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Lloyd de Jongh: Lying about the Talmud
« Reply #1150 on: September 15, 2024, 10:03:31 PM »
I've only skimmed this, but knowing Lloyd as I do, fasten your seat belts for one helluva ride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3HvOjQhfQ4

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As usual Democrats accuse us of what they are doing
« Reply #1152 on: September 23, 2024, 10:12:32 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/the-anti-semitic-revolution-on-the-american-right/ar-AA1r3KBN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=149d4c0e5b234c4e81c4be0eb5bd6c81&ei=12

For sure it is undeniable Jews have a disproportionate influence compared to their numbers on America politics.

That said this is their usual ploy direct from the Soviet Union and Saul Alinsky.

Accuse the other side of what you yourselves are doing.


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Reza Behnam 'Agony and Ecstasy'
« Reply #1153 on: October 08, 2024, 10:00:02 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-agony-and-ecstasy-of-an-empire-the-united-states-in-the-middle-east/ar-AA1rU9Zm

I don't see any other thread this warped interpretation of the Middle East goes under than this.

Anti Semite (no "only anti Zionist" = me -> that is BS -> Anti Semite)

and by extension speaking of how beautiful it is in Oregon while bashing next in line the United States as a parasite in the Middle East  :roll:

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Sid Rosenberg on O'Reilly from Israel
« Reply #1154 on: October 08, 2024, 10:53:57 AM »
https://www.billoreilly.com/video?chartID=330&pid=40653

Interesting perspectives in Israel

Same there as here:

Liberal Jews the same there as here.



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Anti-semitism & lawfare
« Reply #1156 on: October 15, 2024, 08:10:30 AM »

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Like I said
« Reply #1157 on: October 17, 2024, 03:24:29 PM »
anyone who thinks American Jews are going to vote for any  R   do not understand

you would have to knock them out with chloroform and then use a crowbar to get their hand off the Democrat voting lever.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jewish-voters-say-harris-will-handle-gaza-war-better-than-trump/ar-AA1sqLoG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=3ffb1f7ef5924d7e830444d13e33090a&ei=23

I am saying it again. For most Jews Rs are worse than Nazis.

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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1158 on: October 18, 2024, 03:37:17 AM »
This is MSN so Caveat Lector.   

They could just as easily have pointed to, or at least mentioned, the substantial increase in Jews voting for Trump.

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Re: Like I said
« Reply #1159 on: October 18, 2024, 07:14:42 AM »
"anyone who thinks American Jews are going to vote for any  R   do not understand"

5.8 million adult Jews in US.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/05/11/the-size-of-the-u-s-jewish-population/

44,000 Biden 2020 margin of victory approximately (in 3 states)
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/president/

Just losing enthusiasm for the candidate (Harris) affects the vote.  1 or 2% flipping makes a difference. If 5 or 10% vote for neither (instead of voting Democrat) it makes a big difference.

It's very hard to undo visceral hate for Trump - but people are doing it.

I hate inflation.  I hate the borders open and the fiscal catastrophe.  Interest expense on the debt doubled in 4 years.  I don't have any Jewish friends who run their life that way.

What I see is Democrats conflicted with what they know is wrong and as you say, not liking the alternative.
----------------------------------------------------
Kamala on Israel.: 
"Israel has a right to defend itself"... followed by 'not like that!'
"Vice President Kamala Harris warned Israel that there could be consequences if it attacks the Rafah region in the southern Gaza Strip"
Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar went to hide in Rafah.
Sinwar was killed during an IDF operation in Rafah.
VP Kamala Harris congratulates the Israeli kill of Sinwar and takes partial US credit for it.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2024/10/17/remarks-by-vice-president-harris-on-the-death-of-yahya-sinwar/

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POTH: Today's episode at my alma mater
« Reply #1160 on: October 19, 2024, 07:13:27 PM »


Columbia Bars Vocal Pro-Israel Professor From Campus
The university said Shai Davidai had repeatedly harassed and intimidated employees. He said the university had not done enough to crack down on pro-Palestinian protests.

By Vimal Patel and Sharon Otterman
Oct. 16, 2024


Columbia University has temporarily barred a vocal pro-Israel professor from campus, saying he repeatedly harassed and intimidated the school’s employees.

Shai Davidai, an assistant professor in the business school, has been a polarizing presence on campus since Oct. 7, 2023, when Hamas led an attack on Israel that has turned Gaza into a battlefield. He has accused Columbia of not doing enough to crack down on pro-Palestinian demonstrations, which he says are broadly antisemitic and support terrorism. He often makes videos of student activists and administrators and posts them online, actions his critics say blow past the boundaries of civility and policy.

In recent days, Professor Davidai has used his X account, which has more than 100,000 followers, to accuse several student groups of supporting terrorism; posted the name and email address of a Columbia professor he suggested was “OK with rape, murder, torture and kidnapping”; and falsely called Rashid Khalidi, a respected Palestinian scholar at Columbia who is retiring, a “spokesperson for Hamas.”

Last week, on the anniversary of the Hamas attack on Israel, Professor Davidai posted videos of himself following around Cas Holloway, the university’s chief operating officer, for several minutes with a camera and peppering him with questions about why pro-Palestinian protests were allowed on campus that day.

“How did you allow this to happen on Oct. 7?” Professor Davidai asked in the video, amid a bustling backdrop of pro-Palestinian chants and activism. He added: “You have to do your job. And I will not let you rest if they won’t let us rest.”

The school said it notified Professor Davidai of its decision on Tuesday.

Professor Davidai, an Israeli citizen, declined an interview request but posted an expletive-laden video on social media on Tuesday night in which he suggested that he would sue the university for its decision and that he was “not going anywhere.”

He said that Columbia had decided to suspend him because he “was not afraid to stand up to the hateful mob.”

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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1162 on: October 21, 2024, 06:45:46 AM »
What I find interesting is the split between the orthodox Jews and the non orthodox.

I am mostly secular.  I don't celebrate holidays anymore or go to temple but I still ID as a Jew.

I remember talking with a very liberal - ie democrat partisan Jews who was similar to me as far as being nonsecular.

We actually got into discussion how many Jews annoy us and embarrass us.
Shortly I realized she was talking about the orthodox who are more conservative and can in some locals be seen medieval
garb.  While I was thinking the crazy Democrat partisans.  The ones who elites the well to do the well off the teachers etc.

The ones who are non secular - not me  or CD - who probably were always liberal Democrats seemed to have replaced
being Jewish at the top of their identity with being Democrats.

Responding to Doug's post it is helpful to see 31 % say they will vote Trump but the only way to widen that crack that  is if the economy or something hurts them largely in their own lives and wallets.

Like I have said they all think they are safe from Dems policies, or anti semitism, but they are not. If events truly threaten them personally they might only then break.   My 2 cents.


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Jews for Trump
« Reply #1163 on: October 21, 2024, 10:22:40 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kamala-harris-iran-s-pick-is-the-wrong-choice-for-american-jews-opinion/ar-AA1sF4Zs

In line with Doug's post above.

I wonder if this will translate to state and local races.



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Re: Amsterdam Post-Soccer Game Jew Hunt
« Reply #1166 on: November 08, 2024, 07:13:54 AM »
X is abuzz about this incident where organized gangs of masked presumed Muslims hunted down and beat Jewish soccer fans:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/11/pogrom-in-amsterdam-middle-eastern-migrant-gangs-brutally-attack-israeli-soccer-fans/?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pogrom-in-amsterdam-middle-eastern-migrant-gangs-brutally-attack-israeli-soccer-fans

I was mugged in Amsterdam by 'presumed Muslims' some years ago.

Not Jewish but guilty of looking like a tourist/ business traveler.
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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1167 on: November 08, 2024, 07:21:36 AM »

Not Jewish?
Doug,  I thought your full name is MacGoldberg  :-o

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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1168 on: November 08, 2024, 12:36:45 PM »

Not Jewish?
Doug,  I thought your full name is MacGoldberg  :-o

))
If not Jewish, perhaps Zionist,
'advocates for a homeland for the Jewish people in the Biblical Land of Israel.'

My family fought and very much risked their lives to rid the world of Hitler and Nazis, to now  be called Hitler and Nazis - by a woman whose ancestors were slave owners.

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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1169 on: November 09, 2024, 07:42:51 AM »
WWWOOOFFF!!!

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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1170 on: November 11, 2024, 04:50:38 PM »
https://www.wlns.com/news/im-at-a-loss-honestly-people-holding-nazi-flags-harass-citizens-in-mid-michigan/

right wind anti semitism

Biden, Harris, Trump, somebody needs to speak up to this.

I am not clear who is behind the Amsterdam stuff

muslims or neo nazis or both

or how about our great DC law enforcement -  no evidence this is a hate crime

https://pjmedia.com/sarah-anderson/2024/11/11/vandals-attack-beloved-jewish-restaurant-on-dark-nazi-anniversary-n4934185

say what?  so is it usual for people to run around throwing rocks at restaurant windows for any other reason?



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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1171 on: November 11, 2024, 07:27:54 PM »
"I am not clear who is behind the Amsterdam stuff.  Muslims or neo nazis or both"

Everything I've seen suggests Muslims.

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Another look at Jewish voters
« Reply #1172 on: November 12, 2024, 09:29:35 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-polls-jewish-voters-overwhelming-stuck-with-kamala-harris-but-what-about-muslims/ar-AA1tXfKB?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=2c18ad58d61d4f1b92862fd679e6f33c&ei=10

If you know any Jewish Democrats - think like someone like Anthony Weiner - they all have T
TDS stage 5.

They have never considered voting for a Republican and consider Rs worse then Nazis not infrequently, or at least up there with them.

Think meathead Rob Reiner who never knew a Dem he did not love.

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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1173 on: November 12, 2024, 09:49:11 AM »
Trump Won Jewish Neighborhoods Across America
The real facts about how Jews voted in 2024.
November 12, 2024 by Daniel Greenfield

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Trump won the largest Jewish county in the country, the only entirely Jewish town and village, and some of the densest, fastest growing and most Jewish neighborhoods in America.

Borough Park, Brooklyn is the densest Jewish neighborhood in the country. Its two square miles contain nearly 100,000 Jewish people in 23,000 households. 83% are married and only 2% are divorced. 96% are members of synagogues. This was where large crowds protested pandemic lockdowns, tearing down playground fences and burning masks.

Trump won over 90% of the vote in most Borough Park districts. On 14th Avenue and Rabbi Weissmandl Way, Trump won 96% of the vote in one very Jewish district.

In Chicago’s West Rogers Park, a Muslim terrorist shot a Jewish man who was walking to the synagogue on the Sabbath, and then did battle with police while shouting, “Allahu Akbar”.

Trump won the more Orthodox areas of West Rogers Park, which Chicago Magazine described as, “a world of synagogues, kosher bakeries, and Hebrew bookstores” by over 70%.

A pro-terrorist mob descended on the Pico-Robertson community in Los Angeles, and assaulted Jewish community members outside the Adas Torah synagogue while the police did nothing.

Trump won the Pico Robertson community. He also won the adjoining communities of Beverly Hills and the Orthodox Jewish community in the Fairfax area near the Holocaust museum, and which had suffered a BLM pogrom that vandalized synagogues and businesses in 2020. Down in the valley, he also won Valley Village as well as some Jewish areas in Encino and Tarzana.

In Surfside, the most ‘Jewish community’ of the Miami area, where Jews make up a third of the population, Trump won 61% of the vote. In Aventura, Miami, a melting pot of Jews from Latin America, the former USSR and the Middle East, where the majority of the population is Jewish, Trump won 59% of the vote.

These snapshots of some of the densest Jewish communities in the country, in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and Florida, show how Jews actually voted on Election Day.

Despite the push polls from liberal Jewish organizations and dubious exit polls, actual precinct data from the largest Jewish neighborhoods in the country shows Jews voted for Trump.

Precinct data, unlike polls, don’t represent some statistical cross-section of the population and can’t be biased, they show how actual Jewish communities voted in a truly objective way.

Closer breakdowns in New York and New Jersey show in depth the impact of the Trump vote in the most Jewish neighborhoods and areas in cities and states.

In Brooklyn, in Crown Heights, the home of the Lubavitch chassidic movement which Trump visited before the election, the area shines bright red amid a seat of blue from the surrounding hipster and black communities. Trump won 74% of the vote in Crown Heights South.

A red beach on the map of Brooklyn represents the chassidic communities of South Williamsburg where Trump won an average of 90% of the vote. Midwood, home to tens of thousands of more Orthodox (but not Chassidic) Jews is another bright stretch of red with Trump winning 90% or more of the votes in many precincts.

In the Syrian Jewish enclaves of Gravesend, Trump won between 85% to 91% of the vote.

But it’s not just religious Jews.

Trump won over 70% of the vote in the Brighton Beach enclave founded by Russian Jews. Queens, home to a large population of older working class Jewish retirees and Russian immigrants (along with working class Irish and Italians of another era) is almost all red.

Trump won some Kew Garden Hills, Queens precincts by over 80%. The New York Times wrote that Kew Garden Hills “supports one of the biggest Orthodox Jewish communities in New York City.”

Moving outside the city and further upstate, in the chassidic town of Palm Tree, NY, Trump won 98% of the vote, by 7489-122 and in the village of New Square, which is also all chassidic, Trump won 3,456 votes to 12 votes for Kamala.

In the larger Rockland County, NY, which has the largest Jewish population of any county in the country at 31%, Trump won a majority of the vote.

While Bruce Springsteen came out of Monmouth County, NJ and campaigned for Kamala, the area is home to the third largest concentration of Jews in the state, it’s also one of the most populated and fastest growing Jewish communities, and Trump won it.

Monmouth County includes the Syrian Jewish area of Deal where Trump held a fundraiser.

Trump won Ocean County and Passaic County, NJ even more decisively 67% to 31%. In Ocean County’s Lakewood township, where Jews make up 2 out of 3 residents, Trump won 99% of the vote. In Bergen County’s somewhat more liberal Teaneck Modern Orthodox Jewish precincts, Trump won 71% of the vote.

While Democrats and the media will go on peddling their own push poll and surveys which will claim that the vast majority of Jews are Democrats (and some will go on believing them), the hard data from election precincts shows very clearly how Jewish neighborhoods voted.

Trump won Jewish neighborhoods across America. These communities are diverse, representing Middle Eastern, Latin American, Russian and Orthodox Jews. Many of these communities do not show up in polls and surveys which capture only a very conventional liberal demographic of third generation Eastern European and German descended Reform Jews.

Democrats, liberal Jewish groups and the media ignore some of the largest and fastest growing Jewish communities in America because they don’t fit the liberal suburban ‘Temple’ template.

The Trump campaign did not make that same mistake and won them.

Pro-Trump Jewish communities can be ignored in polls and surveys, but they can’t be ignored on Election Day. And the most Jewish neighborhoods in America voted for Trump.

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Trump picked up Jews in a few localities
« Reply #1174 on: November 12, 2024, 09:53:50 AM »
well, he probably picked up more Orthodox including in NY and a few in central Jersey

but those are a small minority of Jews:   

How do you explain the overall numbers that do not show a change?

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Re: Trump picked up Jews in a few localities
« Reply #1175 on: November 12, 2024, 10:19:35 AM »
well, he probably picked up more Orthodox including in NY and a few in central Jersey

but those are a small minority of Jews:   

How do you explain the overall numbers that do not show a change?

Better exit analysis will come in a few months. Some of these estimates are going to be off.

I heard 80% of orthodox Jews support Trump but didn't know if that's right and how many people that involves. Doesn't exactly match these numbers or Crafty's post.
https://forward.com/fast-forward/657477/poll-orthodox-jews-trump-harris/

Friends of mine that are centrist, moderate, pro-business, 'socially liberal' Democrat Jews lost faith in Biden, don't support Kamala, but couldn't make the leap to vote for Trump. Too much accumulated hatred for the guy.

Like my congressman Dean Phillips (Jewish) who challenged Biden in the primaries, they want a centrist 'No Labels' alternative to both and didn't get one.

But what is a moderate, centrist position on defeating Hamas? There's no such thing.

One candidate supported Israel and the other tried to thread the needle between death to Israel and supporting them.

Lots of voters were conflicted this year.

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Jews not so for Harris Walz
« Reply #1176 on: November 12, 2024, 10:30:01 AM »
One more on that.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/11/did-walz-cost-harris-the-election.php

The Harris-Walz ticket won Pennsylvania Jewish voters by seven percentage points, 48%-41%, over the GOP ticket of Donald Trump and JD Vance, according to the survey conducted by the Honan Strategy Group for the Teach Coalition, an affiliate of the Jewish Orthodox Union.

However, 53% of Jewish voters said they would have pulled the lever for the veep if Shapiro was her No. 2, while support for Trump-Vance would have dropped to 38%.
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Georgetown Cowers Before Anti-Semites
« Reply #1177 on: November 19, 2024, 02:06:53 PM »
There was a time when a degree from Georgetown, particularly a post-graduate degree, meant something other than quaking before rabid anti-semites:

https://freebeacon.com/campus/i-saw-how-georgetowns-prestigious-school-of-foreign-service-coddles-violent-anti-semites-who-are-plotting-to-transform-us-policy-from-within/



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Netanyahu’s Statement Re The Hague Warrant
« Reply #1180 on: November 21, 2024, 06:16:47 PM »
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Netanyahu’s full statement on the ICC’s decision to issue an arrest warrant:

“The anti-Semitic decision by the International Court in The Hague is a modern-day Dreyfus trial, and it will end the same way. 130 years ago, the French Jewish officer Alfred Dreyfus was falsely accused of treason by a biased French court. In response to these false accusations, the great French writer Émile Zola wrote his monumental essay, J’Accuse. He condemned the French court for its anti-Semitic lies against an innocent officer who was later exonerated of all guilt. Now, an international court in The Hague, also headed by a French judge, is repeating this outrageous offense.

It is falsely accusing me, the democratically elected Prime Minister of the State of Israel, and Israel’s former Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, of deliberately targeting civilians. This, despite the fact that we do everything in our power to avoid civilian casualties. We issue millions of text messages, phone calls, and leaflets to the citizens of Gaza to get them out of harm’s way, while Hamas terrorists do everything in their power to keep them in harm’s way, including shooting at them and using them as human shields. The court in The Hague accuses us of a deliberate policy of starvation, even though we have supplied Gaza with 700,000 tons of food to feed its people.

That amounts to 3,200 calories per day for every man, woman, and child in Gaza. These supplies are routinely looted by Hamas terrorists, who deprive their people of much-needed food. Just in the past few weeks, Israel facilitated the vaccination of 97% of Gaza’s population against polio. Yet, the court accuses us of genocide. What, in God’s name, are they talking about in The Hague?

The truth is simple: no war is more just than the war Israel is waging in Gaza after Hamas attacked us unprovoked, launching the worst massacre against the Jewish people since the Holocaust. The decision to issue an arrest warrant against me, the democratically elected Prime Minister of Israel, and our former Defense Minister, was made by a rogue prosecutor attempting to escape sexual harassment charges and by biased judges motivated by anti-Semitic hatred against the one and only Jewish state. These judges have done nothing—absolutely nothing—against the real war crimes committed by the dictatorships in Iran, Syria, and Yemen, where millions have been murdered or uprooted.

Instead, they falsely accuse the one democracy in the Middle East—Israel—thereby endangering the right of all democracies to defend themselves against murderers, terrorists, and tyrants. Nor has the court acted against the Hamas terrorists who raped our women, beheaded our men, burned babies alive in front of their parents, and kidnapped over 100 men, women, and children, hiding them in the underground dungeons of Gaza. They still hold 101 hostages, including citizens of many nations, among them the United States. And yet, the court did manage to issue one arrest warrant against Hamas. Now hear this: they issued an arrest warrant for the corpse of Hamas arch-terrorist Mohammed Deif. His corpse. What an absurdity.

No biased, anti-Israel decision in The Hague will stop the State of Israel from defending its citizens. I want to thank our many friends around the world, especially those in the United States, who have condemned this outrage and stated that this decision will have severe consequences for the ICC and for those who cooperate with it.

Israel does not, and will not, recognize the validity of this decision. We will continue to do everything necessary to defend our citizens and our state against Iran’s axis of terror: Iran and its terrorist proxies, which include Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and others. Our enemies are your enemies, and our victory will be your victory—the victory of civilization over barbarism and tyranny”

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Time to Disband the ICC
« Reply #1181 on: November 22, 2024, 01:58:01 PM »
An on point op ed re the international court’s Israeli folly:

Time To Dissolve the International Criminal Court
The stage is set to dismantle a tribunal shot through with corruption and animus to the Jewish state.
AP/Peter Dejong, File
The Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, Karim Khan, looks up prior to a press conference atThe Hague, Netherlands, July 3, 2023. AP/Peter Dejong, File
THE NEW YORK SUN
THE NEW YORK SUN
Published: Nov. 21, 2024 04:14 PM ET
Updated: Nov. 22, 2024 02:01 AM ET


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The issuance of arrest warrants for Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel and the Jewish state’s former defense minister, Yoav Gallant, will go down in history as a marker of the illogic of multilateral law enforcement. It sets the stage for what will be a long-overdue effort, likely taking years, to curb and dismantle the International Criminal Court at the Hague. It beckons the incoming Trump administration to lead in such an effort.

Early indications are that the incoming administration understands the stakes. President Trump’s nominee for national security adviser, Congressman Mike Waltz, took to X to offer a blast of moral clarity. He writes that “The ICC has no credibility … Israel has lawfully defended its people & borders from genocidal terrorists. You can expect a strong response to the antisemitic bias of the ICC & UN come January.” Trump takes office January 20.

The senior senator from South Dakota, John Thune, who will soon lead the Senate, is imploring his Democratic counterpart, Majority Leader Schumer, to “immediately pass sanctions legislation, as the House has already done on a bipartisan basis.” Mr. Schumer, who portrays himself as a defender of the Jewish people, has, at the bidding of the White House, blocked the measures. Mr. Thune calls this “a top priority in the next Congress.” 

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The Biden administration tells Axios that it is “discussing next steps” in response to “troubling process errors” and the “rush to seek arrest warrants.” Sterner stuff is needed. The problem is not process, but a rogue court implacably opposed to the Jewish state — and American interests and values. Some 124 states are now obligated by treaty to arrest Messrs. Netanyahu and Gallant should they set foot in their domains — or even fly over their air space.

Mr. Netanyahu on Thursday called the ICC’s actions the equivalent of “a modern Dreyfus Trial.” He knows whereof he speaks — Mr. Netanyahu’s father was one of the 20th century’s great scholars of antisemitism. Zionism’s founding father, Theodor Herzl, who reported on Dreyfus’s conviction at Paris, would have known well the spectacle of a kangaroo court blaming the Jews — and Europe hunting them. Hamas applauds the warrants.

The ICC’s decision is internally illogical. Israel is not a signatory to the Rome Statute, which demarcates the court’s jurisdiction. “Palestine” is not a state. An arrest warrant is issued for Mohammed Deif, but Israel believes that he is now before a higher tribunal, having been killed in July. Warrants for Hamas leaders Yahya Sinwar and Ismail Haniyeh are also moot. Meanwhile, chief prosecutor Karim Khan faces his own sexual harassment scandal.

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Then there is the principle of complementarity, sometimes referred to as “the cornerstone” of the ICC’s charter. It means that the court is one of last resort and prosecutes cases only when states do not do so on their own. Israel’s courts, though, have sent a president and prime minister to prison and are even now investigating Mr. Netanyahu. The Jewish state is embarked on a wrenching debate over its judicial system, whose vigor is acknowledged by all sides.

Which brings us back to Trump. Another tribunal, the International Court of Justice, the UN’s court, is mulling whether Israel has committed genocide. America can make it clear that every tool will be arrayed not just against these organs of corruption, but also against the states that aid and abet them. The ICC’s folly is a warning that America has even now mortgaged too much of its sovereignty to world bodies. It’s time for a Trump retrenchment.

https://www.nysun.com/article/time-to-dissolve-the-international-criminal-court?lctg=1439928055&recognized_email=crfdc%40yahoo.com&newsletter-access&utm_source=MG&utm_medium=email-newsletter&utm_campaign=Evening%20Sun%20%202024-11-21



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« Reply #1184 on: December 12, 2024, 06:09:31 AM »
Funny this is what outgoing Christopher Wray said:

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-white-supremacy-biggest-domestic-threat-us-wray-says-1573320

The biggest threat =  Jihadis, Muslin terrorists but MAGAS white supremacists

Gee how many people have they threatened since 1/6?

True we see about 8 to 12 clowns dressed as Nazis or Klansman walk through the streets occasionally in a Midwest town but where is the violence. 

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

I see a book deal, guest on CNN, and $25 K speeches, golden parachute, and some other swamp offers.  Probably not an "expert" for the media but who knows?



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Looking for Terror in All the Wrong Places
« Reply #1186 on: January 04, 2025, 06:09:54 AM »
This could be filed several places, but given the antisemitism it IDs throughout, I’m dropping it here.

Connect the dots between New Orleans and support for anti-Israel terror

Partisanship, tolerance of antisemitism and worries about Islamophobia led the Biden administration and its media allies to look for domestic terrorism in all the wrong places.

JONATHAN S. TOBIN

Jonathan S. Tobin is editor-in-chief of the Jewish News Syndicate, a senior contributor for The Federalist, a columnist for Newsweek and a contributor to many other publications. He covers the American political scene, foreign policy, the U.S.-Israel relationship, Middle East diplomacy, the Jewish world and the arts. He hosts the JNS “Think Twice” podcast, both the weekly video program and the “Jonathan Tobin Daily” program, which are available on all major audio platforms and YouTube. Previously, he was executive editor, then senior online editor and chief political blogger, for Commentary magazine. Before that, he was editor-in-chief of The Jewish Exponent in Philadelphia and editor of the Connecticut Jewish Ledger. He has won more than 60 awards for commentary, art criticism and other writing. He appears regularly on television, commenting on politics and foreign policy. Born in New York City, he studied history at Columbia University.

Mass killings in the United States tend to provoke very different kinds of reactions from the liberal political and media establishment.

Attacks that can be linked, however tenuous or unlikely, to the political right, are seized upon as an excuse to demonize conservatives and Republicans. Those that can’t be associated with the right but involve gun violence are used to promote gun control laws. But comments about slaughter linked to Islamist extremism are very different. They are primarily used to scold the country not to connect the dots between such incidents and a growing tolerance for antisemitism in the country, as well as support for anti-Western violence in the Muslim world.

This was demonstrated repeatedly in the aftermath of the New Orleans terrorist attack on the first day of 2025.

While caution is always a good idea when commenting about a crime before all the facts become available, that’s a rule that is never applied to those incidents that can be employed as political fodder for the left.

Officials in denial

In his initial remarks about the New Orleans terrorist attack on Jan. 1 by a person he already knew had declared that he was inspired by ISIS, President Joe Biden went out of his way to declare that “no one should jump to conclusions” about what happened.

Nor was the president alone in taking that attitude. Yet the car driven by Shamsud-Din Jabbar—the Texas-born assailant who was killed in an exchange of gunfire with police after he drove into a crowd of New Year’s celebrants on Bourbon Street, killing 14 and wounding dozens—contained an ISIS flag. The 42-year-old also planted explosives that fortunately did not go off.

Yet local police officials and a spokesperson for the FBI were still insisting that what had happened wasn’t necessarily an act of terrorism. While officials were soon forced to change their minds about that, the delay in labeling it as such was significant. So, too, was the fact that in the days since then, most of the national reporting and commentary about the event in the liberal corporate media has largely avoided any discussion of whether this is part of a global problem of Islamist-motivated terror. Absent from the same mainstream forums has been any reporting or analysis as to whether there is any connection between this and other acts of extremist Islamic violence, including the loud and virulent anti-Israel agitation on college campuses. Much of the same media sources have rationalized Islamist terror directed at Jews and the Jewish state, as well as demonized Jerusalem’s efforts to eradicate the perpetrators.

Indeed, the very suggestion that there is any link between what happened in New Orleans and the open antisemitism coming from pro-Hamas mobs on college campuses and in the streets of American cities has been dismissed as unfounded and irrelevant. That is true despite the fact that only hours after the Bourbon Street massacre, “pro-Palestine” demonstrators chanted in support of terror—“intifada revolution”—in New York City’s Times Square. Instead, officials and their cheerleaders in the press have congratulated themselves that Jabbar was a “lone wolf” who apparently acted alone, without any help or connection to foreign terrorist groups.

This is nothing new. Even at the height of the “war on terrorism” being conducted by the United States in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks undertaken by Al-Qaeda on American soil on Sept. 11, 2001, the events were treated as having nothing to do with the deadly terror attacks of the Second Intifada from 2001 to 2005 that cost the lives of more than 1,000 Israelis. News outlets and even politicians refused to accept that 9/11 and similar atrocities in Israel, such as the bombings of a Tel Aviv nightclub or a Sbarro’s pizzeria in Jerusalem, were all part of the same global struggle that pitted Islamists against the West.

Terrorism against Americans is something the media has been willing to deplore unreservedly. But when Israelis or Jews are the victims, the condemnations always come with caveats that seek to rationalize or justify criminal violence as an understandable form of “resistance” in a manner that would never be considered acceptable when applied to terrorism on American soil.

Forgetting about the threat

Though there has been a steady stream of incidents involving Islamic extremists over the last quarter century, Americans have largely forgotten about the threat of Muslim terrorism.

Fatigue and disgust about the ultimately unsuccessful U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq had something to do with it. The identification of the “war on terror”—a phrase that never made any sense since the opponent wasn’t a generic description of terror but the widely shared worldview of Muslim radicals—with these endless and unwinnable conflicts caused many, if not most Americans to rethink the advisability of any such endeavor.

Another element was the concerted effort by the administrations of both President George W. Bush and his successor, President Barack Obama, to distance the very real struggle the United States was engaged in from any thought of a clash of civilizations with the Muslim world. Bush was so worried about the possibility of a backlash against Muslim countries that were American allies, in addition to Muslim citizens and those living in the United States, that his constant refrain about Islam being “a religion of peace” became something of a comic cliché.

The belief that there had been a post-9/11 backlash against Muslims in the United States was unsupported by any real evidence. For the past quarter century, FBI statistics have shown that Jews have been the victims of the largest number of religion-based hate crimes with the total consistently dwarfing those in which Muslims were targeted.

Bush’s willingness to downplay the fact that 9/11 and other acts of Islamist terror were rooted in a popular version of Islam was wrongheaded. Obama went further by signaling to the Muslim world that the United States owed it apologies while also prioritizing appeasing the Islamist regime in Iran.

Just as dangerous was the way official Washington treated entities like the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) as civil-rights organizations rather than an antisemitic political front group for apologists for Hamas and other terrorists. The myth of a post-9/11 backlash has now been succeeded by an equally false idea that American Muslims were put at risk in the aftermath of the Hamas-led assault on Israel on Oct. 7, 2023.

That is the basis for the Biden administration’s decision to initiate a national strategy to combat Islamophobia, which essentially followed CAIR’s lead on a largely fictional issue. Bias against Muslims exists and all such prejudiced behavior is deplorable. But most of what groups like CAIR label as Islamophobia are nothing more than efforts to shine a spotlight on the antisemitism and support for Islamist extremism that is widespread in the Muslim community.

Politicizing justice

In the last four years, the Biden administration has sought to raise awareness about domestic terrorism. However, it did so in such a way as to avoid mentioning Islamists—something that would antagonize Muslims and left-wing groups that had embraced the misleading narrative about Islamophobia and the demonization of Israel.

Instead of worrying about mosques and imams throughout the country that spread hate or the way that CAIR sought to prevent scrutiny of such behavior, the Biden administration was focused on treating its conservative political opponents as terrorists.

Under the leadership of Attorney General Merrick Garland, the U.S. Department of Justice and the FBI devoted a disproportionate amount of their resources to investigating dissent against liberal orthodoxies. In this way, it was opponents of abortion, parents who protested against school boards allowing divisive teachings about critical race theory and other toxic ideas into local schools and those who challenged the 2020 election results who were labeled as constituting the primary threat from domestic terrorism.

This was a dangerous misuse of federal power. Treating partisan disagreement as an imminent threat of terrorism politicized the justice system. It also distracted law-enforcement officials who were already more worried about being labeled Islamophobic than in scrutinizing genuine extremists from the Islamist threat. This also helped to divert Americans from the growing support for anti-Israel terror that manifested itself in the wake of Oct. 7.

The belief that the long-running war against the one Jewish state on the planet is entirely separate from Islamist threats against the United States is a myth. To Iran, which is the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism, as well as the remnants of ISIS and Al-Qaeda, coupled with groups that have attempted to follow in their footsteps, Israel is the little Satan and America the great Satan.

Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris repeatedly claimed that the views of Hamas apologists were legitimate and deserve to be heard. Their blatantly political motive for taking this stand is a testament to the strength of the intersectional and increasingly antisemitic left-wing of the Democratic Party.

Considering all threats seriously

It takes a prodigious leap of faith to accept the notion that the antisemitic protests on campuses that seek to legitimize Islamist terror against Israelis won’t eventually morph into support for violence against Jews and others in the United States. It has, after all, happened before, when leftist anti-war groups split into violent and non-violent factions in the 1960s. The mainstreaming of radical ideologies, in addition to antisemitic narratives and smears, such as has been seen in the last 15 months, creates an atmosphere in which “lone wolf” supporters of ISIS and other terrorists may feel justified in taking the leap from sympathy for violent extremism to doing it themselves.

With so much of the media and law enforcement unwilling to take the risk of being falsely tarred with the Islamophobia label, it will be easy for Americans to move on from the New Orleans attack without drawing any conclusions about it. But efforts to keep tabs on a Hamas support network that has already exhibited a willingness to use violence and intimidation to get its way ought to be a priority for the incoming administration of President-elect Donald Trump. That should involve a policy of defunding institutions that turn a blind eye to antisemitism and deporting foreign students who are advocates of terror.

If that happens, expect it to be attacked as Islamophobic and xenophobic, and for unfairly targeting Muslims and “critics” of Israel. But sensible persons will understand that the New Orleans massacre is a wake-up call. The threat that a chorus of support for hatred and violence could lead to Islamist terror in the United States is something that a rational government can’t ignore.

Jonathan S. Tobin is editor-in-chief of JNS (Jewish News Syndicate). Follow him: @jonathans_tobin.

https://www.jns.org/connect-the-dots-between-new-orleans-and-support-for-anti-israel-terror/

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Hitler speech translated into English
« Reply #1187 on: January 04, 2025, 07:02:44 AM »

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Re: Hitler speech translated into English
« Reply #1188 on: January 04, 2025, 11:08:52 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2R2Xeo8HX8

Wow. It begs a few questions in follow up but I don't think I want this madman to inspire discussion.

I didn't know Jewish was a race, but he thought German was a race.  I don't answer the race question on the census or anywhere else. We still obsess on it.

Did Jews cause inflation or did policies cause inflation?  Small factual error there.

Were his predecessors in office Jewish?  (No.)  Near as I can tell, he was the first Jewish Chancellor of Germany, and kept that part of his background pretty quiet.

How could that resonate with people? In Western Europe. In recent history. I get that they were looking for someone to blame. People might want to slow the flow of any migration .But hate/blame makes no sense. Yet we see what people fall for hate and blame today. I hate bad policies.

If all of World War II were a work of fiction, I would dismiss it as too far-fetched, unrealistic, unbelievable, not worth watching. That could never happen...
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Re: Anti-semitism & Jews
« Reply #1189 on: January 05, 2025, 04:48:10 AM »
Jude Wanniski (who became a vicious anti-semite in his later years btw) in his outstanding book "The Way the World Works" has an in depth discussion of the Treaty of Versailles, the Weimar inflation, and things that flowed from them.

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Harvard signs some hidden agreement for anti semitism
« Reply #1190 on: January 22, 2025, 12:25:15 PM »
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/harvard-settles-antisemitism-lawsuits-agrees-to-increase-protections-for-jewish-students/

I must say I don't like at all we don't get to here what the payment was .  Not sure if we will here what promises for more protection were.

Why does Harvard get to do this in secret?   Darn them.


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« Reply #1191 on: January 22, 2025, 08:17:28 PM »
I get the frustration but settlements often/usually have an NDA.

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The Difficult Question about Auschwitz that remains unanswered
« Reply #1192 on: January 29, 2025, 08:06:20 AM »
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2l0exprq5ro?fbclid=IwY2xjawIFIbBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHdTbMQG_CoyVxCz0Nq2Jemk5cnjfydBX4hBnJqTye6L1BKPx_shCzNTphA_aem_0f9k0uvtFFplEFZAfb-NQA

The difficult question about Auschwitz that remains unanswered


BBC Black and white image of the gates to Auschwitz with the sign: "Arbeit Macht Frei."BBC

January 27 was formally designated Holocaust Memorial Day by a resolution of the General Assembly of the United Nations in 2005. But how we remember the Holocaust has evolved over the decades and even now - some 80 years on - it is a story of remembrance that is still unfinished.

"Dear boy," the short handwritten note from 1942 begins, "I was delighted with your May message. I'm healthy. I hope that I can stay here and see you again. I remain hopeful. Please write. Greetings, your father."

The note is one of thousands of documents held by the Wiener Holocaust Library in London, one of the world's largest Holocaust archives.

The Jewish man who wrote it was called Alfred Josephs, and he was sending it to his teenage son Wolfgang, who had escaped with his mother to England. Alfred had been arrested and was being held in the Westerbork detention camp in The Netherlands.

He was still, at the time, able to pass short messages through the Red Cross.

The Wiener Holocaust Library Alfred Josephs’ last message to his son written on torn paper which has been preserved by The Weiner Holocaust Library.The Wiener Holocaust Library

In this letter Alfred Josephs said he was fine. It was the last message his son Wolfgang would ever receive from his father
What Alfred didn't know was that Westerbork was a camp whose inmates were to be transported to Auschwitz. Wolfgang would never hear from his father again.

At first, Auschwitz was used by the Germans to house Polish prisoners of war. After Nazi Germany attacked the Soviet Union, it became a labour camp, where many inmates were worked to death. The Nazis called this "annihilation by labour".

But what it became by 1942 is the Auschwitz that sits in our shared memory, for by now it was an extermination camp, whose main purpose was mass murder.

Getty Images One prison block and double line of electric fencing at Auschwitz Concentration Camp in PolandGetty Images
Auschwitz became a labour camp, having initially been used by the Germans to house Polish prisoners of war
Newsreel filmed by the allies after the liberation of Europe shows German civilians being forced to visit the camps by the troops.

"It was only a short walk from any German city to the nearest concentration camp," says the American voice-over. The camera catches relaxed, smartly dressed Germans laughing and chatting as they make their way.

They walk past the corpses, piles of emaciated men and women, men and women who may even have been their neighbours, colleagues, friends in the past. The camera that had captured their relaxed, easy smiles before they entered the camps now records their horror.

Shock registers on their faces. Some weep. Others shake their heads, fold handkerchiefs to their faces and look away.

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Auschwitz was liberated by Soviet troops on 27 January 1945. Posterity honours the memory of the victims each year on the anniversary
Post-war Europe looked at this horror and acknowledged the depth of the suffering. But how did post-war Europe make sense of the perpetrators?

When we talk of industrialised killing, we don't just mean the scale of it, vast though it was. We also mean the sophistication of its organisation: the division of labour, the allocation of specialist tasks, the efficient marshalling of resources, the meticulous planning that was needed to keep the wheels of the killing machine turning.

Those same newsreels show well-fed Nazi guards, both men and women, now in allied custody.

What was the nature of the moral collapse that turned this horror into a normality for the Nazis who ran these camps, a normality in which mass murder became, for them, all in a day's work?

This is a question that has been touched on many times before but even now, some 80 years after the liberation of Auschwitz, has yet to be fully comprehended.

Turning away from a hard question
For years after the war, public attention turned away from this question, but also away from trying to understand the question of what had happened more broadly.

Though some Nazi war criminals were prosecuted, the new priority, in a Europe divided by the Cold War, was to turn West Germany into a democratic ally.

The Holocaust almost disappeared from popular memory, in much of the Western world. The post-war public wanted to turn the page on the war. In popular culture, in Britain, for example, the appetite was for stories that could be celebrated and cheered.

"The culture of memory of the Second World War was still emphasising heroism," says Dr Toby Simpson, the director of the Wiener Holocaust Library. "There was an emphasis on the Normandy landings, for example.

"And in the stories that the survivors wanted to tell there was very little heroism to be found in a story where they've been stripped of their humanity, agency, their choice. They'd been turned into a non-person."

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Primo Levi initially struggled to find a publisher for his book, If This is a Man
The Italian survivor, Primo Levi, wrote his Auschwitz memoir If This Is A Man immediately after the war. He had been one of a few thousand still at Auschwitz when Soviet troops arrived on 27 January 1945.

Most prisoners had been forced to march west, towards Germany, in freezing winter weather. Already weakened by camp conditions, many died on the way in what came to be known as the Death Marches. Levi was too sick and Soviet troops found him close to death in the camp infirmary.

'Not forgiving and not forgetting'
Today, If This is a Man is regarded as a masterpiece of survivor testimony and one of the most important memoirs of the entire era. But in 1947, Primo Levi found it hard to find a publisher, even in his native Italy.

Finally, a small independent publisher in Turin published it in a print run of 2,500. It sold 1,500 copies then disappeared. For publishers, and for the public, it was still too soon. Few, it seemed, wanted to look.

"Primo Levi didn't sell because the time wasn't right and because he was too great a writer to give a heroic answer. His answer is greater than heroism," says Jay Winter, professor of history Emeritus at Yale University. Many of Prof Winter's mother's family were killed in the Holocaust.

He adds: "A lot of people turned Primo Levi into a saint but all you have to do is to read the poem at the beginning of If This is a Man to see that he is not forgiving anybody - he is not forgiving and not forgetting."

Getty Images View of the barbed wire at Auschwitz-Birkenau. Snow is falling.
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"Primo Levi didn't sell because the time wasn't right and because he was too great a writer to give a heroic answer," says Professor Jay Winter
"There was Holocaust memorialisation in the 1950s," says Prof David Feldman at Birkbeck University in London, "but it was something that was done by Jews themselves, in small fragmented groups.

"These were occasions of mourning more than memorialisation. The idea that we have now, of memorialisation, that somehow there are lessons to be drawn from the Holocaust, was not commonplace then".

According to Prof Winter: "The countries that were reconstructing… needed a myth of resistance, of heroic armed conflict against the Nazis or Italian fascists." That myth of resistance "had no place for concentration camp inmates".

A cultural shift in attitudes
Only in the 1960s did popular interest return. When Israeli agents captured Adolf Eichmann, a key figure in the extermination campaign, they put him on trial in Jerusalem, and televised it. Now, Holocaust memorialisation began to reach the wider public.

Through the Eichmann trial, the new mass medium of television brought survivors' testimony into the living rooms of the western world.

It coincided, too, with a cultural shift in public attitudes to war. A generation born in the aftermath of World War Two were coming of age in the 1960s.

Benjamin Britten's War Requiem incorporated the words of the World War One poet Wilfred Owen - whose poetry had also faded from popular consciousness - to a new generation. Anti-war sentiment was fuelled further by the US involvement in Vietnam.

Getty Images Adolf Eichmann stands in his bullet-proof glass cage to hear Israel's Supreme Court unanimously reject an appeal against his death sentence. With him are two armed guards. Getty Images
The televising of Adolf Eichmann's trial in Jerusalem helped spread Holocaust memorialisation to the wider public
"I would say the Eichmann trial also brought perpetrators into people's living rooms," says Prof Feldman. "Survivors' testimony and the emphasis on survivors being central to Holocaust memorialisation came later. It developed slowly in the 1960s. By the 1990s it was well established."

The Holocaust story - at last - took its place in our collective consciousness.

From the 1960s onwards, Levi's memoir found a global readership. Anne Frank's father Otto had also struggled, in the early post-war period, to find a publisher for his daughter's diary. To date it has sold an estimated 30 million copies.

What became of Alfred Josephs
As for Wolfgang Josephs, as late as August 1946, he was still hoping against hope that he might find his father alive. He received a typewritten note from the British Red Cross. It informed him, with regret, that Red Cross officials in Europe had searched the lists of survivors, and his father's name was not among them.

Wolfgang anglicised his name to Peter Johnson and settled in the UK, at a time when few in the western world wanted to hear the stories of those who had witnessed, or survived, the Holocaust. He donated his family papers to the Wiener Holocaust Library, which remains a vast repository of evidence of the darkest period in Europe's history.

Now, 80 years on, there are so few survivors left that soon the duty to remember will pass to posterity.

"I think remembering the Holocaust is even more important now," says Dr Simpson, "because it happened at such a scale, and with such an intensity of hatred, that [there is still] the need to understand, to explain this continent-wide event in which six million Jews were murdered." And so too is there still a need to fully comprehend how to make sense of the perpetrators - and the nature of the moral collapse that enabled this to take place.

As Primo Levi wrote: "The injury cannot be healed. It extends through time."

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« Reply #1193 on: January 30, 2025, 08:56:41 AM »
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Trump orders crackdown on campus anti-Semitism: Donald Trump signed an executive order on Wednesday targeting foreign nationals residing in the U.S. who promoted or were involved in anti-Semitic protests on college campuses across the country following Hamas's October 7, 2023, terrorist attack on Israel. According to the White House, the Justice Department will "aggressively prosecute terroristic threats, arson, vandalism and violence against American Jews." Regarding his order, Trump stated, "To all the resident aliens who joined the pro-jihadist protests, we put you on notice: Come 2025 we will find you and we will deport you. I will also quickly cancel the student visas of all Hamas sympathizers on college campuses, which have been infested with radicalism like never before." The order also directs the DOJ to investigate pro-Hamas vandalism and intimidation on college campuses.