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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #3001 on: November 06, 2024, 03:43:00 PM »
yes

compare the results to previous RNC chair
McDaniel ?  I forgot her name already ; at least she meant well compared to
 another former RNC chair one on MSNBC who still doesn't know what in tarnation he is talking about.
To think he was a chair of anything.

Michael Steele.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #3002 on: November 06, 2024, 04:03:39 PM »
Yup.

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WSJ: Voters reject ranked choice voting
« Reply #3003 on: November 07, 2024, 06:53:29 AM »


Ranked-Choice Voting Rejection
Despite a well-funded push, voters in red and blue states say no to this electoral gimmick.
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A ranked-choice voting (RCV) ballot in Arlington, Va., June 20, 2023. Photo: Sue Dorfman/Zuma Press
Perhaps ranked-choice voting (RCV) will soon join bell bottoms and Beanie Babies in the fad hall of fame. In several states with referendums Tuesday to adopt RCV, voters said no, and clearly. The public appears to realize that this isn’t the polarization cure-all that its supporters advertise.

The details of the proposals varied, as did the states. RCV failed in blue Oregon and Colorado, red Idaho, and purple Arizona and Nevada. Missouri pre-emptively banned it. Alaska’s measure to repeal RCV was leading, but too close to call, as we went to press. The exception in supporting ranked choice was Washington, D.C., which is hardly a governance model.

Under RCV, voters rank candidates on the ballot in order of preference. If there’s no majority consensus upon counting No. 1 votes, the ballots are retabulated after dropping the lowest vote-getters. Proponents claim it gives voters more options and makes democracy more “equitable,” but it also makes elections more complicated and less transparent.

Alaska voters approved RCV in 2020, while abolishing party primaries in favor of a jungle “top four” system. That’s similar to some of the measures rejected Tuesday, and maybe voters nationally learned something from watching the results. In Alaska’s House race this year, two Republicans dropped out to avoid diluting the message of the GOP favorite, so the “top four” system instead ended up putting a prison inmate on the November ballot.

The RCV push has been heavily funded in several states by billionaire John Arnold and his wife Laura, who helped bankroll Alaska’s original 2020 measure, as well as the defense of the system this year. They put about $39 million into such efforts this year alone. Funding from all sources in support of RCV measures has been over $98 million, or 29 times as much as was raised by RCV opponents, according to the Honest Elections Project.

Sometimes no amount of money can convince voters to sign up for a bad idea, and the margins are heartening. In Idaho, as of the latest figures, about 70% of voters rejected RCV with a “top four” primary. Colorado’s similar measure failed 55% to 45%, and Nevada’s “top five” primary went down 54% to 46%.

Perhaps RCV’s advocates will try again, but given that these measures fell short in some cases by double digits, they’ll have to ask themselves how many more millions they’re prepared to burn.

That leaves Washington, D.C., which will begin using RCV in 2026, joining a few other big cities, including New York and San Francisco. Maybe the system works better in smaller environments or these kinds of one-party strongholds, where most of the political debate under the old system was taking place inside the Democratic Party anyway.

In any case, it’s hard to blame voters elsewhere for deciding that they didn’t want to join the guinea pigs.

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WSJ: The Electoral College
« Reply #3004 on: November 07, 2024, 03:18:09 PM »


The Electoral College Embodies America
There would be no country without the founding compromise.
By Matthew Hennessey
Nov. 6, 2024 5:34 pm ET



After every presidential election we get a flurry of commentary questioning the Electoral College. It’s an anachronism, some say, no longer useful or relevant. Others call it a tool for the deliberate disenfranchisement of minorities. Such arguments are generally made in bad faith by partisans dissatisfied with the outcome of the most recent contest, and they were especially vehement in 2000 and 2016, when the winner fell short of a plurality in the national popular vote. That doesn’t mean they can be ignored. On the contrary, they must be addressed because they are—and I mean this literally—anti-American.

Not for nothing is the country called the United States of America. There’s a reason, even if many modern Americans don’t know or don’t remember what it is. Without the founding compromises embedded in the Constitution, including but not limited to the Electoral College, the U.S. as we understand it today wouldn’t exist.

Elected representatives of the 13 victorious former colonies arrived in Philadelphia in May 1787 to hash out some sort of permanent political arrangement. Things could have gone many directions. Among the issues that needed resolution was how the president of a new federal government would be selected. Some wanted Congress to pick the chief executive. Others insisted on a national popular vote. Having Congress do it undermined the principle of the separation of powers. Having the people do it would concentrate power in the population centers of the Northeast. The rural states wouldn’t agree to that. Stalemate.

“This subject has greatly divided the House, and will also divide the people out of doors,” reflected convention delegate James Wilson of Pennsylvania, a future Supreme Court justice. “It is in truth the most difficult of all on which we have had to decide.”

The delegates finally alighted on the idea of the Electoral College to balance these competing interests, and the federal project moved forward. As a result, we have a country today.

Some critics of the Electoral College seem to wish we lived in an alternative timeline, unconstrained, to coin a phrase, by what has been. But there are no such timelines. There’s only this one, in which the past inevitably instructs and often limits the present. The Constitution provides a mechanism for change, but it isn’t an easy process by design. Every generation doesn’t get to void the old political dispensation and declare an entirely new one.

Maybe in other countries that’s how it’s done. Not in America. Not in the U.S.

We are e pluribus unum, out of many, one. The Electoral College is a reflection of our founding not as a singular political entity ruled by a monarch in a faraway city but as a federal republic of constitutionally limited and separated powers. The 50 states are sovereign even as the union among them is indivisible. This is Civics 101. People who didn’t pay attention in school can be forgiven their ignorance. But they might also think about keeping it to themselves.

Mr. Hennessey is the Journal’s deputy editorial features editor.

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Adapt or Die: Republicans Learn to Harvest
« Reply #3005 on: November 08, 2024, 02:11:05 PM »
Reposted here:


Perhaps this would better live in a new “2026” thread, but I don’t want our esteemed Global Moderator’s head to explode so I’ll drop it here as a 2024 coda. FWIW I’ve heard that Presler is gay, which just goes to prove just how bigoted republicans are:



Don Surber




Republicans learned to ballot harvest
NOV 08, 2024

After the steal, I said learn to ballot harvest.

Republicans did.

They did their ballot harvesting legally and in front of the entire world. There were no midnight dumps of ballots from California into unattended ballot boxes. Vote tabulations did not suddenly change in the wee hours of the morning. Republicans read the rules, learned the rules and applied the rules in new ways.

Trump urged voters to vote early — to bank their votes as they say. Republican voters did. According to the New York Times, in 9 states more than half the ballots cast were cast before Election Day either by mail or in-person.

Trump won 8 of those 9 states, including Arizona, Georgia, Nevada and North Carolina, which were four of the seven swing states. The effort in North Carolina likely saved the state for Trump because of the extent of damage to western North Carolina due to Hurricane Helene.

Republicans began their harvest by signing up people to vote. Scott Presler became the Johnny Appleseed of voter registration, setting up shop in Pennsylvania where some trees from the seeds Appleseed sowed still bear fruit.

The Express Tribune called him an unsung hero, but Donald Trump knows who he is as do millions of us MAGAts.

But Presler did more than doggedly pursue people to register to vote.

The story said, “By connecting with Amish voters and emphasizing local issues, Presler is widely credited by Trump supporters as a key figure in helping secure Pennsylvania’s 19 electoral votes — pivotal in Trump’s anticipated return to the White House.”

Ah yes, the Amish. They drove their horse and buggies to the polls in, well, droves.

Just before the election, AP noticed this, and reported, “Researchers say most of the Amish don’t register to vote, reflective of the Christian movement’s historic separatism from mainstream society, just as they’ve maintained their dialect and horse-and-buggy transportation.

“But a small minority have voted, and the Amish are most numerous in the all-important swing state of Pennsylvania. So they’re being targeted this year in the latest of decades of efforts to register more of them to vote.

“Republicans are seeking their votes through billboards, ads, door-to-door canvassing and community meetings. Republican campaigners see the Amish as receptive to GOP talking points — smaller government, less regulation, religious freedom.”

The votes were there for the taking because of federal government overreach. God gave us many rights. Sometimes my favorite is the right to be left alone.

Another group Republicans tapped into were hunters and other gun owners. They too just want to be left alone. Surprisingly 10 million of them were not registered to vote, according to the American Hunter in August.

Its story said, “States with the most sportsmen not yet registered to vote in the upcoming Presidential election include Pennsylvania, with 515,277 and roughly a half million each in Georgia, Michigan, Missouri, North Carolina, Virginia and Wisconsin. The states with the fewest number of unregistered sportsmen and women are Arizona at 133,000, Nevada with 59,173 and Montana, 52,233.

“Election Day falls during the height of hunting seasons in many states, but sportsmen who act fast can qualify to cast their ballots absentee when they can’t make it to the polls. The Vote4America website offers a number of convenient links to register, check registration and more. It’s free and using its resources doesn’t require enrolling in another mailing list. Agreeing to its terms of service, however, is.”

Democrats did try to get the hunter vote by nominating Elmer Fudd for vice president. Unfortunately for him, he couldn’t even load his shotgun.


(Oh how I hated that dog in the 1980s.)

Early voting dropped off sharply this year compared to 2020 — for Democrats. Republicans however did better.

CNN reported, “Republicans have made up more of the pre-election vote than they did in 2020. The Trump campaign made more of an effort this year to encourage Republicans to vote early and by mail, a major shift from messaging against pre-election voting in 2020.

“Across the 27 states for which Catalist has comparable data, registered Democrats have cast 37% of pre-election ballots, while registered Republicans have cast 35%. That’s a significant tightening in the partisan gap since 2020, when, at the same point and in the same states, registered Democrats held a 12-percentage point lead — 42% to 30%.”

So a 12-point advantage for Democrats melted down to just 2 points.

The story also said, “In four of the seven key states that will likely decide the presidential election, voters register by party, and in every one of them, Republicans have made up a larger share of the pre-election vote than they did at the same time four years ago. Democrats in these states have overall decreased their share compared with 2020.

“In Arizona, 41% of pre-election voters have been Republican, a 4-point increase from 2020. Democrats have made up a share that’s 3 points less than it was four years ago, at 33%.”

So in Arizona, Republicans turned a 1 point advantage into 8 points. That’s good to know. And their efforts helped return Arizona back to the Republican fold.

Early voting flipped Nevada red in a presidential race for the first time in 20 years. Don’t get me wrong. Trump’s promise to end taxes on tips helped win votes in Las Vegas. Policy matters, but don’t discount the importance of the mechanics of an election.

In May, NBC derided the party, saying, “After years of railing against the practice of collecting and delivering other voters’ ballots, Republicans are vowing to mount their own ballot harvesting operation ahead of the 2024 presidential election.”

Given the Republican success on Tuesday, look for more success tomorrow. Presler has moved to Pennsylvania and has great plans for the Keystone State.

He told Benny Johnson, “We are not stopping for a second. I am more emboldened than ever and my goal is to ‘Florida’ Pennsylvania within the next few years.”

That is a well-earned nod to Ron DeSantis, an amazing man.

The world has changed. Get Out The Vote efforts have changed as well. GOTV no longer is just on Election Day but for an entire month or more. Adapt or die. Republicans chose to adapt.

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AZ Race Fraud?
« Reply #3006 on: November 09, 2024, 08:06:49 AM »
This report is on the breathless side, and dwells on 2020 and 2022 irregularities in a manner that could be called conflation, but this is likely worth keeping an eye on, particularly if Republicans indeed have more people in the field to document these chain of custody and other issues:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/send-us-marshals-arizona-officials-caught-changing-ballot/

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #3007 on: November 09, 2024, 09:15:30 AM »
I had become cynical about Kari, but maybe I need to reconsider.

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Big Fraud in CO?
« Reply #3008 on: November 09, 2024, 10:04:23 AM »

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #3009 on: November 09, 2024, 10:25:26 AM »
"I had become cynical about Kari, but maybe I need to reconsider."

me too

something about her schtick that gives me some indigestion.

Compare her to McCormick on recent Levin podcast who IS a class act and thanked Mark and his listeners for our support.



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Electoral process, "Majority Popular Vote", EV count 521-17
« Reply #3011 on: November 10, 2024, 07:07:39 AM »
Our pp predicted Trump would win 400 electoral votes. The final count was actually 312, uh, 521-17, after you grant the wish of the states who want their electoral votes to go to the winner of the national popular vote.

https://x.com/treblewoe/status/1854223085852881035

Correction, National Popular Vote people were just kidding, that was only to apply when it favors Democrats.
https://thedispatch.com/article/claims-suggesting-donald-trump-will-win-more-than-500-electoral-votes-are-false/

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #3012 on: November 10, 2024, 08:20:07 AM »
Nice zinger!

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Vote Fraud Hot Spot Links
« Reply #3013 on: November 10, 2024, 05:40:46 PM »
Well sourced look at 2020 vote fraud hot spots:

2020 Vote Fraud Summary
the Air Vent / by Jeff Id / Nov 10, 2024 at 12:09 PM
I’ve got a few detractors who like to take one point at a time about fraud and tell me I’m an idiot or whatever. I thought I would compile some of what I’ve discovered over the past four years.

My vote fraud journey has been complex and multi-layered. The 2020 election was rife with inconsistencies. Vote totals being changed, endless counting for days which was not the norm prior to that, last moment reversals toward the democrat party. Late night visits by white van in the TCF center was caught on video. A water main broke in Atlanta Georgia and counting stopped and observers were removed from the building. Pizza boxes were pressed to the window in the TCF center and observers were removed again. Observers that were allowed were required to stand 20 plus feet away in many cases and that led to the data.

My first post on this was in Pennsylvania where I discovered that the last18 ballot returns counted were all anomalously pro-biden returns and the returns stopped coming just after they flipped the state from Trump. Link here.

I began looking at the Edison data and found that Michigan had wildly fraudulent data returned from the TCF center in the single largest ballot dump in the state throwing 135,000 votes to Biden with near zero for Trump. This was absolute proof to me that the fraud was massive and real. Link here – I compare a clean voting state like Ohio with Michigan’s dirty vote. I also showed that the distribution after 3 am is dramatically different than the regular vote.

Then I began collecting massive amounts of election data. I spent days on it and weeks analyzing it. In Georgia, by subtracting previous years election data from 2020, I found that the Atlanta area had just four counties jump so hard democrat by adding more voters, that the shift in votes was 400,000 to nothing. Everywhere else in the state Trump added voters but not in Atlanta. Georgia regional vote fraud analysis link here.

I looked at every state for fraud fingerprints and placed a number of them together on this link.

Another look at the Michigan drops.

I had a previous compilation that I put online in 2023.

Images and videos:

Well after I had done that statistical analysis above, organizations began releasing video’s of people stuffing multiple ballots in drop boxes. I say with considerable tongue in cheek to my detractors that it is some coincidence that the locations of these video’s were Detroit Michigan and Atlanta Georgia. Again –these videos appeared after my purely numerical analyses identifying fraud were published on line.

Huge compilation of images of ballot mules.

Detroit video of ballot mule.

Detroit video of white van.

In Detroit, images of the same person coming back to drop stacks of ballots multiple times.

Detroit images of ballot mules.

Georgia True the Vote Cell tracking information and confession.

Maricopa ballot mules.

Maricopa unusual collection of ballot envelopes.

Maricopa ballot mules.

Mismatched Signatures

Signature match failures Georgia

Signature match failures Maricopa

Georgia multiple counts of same ballot.

More signature match failures.

Affidavits and Other Evidence

GBI strategies busted entering thousands of fraudulent registrations into Michigan record.

Never voted in an election.

Martin Luther King center for fraudulent ballot distribution tracked down.

Fulton Georgia didn’t check signatures.

Do I believe the Democrats committed widescale fraud in 2024? Yes I do, at this point I’m certain of it but my opinion is almost entirely based on 2020 and 2022, and can be changed as evidence is uncovered. First was trying to register my son for an absentee ballot while sending campaign materials with the application. This is illegal and was picked up as a story by Citizen Free Press. Then there were a number of ballot drops in the Detroit area which seemed suspicious. I have been unable to obtain the data and have requested to pay for it for a fourth time over the last four years from Edison Research so I can do no comparable analysis without it. I have no evidence to offer for 2024 other than a precipitous drop in Democrat vote totals and recent history, but I will be able to at least look at regional vote changes to find anomalies once the data is finalized.

https://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2024/11/10/2020-vote-fraud-summary/

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #3014 on: November 11, 2024, 06:45:04 AM »
Important work being done there.

Huge numbers of Americans sincerely believe the 2020 was honest and that Trump a sore loser, hence J6 was a "threat to democracy", he lost 60 court cases, etc etc.

Occam's razor says the crash in vote totals shows otherwise.  WELL SOURCED AND REASONED work that looks to genuinely communicate and not mock is vital in this moment.


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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #3016 on: November 11, 2024, 09:14:00 AM »
What a curious coincidence.

Playing this forward too.

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Re: voter ID and states where Harris won
« Reply #3017 on: November 11, 2024, 12:29:52 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/18-of-19-states-harris-won-appear-to-share-one-major-risk-to-election-integrity/ar-AA1tQTny?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=79d081c963e24054822e27a68bb8d692&ei=31

"Of the 19 states Harris won, 12 — California, Oregon, New Mexico, Minnesota, Illinois, Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Hawaii and Maryland — require no document to vote, according to the NCSL."

What a strange experience, to be checked in only needing to know my name and address, and to scribble a squiggly line with my finger on a screen that I, whoever I am, certify the information to be correct.

" We won't be using that here today", they said to my attempt to hold out identification.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #3018 on: November 11, 2024, 08:02:52 PM »
The 2020 election was STOLEN. Period. Robert Spencer has been making this case from the beginning. He asks an excellent question.
(Emphasis is mine.)

Where Are the Missing 11 Million Voters?
Time for a fearless investigation.

November 11, 2024 by Robert Spencer


As of this writing on Friday, Donald Trump’s popular vote total stood at 74,269,316. By the time you see this article and click on that link, however, that total is certain to be higher. Trump’s final popular vote total has now exceeded his official 2020 total of 74,225,926. Kamala Harris, meanwhile, has 68,800,347 popular votes, a steep decline from Old Joe Biden’s 2020 total of 81,286,454.

As Victoria Taft noted here, that raises a lot of uncomfortable questions about what exactly happened in 2020. Yet apparently oblivious to self-incrimination, even some leftists are asking what is going on — and, of course, blaming Trump.

That Trump would have gotten roughly the same number of votes in 2024 as he did in 2020 is perfectly reasonable. He is, thanks to the left’s relentless campaign of defamation, a highly controversial figure, and while the 2024 campaign certainly changed some people’s minds about him, it is no surprise that his base of support remained roughly the same size that it was the last time around.

But what about that massive drop-off between Old Joe, the most popular president in American history according to his vote total, and Kamala? Not only did eleven million voters not show up for Harris as they did for Biden, but they didn’t go anywhere. Not only did Kamala not get those votes, but there is no comparable increase in anyone else’s vote total.

Pam Keith, a far-left Democrat who ran a failed campaign for Congress from Florida in 2020, is one leftist who thinks all this is highly suspicious. On X, she reposted a conspiracy-minded leftist’s case for assuming that the eleven million missing votes are not, as is painfully obvious, proof that the 2020 election was indeed stolen, but of 2024 Trump ballot box chicanery: “What mystifies, enrages and terrifies me: His mention of not needing votes. His little secret w\ Mike Johnson. His low attended gibberish rallies. Her Monstrous crowds. Lines for hours to vote. Record turnout. And now we are just going to ‘pffft’ not count 20m votes. WTF!”

In stating that Trump mentioned “not needing votes,” the X user was referring to a conspiracy theory that Rachel Maddow pushed hard on MSNBC. Maddow claimed that Trump’s boasts about not needing votes—which was an obvious claim to having substantial enough support to win the election—were evidence that he planned to take power by other means, maybe, say, another “insurrection.” Now, her hysteria over Trump’s boasts has become part of the case for claiming that Bad Orange Man made all those Democrat votes disappear.

Pam Keith herself added: “The problem with our campaign post-mortem is that the result makes no sense and is likely fraudulent. But no one will do anything to ascertain what happened. So we are going to engage in recriminations and blame, when we did everything right and somehow 20 million votes evaporated. What we lost when Trump won the first time is normalcy. This time it will be so much worse. And the thing is, there is nothing for us to fix in what we did. We lead with inclusive and intelligent policy, and exceptional candidates. We had four years of stability and growth and decency, and now we will have none of that. What is the point about arguing what we will do in the next election? There isn’t going to be one. There isn’t going to be one.”

Keith’s fantasies about Biden’s success and paranoia about Trump’s alleged thirst to be a dictator aside, she has an excellent point. Someone should indeed do something to ascertain what happened to all those 2020 voters. Once Trump takes office again, he should invite Pam Keith to the White House and throw his support behind the idea of a full investigation of how it was that Old Joe Biden so far outpolled not only Kamala Harris but the sainted Barack Obama himself. The missing eleven million voters are likely to be dead by now — after all, they were when they voted — but a full investigation could proceed anyway.

For four years, it has been impossible even to ask questions about the 2020 election. Those who dared even to suggest that it may not actually have been the most secure election in history have been defamed as conspiracy theorists and deplatformed and silenced accordingly. Surely Pam Keith and other leftists who share her mindset must now be happy to join patriots in thinking that a monstrous injustice has been done, and that it must now be rectified with a searching and fearless investigation. No?
"You have enemies?  Good.  That means that you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #3019 on: November 12, 2024, 05:41:11 AM »
I would rather the piece had not focused on whacko Dem stuff, for the deep point is quite essential-- THE 2020 ELECTION WAS STOLEN.  Occam's Razor now says so.

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WSJ: Citizens United case helped Dems!
« Reply #3020 on: November 12, 2024, 08:03:03 AM »


Democrats took a pounding last week, but it could have been worse. The party was spared from an even bigger rout by their huge advantage in campaign spending, and for that they can thank their billionaire donors—and the Supreme Court they love to hate.


Kamala Harris raised more than $1 billion and spent more than $900 million, while the Trump campaign raised around $380 million and spent more than $350 million. In swing states Democrats had the edge in campaign spending across the board.

The margin was closest in Pennsylvania, where Democrats spent $109 million to Republicans’ $102 million. In Michigan Democrats spent $81 million to Republicans’ $18 million. In Wisconsin it was $49 million to $15 million, according to AdImpact. Mr. Trump won those states, but more narrowly than his advantage on the issues and the national turn to the right suggest he might have.

So-called independent expenditures outside the campaigns also broke records. Independent spending in all 2024 federal races was some $4.5 billion and flowed through Super Pacs allied with campaign operations, according to OpenSecrets. The Super Pacs in turn were often funded by 501(c)4s and other nonprofit groups, the “dark money” bogeymen of Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse’s nightmares. In key Senate races in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Montana, Arizona and others, independent spending by both sides ran into the tens of millions.

Looking at all federal campaign spending, Democrats beat out Republicans with some $4.5 billion in political ads compared with the GOP’s $3.5 billion. That included ad spending for presidential, congressional and down-ballot races including campaigns and independent spending. Democratic independent groups spent $2.4 billion while Republican independent groups spent $2.2 billion, according to AdImpact.

The great irony is that none of this would have been possible without Supreme Court decisions that have opened the door to more money in elections. McConnell v. FEC in 2003 cracked open the door by allowing political parties to coordinate with candidates and make unlimited independent expenditures. Citizens United v. FEC in 2010 allowed corporations and unions to spend money in elections. The D.C. Circuit’s decision in SpeechNow v. FEC in 2010 unleashed independent spending by Super Pacs.

The Court ruled that the First Amendment protects political speech, and spending on campaigns is a form of speech. If not for these rulings, which Democrats denounce every other day, Republicans would have bigger majorities in Congress. Funny how you don’t hear cries for “campaign finance reform” this year.

What other gifts might the current Supreme Court majority bestow upon Democrats? With Mr. Trump coming back to the White House, the left may learn to love the major questions doctrine, which requires clear direction from Congress on consequential regulations from the executive branch. Democrats raged against that ruling and the Supreme Court’s 6-2 decision striking down Chevron deference in Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo, which will also restrain Mr. Trump’s regulators.

Democrats will never admit it, but the Bush-Trump Justices will spare them from even greater political defeats.

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US Senate scoreboard
« Reply #3025 on: November 13, 2024, 04:37:00 AM »
At this point:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2024/senate/
4 seats flipped D to R, WV, MT, OH, PA, congratulations.

4 seats lost closely in states Trump won:
MI, WI, AZ, NV.

PA (Mccormick) was the closest race of those 8. Recount?

Of the 6 super close US Senate races, we won two and lost four. Those four (and the two wins) have consequences that last for years, decades for some.

Not to rain on the parade but there should be a little humility with this (partial) victory. With such stark choices, half the nation still identifies Democrat. They don't trust Republicans to govern and don't agree Democrat policies are the problem.

We have some work to do building trust, confidence and success. Not just getting the policies right but explaining and messaging that - against 90 percent negative media coverage against us.
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If there was cheating in WI (or anywhere), we better see people go to prison.

Years later is not the time to find conclusive evidence.  November 2024 is.
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« Reply #3026 on: November 13, 2024, 06:38:50 AM »
and now we will see him in the Senate

we have to stop promoting celebrities

such as Oz, Garvey, Herschel Walker.

Good people but not good candidates.

I admit not sure if any R could win in California anymore.

We did have Rino Arny but look at him now.

I think we performed only fairly in the Senate by getting to 52.  I was hoping for more.

Even Rino Hogan got creamed in Md.

Still not clear about Congress -

Agree with O'Reilly - Trump needs to send in the Department of Elections in these areas to find out why they can't count though in California I think they allowed collecting ballots for 7 days post election - what a scam.

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« Reply #3027 on: November 13, 2024, 08:18:17 AM »
"I think we performed only fairly in the Senate by getting to 52.  I was hoping for more."

53, I think. Great but still a missed opportunity, times 4. Plus two seats squandered in Georgia previously...

60 isn't in the cards at this point but 55 was doable and 57 was possible.

The same thing is true in the house but the individual seats are harder to track.

The 'Trump' win was a close sweep of all eight swing states, but the 'Republican' win in Congress was essentially a tie.

We are still a divided country and need to win over a few more percent while keeping the ones that we have.

For the incumbent party to gain in the next midterm will require magnificent, Reagan-like results. Very doable IMHO.

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« Reply #3028 on: November 13, 2024, 08:19:12 AM »
"we have to stop promoting celebrities such as Oz, Garvey, Herschel Walker. Good people but not good candidates."

Yes.  Trump bears a goodly piece of the blame here.   IMHO there is a certain amount of condescension in the thought process behind it-- analogous to what Kommiela's handlers did in her campaign.

My son is in LA area of CA.  He is very pumped by the results there.  Feels like a dam may have broken and that more people will have courage to speak up and to exert themselves.


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« Reply #3030 on: November 13, 2024, 02:27:27 PM »
I just posted that on my FB page and FB instantly deleted it!

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« Reply #3031 on: November 13, 2024, 02:34:34 PM »
I just posted that on my FB page and FB instantly deleted it!

And in doing so increasingly creeps toward irrelevance.

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« Reply #3032 on: November 13, 2024, 02:44:49 PM »
Unfortunately, in my personal case there are substantial barriers to for me.   I have invested a lot of effort there, and have a network of friends, contacts, etc. that are valuable to me.


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« Reply #3035 on: November 14, 2024, 04:23:42 PM »
Next time you hear aghast noise made about some sort of patent racial slur, keep this instance in mind and know it’s far from alone. Lotta formatting in the piece, probably best to click the link at the end:

Federal Threats / False Statements Indictment for "Hate Crime Hoax"
Three indicted for hate crime hoax
•The Volokh Conspiracy / by Eugene Volokh / Nov 14, 2024 at 3:16 PM
From Tuesday's press release by the U.S. Attorney's office in Colorado:

The United States Attorney's Office for the District of Colorado announces that Derrick Bernard Jr., 35, Ashely Blackcloud, 40, and Deanna West, 38, were indicted by a federal grand jury for maliciously conveying false information about a threat made by means of fire: a burning cross in front of a campaign sign defaced with a racial slur.

According to the indictment, the three defendants were charged for their alleged roles in a conspiracy to spread disinformation about the threat. The 2023 Colorado Springs mayoral run-off election involved Candidate 1, who was Black, and Candidate 2, who was white.  After the initial election but before the run-off, Bernard sent a message to the other defendants in which he explained he was "mobilizing my squad in defense. Black ops style big brother." He also sent messages referencing a desire to prevent "the klan" from gaining political control of the city. Bernard then worked with Blackcloud and West to stage, at an intersection in the City of Colorado Springs in the early hours of April 23, 2023, a cross burning in front of a campaign sign for Candidate 1 defaced with a racial slur. The three then allegedly spread false information about the event through an email from an anonymous source to various news and civic organizations.

From the indictment:

During the election, supporters of CANDIDATE 1 placed a campaign sign encouraging others to vote for CANDIDATE 1 in a grassy area on the northwest corner of the intersection of North Union Boulevard and East Fillmore Street, two of Colorado Springs's major traffic arteries. On or about April 23, 2023, between approximately 2:30 a.m. and 3:30 a.m. BERNARD, BLACKCLOUD, and WEST worked together to place a wooden cross in front of that campaign sign. Red spray paint, similar in kind to a can later found in the passenger compartment of BLACKCLOUD's car, was used to write the word "nigger" on the sign. The wooden cross was then set on fire….



[L]ater in the evening …, BLACKCLOUD and WEST worked together to send an email … to, among others, local broadcast news outlets. Attached to the email was the above photograph and the video[, which they themselves took]. Several news organizations published news stories on the cross burning.

The indictment also alleges other things the defendants did to further publicize the supposed "hate crime" that they themselves created.

All this, the prosecutors argue, constitutes a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 844(e) (as well as conspiracy to violate it):

Whoever, through the use of the mail, telephone, telegraph, or other instrument of interstate or foreign commerce, or in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce,

willfully makes any threat,

or maliciously conveys false information knowing the same to be false, concerning an attempt or alleged attempt being made, or to be made, to kill, injure, or intimidate any individual or unlawfully to damage or destroy any building, vehicle, or other real or personal property by means of fire or an explosive

shall be imprisoned for not more than 10 years or fined under this title, or both.

The post Federal Threats / False Statements Indictment for "Hate Crime Hoax" appeared first on Reason.com.

https://reason.com/volokh/2024/11/14/federal-threats-false-statements-indictment-for-hate-crime-hoax/




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« Reply #3039 on: November 15, 2024, 03:26:02 PM »
 :-o :-o :-o

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Big win for voter ID in CA
« Reply #3040 on: November 17, 2024, 04:48:44 AM »

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« Reply #3042 on: November 19, 2024, 07:47:06 PM »
So the stuff that honest and truly didn’t occur in 2020 is actually occurring as people are bearing witness to it in real time:

https://pjmedia.com/victoria-taft/2024/11/19/do-you-want-to-see-how-elections-are-stolen-watch-pennsylvania-n4934446

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« Reply #3043 on: November 20, 2024, 01:28:11 PM »

https://patriotpost.us/alexander/112180?mailing_id=8816...
Trump Day 1: Demolish the Demos' Rigged Midterm Election Strategy

There is an irrefutable correlation between the states Harris/Walz won and voter ID requirements.
Mark Alexander

"We should be unfaithful to ourselves if we should ever lose sight of the danger to our liberties if anything partial or extraneous should infect the purity of our free, fair, virtuous, and independent elections." —John Adams (1797)

Two weeks after the biggest comeback in presidential history, I am still amazed that Donald Trump and JD Vance pulled it off. And they did so with expanding margins among unexpected voter constituencies.

But all the elation and relief aside, on Monday, January 20, 2025, day one of the next Trump administration, Republicans must disable the Democrats' corrupt election strategy ahead of the 2026 midterm elections and the 2028 Vance presidential campaign.

Trump and Congress must singularly focus on defusing this threat.

Demos rigged the election process in 2020, and they believed their three-part strategy would set up a sure win for the Harris/Walz ticket this year.

First, they used their deep state assets to set up Trump for a plethora of lawfare prosecutions.

Second, over the last four years, they have orchestrated a massive effort to suppress conservative speech by collaborating with their Leftmedia publicists and social media platforms in order to keep a chokehold on public opinion.

Third, they have perfected their bulk-mail ballot fraud strategy, promoting the counting of millions of unauthenticated ballots cast by mail and in person in states that do not require voter ID. That strategy accounted for the Biden/Harris 2020 win by a popular vote margin of more than seven million votes, and they assumed it would get Harris and Walz across the finish line again.

It is this third issue that Republicans must address first because there is a direct and irrefutable correlation between the states Harris/Walz won and voter ID requirements.

Demos had good reason to assume their 2020 fraud would work again: Of the votes cast then, 43% (66 million ballots) were by mail — and a majority of those were in states where authentication of the person receiving and casting the ballot was not required. More than 58% of Biden/Harris ballots, almost 47 million votes, were cast by mail.

Got that?

Demos believe their bulk-mail ballot fraud strategy, devoid of voter ID requirements, will enable them to perpetuate permanent majority control of the executive and legislative branches — and, ultimately, state governments nationwide. If left unchecked, this systemic election corruption will become virtually impossible to undo. That is to say, Republicans must use their majority tenure this coming year to stop this strategy. Or else.

Fortunately, the Demos' fraud strategy had a BIG problem: The Harris/Walz ticket was weak and uninspiring.

That ticket was an extension of the abysmal Biden/Harris record of domestic and foreign policy failures. It could not compete with the reality of Trump's record of domestic and foreign policy successes.

And they could not cultivate trust beyond their base that Harris was not Biden 2.0. Kamala Harris has a long and prolific record of lying, as does her sidekick Tim Walz, particularly regarding his stolen valor record.

Thus, the triad of corrupt Demo machinations could not overcome the Biden/Harris/Walz liabilities. Consequently, there were seven million fewer Demo ballots cast in 2024 than were cast in 2020.

The result was that Trump and Vance won the Electoral College 312 to 226, with, as of this writing, 76,792,000 to 74,238,000 votes. Thanks to a good GOP ground game (finally) and early voting, the Trump/Vance ticket got almost 2.6 million more votes this year than Trump/Pence received in 2020 — and won six more Electoral College votes than Biden/Harris in 2020 (312 to 306).

The Trump/Vance victory is a testament, first and foremost, to a groundswell of grassroots American Patriots who supported them. You know, those voters broad-brushed as "bitter, deplorable, racist, misogynist, fascist, garbage"!

That being said, despite all the proclamations to the contrary, the Trump/Vance win was not a "landslide victory" supporting a "clear mandate." This was no Ronald Reagan 1984 landslide reelection, in which he won 49 states and a record 525 electoral votes.

In fact, today, the Trump/Vance popular vote total dropped below the 50% mark.

Here's why defusing the Demos' bulk-mail ballot fraud strategy first thing is so important.

Looking at the maps in the image above, here is what you need to know.

Of all the states Harris won, only two, New Hampshire and Rhode Island, require a photo ID to vote. Several states she won require or make optional a non-photo ID.

But get this: More than 60 million of the 161 million registered voters in the U.S. in 2024 live in states that require NO voter identification/authentication — zero, none — to ensure who is actually casting that ballot. Almost all of those voters are, of course, in Democrat-controlled states.

Look at those maps again — because short of legislative correction, Democrats are poised to retake the House and Senate in 2026, and running a younger and more charismatic ticket in 2028 will make them difficult to beat. That is the hard reality.
Since 2020, some states have strengthened their election integrity requirements, including mandating voter IDs.

Moreover, in July of this year, as a first step toward federal election integrity, the House successfully passed the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act to ensure only U.S. citizens vote in federal elections, with five Democrats voting with Republicans. Apparently, there are five House Democrats who still possess a modicum of integrity.

Of course, the Biden/Harris administration issued a strong condemnation of the SAVE Act because Democrats know that, as aforementioned, the perpetuation of their political party control depends on opposing any and all voter ID requirements.

Biden continues to claim, as he has for years, that requiring a voter ID is an "attempt to repress minority voting." His corrupt attorney general, Merrick Garland, likewise declared this year, "That is why we are challenging efforts by states and jurisdictions to implement discriminatory, burdensome, and unnecessary restrictions on access to the ballot, including those related to mail-in voting, the use of drop boxes, and voter ID requirements."

Democrats label any measure to authenticate who is voting as "racist," "voter intimidation," and "voter suppression" while mislabeling their systemic voter fraud proposals as "voter rights."

However, combined with Biden's bulk voter registration mandate, the Demos' bulk-mail ballot fraud is a slam dunk with qualified candidates.

Trump will have to be careful with overreach, but I believe if he manages the next two years well, Republicans can rally a broader swath of America to the conservative side of the ledger and pave the path for a larger Vance victory in 2028.
Republicans must make demolishing the Demos' ballot fraud strategy a high priority now.