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are republicans going to outlaw birth control?
« Reply #353 on: May 11, 2022, 11:15:26 AM »
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republicans-supreme-court-contraception_n_627ab11fe4b046ad0d829a0a

Oh God.

here we go..

Like Doug said he hopes they don't "overplay their hand"

of course the zealots will......

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Re: are republicans going to outlaw birth control?
« Reply #354 on: May 11, 2022, 01:48:12 PM »
No.

Huffpohysteria.

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republicans-supreme-court-contraception_n_627ab11fe4b046ad0d829a0a

Oh God.

here we go..

Like Doug said he hopes they don't "overplay their hand"

of course the zealots will......

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How did they know?
« Reply #355 on: May 13, 2022, 08:36:04 PM »

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Re: How did they know?
« Reply #356 on: May 13, 2022, 10:21:07 PM »
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too extreme
« Reply #357 on: May 15, 2022, 01:06:32 PM »

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Re: too extreme
« Reply #358 on: May 15, 2022, 01:48:20 PM »
How are we doing with the Mules and Dominion Voting machines?


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rape-victims-forced-rapist-baby-190834342.html

with this we lose the suburban moms yet again


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Oklahoma definition of life
« Reply #360 on: May 19, 2022, 02:56:02 PM »
I wonder if even the morning after pill is not going to be allowed

"What is ella?

****ella is an emergency contraceptive. It works by stopping or delaying the release of an egg from an ovary. Ulipristal may also make it harder for a fertilized egg to attach to the uterus.

ella is used to prevent pregnancy after having sex without using a condom or other effective birth control method. It is also used to prevent pregnancy after a regular form of birth control has failed. This medicine is not to be used as a regular form of daily, weekly, or monthly birth control.****

I can tell you now this will piss a LOT of women off

and some men too


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #361 on: May 19, 2022, 08:16:51 PM »
Seriously stupid.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #362 on: May 19, 2022, 08:26:58 PM »
Seriously stupid.

Are values supposed to matter, or is it all about political gamesmenship?


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #363 on: May 19, 2022, 08:42:17 PM »
Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.

Politics is the Art of the Possible and this standard will gravely damage our shot at the landslide election that we need.

Why on earth do they need to say this now?  Hard to think of something more likely to drive Dem turnout, not only in OK, but also nationwide.

I respect the Life begins at conception POV, but as a matter of putting the fifty years of culture war over this to bed, I'm thinking a twelve-week standard is something that could work.


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #364 on: May 19, 2022, 08:50:42 PM »
Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.

Politics is the Art of the Possible and this standard will gravely damage our shot at the landslide election that we need.

Why on earth do they need to say this now?  Hard to think of something more likely to drive Dem turnout, not only in OK, but also nationwide.

I respect the Life begins at conception POV, but as a matter of putting the fifty years of culture war over this to bed, I'm thinking a twelve-week standard is something that could work.

OK politicians are doing what the large majority of OK voters want.

Just like in California, the population is fine with stabbing a full term baby in the brain with a pair of scissors, so the law will reflect that there.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #365 on: May 20, 2022, 02:44:35 AM »
I get that and fair enough-- but wish they would have waited until after the elections.  This is going to drive Dem turnout out across the fifty states.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #366 on: May 20, 2022, 05:42:31 AM »
"I respect the Life begins at conception POV, but as a matter of putting the fifty years of culture war over this to bed, I'm thinking a twelve-week standard is something that could work"

I have thought about abortion for 40+ yrs
and could never come to any personal conclusion until recently

I agree with the above  after considering the moral ethical medical monetary practical and political concerns

I think this is what Justice Roberts was hoping to get as a compromise

this is not late term murder - sucking the brain out of a fetus' soft skull.


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #367 on: May 20, 2022, 05:52:31 AM »
Most Okies are pro life

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-oklahoma-abortion-ban-a-tipping-point-in-the-fight-against-roe-v-wade

but not clear to me if they mean from conception if asked specifically

like the girl, Artz 23 yo who grew up strict Catholic and was anti abortion then went to college felt out of place (and likely started fucking around) and then became pro choice.

I just remember in the 80's when some Republicans would say "this abortion thing is killing us".

we shall see

inflation problems may trump abortion , for now........ for '22......


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #368 on: May 20, 2022, 07:30:04 AM »
Most Okies are pro life

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-oklahoma-abortion-ban-a-tipping-point-in-the-fight-against-roe-v-wade

but not clear to me if they mean from conception if asked specifically

like the girl, Artz 23 yo who grew up strict Catholic and was anti abortion then went to college felt out of place (and likely started fucking around) and then became pro choice.

I just remember in the 80's when some Republicans would say "this abortion thing is killing us".

we shall see

inflation problems may trump abortion , for now........ for '22......

What does the science say? It's a life once the egg is fertilized.

A society that doesn't respect human life is headed down a dark path we have seen many times in history.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #369 on: May 20, 2022, 07:32:54 AM »
Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.

Politics is the Art of the Possible and this standard will gravely damage our shot at the landslide election that we need.

Why on earth do they need to say this now?  Hard to think of something more likely to drive Dem turnout, not only in OK, but also nationwide.

I respect the Life begins at conception POV, but as a matter of putting the fifty years of culture war over this to bed, I'm thinking a twelve-week standard is something that could work.

A landslide of failure theater RINOs? Is abortion going to motivate the vote mules and dominion machines?

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #370 on: May 20, 2022, 07:57:44 AM »
".A landslide of failure theater RINOs? Is abortion going to motivate the vote mules and dominion machines?"

no they are already motivated to make extra cash

it is the suburban

and college girls who may now be more motivated to turn out in droves

maybe ....

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #371 on: May 20, 2022, 08:05:43 AM »
The next pandemic will force more voting by mail, funny enough the dems will not be crushed...


".A landslide of failure theater RINOs? Is abortion going to motivate the vote mules and dominion machines?"

no they are already motivated to make extra cash

it is the suburban

and college girls who may now be more motivated to turn out in droves

maybe ....




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Re: Abortion
« Reply #375 on: June 15, 2022, 03:21:13 PM »
Perhaps well-armed Lifers will , , ,

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Roe overturned
« Reply #376 on: June 24, 2022, 07:54:27 AM »

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #377 on: June 24, 2022, 08:11:38 AM »
"Time to release the violent leftist paramilitaries!"

perhaps there is one silver lining in all this

this might get rid of 1/6/21
off the news now the LEFT has something else they can scream about.......

pro choice centers better secure the hatches and arm up....

will be an interesting summer watching unattractive young people protest.....
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Re: Roe overturned
« Reply #378 on: June 24, 2022, 12:33:29 PM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-roe-v-wade-asdf-right-abortion

Time to release the violent leftist paramilitaries!

Elections have consequences!

If you are not impressed with today's ruling, you are probably not a black baby fetus on death row.

One hell of a lot of election work and victories over an extended period went into this small step toward restoring the meaning of the constitution.

Roe v Wade has
been aborted in the 198th trimester.

https://babylonbee.com/news/roe-v-wade-aborted-in-198th-trimester?utm_source=The+Babylon+Bee+Newsletter&utm_campaign=db0c7319f8-Sponsored_Newsletter_6%2F24%2F22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_62f636e998-db0c7319f8-39963636&mc_cid=db0c7319f8
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Justice Roberts
« Reply #379 on: June 24, 2022, 01:21:08 PM »
I am glad about the ruling, and

I know it is blasphemy here  on this board, but personally I think the Roberts compromise was  reasonable.

I never minded  being an outlier

FWIW

we better not overplay our hand with contraception
now

that is nuts!

sorry I am not on board with that.

addendum

I am not on board with going back on gay marriage

I have accepted it
we need gays on our side
not alienate all of them.

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Re: Justice Roberts
« Reply #380 on: June 24, 2022, 06:41:49 PM »
(ccp) "We better not overplay our hand with contraception
that is nuts!"

  - Yes. Just a left wing invented straw man - until some activist gives it credibility.

There ARE unenumerated rights.  Killing your young wasn't one of them.


(ccp) "I am not on board with going back on gay marriage".
   - Agree.  That ship sailed.

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Re: Roe overturned
« Reply #382 on: June 24, 2022, 08:35:27 PM »
If you are impressed with this ruling, you don't understand that this is just a re-sorting of the deck chairs on the Titanic.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-roe-v-wade-asdf-right-abortion

Time to release the violent leftist paramilitaries!

Elections have consequences!

If you are not impressed with today's ruling, you are probably not a black baby fetus on death row.

One hell of a lot of election work and victories over an extended period went into this small step toward restoring the meaning of the constitution.

Roe v Wade has
been aborted in the 198th trimester.

https://babylonbee.com/news/roe-v-wade-aborted-in-198th-trimester?utm_source=The+Babylon+Bee+Newsletter&utm_campaign=db0c7319f8-Sponsored_Newsletter_6%2F24%2F22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_62f636e998-db0c7319f8-39963636&mc_cid=db0c7319f8

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Re: Roe overturned
« Reply #383 on: June 24, 2022, 09:00:11 PM »
https://media.gab.com/system/preview_cards/images/027/317/134/original/496ad3de2e58c972.jpeg



If you are impressed with this ruling, you don't understand that this is just a re-sorting of the deck chairs on the Titanic.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-roe-v-wade-asdf-right-abortion

Time to release the violent leftist paramilitaries!

Elections have consequences!

If you are not impressed with today's ruling, you are probably not a black baby fetus on death row.

One hell of a lot of election work and victories over an extended period went into this small step toward restoring the meaning of the constitution.

Roe v Wade has
been aborted in the 198th trimester.

https://babylonbee.com/news/roe-v-wade-aborted-in-198th-trimester?utm_source=The+Babylon+Bee+Newsletter&utm_campaign=db0c7319f8-Sponsored_Newsletter_6%2F24%2F22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_62f636e998-db0c7319f8-39963636&mc_cid=db0c7319f8

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #384 on: June 25, 2022, 07:47:04 AM »
(ccp) "We better not overplay our hand with contraception
that is nuts!"

  - Yes. Just a left wing invented straw man - until some activist gives it credibility.

There ARE unenumerated rights.  Killing your young wasn't one of them.


(ccp) "I am not on board with going back on gay marriage".
   - Agree.  That ship sailed.


Is it true that Justice Thomas said we should revisit this ?

If he did he just awake the entire LEFT to total mass media blitz of this till the election and after

Sorry, I love Justice Thomas as much as anyone here , but of all the dumb shit things.....


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #385 on: June 25, 2022, 07:48:23 AM »
Yes, we should cower before the left.


(ccp) "We better not overplay our hand with contraception
that is nuts!"

  - Yes. Just a left wing invented straw man - until some activist gives it credibility.

There ARE unenumerated rights.  Killing your young wasn't one of them.


(ccp) "I am not on board with going back on gay marriage".
   - Agree.  That ship sailed.


Is it true that Justice Thomas said we should revisit this ?

If he did he just awake the entire LEFT to total mass media blitz of this till the election and after

Sorry, I love Justice Thomas as much as anyone here , but of all the dumb shit things.....

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #386 on: June 25, 2022, 09:18:43 AM »
ccp,  I do not believe Justice Thomas said that. I am open to being proven wrong on that. I'm traveling now but I read the entire draft opinion. There are words in there specifically saying this does not apply to other issues. This is about abortion and the jurisdiction of the Court versus the states and the legislatures.

To regulate preconception is an issue with a woman and her body. Abortion has a recognized competing interest involved. Big difference.
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #387 on: June 25, 2022, 09:23:02 AM »
then he needs to come out and say "I did not say that and am not thinking that"

why remain silent if not true?




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AMcC: Roe was never law
« Reply #388 on: June 25, 2022, 12:09:28 PM »
https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/06/roe-was-never-law/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NR%20Daily%20Saturday%20New%202022-06-25&utm_term=NRDaily-Smart

Roe Was Never Law

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June 25, 2022 6:30 AM
A controversial subject that should never have been wrested from the people in the states has now been returned to them.
There is no mincing words: The Supreme Court’s historic Dobbs ruling made Friday a great day for life.

A great day for the restoration of American constitutional law, too. And a great day for democracy in our republic. It marks a high moment for the United States Supreme Court, which has been tested as never before. It stood firm and yet restrained, acknowledging that the great public-policy decisions in our society are to be made by free, self-determining people, not unelected judges.

Barack Obama, perhaps the nation’s most solipsistic politician and ideologue, took only moments after the issuance of Justice Samuel Alito’s majority opinion to wail that the Supreme Court had relegated the most “intensely personal decision someone can make to the whims of politicians and ideologues.” If you’re keeping score, yes, this would be the same Barack Obama whose signature presidential “achievement” was radically expanded government control over the health sector, leaving more and more intensely personal decisions — decisions about actual health care, as opposed to the taking of unborn life under the guise of health care — at the whim of partisan Democrats and progressive bureaucrats.

The main point here, though, is not hypocrisy. It is hard-edged politics. The former president went directly to politics because, for abortion crusaders, there has never been anything else.

In Roe, seven willful politicians in robes usurped the power of the putatively sovereign states to regulate abortion. Unless a constitutional right was at stake, the federal judiciary had no business intruding on the internal governance of the states, particularly over matters of health and safety that are the traditional domain of the states. But the Constitution does not speak to abortion.

Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s Dobbs concurrence reminds us of Justice Antonin Scalia’s bracing but inarguable point in Casey: the “States may, if they wish, permit abortion on demand, but the Constitution does not require them to do so.” Permit it on demand, forbid it entirely, or implement some regulatory regime between those two polar opposites. It is simply not a constitutional question. Ergo, a judicial edict on it, Roe, has always been a usurpation of authority under the guise of law, not an authoritative explication of the law.

You would know that if you had perused the briefs and weighed the argument in Dobbs. Or, indeed, if you have followed a half century of the house of cards that has been abortion jurisprudence. As Justice Alito recounts in Dobbs, the eminent liberal legal scholar John Hart Ely memorably described the salient feature of the Roe excrescence when it first appeared: The decision is not merely “bad constitutional law”; rather “it is not constitutional law and gives no sense of an obligation to try to be.”

It was never law at all. The very able lawyers who have defended Roe over the decades have eschewed arguments rooted in the Constitution. Roe has been defended as precedent: The decision commanded deference because it happened, not because it was compelling — or even coherent. It could never be justified on its own terms as linear, logical, legitimately rooted law.

Progressives have thus made a talisman of stare decisis, the doctrine of respect for precedent. They would have you believe, at least when it’s a precedent they like, that stare decisis is Latin for “don’t you dare touch this settled law.” Like the rest of the Roe bag of tricks, that’s laughable as a legal argument — we’ve all noticed that Dred Scott, Plessy v. Ferguson, Korematsu, and other precedents in the Court’s lowlight reel were reversed by the Court. More to the point, though, stare decisis has never been a mandate to uphold precedent; it is a multipart test to assess which precedents should be retained.

It’s a test that Roe was particularly ill-suited to survive.

We haven’t been under Roe for, now, 30 years. The ruling was so unstable and indefensible that, in Casey (1992), a reluctant, razor-thin majority of the Court could save it only by gutting its rickety foundation while maintaining its bottom-line holding — again, in the manner of “because I say so” diktat, not legal reasoning.

And what did Casey replace Roe with? A newfangled “undue burden” test — essentially asking: Does a regulation so burden resort to the abortion “right” as to render it illusory? Notice, however, that it is the nature of such a test to invite regulation and therefore to invite constant streams of challenges.

If we could keep abortion out of it for a moment, then, and think of this as a straight, legal stare decisis question, you had a ruling that was so galactically wrong that it had to be completely overhauled in less than 20 years. A ruling that was so unstable that it was subject to constant regulatory and legal challenge, and thus could not reasonably be relied on. And that’s just the legal landscape, before you ever get to the court of public opinion — the cultural and political arena in which Roe/Casey was never broadly accepted and was always the target of passionate dissent by much of the country.

Roe was not law and could never be defended as such. It has thus been defended by extortion, by the mob. It still is: The Court’s opinion was not even published before the “Night of Rage” planning was under way. The Left tried to prevent the ruling from issuing by an unprecedented leak of a draft opinion, patently intended to intimidate the justices — just as the Left destroyed the judicial-confirmation process over abortion with the intent of intimidating justices. In the weeks since the leak, we have had illegal protests against which a leftist administration has refused to enforce the laws (Roe having corrupted the Justice Department the same way it corrupted the law), and finally the attempted murder of Justice Kavanaugh — an utterly predictable event incited (to borrow the Left’s promiscuous use of that word) by the likes of the Senate’s Democratic Party leader.

Thanks to the courage of the justices, the intimidation campaign not only did not work, it was counterproductive. Dobbs did not hit on Friday like a bolt from the blue. It was issued almost two months after a leak that has enabled constitutional conservatives to make inroads with the public, to edify Americans who might otherwise have fallen for the Left’s shock-and-awe demagogy that, no, the Alito opinion would not actually outlaw abortion; and, no, it would not criminalize women who seek to avail themselves of the sordid procedure.

The fringe promised rage in the darkness, but the country rises this morning to find that the sky has not fallen. All that has happened is that a controversial subject that should never have been wrested from the people in the states has now been returned to them. After a long half-century, the people have been re-empowered to decide for themselves how abortion should be regulated — no longer dictated to by barbaric extremists who refuse to concede any limitation on the right to end a baby’s life, up to the moment of delivery.

Fidelity to the law has finally driven the extortionists out of the courts. Now we’ll see how their radical politics fares in the political arena. Life won big on Friday. But far from a final victory, it is more like a new beginning: the joining of the battle in the place where it should always have been fought.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #389 on: June 26, 2022, 03:08:14 PM »
Now that we have had the end of the beginning, now we begin the beginning of the end game

https://www.nrlc.org/wp-content/uploads/NRLC-Post-Roe-Model-Abortion-Law-FINAL-1.pdf

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NRO: Portnoy and the Bro-Choice Crisis
« Reply #394 on: June 30, 2022, 05:12:40 PM »
Dave Portnoy and the ‘Bro-Choice’ Crisis

Barstool Sports founder Dave Portnoy at SiriusXM Studios in New York City in 2017. (Slaven Vlasic/Getty Images)
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June 30, 2022 6:30 AM

For decades, women have been duped into devaluing the price of their intimacy. Now selfish men are getting their comeuppance.

Last week, Dave Portnoy, founder of the Barstool Sports blog, released an “emergency press conference” on Twitter in response to the Dobbs decision overturning Roe v. Wade. He lamented that without guaranteed abortion access, the country is “going backwards.” He said he sees no other choice but “to vote for a moron like Biden because the Right is gonna put Supreme Court people in who are just ruining this country, taking basic rights away.”

I’ll leave it to one of my colleagues to settle the question whether Portnoy represents the “future of the conservative movement” (as has been suggested). What’s of more immediate interest is that the overturning of Roe could facilitate something of a crisis for the bro-choice movement.

Portnoy’s strong feelings about abortion are representative of men who pursue commitment-free sex and are thus beneficiaries of Roe. And some women seem to share these feelings. The other day, Vice President Kamala Harris said on CNN, “If you are a parent of sons, do think about what this means for the life of your son and what that will mean in terms of the choices he will have.”

Yes, do think. It’s long overdue.

The first time Portnoy appeared on my radar was in relation to his unfortunate MeToo episode. After Business Insider published a story in which women he’d slept with accused the blogger of becoming violent during sex, choking them, and filming them without permission, Portnoy posted a video on Twitter offering his side of the story. He denies any violence and says that everything that happened was “100 percent consensual.”

After examining the evidence, the nicest thing I have to say about Portnoy is that he isn’t a rapist.

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That, of course, is a very low bar to clear. But Portnoy’s indignation went beyond countering accusations of criminality. It was clear he didn’t think he’d done anything wrong. He complained he was being “painted as a sexual deviant.” The word “deviant” simply means “departing from the usual or accepted standards.” It would be far better for everyone, including Dave Portnoy, if the behavior he so shamelessly recounted was considered deviant.

Matthew Walther, in describing the rise of Portnoyism and why it’s such a popular kind of politics, points to some of the causes it embraces, such as “the rights of male undergraduates to engage in fornication while intoxicated without fear of the Title IX mafia.” The Title IX mafia are indeed a menace, trampling on the due-process rights that everyone — including actual criminals — is entitled to. However, defending due-process rights ought not to be conflated with moral approval of particular behaviors. Men are not entitled to sex without “fear” of consequences. And not least because all sex has consequences — if not physical, then emotional and spiritual. Selfishness ought to be shameful.

The truth is that fear of unwanted responsibilities and social pressure are far more effective deterrents to sexual misbehavior than any kangaroo court or campaign of personal or political vindictiveness. The reason is that, per Kamala Harris, it requires thinking — the anticipation of mutual responsibility.


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Consider the alternative we’ve lived with since the sexual revolution. In his posthumous Netflix special, Nothing Special, Norm Macdonald said ironically: “I remember telling the fellas in high school, ‘Guys, I think we’re making a big mistake by shaming the sluts. You see, here’s what is my concern. I feel if we shame them too much, they might stop becoming sluts.’”

Shame acted as a safeguard against behaviors that are both individually and socially destructive. This applied to both sexes. In addition to “slut-shaming,” there was also cad-shaming. Before the sexual revolution, the minimum offer required by society for a man to secure sex with a woman outside of wedlock was commitment. When sex resulted in pregnancy, society expected him to rise to the occasion and marry her. Her family would demand it — hence the term “shotgun wedding.” A man who failed to meet this expectation would be considered unmanly and immoral.

For decades, women have been duped into devaluing the price of their intimacy. Once, the default was to deny sex until a woman’s long-term interests had been guaranteed; then the default became to go along with it, bearing the full weight of the associated risks and responsibilities. Unsurprisingly, that has suited many men just fine. Now some women are reconsidering. Insider reports that, in response to the overturning of Roe, “some in Gen Z [are] reevaluating their relationship to sex, intimacy, and hookup culture.” Good.

We were told that a sexual ethic reliant on easily accessible contraception and abortion as a backstop would liberate women. What it’s done instead is liberate several generations of Portnoys. Now, the bro-choice movement is getting its comeuppance.



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No Dem Bounce from Roe Repeal: Voters continue to disapprove of Biden
« Reply #397 on: July 02, 2022, 05:40:06 AM »
No Dem Bounce from Roe Repeal: Emerson Poll
Voters continue to disapprove of Biden and favor Republicans.
https://spectator.org/no-dem-bounce-from-roe-repeal-emerson-poll/
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #398 on: July 02, 2022, 06:07:41 AM »
For 58% of U.S. women who had induced abortions in 2019, it was the first time they had ever had one, according to the CDC. For nearly a quarter (24%), it was their second abortion. For 11% of women, it was their third, and for 8% it was their fourth or higher.
Think… Somewhere between 80 thousand and 100 thousand abortions in 2019 were had by women, for whom it was their 4th (or higher) abortion… Really think about it.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #399 on: July 02, 2022, 07:18:02 AM »
Nobody needs a high capacity abortion!

For 58% of U.S. women who had induced abortions in 2019, it was the first time they had ever had one, according to the CDC. For nearly a quarter (24%), it was their second abortion. For 11% of women, it was their third, and for 8% it was their fourth or higher.
Think… Somewhere between 80 thousand and 100 thousand abortions in 2019 were had by women, for whom it was their 4th (or higher) abortion… Really think about it.