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Putin with Tucker
« Reply #150 on: February 10, 2024, 09:15:00 AM »
 An extraordinary two hours

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson

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Counterpoint
« Reply #151 on: February 10, 2024, 04:22:48 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tucker-carlson-s-putin-interview-was-even-worse-than-expected/ar-BB1i41rF?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=a9a884ba64384bea9ee84f6e285dc9ef&ei=18

Several of these points seem sound, but somehow the $1+B (number from Victoria Nuland in front of Congress btw) that America put into the Uke elections goes unmentioned.

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George Friedman on Tucker-Putin
« Reply #152 on: February 13, 2024, 07:34:16 AM »


February 13, 2024
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Putin’s Perspective on the Russia-Ukraine War
By: George Friedman

Russian President Vladimir Putin did something unprecedented last week: He held a two-hour press conference directed at the American public. It was not exactly a press conference, in the sense that Tucker Carlson, a talk show host perceived as sympathetic toward Russia, was the only reporter present. But neither was it, strictly speaking, an interview, as for most of the program, Putin held forth without the benefit of questions. In a sense, this made it more valuable because it allowed Putin to set out his views in an interesting and important way that might not have been possible had Carlson asked questions that were focused on an American perspective.

Instead, we got a genuine Russian perspective on the war in Ukraine, and Putin appeared to be a reasonable and thoughtful man. He made some very dubious claims, but every leader makes dubious claims while appearing statesmanlike, and Putin’s behavior drove home to an American audience that his position is not without some merit. He also made clear that he is a Russian patriot working for Russian interests, and it is in this spirit that we should take his claims. He did not want to appear like Stalin. He also seemed enormously knowledgeable, far beyond most politicians, though he did have the advantage of knowing what was to be said as well as a translator who always stood between him and his audience. But I believe this was Putin, helped by prepackaged questions, providing a sense of his broad knowledge. If this worked, then he showed that Russia was ruled by a sophisticated thinker. However, given the interview’s length and complexity, the American public may have given up early and not listened to the complete interview.

Still, the historical context, the targeting of an American audience, and the extraordinarily detailed description of Russia and Russian history seem to be setting the stage for negotiations. In defense of Russia’s attack, Putin charged the U.S. and NATO with dishonesty and duplicity in facing Russia, which was simply pursuing its historical imperative. This was no ordinary program, nor was it self-indulgent rambling; Putin’s emphasis on the failure of negotiations in Turkey early in the war makes this clear.

Putin’s central presentation concerned Russian history. He explained how Russia was formed many centuries ago and contrasted this with Eastern Europe’s formation. In this way he argued that Ukraine had always been part of Russia, physically and linguistically. Unstated but implicit in his argument, Ukraine is Russia, and the invasion of Ukraine simply represents the Russian world’s return to an older reality. This is why, according to Putin, Russia’s actions in Ukraine constitute a special military operation and not an act of war. He also spoke of Poland, hinting that Poland and Lithuania are renegades whose roots are inseparable from Russia. The discussion of Russian history was lengthy, but it was not merely academic. Putin’s argument was that history binds a place to its surroundings and its inhabitants and, in this case, gives Russia the right to make claims on foreign territory. I admired the way he slipped in his claims to the region in a way that might be dismissed or overlooked. He did, however, lay the foundation for Russian claims in Poland.

Some of what Putin said was confusing. For example, he asserted that the current Ukrainian government and its predecessors were Nazis and therefore were an enemy of Russia. He cited two men who had become Nazi collaborators before concluding that this made Ukraine a remnant of Nazi Germany and therefore hostile to Russia and other countries that had fought Hitler. This left me confused, as there is no country that was occupied by the Germans that didn’t have collaborators, from France to the Netherlands and so on. Some may have been ideologically Nazis, but all were seeking to survive or prosper. Putin made this argument from the beginning, but if followed logically it would compel Russia to invade most of Europe as a moral obligation. Putin showed himself to be highly sophisticated, so he must understand what he is saying and depend on the world to not understand his claims or take them seriously.

In another part, while expressing his readiness to negotiate, Putin said the United States was damaging itself by using the dollar to compel foreign powers to align with its worldview. He then claimed, in his most baffling remarks, that China’s economy dwarves America’s and that its economic future is bright. It is as if he has missed China’s reality in the two years since Ukraine was attacked. He said this in the context of claiming that a new economic order is emerging, and for that to happen, China must drive it. It is interesting that Putin’s seriously deep analysis of things, even if parts are debatable, concluded with obviously wrong assertions, but he was at it for a long time and was probably tired.

One other thing that struck me was his remarks about Russia’s intercontinental hypersonic missiles. The speed and maneuverability of hypersonics make defense against an attack – in the U.S. or elsewhere – very difficult. I advocated the development of intercontinental hypersonics in my book “The Future of War.” The U.S. has not yet fielded a hypersonic missile, nor do I have any evidence that it is developing an intercontinental version. If Russia’s intercontinental hypersonic missile is as capable as Putin suggested, then that may have been the most significant thing he said.

The rest of Putin’s remarks consisted of complaints about NATO and the United States and his insistence that the uprising in Kyiv in 2014 was the real beginning of the war. He left unexplained how Russia could have ignored such a terrible threat for so long.

Putin is the president of a modern nation-state, so he must explain his policies to his people and try to influence other governments and foreign publics. The goal is not to be truthful but persuasive in order to put other governments under carefully shaped pressure. What can be said is that Russia has stepped fully into modernity with an excellent presentation of truth and myths while allowing Carlson a few rebuttals. Putin saw him as friendly but a wild card, so few cards were dealt to him.




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Re: Russian and Chinese Leaders (Putin, Xi, Oligarchs, etc) other countries too
« Reply #155 on: February 15, 2024, 09:58:59 AM »
"He sort of believed me, like 5%, 10%. That’s all you need. He never did it during my time. He didn’t do this during the last four years because he knew he couldn’t."

But does not this sound like he is telegraphing he was bluffing....

But for the most part I believe it.
That is why Xi probably would rather have Biden.

I was watching a C span recording from December few days ago when Ted Cruz and Mike Lee give FBI director Wray a giant grilling.
At one point earlier Richard Blumenthal said something about we know who Russia or China would rather have as President.  He did not say who but the hint I got was he meant Trump, as though this disparaged Trump.
I was thinking it is most certainly the opposite.  And not for a good reason for the US.


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VDH on the interview
« Reply #156 on: February 15, 2024, 03:35:44 PM »

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Friedman follow up on the interview
« Reply #157 on: February 16, 2024, 07:36:30 AM »
February 16, 2024
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Additional Thoughts on the Putin Interview
Thoughts in and around geopolitics.
By: George Friedman
On Tuesday, we published an article I wrote on Tucker Carlson’s interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin. I believe the interview revealed a great deal about Putin, his view of Russia’s role in European history and his justification for the invasion of Ukraine. A number of readers challenged me by saying I appeared to admire Putin or that I felt his actions were justified. The truth is that my judgment here is irrelevant; hating him or viewing him as evil would not enhance either my knowledge of him or that of the country he leads. It would be little more than self-gratification.

Even so, perhaps the occasion warrants more explanation. I normally deal only with nations, but sometimes when a powerful individual speaks – especially when that individual is hostile to my country or is someone with whom I disagree – I use a different process. The first step in defeating an enemy, whether in politics, business or any other arena, is to understand how they think. You must begin with the likely fact that they do not see themselves as evil or stupid, and no matter how you feel, you cannot allow your feelings to obscure that fact. You can use brute force to defeat an adversary, but if brute force is not a choice then subversion is possible. For that, you must understand and respect your enemy’s view of themselves. You must always place yourself in their head. Premature hatred or contempt will lead to failure.

This is true in wider conflicts too. The Vietnam War, for example, began with precious little understanding of the Viet Cong. Many in the U.S. wrote them off as evil. Vietnamese revolutionary leader Ho Chi Minh spoke publicly about what the war would look like, but we dismissed it as a lie. Our intellectual shallowness and our inability to understand what drove them cost 50,000 U.S. lives.

Putin said that NATO started the war and forced Russia to act. In the interview, he claimed that Poland and the Baltic states are, because of their shared history, ultimately part of Russia. This is untrue, of course; Putin is a politician, and politicians lie. But lies can reveal the truth when properly analyzed. And for that reason alone there is utility in watching interviews like this.

Thanks to all who read the article and those who wrote comments.

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RIP Alexei Navalny (Did Putin have him killed?)
« Reply #158 on: February 18, 2024, 07:49:56 AM »
See 4 minute documentary at the link:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/16/russian-activist-and-putin-critic-alexei-navalny-dies-in-prison


[Doug] Putin wants what's best for Russia (?) and he wants to stay in power the rest of his life.  Assuming those two things don't overlap perfectly, which one does he want more?  Obviously to stay in power at all costs.

Putin is an autocrat in a system that is not supposed to be autocratic.  He holds phony elections He stepped down temporarily for term limits?  Ended term limits?  Kills his opponents.  Rigs the results.  Steal from his country.  A Madura with a larger arsenal.

Besides condemning that there, what are we going to do when that happens here?

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Medvedev
« Reply #160 on: February 19, 2024, 08:40:54 PM »
""Attempts to restore Russia's 1991 borders will lead only to one thing - a global war with Western countries with the use of our entire strategic (nuclear) arsenal against Kyiv, Berlin, London, and Washington. And against all other beautiful historic places that have long been included in the flight targets of our nuclear triad," Medvedev said"  a day ago in news reports.

Remember this :

"hot mic" moment in 2012, when Obama told Russian President Dmitry Medvedev "after my election I have more flexibility.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/nov/14/obamas-hot-mic-moment-russian-president-2012-was-u/

Perhaps this Medvedev nuc talk is a response to recent Trump's "boast" that he could bomb Moscow......

This is reminding me of how I felt after watching The Day After movie -> pits in my stomach.  Statements like these from either side is very disconcerting.  I don't recall anyone saying this even in the earlier Cold War.  Something about Nikita Krushev telling how he would "bury us" but not mentioning using nucs.

These are not the best of times,,,,,

We need strong leaders but also cool heads.  I dunno,,,,,

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Re: Russian and Chinese Leaders (Putin, Xi, Oligarchs, etc) other countries too
« Reply #162 on: February 23, 2024, 11:04:52 AM »
May I ask that you post that in the Russia-Europe thread as well?

The implications of Russia taking Odessa are huge.

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Putin’s Behavioral Profile
« Reply #163 on: February 28, 2024, 12:49:12 PM »
I am falling down a rabbit hole with the Behavior Panel; these guys reveal A LOT, with one piece being what low regard they have for the MSM (which I haven’t heard them say, but they sure drop a ton of tips. Turns out one gent, Chase Hughes, is not only a behavior analyst for US spooks, he has also prepared a profile of Putin, available here:

https://www.chasehughes.com/_files/ugd/8e0d92_7ae47c5d6039424d90c7be36fe88bafb.pdf?index=true

It’s a one pager, but certainly contains its share of tidbits.

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FO: Rumors of Xi's stroke
« Reply #164 on: July 19, 2024, 08:28:05 AM »


(5) RUMORS OF XI’S STROKE HIGHLIGHT LOOMING SUCCESSION CRISIS: Jennifer Zeng, a defected former Chinese Communist Party (CCP) State Council Researcher, reports that people close to Chinese President Xi Jinping and the State Council are saying Xi had a stroke during China’s Third Plenary Session.

Xi had a cerebral aneurysm at the end of 2021 that he reportedly had treated with “Traditional Chinese Medicine.” These aneurysms can potentially rupture and cause a hemorrhagic stroke.

Xi, like Mao, has no clear successor.

The Third Plenary Session of the Chinese Communist Party Congress is reserved for deciding and announcing the Party’s future plans. This particular Third Plenary has been repeatedly delayed and is, so far, untelevised.

Why It Matters: Xi faces a fair amount of pushback from his party’s Maoists because he is a market reformer, similar to Deng Xiaoping. When Mao died, he was immediately succeeded by Hua Guofeng, but Deng Xiaoping usurped authority within two years, causing a contested government for most of Hua’s reign. If Xi dies or cannot continue governing, there is likely to be a succession crisis as reform and Maoist factions within the CCP vie for power. A succession crisis could delay or reverse some of China’s gains in the Asia Pacific. It would likely embolden China’s regional adversaries like Japan or the Philippines to seize and cement their own gains. – J.V.

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Marxism and the Xi-Putin link
« Reply #165 on: August 01, 2024, 05:50:10 PM »
Marxism and the Xi-Putin Link
To Xi Jinping, a Russian victory over Ukraine would vindicate the Marxist theory of history.
By Leon Aron
July 31, 2024 5:33 pm ET


China is Russia’s lifeline. It supplies almost all key imports for the Russian war machine: microelectronics for missiles, tanks and aircraft; machine tools for ammunition production; and nitrocellulose, a critical explosive ingredient for artillery shells. A Group of Seven communiqué in June identified Chinese support as indispensable to Russian military aims, and leaders at last month’s North Atlantic Treaty Organization summit in Washington labeled China the “decisive enabler” of Russia’s war against Ukraine.

Western nations must put to rest the pipe dream of enlisting Xi Jinping’s China to restrain Vladimir Putin’s Russia. Mr. Xi won’t seek to end the Ukraine war with “one phone call,” as Finnish President Alexander Stubb has suggested. That’s because Mr. Xi’s motive for supporting Mr. Putin’s war is bound up with passionate ideological conviction. Namely, Mr. Xi is a fervent Marxist.

No Chinese Communist Party general secretary since Mao has pledged allegiance to Marxist doctrine with such ardor. For Mr. Xi, China’s “rejuvenation,” the legitimizing leitmotif of his rule, has been inseparable from rekindling devotion to Marx’s teachings. Less than two months into his tenure as general secretary, Mr. Xi enjoined the party’s Central Committee to “keep up with the living soul of Marxism.” Communism, he said, is the party’s “highest ideal and its ultimate goal.” Mr. Xi has since called Marx the “greatest thinker in human history” and declared that his teachings retain their “vigor and vitality” and remain the party’s “guiding theory.”

To celebrate Marx’s 200th birthday in 2018, Mr. Xi gave an address titled “Marx’s Theory Still Shines With Truth.” The Marxist theory of history of which Mr. Xi spoke, known as historical materialism, postulates the inexorable development of society’s “forces of production.” The changed “economic base” scraps the old “superstructure”—politics, culture, values—and replaces it with a new system befitting economic progress. The overthrow of capitalism and the onset of communism are inevitable consequences of this process.

Some comrades, Mr. Xi said at the start of his rule, may regard communism as “beyond reach,” even “illusory,” but that’s due to their “infirm” appreciation of historical materialism. He asserted that reality has repeatedly proved Marx and Friedrich Engels’s analysis of the basic contradictions of capitalist society is true. That “capitalism is bound to die out and socialism is bound to triumph,” he said, is “the irreversible general trend of social and historical development.”

Historical materialism is key to what Mr. Xi has extolled as Marxism’s “practical character,” with which the party “arms itself.” The Marxist theory of history, he has emphasized, quoting Lenin, who was quoting Engels, “is not a rigid dogma” but rather a “guide to action.”

China did take action. “Hide your strength and bide your time,” Deng Xiaoping, another devoted Marxist and the father of post-Mao economic reform, decreed in the 1980s. China’s gross domestic product was then less than $350 billion. By the time Mr. Xi assumed power in late 2012, China’s GDP had grown more than 24-fold, to $8.53 trillion. By last year, that figure had in turn more than doubled, to $18 trillion.

Having unleashed the “forces of production,” Mr. Xi proclaimed in his 2018 address on Marx’s birthday, the party had achieved in a brief window a degree of economic success that it took the West centuries to reach. Apparently, the time had come to adjust Deng-designed “superstructure.” In growing “prosperous,” Mr. Xi said, China was “becoming strong”—strong enough, he explained separately, to be “willing and able to contribute more to mankind.”

Here, too, Marx pointed the way. Philosophers “only interpret” the world, but “the point is to change it,” Marx famously wrote. It follows that Mr. Xi has emphasized Marx’s “unremitting fight to overturn the old world and establish a new one.” The new world order, Mr. Xi has vowed, “cannot be just dominated by capitalism and the West, and the time will come for a change.” It’s telling that Fidel Castro once hailed Mr. Xi as “one of the strongest and most capable revolutionary leaders” he had ever met.

The prospect of revolutionary change is all the more alluring because of what Mr. Xi has described as “once in a century” and “profound” changes sweeping the world. Explaining Mr. Xi’s address before the 2017 Party Congress, the People’s Daily, the Central Committee’s official newspaper, argued that Western dominance of international relations has become “hard to sustain,” as have the “Western values” intrinsic to international relations.

Enter Mr. Putin’s war. Beyond obvious geopolitical gains, a Russian victory would offer a powerful vindication of the Marxist theory of history. A demoralized and degraded West would be Exhibit A of the decay of “bourgeois democracies,” validating what the Central Committee has called the party’s place on the “right side of history and the side of human progress.”

Mr. Xi’s inspirations—Lenin, Stalin, Mao—all forged or expanded communist regimes during or following wars. Stalin’s 1939 pact with Hitler also offers an uncanny parallel to Mr. Xi’s support for Mr. Putin: a communist state aiding a fascist state in its war on the capitalist West.

Driven by what the People’s Daily has called a “powerful sense of mission,” the faithful Marxist in Beijing, who holds a doctorate in Marxist theory, will stand by Russia in pursuit of a victory that his dogma foretells.

Mr. Aron is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and author of “Riding the Tiger: Vladimir Putin’s Russia and the Uses of War.”


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Walter Russell Mead on Bibi
« Reply #167 on: August 27, 2024, 09:12:02 AM »

Netanyahu’s Place in History
Win, lose or draw, Israel’s leader will leave deep footprints in the sands of time.
Walter Russell Mead
By Walter Russell Mead
Aug. 26, 2024 5:24 pm ET

Almost a year into Israel’s most challenging conflict since the 1948-49 War of Independence, one thing is increasingly clear about its embattled prime minister. Love him or loathe him, Benjamin Netanyahu is a historic leader who has imposed his will on the great events of his time.

To call Mr. Netanyahu a great leader is neither to predict his ultimate success nor to endorse everything he does. It certainly isn’t to call him infallible. But we can’t understand the course of the current conflict in the Middle East without giving Bibi his due. He is a political genius who towers above his critics and rivals. Despite his political vulnerabilities at home and the limits on Israeli power internationally, he has kept the threads of power in his hands far longer and to much greater effect than almost anyone expected after Oct. 7.

Consider his liabilities. He leads a deeply divided coalition in a deeply polarized country. Criminal cases against him are grinding through the courts. Thousands of Israelis regularly turn out in the streets to demand he step down. The Israeli military establishment is in open revolt, and the intelligence establishment despises him. Israel’s Supreme Court considers him a threat to constitutional order.

The Gaza war began with Hamas exposing the Jewish state’s catastrophic strategic and tactical failures. It will take years to assign precise responsibility for the host of intelligence, political and military errors that left so many Israelis vulnerable to the terrorists’ barbarity, but the key failures occurred on Bibi’s watch.

Meanwhile the ugly realities of an unexpectedly difficult war have tested his leadership. Believing that Israel’s security requires the military annihilation of Hamas, Bibi finds himself committed to a long war that is explosively unpopular internationally, even as his refusal to place the return of the hostages ahead of military victory has mobilized domestic opposition. The military realities in Gaza and the political realities inside his coalition consistently require him to take actions that embarrass and anger the Biden administration, whose support is critical to Israel’s war effort.

Mr. Netanyahu is the bête noire of the international intelligentsia and the favorite whipping boy of the global press. As the most sweeping orgy of antisemitism in generations swirls around the world, Israel’s enemies use it to mobilize opposition to Bibi’s policies, while many Jews blame his policies for triggering the hate.

The entire world, the Israeli military, political and intellectual establishments, the Biden administration—not to mention Bibi’s enemies on the field and in the palaces of the Middle East—have tried to break his hold on power or at least force him to change direction.

They’ve all failed. Bibi remains at the helm. Despite the heart-rending tragedy of the hostages and their families, he has resisted the call to allow Hamas to profit from rape, kidnapping and torture by paying an extortionate price for their release. Time and again he has outmaneuvered the Biden administration, refusing to let a muddled and confused American Mideast policy control Israel’s agenda in an existential war.

For now, the tide seems to have turned in Bibi’s favor. A recent Maariv poll gives him a small lead over his chief rival, Benny Gantz. Hamas is fighting for its life with diminishing resources in the ruins of Gaza. The alignment of the conservative Arab states with Israel against Iran is holding. Hezbollah and Iran seem deterred by Israeli military power.

The Jewish state’s survival remains a work in progress. The conflict with Iran and its growing network of regional proxies remains unresolved. Relations with the U.S. under a Harris administration would likely be difficult. Domestically, the deep rifts between religious and secular Israelis, European and Middle Eastern Jews, and Jewish and Arab Israelis remain. The human costs of the Gaza war will add new depths to the bitterness of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Yet one thing seems clear. Win, lose or draw, Bibi Netanyahu is leaving deep footprints in the sands of time. Unlike most of the mediocrities who hold office in countries around the world, he won’t be quickly forgotten. He will occupy an outsize place not only in the history of Israel and the modern Middle East, but in the history of the Jewish people.

Great leaders don’t always succeed. Winston Churchill’s lifelong goal was to preserve the British Empire. In this and in much else, he failed. But Churchill saw one thing clear. “We are all worms,” he said. “But I do believe that I am a glow-worm.”

Only a handful of leaders can credibly claim to glow. As the Gaza war nears its first anniversary, Bibi Netanyahu has found a place among them.


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Re: Russian and Chinese Leaders (Putin, Xi, Oligarchs, etc) other countries too
« Reply #169 on: November 19, 2024, 05:21:41 AM »
Another defenestration. :-o

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Re: Russian and Chinese Leaders (Putin, Xi, Oligarchs, etc) other countries too
« Reply #170 on: November 19, 2024, 07:22:13 AM »
Another defenestration. :-o

Strange how few Putin supporters in Russia fall out of windows 60 feet to their death.

This will be quite and exhaustive investigation.  Oh wait, are they already done with it?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1982153326?psc=1&language=en_US

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Russian murders disguised as accidents suicide etc.
« Reply #171 on: November 19, 2024, 07:30:04 AM »
another common way Russian leaders dispose of people they don't like is to have them die in an auto accident.

Either a crash or they get run over.

Stalin did this a lot. 

Accidents do happen in Russia.