denying they were a distinct people. The Soviet expectation was that the Jews would disappear as a people, but, aside from Stalin’s final years, avoided any plans for the racial extermination of the Jews.

The Marxist and the Islamic position, unlike the Nazi racial position, did not require the physical extermination of the Jews at a genetic level, only a cultural genocide. Jews would be allowed to exist under Communism or Islam, as long as they abandoned their religion and national identity. The liberal focus on fighting racial antisemitism left it unprepared to fight such cultural hatred.

Even though the Soviet persecution of the Jews as a people had been underway for generations, American liberal Jews never developed a vocabulary for describing it. Or showed much particular interest in it until a new generation of young activists in the USSR and America finally made it a burning issue that rose to national and international attention in the 1970s.

The Communist persecution of Jews was manifested in many of the same ways as the contemporary leftist hatred of Jews. The party and the regime claimed to oppose ‘antisemitism’, even passed laws banning it, while suppressing Judaism and Zionism as ‘reactionary’ and ‘nationalistic’. The Soviet Union could point to examples of high-ranking Jewish figures who had rejected Zionism and Judaism, and represented the Communist ideal for the Jews.

As Lenin put it, “whoever, directly or indirectly, puts forward the slogan of Jewish national culture is (whatever his good intentions may be) an enemy of the proletariat… he is an accomplice of the rabbis and the bourgeoisie… on the other hand, those Jewish Marxists who mingle with the Russian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian and other workers in international Marxist organizations, and make their contribution… towards creating the international culture of the working-class movement… uphold the best traditions of Jewry by fighting the slogan of ‘national culture.’”

Jews had to be culturally, but not racially eradicated. Those Jews who joined with non-Jewish Marxists in the rejection of Judaism and Zionism were praiseworthy Marxists. Those who did not were an “enemy of the proletariat” to be executed like a number of my great-uncles.

Like most Soviet implementations of Communist ideology, this was a ‘Potemkin village’ of lies. Jews, regardless of their religious observance or interest in Israel, had been explicitly targeted for persecution and mass murder, were specially designated as being Jews in government documents, and the government’s formal anti-Zionism and anti-Judaism was just the same old ‘antisemitism’, complete with hook-nosed cartoons, dressed up in progressive clothing.

Much the same is true of contemporary leftist Jew-hatred which is based on Marx’s stereotypes of Jews as capitalists, but draws heavily on the Soviet playbook of substituting anti-Zionism for antisemitism, and trotting out model Jewish socialists to defend the persecution of Jews.

The liberal Jewish failure to meaningfully confront the Soviet hatred of Jews left them unprepared for the leftist movements that mainstreamed the same hatred in America.

There were plenty of warnings. Decade after decade, academics pushing these positions on college campuses, journalists embedding them in magazines, and fringe politicians making these arguments grew in power and influence while the liberal establishment talked of ‘antisemitism’ purely in terms of far-right racial supremacism or small town prejudices.

The rise of black nationalist antisemitism in the seventies, which was often explicitly racialist in nature, produced flailing responses. The American Jewish liberal establishment held up faded pictures of Heschel marching with MLK, failing to grasp that this made black nationalists despise MLK rather than like Jews, and prattled about the Jewish contribution to civil rights. The liberal establishment was so committed to a model of top-down persecution that it was unable to defend Jews against antisemitism that appeared to be coming from a minority on the bottom.

When various forms of critical race theory made the formula official that black people and minorities could not be racist toward anyone with more privilege than them, a position that legitimized a general hatred of white people, Asians and Jews, there was little response. The formal understanding that Jews could now be freely hated was ignored by liberal Jews.

Some outnumbered figures launched a struggle for the soul of liberalism, but they had little and fleeting support from an establishment that was still influential enough to make a difference. The liberal Jewish establishment was more interested in being in the vanguard of civil rights than in protecting Jews from the emergence of an ideology that deprived them of their civil rights.

Only after the Hamas mass murder of over 1,000 Jews and the statements of support for it at major universities, did some donors and community leaders wake up enough to push back. It took the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust and the widespread acceptance of it by their friends for them to realize how bad the situation had gotten, but not to realize why.

And that is the crucial issue.

The pro-Hamas Left insists that it is not ‘antisemitic’ and most of it probably believes that’s true because while traditional bigotry and hatred created the Islamic obsession with killing Jews and the conviction in the old Marxist Left that the Jews were not a legitimate people, the final product is cloaked in talk about liberation, decolonization and an end to privilege and oppression.

It may support the mass murder of Jews, but it doesn’t culturally ‘feel’ like ‘antisemitism’.

The Leftist hatred of Jews doesn’t fit the liberal model in which there is a continuity of oppression. A downtrodden minority faces prejudice, which escalates into political repression  and then violence. First there are the jokes, then laws and then bullets. Leftists cheering for Hamas would argue that since they don’t tell ‘antisemitic’ jokes, they can’t be considered antisemitic even while they’re calling for the mass murder of Jews.

This is why the traditional model of talking about antisemitism has failed so badly.

The liberal insistence on teaching tolerance by addressing the roots of bigotry rather than its outcome has been a disastrous failure because where far-right bigotry is a continuity, left-wing bigotry is a discontinuity of ideological abstractions leading indirectly to mass murder. The ideological detachment from reality can be measured in the fact that inmates in Nazi camps did not shout, “Heil Hitler” before dying, but those in Soviet gulags were known to shout, “long live Stalin” before being executed. The Nazis knew what they were doing, Communists often did not. They existed and still exist in an ideological haze of slogans rather than people.

‘Antisemitism’ is an ideological abstraction that leftists reject because it appears to refer to a certain type of person and behavior that their ideological purity tells them that they couldn’t be. They’re not the sorts of people who talk about ‘jewing down’ or believe in the inferiority of races and therefore, even while they’re smashing Jewish store windows and attacking a Holocaust museum, they can’t be ‘antisemites’. They know ‘antisemites’ are ‘right wing’ and when they’re assaulting Jews in the street, they, like the Soviet Communists, are fighting against ‘Zionism’.

The emphasis on antisemitism, on the roots of bigotry rather than their outcomes, makes such moral evasiveness easy for leftists. Focus on the mass murder of Jews, the broken glass and a mob outside the doors of a Holocaust museum, and then you’re talking about hateful outcomes.

Those are much harder to evade than abstractions.

The analysis of ‘antisemitism’ rather than the concrete reality of Jew-hatred has played into the hands of a leftist culture of hate that uses analysis to disguise the reality of its actions.

Confronting the realities of the assaults on Jews will require taking stock of a cultural war, rather than a racial one, and deal with outcomes instead of motives. Talking about ‘antisemitism’ becomes misleading when confronting a form of antisemitism that hides its ethnic hatred behind cultural and political hostility. And that will require discussing cultural, religious and political differences, topics which liberal Jews are uncomfortable with.

The modern liberal consensus, like that of the Soviet Union, is racially diverse but ideologically unified. The illusion of multiculturalism in the Soviet Union or a college town in America is limited to only those cultural differences that don’t clash with the dominant leftist belief system. This is a comfortable echo chamber for those who agree and a repressive cage for those who do not.

Liberal Jews bought into this system in a big way because they were terrified of feeling different. They shed their religious traditions for non-threatening culturally Jewish versions of liberal Protestantism and stayed silent about the mass murder of Jews during the Holocaust. The rebirth of Israel challenged their theology and their politics, but mostly their anonymity.

While American Jewish anti-zionists lashed out at Israel in resentment for creating tension between their politics and their identity, Israel was just the canary in the coal mine. Black nationalists weren’t attacking Jewish teachers because of Israel. And Marxists weren’t targeting Jews because of the Jewish State. To a liberal establishment that was turning leftist, the existence of a traditional Jewish community was unsustainable in either Israel or America.

Oct 7, like the protests for Soviet Jewry and the defenses of Israel, forced American Jews to break with their political community in support of their religious and ethnic community. It’s a painful and alienating experience, but like any escape from a toxic relationship, also liberating.

Among the unexamined truisms that need to be rethought is ‘antisemitism’.

Antisemitism refers to race and when it comes to the hatred of Jews, culture trumps race. Aside from the Nazis and a few ‘Jewish Question’ obsessed racialists, hardly anyone who hates Jews would propose using genetic screening to track down people of Jewish descent who don’t even know that they are Jewish to exterminate them. Most cultural ‘antisemitism’ has a racial component, but it’s triggered by the idea of the Jews as a community and a people.

The term ‘antisemitism’ conflates someone who doesn’t like Jews, but would never engage in violence or support violence, with those who engage in and support violence against Jews. Furthermore some of those who support the mass murder of Jews don’t believe that they’re prejudiced against Jews, but believe that killing Jewish children is the right thing to do.

Talking about ‘antisemitism’ or even ‘hatred’ is wholly inadequate in such situations.

The idea of a continuity of bigotry often breaks down in the madness of contemporary political discourse. The same term used to describe someone who resents Jews moving into his town should not be used to also describe someone massacring Jews. Calling it all ‘antisemitism’ minimizes it and puts the local jerk on the same level as Hitler or Hamas. And that’s a mistake.

The liberal Jewish establishment has spent too much time fighting ‘prejudice’ and not enough time dealing with ‘eliminationist’ sentiments. The existential threat is not prejudice: it’s genocide.

Fighting the leftist and Islamic hatred of Jews will require developing a new terminology and a new approach than the same old tired ‘fight against antisemitism’ establishment rhetoric. Liberal Jews will have to confront their own fears and rethink their assumptions to take on the threat.

During the Hitler-Stalin Pact, Jews had to confront Communists and their sympathizers who were now suddenly insistent on a friendship with the Nazis. That genocidal alliance crystalized a rejection of Communism by American Jews as “Jewish workers assaulted Communists who tried to defend their alliance with the Nazis, calling them, ‘Communazis.’”

The pact between Islam and the Left manifested once again in the response to the Oct 7 atrocities should be met the same way. The Left should be rejected the same way the Communists were. The ‘Communazis’ have been replaced by ‘Commuhamasniks’, but that is the only thing that has changed. American Jews must relearn how to fight this enemy.

After three generations of failing to confront the leftist hatred of Jews, it’s time to fight.


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Lenin was quarter Jewish?
« Reply #1037 on: December 03, 2023, 11:35:51 AM »
I didn't know that; though his mother's father converted to Christianity and Lenin knew none of this:

In mid-1863, Ilya married Maria,[9] the well-educated daughter of a wealthy Swedish Lutheran mother, and a Russian Jewish father who had converted to Christianity and worked as a physician.[10] According to historian Petrovsky-Shtern, it is likely that Lenin was unaware of his mother's half-Jewish ancestry, which was only discovered by Anna after his death.[11]

doubt he would have been any different to Jews had he did know as he was 100 % political.

"Stalin's Jew":

who somehow was one of the lucky few to survive Stalin's paranoia and lived until 1991:

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Lazar-Moiseyevich-Kaganovich


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« Reply #1038 on: December 04, 2023, 08:49:36 AM »
The New Antisemitism Is the Oldest Kind
This isn’t the midcentury ‘Gentleman’s Agreement’ variety. It’s the return of pure hatred of the Jews.
By Lance Morrow
Dec. 3, 2023 12:59 pm ET


I remember a dinner party on Martha’s Vineyard in the 1970s when I and my first wife, who was Jewish, shared lobster with a half-dozen nicely tanned Protestants in sherbet-colored golfing trousers. They chattered about what pests “those people” were, who kept “pushing” to join the local beach club, even though they were “not wanted.”

“Gee,” said a middle-aged Princeton man—pronouncing the word “jay”—“why don’t they stick to their own clubs?”

My then-wife and I left the party early, and in the car she burst into tears.

How innocent the moment seems. That was the postwar “Gentleman’s Agreement” version of American antisemitism—gentiles relaxing up-island, on their fourth glass of Chablis. The word “Jew” wasn’t mentioned. In the Martha’s Vineyard iteration—post-Auschwitz—American antisemitism often had a discreetly covert quality. It emerged from a kind of sly politesse because, after all, everyone at some time or other had seen the films from the Nazi camps—the ones that Gen. Eisenhower had ordered his troops to watch. In Elia Kazan’s 1947 movie based on the Laura Hobson novel “Gentleman’s Agreement,” desk clerks fidget and look away when Gregory Peck, as a journalist pretending to be Jewish, pushes them about renting a room.

America’s antisemites in those days were more fools than monsters. With exceptions—Henry Ford, Father Coughlin, et al.—their antisemitism seemed more snobbery than hate crime. It wasn’t political, programmatic or fanatical. One evening in 1918, Eleanor Roosevelt (of all people) came home from a Washington dinner party for the financier Bernard Baruch and wrote to her mother-in-law that “the Jew party was appalling.”

The antisemitism that has poured forth onto the country’s streets and campuses in the autumn of 2023 is a different thing—a reversion to a politics of aggressive, unapologetic hate. The ominous historical regression at work in the latest Jew-hatred takes up the themes of the mid-1930s, the spirit of Hitler’s brown shirts and Kristallnacht. Of course, the new Jew-haters—especially young people on campuses—think of themselves as perfectly virtuous. What is a thousand times worse, they think of their Jew-hatred as righteous. It’s morally fashionable among them.

To frame this in American terms, you might recall another Gregory Peck movie, “To Kill a Mockingbird” (1962). Remember the scene in which, in the middle of the night, a mob of whites comes into town with intent to lynch Tom Robinson, a black man who has been falsely accused of raping a white girl. Peck’s Atticus Finch sits in front of the local jail, reading a book. The moment is tense. Just then, the children, Jem, Scout and Dill, step forward and, in the most innocent way, greet the leader of the lynch mob. Scout says, “Hey, Mr. Cunningham,” and she mentions Cunningham’s son, whom she knows from school. His brutal face grows suddenly embarrassed. The children have shamed him out of his violence. The mob backs off and dissolves into the Alabama night.

The most disgraceful and dangerous change that has occurred in the character of America’s “elites” during my lifetime is this: In 2023, at some of the most expensive universities in the country (who bothers to call them “the best” anymore?), Jem and Scout are leading the lynch mobs.

Sympathy for innocent Palestinian civilians who have been killed under the Israeli bombardment of Gaza? By all means. Who doesn’t feel that? The mirror neurons of any decent person must respond at the sight of child-sized body bags in the ruins of a Palestinian hospital; the stunned, unbearable grief on the faces of those still alive. The conscience recoils and cries, “Stop!”

But wait. Draw back. Who-whom, as Lenin said: How you assign blame for violence depends on who has done what to whom. The Americans didn’t bomb Yokohama on Dec. 7, 1941; the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. And the Japanese were responsible for what followed.

Why did Hamas attack on Oct. 7? Israeli oppression? Hamas has ruled Gaza since 2007, two years after the Israelis withdrew. Under decent, intelligent leadership—with a touch of vision, with investment by oil-rich Arab states—Gaza might now be a Mediterranean Singapore. Instead, Hamas has maintained Gaza as an anguished slum, an ongoing dramatization of the Palestinian victimhood that is the source of Hamas’s power and raison d’être.

Although it seems grotesque to say so, the casualties in Gaza have been relatively light by neighborhood standards. More than 300,000 of Saddam Hussein’s own people ended up dead or missing during his 24-year rule. In Syria under the regime of the Assads, father and son, hundreds of thousands of Syrians have been killed and nearly 13 million people—more than half the country’s prewar population—have been turned out into the world as refugees.

Students at Harvard and Columbia don’t protest the region’s routine inhumanities. They do so only when there are Jews around to blame and to hate. It’s the Israelis’ Jewishness that brings the demonstrators out. This isn’t “a new antisemitism.” Antisemitism is never new. It’s an ancient beast that awakens from time to time and exhales such filth as “Gas the Jews” and “Hitler was right.”

Mr. Morrow is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and author of “The Noise of Typewriters: Remembering Journalism.”

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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1039 on: December 04, 2023, 09:34:52 AM »
I recall growing up hearing my parents talk of country clubs that were not for Jews and one that was where all the Jews went.
 
" Instead, Hamas has maintained Gaza as an anguished slum, an ongoing dramatization of the Palestinian victimhood that is the source of Hamas’s power and raison d’être. "

that's why they make good Democrats.

"One evening in 1918, Eleanor Roosevelt (of all people) came home from a Washington dinner party for the financier Bernard Baruch and wrote to her mother-in-law that “the Jew party was appalling.”

first Eleanor wins the prize for by far the ugliest first lady in history .
second interesting information on Bernard Baruch who was a real patriot who advised Will Rogers to get out of the stock market just in time
was that his father was a Confederate who joined the KKK:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Baruch

Good fodder for Prof Gates geneology show.
I no zero about my ancestor in Europe . A tad about my grandparents but honestly very little.





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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1040 on: December 05, 2023, 03:22:03 PM »

A friend writes in response to the Lance Morrow piece:

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This is an excellent piece, amplifying ideas I have been telling to anyone who would listen for decades.

It never made any sense to me to prey on my emotions over the suicides at Masada or the various pogroms or the Holocaust.

The device of extolling Judaism because of that pervasive hatred, using that as a core reason even to be Jewish or practice the religion was precisely the device driving me away from that.

Further, It pissed me off to no end to never have had any response to the question of what to do about the current, modern day expressions of the hatred.

No one thought to teach us about pre-attack cues, how to fight, how to use a knife or accurately fire a pistol, or even how to shut down the vocal bigot.

They filled us with all of the existential potency of being solitary, unique, reviled( yet special) and they gave us precisely zero tools to counter any of that in real time.

What utter blindness, stupidity and a complete failure to manifest the insight required for 20th century manifestations of an ancient problem.

How could they though, mired as they were in the press of all of our history ?

In that sense, I forgive them, but what a squandered opportunity, one with huge ramifications.

Perhaps the events of 10/7 and what’s come since will pierce that carapace. We’ll see.

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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1041 on: December 05, 2023, 03:52:09 PM »
I recall a rabbi telling us how some Jews define themselves as Jews by the holocaust
I thought what a strange thought.

I am not sure who your friend refers to when he says "they"

If he means Jewish leftist leaders (in the US at least), I think they thought by voting and saying they are  for the poor, the downtrodden, minorities, calling for love peace no cultural bias, or religious bias
etc that would be their protection enough.  No need for anything else.

If that is who he means by they I agree - we were let down big time

forget about crying over the holocaust Masada pogroms etc.

what about now.

we are seeing some divestment, public outcry, commercials and some fighting back in commercials and media

We see the Israelis actually risking their lives their blood their loved ones etc in fighting back

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Name that river. Name that sea.
« Reply #1042 on: December 06, 2023, 05:08:50 AM »
From Which River to Which Sea?
College students don’t know, yet they agree with the slogan.
By Ron E. Hassner
Dec. 5, 2023 2:16 pm ET


When college students who sympathize with Palestinians chant “From the river to the sea,” do they know what they’re talking about? I hired a survey firm to poll 250 students from a variety of backgrounds across the U.S. Most said they supported the chant, some enthusiastically so (32.8%) and others to a lesser extent (53.2%).

But only 47% of the students who embrace the slogan were able to name the river and the sea. Some of the alternative answers were the Nile and the Euphrates, the Caribbean, the Dead Sea (which is a lake) and the Atlantic. Less than a quarter of these students knew who Yasser Arafat was (12 of them, or more than 10%, thought he was the first prime minister of Israel). Asked in what decade Israelis and Palestinians had signed the Oslo Accords, more than a quarter of the chant’s supporters claimed that no such peace agreements had ever been signed. There’s no shame in being ignorant, unless one is screaming for the extermination of millions.

Would learning basic political facts about the conflict moderate students’ opinions? A Latino engineering student from a southern university reported “definitely” supporting “from the river to the sea” because “Palestinians and Israelis should live in two separate countries, side by side.” Shown on a map of the region that a Palestinian state would stretch from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, leaving no room for Israel, he downgraded his enthusiasm for the mantra to “probably not.” Of the 80 students who saw the map, 75% similarly changed their view.

An art student from a liberal arts college in New England “probably” supported the slogan because “Palestinians and Israelis should live together in one state.” But when informed of recent polls in which most Palestinians and Israelis rejected the one-state solution, this student lost his enthusiasm. So did 41% of students in that group.

A third group of students claimed the chant called for a Palestine to replace Israel. Sixty percent of those students reduced their support for the slogan when they learned it would entail the subjugation, expulsion or annihilation of seven million Jewish and two million Arab Israelis. Yet another 14% of students reconsidered their stance when they read that many American Jews considered the chant to be threatening, even racist. (This argument had a weaker effect on students who self-identified as progressive, despite their alleged sensitivity to offensive speech.)

In all, after learning a handful of basic facts about the Middle East, 67.8% of students went from supporting “from the river to sea” to rejecting the mantra. These students had never seen a map of the Mideast and knew little about the region’s geography, history or demography. Those who hope to encourage extremism depend on the political ignorance of their audiences. It is time for good teachers to join the fray and combat bias with education.

Mr. Hassner is a professor of political science at the University of California, Berkeley

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From the River to the Sea, Colleges Fail to Educate Thee
« Reply #1043 on: December 06, 2023, 04:42:05 PM »
When college students who sympathize with Palestinians chant “From the river to the sea,” do they know what they’re talking about? I hired a survey firm to poll 250 students from a variety of backgrounds across the U.S. Most said they supported the chant, some enthusiastically so (32.8%) and others to a lesser extent (53.2%).

But only 47% of the students who embrace the slogan were able to name the river and the sea. Some of the alternative answers were the Nile and the Euphrates, the Caribbean, the Dead Sea (which is a lake) and the Atlantic. Less than a quarter of these students knew who Yasser Arafat was (12 of them, or more than 10%, thought he was the first prime minister of Israel). Asked in what decade Israelis and Palestinians had signed the Oslo Accords, more than a quarter of the chant’s supporters claimed that no such peace agreements had ever been signed. There’s no shame in being ignorant, unless one is screaming for the extermination of millions.

Would learning basic political facts about the conflict moderate students’ opinions? A Latino engineering student from a southern university reported “definitely” supporting “from the river to the sea” because “Palestinians and Israelis should live in two separate countries, side by side.” Shown on a map of the region that a Palestinian state would stretch from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, leaving no room for Israel, he downgraded his enthusiasm for the mantra to “probably not.” Of the 80 students who saw the map, 75% similarly changed their view.

An art student from a liberal arts college in New England “probably” supported the slogan because “Palestinians and Israelis should live together in one state.” But when informed of recent polls in which most Palestinians and Israelis rejected the one-state solution, this student lost his enthusiasm. So did 41% of students in that group.

A third group of students claimed the chant called for a Palestine to replace Israel. Sixty percent of those students reduced their support for the slogan when they learned it would entail the subjugation, expulsion or annihilation of seven million Jewish and two million Arab Israelis. Yet another 14% of students reconsidered their stance when they read that many American Jews considered the chant to be threatening, even racist. (This argument had a weaker effect on students who self-identified as progressive, despite their alleged sensitivity to offensive speech.)

In all, after learning a handful of basic facts about the Middle East, 67.8% of students went from supporting “from the river to sea” to rejecting the mantra. These students had never seen a map of the Mideast and knew little about the region’s geography, history or demography. Those who hope to encourage extremism depend on the political ignorance of their audiences. It is time for good teachers to join the fray and combat bias with education.

Mr. Hassner is a professor of political science at the University of California, Berkeley.

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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1044 on: December 06, 2023, 08:34:30 PM »
the same people know only one thing about Thomas Jefferson - he owned slaves


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RIP Daniel Patrick Moynihan
« Reply #1045 on: December 11, 2023, 04:53:29 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cowardly-city-college-which-refuses-to-denounce-antisemitism-should-take-my-dad-s-name-off-its-moynihan-center/ar-AA1llYvf?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=0156b7e0cd7a403bb9fadd26e3a8f76b&ei=9

He was one of the very, very few Democrats I actually respected.

I think he was a genius though of course I did not agree with many of his political beliefs.


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“Anti-Racist” so Long as it Suits ‘Em
« Reply #1047 on: December 31, 2023, 08:21:28 PM »
To say our elites have a blindspot where anti-Semitism is concerned is a grotesque understatement. Having spent years obsessing over fantasy forms of racism and fascism, having spent years soberly telling us that Boris Johnson was Eton’s answer to Hitler, the great and good look upon Jew-hating marches, attacks and even terror plots… and it barely registers.

Whether these people are ignoring anti-Semitism, making excuses for it, or participating in it, the story remains the same. Our supposedly ‘anti-racist’ betters, people who during the Black Lives Matter uprising just two years ago were taking knees and ‘doing the work’ and tweeting #SilenceIsViolence from their £4million townhouses, are so marinated in a divisive identity politics and a demented ‘anti-imperialism’ that they see Jews as ‘white’ oppressors, even when they’re being beaten up, and Israel as the aggressor, even when it is under attack.

The silence of the ‘anti-racists’ over the barbaric rise of anti-Semitism reminds us that these people were never anti-racists at all.

– Tom Slater

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Benjamins older brother Yonatan
« Reply #1048 on: January 01, 2024, 08:03:04 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonatan_Netanyahu

was the only Israeli soldier killed during Entebbe raid

Benjamin has another younger brother

All 3 served in elite IDF forces.


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Re: “Anti-Racist” so Long as it Suits ‘Em
« Reply #1049 on: January 01, 2024, 08:07:11 AM »
Yes, they are so quick to call conservatives racist, homophobe, islamophobe, anti Semitic when we aren't. How is it they can be so sloppy with their own anti-semitism? 

I see it as a matter of freedom of religion. I see Israel as a strategic partner, not an ethnic group. I see my Jewish friends as individuals, not as a group. I see it as a matter of right and wrong, not as political strategery.

If conservatives turned against Jews or Israel we would lose like two or three votes.

Joe Biden won the presidency in 2020 by 44,000 votes and presumably won the Jewish vote by millions. Isn't there a political risk in screwing with that?