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GWB Judge hits back at biased media
« Reply #3102 on: March 20, 2021, 07:57:48 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/media/federal-judge-laurence-silberman

and Jewish too ! :))))))))
and Harvard grad !  :))))))))))))))))))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Silberman

good to hear justice hit back at DNC media propaganda machine



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Re: GWB Judge hits back at biased media
« Reply #3103 on: March 20, 2021, 06:31:43 PM »
Nice to hear of a good judge.  Too bad his view is in dissent, not the majority opinion of the court.


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murder rates up across the board
« Reply #3105 on: March 24, 2021, 09:06:26 AM »
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/murder-rate-jumps-back-1990s-levels-fbi-data

MSM : this is due to hate and guns!!!!!  March on !!!!!!

Fact check - no it is due to leftish policies!  beat them back !!!!!1


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CNN
« Reply #3106 on: March 24, 2021, 09:10:17 PM »


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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3108 on: March 26, 2021, 04:14:45 AM »
I was left with the impression the whole press conference was a staged practice perfromance
and the press were supporting actors
while the lead actor played a part

questions were made to look tough but always delivered in a respectful way leaving the door open for any answer to be acceptable to them .

I don't recall any pushing or prodding
no real follow up
no accusations similar to were hurtled to DJT  75 % of the time
unlike DJT who would call on enemy jurnolists Biden would go down a list of pre picked names that were in the *script*

Even for this we are told he had to take days to rehearse

the country is executive branch is being run by a nameless non elected band of communists
who like the CCP are covering and lying about what they are really doing.


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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3110 on: March 26, 2021, 07:04:22 AM »
maybe some bid Leftist tech "titan " will buy them out for beans
to promote the leftist tech agenda

maybe Carlos Slim would buy it out
make primary language Spanish and readership will skyrocket


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Re: OAN: Atlanta newspaper issues retraction
« Reply #3112 on: April 01, 2021, 06:38:31 PM »
https://www.oann.com/atlanta-based-news-outlet-retracts-false-claims-about-new-ga-elections-law-limiting-times-and-voter-access/

Did they admit they lied and contact everyone who publicly repeated their falsehood?   Makes you wonder, what else are they lying about?

Will President B retract his cancellation of Georgia?  Is divide really the game he wants to play?

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PJ media : lester holt
« Reply #3113 on: April 02, 2021, 06:05:53 AM »
https://pjmedia.com/columns/stacey-lennox/2021/04/01/nbcs-lester-holt-apparently-thinks-youre-too-ignorant-to-hear-unfiltered-information-and-evaluate-it-n1436746

cry baby holt cannot get over that he and his liberal propagandists cannot control the flow of news or information any more.

This makes me ponder the past when most if not all the news flowed the AP or networks TV news stations

In those days we did not know that Cronkite was a flaming liberal;  perhaps because he tried to report the new s ; not make it ; shape it; or distort it like now

or did he?

maybe we were hearing more propaganda then we ever knew back then



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not white tied to Nation of Islam
« Reply #3114 on: April 02, 2021, 02:53:08 PM »
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-capitol-lockdown-security-threat_n_6067516cc5b6832c7936ce10

does not appear to be proud boy

thus "the attack does not appear to be terrorist related"

right


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Media, Ministry of Truth Issues, The Taranto Principle
« Reply #3116 on: April 05, 2021, 04:46:46 PM »
"According to the Taranto Principle, the press's failure to hold left-wingers accountable for bad behavior merely encourages the left's bad behavior to the point that its candidates are repellent to ordinary Americans."
   - https://www.nysun.com/opinion/the-taranto-principle/86573/

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues, The Taranto Principle
« Reply #3117 on: April 05, 2021, 06:27:24 PM »
"According to the Taranto Principle, the press's failure to hold left-wingers accountable for bad behavior merely encourages the left's bad behavior to the point that its candidates are repellent to ordinary Americans."
   - https://www.nysun.com/opinion/the-taranto-principle/86573/

The dem vote fraud machine makes that irrelevant.

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"60 Minutes is Toast", the fall of Dan Rather, 2004
« Reply #3118 on: April 08, 2021, 12:23:34 PM »
This story needs to be told and studied, brought back to relevance by the new 60 Minutes smear on Gov DeSantis.

The story starts around 10:00 in the video linked below.  It starts with the context of a string of other false accusations against the Bush administration all pushed by big media against a Republican administration, Joe Wilson, Valerie Plame, etc. that make this fraud unsurprising.  Then they tell the story of how a dozen or more falsehoods were exposed that proved the incriminating document to be a fraud. The officer writing it retired a year earlier; the font it is written with wasn't invented until decades later, etc.  Mostly it proved CBS had no journalistic standards whatsoever when it came to bringing down their adversary.  CBS let the false story sit 12 days (coming into an election) and never did admit the 'error'.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?185831-1/internet-journalism-news

Powerline Post: "The 61st Minute"
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2004/09/007699.php

NY Times story on the false documents, "Fake but Accurate", whatever that means.
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/15/us/the-2004-campaign-national-guard-memos-on-bush-are-fake-but-accurate-typist-says.html


With contrast to Trump and now DeSantis, this was not President Bush fighting back.  This was people in places like this doing that for him.
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Quality Read: How to have a trustworthy press
« Reply #3121 on: April 11, 2021, 02:16:07 PM »
Must the Justices Create a Trustworthy Press?
Why not just hire smart people and ask them (or free them) to do honest reporting?

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No writ exists in the Constitution for journalism’s holy of holies, the 1964 Times v. Sullivan Supreme Court ruling that allows us falsely to defame public figures as long as we do so without “actual malice.” Such is a longstanding argument given new currency by veteran federal appeals judge Laurence Silberman in a dissenting opinion already covered repeatedly in these pages.

And yet constitutional matters aside, the Supreme Court in 1964 defined a pretty good standard if journalists cared to adopt it. It requires them really to care whether what they are reporting is true.

Alas, counterexamples are a daily occurrence. The now-independent journalist Andrew Sullivan details the media’s insistence on characterizing, without evidence, the Atlanta shooter as racially motivated. The now-independent journalist Glenn Greenwald dismantles a Vox journalist’s video clip suggesting a sheriff’s deputy flippantly said the shooter “had a bad day.” (The full video shows he was faithfully conveying what the shooter himself had stated.)

The now-independent journalist Bari Weiss examines the media’s concealment of the fact that many “racist” assaults on Asian-Americans are carried out by blacks. Mr. Greenwald returns to the fray to eviscerate journalists at CNN, MSNBC and NBC for claiming a U.S. intelligence report showed the Hunter Biden laptop story to be Russian disinformation (the report made no such claim).

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Here’s an example of my own: NPR’s Tom Gjelten, in an unctuous sermon in which he lets us know he prefers what he imagines to be Joe Biden’s refugee policy to Donald Trump’s , intones, “In 2016, the last year of the Obama presidency, the United States resettled 85,000 refugees in this manner. But under Trump, the resettlement program was nearly shut down. Last year, fewer than 12,000 refugees were admitted, the smallest number in the history of the U.S. refugee program.”

You have to be some kind of journalist not to notice an intervening variable that might mess up the comparison, namely a global pandemic. In fact, the 12,611 who were admitted in the 2020 fiscal year were out of a mere 30,113 who applied, a 71% drop from the previous year for reasons enumerated in an annual report to Congress: “travel restrictions in and out of refugee processing sites worldwide,” “reduced flight availability,” a U.S. economic lockdown and school closures that made transferring to the U.S. less urgent.

The honest comparison would be to the pre-pandemic year of 2019, when the Trump administration admitted 92,623 refugees (i.e., human beings fleeing violence), a number the Obama team never approached in its best year.


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We should understand: In its currently diminished state, journalism’s narrative-itis is partly an economizing move. When a new story emerges, multiple reporters and editors have to invest in understanding its essence and details; they have to reach a consensus on how it should be reported. This takes time. People need to be paid. Good people cost more. Whereas no recrimination is possible if a narrative of racism is claimed or implied. That’s the great thing about “systemic racism.” We can assume its presence and never be wrong. No need ever to run a correction. No need to fall afoul of woke colleagues, which might cost us our jobs.

And journalists wonder why their work is so little prized by consumers. They wonder why their pay isn’t higher.


Whenever I touch on these subjects, readers email me to say journalism doesn’t pay; the smart kids go to Wall Street, Silicon Valley, medicine or law. An economist of international renown emails to say the same “brain drain” also afflicts teaching, politics and government. A reader scoffs that being a member of a profession means “accepting liability for one’s professional actions with appropriate levels of malpractice insurance. . . . Modern journalism is an industry, not a profession.”

And yet when it comes to CNN or the New York Times or the Washington Post, these are good jobs. They could attract good people if publishers decided they want independent, careful thinkers, not incurious conformists. Amid the travails of our industry, The Wall Street Journal never had to lower its hiring standards, though I understand the same might not be so of struggling regional papers like, oh, the Miami Herald.

An uninvited email arrived from the Society of Professional Journalists. It went: “To all journalists, everywhere, thank you, for your work, your dedication, your patience, your care, your camaraderie, your amazing ability to set aside your own emotions and pain [over the Jan. 6 Capitol riot].”

This absurd vanity is the flip side of a lack of courage. To be any kind of professional means being willing to tell the client a truth he doesn’t want to hear. All it would take to put our business back on track is a few top editors saying, “Let’s pride ourselves on the intellectual quality of our work—on putting only rigorously vetted factual and logical claims in front of the public.”



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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3124 on: April 13, 2021, 05:17:29 AM »
"Man gives CNN reporter more than she expected"

with her phony virtue signalling

"warning " the man he could get hurt from the firecrackers
  though he is standing 2 feet from her
  standing in the same spot

phony ass CNN BS


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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3126 on: April 14, 2021, 07:36:10 AM »
ccp:  "populist press which is over the top publication IMHO"

   - Yes, too bad.  We didn't need a publication that answers 'Asshole Trump did this today' with 'Scumbag Biden did that'.  We need real news sites that report what really happened without leaving out half the facts and screwing over the conservative point of view.




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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3130 on: April 16, 2021, 03:28:21 PM »
Fk.   :cry: for the woman.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3131 on: April 16, 2021, 03:43:59 PM »
where is the racist in chief
Baraq Obama
on this

absent as far as I know
when the story does not fit his race hustle

telling is it not
what an angry racist blow hard he is

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CNN pulling hair out since it is tough for them to race hustle this
« Reply #3132 on: April 22, 2021, 07:21:21 AM »
there is NOthing to criticize here (police officer handled this perfectly) so watch them go crazy over not being able to fit it into their usual race hustle narrative
they struggle not about the justification as much as they are annoyed they can't just hold this case up as another white officer murdering a black child:

https://populist.press/cnn-defends-columbus-officer-who-shot-makhia-bryant/

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Youthful hijinks!
« Reply #3133 on: April 22, 2021, 02:03:23 PM »
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/393534.php

No need for police involvement.

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Tucker program being attacked ?
« Reply #3134 on: April 23, 2021, 08:53:52 AM »
while watching Fox news and particularly Tucker I have notice this past week

delays of several seconds of audio or both video audio

occurring

I never see it on any other station

Are libs sabetoging his program?

Anyone else notice this ?

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New York Times Has Just Been Caught In Two Monstrous Lies
« Reply #3135 on: April 23, 2021, 09:23:24 AM »
Sicknick and Russian bounties.
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https://issuesinsights.com/2021/04/21/the-new-york-times-has-just-been-caught-in-two-monstrous-lies/

The New York Times Has Just Been Caught In Two Monstrous Lies

On Tuesday, the public learned that Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes. Just a few days before that, the public learned that the “Russian Bounty” story was fake. In other words, in the span of a week, the “newspaper of record” has been exposed for grossly misleading the public about two major stories — both designed to discredit President Donald Trump.
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NYT won the Pulitzer Prize as recently as April 2018 - also for lies:
https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/24/flashback-wapo-nyt-pulitzer-prize-trump-russia/

How do they worse than lie, but lie to advance a false narrative agenda and keep their good reputation among their highly educated readers?

Personally I hate being found to be wrong with what I say and write.  When it happens, I want it corrected instantly, even retroactively, and I wish it never happened.  I don't advance my agenda by being wrong on underlying facts.  And yet they have millions of readers, and an even bigger agenda, and seem to be perfectly comfortable being wrong, time after time after time.



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Phrase "the big lie"
« Reply #3138 on: April 24, 2021, 12:28:12 PM »
2020 election was stolen

CNN ----> The BIG LIE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

psst - those who believe that are Nazis.

 :wink:

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Would Fox please dump Juan Williams
« Reply #3140 on: April 28, 2021, 05:15:42 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-host-slams-network-coverage-false-stories-bidens-red-meat-plans-harriss-book-081127362.html

Leftist denier

no one who watches Fox listens to him

he is obviously part of the jorno list
  who unendingly attacks conservatives and disagrees with the hosts
  he is a pain in the ass plant
 
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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3141 on: April 28, 2021, 05:25:33 AM »
He is one of their token Democrats.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3142 on: April 28, 2021, 06:03:26 AM »
He is one of their token Democrats.
.

Yes, a house liberal, sort of a parody or parrot of liberal talking points.  It's a waste of viewer time giving him equal time with good guests and panelists. If he ever came over to reason he would be fired for  no longer being the house liberal. They should save the money and the pretense of balance and just show the liberal view on the screen straight from Biden, AOC, etc. and have people of reason and second level thinking answer it.

When was the last time Juan Williams won an argument on Fox?  How often did the Washington Generals beat the Harlem Globetrotters?  Once in 1971, they say.

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Juan
« Reply #3143 on: April 28, 2021, 06:46:50 AM »
".They should save the money and the pretense of balance "

yes

he is just totally annoying to viewers ; just there to piss us off ;
you know what crap will spill out of his bouche even before he opens it
If I wanted to hear that I would go to CommunistNewNetwork
or MSLSD

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3144 on: April 28, 2021, 07:03:19 AM »
Distorting the original meaning of the term, we can say he is a useful idiot.

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Media, Ministry of Truth, 60 Minutes, Princeton Professor says No Thank you
« Reply #3145 on: May 02, 2021, 06:12:55 AM »
Power Line
POSTED ON MAY 1, 2021 BY STEVEN HAYWARD IN FAKE NEWS, MEDIA, MEDIA BIAS
COUNTING THE WAYS WE HATE “60 MINUTES”—A NOTE FROM ROBBIE GEORGE
Needless to say, Power Line has a history with “60 Minutes.” Hence I thought it worth passing along a note from Robert P. George to “60 Minutes” this week. Prof. George—”Robbie” to his friends—is the McCormack Professor at Princeton, the chair originally created for Woodrow Wilson, and subsequently filled by Edward Corwin and now by Robbie. He is renowned for his genial nature (as you might expect from a proficient banjo player), and good relations with people on the left with whom he disagrees. He team-teaches a very popular course with the far-left Cornel West.

Thus, for Robbie to send this note to “60 Minutes” is remarkable:
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"Earlier this week I received an email message from a Producer at 60 Minutes requesting an interview for a segment they are working on concerning scientific developments in the area of embryo research. Here is my reply:"

Dear Mr. _________:
Thanks for your note.
I have been a professor for thirty-six years. I have been involved in a serious way in public affairs for nearly thirty. I have been interviewed in various media hundreds—perhaps thousands—of times. Most of those experiences have been fine. Even hostile interviewers have permitted me to present the case for my perspective on an issue or set of issues and, in nearly every case, quoted or reported what I said accurately. There was, however, one major exception. It was the worst experience I’ve ever had with media. I regret to say it was with 60 Minutes. And there is not the slightest doubt in my mind that it was driven by ideological bias.

As it happens, the subject was the very one about which you have written to me—the biological and moral status of the developing human embryo. I had served (or was serving—I can’t remember the timing) on the President’s Council on Bioethics and we had done a major report on embryonic stem cell research.

Things actually began well. I gave an hour long off-camera interview to someone associated with 60 Minutes (I’ve forgotten his name) who asked thoughtful, intelligent questions, listened carefully to my answers, and asked excellent follow-up questions that made clear that he understood my points. All this lulled me into thinking that this was a serious inquiry. Then came the on-camera interview with Lesley Stahl. It was a series of “gotcha questions” which revealed not the slightest acquaintance with what I had said in the pre-interview. Trying to answer such questions for a format such as 60 Minutes is simply hopeless. Exposing the mistaken or tendentious assumptions built into the questions exhausts one’s time and energy. I was stunned by the experience and, frankly, angered. The intensity of my anger increased when I saw the broadcast. The editing seemed designed to mislead viewers as to what my views and arguments were. I was appalled.

I said to myself then and there that I will never again have anything to do with 60 Minutes.
The recent business with Ron DeSantis brought memories of my unhappy (to say the least) experience with the show flooding back.

 The subject you have asked about is an important one and, as you noted, there have been significant recent developments pertaining to it. I would love to participate in an effort accurately to inform the public of these developments. I lack confidence, however, in 60 Minutes, and for that reason must decline.

Yours sincerely,
Robert George
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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3146 on: May 02, 2021, 09:32:51 AM »
Robbie George used to be a Dem:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_P._George

no conservative should ever go on 60 minutes again
  Fox perhaps should have a show that calls out 60 minutes perhaps



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Re: NYT and WaPo retract misintel lie about Rudy
« Reply #3148 on: May 03, 2021, 07:49:24 AM »
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/2/nyt-washington-post-retract-stories-giuliani-warne/?utm_source=Boomtrain&utm_medium=subscriber&utm_campaign=newsalert&utm_content=newsalert&utm_term=newsalert&bt_ee=%2BkpECHwPbnMSOsAU0GYkhfHX%2BvaNyM%2FkPmCx7UhtuK25QmONg495lcFJTzHxExHE&bt_ts=1619983947477

One point is that they are consistently wrong.  Another is that they seem to be in collusion with each other.

We are only getting belated retractions on the tip of the iceberg of their errors, where it can be demonstrably proven they are wrong.  What about the rest of it?  When they get it wrong, cf. Russian Collusion Pulitzer Prize, do they ever look deeper and investigate WHY did they get it wrong?  Is there a consequence for being wrong?  Anyone fired?  What about wrong by omission?  Did they ever report that we had the highest worker wage growth in decades, under Trump, pre-covid, after the so-called tax cuts?  Lowest unemployment rates of blacks and minorities?  Missed it.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3149 on: May 03, 2021, 07:56:26 AM »
".Another is that they seem to be in collusion with each other."

I love when Tucker has the montages of people from all over the media and DNC fronts
using the EXACT same words when putting the spin on the story