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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues; foreign manipulation of US media/social media
« Reply #4400 on: February 20, 2025, 09:22:12 AM »
Gutfield and company were quite gleeful last night about the Variety piece.

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Reid gone from anchor at MSLSD
« Reply #4401 on: February 23, 2025, 08:29:08 AM »
the good news.

ironically her show was called ReidOUT :

https://www.msnbc.com/reidout

Now the bad news is Rebecca Kutler will go down the Conga line and replace with other crazy Democrats

https://hollywoodlife.com/feature/why-was-joy-reid-show-canceled-5371754/


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Joy Reid, a Rare Voice of Moderation on MSNBC, Gets the Axe
« Reply #4402 on: February 24, 2025, 08:27:31 PM »
https://freebeacon.com/media/joy-reid-a-rare-voice-of-moderation-on-msnbc-gets-the-axe/

The 59,000 prime age viewers of a national show will have nowhere else to go - except to watch the next set of radicals that will fill that space.
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MSDNC in Full Up Bloodbath Mode?
« Reply #4403 on: February 25, 2025, 12:40:04 PM »
Looks like the move Doug mentions above is turning into an all out trend: several more "Progressive" mud slingers at MSDNC are getting the boot:

https://pjmedia.com/rick-moran/2025/02/25/bloodbath-at-msnbc-as-three-more-hosts-bite-the-dust-n4937303

I would say "don't let the door hit the ass you wear as a hat on the way out," but rattling these cages could only improve the status quo as you'd find more evidence of reasoning skills among the comatose.....

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues; foreign manipulation of US media/social media
« Reply #4404 on: February 25, 2025, 01:22:15 PM »
Other than Joyless Reid I never heard of these people.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues; foreign manipulation of US media/social media
« Reply #4405 on: February 26, 2025, 07:41:32 AM »
Other than Joyless Reid I never heard of these people.

Hell, I've never heard of Reid....

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Wash Post, Bezos, liberty, free markets
« Reply #4406 on: February 27, 2025, 03:48:41 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/jeff-bezos-announces-resignation-of-washington-post-opinion-editor-over-new-editorial-mandate-in-stunning-statement/ar-AA1zQ9W5

"We are going to be writing every day in support and defense of two pillars: personal liberties and free markets. We’ll cover other topics too of course, but viewpoints opposing those pillars will be left to be published by others."


https://issuesinsights.com/2025/02/27/did-jeff-bezos-just-kill-karl-marx-on-k-street/
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So sad, factcheck.org once again reads like an opposition opinion piece
« Reply #4407 on: March 05, 2025, 05:29:55 AM »
https://www.factcheck.org/2025/03/factchecking-trumps-address-to-congress-2/

On each point, they don't know how much either, they just know he's wrong.

How many fraudulent Social Security checks get sent out? Trump says Millions. Fact check.org says less than a million. Their source, the people that are sending out all the fraudulent checks. Good grief. Shouldn't their number be zero? They are aware of thousands of fraudulent checks?

21 million came across the border? They say false. What is their number? "That’s double the total number of people caught..." (and the estimated number of gotaways is 2 million) Sorry, isn't that an opinion , not a fact? What is the right total number? The right answer is 0. The number of hijackers it took to commit 911 was 19. Numbers in the tens of millions versus" 21 million" is not a "fact check", it's a nitpick, unless you are saying he got it about right. Crossings are down 95%? Why didn't they fact check that?

Did they fact check slotkin for saying they want nicer change? No they don't. Was 88,000 new armed IRS agents nicer change? Were Jack booted thugs on pre Dawn rage of political opponents nicer change?

Joe Biden left behind an economic catastrophe, that's a false statement? Check the exit polls. Rich, white, liberal, fake journalist should get out of their bubble and see what expenses my tenant's face with what income they make working multiple jobs. Did they not notice that interest expense on the debt more than doubled and surpassed the defense budget which is considered the sign of a failing civilization?

Orwell's 1984 was their world. We are living in the present.
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Minneapolis newspaper website didn't even mention the speech this morning, except an article about Rep. Al Green being thrown out.  Strange.

To them, it's not "The President" addressing the nation, it's just Trump.

I would link but that just encourages them to stay in business.
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Left Media Folding, ABC Disney shutdown "valuable resource" 538
« Reply #4411 on: March 07, 2025, 09:10:56 AM »
No they didn't sell this money losing operation, they shut it down.

The left is discovering fiscal constraints.

Nate silver made a name for this with his extreme accuracy in 2008. They missed the last election cycle nationwide by seven points! Wrong in every state and every demographic. Just like their network.

https://theothermccain.com/2025/03/06/why-has-the-valuable-resource-known-as-538-been-summarily-discarded/
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hopelessly Democrat hack Rick Newman
« Reply #4412 on: March 07, 2025, 12:47:19 PM »
tells us Trump wants to fudge data and it won'r work

Of course he speaks as though Dems have never done this:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/commentary-fudging-the-data-wont-help-the-trump-economy-172947432.html

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Gavin Newsome's second guest on his Podcast - surprise
« Reply #4413 on: March 11, 2025, 06:09:35 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/10/michael-savage-discusses-borders-trump-democratic-party-gavin-newsom-podcast/

Savage has new Newsmax Cable show Sunday at 8 PM EST

unfortunately at same time Great One is on who I would rather watch.

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Infowars reporter murdered
« Reply #4414 on: March 12, 2025, 06:19:54 AM »
I regard Infowars as a scurrilous site, but this is worth noting:

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/infowars-reporter-jamie-white-found-murdered-near-austin-residential-area/

Edited to add:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/alex-jones-general-flynn-called-try-warn-me/

This on top the hack of Musk by Uke IP addresses , , ,
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WH Correspondents dinner's latest woke comedianne
« Reply #4415 on: March 16, 2025, 10:52:54 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/media/white-house-correspondents-dinner-host-says-no-one-wants-trump-show-up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Ruffin

Well I would think DJT might attend if the comedian headliner was Jimmy Failla who spent ample time insulting , deservably, the MSM instead of him sitting there insulting the President and those who support him.

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A Triple Dose of Fake News
« Reply #4416 on: March 19, 2025, 04:15:53 PM »
Several elements of this entry are worth perusing, though this is the only one that fits this thread:

Triple Fake News Wednesday!

1. DNI Director Tulsi Gabbard is on an official trip to India, where she said that President Trump is “very good friends” with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi. The A.P. reported that she said Trump is very good friends with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Gabbard’s spokeswoman called it “total trash” and said, “This is why no one trusts the maliciously incompetent and purposefully bias(ed) media. If this isn’t a clear example of pushing a solely political narrative, then nothing is.” The A.P. retracted the story.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2025/03/18/the-ap-just-proved-again-why-theyre-banned-from-the-white-house-press-pool-n2653986

2. Politico ran a story claiming that a retired Army officer was withdrawn from contention for an intelligence position under DNI head Tulsi Gabbard because of his criticism of Israel. Gabbard’s spokeswoman said she told Politico this story was fake, but they ran it anyway and said they would “update it with my comment. Doesn’t work that way when the entire story is false.”

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/03/18/dni-spox-calls-out-politico-n2653727

You know, we’re beginning to suspect Politico isn’t worth the millions of dollars the government pays to subscribe to it.

3. The Daily Beast reports that a new book will claim that President Trump “offered a female congresswoman his bed, as long as she kept it a secret from his wife.” The congresswoman was reportedly Anna Paulina Luna, who slammed the story as “trash.”

She said she was on Trump’s plane, “very pregnant” and experiencing medical symptoms. Trump respectfully offered her the use of the private bedroom in front of her husband, as well as access to the medical team on board. She called it “disgusting” that the author never asked her for comment, adding, “If people in POTUS’ orbit are talking to this author, they need to be cut off immediately. This is gross.”

https://x.com/realannapaulina/status/1901716486198043055

We considered making up a really nasty story about this author, but then we realized we don’t even know who it is. Not that that would have deterred this author from printing it.

https://govmikehuckabee.substack.com/p/triple-fake-news-wednesday?r=2k0c5&triedRedirect=true

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"Photogenic dunce"(s) on the big shows, when are the corrections episodes??
« Reply #4417 on: March 20, 2025, 05:39:11 PM »
Cruel commentary, but not wrong.

https://spectator.org/how-much-longer-cbs-going-carry-margaret-brennan/

Did she really say free speech caused the holocaust - and she still occupies the chair and the microphone.

Do they ever do a corrections show? Oops the crime rate really did go up, Russian collusion was a hoax, it wasn't a 'tax cut for the rich', covid came from the lab, that wasn't the cleanest election ever, excess spending does cause inflation, oops. Oops, that 6 month fetus really is a human. 50 million butchered. Oops
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Media, Washington Post suddenly worried about conflict of interest
« Reply #4418 on: March 24, 2025, 06:31:09 AM »
https://archive.is/2025.03.23-122142/https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/23/elon-musk-doge-china-conflicts-of-interest/
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89 long internet pages of media bias here with 1.3 million reads, yet they just keep doing it!

Strange they missed 12 of the last 16 years of conflict of interest, asleep at the wheel. Isn't the entire usaid budget all conflict of interest? Cf. Senator and Mrs Whitehouse Democrat-Rhode Island. Hillary's approval of the uranium one deal, conflict of interest anyone? Washington Post Pulitzer Prize for the Russia Russia Collusion Hoax, conflict of interest, ya think? Destroy a President, truth be damned. Sorry I missed the award-winning correction series when it was all proven false.

President Obama's IRS Commissioner visited the White House 250 times in the year they were caught targeting conservative groups. "No joke". Where is the transcript of those meetings? Didn't that happen in Washington right under the Post's nose? But it's end of the world when Musk speaks with a cabinet secretary in private, as is his job. Sorry but I don't think Musk and Hegseth were writing business contracts in private. Spending without transparency was the Washington policy before Musk arrived on the scene. He's the one fighting it.

Democrat activists with bylines projecting.
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Media, Understanding NPR
« Reply #4419 on: March 27, 2025, 08:23:30 AM »
Jarvis on X.

"I listen to a lot of NPR and my favorite tic of theirs is what I like to call Two Good Facts/Two Bad Facts. Once you hear it you can’t unhear it.

If it’s a Dem policy or politician, they get Two Good Facts. “Kamala Harris, who is (1) gaining in the polls, has a new proposal to (2) do a good thing.” One is too few and three is too many, so they have to get exactly two.

 GOP stuff gets Two Bad Facts. “Legislation x, which has (1) been criticized by the National association of sympathetic figures, is (2) losing support among key members of the committee to do things.”

https://x.com/jarvis_best/status/1904978509057110222?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1904978509057110222%7Ctwgr%5E35ff9ac690d54e587361ef58fffa417da5e042f3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F710091%2F

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Media Propaganda, the musical
« Reply #4420 on: March 27, 2025, 08:43:10 AM »

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https://youtu.be/3OHxLxNer3I?si=y8KjVaTZVASmFn-F

I didn't realize this is the head of NPR when I first saw this.

Cut the cord!

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Media Disinformation Led to Trump’s Election
« Reply #4422 on: April 02, 2025, 04:54:44 AM »
I have more than a few quibbles with this piece, but w/ and anti-Trumper confronting a major media sin, it’s a step in the right direction:

"The 2024 Presidential Campaign Saw a Massive Disinformation and Misinformation Campaign, …
The Volokh Conspiracy / by Eugene Volokh / Mar 31, 2025 at 10:16 AM
[which likely helped bring the current administration into power."]

I had the pleasure of attending the very interesting conference on Free Speech in Crisis & the Limits of the First Amendment at Yale Law School on Friday and Saturday; I was invited to participate on the Media Environment panel, for which the description was:

It is widely believed that a profoundly broken media system is responsible for bringing the current administration into power, and for critics, the political crisis it has unleashed. Is this correct? And if so, what is to be done about it? How can public opinion be harnessed to serve constitutional purposes in the new media landscape? How can and should the media system be reformed? And what can free speech law do about any of this?

We were all asked to write up to about 2000 words on our topics, and here was my submission.

[* * *]

The 2024 presidential campaign saw a massive disinformation and misinformation campaign, which likely helped bring the current administration into power. Leading media organizations failed to stop it in time. Indeed, some of them were complicit, through inadequate investigation and perhaps even willful blindness, in the misinformation. We thus face an urgent question, raised by the workshop organizers: "How can and should the media system be reformed?"

I'm speaking, of course, of the campaign to conceal President Biden's mental decline—a campaign that was only conclusively exposed by the June 27, 2024 debate. At that point, little time was left for deciding whether the President should be persuaded to step aside; for the actual persuasion; for the selection of a replacement; and for the replacement's attempt to persuade the people to elect her.

Had the Administration leveled with the public earlier, or had the media exposed the concealment earlier, there would likely have been time for a full primary campaign, in which Democratic voters could have made their choice about whom to run against Donald Trump.[1] Perhaps that candidate would have been more effective than Kamala Harris. Or perhaps the candidate would have still been Harris, but a Harris who was seen as having more legitimacy with the public. "Democracy Dies in Darkness," the Washington Post tells us. It appears that the Democratic Party's prospects died in this particular darkness.

The single most consequential fact of the 2024 Presidential campaign had thus been largely hidden for a long time, including from (and, perhaps unwittingly, by) the media organizations whose job it is to inform us. Indeed, this a fact not just of immense political significance, but also central to national security: If President Biden was indeed cognitively impaired, that bore on his ability to make decisions as President, not just his ability to be re-elected.

When, for instance, Trump and Vance spread unfounded rumors of Haitian immigrants eating cats and dogs, the media rightly blew the whistle. But when some media outlets tried to point out the evidence of Biden's likely incapacity, others didn't pick up on the investigation—and, indeed, sometimes pooh-poohed the investigation.

As late as mid-June 2024, the White House and many of its supporters characterized videos of Biden apparently freezing up and seeming confused as "cheap fake" disinformation created by his enemies.[2] Only Biden's televised debate performance on June 27, 2024 made it impossible to deny there was something badly wrong. It seems likely that many of the supposed "cheap fakes" actually accurately captured Biden's cognitive slippage, especially since the slippage apparently went back a good deal before the debate.[3] And even if some particular videos had indeed been disinformation from his enemies, the fact remains that the media failed to adequately identify the disinformation from his friends. Indeed, isn't it shocking that so many White House reporters appear to have learned thanks only to the nationally televised debate and not to their investigative journalism?

Of course, reaching the truth on this question wasn't easy. Biden insiders apparently tried hard to conceal the facts (that's the disinformation part). And indeed it's not surprising that people who are both personally loyal to a President and rely on the President's success for their ongoing careers would want to conceal such facts. In our fallen world, we can't expect much candor from political insiders. And I expect most journalists sincerely believed the reassurances they were getting from the insiders.

But getting sincerely duped isn't a great professional mark for a journalist. Their job was to dig and find out—before things became evident, not after. Indeed, to the extent that the media's credibility has declined over recent years, such failures of investigation seem likely to only exacerbate this decline.

Undoubtedly, the White House wanted to keep this fact [of Biden's decline] under wraps until Biden was safely over the finish line in November. But media organizations that participated, even unwittingly, in this farce have not only made a subsequent Democratic administration far less likely—they have profoundly undermined their own integrity.[4]

* * *

How could this happen? I hope we will learn more about this in the years to come. A CNN headline the day I write this, discusses a forthcoming book by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson called "Original Sin: President Biden's Decline, Its Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again."

But at this point, at least a first cut—informed by our shared knowledge of human nature—is that many in the media likely didn't dig hard because they didn't really wanted to uncover things. It isn't controversial, I think, that most in the mainstream media much preferred President Biden over his challenger, Donald Trump.[5] Indeed, I agree they had good reason to dislike Trump. Certainly Trump himself had done much to stoke that hostility.

"Biden is cognitively impaired" was a standard talking point on the Right. So long as Biden was the nominee, that fact, if demonstrated, would help Trump. (As I've argued, if the fact helped Democrats replace Biden with a better candidate, it might have hurt Trump, but that would have been a less direct chain of causation.) It's human nature to accept stories that fit one's political preferences than to challenge them. A thought experiment: If the sitting President in 2024 had been a Republican—whether Trump or, say, an older Ron DeSantis—would the media have acted the same way they did? Or would they have worked harder, dug deeper, and uncovered the truth earlier?

Yet of course institutions should be designed to counteract the flaws generated by human nature while working within the constraints created by human nature. (That knowledge was old when Madison was young.) This is true of media institutions as well as governmental ones. There need to be mechanisms to keep reporters' and editors' inevitable ideological predilections from turning into ideological blinders and ideological blunders.

Of course, it's much easier to identify the problem than a suitable solution. One can imagine, for instance, newspapers deliberately seeking out reporters and editors with many different ideological beliefs, hoping that colleagues will fill each others' blind spots (or, in collegial conversations, help each other identify their blind spots). But this may be hard to implement; and, as with preferences based on race and sex, preferences based on politics may be challenged as leading to hiring based on ideology rather than merit. (They may also be defended, as with preferences based on race and sex, as a tool for fighting subconscious bias that keeps meritorious candidates from being fairly considered.) Indeed, hiring that considers applicants' ideological beliefs may violate some states' laws that limit employment discrimination based on political ideology or party affiliation,[6] just as hiring that considers applicants' religious beliefs may violate bans on employment discrimination based on religion.

Newspapers might also return to prohibiting reporters and editors from publicly opining on controversial issues. Of course, realistic readers will recognize that reporters may still be biased. But taking a public stand on an issue may increase such bias: If one has publicly endorsed position X, it might become harder to write fairly about evidence that instead tends to support the rival position Y. Few of us like writing something that suggests that we were mistaken in the past, or that our critics can interpret as making such a suggestion.

Again, though, in some jurisdictions such public neutrality rules for newspaper employees may violate state employment statutes. One state court held (by a 5–4 vote) that those statutes themselves violate the First Amendment when applied to newspaper reporters or editors.[7] But in AP v. NLRB (1937), the U.S. Supreme Court held (also 5–4) that federal labor law, which bans discrimination based on union membership, didn't violate the Associated Press's rights to select reporters or editors.

Likewise, one can imagine newspapers and magazines deliberately courting a broad ideological mix of readers—not just for the extra revenue, but also to commit themselves to having a base that they will need to be seen as treating fairly. A publication that has many readers on the left, right, and center might feel more pressure to be fair and careful to all sides. Of course, it may be hard these days to acquire such a broad reader base. And there's always the danger that concern about reader reactions may press a newspaper to avoid controversial topics altogether, rather than to try handling them fairly.

Finally, newspapers can just try to recommit themselves to objectivity, fuzzy as the term may sometimes be. (Many commentators have expressly taken the opposite view.[8]) In their news coverage, they may recommit to discussing the best arguments on both sides of contested issues. In choosing what to cover, they may try hard to see what both sides of the aisle view as especially important. On their editorial pages, they may avoid a party line, either instituted top down[9] or by staff revolts.[10] Instead, they may adopt the policy that whatever ideas are shared by at least substantial minorities of the public should be seriously covered, even when editors think that one side is obviously wrong.

Again, though, that's easier said than done (and it's not even that easily said). It will inevitably require hard choices that will leave many observers skeptical about the media organization's fairness —e.g., which sides of a multi-sided issue should be covered, which topics are important enough to cover, which positions are such outliers that they can be set aside, how to allocate scarce space and attention. And it may not do much to solve the problem we began with, which is the ability of media organizations to be massively duped by the side they sympathize with.

Thus, these solutions are likely to be far from perfect. The cures may even be worse than disease.

But there is indeed a disease, "a profoundly broken media system" (to quote the workshop organizers). This system is one that the public has good reason to distrust. Its flaws undermine the media's ability to check government malfeasance. It may have been so captured by the desire to #Resist one movement that it failed to resist the disinformation spread by another. And it may thus have ended up helping the very candidate and movement that it had (understandably) viewed as dangerous.

[1] See, e.g., Josh Barro, This Is All Biden's Fault, N.Y. Times, Nov. 11, 2024; Four Writers on What Democrats Should Do, N.Y. Times, June 30, 2024.

[2] See, e.g., Hanna Panreck, Karine Jean-Pierre Doubles Down on 'Cheap Fake' Biden Videos: 'So Much Misinformation', Fox News, June 19, 2024.

[3] See, e.g., Annie Linskey & Siobhan Hughes, Behind Closed Doors, Biden Shows Signs of Slipping, Wall St. J., June 4, 2024; Michael Williams, George Clooney Says Democrats Need a New Nominee Just Weeks After He Headlined a Major Fundraiser for Biden, CNN, July 10, 2024.

[4] Robby Soave, Why Didn't the Media Notice Joe Biden's 'Jet Lag' Sooner?, Reason, July 3, 2024.

[5] Cf. The American Journalist, Key Findings from the 2022 American Journalist Study (reporting that 51.7% of journalists identified as Independent, 36.4% Democrat, 8.5% Other, and 3.4% Republican). I appreciate that this is an online survey, and one that doesn't specifically ask about views on Trump; but it reinforces what is generally seen as conventional wisdom, and I've seen no data pointing in the opposite direction.

[6] See Eugene Volokh, Should the Law Limit Private-Employer-Imposed Speech Restrictions?, 2 J. Free Speech L. 269 (2022); Eugene Volokh, Private Employees' Speech and Political Activity: Statutory Protection Against Employer Retaliation, 16 Tex. Rev. of L. & Pol. 295 (2012).

[7] See Nelson v. McClatchy Newspapers, 131 Wash. 2d 523 (1997).

[8] See, e.g., Leonard Downie Jr., Newsrooms That Move Beyond 'Objectivity' Can Build Trust, Wash. Post, Jan. 30, 2023.

[9] See, e.g., Washington Post Owner Jeff Bezos Says Opinion Pages Will Defend Free Market And 'Personal Liberties', PBS News, Feb. 26, 2015.

[10] See, e.g., Marc Tracy, James Bennet Resigns as New York Times Opinion Editor, N.Y. Times, June 7, 2020.

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Re: Media Disinformation Led to Trump’s Election
« Reply #4423 on: April 02, 2025, 06:21:42 AM »
"... newspapers can just try to recommit themselves to objectivity..."

  - Somehow I don't think that's what they wanted to hear.

It's so rare, I know of a young reporter (don't want to out him) who does exactly what is suggested, not by law or rule, just by professionalism. He was hired as lead political reporter in the leading statewide news publication in a most conservative state. He is liberal or at least not conservative as I understand it, but leaves that out of every story he writes. He reports what the advocates of a bill say about it, then he reports what the other side is saying about it in every article. Isn't that what both sides and the middle want to know? Never have I seen a hint of what his own view on any topic might be, and some of the stories covered were among the most divisive in the nation.

Why aren't they all like that?

Sadly I've never looked at the leading news publication in my state and not noticed the bias.

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ever how much the media writers get paid?
« Reply #4424 on: April 02, 2025, 06:55:41 PM »
if no then you can go on to the next thread
if yes I found this in quick online search:


https://www.salary.com/research/company/townhall-media-salem-media-salary

https://www.salary.com/research/company/breitbart-news/writer-and-researcher-salary?cjid=12145442

I had read history writers or writers for journals as Scientific American etc do not get very much.


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New media, Megyn Kelly interview, NYT
« Reply #4425 on: April 02, 2025, 09:23:06 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYZ2Eafg760

Very impressive the way she handled this.
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Re: ever how much the media writers get paid?
« Reply #4426 on: April 03, 2025, 05:05:16 AM »
"I had read ... writers for journals as Scientific American etc do not get very much"

  - Maybe that's why they are bought off so easily.


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« Reply #4428 on: Today at 04:49:35 AM »
An even handed—well at least where media hyperventilation is concerned—treatment of MSM-stoked tariff fears:

The Media's Piss Stain Starts To Dry

I can't help but laugh watching some analysts take their first deep breath in four days.

QUOTH THE RAVEN
APR 08, 2025
Over the last few days, I’ve been part of an extraordinarily small contingency of people not freaking out and losing their minds over President Trump’s new tariff plan or the ensuing stock market pullback.

A couple of days ago, I argued that the media shrieking hysterically about how the world was ending as a result of this trade policy was nothing more than a visceral reaction to what was happening in the stock market. It had to be. With just hours having passed since the implementation of Trump’s tariff policy, there was no real way to judge its success based on the merits.

Said another way, these things take time.

In an article late last week, I criticized Wharton PhD Jeremy Siegel—whose actual title is probably some bullshit with the word “emeritus” next to it—for coming out and declaring Trump’s tariff policy to be the worst policy decision in 95 years.

My argument wasn’t that he was wrong—only that it was too soon to make such a declaration.

Siegel was on CNBC again Monday this week. He started his interview by alluding to the idea that the Federal Reserve has room to cut interest rates—similar to the way he lobbied for an emergency rate cut back in August of last year. As the interview progressed, the stock market started to spike upwards on what we now know was a discredited headline about a 90-day pause in tariffs—and on live television, within the course of the five-minute interview window, Siegel had changed his tone, backing off his rhetoric and calling the now-debunked headline “terrific.”

'Fast Money' traders talk their tariff concerns after the market plummet
It was proof positive that everybody—even supposedly well-adjusted, intellectual, seasoned economists—reacts first to the stock market and asks questions later.

I argued the same when the Wall Street Journal editorial board came out just three days after the implementation of Trump’s tariff policy and declared Xi Jinping as the “emerging winner” of this policy decision. Whether the policy works or not is one thing. But declaring winners after just three days just doesn’t make sense to me.

Today, we are witnessing the opposite: the market opened the day green, and the VIX is lower because—even though we have uncertainty about the future of these trade deals—at least the market knows that the giant shock of announcing the tariff to begin with has now passed. Everybody has been able to regain some semblance of footing, everybody knows where we stand now with other countries, and market direction going forward will be more of a prolonged response to how negotiations with other countries go.

With China being the obvious main holdout, it appears as though negotiations with crucial countries—like Japan, for instance—are already moving forward.

And so now that people in the financial media and “analysts”—who appear to get their pulse on sentiment from reading nothing but social media—are officially done pissing themselves, and the market has at least temporarily found some sort of point to bounce off of (even if it continues to eventually move lower again) their respective piss stains can start to dry, and we can move past the large shock of discomfort into the still uncomfortable, but less shocking, choppy waters of trade negotiation.

President Trump was right during his interview a day or two ago when he told reporters that sometimes you have to “take the medicine.” It is this outlook on big change being digested by markets that will help them find a bottom faster and get everybody on the same page of where we stand now—without worrying whether or not our end of the negotiating table is going to capitulate or make terrible concessions, which could actually wind up being counterproductive.

And whether or not you believe Trump’s policy is working, you have to give him credit for having the spine to stand by it. I know we have very short memories, but the fever pitch of people—media, citizens, friends, business leaders, analysts, and advisors even—who must have been begging on Thursday and Friday of last week to reverse course had no effect on an unwavering President Trump.

If you’re going to “throw a grenade in the room and then walk away” as a way of setting policy, you have to be 100% behind your decision—and for better or for worse, there’s no doubt Trump has dug in. As I said last summer, I don’t know why Trump is fearless, or what drives it, but I think it’s an asset.

People on financial media this morning are bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, congratulating each other for having the fortitude to endure such tumultuous volatility. Markets are green! Flowers are blooming! The worst is over!

And these are, of course, also insane proclamations. There’s still going to be a significant amount of volatility ahead, and to suggest that the market has bottomed here is, in my opinion, foolish. When the market is going up over long periods of time, it goes both down and up over shorter periods of time. When the market goes down over long periods of time, it makes lower lows and lower highs, going both up and down over shorter periods of time.

Doing something like proclaiming the Fed should raise or lower rates based on what the stock market is doing in one session is an extraordinarily irresponsible and dangerous way to set policy. Essentially, the entire global economy—representing $100 trillion in assets or more—hangs in the balance of what the Federal Reserve decides to do with interest rates. To watch an “economist” on live television change their tune and cavalierly throw out interest rate cuts and hikes in different directions over the course of a five-minute interview is insane.

But I guess that is only to be expected from financial media who can’t help but make the story of the day whatever the market is doing that particular day. Real market veterans know: one day, one week, or one month of pattern does not make. And I’ll give Jerome Powell credit: watching his interview late last week, I thought he spoke about the market’s reaction and the Feds ensuing plans with a steady hand.


Going forward, if there’s one thing to be adamant about, in my opinion, it’s continuing to ignore reactionary responses to every individual headline that pops up about negotiations. To me, it harkens back to how people were watching and trading the number of COVID deaths as they occurred, minute by minute, in real time.

Looking back now, it’s easier to paint with much broader strokes: you should’ve bought stocks on the crash in March 2020 and sold them recently when the Shiller price-to-earnings ratio nearly hit 40x. It wasn’t so easy to discern that on a minute-by-minute basis in 2020, however.

As the days, weeks and months pass by, order and trends will emerge from this tariff fiasco. This is why I don’t bother arguing about the formula the Trump administration used to implement the tariffs, nor do I argue about specifics. The point of the policy was to recalibrate our standing in the world of trade and that’s what it’s doing. We’ve made the message crystal clear, and we have postured accordingly. Already, nations are coming to the table to try and work through the problem. Trump himself said it right yesterday, proclaiming something to the effect of: “If this is done right, it will only have to be done once.”

As I’ve been saying, regardless of how trade negotiations go, I still believe the stock market to be overvalued based on historical averages. But this doesn’t mean that there aren’t bargains out there in individual names and sectors. When undergoing such a massive macroeconomic shift, capital is going to move, valuations are going to change, and the market is going to look different on the other side of this policy negotiation than it did before.

Taking a longer view, I think cooler heads are going to prevail, and by the end of summer, things will have calmed down significantly. So as for me, I’m going to keep my cool head. The hysterical media was acting last week like it was a guarantee this trade war was going to last 100 years. It’s been four or five days, and we’ve already got people at the negotiating table.

I’ll look for value if the market moves lower or higher from here. As I said before the tariff war even began, I believe the market could still fall 30 or 40% from here easily—towards the historical P/E average near around 16x earnings. And once the deals start getting consummated, then I will start to judge the effectiveness of the negotiating tactic that the President is employing.

I judge effectiveness by how and when these new policies will be implemented and whether or not they are a net positive for the country after the fact. So for me, the answers are still yet to come. But for the lot of individuals who use the stock market as their mood ring for the day, at least they have a day today to let that piss stain from last week dry up a little bit.

https://quoththeraven.substack.com/p/the-medias-piss-stain-starts-to-dry?r=2k0c5&triedRedirect=true

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Important points made here.

Isn't it the anti capitalists who always complain corporations only care about the next quarterly report of sales and earnings.  Now we have a President and policy saying we will feel some short term pain of disruption in pursuit of a long term solution to a long term problem, and who is first and messiest to stain their panties?  The far Left who don't even like markets.

What do they think the "markets" are?  They are the indices of shared ownership in these large companies pursuing quarterly sales, growth and  profits.

Doesn't everyone know you shouldn't own equities if you don't have a 5, 10, 20 year outlook?

Author points out these stocks are still overvalued by traditional standards.  If so, is it good that they keep running higher above what fundamentals support, poised to fall further and harder?

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Important points made here.

Isn't it the anti capitalists who always complain corporations only care about the next quarterly report of sales and earnings.  Now we have a President and policy saying we will feel some short term pain of disruption in pursuit of a long term solution to a long term problem, and who is first and messiest to stain their panties?  The far Left who don't even like markets.

Think it was this same source in an earlier piece who stated that many of Trump's critics knew the market was inflated and due for a major "adjustment," and indeed viewed it as something of a trap for Trump as they created the bubble, but knew Trump would be blamed when it inevitably burst. They are annoyed at him, in other words, for busting the bubble on his terms, rather than theirs and thus avoiding the narrative frame they had likely prepared for him.

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Right.  Including on this board. Everyone knew a collapse was coming if there wasn't a change course, and something coming if we did change course. Easy money, zero interest rates or negative interest rates for much of the last 25 years and spending 40% more than we take in. Biden tripled our interest cost. Who survives on that budget and for how long? Using the magic of printing more money??

Soft landing? How would we know, it hasn't landed yet.

In economics, I call it runners left on base.  'They' will blame Trump of course but pretty hard to argue against facts. The mess was made before he got there.

He inherited this stacked trading system. And they, the experts, think he should have kicked it down the road further? To what end?

With the cutting of waste, fraud and abuse they say yes, but he's doing it all wrong. Easy to say coming from people who didn't do it at all, only made it worse. He should have reformed the trading system differently, more gently. Really? How? What was their plan and why didn't they do it? Same with the Ukraine war. All wrong. What was the right way? Again, why didn't they do it? The point is they didn't do it. They were going to let it all go until we hit total collapse.

What part of 80% 'wrong direction' polling don't they get?

They blamed the covid economy of blue state closures on Trump, but the voters didn't fully buy it.

This was a ticking time bomb. As Rep Jim Clyburn might say, we all knew.
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