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Re: Shifting States' borders
« Reply #150 on: January 30, 2021, 05:50:43 PM »
I think when the shooting stops and the smoke clears, some new maps will be required.


https://bigleaguepolitics.com/let-freedom-ring-secession-fever-sweeps-across-america-as-biden-regime-loses-legitimacy/

If Counties could leave Colorado, Wyoming would double in size and Denver-Boulder would be a city-state.

That sounds like a good thing, right?  Wouldn't both sides largely be happier?

I would like to see city and county lines moved too.

While we are at it, how about 2 US Senators each for Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba, plus the interior of British Columbia.
https://www.mackinac.org/forget-greenland-trump-should-offer-statehood-to-these-canadian-provinces


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Re: Shifting States' borders
« Reply #152 on: February 24, 2021, 10:24:09 AM »
https://mises.org/wire/some-coloradoans-want-break-and-join-wyoming-they-should-least-get-vote-it

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/let-freedom-ring-secession-fever-sweeps-across-america-as-biden-regime-loses-legitimacy/

If Counties could leave Colorado, Wyoming would double in size and Denver-Boulder would be a city-state.

That sounds like a good thing, right?  Wouldn't both sides largely be happier?

I would like to see city and county lines moved too.

While we are at it, how about 2 US Senators each for Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba, plus the interior of British Columbia.
https://www.mackinac.org/forget-greenland-trump-should-offer-statehood-to-these-canadian-provinces

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Nullification
« Reply #153 on: March 03, 2021, 05:07:21 AM »


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Re: Idaho-Oregon
« Reply #155 on: April 19, 2021, 04:36:20 PM »

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Re: Tenth/10th Amendment: States Rights
« Reply #156 on: April 20, 2021, 06:44:23 AM »
What is your thinking on a Senator being included with the deal?






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Stephen Moore E-Letter
« Reply #162 on: February 23, 2023, 05:04:14 PM »
3) Can Oregon Counties Secede To Join Idaho?

The attempts by some rural residents of deep blue states to merge with more simpatico states on their border shows a big sign of their frustration and a serious commentary on how misgoverned some states are.

Oregon’s 11 most eastern counties are furious that “woke” Portland and the university town of Eugene dominate the state’s politics (Republicans have not elected a governor in 40 years). They say their communities are shortchanged and ignored. Every one of the 11 counties involved has passed referendums calling for a merger with neighboring Idaho.

Last week, the Idaho House of Representatives passed a nonbinding memorial calling for formal talks between the Idaho and Oregon legislatures to discuss the merger.

Oregon Sen. Dennis Linthicum of Klamath Falls says his colleagues will want to ignore the move, but they do so at the risk of completely alienating eastern Oregon.

For her part, Idaho state Rep. Judy Boyle says there are practical reasons for her state to back a merger. She says it could reduce the volume of illegal drugs coming into her state from Oregon, which has abolished many of its narcotics laws.

Idaho’s Democratic House Minority Leader Ilana Rubel says the idea is crazy and called it “self-segregating by ideology.”

Yes, that’s exactly what is happening in America. The people in rural eastern Oregon are outvoted by the woke progressives in Portland - who have adopted inane crime, homeless and tax policies almost intentionally designed to drive its middle class as far from the madness of Portlandia as they can get.

For the record, we are all for redrawing state lines so that citizens have self-determination and can escape from progressive tyranny. 
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Greater Idaho
« Reply #164 on: February 28, 2023, 07:33:26 PM »

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Abbott, States Rights, & the Compact
« Reply #167 on: February 07, 2024, 11:04:30 PM »
I wonder how SCOTUS originalists view the argument outlined below.

States’ Rights Resurgence: Greg Abbott and the Constitutional Compact

The Beacon / by William J. Watkins / February 07, 2024 at 06:14PM

I am generally a fan of Texas Governor Greg Abbott’s sparring with the Biden administration over the collapse of the southern border. As noted by the House Oversight Committee, “The Biden Administration sparked the worst border crisis in American history and placed Americans’ lives at risk by abandoning deterrent-focused immigration policies and proven border enforcement tools.” Estimates differ, but at least 10 million illegal aliens have entered the United States during Biden’s term in office. As I have pointed out elsewhere, although we assume the federal government is constitutionally entitled to superintend immigration matters, the Constitution is—at a minimum—murky on this matter.

Greg Abbott—perhaps to his detriment—takes the position that the federal government is in charge of immigration but protests that federal officials refuse to enforce the law. This refusal, he contends, has left Texas at the mercy of invaders. By describing the swarms as “invaders,” Abbott invokes Article I, § 10, Clause 3, which prohibits states from engaging in war absent an invasion or other imminent danger. Abbott obviously believes that invoking that constitutional provision will yield better results than challenging federal power over immigration.

With Abbott’s efforts, are we seeing a resurgence in states’ rights? Maybe. But Abbott needs to be careful as he appeals to state powers to control the federal government. For example, in a proclamation issued on January 24, 2024, Abbott asserts, “The federal government has broken the compact between the United States and the States.” This sounds like the sweet music of Jeffersonian constitutional theory to the untrained ear. (And most Americans, unfortunately, have untrained ears regarding state and federal relations.)

But this lead statement of the proclamation is wrong. The federal government is not a party to the constitutional compact. The states are. The federal government is merely an agent of the contracting parties. To borrow from agency law, the states are the principals, and the federal government is an agent exercising only those powers the principals have delegated. “The Federal and State Governments are in fact but different agents and trustees of the people,” Madison wrote in Federalist No. 46, “instituted with different powers, and designated for different purposes.”

Jefferson described the constitutional structure in his Kentucky Resolution of 1798: “that to this compact each State acceded as a State, and is an integral party, its co-States forming, as to itself, the other party.” The states, Jefferson observed, “constituted a general Government for special purposes,—delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving, each State to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government.” Similarly, James Madison averred in the Virginia Resolution of 1798 that “this Assembly doth explicitly and peremptorily declare that it views the powers of the Federal Government as resulting from the compact, to which the States are parties, as limited by the plain sense and intention of the instrument constituting that compact; as no further valid than they are authorized by the grants enumerated in that compact.”

A proper view of the constitutional compact would strengthen Abbott’s hand if he decided to push matters further. And he just might have popular support to do so. Polls show that immigration is the number one voter concern in 2024. In pending litigation, the federal courts will ultimately tell Texas to stand down and allow the Biden administration to make decisions on immigration matters.

Under the real compact theory, the courts would not be the final word. Based on the equality of the states, Jefferson contended in the Kentucky Resolution that “each party [to the compact] has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress.” In defending the Virginia Resolutions in his Report of 1800, Madison reasoned that “[t]he states then being the parties to the constitutional compact, and in their sovereign capacity, it follows of necessity that there can be no tribunal above their authority to decide in the last resort whether the compact made by them be violated.” In other words, the compact theory denies that any branch of the federal government has the final authority to judge the extent of federal power.

While generations of lawyers have been taught that the Supreme Court is the final arbiter of the Constitution, under the compact theory, this is absurd. No agent (and the federal courts are agents of the states) has the power to instruct the principal on the scope of the agent’s authority. For a thorough discussion of this, see my article in the Duke Journal of Constitutional Law and Public Policy. Under the historical compact theory, Abbott could consider interposition, nullification, and other options depending on the mood of the people and the worsening of the immigration crisis. As chronicled in Chapter 4 of my book Reclaiming the American Revolution: The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions and Their Legacy, multiple states in both the North and South have appealed to the historical compact theory when combatting measures of the national government.

Governor Abbott should be applauded for his efforts on the southern border. However, he should also take a closer look at Jeffersonian constitutionalism and the proper role of the states as parties to the compact.

The post States’ Rights Resurgence: Greg Abbott and the Constitutional Compact appeared first on The Beacon.

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Re: Tenth/10th Amendment: States Rights
« Reply #168 on: February 08, 2024, 01:57:07 PM »
Interesting, erudite, and long since rejected.

As I have posted here previously, controlling here is US v Arizona (2012) with took a strong line asserting federal primacy in immigration law.

By asserting invasion -- quite properly!!!-- Abbot has a strong argument to distinguish himself from the Arizona decision and a C'l basis for telling our traitorous President and the Feds to buzz off. 

What is Magoo to do now?  Jack boot his way over the Texas Rangers and the Texas National Guard?  With the whole country/the whole world watching to cut through the wire and wave through additional waves of illegals as he runs for President?

He can't-- in his game of chicken with Abbot he has already flinched.

Highly dubious SCOTUS will want to get into this (political question doctrine) -- and certainly not before the election!!!

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Pressures for Secession growing
« Reply #169 on: February 17, 2024, 09:12:33 AM »

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Feds vs States' water rights
« Reply #170 on: March 11, 2024, 11:20:53 AM »
(2) BIDEN ADMIN INVOKES FEDERAL WATER RIGHTS OVER STATE: Georgia State University law professor Ryan Rowberry said the Biden administration’s unprecedented enforcement of federal water rights at Georgia’s Okefenokee Wildlife Refuge will force states to comply with federal rights over state waterways.
Mining company Twin Pines attorney Lewis Jones said the Biden administration has no legal basis for enforcing federal water rights in eastern states.
Why It Matters: The Biden administration invoking federal water rights over Georgia waterways that flow through the Okefenokee federal land will likely set a precedent the current and future administrations will use to exercise power over state waterways. If the water security situation in the U.S. continues to worsen, with major droughts in the Colorado River Basin and the pending collapse of the Ogallala Aquifer, the federal government could use this precedent to take control of state waterways with the justification that they flow into federal land. – R.C.