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Stanford Epidemiologist COVID Vaccination Matter of Personal not public health
« Reply #1350 on: October 11, 2021, 06:20:43 AM »
Stanford Epidemiologist Says COVID Vaccination Is Primarily a Matter of Personal Health, Not Public Health

https://fee.org/articles/stanford-epidemiologist-says-covid-vaccination-is-primarily-a-matter-of-personal-health-not-public-health/

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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1351 on: October 11, 2021, 09:01:48 AM »
Good to see this argument shift from anecdotal to statistical.

It's difficult to use statistics when they are being hidden by TPTB.

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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1352 on: October 11, 2021, 09:54:12 AM »
"the powers that be"

True.

Their screwing with data makes this and many other things nearly impossible to analyze, compare and debate.

George Floyd was a Covid death.

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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1353 on: October 11, 2021, 10:22:28 AM »
"the powers that be"

True.

Their screwing with data makes this and many other things nearly impossible to analyze, compare and debate.

George Floyd was a Covid death.

https://www.rintrah.nl/too-many-people-are-dying-and-its-starting-to-worry-the-demographers/


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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1354 on: October 12, 2021, 02:28:10 AM »
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Covid origin documentary
« Reply #1355 on: October 12, 2021, 10:01:47 AM »
1 hour documentary.  Set aside some time to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh2Sj_QpZOA


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Re: over 6 BILLION vaccine injections given worldwide
« Reply #1360 on: October 14, 2021, 10:41:45 AM »
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How Taiwan beats corona
« Reply #1366 on: October 15, 2021, 09:39:04 AM »
https://thediplomat.com/2021/07/why-taiwan-is-beating-covid-19-again/

surprise

it is not by refusing masks, vaccines, quarantine, and going to music festivals.


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Re: How Taiwan beats corona
« Reply #1367 on: October 15, 2021, 11:00:04 AM »
https://thediplomat.com/2021/07/why-taiwan-is-beating-covid-19-again/

surprise

it is not by refusing masks, vaccines, quarantine, and going to music festivals.

Did you read the above article?

Explain why the Amish didn't have massive die-offs despite refusing masks, the ClotShot (Which is mRNA therapy, NOT a vaccine) and home detention. No music festivals, but they still went to church and drank from the same communion cup.





https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/10/amish-covid-no-hospitalization-isolation-or-vaccines-herd-immunity/

Amish Covid: 'No hospitalization, isolation or vaccines = herd immunity'
DATED: OCTOBER 10, 2021 BY SHARYL ATTKISSON 36 COMMENTS


The following is a transcript of a report from "Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson." Watch the video by clicking the link at the end of the page.

When it comes to actions taken to address the Covid-19 threat, hindsight is still very much underway. For your consideration: a story and outcome you probably aren't hearing much about anywhere else. It takes place in the heart of Amish country.

Lancaster County, Pennsylvania: thousands of families lead lives largely separate from modern America.

The Amish are a Christian group that emphasizes the virtuous over the superficial. They don’t usually drive, use electricity, or have TVs. And during the Covid-19 outbreak, they became subjects in a massive social and medical experiment.

Sharyl: So, it's safe to say there was a whole different approach here in this community when coronavirus broke out than many other places?

Calvin Lapp: Absolutely.

Calvin Lapp is Amish Mennonite.

Lapp: There’s three things the Amish don't like. And that's government— they won't get involved in the government, they don't like the public education system— they won't send their children to education, and they also don't like the health system. They rip us off. Those are three things that we feel like we're fighting against all the time. Well, those three things are all part of what Covid is.

After a short shutdown last year, the Amish chose a unique path that led to Covid-19 tearing through at warp speed. It began with an important religious holiday in May.

Lapp: When they take communion, they dump their wine into a cup and they take turns to drink out of that cup. So, you go the whole way down the line, and everybody drinks out of that cup, if one person has coronavirus, the rest of church is going to get coronavirus. The first time they went back to church, everybody got coronavirus.

Lapp says they weren’t denying coronavirus, they were facing it head on.

Lapp: It’s a worse thing to quit working than dying. Working is more important than dying. But to shut down and say that we can't go to church, we can't get together with family, we can't see our old people in the hospital, we got to quit working? It's going completely against everything that we believe. You're changing our culture completely to try to act like they wanted us to act the last year, and we're not going to do it.

Steve Nolt is a scholar on Amish and Mennonite culture, and Mennonite himself. He’s studying Amish news publications to analyze community-wide trends.

Sharyl: So, are you saying, as of about May of 2020, things kind of went back to normal in the Amish community?

Steve Nolt: For the most part, yeah, by the middle of May, it's sort of like back to a typical behavior again.

That also meant avoiding hospitals.

Nolt: I know of some cases in which Amish people refused to go to the hospital, even when they were very sick because if they went there, they wouldn't be able to have visitors. And it was more important to be sick, even very sick at home and have the ability to have some people around you than to go to the hospital and be isolated.

Then, last March, remarkable news. The Lancaster County Amish were reported to be the first community to achieve “herd immunity,” meaning a large part of a population had been infected with Covid-19 and became immune.

Some outsiders are skeptical, and solid proof is hard to come by.

Nolt: Even those who believed that they had Covid tended not to get tested. Their approach tended to be, “I'm sick. I know I'm sick. I don't have to have someone else telling me I'm sick.” Or a concern that if they got a positive test, they would then be asked to really dramatically limit what they were doing in a way that might be uncomfortable for them. So, we don't have that testing number.

Lapp: We didn't want the numbers to go up, because then they would shut things more. What's the advantage of getting a test?

One thing’s clear: there's no evidence of any more deaths among the Amish than in places that shut down tight— some claim there were fewer here. That’s without masking, staying at home, or another important measure.

Sharyl: Did most of the community, at least the adults, get the Covid-19 vaccine?

Nolt: Again, we don't have data on that, but I think it's pretty clear that in percentage terms, relatively few did.

Lapp: Oh, we're glad all the English people got their Covid vaccines. That's great. Because now we don't have to wear a mask, we can do what we want. So good for you. Thank you. We appreciate it. Us? No, we're not getting vaccines. Of course not. We all got the Covid, so why would you get a vaccine?

By staying open, the Amish here have one tangible 2020 accomplishment few others can claim.

Lapp: We have this joke: when everybody else started walking, we started running. We made more money in the last year than we ever did. It was our best year ever.

Did the Amish really find a magic formula? They say yes. And they don’t care who doubts it.

Lapp: Yeah, all the Amish know we got herd immunity. Of course we got herd immunity! The whole church gets coronavirus. We know we got coronavirus. We think we’re smarter than everybody. We shouldn’t be bragging, but we think we did the right thing.

Sharyl (on-camera): Nolt, the scholar, is publishing a paper on the Amish social response to government mandates and Covid-19.

https://fullmeasure.news/news/shows/amish-covid
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100% effective!
« Reply #1369 on: October 15, 2021, 12:49:25 PM »

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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1370 on: October 15, 2021, 01:06:25 PM »
tylenol can kill
as can advil

too much water can also kill

tetanus booster can kill

etc
what is your point
if you don't want to get the shot
don't


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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1371 on: October 15, 2021, 01:17:05 PM »
tylenol can kill
as can advil

too much water can also kill

tetanus booster can kill

etc
what is your point
if you don't want to get the shot
don't

The problem is the leftist totalitarian government corporate fusion demands everyone does. There are potentially real, serious consequences to a mass alteration of the human genome from mRNA therapy.

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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1372 on: October 15, 2021, 01:42:07 PM »
I don't know what you mean

This is not crisper technology

it does not alter the human genome
it just generates an immune response

as does everything else new to our bodies


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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1373 on: October 15, 2021, 01:46:52 PM »
as for the the leftist totalitarian part I agree 100%

everything I do is taxed
everything is forced tribute to the Democrat Party

so . yes  on that point
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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1379 on: October 19, 2021, 12:31:33 PM »
Everyone has to complete this process for it to work

true

first would have been to get vaccinated

but it is more fun to refuse the vaccine for every reason imaginable
and then step back and say

SEE THEY DON'T WORK!

tell me how that is wrong

In the end once the cat is out of the bag with this kind of thing
little will be great

if Trump had stopped all international air travel at the outset

and began large quarantine program maybe

but then again we did not even have the testing to do that

and Trump ( I was too) was in denial mode

his response was mixed

but we can certainly blame Obama as well for not preparing for such a problem



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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1380 on: October 19, 2021, 12:38:44 PM »
If you are vaccinated for Polio, and I am not, does that mean you'll get Polio?


"but it is more fun to refuse the vaccine for every reason imaginable"

Like it's not a vaccine but mRNA therapy which hasn't been proven to be SAFE or EFFECTIVE. At least it's very profitable for Big Pharma, who can't be sued for ANY reason, no matter what the ClotShot does to you.



Everyone has to complete this process for it to work

true

first would have been to get vaccinated

but it is more fun to refuse the vaccine for every reason imaginable
and then step back and say

SEE THEY DON'T WORK!

tell me how that is wrong

In the end once the cat is out of the bag with this kind of thing
little will be great

if Trump had stopped all international air travel at the outset

and began large quarantine program maybe

but then again we did not even have the testing to do that

and Trump ( I was too) was in denial mode

his response was mixed

but we can certainly blame Obama as well for not preparing for such a problem

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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1381 on: October 19, 2021, 12:41:13 PM »
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/088/090/927/original/24860d8313327dff.jpeg





If you are vaccinated for Polio, and I am not, does that mean you'll get Polio?


"but it is more fun to refuse the vaccine for every reason imaginable"

Like it's not a vaccine but mRNA therapy which hasn't been proven to be SAFE or EFFECTIVE. At least it's very profitable for Big Pharma, who can't be sued for ANY reason, no matter what the ClotShot does to you.



Everyone has to complete this process for it to work

true

first would have been to get vaccinated

but it is more fun to refuse the vaccine for every reason imaginable
and then step back and say

SEE THEY DON'T WORK!

tell me how that is wrong

In the end once the cat is out of the bag with this kind of thing
little will be great

if Trump had stopped all international air travel at the outset

and began large quarantine program maybe

but then again we did not even have the testing to do that

and Trump ( I was too) was in denial mode

his response was mixed

but we can certainly blame Obama as well for not preparing for such a problem


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Absence of correlation?!?!?
« Reply #1383 on: October 19, 2021, 07:24:23 PM »
Posted by Michael Yon.

Doctor of , , , what?  Wouldn't a legit person bring that up?

Anyway, let's look for confirmation of this.  HUGE if true!

https://michaelyon.locals.com/upost/1192160/faux-vaccines-appear-at-best-to-be-worthless

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Re: Absence of correlation?!?!?
« Reply #1384 on: October 19, 2021, 08:58:51 PM »
Posted by Michael Yon.

Doctor of , , , what?  Wouldn't a legit person bring that up?

Anyway, let's look for confirmation of this.  HUGE if true!

https://michaelyon.locals.com/upost/1192160/faux-vaccines-appear-at-best-to-be-worthless

https://www.peakprosperity.com/about/


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Our professional journalists! Brought to you by Pfizer!
« Reply #1385 on: October 20, 2021, 04:10:27 AM »
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/brought-to-you-by-pfizer/comments

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/088/090/927/original/24860d8313327dff.jpeg





If you are vaccinated for Polio, and I am not, does that mean you'll get Polio?


"but it is more fun to refuse the vaccine for every reason imaginable"

Like it's not a vaccine but mRNA therapy which hasn't been proven to be SAFE or EFFECTIVE. At least it's very profitable for Big Pharma, who can't be sued for ANY reason, no matter what the ClotShot does to you.



Everyone has to complete this process for it to work

true

first would have been to get vaccinated

but it is more fun to refuse the vaccine for every reason imaginable
and then step back and say

SEE THEY DON'T WORK!

tell me how that is wrong

In the end once the cat is out of the bag with this kind of thing
little will be great

if Trump had stopped all international air travel at the outset

and began large quarantine program maybe

but then again we did not even have the testing to do that

and Trump ( I was too) was in denial mode

his response was mixed

but we can certainly blame Obama as well for not preparing for such a problem

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Risk of getting covid and dying from covid in vaccinated vs unvaccinateda
« Reply #1386 on: October 21, 2021, 05:33:26 AM »
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

I know it is our government so of course the data is rigged
by CDC people taking bribes from Pfizer.

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Reasons to avoid the ClotShot
« Reply #1387 on: October 21, 2021, 07:28:05 AM »

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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1388 on: October 21, 2021, 08:14:50 AM »
vaccine bad

says I.imgur.com

 :roll:

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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1389 on: October 21, 2021, 08:28:12 AM »
vaccine bad

says I.imgur.com

 :roll:

More credible than “Gain of function” Fauci, yes?

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Everything they tell you is a lie
« Reply #1393 on: October 21, 2021, 05:27:49 PM »

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Lucky for him, it was just a mild case!
« Reply #1394 on: October 21, 2021, 07:04:02 PM »

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Odd data
« Reply #1395 on: October 22, 2021, 05:23:28 AM »