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DougMacG

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #251 on: January 06, 2020, 10:13:45 AM »
I need a citation on what % of Planned Parenthood's budget goes to abortion.

Not easy to determine.  They include abortion under "Medical services", the largest one of the 63% of the budget.  The main part of "Non-medical program services" (18%) is the promotion of abortion.

I don't think you will be able to separate abortion from the rest of what they do; it is a big part of all of it.  They are the nation's largest provider of "abortion services".  They gave up federal funding rather than giving up abortion when given the choice.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/facts-figures

2015 (the latest year data is available):

Medical services (63%)

The essential health care services Planned Parenthood provides, like: STD testing and treatment, birth control, well-woman exams, cancer screening and prevention, abortion, hormone therapy, infertility services, and general health care.

Non-medical program services (18%) ...

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Common Sense Abortion Control
« Reply #252 on: January 26, 2020, 10:32:06 PM »

DougMacG

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Re: Common Sense Abortion Control
« Reply #253 on: January 27, 2020, 06:16:49 AM »
Besides the intended analogy, the proposals are perfectly valid.

The correct analogy (IMO) of guns to abortion would to legalize the shooting of immediate family for any reason, not just the owning of the gun for self protection.

My mom believed in the mother's right to choose until the child reaches age 18.  It's a more informed and thought through decision than aborting before birth.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #254 on: January 27, 2020, 02:35:46 PM »
Awesome meme!


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CA judge orders vid-journalists to pay PP $13.6M
« Reply #256 on: December 26, 2020, 08:55:38 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/24/california-judge-orders-video-journalists-to-pay-13-6-m-to-planned-parenthood/ 

I find the successful prosecution of this case incomprehensible.  In legal terms, what the hell happened?

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whistle blowers
« Reply #257 on: December 26, 2020, 09:05:10 AM »
are only sacred "patriots"
if they work for the Democrat party

I hope they can appeal

here is the abortion judge :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Orrick_III

guess who appointed him
of course


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Re: NRO: Overturn Roe
« Reply #261 on: May 19, 2021, 10:02:56 AM »
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/05/overturn-roe/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NR%20Daily%20Monday%20through%20Friday%202021-05-18&utm_term=NRDaily-Smart

Heartbeat 18 days from conception.  Can feel pain, same.  Either it's a life or it's denial of science.

States can regulate when an animal can be killed but not an unborn human?  Which article says that?

Tennessee law bans abortions after 15 weeks except “in a medical emergency or in case of a severe fetal abnormality.”  Seems like a generous compromise, pro-choice the first 15 weeks.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #263 on: May 24, 2021, 08:25:15 AM »
"All the same, a post-Roe world is apt to be less congenial to the GOP that craves it, and not nearly as challenging to the Democratic Party that doesn’t."

This seems like obvious conclusion

Pew research
survey
( I don't trust most surveys anymore but)

https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

DougMacG

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #264 on: May 24, 2021, 07:48:12 PM »
Conservatives have known all along, it is not for political gain that you end the right of liberals to slaughter their young.

On the other side of it, if the world was suddenly ruled by personal responsibility, who would  that favor?

From the article:  "...the issue of abortion is not about politics but about right and wrong."

That is the heart of it, no pun intended.

The Kentucky law allows abortions up to 15 weeks, meaning a woman(?) has been carrying a different person's beating heart in her for over 3 months.  Sounds like a pro-choice law to me, if a woman really does have control over her own body.

The Left is afraid of incrementalism or slippery slope.  If they lose this one, they fear losing more and more.  They ought to know; they wrote the book on rights eroded by incrementalism.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #265 on: May 25, 2021, 01:58:22 AM »
Roe v Wade is not about whether abortion should be legal or illegal.  It is about whether states have a right to determine that.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #266 on: May 25, 2021, 04:54:07 AM »
Exactly so.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #267 on: May 25, 2021, 04:55:51 AM »
just saying

this won't likely be popular overall

and may hurt Republicans more the crats


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #268 on: May 25, 2021, 07:02:55 AM »
Good point.  Middle East peace and widespread American prosperity weren't very issues for us either, with such bad messaging.  The point, I think, with abortion is to work on the right or wrong question ahead of the legal question.  You don't make illegal or murder what half the people think is fine.

Imagine the sides reversed on abortion.  The most innocent are the victims, Black babies killed at 5 times the rate of white babies and R's favor and fund it, support it as the be-all, end-all, and had a history in wanting to stop all these unwanted black births on racial grounds.  What would be the politics of it then?

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