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Q Anon. - another media bunch of shit
« Reply #1454 on: March 23, 2022, 06:32:34 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

I doubt there are many people out there who believe the first paragraph

or are members or followers of this

Indeed I have never heard of it

except for we keep hearing Democrats try to label all of us members, followers, believers, and constantly interchange "Trump" with "Q Anon"

after reading the wikipedia piece I still don't understand, nor know anyone who cares -

it is less of force for conservatives though it appears to provide a tool for the leftist bullshitters in the MSM to use against all conservatives:

the election was stolen- you are q anon
there is a deep state - you are q anon
CRT is being taught in schools - you are q anon
you voted for Trump - you are q anon
etc

I doubt there are any Republican politicians who are campaigning
on a platform to appeal to Q Anon.

You are a white supremacist
you are a racist
you are homophobic islamophobic, anti women

and

you are Q Anon!!!


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Re: Q Anon. - another media bunch of shit
« Reply #1455 on: March 23, 2022, 07:18:42 AM »
Yes.  We are all Qanon, before we ever heard of it.  What a crock.

Wikipedia : "They claim that a cabal of Satanic,[1][2][3] cannibalistic sexual abusers of children operating a global child sex trafficking ring conspired against former U.S. President Donald Trump during his term in office."

With Brennan, Comey, McCabe and the gang, the problem isn't child sex trafficking.  The problem is their lawless actions to bring down a President and his party.  Remember the country was under the cloud of having a President who is a Russian spy when Pelosi took back the House in 2018 and stopped the Trump agenda. That WAS a conspiracy, (and we aren't a cult) .

Now we have leadership that IS compromised by the Russians and the Chinese regimes.

And no one seems to care.
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Re: Q Anon. - another media bunch of shit
« Reply #1456 on: March 23, 2022, 07:31:08 AM »
https://babylonbee.com/news/click-here-for-an-updated-number-of-epstein-island-pedophiles-that-have-been-arrested





Yes.  We are all Qanon, before we ever heard of it.  What a crock.

Wikipedia : "They claim that a cabal of Satanic,[1][2][3] cannibalistic sexual abusers of children operating a global child sex trafficking ring conspired against former U.S. President Donald Trump during his term in office."

With Brennan, Comey, McCabe and the gang, the problem isn't child sex trafficking.  The problem is their lawless actions to bring down a President and his party.  Remember the country was under the cloud of having a President who is a Russian spy when Pelosi took back the House in 2018 and stopped the Trump agenda. That WAS a conspiracy, (and we aren't a cult) .

Now we have leadership that IS compromised by the Russians and the Chinese regimes.

And no one seems to care.


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WSJ: The Ginni Thomas leaks
« Reply #1458 on: March 27, 2022, 02:25:00 PM »

The Ginni Thomas Texts and the Jan. 6 Committee
A leak to the press aims to tarnish Justice Clarence Thomas.
By The Editorial Board
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March 25, 2022 6:46 pm ET


What story do you think would deserve to push the biggest war in Europe in nearly 80 years down from the lead news of the day? If you said the private text messages of the wife of a Supreme Court Justice, you are apparently qualified to run a major American newsroom.

That’s the leak-on-a-silver-platter news the Washington Post blared at the top of its homepage on Thursday evening. Someone handed reporter Bob Woodward and protege Robert Costa the content of 29 text messages in 2020 and 2021 between Mark Meadows, then White House chief of staff, and Ginni Thomas, wife of Justice Clarence Thomas.

Mrs. Thomas sent 21 of the messages and Mr. Meadows sent eight. All but one are from November 2020, in the early days after Joe Biden was declared the winner in the presidential election. The House select committee on Jan. 6 obtained the messages from Mr. Meadows as part of its investigation.


The Post hypes the messages as showing “how Ginni Thomas used her access to Trump’s inner circle to promote and seek to guide the president’s strategy to overturn the election results.” Sounds nefarious, until you understand that the back and forth added up to nothing meaningful.

The messages certainly aren’t flattering to Mrs. Thomas, who has long been active in conservative political circles. They show that, distraught by the election result, she indulged some of the nuttier election-fraud theories when the Trump campaign was challenging the results in court.

“Help This Great President stand firm, Mark!!!” she wrote on Nov. 10. “You are the leader, with him, who is standing for America’s constitutional governance at the precipice. The majority knows Biden and the Left is attempting the greatest Heist of our History.”

Mrs. Thomas suggests that lawyer Sidney Powell be “the lead and the face” of the Trump legal team. Ms. Powell is being sued for defamation by a voting-machine company for peddling falsehoods. There is no evidence that voting machines were manipulated to change votes in 2020. Even the Trump team dumped Ms. Powell as it concluded she had no evidence.

The other Trump legal challenges to the election failed in multiple courts around the country for lack of evidence. Mrs. Thomas has admitted to attending the Jan. 6 “Stop the Steal” rally but says she left early, and there’s no evidence to date that she played a role in organizing the rally that became a riot.

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All of which raises the question of why these messages have leaked. There’s no reason to make them public now, and maybe never if they are tangential to what happened on Jan. 6. As a private citizen, Mrs. Thomas can believe all the crank theories she wants, and she has the right to participate in politics even as the spouse of a Justice.

The leak may have been an act of revenge against Mrs. Thomas for signing a letter from conservative activists in December 2021 that objected to the creation of the Jan. 6 committee and called on the House GOP to expel committee members Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger from their conference.

The leak’s timing suggests another purpose is to damage Justice Thomas as the Supreme Court is preparing to hand down major decisions on gun and abortion rights. And sure enough, the served-up Woodward scoop was followed by demands that Justice Thomas resign, or at least recuse himself from cases involving the election.

He is supposedly implicated in his wife’s messages because he was the sole Justice to dissent from a Jan. 19 Supreme Court decision that President Trump couldn’t block the National Archives from giving the select committee documents from his time in the White House. But the Woodward story says the select committee received the messages from Mr. Meadows, not the National Archives.

Mrs. Thomas’s text messages are embarrassing but amount to an outsider kibitzing and commiserating with the White House chief of staff. They are no reason for Justice Thomas to recuse himself from cases involving the Trump Administration.

The Jan. 6 committee advertises itself as a fact-finding body without a partisan purpose. But then it should wait to issue its report when its facts are complete. The Ginni Thomas leaks are a political sideswipe that will make its conclusions harder to credit.
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Re: FEDsurrection confirmed! New disclosure?
« Reply #1460 on: March 30, 2022, 07:10:58 AM »
Why would they need to disclose anything about some random guy from Arizona that had no affiliation with the federal government?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-feds-prepare-to-make-disclosure-about-ray-epps-court-docs-say

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/397325.php

There is ZERO doubt there were FBI U/C and CIs there running the classic COINTELPRO ops.

GM:

We are agreed that the FBI has a scurrilous history of entrapment and false flags.  We are agreed that is has gotten worse and that the accusations of the FBI fomenting Jan 6 are plausible.

That said, because our cause includes logic and integrity, we also need to acknowledge the validity of AMcC's criticism of Tucker's claim that unindicted co-conspirator means that they were FBI agents.  It just ain't so.
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SPLC
« Reply #1461 on: April 03, 2022, 04:52:46 PM »

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"proud boy " pleads guilty
« Reply #1469 on: April 09, 2022, 10:24:25 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/leading-proud-boys-member-pleads-guilty-to-us-capitol-riot-charges/ar-AAW0Edw?li=BBnb7Kz

according to Wikipedia :
The total number of Proud Boys members is unknown. Reports estimate membership between several hundred up to 6,000.[68][69][70] In July 2018, the Proud Boys L.A. branch had 160 members and up to 300 pending applicants, according to the unidentified Proud Boys L.A. president.[71]

A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!

of course I don't like them at all, but
   they will not bring the US down.

The Democrat Party will though.

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Re: "proud boy " pleads guilty
« Reply #1470 on: April 09, 2022, 11:44:54 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/leading-proud-boys-member-pleads-guilty-to-us-capitol-riot-charges/ar-AAW0Edw?li=BBnb7Kz

according to Wikipedia :
The total number of Proud Boys members is unknown. Reports estimate membership between several hundred up to 6,000.[68][69][70] In July 2018, the Proud Boys L.A. branch had 160 members and up to 300 pending applicants, according to the unidentified Proud Boys L.A. president.[71]

A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!

of course I don't like them at all, but
   they will not bring the US down.

The Democrat Party will though.

Why don’t you like them?

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1472 on: April 09, 2022, 07:19:34 PM »
".Why don’t you like them?"

only white men?

suppose we have a black woman who is a proud American

or a black man ?

they can't join.

what about Jews

perhaps I don't understand the Proud Boys

but to me I lump them in with Aryans KKK anti black anti semite etc

I am I mistaken?

I want all the blacks latinos women on our side we can get.  Not alienate them.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1473 on: April 09, 2022, 07:35:55 PM »
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/1/enrique-tarrio-says-proud-boys-not-white-supremaci/

Is it possible the MSM-DNC has been less than honest?




".Why don’t you like them?"

only white men?

suppose we have a black woman who is a proud American

or a black man ?

they can't join.

what about Jews

perhaps I don't understand the Proud Boys

but to me I lump them in with Aryans KKK anti black anti semite etc

I am I mistaken?

I want all the blacks latinos women on our side we can get.  Not alienate them.

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proud boys
« Reply #1474 on: April 10, 2022, 10:58:11 AM »
it could be left wing smear

all along

not sure.....      :|

not sure why women are not allowed
if issue is political -  defender of Western civilization and culture

if nothing else they need a PR agent(s)

How 'bout they change there name to proud Americans or something that is more apropo



I don't hear Republicans coming out and defending them
but surely I am not looking if they do or not.




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Re: proud boys
« Reply #1475 on: April 10, 2022, 11:06:25 AM »
Or, perhaps people have the right to associate or not to associate with others, as they wish.

Just like Women's Restrooms/Locker rooms should be for actual biological females. (No biology degree required to make that determination).


it could be left wing smear

all along

not sure.....      :|

not sure why women are not allowed
if issue is political -  defender of Western civilization and culture

if nothing else they need a PR agent(s)

How 'bout they change there name to proud Americans or something that is more apropo



I don't hear Republicans coming out and defending them
but surely I am not looking if they do or not.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1476 on: April 10, 2022, 11:32:23 AM »
well Aryans KKK etc can choose to meet

but don't expect this to be good PR

so yea

fodder for the LEFT




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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/20-federal-assets-embedded-capitol-jan-6-court-filing-says

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nyt-reporter-says-ton-fbi-informants-were-j6-calls-traumatized-fellow-journos-biches

You.

Don't.

Say.



There is ZERO doubt there were FBI U/C and CIs there running the classic COINTELPRO ops.

GM:

We are agreed that the FBI has a scurrilous history of entrapment and false flags.  We are agreed that is has gotten worse and that the accusations of the FBI fomenting Jan 6 are plausible.

That said, because our cause includes logic and integrity, we also need to acknowledge the validity of AMcC's criticism of Tucker's claim that unindicted co-conspirator means that they were FBI agents.  It just ain't so.

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DC jury pool tainted
« Reply #1481 on: April 17, 2022, 09:51:06 AM »
District of Columbia Jury Pool ‘Saturated with Prejudice,’ Opinion Survey Finds
Attorneys in two Oath Keepers cases file motion to change venue from DC to eastern Virginia
By Joseph M. Hanneman April 16, 2022 Updated: April 16, 2022

Nearly three out of four District of Columbia residents are likely to find Jan. 6 defendants guilty in federal court, while 85 percent believe the events of Jan. 6 were criminal acts including insurrection, an attack, or a riot, a survey by two defense attorneys found.

Results of the survey by Inlux Research + Analytics were included late April 15 in a change-of-venue motion (pdf) filed by defendants in two Oath Keepers conspiracy cases. The research was commissioned on behalf of Thomas E. Caldwell of Berryville, Virginia, and Connie Meggs of Dunnellon, Florida.

The study is the third recent research project that alleges the pool of potential jurors in the District of Columbia is biased against defendants charged with crimes stemming from unrest at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

“The District of Columbia’s jury pool is saturated with prejudice,” said the motion, filed by attorneys David W. Fischer and Juli Z. Haller.

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Thomas and Sharon Caldwell at the Peace Monument near the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. (Sharon Caldwell)
Caldwell, who is charged with seditious conspiracy, conspiracy to obstruct a government proceeding, and three other counts, filed for a change of venue on July 1, 2021. United States District Judge Amit P. Mehta denied the motion without prejudice, ruling that Caldwell “has not put forth a scrap of evidence to support his claims of jury bias.” Caldwell is among five defendants in the Oath Keepers trial set for July 11.

Meggs is charged with conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, conspiracy to prevent an officer from discharging any duties, and two other Jan. 6 counts. Her trial is scheduled for Nov. 28.

Move Trials to Virginia
The motion asks for the Oath Keepers trials to be moved to U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia in Alexandria. “By doing so, the defendants stand a significantly better chance of being tried before a truly impartial jury,” Fischer and Haller wrote.

The opinion survey found 72 percent of D.C. residents said “they are likely to find defendants guilty—even when given the choice, ‘It’s too early to decide.’” Eighty-five percent characterized events of Jan. 6 “as acts that are criminal in nature,” even when given an option to reserve judgment on the issue.

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An opinion survey commissioned by attorneys David W. Fischer and Juli Z. Haller found more bias against Jan. 6 defendants in Washington than in three test areas. (Inlux Research via The Epoch Times)
About seven in 10 respondents said all people who entered the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 “planned in advance to do so,” even when given the option to reserve judgment on the question. More than 40 percent said they believe all of the Jan. 6 events “were racially motivated.”

Responses to the questions from D.C. residents were vastly different from residents in three test areas: the Middle District of Florida (Ocala Division), the Eastern District of North Carolina, and the Eastern District of Virginia.

For instance, only 9 percent of D.C. residents said they had not made a prejudicial pre-judgment against Jan. 6 defendants, compared with 51 percent in Florida, 39 percent in North Carolina, and 37 percent in Virginia, the study said.

Slightly more than 28 percent of District of Columbia residents said they have not decided they are more likely to find the defendants guilty, compared with 63 percent in Florida, and 52 percent in North Carolina and Virginia.

About 56 percent of D.C. residents said they do not identify with a group or class of people they believe was targeted by the events of Jan. 6. The figure was 94 percent in Florida, 83 percent in North Carolina, and 82 percent in Virginia, the study said.


Nearly 85 percent of D.C. respondents characterize Jan. 6 as involving insurrection, an attack, or a riot. That compares with 40 percent in Florida, 52 percent in North Carolina, and 57 percent in Virginia.

“The notion that more than 4 out of 10 jurors would assume that J6 was ‘racially motivated’ is disturbing and incorrect,” the motion said. “The defendants should not have to prove that they are not racists.”

‘Domestic Terrorists’
The motion cited constant negative news coverage coming from the House of Representatives select committee investigating Jan. 6 as a contributor to the bias. Stories include regular use of the terms “insurrectionists,” “white supremacists,” and “domestic terrorists.”

“Respectfully, the defendants do not agree that J6 was an ‘act of domestic terror,’ a ‘white supremacist attack,’ or an ‘insurrection,’” the document said. “In fact, unlike D.C. residents, most Americans—as the three attached surveys show—believe that J6 was a very large protest that got out of hand and turned into a riot.”

“The non-stop negative publicity requires the court to either grant a lengthy continuance or transfer venue to a federal district that is not as impacted by the Select Committee’s work,” the motion said.

Another contributing factor is incendiary comments made by Attorney General Merrick Garland comparing Jan. 6 to the 1995 terrorist bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, the court filing said.

“The majority of potential jurors in the District of Columbia were personally impacted in some way by the events on Capitol Hill on J6,” the motion said. “This factor weighs heavily in favor of transferring the instant cases to the Eastern District of Virginia. D.C. is a city that, as a whole, feels that it has been the victim of a crime.”

Results of the new survey are similar to those found in studies by John Zogby Strategies for a Jan. 6 defendant, and Select Litigation LLC for the Federal Public Defender’s Office in Alexandria, Virginia, Fischer and Haller wrote.

In the Zogby survey, nearly 75 percent of respondents “believed that anyone who merely entered the Capitol building on J6 is guilty of insurrection.” Seven in 10 respondents “believe that anyone who went inside the Capitol building on January 6 was trying to stop the certification of the electoral vote for president,” the survey found.

A Virginia trial location would not be a major inconvenience for the court and it would reduce the risk of having to try the cases twice, the attorneys wrote.

“Multiple surveys provide documented proof that substantial prejudice exists in D.C.’s jury pool, and case law suggests that a highly publicized congressional inquiry generating negative headlines against the J6 participants during their trial could be grounds for a mistrial or a new trial on appeal.”

Joseph M. Hanneman is a reporter for The Epoch Times with a focus on the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol incursion and its aftermath; and general news in the State of Wisconsin. His work over a nearly 40-year career has appeared in Catholic World Report, the Racine Journal Times, the Wisconsin State Journal and the Chicago Tribune. Reach him at: joseph.hanneman@epochtimes.us

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WT: Man found guilty for J6
« Reply #1482 on: April 18, 2022, 05:55:46 AM »
Ohio man found guilty for role in Jan. 6 riot

Claimed he was following ‘orders’

BY MICHAEL KUNZELMAN ASSOCIATED PRESS

An Ohio man who claimed he was only “following presidential orders” from then-President Trump when he stormed the U.S. Capitol was convicted by a jury that took less than 3 hours to reject his novel defense for obstructing Congress from certifying President Biden’s election victory.

The federal jury on Thursday also found Dustin Byron Thompson, 38, guilty of all five of the other charges in his indictment, including stealing a coat rack from an office inside the Capitol during the riot on Jan. 6, 2021.

The maximum sentence for the obstruction count, the lone felony, would be 20 years imprisonment.

Jurors didn’t buy Thompson’s defense, in which he blamed Mr. Trump and members of the president’s inner circle for the insurrection and for his own actions.

One juror who spoke to reporters only on condition of anonymity said, “Donald Trump wasn’t on trial in this case.”

The juror, a 40-year-old man, said as he left the courthouse, “Everyone agrees that Donald Trump is culpable as an overall narrative. Lots of people were there and then went home. Dustin Thompson did not.”

Thompson himself, testifying a day earlier, admitted he joined the mob’s attack and stole the coat rack and a bottle of bourbon. He said he regretted his disgraceful behavior.

“I can’t believe the things that I did,” he said. “Mob mentality and group think is very real and very dangerous.”

Still, he said he believed Mr. Trump’s claim that the election was stolen and was trying to stand up for him.

“If the president is giving you almost an order to do something, I felt obligated to do that,” he said.

U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton, who is scheduled to sentence Thompson on July 20, described the defendant’s testimony as “totally disingenuous” and his conduct on Jan. 6 as “reprehensible.” The judge also cast blame in Mr. Trump’s direction after the verdict was announced.

“I think our democracy is in trouble,” Judge Walton said, adding that “charlatans” like Mr. Trump don’t care about democracy, only about power.

“And as a result of that, it’s tearing our country apart,” the judge said.

Prosecutors did not ask for Thompson to be detained immediately, but Judge Walton ordered him held and he was led away handcuffed. The judge said he believed Thompson was a flight risk and posed a danger to the public.

Thompson’s trial was the third to go before a jury among hundreds of Capitol riot cases prosecuted by the Justice Department. In the first two cases, jurors also convicted the defendants of all charges.

Assistant U.S. Attorney William Dreher said that Thompson, a college-educated exterminator who lost his job during the COVID-19 pandemic, knew he was breaking the law when he joined the mob that attacked the Capitol and, in his case, looted the Senate parliamentarian’s office.

The prosecutor told jurors that Thompson’s lawyer “wants you to think you have to choose between President Trump and his client.”

“You don’t have to choose because this is not President Trump’s trial. This is the trial for Dustin Thompson because of what he did at the Capitol on the afternoon on Jan. 6,” Mr. Dreher told jurors during his closing arguments.

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MY: Antifa to trigger martial law
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This sort of policing will NOT end well
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ET: J6: Oathkeepers saved police
« Reply #1491 on: May 11, 2022, 10:55:08 AM »
Video of Oath Keepers Rescuing 16 Police Officers Deflates Jan. 6 Sedition Narrative, Attorneys Say
By Joseph M. Hanneman May 10, 2022 Updated: May 11, 2022biggersmaller Print
Video of Oath Keepers Rescuing 16 Police Officers Deflates Jan. 6 Sedition Narrative, Attorneys Say (theepochtimes.com)


A video widely circulated in 2021 that showed a Capitol Police lieutenant asking members of the Oath Keepers for rescue help at the U.S. Capitol blows a hole in the seditious conspiracy charges brought against the group by federal prosecutors, two defense attorneys say.

In the video, Lt. Tarik Khalid Johnson asks a group of men to help him get more than a dozen trapped Capitol Police officers out of the Capitol and through a tightly packed crowd of protesters on the building’s east steps.

It was widely reported in January 2021 that Johnson wore a red Make America Great Again cap on Jan. 6 as a ruse to “trick” supporters of President Donald J. Trump into helping him rescue fellow officers from the Capitol. He was later suspended for wearing the MAGA cap. Johnson is a registered Democrat, according to online records.

The men who answered the call to help were members of the Oath Keepers, a nationwide group of current and former military, law enforcement, and first responders who have been targeted by federal prosecutors for allegedly conspiring to attack the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

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Lt. Tarik Johnson talks to a group of Oath Keepers about police officers trapped in the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. (Rico La Starza, Archive.org/Screenshot via The Epoch Times)
The video is at least the second example showing the Oath Keepers coming to the aid of Capitol Police inside the building on that day.

Would a group of men seditiously plotting an attack on the Capitol, allegedly to prevent certification of Electoral College votes, rush into the building to extract police trapped inside—all while being followed by a filmmaker?

‘More Holes Than Swiss Cheese’
“The prosecutors’ narrative has more holes than Swiss cheese, but it [the video] does directly refute their claim,” said Jonathon Moseley, who previously represented Florida Oath Keepers leader Kelly Meggs.

Prosecutors “just keep ignoring the self-contradictions in their stories,” Moseley said.

The video was shot by part-time filmmaker Rico La Starza. One of several versions of the video posted online includes an introduction by La Starza. He said the video shows “me helping a group of Oath Keepers help Capitol Police get out. They looked scared and tired.”

Attorney Brad Geyer said the video should open a lot of eyes about the Oath Keepers.

“America would probably find it surprising, based on how the Oath Keepers had been framed in these now seven superseding indictments,” said Geyer, who represents Oath Keepers member Kenneth Harrelson. “But as far as reality is concerned, this is just another day at doing security details.”

In the middle of the afternoon on Jan. 6, Lt. Johnson appeared on a terrace area near the bottom of the east stairs at the U.S. Capitol. He approached a group of Oath Keepers for help.

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Two Oath Keepers and Capitol Police Lt. Tarik Johnson used a “stack formation” to ascend the crowded east steps of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. (Rico La Starza, Archive.org/Screenshot via The Epoch Times)
“If you guys can help me save some of the guys,” Johnson said to two Oath Keepers. “If you can help me get aside these people, I’d appreciate it. I just need to get these other officers out. They’re scared.

“We’re getting beat up, but the people who didn’t go for help are laughing at us,” Johnson said.

“I can do that. I can help,” said one Oath Keepers member named Michael. Turning around to face Johnson, Michael appeared to flash a badge and again said, “I can help.” Johnson handed Michael a megaphone and they went to the east stairs leading up to the Columbus Doors.

‘We’re Here. We’ve Got You’
“Just let me hold onto you,” Johnson said as they started ascending the steps.

“We’re here. We’ve got you,” Michael said.

The two Oath Keepers shielded Lt. Johnson and walked in a “stack formation” up the steps on the east side of the Capitol. Johnson radioed ahead to say some of the demonstrators were walking him through the crowd toward the entrance.

Some people in the crowd expressed support for the trio. “I’m with you brother,” one said. “Thank you, sir!” replied another.

“We’re Oath Keepers,” the second Oath Keepers member said. He has not been identified.

“Stand aside, make a hole. We’re Oath Keepers, stand aside!” he said as the group reached the historic Columbus Doors.

Two other groups of Oath Keepers that used the same stack formation to navigate the dense crowds and enter the Capitol were accused by prosecutors of using this military tactic as part of their alleged plan to attack the building and stop the certification of Electoral College votes.

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Capitol Police Lt. Tarik Johnson and two members of the Oath Keepers enter the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 to rescue 17 trapped police officers. (Rico La Starza, Archive.org/Screenshot via The Epoch Times)
“Watch out, man. They’re trying to get the cops out,” a nearby protester said.

They worked their way through a tightly packed crowd of protesters inside the Columbus Doors and through the interior double doors.

A short time later, Michael appeared at the doors with a megaphone. He advised the crowd—along with some angry agitators near the doors— to back up and let them through.

“We don’t do this (expletive). We don’t do this (expletive)! he said over the megaphone. “Back up and make a hole!”

“(Expletive) you!” one agitator shouted.

“Back up and make a (expletive) hole!” the Oath Keeper retorted.

Michael stretched his arms out and blocked the crowd, pushing backward.

As Capitol Police started to exit the Columbus Doors, they received pats on the back, hugs, and comments such as, “Thank you, sir!” and “Good job!”

‘Anti-Government Militia Group?’
In all, 16 Capitol Police officers were brought out of the Capitol by the Oath Keepers. All but one of the officers were wearing heavy riot gear.

The Wall Street Journal posted the rescue video with a story about Johnson on Jan. 15, 2021. The Journal referred to the Oath Keepers as an “anti-government militia group,” a term the group flatly rejects.

“We were there as a force of good,” Oath Keepers member Roberto Minuta, who was also part of the rescue operation, told The Epoch Times. “I was with the Oath Keepers, and we’ve always done positive work, disaster relief, protecting businesses, aiding people that need help.

“We have no history of violence and no intention of violence,” said Minuta, one of nine Oath Keepers charged with seditious conspiracy on January 6. “We are strictly there to protect the First Amendment because we can’t have one side that’s permitted to have free speech and the other that’s not. That’s not America. That’s not what this country was founded on and when that’s gone, my children’s future looks grim.”

Oath Keepers founder Elmer Stewart Rhodes III told The Epoch Times his group is hated because it reminds those who took an oath of their duty to disobey unlawful orders.

“And so, out of the gate, the left just hated us because of that,” Rhodes said. “Of course, the big smear is that we’re somehow anti-government, even though we’re defending the Constitution. We’re all about defending the Constitution, which established the federal government.”

Geyer said the rescue of the Capitol Police officers was no surprise to him.

Epoch Times Photo
A woman hugs each of the 17 U.S. Capitol police officers rescued from the Capitol by the Oath Keepers on Jan. 6, 2021. (Rico La Starza, Archive.org/Screenshot via The Epoch Times)
“The Oath Keepers have been working as a volunteer auxiliary police force around the country now for well over a decade,” Geyer said. “It’s what one might expect that the police would seek Oath Keepers assistance if there’s a crowd-control issue or an issue related to police movements, or if the police needed assistance for whatever reason.

“They were there to support law enforcement,” Geyer said. “And so when their assistance is requested by law enforcement, just like every other time, they’re happy to respond. It’s what they view their role to be.”

In another Jan. 6 incident, a group of Oath Keepers reported that they intervened in a potential conflict between an angry crowd of protesters and Capitol Police officer Harry Dunn.

Dunn “was armed with an M4/AR-15 and was very agitated, scared-looking and was surrounded by a bunch of yelling Trump supporters,” Rhodes said. “The Oath Keepers jumped in between and dialed it all back, calmed him down, calmed the Trump supporters down, and escorted that black police officer to other Capitol police officers and hooked him up with his buddies. So that he wasn’t by himself.”

Rhodes said he mentioned the race of the officer because his group is often falsely maligned as racist and composed of white supremacists.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1493 on: May 12, 2022, 08:44:19 AM »
" Polls have been showing that minorities, who are usually reliable Democrat voters, have been souring on the party, so there’s always a chance we’ll pivot to race riots. But then again, anti-SCOTUS march organizers have been performing logic corkscrews in an attempt to loop in the LGBTQ brigade, so maybe that cause will hold sway after all. But one thing’s certain: we’re going to see another summer of riots."

students can tell each other and their professors when they get back to school
that during the summer they

'SAVED DEMOCRACY"

"I FOUGHT RACISM GENDERISM SEXISM FASCISM NAZISM WHITE SUPREMACISM "

 and the response will be "that is cool"  8-)
 and they will get an  A in their LBGTQFU  class

[- I remember when I could boast about camp (when young) work when older and for one yr $550  for 5 - 6 week cross country trip]


we will also get floods of
and tiktot diaries
titled

An "influencer's summer  as a revolutionary'

with a million "followers"

probably mostly "bots"

me - I wonder if it works

I recall one of my last days in college
I sat with 2 girls in the college canteen
one who I had a crush on

and told them I was going cross country with a high school friend

the one I had a crush on was NOT impressed

perhaps if I told her I was going to burn down pro life headquarters
and get in the faces of Supreme Court justices she would have been more interested (she later became a lawyer)

one will never know

OTOH she probably just didn't like me   :oops:



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From Matt Bracken
« Reply #1496 on: May 16, 2022, 03:47:30 PM »
Matt Bracken

How America has changed. When I was a kid in the 60s, a post-WW2 family could live a solid middle class life in a 1,000 sq ft home, 2 BR one bath, as many kids as you wanted, on one income, with one car. Dad worked, mom raised the kids.

Then it was Mad Ave messaging "keep up with the Jones" on the boob tube until mom also "needed" to go to work to help pay for that 2-3,000 sq ft home, the second car, restaurant dining, etc. So, since mom "needed" to work, the gubbmint took over raising our kids. And did they ever!

Now the kids hate us, and they are being set up to live as "pod people" in 100 sq foot slave boxes. Eat bugs, own nothing, be happy. No room for a family in those pods, and what is a wife anyway, you sexist bigot dinosaur? Destroy the family, and you destroy everything about our culture and heritage.

Until some new Mao/Pol Pot comes along to preach, "Those old white cisgender Boomers and Gen Xers are living in their ill-gotten McMansions while you live in slave pods! Why, 5 or 6 of you (childless, unmarried) pod people could live in one of those lavish 2,000 sq ft Boomer McMansions! So, let's get rid of the Boomers, and take their stolen mansions!

That will be a winning message. And then it will be Year Zero, and geronticide. A couple generations who think it's nothing to "abort" full term human babies will find it a LOT easier to take old white racist Boomers out to a "resource reallocation center."

How can I write a novel about that? It's just too depressing.
Best advice? Move far away from cities. Move close to where food grows on a non-industrial scale, where there is lots of easily accessible water....

And keep your best rifle zeroed with your best box of ammunition.
And no matter what: don't get onto the bus, truck or train to the "old folks resource reallocation center."


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« Reply #1498 on: May 18, 2022, 09:09:20 PM »
https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2022/05/a-totalitarian-onslaught-against.html

Wednesday, May 18, 2022
A totalitarian onslaught against freedom on a worldwide scale
 

Novelist Ian Fleming had his James Bond character opine, "Once is happenstance;  twice is coincidence;  three times is enemy action".  That's a yardstick that's been used by many organizations to assess what's going on in the world, whether at war (as Fleming did when he worked for a British military intelligence organization during World War II) or at peace.

There are so many signs of organization behind the current chaos and disorder in the world that I'm forced to the conclusion it's not actually chaos and disorder at all.  It's enemy action:  organized, planned, and being carried out on a scale so vast it's almost unthinkable.  Yet, when one examines the evidence, it's extremely difficult to come to any other conclusion.  Let me lay it out, and see what you think.

I'm going to take several seemingly unrelated issues, examine each of them, then see whether they make more sense in isolation, or as part of an interwoven whole.  Let's start on a smaller scale, with mass shootings in the USA - particularly the Buffalo shooting last weekend.  The shooter's alleged manifesto or proclamation was initially scrubbed from the Internet whenever and wherever it appeared.  However, enough copies were cached that eventually whoever was behind that gave up the attempt, and it's now available from multiple sources.  (See, for example, here, if you're interested.)

The manifesto reads like a wish list from the ATF and other anti-gun campaigners.  Everything they're trying to ban or limit or restrict is listed in laborious, exhaustive detail - far more so than in other shooter manifestos I've read.  It's as if someone carefully prepared this manifesto as the foundation for legislative or regulatory action against those things, as soon as possible after it was made public.  The document also contains large sections of text basically lifted word-for-word from the manifesto of a mass shooting in New Zealand, as if the author couldn't be bothered to come up with his own justification in his own words and did it the lazy way.  Finally, the tone and language and grammar of the document changes multiple times, as though it had been written by multiple persons.  Anyone with linguistic education will pick up on that right away.

There are many more problems with the manifesto that others have uncovered:  see, for example, The Intrepid Reporter's (rather profane) analysis here, or a much shorter comment here.  Suffice it to say that I'm far from convinced that the manifesto is the work of the alleged shooter.  Rather, it looks to have been tailor-made as a springboard for anti-gun, anti-Second-Amendment proceedings.  It's tailored to the needs of its proposed audience, those who support the Biden administration and liberal anti-gun sentiments.  Go read it for yourself, look into the factors I've mentioned, and tell me I'm wrong.  (While you're doing that, consider the FBI's involvement in so many recent "extremist" cases such as the alleged plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan.  I'm hard pressed to think of any such case where the FBI wasn't involved in organizing, aiding or abetting it before it went down.  The Buffalo shooting appears to display similar fingerprints.)

Also, while you're at it, tell me why so many other recent mass shootings perpetrated by non-white criminals have simply dropped out of sight in the mainstream media.  It's as if they aren't newsworthy because their perpetrators aren't of a politically incorrect race.  However, the Buffalo shooting, where a white shooter targeted black victims, is suddenly everywhere in the news.  Yes, I find that suspicious.  It's almost as if it were deliberately being used as a casus belli to whip up minority outrage against other races.  What if there are a couple more such shootings?  Will we see BLM and Antifa lead mobs of rioters and looters on our streets again?  I won't be surprised if we do.

Putting all those factors together, I believe that the powers that be are deliberately cherry-picking incidents and orchestrating the response to them, both in the mainstream media and among minority groups.  They want to use them to foment unrest and violence.

Next, let's look at the impending famine worldwide.  I've written about it often enough in recent weeks (most recently here) that I'm sure you don't need me to recap all the details.  Michael Yon, who's as bearish on the subject as I am (if not more so) - after all, he and I have both seen famine at work at first hand in the Third World, and we know what we're talking about - said last week:




Famine creates famine, as war creates more war, fire creates fire. Famine collapses economies and destroys — physically destroys — critical infrastructure and social order required to produce food. Starvation feedback loop.

For the first time in generations, USA, Japan, and Europe will be unable to help without neglecting their own people. OGUS already is leaving American babies crying in hunger while feeding US-Russia war.

Global genocide is unfolding. Among the educated, only the blind and true conspiracy theorists will miss it. Until it eats them.




There's more at the link.  This morning, he added:




If you study famine now — and there is no time to waste, cancel vacation — you will have a vital roadmap to getting through this. Most famines are amazingly survivable for those who saw it coming and ducked.

There is great value in finding experienced preppers and listening closely. There is also a great value that few talk about — just study history for the patterns.

Be not Afraid — those who study and prepare will talk about this for the rest of their lives.




Again, more at the link.

Mr. Yon speaks of the famine as genocide:  "the deliberate murder of a whole community or race".  Is he wrong?  I'm not so sure he is.  After all, when one looks at the growing worldwide famine, one of the things one can't help but notice is the coordination behind official responses to it.

For example, Kit Knightly sees that coordination in the sudden boosting of genetically modified foods by all and sundry.




The proposed [Genetic Technology (Precision Breeding) Bill] ... follows on from DEFRA’s announced “loosened regulation” of genetic research back in January.

To quote the National Institute of Agricultural Botany (NIAB), the legislation would “take certain precision breeding techniques out of the scope of restrictive GMO rules”.

Essentially, this would see new “gene-edited” foods as distinct from old-fashioned “genetically modified” foods, and therefore not subject to the same rules and oversight.

. . .

What’s noteworthy is – by pure happenstance, I’m sure – it appears to coincide with a renewed push on the GM food front in other countries all over the world.

In December 2021, Switzerland added an amendment to its moratorium on GMO crops, permitting the use of certain “gene editing” techniques.

Last month, Egypt announced their new strain of GM wheat. Just two days ago, Ethiopia’s National Agricultural Biotechnology Research Center announced they had researched, and the country will now be growing, genetically modified cotton and maize.

Despite Russia’s sweeping ban on the cultivation and/or importing of genetically modified crops, they have nonetheless created a 111 billion Ruble project to create up to 30 varieties of genetically edited plants and farm animals.

Britain’s deregulation of GM food is always described as a “post-Brexit” move – with the EU chided around the world for its “precautionary principle” on GM crops – and yet as long ago as last April, the EU was calling for a “rethink” on GM crops.

In fact, just today, European Biotechnology Magazine reports:


The EU Commission has launched its final consultation on the deregulation of new breeding techniques in agriculture
So, we’re seeing a sudden increase in the variety of GM crops available and a simultaneous push for deregulation of the industry in Western nations.

Why would they be doing this now?

Well, there is a food crisis.

Or, more accurately, they have just created a food crisis. And as the cliched Hegelian dialectic inevitably goes, their manufactured “problem” is now in need of their contrived “solution”.

We should expect to see genetic engineering pitched as a solution to our food crisis in the very near future…like yesterday. Or indeed, two months ago.

That’s how fast they work now, with barely a pretence at concealing the plan. Spitting out the answer so fast they make it obvious they knew the question beforehand.




More at the link.  Do, please, follow the link at "just created a food crisis" and read that article carefully.  The author makes a strong case that what we're seeing today is not accidental, but planned.  If you read further in the article above, you'll find that a coordinated campaign appears to be ongoing in international mainstream media to promote the use of GM seeds and foods, as if to support the new laws and regulations and new strains of seed that are "suddenly" being announced.  Left unspoken is that those who hold the patents on the new GM foods (and who own the farms that grow them) will make yet another fortune, while those who don't use them will be marginalized - perhaps left without food altogether.  It's more than enough to make you think very hard.  The author goes so far as to call it "the next stage of the Great Reset?"

In the second article, Knightly sums up:




In summary…

1. A war which did not need to happen is driving up food and oil prices.

2. Sanctions which did not need to be put in place are also driving up food and oil prices.

3. Western allies are intentionally raising their oil prices.

4. Despite warning of a food crisis, US and UK are paying farmers not to farm.

5. A “bird flu epidemic” very much like the fake Covid “pandemic” is driving up the price of poultry and eggs.

6. Western companies are actively making the fertiliser shortages worse.

7. Bizarre fires are crippling large sections of the US food industry.

Taken individually maybe these points could all be seen as mistakes or coincidences, but when you put them all together it’s not hard to spot the pattern. The press may claim we are “sleepwalking” into a food crisis, but it looks more like they’re running head-first into it.

After years of saying there’s a food shortage on the way, it looks like they might be about to finally actually create one.




More at the link.

I'm looking at the same evidence from the other side of the Atlantic, and I can't dispute Mr. Knightly's analysis at all.  Mr. Yon's allegation that what we're seeing is preparation for genocide looks more and more convincing when you put the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle together.

Let's look at the COVID-19 pandemic as another example of an internationally planned conspiracy.  From its obscure origins (which are still being deliberately obfuscated by China and the World Health Organization), to vaccines that have proven anything but effective (but have made billions for those creating and selling them) and have had side-effects that may kill or cripple millions of people, to attempts to cover up the whole mess . . . we all know what's been going on.  Yet, despite their failures, official bodies like the CDC are still trying to reimpose mask mandates that have been proven not to work.  The complete disappearance of influenza cases from world health statistics during 2021-2022 is yet more evidence that an ordinary illness was misdiagnosed as a pandemic - yet few people ever talk about it.  There's so much evidence of conspiracy behind COVID-19 that it's overwhelming, yet the mainstream media resolutely refuse to discuss it.

COVID-19 provided a live experiment in real time of how a manufactured health crisis could be used to control people, to force them to conform to official dictates.  That's why the WHO and numerous governments are currently trying to impose new health care mandates that will override national laws and constitutions, as we discussed a couple of days ago.  Pandemics offer a way to bypass all restrictions on control, destroy individual and national rights and freedoms, and impose a dictatorship of science and health (although in reality they'll just be fronts for the oligarchs and others who are pulling their strings).  We've talked about this before, so I won't bother to go into details again.

(Oh - an interesting twist, in the light of the discussion above on genetically edited, or engineered, or modified foods.  Remember that scientists are trying to add COVID-19 and other vaccines to edible plants.  As you eat your salad, you'll be vaccinated whether you like it or not.  Interesting combination of interests, isn't it?  Scary, too, given the disastrous side-effects of some COVID-19 vaccines . . .)

Let's turn to the policies of the Biden administration - or, at least, what we call the Biden administration.  In reality, of course, it's not his administration at all.  He's senile.  He's not capable of thinking of anything much, let alone policies and governing the country.  He's being manipulated as a "front man" by much more sinister forces behind him.  Elon Musk was absolutely correct when, a couple of days ago, he said that “The real president is whoever controls the teleprompter ... The path to power is the path to the teleprompter.”  Biden's no more than a figurehead.

The policies of the administration are clearly designed to disrupt, if not destroy, the US economy as it's presently structured.  Just look at fuel.  Its price has more than doubled since the administration took office;  vital pipelines have not been approved;  vital drilling permits have not been issued and some existing permits have been canceled.  If they wanted to make fuel more expensive and harder to get, they couldn't possibly have done a better job.

Look at employment.  Unemployment benefits are still so high that it's more cost-effective for blue-collar workers to be unemployed than to find work - but businesses are desperate for workers, and are scrambling to fill vacancies at great cost to themselves.  I'm seeing this at first hand as I struggle to complete renovations and upgrades to our home.  Contractor after contractor has had to postpone coming out here because their staff is so overworked, they have to give priority to bigger and more important customers.  Some have actually turned down my request for a quotation, saying they can't take on any new business because they don't have the staff to do so.  Yet, the administration continues policies that make it more difficult for businesses to employ the people they need.

Look at inflation.  It's not just the current administration that's laid the foundation for what we're currently experiencing:  it's been going on under both Democratic and Republican administrations for years.  However, the past year and a half has seen enormous additional expenditures and outlays that have made the situation much, much worse.  The current administration is responsible for that, and its fiscal recklessness has doubled down on inflation to the point that it's become stagflation.  The economy and the fiscus are being totally, and in my opinion deliberately, mismanaged.  We're all feeling the pain - and it's going to get worse.

I could go on and on about the fecklessness and misguided policies of the administration, except that I no longer believe they're either feckless or misguided.  They're deliberate, IMHO, and what we're seeing in our economy is nothing less than a deliberate attempt to collapse it.  The powers that be appear to believe that they can impose their brutal agenda on this country if they smash it first - and, at least in the "blue" parts of the country, they appear to be succeeding.

Look, too, at the invasion of our country by illegal aliens, aided and abetted by the administration.  Literally millions have swarmed into the USA since the administration took office, and millions more will be coming.  We spoke about the worldwide refugee crisis earlier this week.  It's getting worse by the day, and will continue to do so.  Michael Yon, yesterday:




My estimate: Panama migration corridor will explode in December/January far beyond any historical volumes.

1) Darien area dry season normally begins late December. Migration volume increases annually at this time.

2) Global famines/collapses creating massive HOP — Human Osmotic Pressure.

3) USG is facilitating smooth flows through Darien up to Costa Rica.

Literally millions could come through Panama 2023, and even more in 2024. Especially by bypassing Darien by using boats from Colombia. This thought already is being floated here.




More at the link.

Mr. Yon has already pointed out how the US government and left-wing aid agencies (take a bow, George Soros!) are actively aiding and abetting the flow of illegal aliens through the Darien Gap and Panama to our border with Mexico.  IMHO, it's little less than treason.

A few days ago, Mr. Yon proceeded to link famine to the Darien Gap situation.  Some people (perhaps many) will find his conclusions far-fetched.  I've had all too much experience in the Third World, including real famine.  I don't.




OGUS [Occupying Government of the USA] is setting stage for e-rationing.

Attacking babies with a contrived shortage [of baby formula] evokes emotional anchor to force people into emotional corner.

. . .

Can’t make an omelet without cracking some babies.

Psaki blames ‘hoarders’ for lack of baby formula as she pushes the narrative to send 40 billion more dollars in American labors into the US-Russia war in Ukraine. Accelerating the global famine. A famine on schedule to begin this year and devastate much of the world in 2023-24 and beyond. After that 40 billion, they will demand another harvest of American wealth and blood to defend Ukraine, the country that paid off crack-addict Biden and “The Big Guy.”

Note: All governments always blame hoarders for the food shortages during famine. All. Always. They cause the events. Then blame the victims. They institute price controls, rationing systems, and start raiding homes and others for ‘hoarding.’ Expect raids in the future. Remember they did same with PPE (Personal Protective Equipment like masks and gloves) at outset of pandemic. AFTER the government had depleted strategic inventories Before the pandemic).

This is an attack. We are under attack.

Meanwhile, here in Panama, the Darien Gap is being prepared for a fantastic surge in ‘migration’ later this year. Dry season begins December/January and will coincide with serious onset of famine in areas around the world. Famine will create increased HOP — Human Osmotic Pressure — that will pump massive invasion into United States as our coffers are bled dry, American babies have no formula, and our own food supply thins by the hour.

Predictably, there already are proposals to send American food inventories abroad to assuage famine. This is a fool’s game. At best. At worst this is another form of direct attack. After all, we simply do not have enough food. Period. They will still starve to death a little later, or be energized to move somewhere else such as to America to help Americans starve to death.

The United States is creating condition for actual famine in United States. Famine as in not just food shortages but people eating people and people being eaten by birds.




More at the link.

I could go on, and on, and on, picking on events and trends and incidents and using them to support my case:  but what's the point?  If I haven't given enough evidence already to convince you, you won't change your mind if I provide more.  To my mind, the accumulation of evidence in all these separate areas is utterly convincing when you put them all together.  We are not facing a series of accidents, or coincidences, or unrelated trends.  We're seeing multiple facets of the same threat to our independence, our constitution, our human rights.  We're seeing a totalitarian onslaught against freedom on a worldwide scale.

The USA has always been a beacon of freedom.  Unless we wake up, and do something about this, that will end Real. Soon. Now.






In the light of everything I've discussed, I challenge anyone to tell me I'm wrong, and make a convincing case.  I'm listening.

Peter