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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2200 on: August 22, 2022, 05:23:33 AM »
as ALWAYS:

in the favor of the DNC !   :x

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election fraud traces right back to Obama
« Reply #2201 on: August 22, 2022, 11:11:35 AM »
"by the book" Brock :

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/22/barack-obama-hosting-marthas-vineyard-fundraiser-eric-holders-army-election-workers/

nothing to see here
all legal

all legit

we need PIs on all these people to really record what they are doing
if only I was billionaire  :evil:

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MI Sec.ofState fights getting dead people's names off voter rolls
« Reply #2202 on: August 26, 2022, 06:32:25 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/25/court-rejects-democrat-officials-attempt-keep-26k-dead-people-michigan-voter-rolls/

this will not be reported by MSM

that is 26 K less votes in November for the D side !
but that is as Dems will say not the reason they do not want to update voter rolls
nothing to see here folks
just some shysters claiming some legal BS argument that it is too soon to do or some other weasel explanation


from Dems and MSM and big tech :
election cheating and corruption is EXCEEDINGLY RARE
and anything that points to the contrary is just part of ***THE BIG LIE!!!***

a phrase
added to EVERY single mention of voter fraud by Republicans


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Last minute change in PA voter registration form
« Reply #2203 on: August 27, 2022, 03:36:38 AM »
Pennsylvania Abruptly Changes Voter Registration Form, Combines With Mail-In Ballot Application
By Beth Brelje August 26, 2022 Updated: August 26, 2022biggersmaller Print

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In the middle of the election cycle, the Pennsylvania Department of State has suddenly changed its voter registration application form to include a mail-in ballot application.

The applications used to be on separate forms, but this seemingly small clerical change is creating logistical headaches for county election directors and causing voter confusion.

Registering to vote and seeking a mail-in ballot are two different actions requiring different responses in the county election offices.

“We use the voter registration application for one thing, we use a mail-in ballot application for something different,” Christa Miller, Lancaster County’s election director, told The Epoch Times. “One has to be done before the other. Obviously, you have to be a voter in order to get a detailed ballot, so that has to be processed first. And then your mail-in ballot application can be processed. We also file them all completely different.”

All voter registration applications are filed together, and mail-in ballot applications are filed separately. That is because, as per state law, county election offices must mail an application each year to everyone who asked to be on the permanent mail-in ballot list.

“In February, we have to send them an application for that calendar year,” Miller said. Then the voter must send it back, confirming they want to participate in mail-in voting for the year. The office files the mail-in applications alphabetically.

Procedure Changed in Middle of Election Cycle
Between the May primary and the November general election, the county elections office fields a lot of calls from voters who want to verify they checked the mail-in ballot box or to check the address where the ballot will be sent.

Instead of going though something like 400,000 voter registration forms, it’s easier to go through 30,000 specific mail-in ballot forms.

The Department of State combined the documents and implemented the new form on Aug. 19, which was 13 weeks after the primary and just 11 weeks before the general election.

Now the county is processing the first half of the form—getting a person registered to vote—and then making a copy of the form to process the mail-in ballot portion and file that copy separately.

Voters have questions about the new form, too, Miller said. They are not sure if they are registering to vote or registering for mail-in voting, so it has taken some education.

“As election officials, we asked [the state] to wait until December. This is going to take voter education and explaining how the new form works,” Miller said. “There’s a big election coming up in November. I think everybody in Pennsylvania knows that. And all we wanted to do was wait until December to let us keep our offices going the way that they’re going. Not having to teach our staff new ways of doing things, and voters new ways of doing things. You know, keep things the same at least through November.”

Jonathan Marks, deputy secretary at the Pennsylvania Department of State, told The Philadelphia Inquirer the goal of the change is to simplify the process, so voters don’t have to fill out two forms.

The Epoch Times asked the Department of State why it didn’t wait until after the election cycle to change the form. The department did not respond by press time.

In addition to combining the voter registration and mail-in ballot applications, the state also changed the gender identification options on the forms.

Voters may now choose male, female, or nonbinary/other.

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Pa abruptly changes voter form
« Reply #2204 on: August 27, 2022, 09:47:39 AM »
In addition to combining the voter registration and mail-in ballot applications, the state also changed the gender identification options on the forms.

Voters may now choose male, female, or nonbinary/other.


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America was a better place before the FBI rigged elections
« Reply #2205 on: August 28, 2022, 07:54:09 AM »
FBI,  held back the Hunter laptop investigation,
planted the disinformation story,  worked with fascist social media to block dissemination of the story and failed to monitor and investigate election fraud.

https://pjmedia.com/columns/stephen-kruiser/2022/08/26/the-morning-briefing-america-was-a-better-place-when-the-fbi-didnt-rig-elections-n1624217

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Re: America was a better place before the FBI rigged elections
« Reply #2206 on: August 28, 2022, 07:58:33 AM »
Who was in charge of the DOJ when the election fraud wasn't being investigated/prosecuted?


FBI,  held back the Hunter laptop investigation,
planted the disinformation story,  worked with fascist social media to block dissemination of the story and failed to monitor and investigate election fraud.

https://pjmedia.com/columns/stephen-kruiser/2022/08/26/the-morning-briefing-america-was-a-better-place-when-the-fbi-didnt-rig-elections-n1624217

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Re: America was a better place before the FBI rigged elections
« Reply #2207 on: August 28, 2022, 09:16:19 AM »
Who was in charge of the DOJ when the election fraud wasn't being investigated/prosecuted?

Bill Barr at DOJ (or did he resign?) and same Christopher Wray at FBI.   I might phrase it differently,  who did not take charge of the DOJ and FBI when the election fraud wasn't being investigated/prosecuted?

The lack of investigation after inauguration counts too. A non-partisan agency would be intensely interested in the charges made and getting to the bottom of it.

Instead what we see is a deplorable lack of curiosity.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2208 on: August 28, 2022, 09:51:27 AM »
The lack of investigation after inauguration counts too. A non-partisan agency would be intensely interested in the charges made and getting to the bottom of it.

Instead what we see is a deplorable lack of curiosity.


from what I can tell is Barr's interest/investigation consisted of calling up Governors for their opinions

response of course , was nothing to see here .  NO PROOF

and then Barr would publicly reiterate NO evidence of election fraud

claims to the contrary are BS

Everything we saw that pointed to fraud and "shyterism"  was just a mirage , a delusion , or worse a hallucination of imbecile MAGA heads who are so naive to believe Trump's LIES!

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2209 on: August 28, 2022, 11:24:46 AM »
 ... "and then Barr would publicly reiterate NO evidence of election fraud"


Reminds me, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Regarding "The Big Lie" and outlets like AP calling it in a news story, "...Trump's lie that the election was stolen.

Does anyone know anyone who really knows?  (No.)  Dinesh D'Souza and the people behind 2000 mules gave a glimpse of how it could have happened, but did anyone investigate further?  Dems, media and RINOs say it didn't happen, the election was not stolen, but they didn't look into it either.

We can see a hundred or a thousand data points showing something unexplainable happened. We can see that rules were changed especially in key areas loosening up ballots and the methods.  Of course there was fraud there already were arrests - on both sides.  Why doesn't anyone (other than the perps and the beneficiaries) want to know? 

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Trump wants redo
« Reply #2210 on: August 30, 2022, 02:38:41 AM »
Obviously, a non-starter , , , but does it serve to make a certain point?

Trump Wants Redo of 2020 Election ‘Immediately’ Over New FBI Revelations
By Jack Phillips August 29, 2022

Former President Donald Trump said the 2020 election needs to be redone following recent disclosures about how the FBI influenced reporting about Hunter Biden’s laptop.

“So now it comes out, conclusively, that the FBI buried the Hunter Biden laptop story before the election knowing that, if they didn’t, ‘Trump would have easily won the 2020 Presidential Election,'” Trump wrote on his social media platform Truth Social on Aug. 29.

“This is massive fraud & Election interference at a level never seen before in our Country. REMEDY: Declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal solution, declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new Election, immediately!” Trump also wrote.

A poll conducted last week that found nearly 80 percent of Americans who were surveyed said that “truthful” coverage of the laptop story would have changed the outcome of the 2020 election.

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg also told podcast host Joe Rogan that FBI officials communicated with Facebook staff ahead of the election and the social media giant moved to restrict the reach of reporting about Hunter Biden’s laptop. Last week, meanwhile, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) revealed an FBI whistleblower told his office that the bureau slow-walked its investigation into the younger Biden’s laptop.

Just weeks before the 2020 general election, the New York Post published a bombshell report detailing messages regarding alleged business dealings between Hunter Biden and foreign companies, including a firm that has ties with the Chinese Communist Party. A former associate, Tony Bobulinski, told news outlets days later that emails and other messages sourced from the laptop were authentic, including one email referencing “10 held by H for the big guy” when describing percent equity allocations of a project with CEFC, a Chinese firm.

Bobulinski, a business partner of Hunter Biden, told outlets on the record that President Joe Biden was “the big guy.” Those emails and other details from the laptop were included in a presidential debate between Trump and Biden in late 2020.

But after the article was published on Twitter, the social media firm locked the New York Post out of its account for more than two weeks and blocked the article from being shared.

Months later, in March 2021, then-Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey told a congressional panel that blocking the NY Post’s article was a “total mistake” and described it as a “process error.”

“It was literally just a process error. This was not against them in any particular way,” Dorsey told the House Energy and Commerce Committee at the time. He didn’t say who made the decision to block the NY Post’s story.

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Re: Trump wants redo
« Reply #2211 on: August 30, 2022, 08:00:08 AM »
Notice how the left reacts. It's never with confidence that the 2020 election was fair and everything should be audited because then they will be vindicated.


Obviously, a non-starter , , , but does it serve to make a certain point?

Trump Wants Redo of 2020 Election ‘Immediately’ Over New FBI Revelations
By Jack Phillips August 29, 2022

Former President Donald Trump said the 2020 election needs to be redone following recent disclosures about how the FBI influenced reporting about Hunter Biden’s laptop.

“So now it comes out, conclusively, that the FBI buried the Hunter Biden laptop story before the election knowing that, if they didn’t, ‘Trump would have easily won the 2020 Presidential Election,'” Trump wrote on his social media platform Truth Social on Aug. 29.

“This is massive fraud & Election interference at a level never seen before in our Country. REMEDY: Declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal solution, declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new Election, immediately!” Trump also wrote.

A poll conducted last week that found nearly 80 percent of Americans who were surveyed said that “truthful” coverage of the laptop story would have changed the outcome of the 2020 election.

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg also told podcast host Joe Rogan that FBI officials communicated with Facebook staff ahead of the election and the social media giant moved to restrict the reach of reporting about Hunter Biden’s laptop. Last week, meanwhile, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) revealed an FBI whistleblower told his office that the bureau slow-walked its investigation into the younger Biden’s laptop.

Just weeks before the 2020 general election, the New York Post published a bombshell report detailing messages regarding alleged business dealings between Hunter Biden and foreign companies, including a firm that has ties with the Chinese Communist Party. A former associate, Tony Bobulinski, told news outlets days later that emails and other messages sourced from the laptop were authentic, including one email referencing “10 held by H for the big guy” when describing percent equity allocations of a project with CEFC, a Chinese firm.

Bobulinski, a business partner of Hunter Biden, told outlets on the record that President Joe Biden was “the big guy.” Those emails and other details from the laptop were included in a presidential debate between Trump and Biden in late 2020.

But after the article was published on Twitter, the social media firm locked the New York Post out of its account for more than two weeks and blocked the article from being shared.

Months later, in March 2021, then-Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey told a congressional panel that blocking the NY Post’s article was a “total mistake” and described it as a “process error.”

“It was literally just a process error. This was not against them in any particular way,” Dorsey told the House Energy and Commerce Committee at the time. He didn’t say who made the decision to block the NY Post’s story.

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Time: The Secret History of the 2020 Election
« Reply #2212 on: August 31, 2022, 11:44:09 AM »
This has been posted before, but here I have improved the formatting:
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https://archive.is/CRSYG



The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election
Molly Ball @mollyesque Feb. 4, 2021    

Illustration by Ryan Olbrysh for TIME
The secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the election

A weird thing happened right after the Nov. 3 election: nothing.

The nation was braced for chaos. Liberal groups had vowed to take to the streets, planning hundreds of protests across the country. Right-wing militias were girding for battle. In a poll before Election Day, 75% of Americans voiced concern about violence.

Instead, an eerie quiet descended. As President Trump refused to concede, the response was not mass action but crickets. When media organizations called the race for Joe Biden on Nov. 7, jubilation broke out instead, as people thronged cities across the U.S. to celebrate the democratic process that resulted in Trump’s ouster.

A second odd thing happened amid Trump’s attempts to reverse the result: corporate America turned on him. Hundreds of major business leaders, many of whom had backed Trump’s candidacy and supported his policies, called on him to concede. To the President, something felt amiss. “It was all very, very strange,” Trump said on Dec. 2. “Within days after the election, we witnessed an orchestrated effort to anoint the winner, even while many key states were still being counted.”

In a way, Trump was right.

There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day. Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargain–inspired by the summer’s massive, sometimes destructive racial-justice protests–in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy.

The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted. For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions as they came under simultaneous attack from a remorseless pandemic and an autocratically inclined President. Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors. The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all, a failure of the central act of democratic self-governance that has been a hallmark of America since its founding.

Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. They executed national public-awareness campaigns that helped Americans understand how the vote count would unfold over days or weeks, preventing Trump’s conspiracy theories and false claims of victory from getting more traction. After Election Day, they monitored every pressure point to ensure that Trump could not overturn the result. “The untold story of the election is the thousands of people of both parties who accomplished the triumph of American democracy at its very foundation,” says Norm Eisen, a prominent lawyer and former Obama Administration official who recruited Republicans and Democrats to the board of the Voter Protection Program.

For Trump and his allies were running their own campaign to spoil the election. The President spent months insisting that mail ballots were a Democratic plot and the election would be “rigged.” His henchmen at the state level sought to block their use, while his lawyers brought dozens of spurious suits to make it more difficult to vote–an intensification of the GOP’s legacy of suppressive tactics. Before the election, Trump plotted to block a legitimate vote count. And he spent the months following Nov. 3 trying to steal the election he’d lost–with lawsuits and conspiracy theories, pressure on state and local officials, and finally summoning his army of supporters to the Jan. 6 rally that ended in deadly violence at the Capitol.
The democracy campaigners watched with alarm. “Every week, we felt like we were in a struggle to try to pull off this election without the country going through a real dangerous moment of unraveling,” says former GOP Representative Zach Wamp, a Trump supporter who helped coordinate a bipartisan election-protection council. “We can look back and say this thing went pretty well, but it was not at all clear in September and October that that was going to be the case.”

This is the inside story of the conspiracy to save the 2020 election, based on access to the group’s inner workings, never-before-seen documents and interviews with dozens of those involved from across the political spectrum. It is the story of an unprecedented, creative and determined campaign whose success also reveals how close the nation came to disaster. “Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated,” says Ian Bassin, co-founder of Protect Democracy, a nonpartisan rule-of-law advocacy group. “But it’s massively important for the country to understand that it didn’t happen accidentally. The system didn’t work magically. Democracy is not self-executing.”

That’s why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it. And they believe the public needs to understand the system’s fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures.

THE ARCHITECT

Sometime in the fall of 2019, Mike Podhorzer became convinced the election was headed for disaster–and determined to protect it.

This was not his usual purview. For nearly a quarter-century, Podhorzer, senior adviser to the president of the AFL-CIO, the nation’s largest union federation, has marshaled the latest tactics and data to help its favored candidates win elections. Unassuming and professorial, he isn’t the sort of hair-gelled “political strategist” who shows up on cable news. Among Democratic insiders, he’s known as the wizard behind some of the biggest advances in political technology in recent decades. A group of liberal strategists he brought together in the early 2000s led to the creation of the Analyst Institute, a secretive firm that applies scientific methods to political campaigns. He was also involved in the founding of Catalist, the flagship progressive data company.

The endless chatter in Washington about “political strategy,” Podhorzer believes, has little to do with how change really gets made. “My basic take on politics is that it’s all pretty obvious if you don’t overthink it or swallow the prevailing frameworks whole,” he once wrote. “After that, just relentlessly identify your assumptions and challenge them.” Podhorzer applies that approach to everything: when he coached his now adult son’s Little League team in the D.C. suburbs, he trained the boys not to swing at most pitches–a tactic that infuriated both their and their opponents’ parents, but won the team a series of championships.

Trump’s election in 2016–credited in part to his unusual strength among the sort of blue collar white voters who once dominated the AFL-CIO–prompted Podhorzer to question his assumptions about voter behavior. He began circulating weekly number-crunching memos to a small circle of allies and hosting strategy sessions in D.C. But when he began to worry about the election itself, he didn’t want to seem paranoid. It was only after months of research that he introduced his concerns in his newsletter in October 2019. The usual tools of data, analytics and polling would not be sufficient in a situation where the President himself was trying to disrupt the election, he wrote. “Most of our planning takes us through Election Day,” he noted. “But, we are not prepared for the two most likely outcomes”–Trump losing and refusing to concede, and Trump winning the Electoral College (despite losing the popular vote) by corrupting the voting process in key states. “We desperately need to systematically ‘red-team’ this election so that we can anticipate and plan for the worst we know will be coming our way.”

It turned out Podhorzer wasn’t the only one thinking in these terms. He began to hear from others eager to join forces. The Fight Back Table, a coalition of “resistance” organizations, had begun scenario-planning around the potential for a contested election, gathering liberal activists at the local and national level into what they called the Democracy Defense Coalition. Voting-rights and civil rights organizations were raising alarms. A group of former elected officials was researching emergency powers they feared Trump might exploit. Protect Democracy was assembling a bipartisan election-crisis task force. “It turned out that once you said it out loud, people agreed,” Podhorzer says, “and it started building momentum.”

He spent months pondering scenarios and talking to experts. It wasn’t hard to find liberals who saw Trump as a dangerous dictator, but Podhorzer was careful to steer clear of hysteria. What he wanted to know was not how American democracy was dying but how it might be kept alive. The chief difference between the U.S. and countries that lost their grip on democracy, he concluded, was that America’s decentralized election system couldn’t be rigged in one fell swoop. That presented an opportunity to shore it up.

THE ALLIANCE

On March 3, Podhorzer drafted a three-page confidential memo titled “Threats to the 2020 Election.” “Trump has made it clear that this will not be a fair election, and that he will reject anything but his own re-election as ‘fake’ and rigged,” he wrote. “On Nov. 3, should the media report otherwise, he will use the right-wing information system to establish his narrative and incite his supporters to protest.” The memo laid out four categories of challenges: attacks on voters, attacks on election administration, attacks on Trump’s political opponents and “efforts to reverse the results of the election.”

Then COVID-19 erupted at the height of the primary-election season. Normal methods of voting were no longer safe for voters or the mostly elderly volunteers who normally staff polling places. But political disagreements, intensified by Trump’s crusade against mail voting, prevented some states from making it easier to vote absentee and for jurisdictions to count those votes in a timely manner. Chaos ensued. Ohio shut down in-person voting for its primary, leading to minuscule turnout. A poll-worker shortage in Milwaukee–where Wisconsin’s heavily Democratic Black population is concentrated–left just five open polling places, down from 182. In New York, vote counting took more than a month.

Suddenly, the potential for a November meltdown was obvious. In his apartment in the D.C. suburbs, Podhorzer began working from his laptop at his kitchen table, holding back-to-back Zoom meetings for hours a day with his network of contacts across the progressive universe: the labor movement; the institutional left, like Planned Parenthood and Greenpeace; resistance groups like Indivisible and MoveOn; progressive data geeks and strategists, representatives of donors and foundations, state-level grassroots organizers, racial-justice activists and others.

In April, Podhorzer began hosting a weekly 2½-hour Zoom. It was structured around a series of rapid-fire five-minute presentations on everything from which ads were working to messaging to legal strategy. The invitation-only gatherings soon attracted hundreds, creating a rare shared base of knowledge for the fractious progressive movement. “At the risk of talking trash about the left, there’s not a lot of good information sharing,” says Anat Shenker-Osorio, a close Podhorzer friend whose poll-tested messaging guidance shaped the group’s approach. “There’s a lot of not-invented-here syndrome, where people won’t consider a good idea if they didn’t come up with it.”

The meetings became the galactic center for a constellation of operatives across the left who shared overlapping goals but didn’t usually work in concert. The group had no name, no leaders and no hierarchy, but it kept the disparate actors in sync. “Pod played a critical behind-the-scenes role in keeping different pieces of the movement infrastructure in communication and aligned,” says Maurice Mitchell, national director of the Working Families Party. “You have the litigation space, the organizing space, the political people just focused on the W, and their strategies aren’t always aligned. He allowed this ecosystem to work together.”

Protecting the election would require an effort of unprecedented scale. As 2020 progressed, it stretched to Congress, Silicon Valley and the nation’s statehouses. It drew energy from the summer’s racial-justice protests, many of whose leaders were a key part of the liberal alliance. And eventually it reached across the aisle, into the world of Trump-skeptical Republicans appalled by his attacks on democracy.

SECURING THE VOTE

The first task was overhauling America’s balky election infrastructure–in the middle of a pandemic. For the thousands of local, mostly nonpartisan officials who administer elections, the most urgent need was money. They needed protective equipment like masks, gloves and hand sanitizer. They needed to pay for postcards letting people know they could vote absentee–or, in some states, to mail ballots to every voter. They needed additional staff and scanners to process ballots.

In March, activists appealed to Congress to steer COVID relief money to election administration. Led by the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, more than 150 organizations signed a letter to every member of Congress seeking $2 billion in election funding. It was somewhat successful: the CARES Act, passed later that month, contained $400 million in grants to state election administrators. But the next tranche of relief funding didn’t add to that number. It wasn’t going to be enough.

Private philanthropy stepped into the breach. An assortment of foundations contributed tens of millions in election-administration funding. The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative chipped in $300 million. “It was a failure at the federal level that 2,500 local election officials were forced to apply for philanthropic grants to fill their needs,” says Amber McReynolds, a former Denver election official who heads the nonpartisan National Vote at Home Institute.

McReynolds’ two-year-old organization became a clearinghouse for a nation struggling to adapt. The institute gave secretaries of state from both parties technical advice on everything from which vendors to use to how to locate drop boxes. Local officials are the most trusted sources of election information, but few can afford a press secretary, so the institute distributed communications tool kits. In a presentation to Podhorzer’s group, McReynolds detailed the importance of absentee ballots for shortening lines at polling places and preventing an election crisis.

The institute’s work helped 37 states and D.C. bolster mail voting. But it wouldn’t be worth much if people didn’t take advantage. Part of the challenge was logistical: each state has different rules for when and how ballots should be requested and returned. The Voter Participation Center, which in a normal year would have deployed canvassers door-to-door to get out the vote, instead conducted focus groups in April and May to find out what would get people to vote by mail. In August and September, it sent ballot applications to 15 million people in key states, 4.6 million of whom returned them. In mailings and digital ads, the group urged people not to wait for Election Day. “All the work we have done for 17 years was built for this moment of bringing democracy to people’s doorsteps,” says Tom Lopach, the center’s CEO.

The effort had to overcome heightened skepticism in some communities. Many Black voters preferred to exercise their franchise in person or didn’t trust the mail. National civil rights groups worked with local organizations to get the word out that this was the best way to ensure one’s vote was counted. In Philadelphia, for example, advocates distributed “voting safety kits” containing masks, hand sanitizer and informational brochures. “We had to get the message out that this is safe, reliable, and you can trust it,” says Hannah Fried of All Voting Is Local.

At the same time, Democratic lawyers battled a historic tide of pre-election litigation. The pandemic intensified the parties’ usual tangling in the courts. But the lawyers noticed something else as well. “The litigation brought by the Trump campaign, of a piece with the broader campaign to sow doubt about mail voting, was making novel claims and using theories no court has ever accepted,” says Wendy Weiser, a voting-rights expert at the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU. “They read more like lawsuits designed to send a message rather than achieve a legal outcome.”

In the end, nearly half the electorate cast ballots by mail in 2020, practically a revolution in how people vote. About a quarter voted early in person. Only a quarter of voters cast their ballots the traditional way: in person on Election Day.

THE DISINFORMATION DEFENSE

Bad actors spreading false information is nothing new. For decades, campaigns have grappled with everything from anonymous calls claiming the election has been rescheduled to fliers spreading nasty smears about candidates’ families. But Trump’s lies and conspiracy theories, the viral force of social media and the involvement of foreign meddlers made disinformation a broader, deeper threat to the 2020 vote.

Laura Quinn, a veteran progressive operative who co-founded Catalist, began studying this problem a few years ago. She piloted a nameless, secret project, which she has never before publicly discussed, that tracked disinformation online and tried to figure out how to combat it. One component was tracking dangerous lies that might otherwise spread unnoticed. Researchers then provided information to campaigners or the media to track down the sources and expose them.

The most important takeaway from Quinn’s research, however, was that engaging with toxic content only made it worse. “When you get attacked, the instinct is to push back, call it out, say, ‘This isn’t true,'” Quinn says. “But the more engagement something gets, the more the platforms boost it. The algorithm reads that as, ‘Oh, this is popular; people want more of it.'”

The solution, she concluded, was to pressure platforms to enforce their rules, both by removing content or accounts that spread disinformation and by more aggressively policing it in the first place. “The platforms have policies against certain types of malign behavior, but they haven’t been enforcing them,” she says.

Quinn’s research gave ammunition to advocates pushing social media platforms to take a harder line. In November 2019, Mark Zuckerberg invited nine civil rights leaders to dinner at his home, where they warned him about the danger of the election-related falsehoods that were already spreading unchecked. “It took pushing, urging, conversations, brainstorming, all of that to get to a place where we ended up with more rigorous rules and enforcement,” says Vanita Gupta, president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, who attended the dinner and also met with Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and others. (Gupta has been nominated for Associate Attorney General by President Biden.) “It was a struggle, but we got to the point where they understood the problem. Was it enough? Probably not. Was it later than we wanted? Yes. But it was really important, given the level of official disinformation, that they had those rules in place and were tagging things and taking them down.”

SPREADING THE WORD

Beyond battling bad information, there was a need to explain a rapidly changing election process. It was crucial for voters to understand that despite what Trump was saying, mail-in votes weren’t susceptible to fraud and that it would be normal if some states weren’t finished counting votes on election night.

Dick Gephardt, the Democratic former House leader turned high-powered lobbyist, spearheaded one coalition. “We wanted to get a really bipartisan group of former elected officials, Cabinet secretaries, military leaders and so on, aimed mainly at messaging to the public but also speaking to local officials–the secretaries of state, attorneys general, governors who would be in the eye of the storm–to let them know we wanted to help,” says Gephardt, who worked his contacts in the private sector to put $20 million behind the effort.

Wamp, the former GOP Congressman, worked through the nonpartisan reform group Issue One to rally Republicans. “We thought we should bring some bipartisan element of unity around what constitutes a free and fair election,” Wamp says. The 22 Democrats and 22 Republicans on the National Council on Election Integrity met on Zoom at least once a week. They ran ads in six states, made statements, wrote articles and alerted local officials to potential problems. “We had rabid Trump supporters who agreed to serve on the council based on the idea that this is honest,” Wamp says. This is going to be just as important, he told them, to convince the liberals when Trump wins. “Whichever way it cuts, we’re going to stick together.”

The Voting Rights Lab and IntoAction created state-specific memes and graphics, spread by email, text, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, urging that every vote be counted. Together, they were viewed more than 1 billion times. Protect Democracy’s election task force issued reports and held media briefings with high-profile experts across the political spectrum, resulting in widespread coverage of potential election issues and fact-checking of Trump’s false claims. The organization’s tracking polls found the message was being heard: the percentage of the public that didn’t expect to know the winner on election night gradually rose until by late October, it was over 70%. A majority also believed that a prolonged count wasn’t a sign of problems. “We knew exactly what Trump was going to do: he was going to try to use the fact that Democrats voted by mail and Republicans voted in person to make it look like he was ahead, claim victory, say the mail-in votes were fraudulent and try to get them thrown out,” says Protect Democracy’s Bassin. Setting public expectations ahead of time helped undercut those lies.


The alliance took a common set of themes from the research Shenker-Osorio presented at Podhorzer’s Zooms. Studies have shown that when people don’t think their vote will count or fear casting it will be a hassle, they’re far less likely to participate. Throughout election season, members of Podhorzer’s group minimized incidents of voter intimidation and tamped down rising liberal hysteria about Trump’s expected refusal to concede. They didn’t want to amplify false claims by engaging them, or put people off voting by suggesting a rigged game. “When you say, ‘These claims of fraud are spurious,’ what people hear is ‘fraud,'” Shenker-Osorio says. “What we saw in our pre-election research was that anything that reaffirmed Trump’s power or cast him as an authoritarian diminished people’s desire to vote.”

Podhorzer, meanwhile, was warning everyone he knew that polls were underestimating Trump’s support. The data he shared with media organizations who would be calling the election was “tremendously useful” to understand what was happening as the votes rolled in, according to a member of a major network’s political unit who spoke with Podhorzer before Election Day. Most analysts had recognized there would be a “blue shift” in key battlegrounds– the surge of votes breaking toward Democrats, driven by tallies of mail-in ballots– but they hadn’t comprehended how much better Trump was likely to do on Election Day. “Being able to document how big the absentee wave would be and the variance by state was essential,” the analyst says.

PEOPLE POWER

The racial-justice uprising sparked by George Floyd’s killing in May was not primarily a political movement. The organizers who helped lead it wanted to harness its momentum for the election without allowing it to be co-opted by politicians. Many of those organizers were part of Podhorzer’s network, from the activists in battleground states who partnered with the Democracy Defense Coalition to organizations with leading roles in the Movement for Black Lives.

The best way to ensure people’s voices were heard, they decided, was to protect their ability to vote. “We started thinking about a program that would complement the traditional election-protection area but also didn’t rely on calling the police,” says Nelini Stamp, the Working Families Party’s national organizing director. They created a force of “election defenders” who, unlike traditional poll watchers, were trained in de-escalation techniques. During early voting and on Election Day, they surrounded lines of voters in urban areas with a “joy to the polls” effort that turned the act of casting a ballot into a street party. Black organizers also recruited thousands of poll workers to ensure polling places would stay open in their communities.

The summer uprising had shown that people power could have a massive impact. Activists began preparing to reprise the demonstrations if Trump tried to steal the election. “Americans plan widespread protests if Trump interferes with election,” Reuters reported in October, one of many such stories. More than 150 liberal groups, from the Women’s March to the Sierra Club to Color of Change, from Democrats.com to the Democratic Socialists of America, joined the “Protect the Results” coalition. The group’s now defunct website had a map listing 400 planned postelection demonstrations, to be activated via text message as soon as Nov. 4. To stop the coup they feared, the left was ready to flood the streets.

STRANGE BEDFELLOWS

About a week before Election Day, Podhorzer received an unexpected message: the U.S. Chamber of Commerce wanted to talk.

The AFL-CIO and the Chamber have a long history of antagonism. Though neither organization is explicitly partisan, the influential business lobby has poured hundreds of millions of dollars into Republican campaigns, just as the nation’s unions funnel hundreds of millions to Democrats. On one side is labor, on the other management, locked in an eternal struggle for power and resources.

But behind the scenes, the business community was engaged in its own anxious discussions about how the election and its aftermath might unfold. The summer’s racial-justice protests had sent a signal to business owners too: the potential for economy-disrupting civil disorder. “With tensions running high, there was a lot of concern about unrest around the election, or a breakdown in our normal way we handle contentious elections,” says Neil Bradley, the Chamber’s executive vice president and chief policy officer. These worries had led the Chamber to release a pre-election statement with the Business Roundtable, a Washington-based CEOs’ group, as well as associations of manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers, calling for patience and confidence as votes were counted.

But Bradley wanted to send a broader, more bipartisan message. He reached out to Podhorzer, through an intermediary both men declined to name. Agreeing that their unlikely alliance would be powerful, they began to discuss a joint statement pledging their organizations’ shared commitment to a fair and peaceful election. They chose their words carefully and scheduled the statement’s release for maximum impact. As it was being finalized, Christian leaders signaled their interest in joining, further broadening its reach.

The statement was released on Election Day, under the names of Chamber CEO Thomas Donohue, AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka, and the heads of the National Association of Evangelicals and the National African American Clergy Network. “It is imperative that election officials be given the space and time to count every vote in accordance with applicable laws,” it stated. “We call on the media, the candidates and the American people to exercise patience with the process and trust in our system, even if it requires more time than usual.” The groups added, “Although we may not always agree on desired outcomes up and down the ballot, we are united in our call for the American democratic process to proceed without violence, intimidation or any other tactic that makes us weaker as a nation.”

SHOWING UP, STANDING DOWN

Election night began with many Democrats despairing. Trump was running ahead of pre-election polling, winning Florida, Ohio and Texas easily and keeping Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania too close to call. But Podhorzer was unperturbed when I spoke to him that night: the returns were exactly in line with his modeling. He had been warning for weeks that Trump voters’ turnout was surging. As the numbers dribbled out, he could tell that as long as all the votes were counted, Trump would lose.

The liberal alliance gathered for an 11 p.m. Zoom call. Hundreds joined; many were freaking out. “It was really important for me and the team in that moment to help ground people in what we had already known was true,” says Angela Peoples, director for the Democracy Defense Coalition. Podhorzer presented data to show the group that victory was in hand.

While he was talking, Fox News surprised everyone by calling Arizona for Biden. The public-awareness campaign had worked: TV anchors were bending over backward to counsel caution and frame the vote count accurately. The question then became what to do next.

The conversation that followed was a difficult one, led by the activists charged with the protest strategy. “We wanted to be mindful of when was the right time to call for moving masses of people into the street,” Peoples says. As much as they were eager to mount a show of strength, mobilizing immediately could backfire and put people at risk. Protests that devolved into violent clashes would give Trump a pretext to send in federal agents or troops as he had over the summer. And rather than elevate Trump’s complaints by continuing to fight him, the alliance wanted to send the message that the people had spoken.

So the word went out: stand down. Protect the Results announced that it would “not be activating the entire national mobilization network today, but remains ready to activate if necessary.” On Twitter, outraged progressives wondered what was going on. Why wasn’t anyone trying to stop Trump’s coup? Where were all the protests?

Podhorzer credits the activists for their restraint. “They had spent so much time getting ready to hit the streets on Wednesday. But they did it,” he says. “Wednesday through Friday, there was not a single Antifa vs. Proud Boys incident like everyone was expecting. And when that didn’t materialize, I don’t think the Trump campaign had a backup plan.”

Activists reoriented the Protect the Results protests toward a weekend of celebration. “Counter their disinfo with our confidence & get ready to celebrate,” read the messaging guidance Shenker-Osorio presented to the liberal alliance on Friday, Nov. 6. “Declare and fortify our win. Vibe: confident, forward-looking, unified–NOT passive, anxious.” The voters, not the candidates, would be the protagonists of the story.

The planned day of celebration happened to coincide with the election being called on Nov. 7. Activists dancing in the streets of Philadelphia blasted Beyoncé over an attempted Trump campaign press conference; the Trumpers’ next confab was scheduled for Four Seasons Total Landscaping outside the city center, which activists believe was not a coincidence. “The people of Philadelphia owned the streets of Philadelphia,” crows the Working Families Party’s Mitchell. “We made them look ridiculous by contrasting our joyous celebration of democracy with their clown show.”

The votes had been counted. Trump had lost. But the battle wasn’t over.

THE FIVE STEPS TO VICTORY

In Podhorzer’s presentations, winning the vote was only the first step to winning the election. After that came winning the count, winning the certification, winning the Electoral College and winning the transition–steps that are normally formalities but that he knew Trump would see as opportunities for disruption. Nowhere would that be more evident than in Michigan, where Trump’s pressure on local Republicans came perilously close to working–and where liberal and conservative pro-democracy forces joined to counter it.

It was around 10 p.m. on election night in Detroit when a flurry of texts lit up the phone of Art Reyes III. A busload of Republican election observers had arrived at the TCF Center, where votes were being tallied. They were crowding the vote-counting tables, refusing to wear masks, heckling the mostly Black workers. Reyes, a Flint native who leads We the People Michigan, was expecting this. For months, conservative groups had been sowing suspicion about urban vote fraud. “The language was, ‘They’re going to steal the election; there will be fraud in Detroit,’ long before any vote was cast,” Reyes says.


He made his way to the arena and sent word to his network. Within 45 minutes, dozens of reinforcements had arrived. As they entered the arena to provide a counterweight to the GOP observers inside, Reyes took down their cell-phone numbers and added them to a massive text chain. Racial-justice activists from Detroit Will Breathe worked alongside suburban women from Fems for Dems and local elected officials. Reyes left at 3 a.m., handing the text chain over to a disability activist.

As they mapped out the steps in the election-certification process, activists settled on a strategy of foregrounding the people’s right to decide, demanding their voices be heard and calling attention to the racial implications of disenfranchising Black Detroiters. They flooded the Wayne County canvassing board’s Nov. 17 certification meeting with on-message testimony; despite a Trump tweet, the Republican board members certified Detroit’s votes.

Election boards were one pressure point; another was GOP-controlled legislatures, who Trump believed could declare the election void and appoint their own electors. And so the President invited the GOP leaders of the Michigan legislature, House Speaker Lee Chatfield and Senate majority leader Mike Shirkey, to Washington on Nov. 20.

It was a perilous moment. If Chatfield and Shirkey agreed to do Trump’s bidding, Republicans in other states might be similarly bullied. “I was concerned things were going to get weird,” says Jeff Timmer, a former Michigan GOP executive director turned anti-Trump activist. Norm Eisen describes it as “the scariest moment” of the entire election.

The democracy defenders launched a full-court press. Protect Democracy’s local contacts researched the lawmakers’ personal and political motives. Issue One ran television ads in Lansing. The Chamber’s Bradley kept close tabs on the process. Wamp, the former Republican Congressman, called his former colleague Mike Rogers, who wrote an op-ed for the Detroit newspapers urging officials to honor the will of the voters. Three former Michigan governors–Republicans John Engler and Rick Snyder and Democrat Jennifer Granholm–jointly called for Michigan’s electoral votes to be cast free of pressure from the White House. Engler, a former head of the Business Roundtable, made phone calls to influential donors and fellow GOP elder statesmen who could press the lawmakers privately.

The pro-democracy forces were up against a Trumpified Michigan GOP controlled by allies of Ronna McDaniel, the Republican National Committee chair, and Betsy DeVos, the former Education Secretary and a member of a billionaire family of GOP donors. On a call with his team on Nov. 18, Bassin vented that his side’s pressure was no match for what Trump could offer. “Of course he’s going to try to offer them something,” Bassin recalls thinking. “Head of the Space Force! Ambassador to wherever! We can’t compete with that by offering carrots. We need a stick.”

If Trump were to offer something in exchange for a personal favor, that would likely constitute bribery, Bassin reasoned. He phoned Richard Primus, a law professor at the University of Michigan, to see if Primus agreed and would make the argument publicly. Primus said he thought the meeting itself was inappropriate, and got to work on an op-ed for Politico warning that the state attorney general–a Democrat–would have no choice but to investigate. When the piece posted on Nov. 19, the attorney general’s communications director tweeted it. Protect Democracy soon got word that the lawmakers planned to bring lawyers to the meeting with Trump the next day.

Reyes’ activists scanned flight schedules and flocked to the airports on both ends of Shirkey’s journey to D.C., to underscore that the lawmakers were being scrutinized. After the meeting, the pair announced they’d pressed the President to deliver COVID relief for their constituents and informed him they saw no role in the election process. Then they went for a drink at the Trump hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue. A street artist projected their images onto the outside of the building along with the words THE WORLD IS WATCHING.

That left one last step: the state canvassing board, made up of two Democrats and two Republicans. One Republican, a Trumper employed by the DeVos family’s political nonprofit, was not expected to vote for certification. The other Republican on the board was a little-known lawyer named Aaron Van Langevelde. He sent no signals about what he planned to do, leaving everyone on edge.

When the meeting began, Reyes’s activists flooded the livestream and filled Twitter with their hashtag, #alleyesonmi. A board accustomed to attendance in the single digits suddenly faced an audience of thousands. In hours of testimony, the activists emphasized their message of respecting voters’ wishes and affirming democracy rather than scolding the officials. Van Langevelde quickly signaled he would follow precedent. The vote was 3-0 to certify; the other Republican abstained.

After that, the dominoes fell. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and the rest of the states certified their electors. Republican officials in Arizona and Georgia stood up to Trump’s bullying. And the Electoral College voted on schedule on Dec. 14.

HOW CLOSE WE CAME

There was one last milestone on Podhorzer’s mind: Jan. 6. On the day Congress would meet to tally the electoral count, Trump summoned his supporters to D.C. for a rally.

Much to their surprise, the thousands who answered his call were met by virtually no counterdemonstrators. To preserve safety and ensure they couldn’t be blamed for any mayhem, the activist left was “strenuously discouraging counter activity,” Podhorzer texted me the morning of Jan. 6, with a crossed-fingers emoji.

Trump addressed the crowd that afternoon, peddling the lie that lawmakers or Vice President Mike Pence could reject states’ electoral votes. He told them to go to the Capitol and “fight like hell.” Then he returned to the White House as they sacked the building. As lawmakers fled for their lives and his own supporters were shot and trampled, Trump praised the rioters as “very special.”

It was his final attack on democracy, and once again, it failed. By standing down, the democracy campaigners outfoxed their foes. “We won by the skin of our teeth, honestly, and that’s an important point for folks to sit with,” says the Democracy Defense Coalition’s Peoples. “There’s an impulse for some to say voters decided and democracy won. But it’s a mistake to think that this election cycle was a show of strength for democracy. It shows how vulnerable democracy is.”

The members of the alliance to protect the election have gone their separate ways. The Democracy Defense Coalition has been disbanded, though the Fight Back Table lives on. Protect Democracy and the good-government advocates have turned their attention to pressing reforms in Congress. Left-wing activists are pressuring the newly empowered Democrats to remember the voters who put them there, while civil rights groups are on guard against further attacks on voting. Business leaders denounced the Jan. 6 attack, and some say they will no longer donate to lawmakers who refused to certify Biden’s victory. Podhorzer and his allies are still holding their Zoom strategy sessions, gauging voters’ views and developing new messages. And Trump is in Florida, facing his second impeachment, deprived of the Twitter and Facebook accounts he used to push the nation to its breaking point.

As I was reporting this article in November and December, I heard different claims about who should get the credit for thwarting Trump’s plot. Liberals argued the role of bottom-up people power shouldn’t be overlooked, particularly the contributions of people of color and local grassroots activists. Others stressed the heroism of GOP officials like Van Langevelde and Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger, who stood up to Trump at considerable cost. The truth is that neither likely could have succeeded without the other. “It’s astounding how close we came, how fragile all this really is,” says Timmer, the former Michigan GOP executive director. “It’s like when Wile E. Coyote runs off the cliff–if you don’t look down, you don’t fall. Our democracy only survives if we all believe and don’t look down.”

Democracy won in the end. The will of the people prevailed. But it’s crazy, in retrospect, that this is what it took to put on an election in the United States of America.

–With reporting by LESLIE DICKSTEIN, MARIAH ESPADA and SIMMONE SHAH

Correction appended, Feb. 5: The original version of this story misstated the name of Norm Eisen’s organization. It is the Voter Protection Program, not the Voter Protection Project. The original version of this story also misstated Jeff Timmer’s former position with the Michigan Republican Party. He was the executive director, not the chairman.
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"The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election"
« Reply #2213 on: August 31, 2022, 02:34:38 PM »
" In a way, Trump was right."


".The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all, a failure of the central act of democratic self-governance that has been a hallmark of America since its founding."

what !

" This is the inside story of the conspiracy to save the 2020 election, based on access to the group’s inner workings, never-before-seen documents and interviews with dozens of those involved from across the political spectrum. It is the story of an unprecedented, creative and determined campaign whose success also reveals how close the nation came to disaster. “Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated,” says Ian Bassin, co-founder of Protect Democracy, "

who are they kidding !

" The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted. "

is this a joke?

this is the MOST OBNOXIOUS lying stinking bunch of horseshit

Author :

Molly Ball another lying Democrat Yale graduate Jewish
  make me ashamed Jewish power hungry commie
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Ball

for those on the board who have not read parts of it like I did -
don't bother

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Re: "The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election"
« Reply #2214 on: August 31, 2022, 03:54:13 PM »
" In a way, Trump was right."

Fixed it.


" In a way, Trump was right."


".The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all, a failure of the central act of democratic self-governance that has been a hallmark of America since its founding."

what !

" This is the inside story of the conspiracy to save the 2020 election, based on access to the group’s inner workings, never-before-seen documents and interviews with dozens of those involved from across the political spectrum. It is the story of an unprecedented, creative and determined campaign whose success also reveals how close the nation came to disaster. “Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated,” says Ian Bassin, co-founder of Protect Democracy, "

who are they kidding !

" The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted. "

is this a joke?

this is the MOST OBNOXIOUS lying stinking bunch of horseshit

Author :

Molly Ball another lying Democrat Yale graduate Jewish
  make me ashamed Jewish power hungry commie
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Ball

for those on the board who have not read parts of it like I did -
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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2216 on: September 01, 2022, 05:49:03 AM »
yeah

 I was pissed when Murkowski Tammany Hall(ed) her way with this scam too.

probably rigged by the well monied  , connected murkowski crowd


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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2217 on: September 01, 2022, 05:59:43 AM »
Not clearly stated in the article but what I got was the Rep vote was divided among several candidates, that this win is good only for the remainder of the term, and that there will be only three candidates in November and that Palin will be one of them.

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« Reply #2218 on: September 01, 2022, 06:14:10 AM »
One commentator said, the two main R sides hated each other, didn't put the other as second choice.

My point, who cares who your second choice is, and you shouldn't need to have a second choice strategy to vote.  Have a runoff if you don't have party primaries.
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Your Constitutional Right!
« Reply #2219 on: September 01, 2022, 09:13:28 PM »
Jesse Kelly:

PRO TIP: You’re a free American. You have every right to say anything you want about an election. Anything you want.

Anyone telling you otherwise is someone who cheated in an election and plans to cheat in the next one.

It’s critical for a free society. So if an election is disputed, the people in power should open the books and show everyone how fair it was.

If the people in power don’t do this and instead try to silence opposition, the country is almost finished. Trust is their job. Not mine.



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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2223 on: September 05, 2022, 03:46:58 PM »
"Furthermore, many of the company’s software engineers and employees graduated from Chinese universities such as Zhejiang University, Nanjing University, University of Science and Technology of China, Beijing Language and Culture University, China Agricultural University, and HuaZhong University of Science and Technology."

AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM!
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONES ARE SPIES?

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2224 on: September 05, 2022, 04:02:04 PM »
"Furthermore, many of the company’s software engineers and employees graduated from Chinese universities such as Zhejiang University, Nanjing University, University of Science and Technology of China, Beijing Language and Culture University, China Agricultural University, and HuaZhong University of Science and Technology."

AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM!
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONES ARE SPIES?

Just the ones from China

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Plus their quislings , , ,



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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2228 on: September 08, 2022, 06:46:51 AM »
"More fraud in MI"

Left unsaid is who did these ineligible or dead "voters " vote for?

since nothing about it in the MSM we know


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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2229 on: September 08, 2022, 06:48:40 AM »
"More fraud in MI"

Left unsaid is who did these ineligible or dead "voters " vote for?

since nothing about it in the MSM we know

If it was republicans, they'd mention it.

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« Reply #2230 on: September 08, 2022, 07:02:47 AM »
"If it was republicans, they'd mention it."

precisely


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« Reply #2232 on: September 08, 2022, 03:32:20 PM »
1) A Useful Reminder That Every Vote Counts

If you think your vote doesn’t matter, take a look at the tragic results in the Montgomery County Democratic primary for County Executive after the third and final recount last week:

David Blair: 55,472

Marc Elrich: 55,504.

A 32 vote difference out of 100,000 votes.

If the name Marc Elrich, by the way, sounds familiar, it may be because he is the county executive who refused to give police protection to Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh when he and his family received death threats from abortion protesters gathered outside his home. Here was the WSJ headline:
 
Why Marc Elrich Won’t Protect Supreme Court Justices
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-man-who-wont-protect-the-justices-supreme-court-marshal-gail-curley-mark-elrich-montgomery-county-11657143465?mod=article_inline

Elrich also was one of the nation’s leading lockdown artists during Covid. He even infamously wanted to shut down PRIVATE schools in 2020.

In other words: He’s one of the nation’s leading fools and tyrants.

If only 33 Marylanders had turned out to vote against him, he would no longer be a menace to society. 

So vote!

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« Reply #2233 on: September 09, 2022, 08:41:26 AM »
https://patriotpost.us/alexander/91152?mailing_id=6930&utm_medium=email&utm_source=pp.email.6930&utm_campaign=alexander&utm_content=body

From the article:

“election deniers.”

On the 2000 Presidential Election

On Al Gore’s defeat by George W. Bush, in 2013 Biden asserted, “[Gore] was elected president of the United States of America.”
Biden’s Chief of Staff Ron Klain said: “People frequently tell me that I should ‘get over’ the 2000 election and recount. I haven’t, and I don’t think I ever will.”
Joe Biden, 2016: “I think [Gore] won.”
Hillary Clinton, 2016: The Supreme Court “took away a presidency.”
Barack Obama, 2005: “Not every vote” was counted.
Bill Clinton, 2001: “The only way they could win the election was to stop the voting in Florida.”
Jimmy Carter, 2005: “There’s no doubt in my mind that Al Gore was elected president.”
Jamie Raskin, 2003: George W. Bush was the “first court-appointed president.”
Terry McAuliffe, 2004: “We won that election!”
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, 2016: “The Supreme Court elected the president. Al Gore won the state of Florida in 2000.”
Al Gore, 2017: “Actually I think I carried Florida.”

On the 2004 Presidential Election

Howard Dean, 2006: “I’m not confident” the election “was fairly decided” because “the machines were not reliable.”
Hillary Clinton, 2005: “It’s fair to say that there are many legitimate questions about” the “accuracy” and “integrity” of America’s election system.
Jerry Nadler, 2005: “The right to vote has been stolen from qualified voters.”
Sheila Jackson Lee, 2004: “We cannot declare that the election of November 2, 2004 was free and clear and transparent and real.”
Maxine Waters, 2005: “Problems in the Ohio election” could have been “outcome determinative.”

On the 2016 Presidential Election

Joe Biden, 2019: “I absolutely” agree that Trump is an “illegitimate president.”
Hillary Clinton, 2019: The election was “stolen.”
Jimmy Carter, 2019: “Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016. He lost the election and was put into office because of the Russians’ interference on his behalf.”
Kamala Harris, 2019: “Absolutely right” that Trump “didn’t really win.”
Jerry Nadler, 2017: It was a “tainted” and “illegitimate” election.
Karine Jean-Pierre, 2016: “Stolen emails, stolen drone, stolen election. Welcome to the world of #unpresidented Trump.”

On the High-Profile 2018 Georgia Gubernatorial Election

Stacey Abrams, 2019: “We won!”
Cory Booker, 2018: “Stacey Abrams’ election is being stolen from her.”
Sherrod Brown, 2018: “They stole it. It’s clear.”
Hillary Clinton, 2018: “If she had a fair election, she already would have won.”
Kamala Harris, 2019: “Without voter suppression, Stacey Abrams would be the governor of Georgia; Andrew Gillum is the governor of Florida.”
Karine Jean-Pierre, 2020: “Reminder: Brian Kemp stole the gubernatorial election from Georgians and Stacey Abrams.”
Terry McAuliffe, 2021: Abrams would have been governor “had the governor of Georgia not disenfranchised 1.4 million Georgia voters.”

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ABSENTEE BALLOTS by STATE
« Reply #2234 on: September 10, 2022, 09:36:53 AM »
STATES WITH ALL MAIL IN BALLOTING:

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-18-states-with-all-mail-elections.aspx

EARLY ELECTION DAY:

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/early-voting-in-state-elections.aspx

POST ELECTION DAY :

https://www.vote.org/absentee-ballot-deadlines/

 I am surprised most swing states are not excepting mail ins after election day except for Ohio could be a problem.
The states that do are primarily the usual suspects :
California, NY, NJ, Maryland, DC (does it matter?), Mass, Alaska (makes sense here ), WV
 



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Re: The next election WILL be stolen
« Reply #2237 on: September 11, 2022, 12:31:19 PM »
Unless.we.stop.them.

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Re: The next election WILL be stolen
« Reply #2238 on: September 12, 2022, 07:31:44 AM »



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WSJ: Ranked Choice Voting in Alaska
« Reply #2241 on: September 15, 2022, 08:04:44 AM »
How Republicans Might Lose Alaska Again
New ranked-choice data say Begich beats Peltola, but Palin won’t quit.
By The Editorial Board
Sept. 14, 2022 6:31 pm ET


Mary Peltola was sworn in Tuesday as Alaska’s Democratic Congresswoman, and given her state’s Republican tilt, that phrase still hits the ear like the Cat representative from Dogtown. When Ms. Peltola won last month’s special election, many in the GOP blamed Alaska’s new ranked-choice voting system. The case for ditching it is now being bolstered by fresh data.

Recall how Ms. Peltola’s improbable victory went down: She was the only Democrat on the ballot, with 40.2% of first-choice votes. Two Republicans split the rest, Sarah Palin with 31.3% and Nick Begich with 28.5%. Under the ranked-choice system, Mr. Begich was eliminated and his voters were shuffled to their second choices. Half migrated to Ms. Palin. A quarter went to Ms. Peltola, giving her a 51.5% majority.

A quirk of ranked-choice voting is that the final winner might flip depending on the rankings further down the ballot. What if instead Ms. Palin had been eliminated? That’s the question we asked when the result was announced, but it was impossible to know, because the state hadn’t released data on the second choices of her voters. Here’s the answer: Mr. Begich would have won the seat with about 52.5% of the vote, a point higher than Ms. Peltola’s victory.

That’s according to an analysis of Alaska election data byFairVote, a group that favors ranked choice. If Ms. Palin had been eliminated, 59% of her voters would have gone to Mr. Begich and only 6% to Ms. Peltola. Interestingly, among voters who ranked the Democrat first, the effective second pick (skipping some write-ins) for 63% was also Mr. Begich. Only 5% chose Ms. Palin. Advocates say ranked choice is better at producing consensus winners, but in Alaska that would have been Mr. Begich.

The state’s new voting system isn’t responsible for the GOP split or Ms. Palin’s controversial history. In a traditional Republican primary, she might have beat Mr. Begich anyway and then lost to Ms. Peltola. But at least that would have given Mr. Begich a chance to make a direct case to Republicans that Ms. Palin is too polarizing to win. Ranked-choice voting discourages people from dwelling on the vital question of electability. The theory is that voters can simply number their favorites, and it will all come out in the wash.


Alaska will more or less re-run this election in November, and the strategies could get exotic. Ms. Palin has refused to drop out, arguing that she beat Mr. Begich. But why would Mr. Begich quit, since the data say he’s the only Republican who can win? His unenviable job now is to convince Palin superfans to think tactically and pick him first in a general election, while the ranked-choice crowd urges them to follow their hearts and trust the reallocation.

Democrats have an obvious incentive to ensure Mr. Begich is eliminated. What if the final pre-election polls show him edging out Ms. Palin among the GOP? Some Democrats might decide that the best use of their ballots is to vote for Ms. Palin, so she can survive to lose to Ms. Peltola in the last round. Ranked choice encourages this kind of thinking to game the system.

A final word about transparency: We’re relying on the FairVote analysis because Alaska still hasn’t released this data set in an easily readable format. Instead the state posted “a JSON file, used by the ranked-choice software.” The Division of Elections adds that it “cannot help voters access or analyze the data.”

Sorry, but this is moose baloney. Ranked-choice tabulation gets complicated, but a democratic government is supposed to let citizens see with their own eyes how the votes break down. That’s part of maintaining trust in elections.

The question for November is whether Republicans can coordinate better to prevent Ms. Peltola from getting a full two-year term. The longer debate is whether Alaskans want to stick with an opaque ranked-choice system that produces perverse results.

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Re: WSJ: Ranked Choice Voting in Alaska
« Reply #2242 on: September 15, 2022, 09:09:30 AM »
Interesting take, NYers opining on Alaska (moose baloney?),  "but Palin won't quit"

Palin took second place but third place guy would have won ranked choice second count by a hair.

A quarter of each's support would rather lose to Dem than have the other win, and 40% chose the Dem in the first place.

1.  Get rid of ranked choice voting at the first opportunity.

2. Both should drop out if the other choice is neither.

3.  Aren't we about to lose the Senate seat the same way, Murkowski has 45% support.
https://www.cnn.com/election/2022/results/alaska/primaries/senate

I liked Sarah Palin at one point, She was a good or great Governor at the point where McCain picked her for the national stage.  Aside from personal stuff, she disqualified herself from statewide election when she resigned her term later as Governor.  Alaskans can decide that, but her 30% primary total indicates she is not the statewide hero she once was.

I guess the WSJ has it right.  Given ranked choice voting, Palin should drop out.  She took third.

Nick Begich looks okay to me.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2243 on: September 15, 2022, 11:18:03 AM »
I received three different voter registration form mailers from the City of Minneapolis today, even though I don't live in the city of Minneapolis and they know that by the address they sent these to, and you don't need to pre-register to vote in Minnesota.

What could go wrong.  But nothing does go wrong.  I'm lucky to live in a Democrat run state that has zero prosecutions for vote fraud.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2244 on: September 15, 2022, 09:09:50 PM »
I received three different voter registration form mailers from the City of Minneapolis today, even though I don't live in the city of Minneapolis and they know that by the address they sent these to, and you don't need to pre-register to vote in Minnesota.

What could go wrong.  But nothing does go wrong.  I'm lucky to live in a Democrat run state that has zero prosecutions for vote fraud.

I have been assured that vote fraud is a right wing myth.

Thankfully the FBI and FaceBook are seeking out election deniers.

https://nypost.com/2022/09/14/facebook-spied-on-private-messages-of-americans-who-questioned-2020-election/



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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2247 on: September 16, 2022, 09:40:40 AM »
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OTOH I like my subject line better , , ,  :-D


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its starting
« Reply #2248 on: September 20, 2022, 06:13:32 AM »
google headline today

"register to vote"

and all the how to register to vote links come up in 'english and some Spanish'

the ballot harvesters are gearing up
getting their organizations ready
and enlisting their soldiers as we speak

I don't understand how we can't covertly bust this open......


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Re: its starting
« Reply #2249 on: September 20, 2022, 10:07:00 PM »
google headline today

"register to vote"

and all the how to register to vote links come up in 'english and some Spanish'

the ballot harvesters are gearing up
getting their organizations ready
and enlisting their soldiers as we speak

I don't understand how we can't covertly bust this open......
It has been done. And yet, the dems just intensify their vote fraud operations.


https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/opinion-columns/victor-joecks/victor-joecks-project-veritas-videos-reveal-widespread-mail-ballot-fraud-2133070/