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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3002 on: December 17, 2020, 05:34:08 PM »
https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/16/connaughton-conservatives-should-think-before-canceling-fox-news/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=recaps&pnespid=jPUwsulGHxSNNjNQwdsJfUv5GvfHNUPPNGHBMcxs

There is absolutely nothing wrong with voting with your wallets or your channel choices. FIX News fcuked on on election night with their BS coverage and now they are reaping the consequences.

Not sorry to see them bleeding ratings and money.

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They are both linguistically talented
« Reply #3004 on: December 19, 2020, 09:24:51 AM »
They are two front and center examples of smart people who look at the same facts and derive completely different conclusions.

It would be interesting to see a "debate" between the

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/republicans/tucker-carlson-net-worth/

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rachel-maddow-net-worth/

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election fraud denier: Joshua Klein
« Reply #3007 on: December 26, 2020, 06:00:17 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/12/21/wapo-depicts-republican-collaborators-rats-nazi-style/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/25/washington-post-denying-election-results-is-like-denying-holocaust/

this guy Josh Klein is a child of holocaust survivors

now this Democrat lover is comparing TRump and anyone who supports him to rats and Nazis

as a Jew I feel I can call him out :
dumb ass jew

I don't apologize
Elie Wiesel who is head and shoulders above Klein knew better.

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Re: election fraud deniers, a deplorable lack of curiosity
« Reply #3008 on: December 26, 2020, 07:37:26 AM »
ccp, Just want to say I like the title, election fraud deniers.  Yes, that is the side in denial.  Without doubt there was widespread fraud fraud and without doubt it was one sided.  Without doubt there is conspiracy of news and information sources to cover it up.  I can't help but wonder when we speak of our Democratic friends or honest Dems who just see issues from a different point of view, why are you in denial?  Why don't you want to know what happened?  Why don't you want everyone to know what happened?

What were all the efforts from the beginning to loosen all fraud protection like declaring ID laws racist?  Isn't THAT racist?  Then to keep widening the timeframe of the election and to try to make it all vote by mail and vote by stranger collection and dropoff.  Good God.  These are not efforts to build confidence or accuracy in elections. These are the setups for fraud.  If you are the enabler, you are the co-conspirator.

Then with everything bad that is political, the first words out of the 'honest' supporters is that both sides do it.  No they don't.  There isn't some rural precinct where the split is 80-20 in favor of Trump that had more votes counted than eligible voters.  The filth happened in 6 big Dem cities in divided, plus a few others in blue states.  Nowhere else.

Was it enough fraud that it swung the result?  We don't know for sure. How can we know without investigating.  But why deny what we do know?  Why not look into it as far as you can?

Taking from the words of Capt. von Trapp not asking the Nazis why they are at his gate with their lights off, Democrats and media, redundancy apology, suffer from a deplorable lack of curiosity.

I would call it a dangerous lack of curiosity.  How is a fraudulent takeover of America any less dangerous than every other fascist, communist or totalitarian takeover?

Famous last words, it can't happen here.  We're too what?  Virtuous?  Apparently not.

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Then with everything bad that is political, the first words out of the 'honest'
« Reply #3009 on: December 26, 2020, 09:00:42 AM »
YES ! 

a typical liberal ploy

they NEVER admit one inch to anything
then finally to cut you off or to blow you off they will
 say well, "both sides do it!"

Libs are not open minded

their way or the high way
no in between


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newsworthy
« Reply #3011 on: December 30, 2020, 07:02:21 AM »

Trump did not like Melania's color changes at Mar a Lago

so CNN continues to insult and berate not Trump but the 74 million + of us who voted for him

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-ordered-mar-lago-staff-104345465.html

CNN surely does not care how much they are hated

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Re: newsworthy
« Reply #3012 on: December 30, 2020, 08:33:02 AM »

Trump did not like Melania's color changes at Mar a Lago

so CNN continues to insult and berate not Trump but the 74 million + of us who voted for him

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-ordered-mar-lago-staff-104345465.html

CNN surely does not care how much they are hated

CNN couldn't get Russian collusion or vote fraud right but they are certain on who ordered what redecorations when.  Is this the coverage their readers viewers crave?  Which CNN reporters was in the private Trump residence for corroboration, or did they just rush to press to beat the enquirer, truth be damned?

Is dark wood and white marble on the way in or out?  I don't even know who is right here.

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Trump charges $ 1,000 for Mar a Lago NY eve party- so what
« Reply #3013 on: December 31, 2020, 08:33:22 AM »
So I looked at what  mrs baraq
charges, not for a full night of entertainment, but to listen to her  speak for not sure how long:

$ 67 at least and average 267 .

where are the headlines with the implied outrage ?
https://www.vividseats.com/theatre/michelle-obama-tickets.html


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Fareeeeeeeeed
« Reply #3015 on: January 03, 2021, 08:41:28 AM »
".'Dirty Little Secret'—Trump Was Tough on Russia!"

Are you kidding me.

and whose secret Fareed ?  -> your lying fake news station and the 95 % of the rest of the media

he would never have "spilled the beans" on the "dirty little secret"  2 mo ago

dirty bastards

and what really weird thing did he just say on CNN about US - CHina relations - I can't find it now

Something about Obama people were fooled by China and now they will have to get tough but very carefully as not to offend China or something absurd etc.






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Re: Fareeeeeeeeed
« Reply #3016 on: January 03, 2021, 09:16:09 AM »
".'Dirty Little Secret'—Trump Was Tough on Russia!"

ccp: "Are you kidding me.
and whose secret Fareed ?  -> your lying fake news station and the 95 % of the rest of the media ..."

Readers of the forum knew. Trump governed exactly the opposite of what a Putin puppet would have done, starting with shrinking their main revenue source with his advocacy of fracking and US energy production.
"Oil and gas make up 59% of Russia's exports"
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/russia-economy-facts-2019-4-1028116037

He stood up to them on the Russian German pipeline, NATO funding, NATO expansion and on missile defense, to name a few.

If you were a Russian (or Chinese) puppet, what US policies would you pursue? Coincidentally it perfectly matches the Biden Harris agenda.  Will THAT ever come up on Fareeed's network?

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth, coverage of latest Trump phone call
« Reply #3017 on: January 04, 2021, 08:45:02 AM »
The latest Trump phone call in the news with the Georgia Sec of State was about fighting and correcting opposition committed vote fraud, getting the count accurate, and was not at all about asking him to commit a crime on his behalf, as portrayed by the press including the partial sentence I heard on Fox radio news.

After fully explaining what he was talking about he said find 14,000 votes.  That meant you don't have to prove all three hundred thousand bad ballots that were cast, you can stop when you prove the threshold plus one.

What else would be the objective of an election challenge?

Trump knew there were lawyers and participants on the call.  This wasn't some secret, criminal effort.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3018 on: January 04, 2021, 09:15:13 AM »
Amen and Awoman.

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yahoo news
« Reply #3019 on: January 05, 2021, 06:30:38 AM »
every bit as much BS as DNCCNN
 has their company of millennials

who are anti conservative right their biased opinions

this one from the girly millennial going after right wing news sites

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-pandemic-relief-aid-went-to-media-that-promoted-covid-misinformation-100022099.html

if she hates USA as it is now just wait
till she gets real taste of socialism
and one party controlled leadership

and I should add
once her college tuition debt is pain courtesy of tax payers and those who do pay their tuition

she , like Charlton Heston who was warned by Dr Zalus in 'Planet of the Apes ',

 "Don't look for it, [Taylor]. You may not like what you find."
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Media diverted while corona went viral
« Reply #3020 on: January 05, 2021, 08:09:34 AM »
Tucker clip had this.  While coronavirus was the biggest emerging threat in the world, Democrats and media (redundancy alert) forced all US attention to impeachment over an innocent phone call.

The 'first case' was tracked back to Nov 17 2019 (or earlier):
https://www.dtnext.in/News/World/2020/03/13123650/1219836/Chinas-1st-COVID19-case-traced-back-to-Nov-2019.vpf
On December 27, Zhang Jixian, a doctor from Hubei Provincial Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine, told Chinese health authorities that the disease was caused by a new coronavirus. 

Fox News Jan 3, 2020:
https://www.foxnews.com/health/mysterious-respiratory-illness-china-food-market-sickens-44-officials

CNN Jan 7, (someone there watches Fox):
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/06/health/china-pneumonia-intl-hnk/index.html

Compare that to their coverage of the impeachment trial conducted January 16 – February 5, 2020. A thousand time more coverage, or was it more?

Tragically, the virus had been spreading for months before it was brought to out attention by our asleep at the wheel press.  Not one western media outlet had a reporter embedded in Hubei Province, a world trading, urban center 7 times the population of London?  The world lost months of containment and preparedness as the story, not the virus, was contained.

How come our media's collaboration with Communist China failed to yield a 'scoop'?
https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html

By Feb 1, the Washington Post knew the pandemic was made hundreds of times worse by the false information and coverup of the Chinese regime:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/01/early-missteps-state-secrecy-china-likely-allowed-coronavirus-spread-farther-faster/
Now back to impeachment coverage.

The phone call!  Can you believe Trump wanted corruption investigated?  In the Ukraine!!

By summer, even the Democrat Party at the Dem National Convention were silent on their own impeachment accomplishment and 100% focused on blaming the Wuhan virus on Trump.  Likewise with the media.  Right out of Orwell.

Yet the death toll might be 95% lower if China hadn't lied or if an investigative media, if we had one, had called them out early on those blatant lies.  China didn't know it spread person to person until late January even while everyone involved included four jailed doctors could see it go viral?
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2020/03/covid-19-china.page

Our media didn't know?  Or were they just too busy?
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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3021 on: January 05, 2021, 09:47:34 AM »
".Yet the death toll might be 95% lower if China hadn't lied or if an investigative media"

you mean the country that sealed of Beijing to protect top CCP members
yet let corona positive people fly all over the world ....   :-(

and Wall Street of course yawns and keeps funding the DNC





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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3027 on: January 10, 2021, 08:09:29 AM »


On your left, E. Lake St and Minnehaha, former 3rd precinct station Minneapolis Police Department, burning to the ground.

On your right, Trump supporters wearing masks, outdoors, waving American flags, traveled to Washington to support their candidate and ensure honest elections.

Simplified for you by the media... On your left, good.  On your right, evil.

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noonan; ultimate DC cocktail party attendee
« Reply #3028 on: January 10, 2021, 03:57:52 PM »
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/01/10/peggy-noonan-trump-deserves-exceptional-dishonor-of-a-second-impeachment/

while I am tired of DJT too,
lets focus on the liberals
and the way forward from here

she has been on my no read list for a long time now

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Taibbi: We need new media system
« Reply #3030 on: January 11, 2021, 09:53:26 PM »

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Re: Taibbi: We need new media system
« Reply #3031 on: January 11, 2021, 10:16:36 PM »
Some telling passages mixed in here:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/we-need-new-media-system-taibbi

When Matt Taibbi is a voice of reason, it tells you how fucked we are.

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Re: Taibbi: We need new media system
« Reply #3032 on: January 12, 2021, 06:40:19 AM »
Some telling passages mixed in here:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/we-need-new-media-system-taibbi

Matt Taibbi:
“The moment a group of people stormed the Capitol building last Wednesday, news companies began the process of sorting and commoditizing information that long ago became standard in American media. Media firms work backward. They first ask, “How does our target demographic want to understand what’s just unfolded?” Then they pick both the words and the facts they want to emphasize……What happened last Wednesday was the apotheosis of the Hate Inc. era, when this audience-first model became the primary means of communicating facts to the population. For a hundred reasons dating back to the mid-eighties, from the advent of the Internet to the development of the 24-hour news cycle to the end of the Fairness Doctrine and the Fox-led discovery that news can be sold as character-driven, episodic TV in the manner of soap operas, the concept of a “Just the facts” newscast designed to be consumed by everyone died out.’

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3033 on: January 13, 2021, 08:55:58 PM »
The media said, "baseless allegations" maybe a hundred thousand times.

Why don't they now say, 'meaningless impeachments'?

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Media, How about unbiased news, or at least real balance that matches the nation
« Reply #3034 on: January 18, 2021, 07:15:59 AM »
https://omaha.com/business/local/joe-ricketts-is-launching-a-national-news-outlet-based-in-omaha/article_117fe584-55e5-11eb-9f6b-9349abea2fd7.html

LINCOLN — Billionaire businessman and philanthropist Joe Ricketts is preparing another venture into the news business, and he’s chosen Omaha as his launching pad.

Ricketts is hiring staff to launch an online national news outlet called Straight Arrow News that he said will do what other outlets aren’t doing — providing news without a political slant.

“I think there’s a gap in the market — there’s no source for unbiased, fact-based news. And I believe there’s a business opportunity there,” he said.

“Some people say you can’t have unbiased news. I want to prove them wrong with Straight Arrow News,” he said.

In the past few weeks, online job advertisements have been posted for a video editor, senior producer, news reporter, and motion graphics designer/producer for Straightarrownews.com. The ads say the endeavor will be “dedicated to unbiased, nonpartisan reporting” and is projected to start in February.
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There is a real need for this, news without slant.  We'll see if they can do it.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3035 on: January 18, 2021, 01:42:50 PM »
CNN losing / giving up its airports contract.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-01-12/cnn-is-shutting-down-its-airport-network-on-mar-31

30 years.  Done.

"citing pandemic and streaming", [and bad programming].
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Media, Ministry of Truth, Beyond bias or slant, everyone who disagrees is wrong.
« Reply #3036 on: January 19, 2021, 11:08:57 AM »
NPR Today:

"Even though the election was not close, 70% of Republicans believe the falsehood that the election was stolen."   - MORE-ah LIES-en reporting.

   - THIS is inciteful on so many levels.  If we are wrongly thinking the election was stolen, maybe it's because you people are acting like fascists covering up the stealing of an election.
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bad orange man trying to "sabotage "
« Reply #3037 on: January 20, 2021, 07:19:55 AM »
never heard a peep about this when Obama

was president ( and after he left )

when he was *sabotaging Trump *
and Republicans every step of the way

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-admin-trying-sabotage-biden-100005285.html

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Maintaining their standards!
« Reply #3038 on: January 20, 2021, 11:34:11 AM »

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some even lied about what he said
« Reply #3039 on: January 20, 2021, 12:54:35 PM »
Early on he spoke of white supremacy
etc

and later someone says he never brought it up

others, he never mentioned Trump by name
or "impeachment"

I suppose that is their idea of "olive branch"

as he in Obama fashion than goes behind a wall at WH and signs 15 Leftist agenda executive orders,,,,

I never like Chris Wallace.  Now I despise him.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3040 on: January 21, 2021, 01:39:46 AM »
https://amgreatness.com/2021/01/20/fox-news-purge-begins/

Not sure how accurate all of this is so FWIW.

PS:  I like Martha McCallum.


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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues, Cafe76.org, Patrick Pu
« Reply #3041 on: January 21, 2021, 08:18:21 AM »
'Our' Pat is setting up new shop at:

Cafe76.org

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3042 on: January 22, 2021, 06:03:49 AM »
Biden fist-bumps members of the media during inaugural parade
As a military procession and parade escorted President Joe Biden's motorcade to the White House for the first time as President, Biden and his family exited their vehicles to walk the final stretch.
Source: CNN

Celebrating a win with his teammates.

The game is softball.  Question asked by the media, Mr. President, are you going to unite the country?

Unspoken answer:  No.

At this point in the Trump Presidency, the media was calling for his impeachment.

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while Mr President and "Dr. Biden"
« Reply #3043 on: January 22, 2021, 06:25:34 AM »
walk from Capital to WH to immediately sign leftist legislation while pretending he is going to unify us  :roll:

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/joe-biden-al-roker-inaugural-parade-fist-bump-b1790326.html

PS
I would have loved to write a term paper that could have been done in 2 weeks to get the title of "doctor"
 elites things we can't have .........
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Mis-Trust of Media
« Reply #3044 on: January 22, 2021, 07:48:03 AM »
For the first time ever, fewer than half of all Americans have trust in traditional media, according to data from Edelman's annual trust barometer shared exclusively with Axios. Trust in social media has hit an all-time low of 27%. Fifty-six percent of Americans agree with the statement that "Journalists and reporters are purposely trying to mislead people by saying things they know are false or gross exaggerations." Fifty-eight percent think that "most news organizations are more concerned with supporting an ideology or political position than with informing the public." When Edelman re-polled Americans after the election, the figures had deteriorated even further, with 57% of Democrats trusting the media and only 18% of Republicans.
https://www.axios.com/media-trust-crisis-2bf0ec1c-00c0-4901-9069-e26b21c283a9.html
https://www.axios.com/trust-crisis-government-business-media-2e614f4b-0bc4-4f3b-97ea-5eac34ea09fc.html



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Media silence on Pelosi Tesla scandal
« Reply #3049 on: February 02, 2021, 01:31:39 PM »
The local paper didn't find reason to cover it:
https://www.startribune.com/search/?q=pelosi+tesla
 ALL SECTIONS SEARCH STAR TRIBUNE
Results: pelosi tesla
Sorry, your search for 'pelosi tesla' did not match any documents

Nothing at NYT either:  https://www.nytimes.com/search?query=pelosi+tesla

Hard to discuss news when one side has a blackout.

Like ccp says, nothing to see here folks, move along.