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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3352 on: February 17, 2022, 11:05:35 PM »
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/099/067/066/original/80a85c10181dc10d.png



Mr. Schott has gone to great efforts to hide his address. Most people can't find it using open sources.

I did.

So, is it morally correct to publicize his address and phone numbers?

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Not newsworthy!
« Reply #3353 on: February 18, 2022, 02:12:32 PM »

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ironic
« Reply #3354 on: February 18, 2022, 03:25:29 PM »
"The corrupt Jacobin media is cheerleading as their antifa/anonymous allies dox and abuse people for donating $40 to the Freedom Convoy, and cheerleading the tyrant Trudeau's seizing of bank accounts without legitimate authority to do so, but this -- bailing out a BLM assassin (and "journalist") and vicious antisemite, using funds provided by George Soros... this is, as they say, fine"

well if this guy who should NOT be out on bail
is mad the Jews are controlling politics

as I have myself said
they do wield a lot of influence
though 90 % is on the side of BLM

so how ironic.

if he was a white anti semite this would headlines and blasting endlessly CNN MSNBC blowhorns
for a week
 


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WSJ: Durham vs. the Press
« Reply #3355 on: February 20, 2022, 12:55:18 AM »
In Durham Investigation vs. the Press, Who’s the Straight Shooter?
Instead of ankle-biting, big media might join the special prosecutor in airing the secrets of 2016.

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John Durham, famously tight-lipped, gave a rare speech at the University of St. Joseph in West Hartford, Conn., four years ago. The first words out of his mouth concerned the “awesome power” of prosecutors and the importance of proceeding in secret because sometimes the prosecutor’s suspicions about people are wrong.


When President Trump named Mr. Durham in 2018 to be U.S. attorney for Connecticut, so eager were the state’s two Democratic U.S. senators to take credit that they rushed out a statement noting Mr. Durham’s “immense respect as a no-nonsense, fierce and fair prosecutor.”

The Bush and Obama administrations trusted him to investigate potential CIA abuses. The Clinton administration trusted him to investigate FBI corruption in dealings with the Boston mob. Mr. Durham, after 45 years, became untrustworthy to Democrats and their press allies only when he began investigating a matter inconvenient to Democrats and their press allies—when Trump Attorney General William Barr tasked him with reviewing the FBI’s Russia-meddling investigations.

And yet, if he’s so untrustworthy, hard to explain is the extraordinary decision by the Washington Post, based solely on a Durham indictment, to retract several of its stories lending credence to the Steele dossier, saying it no longer could stand by its own reporting.

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This brings us to the irony of the press carping about Mr. Durham; it ankle-bites at side aspects of his proceedings, since nobody can really counter the colossal burden of his revelations, that the press and FBI let themselves be manipulated into promoting baseless smears against a presidential candidate and president.

The latest buzz concerns his case against Democratic lawyer Michael Sussmann, accused by Mr. Durham of lying to the FBI to conceal a Clinton campaign role in spurious evidence he was presenting of Trump-Russia collusion.

A new filing doesn’t bring new charges. It simply asks a judge to examine potential conflicts of interest involving Mr. Sussmann’s legal counsel and certain Clinton campaign associates. If the filing contains any “aha!” value, it reinforces the revelation that Clinton agents were behind a now-discredited story at Slate.com and the New Yorker magazine that Mr. Trump, a Russian bank and a Michigan healthcare company were in secret computer cahoots.

The filing also adds a tidbit: One of the clients whose web data a Sussmann associate cynically exploited was the White House itself. Cue an uproar.

As I suggested to emailers last weekend who were on fire about the news, maybe just wait and let Mr. Durham show us in the courtroom what it all means. All along, my guess has been that he’s less interested in racking up convictions than in exposing how the press and FBI participated in their own gaslighting for partisan ends.

It wasn’t some off-the-wall whimsy to suggest, in 2019, that candidate Joe Biden might do himself and the country a favor by endorsing the Durham investigation. Crazies on both sides could step back from the brink. It would benefit Trump voters especially to know that, while some of the paranoia they’ve been encouraged to adopt may be unfounded, their concerns aren’t unreasonable and are being treated respectfully by the legal system. Likewise, Democrats and Hillary Clinton supporters had every reason also to be upset about galumphing actions of the FBI in 2016, which likely cost Mrs. Clinton the presidency.

Instead of circling the wagons, major news outlets might try giving Mr. Durham some competition in getting to the bottom of these matters. The moment is propitious. Despite Sarah Palin’s loss this week in a libel action against the New York Times, her case only adds to a groundswell for overturning a 58-year-old Supreme Court precedent granting the press extraordinary immunity when it falsely defames a public figure. Others, including Justices Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch, have urged such a revisiting. Congress, in less than 12 months, may be in the hands of Republicans who take a dim view of the media.

This would be a good time for the press to show it’s not just another corrupt interest group, that it really does seek to report, without fear or favor, the truth about matters rightly important to the public. A large irony must be noted. The “self-censorship” and “chilling effect” the Supreme Court worried about in 1964 has become rampant, not from lawsuit fears but because the press frequently is unwilling to pursue news that would be unwelcome to its partisan allies.

All the more so because news outlets not only had a front-row seat, in real time, for the matters Mr. Durham is trying to reconstruct in retrospect. The press was also an actor. Its behavior in promoting one of the biggest partisan lies in American history deserves to be reported on too.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3356 on: February 20, 2022, 05:44:40 AM »
"Sarah Palin’s loss this week in a libel action against the New York Times, her case only adds to a groundswell for overturning a 58-year-old Supreme Court precedent granting the press extraordinary immunity when it falsely defames a public figure. Others, including Justices Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch, have urged such a revisiting."

interesting

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Re: WSJ: Durham vs. the Press
« Reply #3357 on: February 20, 2022, 05:58:32 AM »
Great analysis.

"news outlets not only had a front-row seat, in real time, for the matters Mr. Durham is trying to reconstruct in retrospect. The press was also an actor. Its behavior in promoting one of the biggest partisan lies in American history deserves to be reported on too"

   - Who in msm will do that (honestly)?

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Forbes fires guy who published Fauci's salary
« Reply #3358 on: February 20, 2022, 02:19:07 PM »
and to be even more obnoxious mentioned he will be in the Smithsonian
and to host an event by Hillary in 3/22

and give her another platform to campaign on!      :x

https://pjmedia.com/culture/marktapscott/2022/02/19/bad-things-happen-to-those-who-publish-truth-about-fauci-n1560514

forbes is on my shit list .

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NYT idiocy
« Reply #3359 on: February 21, 2022, 10:34:09 AM »
"authoritarian"

"the world may be entering a new era"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-ukraine-different-130456686.html

really?
who would have noticed

thank you for pointing this out

and this :

"Major political parties are weak (as in the case of the old center-left parties in Britain, France and elsewhere) or themselves behaving in anti-democratic ways (as with the Republican Party in the United States.).

These problems have given Putin and his top aides confidence to act aggressively"


NYT

of course. shifts the blame *wrongly* onto *its'* political enemies => it is Trump and the US Right that caused this....

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Re: NYT idiocy
« Reply #3360 on: February 21, 2022, 10:40:15 AM »
"These problems have given Putin and his top aides confidence to act aggressively"

   - Any 5 second clip of the leader of the free world or his side kick would give him "confidence to act aggressively".

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Media, Ministry of Truth, NYT POTH, Communist views reach the crossword
« Reply #3362 on: February 22, 2022, 12:06:41 PM »
New York Times appears drunk on its hatred of American capitalism.

The 49th clue in the newspaper’s Feb. 22 (2022) puzzle read,

“Vice encouraged by capitalism.”

Their answer: “Greed.”

I will keep my profanity-laced response to that to myself.

via 'newsbusters'
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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3363 on: February 23, 2022, 08:10:23 AM »
Yahoo link from ccp's Ukraine post, Trump praises Putin:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-praises-putins-genius-incursion-into-ukraine-234001858.html

"In an appearance on the right-wing talk radio program "the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show,"

That's funny.  Aren't they just a radio show?  Number one in the country?  Isn't that MAINTREAM by definition?  Not fringe or wing.

Do we say left-wing with:
 Reported by left-wing Yahoo?
 This Week with Lefty George Stephanopolous?
 Meet the Left-Wing Press with Chuck Todd?
 Left-Wing Stephen Colbert Show?  Jimmy Kimmel?
 Reported by left-wing New York Times?  Washington Post?
 Left-wing Nobel Peace Prize, Left wing Pulitzer Prize, Left wing Harvard university?

How come the identification of bias is unidirectional?  ARE THER NO JOURNALISTIC STANDARDS?


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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3364 on: February 23, 2022, 09:22:27 AM »
"Do we say left-wing with:
 Reported by left-wing Yahoo?
 This Week with Lefty George Stephanopolous?
 Meet the Left-Wing Press with Chuck Todd?
 Left-Wing Stephen Colbert Show?  Jimmy Kimmel?
 Reported by left-wing New York Times?  Washington Post?
 Left-wing Nobel Peace Prize, Left wing Pulitzer Prize, Left wing Harvard university"

WE do but
NEVER from the MSM
though;   
they present themselves as objective and try to emphasize all opposition is "right wing"
(aka white supremacists Nazis what have you)

I find this annoying and outrageous too

they marginalize us en bloc
the best they can




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"CRIPPLING"
« Reply #3365 on: February 25, 2022, 08:06:46 AM »

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Zucker's replacement just another leftish media swamp creature
« Reply #3366 on: February 26, 2022, 11:47:28 PM »
for any of us who were thinking CNN might stop being a total tool of the Dem Party (not the half tool they used to be ) - fogettaboutit!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Licht

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Re: Exactly!
« Reply #3368 on: March 01, 2022, 10:39:39 AM »
https://instapundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Screen-Shot-2022-02-28-at-10.30.09-PM-600x217.png



Exactly!

"The hypocrisy is insane", and this is just one example of it.  It goes on all day, everyday.

Why do you have to be a 'right winger' to see blatant hypocrisy and that there are two sets of rules?

We ask for (demand?) equal treatment under the law.  Why can't we demand equal treatment under journalism.
If it's not equal treatment, then it's not journalism. 

It's what Glenn Reynolds says:

"THINK OF THEM AS DEMOCRATIC PARTY OPERATIVES WITH BYLINES AND YOU WON’T GO FAR WRONG."
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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3370 on: March 02, 2022, 04:23:46 PM »

"The stories of the 13 guards on an island telling the Russian naval ship to fuck off… yeah, it was a lie (turns out they surrendered)"

I thought is was BS

we kept getting shown some video of an island
and some Russian language in background then a image of a destroyer

and nothing else
we are led to  believe there were these guys cursing at Russians who then blew them up
I was thinking so where is the God damn explosion?

tomorrow we read how 20 ,000 Ruskis died 50,000 gave themselves up
they are all starving
and crying

Obviously this military exaggeration
or BS
I don't know if from Ukrainians
but some certainly from our "intell"
pumping the NYT and WP with BS








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Leftish media plays dumb
« Reply #3377 on: March 06, 2022, 01:32:30 PM »
scratching their heads why Biden will not stop Russian oil imports

https://www.foxnews.com/media/abcs-jonathan-karl-baffled-biden-sanctioning-everything-but-russian-oil-extraordinary

we know the truth
election coming up

and he is SOOOOOO vulnerable to criticism for his oil policies

of course the leftist hyenas know this too



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Re: Leftish media plays dumb
« Reply #3378 on: March 06, 2022, 01:39:29 PM »
Putin is such a threat, we need to risk nuclear war, but not as much of a threat as getting yelled at by Greta Thunberg!


scratching their heads why Biden will not stop Russian oil imports

https://www.foxnews.com/media/abcs-jonathan-karl-baffled-biden-sanctioning-everything-but-russian-oil-extraordinary

we know the truth
election coming up

and he is SOOOOOO vulnerable to criticism for his oil policies

of course the leftist hyenas know this too





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VDH, where do you go for your news?
« Reply #3383 on: March 16, 2022, 06:58:25 PM »
"I go to Powerline first."

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/03/what-does-victor-read.php

https://www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2022/03/VDH-Sources.mov  (video download, 1 minute 30 seconds)

Also WSJ, zerohedge, ace of spades and others.
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The New Walter Duranty Times discovers Hunter’s laptop
« Reply #3384 on: March 17, 2022, 01:48:05 PM »
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/398258.php

Trustworthy professionals!

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the Joe cackle
« Reply #3386 on: March 17, 2022, 04:05:23 PM »

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Remember 60 Minutes protecting Biden?
« Reply #3387 on: March 18, 2022, 07:16:36 AM »
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1504530054725967877

I was told that they were unbiased professionals!

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There is NO DEEP STATE
« Reply #3389 on: March 19, 2022, 02:19:44 PM »
as per MSM
(who we all know is part of it)

here is just one of many examples :

The "NEW YORKER " 2017

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/20/there-is-no-deep-state

NOW HERE IS THE PROOF:

https://populistpress.com/51-intelligence-experts-caught-covering-for-biden-crimes/

"DEEP STATE"  "Elites"

terms they mock as though it is part of a "BIG LIE" which they echo endlessly...





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Not newsworthy for some reason...
« Reply #3390 on: March 20, 2022, 06:17:03 PM »

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NBC is an acceptable news source?
« Reply #3391 on: March 21, 2022, 03:44:49 PM »

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3392 on: March 21, 2022, 06:56:53 PM »
Sorry, but IMHO Alex Jones belongs outside our circle.   We have plenty of good arguments to make without having to resort to him and the attendant facilitation of effective attacks by the other side.

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that did not take long
« Reply #3393 on: March 22, 2022, 11:27:06 AM »
for communist media to criticize justifiable viewing "America must lead New World Order":


https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-new-world-order-conspiracy-qanon-1690335

nothing to see here
just democrats trying to take advantage of another "crises"

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3394 on: March 22, 2022, 11:35:56 AM »
Sorry, but IMHO Alex Jones belongs outside our circle.   We have plenty of good arguments to make without having to resort to him and the attendant facilitation of effective attacks by the other side.

Did Alex Jones take money to push the ClotShot?

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3395 on: March 22, 2022, 08:00:33 PM »
Too many horseshit things associated with him e.g. the killing of the 26 children in Conn. were a fraud blah blah blah.  PLEASE let's not drag him in here!

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3396 on: March 22, 2022, 08:20:23 PM »
Too many horseshit things associated with him e.g. the killing of the 26 children in Conn. were a fraud blah blah blah.  PLEASE let's not drag him in here!

Despite that and other things, does he not have a better track record that our "Professional Journalists"?

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3397 on: March 23, 2022, 01:57:08 AM »
Don't care. 

Asking you not to bring him here.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3398 on: March 23, 2022, 06:31:51 AM »
"Russia!Russia!Russia!
Ukraine!
Pay no attention to the end of America."

Foreign policy, domestic policy, must choose only one?  I see the two as intertwined.

Our election fraud, loss of freedoms and expansion of the central state helps Russia and China justify theirs.

My view is that the US turned left, away from freedom in 1991-1993, right when young, almost free Russia was impressionable.  Our indifference to freedom left the world missing a role model, and coincidentally Russia never became free.

I disagree with the idea that too much attention is placed on the fact Russia has invaded a neighbor, is taking territory, killing a thousand (so far), forcing millions to flee and threatening two more neighbors (so far), see GPF post, while running up against ... western indifference.

That isn't why our borders are unprotected or why dead and incapacitated people here still vote.

The common thread I see is public (and media) indifference.  Where is the outrage applies to both sides of it.

Funny that Russia didn't do this during the recent time we were growing our economy, building our wall and building up our defense.

American weakness at home and totalitarian expansion abroad look to me like two sides of the same coin.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3399 on: March 23, 2022, 06:48:12 AM »
"Funny that Russia didn't do this during the recent time we were growing our economy, building our wall and building up our defense.

American weakness at home and totalitarian expansion abroad look to me like two sides of the same coin."


good points

my own feelings is that we are WEAK
30 trillion in debt
forced to flog our selves with climate change
too dependent on essential foreign products
not enforcing the border
letting inflation run wild
a divided nation
patriotism declining
too focused on race gender


before we escalate problems over seas
we need to get our house in order

Ukraine is not Nato.

they are not making most of our chips like Taiwan.

yes the MSM 24/7 images of crying children and mothers etc is heartbreaking

I remember when Bush tried to help Somalia
I thought that was great - look how that turned out

I remember when Bush junior invaded Iraq to get rid of the monstrous Hussain family
I thought that was great - look how that turned out

for some such as Levin to say is more like fighting Hitler etc
   and not Vietnam Korea Afghanistan etc -

I say he is wrong
and frankly is reckless

we protect our real interests -
the long view -
shore up our massive domestic problems
keep a strong military
and forge alliances with our friends