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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1200 on: September 07, 2023, 08:24:48 AM »
I notice the other Doug, Burgun
has been airing commercials promising to do just that of late

get us back to energy independence

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25 refrigerators of energy, 3 reasons the EV push is sinister
« Reply #1201 on: September 07, 2023, 08:39:21 AM »
25 Refrigerators per household.  Since I don't use AC, the refrigerator is the biggest electricity user in the home.  Now move transportation to the electric grid and see what happens. Crash.

https://internationalman.com/articles/3-reasons-theres-something-sinister-with-the-big-push-for-electric-vehicles/

(Paraphrasing)
1. It doesn't help the environment.
2. They don't compete without subsidies.
3. It is part of a much larger move to control you.

Number three is enough for me.  Reasons one and two expose policy stupidity, but giving them more levers of control is sinister.  Just say no.
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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1202 on: September 07, 2023, 04:44:36 PM »


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GPF:Turkish-Israeli-Euro pipeline dead in water
« Reply #1204 on: September 15, 2023, 07:09:30 AM »
IIRC we posted something a ways back about the Biden Admin fukking with this- see the line herein about in withdrawing support in Jan '22:

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The Turkish-Israeli Gas Pipeline Is Dead in the Water
Regional disputes and rival plans could deal another blow to Turkey’s dream of becoming an energy hub.
By: Caroline D. Rose
A partial solution to Europe’s energy crisis can be found off the coast of Israel, roughly a mile beneath the surface of the Mediterranean Sea. Now they just need a cheaper way to transport it.

For more than a year, Turkish and Israeli officials have shuffled between each other’s capitals, hinting at a potential energy corridor linking the Leviathan offshore gas field to Europe. Plans for a pipeline have been around for years but were re-energized in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, as the European Union sought to replace the 40 percent of its gas supplies that came from Russia. But while it would be much cheaper than rival projects (such as the EastMed pipeline), regional politics, unpredictable market demand and emerging alternatives mean the Turkish-backed pipeline is unlikely to be built.

Proposed Israel-Turkey Gas Pipeline
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Investors, industrialists and government officials have been working up proposals to move natural gas from Israel’s Leviathan field to consumers in Europe since the field’s discovery more than a decade ago. A previous plan, the EastMed pipeline, broke down over its hefty $6 billion price tag, sharp criticism from Turkey over its exclusion, and finally the Biden administration’s January 2022 decision to withdraw U.S. support. A short time later, Ankara pitched its much cheaper alternative: a $1.5 billion, 500-kilometer (310-mile) route from Leviathan to Turkey, which dreams of becoming a regional gas hub.

The first challenge was that Israel and Turkey were hardly on speaking terms. The regional rivals have deep-seated differences over energy exploration in the Mediterranean, the Cyprus conflict and the Israeli-Palestinian issue. In February 2022, a high-level Turkish delegation visited Israel to break the ice, framing energy cooperation as key to further political, economic and security collaboration after years of strained relations. The following month, Israel’s president trekked to Ankara – the first state visit to Turkey by a high-ranking Israeli official in a decade – where the pipeline was discussed. Turkey’s foreign minister traveled to Jerusalem in May to continue the conversation, and by August the two sides had agreed to restore diplomatic relations.

Both sides gave ground to reach this point. When Israeli security forces clashed with Palestinian protesters at the Al-Aqsa Mosque last spring, the Turkish government refrained from criticism – something that would have been unthinkable not long ago. Similarly, Israel went quiet on the Eastern Mediterranean Gas Forum, the regional bloc that pushed the EastMed pipeline, indicating greater interest in alternative energy projects. Amid intensifying great-power competition, it is in both countries’ interest to patch things up with old foes for the benefit of foreign policy flexibility.

However, a subsea pipeline through multiple countries’ exclusive economic zones is still a major undertaking. Facing uncertain demand dynamics, intricate regional politics and new challengers, the Israeli-Turkish pipeline is likely dead in the water.

First, the pipeline would cross Cyprus’ EEZ, touching on a sore spot for Mediterranean stakeholders. Since 1974, the island of Cyprus has been split between a Greek Cypriot south and a Turkish-occupied north. The Turkish government does not recognize the Greek Cypriot government, whose approval would be required before starting construction within its EEZ. Additionally, the main backer of the Greek Cypriot government, Greece, has its own ambitions to become a bigger transit state for gas to Europe and would not want to see its rivals in Turkey strengthened. Greece, Cyprus and Israel are all members of the Eastern Mediterranean Gas Forum, and they frequently conduct military exercises together, so it is unlikely that Israel would proceed with the pipeline project without their support.

Similar issues could arise with Syria, whose EEZ the pipeline would also likely traverse. After Iran, Israel considers Syria to be one of its greatest regional foes. In addition to decades of bad blood and territorial disputes, the Assad government has recently unnerved the Israelis by staging Iran-aligned militias and Hezbollah fighters along their shared border. Turkey flirted with normalizing relations with the Assad regime, particularly after the February 2023 earthquake that devastated northern Syria and southern Turkey, but it held back because of disagreements over the status of northwest Syria and the repatriation of Syrian refugees, among other things. Trying to gain Syria’s consent for a pipeline through its EEZ would be fraught for Turkey, but for Israel it’s a nonstarter.

Finally, an alternative project may be taking shape in the form of the India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor, which includes Israel but not Turkey. Consisting of railways, ports, electricity and data links, and even infrastructure to make and ship green hydrogen, the IMEC is a formidable rival. It also enjoys the support of India, the U.S., the EU and the Arab Gulf states. Although Israel did not sign the memorandum of understanding outlining plans for the IMEC, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu voiced support for the deal, indicating potential interest not only in participating in the corridor but also in using it to build on normalization efforts with the Arab Gulf states. Such a gargantuan undertaking will be hard to get off the ground, but if it includes Israel, it would make plans for a pipeline with Turkey redundant.

Proposed India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor
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An Israeli-Turkish energy corridor to Europe makes sense on paper. It would satisfy Europe’s need for alternative gas suppliers, Turkey’s quest to become an energy hub and Israeli efforts to improve and diversify relations in the Middle East. However, given the issues with Cyprus and Syria, not to mention the IMEC proposal, Turkey will probably soon be its lone proponent.
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US oil production up
« Reply #1205 on: September 17, 2023, 10:03:24 AM »
I wondered about that too
thinking we must be sending it overseas

recently Kudlow had guest who explained we are sending overseas - to Europe

we blow up Nordstream then send them our oil  :-o

can we blow up Saudi oil and fill in the gap?  Just kidding

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$6 gas in LA
« Reply #1206 on: September 17, 2023, 11:56:02 AM »
Just what the Democrats promised.  Actually $8/gallon:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-jul-11-oe-stein11-story.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/gas-prices-continue-to-steadily-increase-in-la-county/

Why aren't working Americans celebrating this?  It's what too many of you voted for.
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Only rich people should have heated homes
« Reply #1208 on: October 02, 2023, 06:54:24 AM »
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/biden-administration-places-restrictions-gas-powered-furnaces-says-it-will

In the 4 million person Twin Cities area roughly 100% use clean natural gas to heat their homes.

If you switch to electric, the number one source of that electricity is, um, natural gas, in our state and in the nation.

Put transportation and heat on the grid and two things happen, nearly all of the increase needs to come from natural gas, and, guess what, OUTAGES, always atvthe very worst time.

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The True Cost of Farm Killing “Green” Energy
« Reply #1209 on: October 12, 2023, 10:22:45 AM »
As with most things where our government betters place their thumbs on the scale, perverse incentives, unanticipated outcomes, and deals with various devils are all part of the package:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/08/modern_energy_and_your_turbine_footprint.html?fbclid=IwAR1Px97M4Oly8IaPID1UNLi2TdZRpSuwuq9st-uE143CPnhCYzkWHoHvej8

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Greens in Germany & Luxembourg Lose
« Reply #1212 on: October 13, 2023, 07:54:51 PM »
Recent elections don’t go well for Greens, open border advocates, etc. Several parallels with American politics; does this result bode something similar in ‘24?

https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2023/10/13/european-elections-ashes-ashes-the-greens-fall-down-n584628?fbclid=IwAR2ycI6t-1PLnJ_gPuTZhXTnVDjaiIHYWqnrp9zYu0D_U8GnzT5JJjw5dng


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Re: Net Zero REQUIRES a Command Economy & Reduced Standard of Living
« Reply #1214 on: October 14, 2023, 05:27:05 AM »
Completely true but I suspect it is backwards.  The command economy and poverty purveyors have latched onto the net zero strategy.  From their own behavior, it's clear they don't care about carbon.

A climate researcher last week claimed he lost his job for not being willing to (jet) travel.
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/scientist-fired-refuse-fly-gianluca-grimalda-b2428809.html

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1215 on: October 14, 2023, 07:24:30 AM »
I don't see a problem

if net cost only over 35 trillion

just ask Paul Krugman.

so our debt goes to 70 trill.

he told us world is "awash in cash"

if Krugman is not fake news, I don't know what is !  :x

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1216 on: October 14, 2023, 10:32:18 AM »
BBG:  That Net Zero piece by Kelly is very strong.

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Re: Net Zero REQUIRES a Command Economy & Reduced Standard of Living
« Reply #1217 on: October 14, 2023, 10:13:37 PM »
Completely true but I suspect it is backwards.  The command economy and poverty purveyors have latched onto the net zero strategy.  From their own behavior, it's clear they don't care about carbon.

A climate researcher last week claimed he lost his job for not being willing to (jet) travel.
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/scientist-fired-refuse-fly-gianluca-grimalda-b2428809.html
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Utterly par for the course where the Davos jet set types are concerned, with the irony considered irrelevant as they are either one of Gaia’s chosen or in on the scam and hence don’t give a damn about the carbon fetish in the first place.

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Energy Density; Less Efficiency Requires More Space to Create Energy
« Reply #1219 on: October 24, 2023, 01:37:14 PM »
An exploration of the amount of space a given energy needs to create its power, and the implications thereof. Hint: "green" energy sources require a lot more space to be devoted to energy production:

https://the-pipeline.org/saving-the-planet-only-to-despoil-it/?fbclid=IwAR1jjqKtrYfbg7-pNYuGYzjvnu4Jcv-ZOR8_xwP-Wm2WmXoQ_FUxOP6Bev0

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1220 on: October 24, 2023, 02:24:59 PM »
A powerful point pithily made-- I had not thought to express things in this way.

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1221 on: October 24, 2023, 03:00:51 PM »
A powerful point pithily made-- I had not thought to express things in this way.

Well hey, who needs pastures and agricultural fields when we can instead convert it into alcohol, solar, and wind farms?


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Banks shun real energy for political risk
« Reply #1223 on: October 26, 2023, 07:14:35 AM »
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Oil-Refiners-Struggle-To-Access-Financing-As-Banks-Shun-Fossil-Fuel-Projects.html

Energy independence was once a dream.  Then a reality.  Now it's in the rear view mirror.

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Re: Energy Density; Less Efficiency Requires More Space to Create Energy
« Reply #1224 on: October 26, 2023, 08:15:45 AM »
An exploration of the amount of space a given energy needs to create its power, and the implications thereof. Hint: "green" energy sources require a lot more space to be devoted to energy production:

https://the-pipeline.org/saving-the-planet-only-to-despoil-it/?fbclid=IwAR1jjqKtrYfbg7-pNYuGYzjvnu4Jcv-ZOR8_xwP-Wm2WmXoQ_FUxOP6Bev0

Nuclear energy uses the least amount of land.
https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-per-energy-source
Leaving the most available for other uses, like living and growing food.

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Green Energy in the Red
« Reply #1225 on: October 28, 2023, 10:18:06 PM »

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True Cost of EVs
« Reply #1226 on: October 28, 2023, 10:42:48 PM »
2nd post. Once subsidies are are accounted for EVs are far more costly to fuel than generally reported:

https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_a609f8aa-7443-11ee-83d3-df5b22909078.html

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1227 on: October 29, 2023, 06:31:02 AM »
When I went to buy my Ford Maverick pick up truck, the base model was a hybrid.  In addition to my general aversion to EV, it lacked the balls to tow so it was an easy call to make one step up in price and get an all gasoline engine that had the balls to tow as well.  SO glad I went this route!

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1228 on: October 29, 2023, 08:46:02 AM »
When I went to buy my Ford Maverick pick up truck, the base model was a hybrid.  In addition to my general aversion to EV, it lacked the balls to tow so it was an easy call to make one step up in price and get an all gasoline engine that had the balls to tow as well.  SO glad I went this route!

Yes.  A choice.  Not a mandate.

One point in favor of hybrids, regenerative braking is a great thing, partially offsetting the energy of acceleration.  But hybrids aren't for everyone or every situation.  For one thing, they aren't supposed to sit still long.  Aren't we supposed to be able to leave our car in the garage and drive less?  And there eventually is battery replacement.

Does anyone remember the whole SUV craze started in response to government CAFE mandates, corporate average fuel economy mandates that forced auto manufacturers out of the big family station wagons people wanted so they shifted from 'passenger cars' to 'light trucks', a different standard, that just happen to now have cruise, leather, power everything and feel like a luxury car.  How much gas did we save with THAT.

And then there is this:

Study: Cost of ‘fueling’ an electric vehicle is equivalent to $17.33 per gallon
https://www.kpvi.com/news/national_news/study-cost-of-fueling-an-electric-vehicle-is-equivalent-to-17-33-per-gallon/article_caff6214-815b-5a60-b54d-8e13d5989458.html

"costs born by taxpayers for subsidies, utility ratepayers for energy investments, and non-electric vehicle owners for mandate-and-environmental-credit-driven higher vehicle costs, which they say total $48,698 per EV."

(Doug) Let's see, you need oil to mine the materials, you need oil to manufacture the car, to ship, to service, to power the grid, to make the tires, and so on.  Otherwise they use no fossil fuels!

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1229 on: October 29, 2023, 09:54:13 AM »
FWIW I am not a believer in regenerative braking due to my wife's experience with her Toyota Highlander.  When it is time to do , , , whatever the hell the equivalent is of putting in new brake pads, it is SUPER expensive.

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Best Way to Extinguish a Flaming Electric Vehicle?
« Reply #1232 on: November 14, 2023, 06:35:50 AM »
Best Way to Extinguish a Flaming Electric Vehicle?

News you can use.

WSJ: Stand back and watch it burn.

https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/best-way-to-extinguish-a-flaming-electric-vehicle-let-it-burn-f1fa2b53?st=77rc3w4g3k448l6

But let's all get one.  Taxpayers will pay you to get one.  Even if you're a billionaire.

Software controlled car, government loves the shutoff switch.

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Mark Mills at George Gilder's 2023 COSM
« Reply #1233 on: November 17, 2023, 07:30:37 AM »
These and other facts and insights from Mark Mills at George Gilder's 2023 COSM event:

US is spending $2 trillion in the mis-named Inflation Reduction Act to reduce CO2 emissions by 1 Gigaton/yr.

During that time, China will INCREASE its CO2 emissions with new coal plants by 2 Gigatons/yr.

Net save-the-climate gain:  worse than zero.

Meanwhile, China will have a huge cost advantage on the production of everything else because of much cheaper energy.

China produces over 60% of the world’s aluminum, refines over half of the world’s copper—the element that is the keystone of 90% of all things electrical—and 90% of the world’s refined rare earth elements vital for many electric motors or generators, and irreplaceable in many high-tech applications including solar cells and wind generators, 90% of the globes refined gallium, the element that makes possible the magical semiconductor gallium-arsenide used to make many tech things, not least lasers and LEDs; and 60% of the world’s refined lithium, 80% of the world’s refined graphite that is used in all lithium batteries, and 50% to 90% of many key chemical formulations and polymer parts needed to fabricate lithium batteries.

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Two decades and $5 Trillion spent on solar and wind energy to reduce fossil fuels.  That spending "decreased the share of energy supplied by hydrocarbons by just two percentage points. Today hydrocarbons still supply 82% of global energy. And the combined contribution from solar and wind hardware today supplies under 4% of global energy. For context: burning wood still supplies 10% of global energy. Meanwhile, the absolute quantity, not share, of hydrocarbons consumed by the world over the past two decades has increased by an amount, in energy-equivalent terms, to adding six Saudi Arabia’s worth of oil output."

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Jevons Paradox:  Efficiency gains don’t slow energy demand growth, it propels it.
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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1234 on: November 17, 2023, 07:58:12 AM »
DO NOT CLICK ON THE POWERCOSM LINK.  SUPER BAD JUJU. 

CINDY AND OUR WEBMASTER BOB ARE WORKING TO VERIFY WHAT THE F!!!

Doug, you have email.

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Cindy just told me she was able to get Norton running now, but until the situation clafifies I am using my laptop instead.

Stay tuned!
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from new website "the cool down"
« Reply #1235 on: November 17, 2023, 08:41:08 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-law-that-will-change-the-way-millions-of-americans-get-their-power-it-s-a-big-deal/ar-AA1d0ibh?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=5c16d48e169f454492512a3ebbd12c48&ei=12

gotta love this nonsense

"Rural energy is getting a long overdue makeover. Thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act, the government has earmarked $10.7 billion to help make energy cleaner and more affordable for 42 million people across the country, as Canary Media reported."

Here is the new propaganda site (probably got seed money from Gates etc.)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-cool-down-new-website-aims-to-be-the-first-mainstream-climate-change-brand/ar-AA14B19Y

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US and China coal consumption
« Reply #1236 on: November 17, 2023, 04:58:21 PM »
US burning less coal.  China is burning more coal .  Perspective is shown in a graphic:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2023/11/Screenshot-2023-11-17-at-1.41.27%E2%80%AFPM-1536x922.png

Odd but true, the more we spend on clean energy, the dirtier the planet gets.
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As the Bills Come Due Even the Zealots …
« Reply #1237 on: November 17, 2023, 08:42:47 PM »
… are forced to confront some inconvenient truths:

https://www.samizdata.net/2023/11/climate-fatigue/


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Energy Politics, Alberta, Canada
« Reply #1239 on: November 28, 2023, 02:29:12 PM »
Putting this in energy topic as well.

https://youtu.be/uJAcywyx0ZA?si=efmv5cr-L_EKArL5

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22 countries including US pledge to triple nuclear power
« Reply #1240 on: December 03, 2023, 07:22:49 PM »
Famous people caught reading the forum:

https://www.powermag.com/22-countries-including-u-s-pledge-to-triple-nuclear-power-capacity/

It's about bleeping time.

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Brendon O'Neill
« Reply #1242 on: December 05, 2023, 06:59:25 AM »
BBG:

interesting stuff on the author of the article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_O%27Neill_(columnist)

" Once a Trotskyist, O'Neill was formerly a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party and wrote for the party's journal Living Marxism. In 2019, O'Neill said he was a Marxist libertarian.[2][3]" 

What in the world is a marxist liberterian ? Is that not like saying I am a man and woman at the same time?

" In 2020, in relation to COVID-19, he has argued that "this pandemic has shown us what life would be like if environmentalists got their way"[35][36] and condemned the "chilling" and "dangerous" "witch-hunting of those who criticise the response to coronavirus".[37] "

" He criticised the Swedish environmentalist activist Greta Thunberg in his 2019 article "The Cult of Greta Thunberg"[26] in which he describes her as a "millenarian weirdo" and criticises what he describes as the "monotone voice" speech patterns[27][28][29][30] of the Swedish environmentalist. O'Neill has described warnings concerning overpopulation as a "Malthusian" interference in a women's right to reproductive freedom.[31]"

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1243 on: December 05, 2023, 07:32:45 AM »
"What in the world is a marxist libertarian?"

  - Just for the record, there isn't any system where the pursuit of equal outcomes happens without authoritarian coercion.

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Socialist liberterianism
« Reply #1244 on: December 05, 2023, 08:12:37 AM »
comes up on search

anti capitalist & centralized control
and workers in groups have common ownership


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

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Re: Brendon O'Neill
« Reply #1245 on: December 05, 2023, 10:19:23 AM »
BBG:

interesting stuff on the author of the article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_O%27Neill_(columnist)

" Once a Trotskyist, O'Neill was formerly a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party and wrote for the party's journal Living Marxism. In 2019, O'Neill said he was a Marxist libertarian.[2][3]" 

What in the world is a marxist liberterian ? Is that not like saying I am a man and woman at the same time?

" In 2020, in relation to COVID-19, he has argued that "this pandemic has shown us what life would be like if environmentalists got their way"[35][36] and condemned the "chilling" and "dangerous" "witch-hunting of those who criticise the response to coronavirus".[37] "

" He criticised the Swedish environmentalist activist Greta Thunberg in his 2019 article "The Cult of Greta Thunberg"[26] in which he describes her as a "millenarian weirdo" and criticises what he describes as the "monotone voice" speech patterns[27][28][29][30] of the Swedish environmentalist. O'Neill has described warnings concerning overpopulation as a "Malthusian" interference in a women's right to reproductive freedom.[31]"

What can I say, I'm fond of eclectic, heterodox sources that like to stir things up. I note spiked's "about" page states:

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Our motto is ‘question everything’ – or as the New York Times put it, we are ‘the often-biting British publication fond of puncturing all manner of ideological balloons’.

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I can more than endure many of those sentiments.

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1246 on: December 05, 2023, 12:42:23 PM »
I don't disagree with much of what was written, but I also like to know more about an author.

He *was* a Trotsky or Marxist-libertarian. I think I understand what that is after reading it.
What I do not see in Wikipedia is how he would describe his political beliefs NOW.

Not clear to me since he seems to have both liberal and conservative views. Maybe middle of the road on LEFT RIGHT spectrum?

just curious

 

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1247 on: December 05, 2023, 01:37:50 PM »
I don't disagree with much of what was written, but I also like to know more about an author.

He *was* a Trotsky or Marxist-libertarian. I think I understand what that is after reading it.
What I do not see in Wikipedia is how he would describe his political beliefs NOW.

Not clear to me since he seems to have both liberal and conservative views. Maybe middle of the road on LEFT RIGHT spectrum?

just curious

 

My guess is he likes shining folks on—I’m an imperial republicrat myself—though that guess is based on my own warped tendencies and the contradictions in terms already mulled.

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I Came to Hear about the Falling Sky & all I got was this Oil Deal
« Reply #1248 on: December 07, 2023, 11:19:59 AM »
Got your daily dose of cognitive dissonance, fortunately of the good kind. Green energy conference morphs into fossil fuel trade show:

https://www.cfact.org/2023/12/07/cop-28-is-a-really-big-fossil-fuel-trade-show/?fbclid=IwAR39EZJJms7Yxlcr4HvYGm6Hji6eqO0pmWi99p5bEMYbXcBq8vP7knE0fSY

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1249 on: December 07, 2023, 11:23:20 AM »
"Green energy conference morphs into fossil fuel trade show"

 :-D :-D :-D