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yup import 25 to 30 million people illegally
« Reply #2450 on: May 09, 2025, 08:27:28 AM »
and then dare anyone to do anything about it:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-furious-residents-surround-ice-agents-trying-to-arrest-mom-clinging-to-baby/

lots of libs replaying this over and over again.....   :x

all 25 to 30 million need due process........


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Miller trial ballons suspension of habeas corpus
« Reply #2451 on: May 10, 2025, 05:31:07 AM »
Obviously, the Guardian is quite biased:

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/may/09/end-habeas-corpus-detention-trump-stephen-miller

The idea has considerable logic, but the act of doing so would play into the worst fears of TDS and ignite a true firestorm.

If we don't think we can handle that firestorm , , ,
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Re: Immigration; weaponized immigration; deportation
« Reply #2452 on: May 10, 2025, 05:50:50 AM »
Where was the due process outrage when they removed all illegals from Martha Vineyard within 24 hours of arriving?

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/05/the-week-in-pictures-escape-from-alcatraz-edition.php

Democrats offer illegals $1001 to stay in America...
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Re: Immigration; weaponized immigration; deportation
« Reply #2453 on: May 10, 2025, 07:31:15 AM »
Some fun memes in there.



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Trump to SCOTUS: Marbury v. Madison Suggest You Smell This
« Reply #2456 on: May 13, 2025, 06:30:26 PM »
Interesting thread reading wherein Trump admin sticks the SCOTUS collective noses in the steaming pile of crap they made when various deportation cases made it their way:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1922305077538169079.html

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Re: Immigration; weaponized immigration; deportation
« Reply #2457 on: May 13, 2025, 07:35:34 PM »
This is fg hysterical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How did you find it?

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Re: Immigration; weaponized immigration; deportation
« Reply #2458 on: May 13, 2025, 08:18:32 PM »
This is fg hysterical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How did you find it?
One of my RSS feeds….

ETA, this explains how to set up your own thread reader: https://threadreaderapp.com/help#free-features
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This would seem a prime case for DACA concepts
« Reply #2459 on: May 14, 2025, 06:37:20 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/officials-drop-traffic-charges-that-led-ice-to-arrest-19-year-old-in-georgia/ar-AA1EEDBR

Which might play a part in what Michael Yon describes here:

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14 May 2025TexasToday I will also go on with Steve Bannon on War Room.  Yesterday I flew over Colony Ridge, Texas.  An invasion city built with help from Governor Abbott.  Early yesterday morning I flew over Colony Ridge with Dave Cannon in his helicopter.  Fog became thick because Colony Ridge is built on precious low wetlands.  So we came back with Dave’s airplane and got higher after fog burned off.  More on the flight today when I go on with Steve Bannon.  Bottom Line —  a critical mass of Texas Law Enforcement is refusing to help with mass deportations.  Texas DPS specifically.  Department of Public Safety leadership is outright refusing to help deport.  As are many local law enforcement agencies.  A critical mass of Texas leadership is captured and helping destroy Texas and the rest of America.  Many officers are angry.  Trump promised mass deportations yet even Texas refuses to do it.   Tom Homan is very angry.Some local and county leadership in Texas are ready to roll and work mass deportations.  Others are openly obstructing cooperation with ICE.  Importantly, ICE itself is obstructing ICE duties.  ICE is specifically at fault.  Any law enforcement who refuses to help mass deportations should see their federal funding cut immediately.  Likewise at State level, including Lone Star Texas.  Cut Texas funding immediately.  Section 287(g) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1357(g)) is being incinerated by various agencies in Texas.  Florida is working hard to get things done.  Texas is at best limping to catch Florida.  More realistically, Texas is behaving like California while Texas pretends to be TEXAS!  BE TEXAS: Deport!Colony Ridge in Liberty Country near Houston is effectively another sanctuary zone.  Yes, there was one flashy bust.  And then nothing.  ICE refuses to address Colony Ridge and other invasion colonization zones.  As does Texas DPS itself.  These bustling sanctuary rape and drug zones are heavily populated by illegals.  Texas Governor Abbott takes big money from the developer.  Remember…I warned about Abbott for years and took much flak.  It’s all turned out to be perfectly accurate.Nobody needs to go to Mexico to fight cartels.  They are very powerful and know how to throw the money around.  Abbott takes money to help cartels operate in sanctuary zones.  That makes Abbott part of the cartel machinery.  Bottom line.One photo from early yesterday morning.  Was too foggy.  But I have been here to Colony Ridge many times and published photos many times.  More later.Thank you for your support.  Relatively very few actually chip in.  Those few are what keeps this rolling.  In reality, only a small percentage of Americans do most of the work.  THANK YOU.It was YOUR funding that helped Burning Edge bring Congressmen, Epoch Times, and others to Colony Ridge.  Including Spencer and many others. Please donate.  I am not in the drug business like Governor Abbott — I depend on YOU.
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Every Sentence a Hate Crime
« Reply #2461 on: May 15, 2025, 07:04:38 PM »
Coulter eschews TDS long enough to pen a grimly amusing piece:

Make America Uganda!
I've always wanted to write a column where every sentence is a hate crime.
ANN COULTER
MAY 14, 2025

Liberals are furious that President Trump is admitting refugees who are actually being persecuted because of their race, as opposed to our usual policy, which is to admit poverty-stricken illiterates from totally dissonant cultures who will need government assistance for the next six generations -- PROVIDED THEY ARE NOT WHITE.

Since 1970, the United States has brought in 1 million Haitians and more than one-quarter of the population of Mexico. Somalis are flown in from 8,000 miles away -- then they vacation in Somalia, you know, where they were allegedly being persecuted.

Trump could have accomplished the same thing -- saving white South Africans from probable genocide -- by offering refugee status only to immigrants who are unlikely ever to need government assistance. As luck would have it, that's already the law (8 USC 1182 (a)(4)(A)).

Or only to those who've been fully vaccinated against mumps, measles, polio, etc., and, in light of the typical refugee, also against cholera, malaria, leprosy, yellow fever, typhoid fever, Ebola and other medieval diseases. That, too, is already the law (8 USC 1182 (a)(1)(A)(ii)).

Or to no one who is a witch doctor, Santeria priest or voodoo practitioner. (Again, already the law: 8 USC 1182 (a)(5)(B).)

These and many other provisions of federal immigration law have been entirely ignored for the past 50 years in order to bring in the poorest of the poor, who have no concept of Western civilization, preferably with wildly expensive medical problems and no means of support apart from criminal activity, who will require taxpayer support for the rest of their lives. But their selling point is, they're not white.

The other night, CNN's Anderson Cooper and The New York Times' Nicholas Kristof were in high dudgeon over Trump admitting English-speaking, non-welfare-receiving, Dutch-descended South Africans who are currently being threatened with dispossession and death by officials in their own government. (The Economic Freedom Fighters -- Motto: "Kill the Boer!" -- with 10% to 15% of the vote, are insistent that land and businesses be confiscated from white owners and redistributed to Black South Africans. The New York Times reports that "a large segment" of the governing African National Congress agrees.)

First, let's review Kristof's expertise on refugees. He spent a decade promoting a total fraud, Somaly Mam, who claimed she'd been beaten and prostituted as a child in Cambodia, sold to a brothel and tortured with electrodes. She wasn't white, so Mam became an instant celebrity, feted by Time magazine, Hillary Clinton, Sheryl Sandberg, Meg Ryan and Oprah.

Then it turned out her whole story was an elaborate Nigerian Prince scam, completely apocryphal from beginning to end, as was finally exposed by Newsweek magazine.

So we should definitely listen to Kristof when it comes to humanitarian cases.

Anderson and Kristof's main argument is that there are millions of non-whites out there! Why can't we get them instead of being saddled with 59 tall, healthy, educated, English-speaking South Africans?

It's hard to argue with that.

On the other hand, their beloved Afghans, who "saved the lives of American troops," according to both Cooper and Kristof (Cooper heard it from Jussie Smollett, and Kristof heard it from Somaly Mam), prefer to live under sharia law.

In case you're unfamiliar with the Taliban, their version of sharia prohibits women from leaving their homes without a male relative, forces them to wear head-to-toe burqas, and still employs stonings, public hangings and amputations as criminal punishments.

To each his own, but wouldn't the 99% of Afghans who told Pew they want to live that way be happier in one of the 35 countries that practice sharia law?

Cooper was especially incensed that we're not bringing Sudanese and Congolese people to our shores, testily adding, "On this program, we reported on the violence, the plight of people there in a series of programs in 2006." (Don't worry if you missed it, nothing's changed.)

Those countries have been beset by bloody civil wars, involving mass rape and millions dead. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE THAT IN OUR COUNTRY??? Not only that, but Congo has been "fighting for decades." What's not to like?

Cooper seems to think Congolese people merely need to be moved to a majority white country, like the U.S., in order to bring stability and safety to their lives. It's like busing on an international scale.

Unfortunately, the idea of the Great White Father died out with European colonialism. If the mightiest empires in the world could spend decades imposing Western values, the rule of law, modern medicine, engineering and farming techniques on these countries only to have them -- immediately, the moment the imperial power leaves -- erupt into bloody, violent, corrupt, cannibalistic dystopias, then bringing them here to collect welfare probably isn't going to help either.

By 1968, British historian Paul Johnson reported, the dozens of decolonized African nations had already experienced 64 military coups. Less than a decade later, 20 of the 41 independent African countries were ruled by military juntas and the rest were dominated by coups, wars, uprisings, massacres, starvation and sadistic rulers. None were democracies.

(Speaking of Congo, when Belgium withdrew in 1960, it had a booming industrial base, the highest literacy rate and most hospital beds in Africa. Five days after Independence Day, the Congolese military erupted in an ecstasy of violence, looting, killing and raping whites.)

Importing the third world doesn't turn third-worlders into us, it turns us into the third world.



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One of our beloved African refugees was Beatrice Munyenyezi, a victim of the Rwandan genocide that former U.N. ambassador Samantha Power desperately tried to get us involved in. Then it turned out that Munyenyezi was a perpetrator, not a victim of the genocide.

(Once again: I’m totally impressed with our immigration officials.)

And remember that nice pharmacist lady we brought in from Pakistan after she married an American? Within two years, Tashfeen Malik and her "American-born" husband, Syed Rizwan Farook, had committed mass murder in San Bernardino, California, killing 14 and injuring 22. According to the GAO, in the decade after 9/11, a majority of those convicted of terrorism offenses in the U.S. immigrated here legally.

American police say they are being asked to respect Mexican rape culture when 13-year-old Hispanic girls are impregnated by 40-year-old men. One detective said he'll show up at the house of the girl, expecting the family to be in a blind rage, only to be told "it’s a blessing and we’re so happy. I’ll explain it’s illegal, they cut me right off. I get a lot of those too.”

Cooper and Kristof’s other killer argument against the South African refugees is that they have ... white privilege! Please apologize now.

"These Afrikaners," Kristof said, "are among the most privileged people on the entire continent," adding that they have "assets 20 times greater than those of black South Africans on average."

So what? Does having assets mean the government isn't trying to kill you? Jews had more assets in Germany. Kulaks had more assets in Russia. Or is Kristof suggesting it's OK to persecute people with assets?

That would be bad news because you know where else whites have more assets than blacks? Here.

https://anncoulter.substack.com/p/make-america-uganda?r=1qo1e&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

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weaponized immigration; deportation, No one is above the law?
« Reply #2463 on: May 16, 2025, 07:58:16 AM »
Alina Habba, U.S. attorney for New Jersey, tweeted, “The Mayor of Newark, Ras Baraka, committed trespass and ignored multiple warnings from Homeland Security Investigations to remove himself from the ICE detention center in Newark, New Jersey this afternoon. He has willingly chosen to disregard the law. That will not stand in this state. He has been taken into custody. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.”

She must have missed that day in law school when students learned Democrats are above the law.

https://donsurber.substack.com/p/no-one-is-above-the-law-but?publication_id=1115457&post_id=163581651&isFreemail=true&r=9bg2k&triedRedirect=true


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Re: Immigration; weaponized immigration; deportation
« Reply #2464 on: May 16, 2025, 03:53:20 PM »
There may be an under commented nuance here.

IF I heard correctly, Congress folks have a right to unannounced visits as part of their oversight function.  This makes sense to me.   OTOH state critters such as the Dem mayor/gubernatorial candidate do NOT and like everyone else must schedule their visit.

If the Congress critters aided and abetted the illegal actions of the NJ State critters, presumably that is well outside their oversight function.

Also, there may be a matter concerning some vehicle (Fed?  State?) deliberately blocking the gate as part of the attempt to get the State critters inside.

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All the News that's Fit to ... Support the Needs of the Narrative
« Reply #2465 on: May 19, 2025, 12:23:36 PM »
Lo and behold, sundry media outlets wait until deep in a sob story to provide pertinant details about crimes committed by those they are shedding tears over:

The media's coverage of deportations is consciously manipulative

The Hill News by Becket Adams, Opinion Contributor / May 19, 2025 at 7:14 AM

Members of the press have hit upon a deliberate strategy to influence the debate surrounding immigrant deportations: Lead with emotion, then trickle out facts, perhaps selectively.

The coverage follows a pattern. First, the headline presents the deportee as a blameless bystander. Then come the laments — how the individual has been “ripped” from his community, how his family is in turmoil, how his life has been upended, and so on.

These individuals are often portrayed using unofficial but undeniably American labels: “Maryland dad,” “Georgetown scholar,” and “Harvard researcher.” Rarely, if ever, are they identified by nationality. Rarer still is any early detailed mention of criminal charges or convictions, where applicable. When details of accused or convicted wrongdoing emerge, they are buried deep within the piece, concealed beneath the advocacy quotes and appeals to sentiment.

This editorial sleight of hand has become too consistent to attribute to anything but intent. It is a conscious effort to steer the immigration debate in a direction that unequivocally favors the deportees.

Consider Newsweek’s Apr. 6 article titled, “Veteran who has been in U.S. since he was 4 years old faces deportation.” We are informed that Jose Barco is not only a veteran but also a decorated one. We learn that he served in Iraq. We learn that he is not a U.S. citizen. We are also told early on that he recently completed a 15-year prison sentence, but nothing more is mentioned about that for several paragraphs.

Before delving into his criminal record, Newsweek takes the reader on a walking tour of Barco’s personal history, including his family ties, his unit’s history, and a boilerplate quote noting that while the Trump administration “says it is prioritizing individuals with criminal records or gang affiliations, some legal residents and non-criminal immigrants have also been detained and deported.”

Not until paragraph 17 do we learn the only important fact in the entire story: that in 2008, Barco “opened fire on a house party crowd in Colorado Springs, striking a 19-year-old, who was five months pregnant at the time, in the leg.” He was convicted of two counts of attempted first-degree murder and one count of felony menacing. That detail, clearly central to any assessment of Barco’s case, is relegated to the article’s back third.

Newsweek also published a similarly structured but less egregious piece titled, “DACA recipient who came to U.S. when he was 4 years old deported.” We meet Evenezer Cortez Martinez, a husband and father who was deported to Mexico. We are informed of his abrupt removal, his attorney’s protests, the extent of the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown, and his years spent living in the U.S. under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals.

Not until paragraph 12 do we learn that Martinez had also been “ordered removed in absentia” last June, during the Biden administration. We also learn that his advance parole document was “issued in error,” according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

Again, these are pertinent facts, yet we find them oddly delayed or undersold.

This is reminiscent of ProPublica's 2017 tearjerker, titled, “They got hurt at work. Then they got deported,” which downplayed identity fraud for purposes of undocumented immigrant advocacy. That report’s subhead warned of supposedly shady insurance company tactics under Florida law and dark implications for “Trump’s America.” The outraged tone only gives way a few paragraphs later, when we learn that one of the featured migrants lost his coverage after he was caught using a dead man’s Social Security number. Even after that admission, the tone remains sympathetic — undocumented workers who committed identity fraud are presented as victims first, lawbreakers second.

ABC News and NBC News recently published reports on a Russian researcher at Harvard, with headlines that read, “DOJ charges Harvard researcher who expressed fears over being returned to Russia” and “Russian medical researcher at Harvard, who protested the Ukraine war, detained by ICE.”

It’s only after the headlines and subheads, and after NBC's claim that the researcher has a "history of persecution ... over her political activity" that we learn that she was caught smuggling undeclared Petri dishes, unknown substances, and embryonic frog cells into the U.S. without permits. And it’s not until the 23rd paragraph of the NBC story that we learn immigration officials claim they found messages on the researcher’s phone indicating she planned to smuggle the materials and had taken deliberate steps to evade detection.  ABC's report omitted that detail entirely. The "Harvard researcher" was officially charged with smuggling last week.

There are instances where immigration officials commit serious errors, as appears to be the case in the recent deportation of two Salvadoran brothers from Long Island. That’s real news and worthy of scrutiny. But is it unreasonable to ask that we not paper over the very legitimate reasons some people are deported, rather than place our entire weight on the side of the scale that presumes no one should ever be deported?

Consider the May 8 New York Times headline: “He faced a possible prison term for assault. Instead, he was deported.” The subhead reads, “Federal agents are rounding up criminal defendants and deporting them before trial. Local prosecutors say the disruptions make communities less safe.”

One might reasonably argue that deporting a man accused of assault contributes to community safety. But that type of thinking apparently no longer fits into today’s immigration coverage.

Becket Adams is a writer in Washington and program director for the National Journalism Center.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/5303703-1st-slug-immigration-deportations-coverage-strategy/

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Re: Immigration; weaponized immigration; deportation
« Reply #2466 on: May 20, 2025, 07:07:46 AM »
Yup.   Good one for the Media thread too.

Doubling up on posts is OK, the point is to make them more readily findable down the road.


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Make it Easier to Hire & Retain Skilled Non-Citizens?
« Reply #2468 on: May 22, 2025, 04:43:16 AM »
I hesitate to post this as I assume there is more to this story and the implicit objections to it. Having said that, it does strike me as pretty darn silly to erect barriers that make it more difficult to retain highly skilled non-citizen labor. As someone who spent a couple decades in the food biz I’d go further as I worked with A LOT of very apt Latinos doing jobs few Americans were willing to do and do well and hence think most of the problems associated with less skilled imported labor would evaporate if the businesses hiring them had to sponsor them and otherwise associate entry to the US with a job, one that pays taxes, and is not eligible for welfare and other magnet bennies.


As that may be, this source is one I trust so I think its point is worth mulling:

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2025/05/no-brains.html


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Re: Immigration; refugees South African farmers
« Reply #2470 on: May 23, 2025, 11:01:33 AM »
Not sure the thread and can't find the video, but Scott Jennings was surrounded by Leftists over this issue.

Trump flew 59 South Africans here on some emergency refugee status.  They are allegedly farmers and threatened with their lives.

They are white.

So it's pointed out that millions or thousands of other Africans are murdered and in bad situations, why are we not bringing all of them in?

Rubio had a similar argument put on him by Senator Van Hollum.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/20/politics/video/rubio-van-hollen-heated-exchange-senate-digvid

[Doug]  The blacks being murdered in South Africa are black on black crime, not racially targeted.  And we don't know in advance, which are the murderers and which will be murdered.

Rubio explained something like this.  There was a chance to help and rescue some people and we did it. The President ordered it.

There isn't an opportunity to fly 1.5 billion people out of Africa.  We can't do it and it wouldn't help them if we could.

But of course we do similar things with plenty of people who are not white.  Exhibit A: Ilhan Omar.  She came her legally recued from a civil war in Somalia, along with a huge population relocated here.

Rubio said, "you're the one who brought up race."

Racism is in the mirror.  It would be racist of course if we were to NOT do this rescue just because the are white.  That's race.

More coverage: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/05/the_media_pounces_on_a_small_trump_error_to_distract_from_the_bigger_truth_about_south_africa.html
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/05/president-trump-is-right-about-whats-happening-in-south-africa/
https://thefederalist.com/2025/05/22/the-media-dismiss-anti-white-violence-in-south-africa-because-it-undermines-their-agenda/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgr5xe7z0y0o
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A rhetorical pugilistic blow
« Reply #2474 on: May 29, 2025, 09:28:58 PM »
Harvard was held by SCOTUS to discriminate against Asian (Chinese and Japanese and Korean) Americans, but now discrimates in favor of CCP Chinese.