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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1051 on: September 27, 2022, 02:20:38 PM »
Whoa , , ,



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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1054 on: September 27, 2022, 03:09:17 PM »
don't forget the "greens" as motivated


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« Reply #1055 on: September 27, 2022, 03:15:43 PM »
don't forget the "greens" as motivated

There might be some crazy greens with the motivation, but the ability ?

Where has the USS Kearsarge been recently?

"Kearsarge is capable of amphibious assault, advance force and special purpose operations, as well as non-combatant evacuation and other humanitarian missions. Since her commissioning, she has performed these missions all over the world"

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Re: Sabotage
« Reply #1056 on: September 27, 2022, 03:51:35 PM »
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/401129.php

https://twitter.com/i/status/1490792461979078662

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Russia, Europe, and the Golden Goose Named Nord Stream
> Matt Bracken / Sep 27, 2022

Today, September 27, "somebody" blew up both Nord Stream pipelines by underwater sabotage, that is, with a submarine/mini submarine/frogman demolition raid. Who? "Somebody." But only Americans watching brain-dead up-is-down 2+2=5 propaganda 24/7 will believe Putin ordered it. Why?

Because Russia controls the natural gas input to the Nord Stream pipelines with valves. They can turn the pressure on and off at will. As long as the pipelines are undamaged, Russia holds more face cards and has more options.

What happened today with the submarine/mini-sub/frogman pipeline demo attack, was that Europe lost ANY chance to reconsider its sanctions against Russia in return for more natural gas.

Now, who, pray tell, might want to forestall ANY opportunity for Europeans to reconsider their sanctions against Russia, as winter sets in, people freeze, and factories shut down, leading to mass unemployment, the worst economic depression in a century, and possibly mass riots that could overturn governments?

Think hard. Ponder. Did Russia originally cut off Europe’s gas? NO. Europe put sanctions on Russia over Ukraine and said, “We won’t buy your nasty damn Russian gas anymore.” But, the option to reconsider sanctions, and buy Russian gas again, was always open. Russia controlled the valves, and was always willing to honor their multi-year contracts and keep selling natural gas to Europe. {Buying with Rubles, etc, as many countries are.]

Now, after the Nord Stream pipelines were blown up today, the option for Europeans to reconsider their anti-Russian sanctions is closed, at least this winter. Only America can send them replacement liquid natural gas, and we can’t send half of what they need by LNG tanker. Way less than half.

So Europe is now SCREWED. Trapped like a cave diver who is a thousand feet from the cave exit, looking at his last air bottle's gauge, as the needle heads to zero. He's not going to make it, and he knows it.

Here is another analogy. A guy you don’t like much owns a golden goose. Every day it lays a golden egg, and you buy the gold egg on favorable terms. Every day, long term contract. You do massive jewelry business, whatever. The deal works for both of you.

Now, you get into a fight with the owner of the goose, mainly on behalf of one of your much richer friends who hates the goose guy even MORE than you hate him. You are pressured into not buying any of they guy’s golden eggs. Your rich friend assures you that soon the owner of the golden goose will come begging you to buy his golden eggs again, because his income has been cut off.

But it doesn’t work out the way your rich friend said. Turns out, Mr. Golden Goose can sell his golden eggs to other people. He’s not going broke. On the other hand, you, the big league jeweler, you ARE going broke without the gold. You are looking at closing your chain of jewelry outlets and laying everybody off. Bankrupt.

Now, is it logical, do you believe, that under any circumstance, the owner of the golden goose is going to break the neck of his golden goose and kill it, out of a fit of pique, BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO BUY HIS GOLDEN EGGS!?

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Re: Sabotage
« Reply #1057 on: September 27, 2022, 06:21:45 PM »
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/401129.php

https://twitter.com/i/status/1490792461979078662

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Russia, Europe, and the Golden Goose Named Nord Stream
> Matt Bracken / Sep 27, 2022

Today, September 27, "somebody" blew up both Nord Stream pipelines by underwater sabotage, that is, with a submarine/mini submarine/frogman demolition raid. Who? "Somebody." But only Americans watching brain-dead up-is-down 2+2=5 propaganda 24/7 will believe Putin ordered it. Why?

Because Russia controls the natural gas input to the Nord Stream pipelines with valves. They can turn the pressure on and off at will. As long as the pipelines are undamaged, Russia holds more face cards and has more options.

What happened today with the submarine/mini-sub/frogman pipeline demo attack, was that Europe lost ANY chance to reconsider its sanctions against Russia in return for more natural gas.

Now, who, pray tell, might want to forestall ANY opportunity for Europeans to reconsider their sanctions against Russia, as winter sets in, people freeze, and factories shut down, leading to mass unemployment, the worst economic depression in a century, and possibly mass riots that could overturn governments?

Think hard. Ponder. Did Russia originally cut off Europe’s gas? NO. Europe put sanctions on Russia over Ukraine and said, “We won’t buy your nasty damn Russian gas anymore.” But, the option to reconsider sanctions, and buy Russian gas again, was always open. Russia controlled the valves, and was always willing to honor their multi-year contracts and keep selling natural gas to Europe. {Buying with Rubles, etc, as many countries are.]

Now, after the Nord Stream pipelines were blown up today, the option for Europeans to reconsider their anti-Russian sanctions is closed, at least this winter. Only America can send them replacement liquid natural gas, and we can’t send half of what they need by LNG tanker. Way less than half.

So Europe is now SCREWED. Trapped like a cave diver who is a thousand feet from the cave exit, looking at his last air bottle's gauge, as the needle heads to zero. He's not going to make it, and he knows it.

Here is another analogy. A guy you don’t like much owns a golden goose. Every day it lays a golden egg, and you buy the gold egg on favorable terms. Every day, long term contract. You do massive jewelry business, whatever. The deal works for both of you.

Now, you get into a fight with the owner of the goose, mainly on behalf of one of your much richer friends who hates the goose guy even MORE than you hate him. You are pressured into not buying any of they guy’s golden eggs. Your rich friend assures you that soon the owner of the golden goose will come begging you to buy his golden eggs again, because his income has been cut off.

But it doesn’t work out the way your rich friend said. Turns out, Mr. Golden Goose can sell his golden eggs to other people. He’s not going broke. On the other hand, you, the big league jeweler, you ARE going broke without the gold. You are looking at closing your chain of jewelry outlets and laying everybody off. Bankrupt.

Now, is it logical, do you believe, that under any circumstance, the owner of the golden goose is going to break the neck of his golden goose and kill it, out of a fit of pique, BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO BUY HIS GOLDEN EGGS!?

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/damage-nord-stream-pipelines-unprecedented-may-have-been-sabotaged



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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1060 on: September 28, 2022, 06:00:18 AM »
"There might be some crazy greens with the motivation, but the ability ?"

I heard Greta T knows people ......

How dare you !

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Re: Sabotage
« Reply #1061 on: September 28, 2022, 08:18:23 AM »
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/401129.php

https://twitter.com/i/status/1490792461979078662

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Russia, Europe, and the Golden Goose Named Nord Stream
> Matt Bracken / Sep 27, 2022

Today, September 27, "somebody" blew up both Nord Stream pipelines by underwater sabotage, that is, with a submarine/mini submarine/frogman demolition raid. Who? "Somebody." But only Americans watching brain-dead up-is-down 2+2=5 propaganda 24/7 will believe Putin ordered it. Why?

Because Russia controls the natural gas input to the Nord Stream pipelines with valves. They can turn the pressure on and off at will. As long as the pipelines are undamaged, Russia holds more face cards and has more options.

What happened today with the submarine/mini-sub/frogman pipeline demo attack, was that Europe lost ANY chance to reconsider its sanctions against Russia in return for more natural gas.

Now, who, pray tell, might want to forestall ANY opportunity for Europeans to reconsider their sanctions against Russia, as winter sets in, people freeze, and factories shut down, leading to mass unemployment, the worst economic depression in a century, and possibly mass riots that could overturn governments?

Think hard. Ponder. Did Russia originally cut off Europe’s gas? NO. Europe put sanctions on Russia over Ukraine and said, “We won’t buy your nasty damn Russian gas anymore.” But, the option to reconsider sanctions, and buy Russian gas again, was always open. Russia controlled the valves, and was always willing to honor their multi-year contracts and keep selling natural gas to Europe. {Buying with Rubles, etc, as many countries are.]

Now, after the Nord Stream pipelines were blown up today, the option for Europeans to reconsider their anti-Russian sanctions is closed, at least this winter. Only America can send them replacement liquid natural gas, and we can’t send half of what they need by LNG tanker. Way less than half.

So Europe is now SCREWED. Trapped like a cave diver who is a thousand feet from the cave exit, looking at his last air bottle's gauge, as the needle heads to zero. He's not going to make it, and he knows it.

Here is another analogy. A guy you don’t like much owns a golden goose. Every day it lays a golden egg, and you buy the gold egg on favorable terms. Every day, long term contract. You do massive jewelry business, whatever. The deal works for both of you.

Now, you get into a fight with the owner of the goose, mainly on behalf of one of your much richer friends who hates the goose guy even MORE than you hate him. You are pressured into not buying any of they guy’s golden eggs. Your rich friend assures you that soon the owner of the golden goose will come begging you to buy his golden eggs again, because his income has been cut off.

But it doesn’t work out the way your rich friend said. Turns out, Mr. Golden Goose can sell his golden eggs to other people. He’s not going broke. On the other hand, you, the big league jeweler, you ARE going broke without the gold. You are looking at closing your chain of jewelry outlets and laying everybody off. Bankrupt.

Now, is it logical, do you believe, that under any circumstance, the owner of the golden goose is going to break the neck of his golden goose and kill it, out of a fit of pique, BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO BUY HIS GOLDEN EGGS!?

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/damage-nord-stream-pipelines-unprecedented-may-have-been-sabotaged

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/15-things-we-know-about-mysterious-explosions-severely-damaged-nord-stream-1-and-2


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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1066 on: September 29, 2022, 05:31:22 AM »
so heritage  knows for sure Russia sabotaged their own pipeline when they simply could turn it off?

I don't trust ex cia political operative Brennan


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« Reply #1067 on: September 29, 2022, 06:20:31 AM »
so heritage  knows for sure Russia sabotaged their own pipeline when they simply could turn it off?

I don't trust ex cia political operative Brennan

Exactly!


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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1072 on: September 29, 2022, 08:23:36 AM »

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The US is being blamed in Germany and elsewhere
« Reply #1073 on: September 29, 2022, 09:03:06 PM »

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1074 on: September 30, 2022, 05:13:30 AM »
What is the name of the new gas pipeline from Norway to __________ (Denmark?)

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« Reply #1075 on: September 30, 2022, 07:44:37 AM »
What is the name of the new gas pipeline from Norway to __________ (Denmark?)

Baltic Pipe, Norway to Poland:

https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy-environment/news/baltic-pipe-gas-pipeline-opens-connects-norway-and-poland/
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/another-nord-stream-leak-detected-swedish-coastguard-says

This is a good article for facts.  The pipeline is inches thick of steel.  They don't break easily.
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so heritage  knows for sure Russia sabotaged their own pipeline when they simply could turn it off?

I don't trust ex cia political operative Brennan

Brennan is a contrary indicator but he is irrelevant.  Strange that Heritage posted that, without evidence.
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Strangest of all is Biden saying (implying?) the US would do it.  I doubt we did but that provides cover for whoever did.

One would suspect the anti-gas and oil 'environmentalists'.  Greta (and her people) did it?  BUT methane (unburnt natural gas) traps 100 times more heat than CO2:
https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/why-do-we-compare-methane-carbon-dioxide-over-100-year-timeframe-are-we-underrating
Environmentalists know their science and would do nothing to hurt the environment.  Oh, wait...

No one pro-Europe would do this.  Isn't the US pro-Europe?  Biden couldn't face his friends at the conferences ever again.


Makes no sense that Russia did it, Putin-Russia that is.  Gas through the pipeline is their cash register and funds the war effort.  Other elements in Russia, even within their military, might want to sabotage Putin's power.  If so, western intelligence might know and not tell.

Now it seems the subject got dropped unsolved. Our President is busy looking for Jackie.  Another case of a deplorable lack of curiosity!

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« Reply #1076 on: September 30, 2022, 07:51:40 AM »
What is the name of the new gas pipeline from Norway to __________ (Denmark?)

Baltic Pipe, Norway to Poland:

https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy-environment/news/baltic-pipe-gas-pipeline-opens-connects-norway-and-poland/
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/another-nord-stream-leak-detected-swedish-coastguard-says

This is a good article for facts.  The pipeline is inches thick of steel.  They don't break easily.
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so heritage  knows for sure Russia sabotaged their own pipeline when they simply could turn it off?

I don't trust ex cia political operative Brennan

Brennan is a contrary indicator but he is irrelevant.  Strange that Heritage posted that, without evidence.
----------------------

Strangest of all is Biden saying (implying?) the US would do it.  I doubt we did but that provides cover for whoever did.

One would suspect the anti-gas and oil 'environmentalists'.  Greta (and her people) did it?  BUT methane (unburnt natural gas) traps 100 times more heat than CO2:
https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/why-do-we-compare-methane-carbon-dioxide-over-100-year-timeframe-are-we-underrating
Environmentalists know their science and would do nothing to hurt the environment.  Oh, wait...

No one pro-Europe would do this.  Isn't the US pro-Europe?  Biden couldn't face his friends at the conferences ever again.


Makes no sense that Russia did it, Putin-Russia that is.  Gas through the pipeline is their cash register and funds the war effort.  Other elements in Russia, even within their military, might want to sabotage Putin's power.  If so, western intelligence might know and not tell.

Now it seems the subject got dropped unsolved. Our President is busy looking for Jackie.  Another case of a deplorable lack of curiosity!

This takes Russia's tool of tweaking europe into compliance off the table and bring in revenue off the table.

It prevents Germany from cutting a deal with Russia as General Winter kicks europe's ass.

Means, motive and opportunity put the US at the top of the suspect list.

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Yon on the NS Sabotage
« Reply #1077 on: September 30, 2022, 07:56:48 AM »
   

Self-incrimination by Biden and other members of US Regime

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All those statements by Biden and other USG are epic self-incrimination about intent to destroy Nord Stream 2. And now but NS1 and NS2 have been attacked. The Beast said clearly in clear words on video at least four times that the Beast would stop NS2.

Those pipeline attacks are likely the most serious single attacks in human history. Though few people seem to get it. Yet.

The Beast is now using this as casus belli to attack Russia.

Now watch Yamal, and Norwegian flows, etc.

This meme keeps hitting my box: More blood-hate born and fanned.

These attacks will contribute to massive famines that nobody reading this in 2022 has ever seen or read about. Nobody in human history will have witnessed something on such scale.

Meanwhile, Germany is clear-cutting green forests for burning fuel this winter. Vast swaths of forests are being felled. I saw this while crisscrossing Germany. Making matters worse, these are green, living trees. Gone. And when they go up German smokestacks, these trees will burn inefficiently with terrible amounts of pollution. Watch as the German and European air quality plummets into the Red like China or India.

Fertilizers, other chemicals — gone. Corn gone. Chickens gone.

Where will the deer and squirrels and birds live? They will be killed and eaten.

The Greens, Globalists, Progressives — are enemies of man, beast, and environment.

Please keep me in the field. The tipping point is now: https://www.givesendgo.com/keeputhefight

The blood hate thickens. This meme has gone viral




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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1078 on: September 30, 2022, 08:05:02 AM »
".Means, motive and opportunity put the US at the top of the suspect list."

which would easily explain Brennan running around pointing finger to Russia

I can't wait till his clearance gets yanked and he get off the stage by one of those curved canes

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VaudevilleHook

as a comedian he sucks though he tries to humor us with cynical lying.

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1079 on: September 30, 2022, 09:03:26 AM »
Why is an Israeli flag on the sub in MY's meme?

Seems like a dirty shot , , ,

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« Reply #1080 on: September 30, 2022, 09:40:52 AM »
Why is an Israeli flag on the sub in MY's meme?

Seems like a dirty shot , , ,

It’s a German meme.

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1081 on: September 30, 2022, 12:25:16 PM »
Ah.



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From Matt Bracken (Former SEAL)
« Reply #1083 on: October 01, 2022, 07:34:16 AM »
Matt Bracken:

The USN did it, 100%.

That part of the Baltic is practically like the Chesapeake Bay. It’s a transparent NATO aquarium. USN warships and helos spent all summer conducting underwater UUV / ROV drone “mine detection and demolition” drills. You have seen all the news stories.

If anybody else tried to explode 4 simultaneous pipeline bombs, in pairs, 20 KM apart, (NS1 and NS2), NATO and the USN would know ALL about it.

A medium-size fish cannot swim in and out of the Baltic (50' controlling depth) without being recorded on audio, video, hydro/pressure etc.

Russia has bare transit rights [during peacetime] from Kaliningrad and St. Pete, but that is it. Every Russian ship going in and out of the Baltic is virtually escorted front and rear. The Western Baltic is a small lake surrounded by NATO nations, plus NATO-cooperating Sweden and Finland.

The USN did it. Period.

I take no joy in saying that, as a long-ago frogman who locked in and out of submerged nuclear submarines, rode in mini-subs (SDVS), trained with every conceivable kind of underwater demolition, (too long to list), and dived with air bottles, mixed gas, and pure oxygen (for no bubbles). IOW, I know whereof I speak.

To believe otherwise than the USN did this is like believing the Russians snuck up the Thames River in a mini mystery sub to blow up 4 key British infrastructure sites, at the same time, and got away undetected.

(I will allow that the USN may have “sheep-dipped” some Poles in on the operation, to keep them quiet forever, but IMHO, it was a USN operation.)

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Nord Stream leaks set precedent
« Reply #1085 on: October 02, 2022, 12:13:19 PM »
The Nord Stream Leaks Set a Precedent for Russian Attacks on Europe's Energy Infrastructure
7 MIN READSep 29, 2022 | 21:48 GMT


Russia could further undermine Europe's energy security long after it cuts off gas supplies, if Moscow begins to more aggressively target the continent's maritime oil and gas industry. On Sept. 26, the Norwegian Petroleum Safety Administration warned of potential ''deliberate attacks'' after energy companies reported multiple cases of unidentified drones flying near offshore oil and gas installations. Just a few hours later, officials in Denmark warned they had found a gas leak along a section of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline off the coast of the Danish island of Bornholm. The following day, the Swedish Maritime Administration announced it also detected two gas leaks on the Nord Stream 1 pipeline in a nearby area. Russia is widely believed to be behind the recent attacks on the Nord Stream pipeline systems, which are both operated by the Russian gas giant Gazprom. But while the Kremlin has not yet shown an intent to target foriegn-owned infrastructure, the gas leaks nonetheless set a dangerous precedent by showing that Russia is capable of attacking oil and gas infrastructure in its near periphery.

On Sept. 28, Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Store said Norwegian military forces were being deployed to help protect offshore installations. With Russia no longer shipping large volumes of natural gas to Europe, Norway is expected to supply about a quarter of the European Union's natural gas this year.

Following a meeting with NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg, Danish Defense Minister Morten Bodkov warned that ''Russia has a significant military presence in the Baltic Sea region and we expect them to continue their saber-rattling.''

Speaking on behalf of EU member states, EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said on Sept. 28 that ''any deliberate disruption of European energy infrastructure is utterly unacceptable and will be met with a robust and united response.''

The U.S. CIA had reportedly warned the German government of possible attacks on Baltic Sea pipelines prior to the recent gas leaks on the Nord Stream pipelines.

A number of different factors — including the imposition of new sanctions — could drive Russia to adopt a more aggressive strategy to undermine Europe's energy security. In response to Western sanctions pressure, Iran has pursued an aggressive strategy of roiling global energy markets by covertly targeting regional oil and gas infrastructure. Russia could pursue a similarly aggressive strategy, as it shares many of the strategic drivers that have pushed Iran to adopt this approach — namely, the plausible deniability that covert attacks bring, a desire to impose a cost on rivals, interest in driving up energy prices in the short term to increase revenue, and using attacks as a way to gain leverage in negotiations. With its natural gas exports to Europe now nearing zero, Russia also appears to be exhausting its ''gas weapon,'' leaving attacks (or the threat of attacks) on oil and gas infrastructure as the primary way for the Kremlin to apply more pressure on European energy security, particularly for natural gas. In addition, the Russian government may assess that further provocative actions will have a negligible impact on its relationship with the European Union because it has already sunk to its lowest level. To this end, while Iran's attacks against tankers and Saudi oil and gas infrastructure in 2019 resulted in some additional sanctions on Tehran, the Western response was not decisive. This may lead Russia to assess the blowback risk in terms of military escalation and/or new sanctions is low because Western sanctions are already high and NATO countries have already demonstrated that they are seeking to avoid a NATO-Russia conflict. Finally, the Kremlin may even assess that occasional attacks against Europe's energy sector won't close the door to possible future peace negotiations with Ukraine to exit the war.

Should it adopt a more aggressive strategy against Europe's energy sector, Russia could physically attack more oil and gas infrastructure in the Baltic Sea, as well as potentially the Black Sea and North Sea. Russia would likely avoid any actions that could be construed as a physical attack on a NATO member's sovereign territory to avoid triggering a broader NATO-Russia conflict. But this does not necessarily extend to offshore oil and gas infrastructure (and other offshore critical infrastructure, such as submarine communications cables) outside the 12 nautical mile extent from the coast defined as territorial waters. Notably, the perpetrator behind the recent Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas leaks appeared to be extremely precise in terms of where it attacked the pipeline systems. The two attacks on Nord Stream 1 occurred in Denmark's exclusive economic zone but just before the pipeline entered Danish territorial waters, while Nord Stream 2 does not go through Denmark's territorial waters at all.

There is no indication that the drones the Norwegian authorities warned about were Russian. There have also not been any reports of Russian operations beyond the Baltic Sea, such as in the North Sea, which would be far more operationally difficult due to the greater geographic distance from Russia and the fact that it'd entail operating in deeper waters. Most critical oil and gas infrastructure in the North Sea also lies outside the territorial waters of the United Kingdom, Norway and the Netherlands.

The Nord Stream incidents occurred the same day that Poland and Norway were inaugurating the Baltic Pipe pipeline system, which carries natural gas from Norway to Poland, traverses through the Baltic Sea and goes through some international waters beyond the 12 nautical mile limit. Due to its proximity to Russia in the Baltic Sea and Poland's very pro-Ukrainian stance, the Baltic Pipe may be the piece of infrastructure that Russia is most likely to attack if it begins more aggressively targeting Europe's energy sector.

Beyond the Baltic, Black and potentially North Seas, Russia's ability to target offshore oil and gas infrastructure is limited. It could still target Europe's energy security through attacks against LNG tankers and other vessels, or LNG terminals (such as regasification lines going back to the mainland). But such attacks would carry a greater risk of triggering a greater military conflict, as LNG terminals are typically in national territorial waters. Any attacks on LNG vessels would also raise the possibility of casualties. While Russia has not demonstrated such a risk appetite outside of Ukraine, this could change amid further battlefield setbacks in Ukraine.

Beyond physical attacks, Russia's cyber capabilities — including its prolific use of data wipers that can paralyze computer systems by deleting data on hard drives — could also cause significant damage to Europe's energy sector. While it could seek to physically disrupt the European gas market with cyberattacks targeting pipeline operators and industrial control systems operating the pipelines, such acts carry a higher risk of escalation if they cause explosions or loss of life. Attacks on less sensitive aspects of the oil and gas industry (such as information technology systems instead of operational technology systems) are less likely to trigger a greater conflict with the West, but can still create social unrest and cause major financial market swings. Cyberattacks can also lead to occasional infrastructure shutdowns, as evidenced by the 2021 ransomware attack on the U.S. Colonial Pipeline company, which took its pipeline in the southeastern part of the United States offline for a week. Finally, Russia could leverage its well-known links with cyber criminals, hacktivists and other cyber threat actors to conduct attacks on its behalf. Russia's recent military mobilization campaign could even potentially bring in new cyber recruits to whom Moscow could offer roles to carry out the same types of cyberattacks they were previously doing as criminals instead of being deployed on Ukraine's front lines.

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Re: A different theory
« Reply #1088 on: October 03, 2022, 03:21:01 PM »

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1089 on: October 03, 2022, 03:46:17 PM »
silence about it

like leaker of the abortion decision

nada

almost like we are not supposed to know the truth....

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19th Century Winter, Dutch stockpile coal and wood
« Reply #1090 on: October 04, 2022, 07:04:33 AM »
Is this what we want?

Does anyone know clean natural gas is cleaner?

Europe has shale.  But not fracking.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/shocked-by-gas-bills-thrifty-dutch-stockpile-coal-wood-winter-2022-09-30/


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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #1093 on: October 05, 2022, 11:14:25 AM »
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Re: Energy Science, EVs in Florida
« Reply #1094 on: October 05, 2022, 11:50:49 AM »
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/10/exploding-electric-bicycles.php

I remember some military sci-fi books where grenades were electrical based explosives. Now we have them mounted on two wheels!

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SO MUCH LOSING, YOU'LL GET TIRED OF LOSING!
« Reply #1095 on: October 05, 2022, 12:23:23 PM »

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Re: SO MUCH LOSING, YOU'LL GET TIRED OF LOSING!
« Reply #1096 on: October 05, 2022, 01:51:19 PM »
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/401255.php

Yes.  Tired of losing.

Liberals (rightfully) made a big deal of the Khashoggi murder, one of their own.  But jumping from that to condemning everything Saudi and siding with Iran, world's number one state sponsor of terror, is biting the world in the ass right now.

Let's see, we cancelled US gas and oil, lost Russia's, and Venezuela, cancelled a pipeline from Canada, turned on Saudi and OPEC, and now the northern hemisphere settles in for winter.

F'ing idiots.