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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #700 on: December 15, 2021, 08:07:19 AM »
I was hoping to avoid the $500 I was quoted for a RE lawyer, but you are making good sense.

I could help you find a template of wording for a contract but I would hate to see something go wrong.
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« Reply #701 on: December 15, 2021, 03:39:23 PM »
It could help me evaluate what the lawyer would put in front of me so it would be greatly appreciated. (i.e. no reliance upon you)

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« Reply #702 on: February 15, 2022, 08:10:09 AM »
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A handful of years ago, you could be forgiven for thinking that the Chinese were taking over the U.S. real estate market.

Reports abounded of Chinese buyers pouring tens of billions of dollars per year into American property, seeking a safe haven for their wealth by snapping up everything from luxury condos in downtown Los Angeles to colonial homes along the affluent North Shore of Long Island, New York.

The COVID-19 crisis brought much of that activity to a standstill, but Chinese investment actually peaked around 2017 and started to slump long before the virus entered the scene. Thanks to increased regulatory scrutiny and a web of cross-border restrictions, Chinese purchases of American homes may not recover anytime soon. That’s probably good news for the U.S. housing market.

The Biden administration’s drive to combat money laundering in real estate underscores how the environment is changing for Chinese homebuyers. The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN), a bureau of the U.S. Treasury, on Feb. 3 renewed its call for public comment on a proposed rule that would ramp up oversight of all-cash home purchases.

Under current regulations, title insurance companies must identify the individuals behind shell companies that make all-cash purchases of residential real estate in 12 major metropolitan areas if the transaction exceeds $300,000. FinCEN seeks to expand these reporting requirements as part of a broader crackdown on money laundering and other illicit activity.

“Our real estate markets are at risk of becoming a safe haven for criminals, kleptocrats and others seeking to park corrupt profits,” Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Wally Adeyemo said last December, when the proposed rule change was first announced.

Although the Treasury isn’t singling out Chinese homebuyers, it’s widely believed that many high-ranking officials of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) launder illicit funds by purchasing expensive real estate in the United States.

For example, former Chinese official Jianjun Qiao and his ex-wife Shilin Zhao have both pleaded guilty to federal charges related to a scheme in which Qiao allegedly stole millions of dollars as the director of a grain storehouse in Henan Province. The funds were used, among other things, to buy two properties in Monterey Park, California, and a half-million-dollar house in the Seattle suburb of Newcastle, Washington.

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A general view of the Seattle Skyline and Mount Rainier from Kerry Park in Seattle, Washington, on June 9, 2019. (Donald Miralle/Getty Images for Rock’n’Roll Marathon)
There’s no reason to think that most Chinese cash buyers are involved in money laundering, but enhanced federal scrutiny would likely snag more transactions. According to a report by think tank Global Financial Integrity, of the 23,659 real estate sales reported under FinCEN rules as of August 2019, 37 percent involved a person who was the subject of a Suspicious Activity Report, a tool that real estate professionals can use to flag potential money laundering or fraud.

Chinese homebuyers (and those from Hong Kong and Taiwan) also tend to pay in cash far more often than American homebuyers and to buy pricier homes than other foreign homebuyers, so stricter rules on large cash transactions would create yet more friction for a group already shackled by domestic capital controls.

The main bottleneck is on the other side of the Pacific. The CCP, through new currency controls imposed in 2017 and 2019, has made it dramatically harder for citizens to move their money overseas to buy real estate. Perhaps not coincidentally, Chinese investment in U.S. housing peaked at $31.7 billion during the 12 months ending March 2017, according to data from the National Association of Realtors (NAR).

By 2019, annual investment by this group—which NAR defines to include buyers from Hong Kong and Taiwan—had tumbled to $13.4 billion. The COVID shutdowns slashed that number to $4.5 billion in the year ending March 2021—a plunge of 61 percent from the previous year. Chinese-speaking buyers remained the leading foreign homebuyers measured by dollar amount, a title they’ve held since 2013.

Some hoped that the U.S. government’s lifting of COVID-era travel restrictions on dozens of countries, including China, last November would bring eager Chinese homebuyers back to the U.S. market. But the crusade against a respiratory virus continues to strangle global travel.

The United States tightened COVID testing requirements just a month after it dropped the travel ban, while China virtually stopped issuing new passports last August. Onerous testing and quarantine rules await any traveler that returns to China. How long these types of restrictions will continue to weigh on international travel is anyone’s guess.


It’s easy to exaggerate the impact of foreign homebuyers, who at last count made up only 2.8 percent of America’s nearly $2 trillion in annual home sales. Still, the long retreat of Chinese house hunters removes a potential source of pressure on the overheated U.S. market, where home prices have surged more than 30 percent since 2019 and inventory is at a record low.

For the time being, America’s would-be homeowners have bigger worries than competing with cashed-up Chinese buyers, but conditions could worsen if Chinese capital surges back.

A 2020 paper by Caitlin Gorback and Benjamin Keys of the Wharton School of Business found that U.S. home prices grew 8 to 15 percentage points more in zip codes with high numbers of foreign-born Chinese after 2011, a trend that fell sharply since 2018 amid tightening capital controls and the U.S.-China trade war.

“From an affordability standpoint, these neighborhoods are less accessible to existing U.S. residents as prices rise due to foreign investment,” the authors noted.

Views expressed in this article are the opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

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Housing, Mortgage rates and debt, Real Estate prices, what could go wrong?
« Reply #703 on: March 25, 2022, 08:03:19 AM »
Excerpt only, subscribe or read at Financial Times ft.com.

Establishment, non-panic analysis, my comments here and below.

One of my assessments went up 40% this year.  One HOA cost went up 50%.  What do they mean by "unsustainable"?  (Doug)
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  FT:  Until recently, mortgage holders across advanced economies seemed safe in the knowledge that interest rates would stay put for some time. For the entirety of some of their lives as homeowners, there has barely been a hint of problematic inflation, let alone a suggestion that central banks would raise rates quickly to stop it. The worry was not unmanageable repayments, or falling prices, but finding enough money for a deposit to keep up with a market that showed no signs of slowing.

Many now find themselves revising these expectations. The Bank for International Settlements — the so-called central bankers’ central bank — has warned that rising interest rates could make existing debt burdens difficult to cope with and cause house prices to fall. Some have wondered whether housing debt represents the next “Minsky moment”: a term used to denote the point at which debt-fuelled asset bubbles unwind to cause economic collapse.

Much ink has been spilled in an effort to explain the long housing boom in advanced economies. The availability of cheap money with which to buy property has undoubtedly been a significant factor. Rates have been kept low in an effort to boost wages and growth. The side effect of these measures has been turbocharged demand for housing which ran head-on into supply constraints in many big cities.

If this boom is about to meet its own “Minsky moment”, an out-and-out crisis should be avoidable. While some banks could be overexposed to housing, regulators have not been ignorant to this risk. Stricter capital requirements should better insulate banks — unlike in 2008 — while some authorities have also been on the front foot, restricting the ability of households to become too highly leveraged.

Still, regulators cannot afford to be sanguine. Many mortgage borrowers who purchased over the course of the boom will be in significant debt — keeping up with house price inflation has been costly. While these high-leverage loans may not make up a large proportion of banks’ books, they are the kind that could go bad as borrowers struggle to keep up with higher rates, record increases in energy prices and other cost-of-living pressures.

Even if broader financial turbulence can be avoided, falling prices would not pass by without any impact. Economists have long speculated that households’ willingness to spend has some relationship to wealth as well as income. If house prices fall markedly, some decline in consumption is likely. Any shortfall in spending due to this so-called “wealth effect” may also be exacerbated by individuals devoting a greater proportion of their income to debt repayments as rates rise, and less to purchasing goods and services in the broader economy. Unwinding housing bubbles can also have deep ramifications in communities where defaults, or mortgage stress, may be more concentrated.

There are more benign possibilities. If inflation is brought under control, increases to long-term rates — which tend to inform mortgage rates — may be tempered. Many households could cope in this situation by using the buffer of savings they accrued during the pandemic. House prices may not fall as far as feared, or even at all.
 (Doug:  or prices may fall - drastically, for the reasons stated above and below.)

That does not mean the risks are not real. Supporting growth and staving off economic crisis through years of “cheap money” was an understandable choice. As a new age of monetary tightening dawns, central banks and governments alike must hope that the housing debt built up in the previous era does not weigh too heavily on the prospects of the next.
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Simple math.  Majority of home purchases are mortgage-based.  In a mortgage-based purchase, a person or couple (hopefully) have savings and income, often large but almost always limited. The price is constrained by down payment and monthly, which is mostly interest, and affected by the psychology of how these constraints are hitting other buyers. Skyrocketing property taxes are another payment constraint, PITI, which are no longer FULLY income tax deductible.

What could go wrong.
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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #706 on: March 31, 2022, 08:04:47 AM »
Doug:

That seems like a calm, measured analysis.

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Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate, New study on rent control, Thomas Sowell
« Reply #707 on: April 14, 2022, 12:20:23 PM »
"to the extent that rent control is intended to transfer wealth from high-income to low-income households, the realized impact of the law was the opposite of its intention.”

https://www.based-politics.com/2022/04/13/st-paul-rent-control-scheme-totally-backfired-and-hurt-the-poor-study/

 

It was shocking front-page news in San Francisco when the courts ruled recently that landlords had a right to stop renting property they owned, despite local rent-control laws to the contrary. Needless to say, there are rumblings of an appeal.

One San Francisco supervisor lamented a "shortage of even semi-affordable housing" in the city, which is "a real crisis." There was no indication of any awareness that rent-control laws have caused housing shortages wherever they have been imposed, whether in Hong Kong or Paris, New York or Melbourne.

Sometimes, rent-control advocates claim that there was already a housing shortage and that rent-control laws were enacted to keep landlords from taking advantage of the situation by "gouging" tenants. But history says otherwise.

New York City had a high vacancy rate when rent-control laws were first passed, early in World War II. A housing shortage then developed and became a lasting part of the New York way of life.

Housing shortages, like other shortages, are too often thought of as a physically inadequate amount, either absolutely or relative to the population. It is neither. It is an inability to obtain the desired amount at the current price.

Ordinarily, in a free market, such a situation leads to a rise in price, which simultaneously reduces the amount demanded and encourages an increase in the amount supplied, until the two come into balance. Price controls prevent that rise in price from changing the behavior of suppliers and demanders, so the shortage persists.

Rent control in Sweden was a classic example of a price-induced shortage without any greater physical scarcity. After rent-control laws were enacted during World War II, Sweden began having housing shortages - and began a massive program of government-sponsored building of housing. At one time, Sweden had the most rapidly growing housing stock in the world - and yet the waiting lists for applicants for housing grew longer.

There was more housing per person but, at the artificially low price of housing, rising incomes allowed increasing numbers of people to afford ever-increasing amounts of housing space. For example, many young adults who would normally be living with their parents rented their own rent-controlled apartments instead.

In short, the amount of housing space demanded at artificially low prices vastly exceeded even the rapidly increasing housing supply. The fact that there was plenty of housing in Sweden was dramatically revealed when the rent-control laws were repealed. Immediately there was a housing surplus.

As rents rose to levels determined by supply and demand, private builders found it profitable to start constructing housing. Since privately constructed housing was built to suit the tastes of tenants and homeowners, rather than government planners, many people moved out of the government-built housing, leaving vast numbers of vacancies.

Like other laws keeping prices below the level produced by supply and demand, rent control leads not only to a shortage of the product but also to a deterioration in its quality. This has happened not only with housing but also with cable television service, medical care and other goods and services.

Yet it always seems to come as a big surprise to politicians, journalists and others for whom indignation is a way of life. Across the Bay from San Francisco, Oakland officials are waxing indignant at landlords for neglecting maintenance on rent-controlled apartments. Inadequate maintenance of course speeds the deterioration of the existing housing stock, while rent control discourages building replacements. The net result can be a declining housing stock and higher rents in the long run. But who in politics worries about the long run?

California prides itself on being on the cutting edge of new advances. Unfortunately, many of these new advances are in fact retreats to old ideas that have failed repeatedly - but whose failures are unknown to those who are so modern that they disdain to study history. Two thousand years ago, when Roman emperor Diocletian issued a sweeping edict controlling the prices of innumerable goods, "people brought provisions no more to markets," as a contemporary put it.

What is happening in California's rent-controlled housing is as predictable as the swallows returning to Capistrano - but not nearly as attractive
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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate, New study on rent control, Thomas Sowell
« Reply #708 on: April 14, 2022, 01:34:50 PM »
That wasn’t real rent control!


"to the extent that rent control is intended to transfer wealth from high-income to low-income households, the realized impact of the law was the opposite of its intention.”

https://www.based-politics.com/2022/04/13/st-paul-rent-control-scheme-totally-backfired-and-hurt-the-poor-study/

 

It was shocking front-page news in San Francisco when the courts ruled recently that landlords had a right to stop renting property they owned, despite local rent-control laws to the contrary. Needless to say, there are rumblings of an appeal.

One San Francisco supervisor lamented a "shortage of even semi-affordable housing" in the city, which is "a real crisis." There was no indication of any awareness that rent-control laws have caused housing shortages wherever they have been imposed, whether in Hong Kong or Paris, New York or Melbourne.

Sometimes, rent-control advocates claim that there was already a housing shortage and that rent-control laws were enacted to keep landlords from taking advantage of the situation by "gouging" tenants. But history says otherwise.

New York City had a high vacancy rate when rent-control laws were first passed, early in World War II. A housing shortage then developed and became a lasting part of the New York way of life.

Housing shortages, like other shortages, are too often thought of as a physically inadequate amount, either absolutely or relative to the population. It is neither. It is an inability to obtain the desired amount at the current price.

Ordinarily, in a free market, such a situation leads to a rise in price, which simultaneously reduces the amount demanded and encourages an increase in the amount supplied, until the two come into balance. Price controls prevent that rise in price from changing the behavior of suppliers and demanders, so the shortage persists.

Rent control in Sweden was a classic example of a price-induced shortage without any greater physical scarcity. After rent-control laws were enacted during World War II, Sweden began having housing shortages - and began a massive program of government-sponsored building of housing. At one time, Sweden had the most rapidly growing housing stock in the world - and yet the waiting lists for applicants for housing grew longer.

There was more housing per person but, at the artificially low price of housing, rising incomes allowed increasing numbers of people to afford ever-increasing amounts of housing space. For example, many young adults who would normally be living with their parents rented their own rent-controlled apartments instead.

In short, the amount of housing space demanded at artificially low prices vastly exceeded even the rapidly increasing housing supply. The fact that there was plenty of housing in Sweden was dramatically revealed when the rent-control laws were repealed. Immediately there was a housing surplus.

As rents rose to levels determined by supply and demand, private builders found it profitable to start constructing housing. Since privately constructed housing was built to suit the tastes of tenants and homeowners, rather than government planners, many people moved out of the government-built housing, leaving vast numbers of vacancies.

Like other laws keeping prices below the level produced by supply and demand, rent control leads not only to a shortage of the product but also to a deterioration in its quality. This has happened not only with housing but also with cable television service, medical care and other goods and services.

Yet it always seems to come as a big surprise to politicians, journalists and others for whom indignation is a way of life. Across the Bay from San Francisco, Oakland officials are waxing indignant at landlords for neglecting maintenance on rent-controlled apartments. Inadequate maintenance of course speeds the deterioration of the existing housing stock, while rent control discourages building replacements. The net result can be a declining housing stock and higher rents in the long run. But who in politics worries about the long run?

California prides itself on being on the cutting edge of new advances. Unfortunately, many of these new advances are in fact retreats to old ideas that have failed repeatedly - but whose failures are unknown to those who are so modern that they disdain to study history. Two thousand years ago, when Roman emperor Diocletian issued a sweeping edict controlling the prices of innumerable goods, "people brought provisions no more to markets," as a contemporary put it.

What is happening in California's rent-controlled housing is as predictable as the swallows returning to Capistrano - but not nearly as attractive

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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate, Same payment, less house
« Reply #709 on: May 03, 2022, 12:14:56 PM »
"the nationwide average rate on 30-yr fixed rate mortgages. It has surged from 3% to now 5.25% in a very short period"   - Scott Grannis

Take the median mortgage at 400,000.  3%,  30 year fixed  Principle plus interest = 1700

Now take the same monthly payment with mortgage interest rates at 6%.  The loan amount is only 280,000. 

Rough calculation:  The value of real estate in mortgage-based transactions needs to drop 30% to reach the same affordability.

Now note that property taxes are going up by 10% per year and more.  That affordability level drops further and further - unless and until wage gains keep up with everything else rising.

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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate, Same payment, less house
« Reply #710 on: May 03, 2022, 12:19:20 PM »
I hear a bubble popping.

"the nationwide average rate on 30-yr fixed rate mortgages. It has surged from 3% to now 5.25% in a very short period"   - Scott Grannis

Take the median mortgage at 400,000.  3%,  30 year fixed  Principle plus interest = 1700

Now take the same monthly payment with mortgage interest rates at 6%.  The loan amount is only 280,000. 

Rough calculation:  The value of real estate in mortgage-based transactions needs to drop 30% to reach the same affordability.

Now note that property taxes are going up by 10% per year and more.  That affordability level drops further and further - unless and until wage gains keep up with everything else rising.

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stephen moore warns of housing pop
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Housing, Rents rising
« Reply #715 on: August 07, 2022, 07:17:36 AM »
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rent-apartments-rising-housing-market-us/

(The more government messes with housing, the less affordable it gets.)

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« Reply #716 on: August 26, 2022, 03:08:37 PM »

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Rent Forever and Love It
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The globalized commodification of housing will destroy democracy.

Housing is an industry, but it is also where people live, raise families, and stake their future. Yet increasingly, all around the world, housing has increasingly become just a commodity to be traded, often by foreigner investors, notably from China, as well as by large well-capitalized financial institutions who plan to cultivate a generation of lifelong renters. In the notorious words of the World Economic Forum, “You will own nothing, and love it.” Well, you may not love it, but the first part is coming true.

This shift has been taking place for decades, as the superrich and large investment companies buy up much of the land. In the United States, the proportion of land owned by the one hundred largest private landowners, reports the New York Times grew by nearly 50 percent between 2007 and 2017. In 2007, this group owned a total of 27 million acres of land, equivalent to the area of Maine and New Hampshire combined; a decade later, the one hundred largest landowners held 40.2 million acres, more than the entire area of New England.

In much of the American West, billionaires like Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Ted Turner have created vast estates that systematically make the local population land-poor. Landownership in Europe, too, is becoming more concentrated in fewer hands. In Great Britain, where land prices have risen dramatically over the past decade, less than 1 percent of the population owns half of all the land. On the continent, farmland is being consolidated into larger holdings, while urban real estate has been falling into the hands of a small number of corporate owners and the mega-wealthy. Amidst instability in commodity and stock markets, this trend of big capital investment in housing may be expected to accelerate.

A profound threat to the future of the middle class

The implications of the current land grab are profound, threatening the future of democratic institutions and the middle class. These trends are distressingly common across the higher income countries. The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) reported in Under Pressure: The Squeezed Middle-Class that the future of the middle-class is threatened by house prices that have been growing “three times faster than household median income over the last two decades.” The pandemic drove prices even further, and, in the U.S., housing affordability is at the lowest level since 1989.

On both sides of the Atlantic, large financial institutions like Britain’s Lloyds Bank and BlackRock have placed multi-billion dollar bets on buying homes for the rental market. In the first quarter of 2021, investors accounted for roughly one out of every seven homes bought, a marked increase from previous years. The popular notion is of a “rentership” society where people remain renters for life, enjoying their video games or attending to their houseplants, never knowing the pleasure of having a real garden or backyard of their own.  It might assure a steady profit for the landlord class, but would destroy the dream of ownership for the average person.

High home prices are the key driver of reduced social mobility. Matthew Rognlie, of Northwestern University, found that most of the increased inequality in Western countries was attributable to increased house values. In the United States over the past decade the proportion of real estate wealth held by middle class and working owners fell substantially while that controlled by the wealthy grew from under 20 percent to over 28 percent. In the last decade, high income households enjoyed 71 percent of all housing gains while the shares of middle and lower income families declined precipitously.

Property and democracy

Ownership has long been a critical issue for democratic institutions, from the Greek city-states to Rome to the Dutch Republic and North America. Aristotle saw a large class of middling owners as critical to Athens and its democracy, while warning, correctly, about the dangers of an oligarchy that would control both the economy and the state.

During the great democratic revolutions that swept western Europe, and later to the New World and Oceania, aristocratic and ecclesiastical landownership gave way to a more “individualistic” concept of property rights. By the thirteenth century, the Netherlands, a country short in natural resources, began to expand its territory by draining swamps and building dikes. The new lands made valuable by Improvements in agricultural methods fueled a widely spread economic “takeoff” driven by a new class of property owners. As the economic historian Jan de Vries observed, “capitalism grew out of the soil in Holland.”

After the Second World War, wider home ownership created unprecedented middle-class stability, broad social benefits, and helped subsidize comfortable retirements. Democracy grew stronger with the growth of a stable middle rank with a natural stake in economic progress  and an interest in the political system. Property also remains key to financial security. Homeowners have a median net worth more than 40 times that of renters, according to the Census Bureau. As the radical social theorist Barrington Moore said a half century ago, “no bourgeois, no democracy.”

The great betrayal

Sadly, the next generation likely will have a far more difficult time buying property than their parents and grandparents. After 1940, U.S. homeownership rates grew rapidly, from 44 percent to 63 percent thirty years later.  Now, the trend is in the opposite direction. Millennials are less likely to be homeowners than baby boomers and Gen Xers. The homeownership rate among millennials ages 25 to 34 is 8 percentage points lower than baby boomers and 8.4 percentage points lower than Gen Xers in the same age group. Their chances of buying now have been made more problematic by the rapid rise in interest rates.

Similar trends are seen in other high-income countries, including Australia, Ireland, and the United Kingdom. Australia historically has had high rates of homeownership, but the rate among those between 25 and 34 years old dropped from more than 60 percent in 1981 to only 45 percent in 2016. The proportion of owner-occupied housing has dropped by 10 percent in the last 25 years. A trend toward long-term “rentership” is also seen in Ireland. In the United Kingdom, only a third of millennials own a home, compared with almost two-thirds of baby boomers at the same age. At least one-third of British millennials are likely to remain renters for life.   

High housing costs are particularly burdensome for middle- and working-class families. According to a recent AEI survey, high priced California is home to six of the nation’s worst markets for first time homebuyers; a recent study by economist John Husing found that not one unionized construction worker can afford a median priced home in any coastal California county. Oligarchs may favor more housing in principle, but certainly not near to where they live. In Houston, $350,000 buys you a new 1800 square foot home; in San Francisco, it barely buys a 350 foot studio. No wonder that, as MIT’s David Autor has suggested, dense core cities have become toxic to working class aspirations.   

Policies that make things worse.

In many countries, government policy seems designed to accelerate the trend toward long-term tenancy. Australia, California, the United Kingdom, and New Zealand, all cite environmental concerns to impose a large regulatory noose around new developments, particularly in the periphery. Overall, far fewer Californians, notes demographer Wendell Cox, can afford to buy a median-priced home today than in 2000, even though nationally the percentage of people who can afford homes has actually increased.

The price spike has been worsened by well-funded investors and speculators, who see artificially high prices, guaranteed by regulatory restraints, as a sure bet. All-cash buyers have grown to nearly 23 percent, more than twice the percentage in 2006, according to the California Board of Realtors.

These investors have powerful allies both on the right and left. Libertarians generally favor policies that limit single family zoning, even at the expense of working- and middle-class people. Randall O’Toole, who had been Cato Institute’s land use expert since 2007, notes that libertarians have been working hand-in-hand with left-wing groups in “to force” Californians “to live in ways in which they didn’t want to live.“ That is, in small apartments.

One oft-celebrated driver for eliminating middle-class, family-friendly housing are the so-called YIMBYs (“Yes in my backyard”). YIMBYs, notes an investigation in the leftist In These Times, enjoy fevered support from Wall Street and the tech elite. They also have strong ties with green progressives, like the Democratic Socialists of America. These groups disdain suburbia, promote dense apartment living, and have little interest in expanded homeownership. Indeed  some are open collectivists who reject the very idea of individual ownership and would welcome the prospect of a massive expansion of public housing.

The future battle over ownership.

In the coming decade, the decline in mass ownership of property will have profound implications. For one thing it will remove for most of the current generation—most of whom still believe in creating wealth through ownership—the incentive of capitalist accumulation, owning their own home. They certainly may “own nothing,” as some architects of the “great reset” dream, although this will leave them dependent on finance, or the state, for virtually everything  from rent to transportation and furniture.

This may not be the future preferred by most people, most of whom are out of the market due to costs, but still seek to own a home. Yet the reduction in the chance of ownership is already shaping the politics of the future, particularly among the permanently propertyless young, who naturally opt for socialist policies—like those of Bernie Sanders or France’s Jean Luc Melenchon—that promise subsidizes and control their rents. All this suggest a future where economic autonomy, the key to bourgeois democracy, will barely exist for most families besides the most affluent. Ultimately the battle over land and property will define our future and whether we provide hope to the next generation, or force them to accept a lifetime of rental serfdom and permanent subservience to the state, or big capital, or both.


Joel Kotkin is a Washington Fellow at the Claremont Institute Center for the American Way of Life and the Presidential Fellow in Urban Futures at Chapman University and executive director of the Urban Reform Institute. His new book, The Coming of Neo-Feudalism, is out now from Encounter.

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Biden and Bank of America
« Reply #717 on: September 02, 2022, 07:21:20 AM »
here we go again  :roll: didn't we already do this and it failed  miserably.

"free shit " for votes :

https://republicbrief.com/this-new-plan-by-bank-of-america-cant-possibly-be-legal/


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Re: Biden and Bank of America
« Reply #718 on: September 02, 2022, 07:25:07 AM »
Apply for one of these loans. If they turn you down then you have standing to sue.


here we go again  :roll: didn't we already do this and it failed  miserably.

"free shit " for votes :

https://republicbrief.com/this-new-plan-by-bank-of-america-cant-possibly-be-legal/

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Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate: One more sector in Biden Dem Freefall
« Reply #721 on: October 19, 2022, 08:52:03 AM »
https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/us-housing-market-in-free-fall-as-builder-confidence-suffers-disastrous-drop-economist/


Builder confidence has plunged to the lowest level since 2012 - when Barack Obama was President.

People had more confidence under Trump in a lockdown than they do with Biden post-covid.

Make no mistake, interest rates rising are the result of Dem's inflationary policies.

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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate: One more sector in Biden Dem Freefall
« Reply #722 on: October 19, 2022, 09:03:57 AM »
It's just bad luck!


https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/us-housing-market-in-free-fall-as-builder-confidence-suffers-disastrous-drop-economist/


Builder confidence has plunged to the lowest level since 2012 - when Barack Obama was President.

People had more confidence under Trump in a lockdown than they do with Biden post-covid.

Make no mistake, interest rates rising are the result of Dem's inflationary policies.

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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #723 on: October 19, 2022, 09:41:56 AM »


"Make no mistake, interest rates rising are the result of Dem's inflationary policies" as well as the conceptual failure to see price increases due to supply fragmentation playing a major role.

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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #724 on: October 21, 2022, 08:40:28 AM »

"Make no mistake, interest rates rising are the result of Dem's inflationary policies" as well as the conceptual failure to see price increases due to supply fragmentation playing a major role.


When you get a chance, could you expand on what you mean by this in this context.

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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #725 on: October 21, 2022, 04:51:35 PM »
Jude Wanniski, in his brilliant book (according to the WSJ one of the 100 most important books of the 20th century) "The Way the World Works" there is a chapter in which he takes on theories of the crash of '29 and the Great Depression (e.g. "Speculation on Wall Street",  Milton Friedman's monetarist analysis, etc) and instead places it on the fragmentation of the world economy due to anti trade policies such as tariffs and competitive exchange rate devaluations.  His analysis of the movement of the market in '29 tracking the movement of the Smoot Hawley Tariff Act is positively brilliant (bill locked up in Committee, the market surges, comes out of Committee, the market dives, etc)

What we are seeing now with the disruptions to the fragile supply chain lines that could exist during the American leg global order but now no longer can, is IMHO quite analogous.

Thought experiment:  What would happen to the standard of living in America were each of the 50 states have to stand in autarchy?

Does this help?

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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #726 on: October 21, 2022, 10:51:12 PM »
Jude Wanniski, in his brilliant book (according to the WSJ one of the 100 most important books of the 20th century) "The Way the World Works" there is a chapter in which he takes on theories of the crash of '29 and the Great Depression (e.g. "Speculation on Wall Street",  Milton Friedman's monetarist analysis, etc) and instead places it on the fragmentation of the world economy due to anti trade policies such as tariffs and competitive exchange rate devaluations.  His analysis of the movement of the market in '29 tracking the movement of the Smoot Hawley Tariff Act is positively brilliant (bill locked up in Committee, the market surges, comes out of Committee, the market dives, etc)

What we are seeing now with the disruptions to the fragile supply chain lines that could exist during the American leg global order but now no longer can, is IMHO quite analogous.

Thought experiment:  What would happen to the standard of living in America were each of the 50 states have to stand in autarchy?

Does this help?

We are already plunging into 3rd world standards of living.

It's only going to get worse.

Plan accordingly.

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BTC vs. RE
« Reply #727 on: October 22, 2022, 07:17:02 AM »
In this video Michael Saylor, billionaire and prominent Bitcoiner, compares the 18 defects of Real Estate with BTC. Eye opener.
https://youtu.be/mP0f2s39GDs
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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #728 on: October 22, 2022, 10:08:40 AM »
Jude Wanniski, in his brilliant book (according to the WSJ one of the 100 most important books of the 20th century) "The Way the World Works" there is a chapter in which he takes on theories of the crash of '29 and the Great Depression (e.g. "Speculation on Wall Street",  Milton Friedman's monetarist analysis, etc) and instead places it on the fragmentation of the world economy due to anti trade policies such as tariffs and competitive exchange rate devaluations.  His analysis of the movement of the market in '29 tracking the movement of the Smoot Hawley Tariff Act is positively brilliant (bill locked up in Committee, the market surges, comes out of Committee, the market dives, etc)

What we are seeing now with the disruptions to the fragile supply chain lines that could exist during the American leg global order but now no longer can, is IMHO quite analogous.

Thought experiment:  What would happen to the standard of living in America were each of the 50 states have to stand in autarchy?

Does this help?

Yes.  Thank you.

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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #729 on: October 22, 2022, 10:29:17 AM »
YA, I have high regard for what you think important, but lack the 55 minutes of concentration to watch.  Any chance you could give us a summary?

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BTC as digital property
« Reply #730 on: October 22, 2022, 12:27:05 PM »
I too typically avoid long videos, but this one is probably worthwhile. Saylor thinks BTC is digital property, he compares real estate with BTC's properties that you may or may not be aware off. Ofcourse, the assumption is BTC is not going to zero.
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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate, the Biden Dem mess
« Reply #731 on: November 19, 2022, 05:26:10 PM »
A homebuyer must earn $107,281 to afford the $2,682 monthly mortgage payment on the typical U.S. home, up 45.6% from $73,668 a year ago. That’s due to mortgage rates that have more than doubled over the last 12 months, combined with persistently high home prices. The average U.S. hourly wage grew by about 5% over that same period, and inflation is also cutting into would-be buyers’ budgets

http://redfin.com/news

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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #732 on: November 21, 2022, 07:39:19 AM »
"The problem is largely, if not exclusively, the result of the country not permitting enough homes where people want them."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/america-s-housing-gap-is-too-huge-to-measure/ar-AA14mqJ3
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How many new housing units would need to be built before housing becomes affordable?

No one even considers the idea of letting a free market decide that.

The controversy in Vail showcases the issue.  Vail Resorts can't build 'affordable housing' for employees on 5 acres they own by the freeway because it would be the end of Bighorn Sheep as we know them:
https://abc17news.com/news/2022/11/14/in-vail-housing-shortage-threatens-americas-ski-wonderland-2/

Without employees there is no business and without housing there are no employees.  All because of what Thomas Sowell pointed out decades ago, government and voters apparently don't want housing built on 99% of the land.  Once you have yours, don't let anyone else in.  Prices skyrocket.  How does that help the poor and the working people? 
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Fascism in Housing, danger in neighborhoods, NYC
« Reply #733 on: November 27, 2022, 08:56:24 AM »
https://nypost.com/2022/11/26/nyc-landlords-could-soon-be-denied-criminal-background-checks-for-tenants/
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A couple of comments: 1) What happena in NYC (or Calif) does not stay there; it tells you what leftist liberals who govern all our other large cities are thinking and likely to do soon, cf. Minneapolis:
https://reason.com/2019/09/17/minneapolis-doesnt-want-landlords-to-check-tenants-criminal-history-credit-score-past-evictions/

2) Definitions vary but communism is when the government owns the means of production (no private sector) and Fascism is when ownership in name only is private sector but all key decisions are dictated by government, which is what is happening here. Who you rent to is the key decision in housing. Laws protecting race, gender, etc are matters of rights. 

Laws protecting convicted felons and known bad tenants of recent past violent behaviors and other issues make a mockery of tenant screening, the heart of the housing business. 

If the government makes all the decisions, isn't it just government housing?

All that's left is for private owners to get out of ownership but they have laws blocking that as well.
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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #734 on: November 27, 2022, 09:20:39 AM »
"2) Definitions vary but communism is when the government owns the means of production (no private sector) and Fascism is when ownership in name only is private sector but all key decisions are dictated by government, which is what is happening here"

THIS!!!

Doug, it makes sense to me that you post your preceding post in the Fascism thread as well.

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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #738 on: July 09, 2023, 07:48:51 AM »
FK.

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Commercial Real Estate, San Francisco
« Reply #739 on: July 18, 2023, 04:52:59 AM »
Big buildings for sale, not selling.
Big buildings for lease, not leasing.
Good thing the commercial real estate market is not tied to the rest of the economy, just kidding, because it's going to crash.

https://nypost.com/2023/07/17/no-takers-on-san-franciscos-big-tech-buildings-for-sale/

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Bidenflation doubles the cost of a house payment
« Reply #740 on: July 20, 2023, 06:46:39 AM »
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/loan-officer-m-seeing-middle-000641114.html

More here:
https://thehill.com/business/4107748-rising-prices-mortgage-rates-push-monthly-payments-to-all-time-high-report/

Real wages down, energy prices up, credit card debt up, national debt up, housing costs skyrocketing, what could possibly go wrong?
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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #742 on: July 28, 2023, 05:55:55 AM »
Those numbers would seem to mean a lot of owners are seriously underwater.

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WSJ: NYC rent control is C'ly vulnerable
« Reply #743 on: August 15, 2023, 06:15:31 PM »


Rent Control Is Constitutionally Vulnerable
New York’s 2019 law is so onerous that the Supreme Court may revisit the issue for the first time in years.
By Alexander Talel
Aug. 15, 2023 6:10 pm ET



Is rent control constitutional? To look at the case law, the answer would appear to be yes. The Supreme Court “has consistently affirmed that States have broad power to regulate housing conditions in general and the landlord-tenant relationship in particular,” as Justice Thurgood Marshall put it in Loretto v. Teleprompter Manhattan CATV Corp. (1982).

But the justices have also acknowledged that the rules have to be “appropriate” and that “if regulation goes too far, it will be recognized as a taking for which compensation must be paid,” as Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote in Pennsylvania Coal Co. v. Mahon (1922). New York state’s Housing Stability and Tenant Protection Act of 2019 amended New York City’s rent-stabilization regime in a way that makes it ripe for a constitutional challenge.

New York’s Rent Stabilization Law, originally enacted in 1969, compels certain city landlords to accommodate de facto permanent tenancies at well below-market rental rates. Before 2019, however, landlords could exit the rent-stabilization scheme under certain conditions. The 2019 law eliminated those exceptions.

A group of landlords sued and lost. In February, the Second U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed the trial court’s decision that rent stabilization, even in its 2019 version, isn’t a government taking, which would require compensation under the Fifth Amendment. The landlords have petitioned the justices to hear an appeal.

The 1969 law was followed by the Emergency Tenant Protection Act in 1974, which allowed the state to renew rent stabilization on declaration of a housing “emergency.” The state has since regularly made that declaration, preventing rent stabilization from expiring, although 1993 amendments allowed landlords to escape rent stabilization when an apartment became vacant or a tenant’s income and the monthly rent both rose above a certain threshold. The 2019 law effectively eliminated both deregulation and the “sunset provision”—the date by which rent stabilization expires absent an “emergency” declaration—thereby ensuring that rent stabilization will apply forever to every covered apartment.

After several unsuccessful legal challenges to previous iterations of the law, Community Housing Improvement Program v. City of New York challenged the 2019 version. The Second Circuit applied Penn Central Transportation v. New York City (1978), a Supreme Court decision involving a challenge to the city’s landmarks-preservation law. Penn Central encourages courts reviewing a takings claim to engage in “essentially ad hoc, factual inquiries” by considering several factors, including the statutory scheme’s economic impact on a landowner, the extent to which the scheme interferes with a landowner’s investment-backed expectations, and the character of the governmental action. The Second Circuit held that rent stabilization doesn’t invariably do economic harm to landlords and that the Legislature’s judgment was entitled to broad deference.

But that formulaic determination gives short shrift to the economic harm of rent regulation—which other policies implicitly acknowledge. New York state offers a tax abatement for residential construction developers who have allowed a portion of new units to be rent-stabilized. If government is compensating property owners who voluntarily provide below-market rental apartments, how can it refuse to compensate those it compels to do so? The onerousness of the taking effected by rent stabilization undermines its stated purpose of increasing the availability of affordable housing units. Owners of buildings with rent-stabilized apartments have begun “warehousing” them—keeping them vacant to prevent permanent occupation by commercially damaging tenants.

Instead of Penn Central, the appellants had urged the Second Circuit to apply a more context-specific standard set out by Justice Antonin Scalia. Writing in Pennell v. San Jose (1988), Scalia argued that where a price regulation designed to cure a social ill encumbers a property whose owner has neither created nor contributed to that ill—in this case the hardship to which a market rent subjects a tenant—the regulation amounts to a taking. Scalia’s opinion in Pennell was joined only by Justice Sandra Day O’Connor.

The Second Circuit’s opinion cites Scalia’s proposed standard in a lengthy footnote, which concludes as follows: “We decline to employ a test that has never been adopted by the Supreme Court.” That was the right thing to do; appellate courts are obligated to follow the precedents of the Supreme Court. The petition for appeal is an opportunity for the justices to take another look.

Scalia’s standard cuts against the notion that a legislature’s “broad authority” to regulate the landlord-tenant relationship insulates such regulation from serious constitutional scrutiny. “The fact that government acts through the landlord-tenant relationship,” he wrote, “does not magically transform general public welfare, which must be supported by all the public, into mere ‘economic regulation,’ which can disproportionately burden particular individuals.”

Scalia further pointed out that the “traditional manner in which American government has met the problem of those who cannot pay reasonable prices for privately sold necessities—a problem caused by the society at large—has been the distribution to such persons of funds raised from the public at large through taxes, either in cash (welfare payments) or in goods (public housing, publicly subsidized housing, and food stamps).”

New York’s rent-stabilization scheme is at heart a public-welfare program. It may be a worthy one. But it uses private property for a public purpose. The Constitution therefore requires its cost to be borne by the general public, whether through a tax benefit or some equivalent compensation applicable to all affected buildings.

Mr. Talel is an attorney in private practice. He served as law clerk to Judge Jon O. Newman of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and to Judge Sidney H. Stein of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York.

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Re: Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate
« Reply #744 on: September 05, 2023, 01:49:55 PM »
Real Estate Industry in Panic Mode:

"45% Drop in Home Purchases – Bigger Than '08! Home sales are now down 31% in 2023.

Without transactions, many jobs that are commission oriented are seeing huge declines in incomes. Real estate agents, mortgage brokers, title insurance, home inspectors. All of the various categories are entering a depressions from lack of transactions."

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1698794904338546711
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Sorry people, all the borrowing went to government. Nothing left for homes and businesses.

What's the campaign slogan going to be, more of the same? Stay the course?  Morning in America?

Who are these people that think everything is fine with what they're doing to our country? Wake the bleep up.
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Housing/Mortgage/Real Estate, What a mess!
« Reply #747 on: October 12, 2023, 09:04:15 AM »
Hat tip Instapundit
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/yourmoney/property-and-mortgages/article-12620145/downsizing-cost-homeowners-prices-elevated-mortgage-rates.html

Why downsizing will cost homeowners MORE: Soaring house prices and elevated mortgage rates mean retirees can no longer afford to move.

Downsizing has traditionally made sense for retirees looking to settle down and shore up their nest eggs for their later years.

But moving to a smaller home may no longer be a way for Americans to save money in the current market, experts warn.

The average 30-year fixed-rate mortgage has soared to 7.49 percent, according to latest data from lender Freddie Mac, while many homeowners are locked into much cheaper 2 or 3 percent deals on their current homes.

Meanwhile the number of smaller houses for sale has diminished in recent years, according to listing website Realtor.com – pushing up the price of the limited inventory on the market.

The number of properties for sale that measure 750 to 1,750 square feet – the size range people who are downsizing tend to purchase – has dropped by more than 50 percent since 2016, according to Realtor.com.

Downsizing is most expensive for those who are locked into historically low mortgage rates – and who would need to take out a loan on a smaller home.

They might not be able to afford to stay, either, as property taxes go nowhere but up on their appreciating homes.
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(Doug). What a mess!  It didn't have to happen this way.

A characteristic of general trend of prosperity should be that the basics for living keep getting more and more affordable. Characteristic of a first world country is that the future is on a trend line somewhat predictable. Instead real wages are falling and prices of most basic things are rising. 

Interest rates were too low for too long, now have more than more than doubled in less than three years, with nothing other than policy malfeasance to blame.

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« Reply #748 on: October 22, 2023, 08:54:01 AM »