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« Reply #1703 on: November 22, 2022, 07:58:05 AM »
remember how we heard about Justice Thomas' wife being connected to Republicans

so this makes sense to point out:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/21/wife-special-counsel-trump-probe-contributed-campaigns-joe-biden-rashida-tlaib/

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Sentences in the Whitmer Kidnapping Plot
« Reply #1706 on: December 15, 2022, 03:15:04 PM »


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Lengthy prison terms for 3 who aided Whitmer kidnap plotter
Story by By JOEY CAPPELLETTI and ED WHITE, Associated Press • 17h ago
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JACKSON, Mich. (AP) — A judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020.

Paul Bellar, left, Pete Musico and Jospeh Morrison appear for sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

Paul Bellar, left, Pete Musico and Jospeh Morrison appear for sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

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Joe Morrison, Pete Musico and Paul Bellar were not charged with having a direct role in the conspiracy. But they were members of a paramilitary group that trained with Adam Fox, who separately faces a possible life sentence on Dec. 27 for his federal conviction.

The trio was convicted in October of providing material support for a terrorist act, which carries a maximum term of 20 years, and two other crimes.

Musico was sentenced to a minimum of 12 years in prison, followed by his son-in-law Morrison at 10 years and Bellar at seven. They will be eligible for release after serving those terms, but any decision rests solely with the Michigan parole board.

FILE - This combo of undated booking photos provided by Alvin S. Glenn Detention Center, left, and Jackson County Sheriff's Office, show, from left, Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico. The three men who forged an early alliance with the leader of a plot to kidnap Michigan's governor will return to court on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022, and are facing potentially lengthy sentences for assisting him in the months before the FBI broke up the cabal in 2020. (Alvin S. Glenn Detention Center and Jackson County Sheriff's Office via AP, File)

FILE - This combo of undated booking photos provided by Alvin S. Glenn Detention Center, left, and Jackson County Sheriff's Office, show, from left, Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico. The three men who forged an early alliance with the leader of a plot to kidnap Michigan's governor will return to court on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022, and are facing potentially lengthy sentences for assisting him in the months before the FBI broke up the cabal in 2020. (Alvin S. Glenn Detention Center and Jackson County Sheriff's Office via AP, File)

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Speaking in a recorded video, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer urged Judge Thomas Wilson to "impose a sentence that meets the gravity of the damage they have done to our democracy.”

“A conspiracy to kidnap and kill a sitting governor of the state of Michigan is a threat to democracy itself,” said Whitmer, who added that she now scans crowds for risks and worries “about the fate of everyone near me.”

Wilson presided over the first batch of convictions in state court, following the high-profile conspiracy convictions of four others in federal court. Fox and Barry Croft Jr. were described as captains of an incredible plan to snatch Whitmer from her vacation home, seeking to inspire a U.S. civil war known as the “boogaloo.”

Jospeh Morrison appears for sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

Jospeh Morrison appears for sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

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Whitmer, a Democrat recently elected to a second term, was never physically harmed. Undercover FBI agents and informants were inside Fox’s group for months, and the scheme was broken up with 14 arrests in October 2020.

Someone convicted of more than one crime in Michigan typically gets prison sentences that simply run at the same time. But Wilson took the unusual step of ordering consecutive sentences for Musico and Morrison, making their minimum stays longer. Besides a conviction for supporting terrorism, the three men were also convicted of a gun crime and for being members of a gang.

Musico, Morrison and Bellar belonged to the Wolverine Watchmen. The three held gun training with Fox and shared his disgust for Whitmer, police and public officials, especially after COVID-19 restrictions disrupted the economy and triggered armed Capitol protests and anti-government belligerence.

They were running a “terrorism training camp in Jackson County,” Assistant Attorney General Sunita Doddamani told the judge.

The men expressed remorse, moments after Whitmer in her video said they had failed to take responsibility.

 Related video: 5 men to stand trial in Whitmer kidnapping plot (The Associated Press)


Musico, 45, cried while acknowledging a “lack of judgment.” Morrison, 28, said he was “renouncing, disavowing and detesting” anti-government ideologies. Bellar, 24, was the last to speak, publicly apologizing for abhorrent remarks about the governor.

“I was caught up highly in the moment,” Bellar said. “I felt I had lost a lot of camaraderie after being discharged from the Army. That was the reason I joined the Wolverine Watchmen in the first place."

Paul Bellar leaves the courtroom afer sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

Paul Bellar leaves the courtroom afer sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)
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Defense lawyers still plan vigorous appeals. They argued at trial that the men had cut ties with Fox before the Whitmer plot came into focus by late summer of 2020; Bellar had moved to South Carolina in July.

They also didn’t travel with Fox to look for the governor’s second home or participate in a key training session inside a “shoot house” in Luther, Michigan.

“If Mr. Bellar wanted to be part of the kidnapping of the governor, he would have stayed here. ... He could have held on like a rock, like a tick in that apartment,” defense attorney Andrew Kirkpatrick said.

A jury, however, quickly returned guilty verdicts in October after hearing nine days of testimony, mostly evidence offered by federal agents and a pivotal FBI informant, Dan Chappel, who secretly recorded conversations.

“The Wolverine Watchmen misappropriated the word ‘patriot’ all the time for a really unpatriotic objective, you know, killing fellow Americans. ... Dan is what really a patriot is," Doddamani said Thursday.

Separately, in federal court in Grand Rapids, Fox and Croft face possible life sentences this month. Two men who pleaded guilty received substantial breaks: Ty Garbin is free after a 2 1/2-year prison term while Kaleb Franks was given a four-year sentence. Brandon Caserta and Daniel Harris were acquitted by a jury.

Paul Bellar appears for sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

Paul Bellar appears for sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)
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When the plot was foiled, Whitmer blamed then-President Donald Trump, saying he had given "comfort to those who spread fear and hatred and division.” In August, after 19 months out of office, Trump said the kidnapping plan was a “fake deal.”

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White reported from Detroit. Joey Cappelletti is a corps member for The Associated Press/Report for America Statehouse News Initiative. Report for America is a nonprofit national service program that places journalists in local newsrooms to report on undercovered issues.

Paul Bellar appears for sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

Paul Bellar appears for sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)
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Pete Musico appears for sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

Pete Musico appears for sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)
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Michigan Governor Kidnapping Plot
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Michigan Attorney General assistant prosecutor Sunita Doddamani makes a point in the sentencing for Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

Michigan Attorney General assistant prosecutor Sunita Doddamani makes a point in the sentencing for Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)
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Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson sentences Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson sentences Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)
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Pete Musico with attorney Kareem Johnson as he appears for sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

Pete Musico with attorney Kareem Johnson as he appears for sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)
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Joseph Morrison leaves the courtroom afer sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

Joseph Morrison leaves the courtroom afer sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)
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Pete Musico leaves the courtroom afer sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)

Pete Musico leaves the courtroom afer sentencing in front of Jackson County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wilson on Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022 in Jackson, Mich. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were accused of being involved in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. ( J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP)
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« Reply #1707 on: December 15, 2022, 03:36:21 PM »
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Three Men Sentenced to Prison in Scheme to Kidnap Michigan Governor

Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer speaks during a news conference after thirteen people, including seven men associated with the Wolverine Watchmen militia group, were arrested for alleged plots to take Whitmer hostage and attack the state capitol building, in Lansing, Mich., October 8, 2020.(Michigan Governor's office/Handout via Reuters)
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Three men found guilty of “providing material support for a terrorist act” in connection with the foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer were sentenced to prison on Thursday.

Joe Morrison, Pete Musico and Paul Bellar were members of a paramilitary group, the Wolverine Watchmen, that trained with Adam Fox, who was the alleged leader in the scheme, according to prosecutors. The three men were not charged with having a direct role in the plot but were also charged with gun violations and membership in a gang.

Musico was sentenced to a minimum of 12 years in prison. Morrison, who is Musico’s son in law, was sentenced to ten years and Bellar received a seven-year sentence. They will be eligible for parole after serving those terms, according to the Associated Press.

Whitmer asked the judge to “impose a sentence that meets the gravity of the damage they have done to our democracy.”

“A conspiracy to kidnap and kill a sitting governor of the state of Michigan is a threat to democracy itself,” the governor said, adding that she is now hypervigilant in crowds and worries “about the fate of everyone near me.”

The federal government charged six other men on the federal charge of conspiracy to kidnap in connection with the plot in October 2020. Two men were acquitted by a jury, one received a prison sentence of four years and the other received a two-and-a-half year sentence.

The two others, Fox and Barry Croft, face a maximum sentence of life in prison after being convicted of the kidnapping conspiracy and one count of conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction. The pair allegedly devised a plot to blow up a bridge near the governor’s home to thwart the government’s response to the planned kidnapping

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J6 man accused of plotting assassination of FBI agents
« Reply #1708 on: December 18, 2022, 06:34:19 AM »
https://www.theepochtimes.com/jan-6-defendant-conspired-to-kill-fbi-agents-filing_4930334.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&src_src=Morningbrief&utm_campaign=mb-2022-12-18&src_cmp=mb-2022-12-18&utm_medium=email&est=wDhKAQnliQ2w9xGz1mtF7sMjKTIKrogZn%2Fglxd8QMkpfyqS%2Bx9fM7Y2AWmZn9sRMWXmj

A man identified as Edward Kelley inside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. (U.S. DOJ via The Epoch Times)
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Jan. 6 Defendant Conspired to Kill FBI Agents: Filing
By Zachary Stieber December 17, 2022 Updated: December 18, 2022biggersmaller Print



A man who allegedly entered the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, is now being accused of conspiring to kill FBI agents.

Edward Kelley, 33, has been charged with conspiracy, solicitation to commit a crime of violence, and other charges, according to a criminal complaint unsealed on Dec. 16.

Kelley, of Tennessee, had been free on personal recognizance after being arrested and charged in May with crimes related to the Capitol breach, including assault, destruction of government property, and disorderly conduct.

According to the new complaint, Kelley had identified dozens of law enforcement personnel involved in the investigation into him. A witness who later approached authorities in Maryville was part of a meeting between Kelley and Austin Carter, another Tennessee man, on Dec. 3. During the meeting, Kelley stated that they were going to “mainly conduct recon missions and assassination missions,” according to the witness.

Kelley allegedly asked Carter, 26, and the witness to gather intelligence on the personnel on the list. Kelley allegedly told the witness to “reach out to your cop buddies” to get the intelligence. Kelley allegedly asked the witness if he owned guns and when the witness answered affirmatively, Kelley said it was good that the witness wanted to get a magnifier as the group would do “more long distance things.”

The witness “understood KELLEY’s statements to be referring to assassinations,” according to the complaint.

Ten days later, Carter and the witness were working together at an unidentified place of employment when Carter gave an envelope to the witness, the document states. Carter said to open it later and burn it when finished. Carter said he received the envelope from Kelley.

When the witness left and opened the envelope, the witness found the list and a thumb drive, according to the complaint. Within hours, the witness contacted law enforcement.

The witness, who was not identified, then agreed to tape conversations with Kelley and Carter. During one of the calls, Kelley purportedly said that if he was arrested, to “start it,” adding, “You guys are taking them out at their office.”

“If the same thing happens to any of you guys, I’m doing the same thing, okay?” Kelley was quoted as saying. He later answered yes when the witness inquired if he was talking about the Knoxville office.

A lawyer representing Kelley did not return a request for comment.

“Mr. Carter maintains his innocence and we look forward to zealously defending him against these allegations,” Joshua Hedrick, an attorney for Carter, told Reuters.

Both Kelley and Carter have been taken into custody, according to the court docket.

“Today’s allegations that individuals sought to attack and hurt or kill FBI personnel are sickening. FBI employees honorably perform their duties protecting the American public and upholding the Constitution and they should be able to execute these duties without threats of violence,” FBI Director Christopher Wray said in a statement.

Kelley has said he attended the Trump rally on Jan. 6, 2021, in Washington. He traveled to Washington from Tennessee with another individual.

Kelley spoke twice with FBI agents in June 2021 to discuss the trip, according to court papers. Kelley said he walked around the outside of the Capitol but did not enter the building.

But photographs and surveillance video showed Kelley did enter the building, according to an FBI agent.

Kelley, wearing a black hooded sweatshirt, a dark tan backpack, a gas mask, and a green tactical helmet moved from the Peace Monument and helped others throw a U.S. Capitol Police officer to the ground, according to the images. He allegedly broke a window at the Capitol and entered the building through the broken window.

Kelley was part of the group who asked officer Eugene Goodman where lawmakers were counting electoral votes. Goodman led them away from the Senate chamber, but Kelley and others eventually entered the chamber’s gallery.

Kelley was later spotted in the Capitol rotunda before exiting the building. He was inside for about 40 minutes, the agent said in an earlier complaint.

Kelley was charged with assault, unlawful entry, obstruction of law enforcement during civil disorder, and other counts.

Kelley has pleaded not guilty.

In the order setting conditions for his being free while the case is ongoing, Kelley was ordered not to violate federal, state, or local law.

Marina Medvin, who had been representing Kelley in the Jan. 6 case, entered a motion to withdraw on Friday. In the brief motion, Medvin said that she and Kelley were jointly seeking the withdrawal.

“This is a felony matter that is currently still assigned to a Magistrate Judge (although an indictment is expected to be docketed next week), there is no trial date, the defendant’s case will not be delayed, and the withdrawal is not expected to have a material adverse effect on the interests of the client or his case,” Medvin wrote. “Mr. Kelley will seek for this court to appoint counsel for all future proceedings.”
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Second American Civil War, 106 attacks on the electric grid
« Reply #1711 on: December 27, 2022, 06:34:49 AM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/who-purposely-sabotaging-power-plants-all-over-america

106 attacks on the electric grid.

In what thread does the work the FBI won't do for?
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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1712 on: December 27, 2022, 06:42:50 AM »
"In what thread does the work the TBI won't do for?"

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1713 on: December 27, 2022, 06:55:35 AM »
Oops, FBI.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1714 on: December 27, 2022, 07:03:19 AM »
Tough question.

Sometimes it will be "The War on the Rule of Law/Deep State" and sometimes it will be here.  Feel free to post in both and/or other relevant threads.  The point is to have these threads be research tools/historical record defense against the memory hole as well as present tense conversation.

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Re: Second American Civil War, 106 attacks on the electric grid
« Reply #1715 on: December 27, 2022, 07:05:34 AM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/who-purposely-sabotaging-power-plants-all-over-america

106 attacks on the electric grid.

https://victorygirlsblog.com/power-substations-sabotaged-on-christmas/

What's going on here.

Clearly an act of war, times hundreds.

How about we investigate and fight back?

First step might be to get the FBI out of every time wasting activity they are currently engaged in, cf school board meetings and political social media.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1716 on: December 27, 2022, 07:12:35 AM »
Well, closing the border and deporting the five million illegals might be a real good idea too.  It seems quite plausible that bad actors are among the five million.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1717 on: December 27, 2022, 08:17:55 AM »
"Well, closing the border and deporting the five million illegals might be a real good idea too"

can this be accomplished before they have "anchor babies"?

then the left will bemoan "they are splitting up families".  :roll:

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1718 on: December 27, 2022, 08:40:47 AM »
You anticipate correctly.


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Wow from MSNBC no less
« Reply #1720 on: December 28, 2022, 07:00:58 AM »
"As Rep. Jamie Raskin insisted during the president’s trial, “this case is much worse than someone who falsely shouts fire in a crowded theater.” This oft-repeated phrase is of dubious provenance and has no legal merit."

he just shot short a shyster (can you say 3 x fast?)
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The Sumter Gambit
« Reply #1721 on: December 30, 2022, 05:07:07 PM »
I have no idea about the book, but the hypothesis certainly resonates , , ,

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What is the Sumter Gambit? It’s the concerted effort by the Left to push the most extreme policies and ideologies into American public life, while simultaneously labeling any opposition to their overreach as treason.

While this strategy has been developed for decades, only since the Trump years has it become their central organizing principle¾and, indeed, the only governing strategy of the Democratic party. Critical Race Theory in schools, extreme gun control and abortion laws, Covid lockdowns and mandates–and all that is just the beginning.

The purpose of it all is to push non-Leftist Americans into an impossible corner–where they are forced to choose between giving up their liberty and their most dearly-held principles; going to jail; or fighting back. When the last becomes the only choice, the Left plans to unleash the entire might of the Military-Industrial Complex to defeat and destroy any vestiges of dissent. They’ll have to do it, they’ll say, to protect us from an “insurrection.”

At that point, we will have the Civil War that they have wanted, and planned for, since at least the 1960s.

The Sumter Gambit is a brisk primer on the primary differences between the two camps in America today, and the ways in which Americans can and must act now to preserve our nation. We must strengthen the country against its internal enemies who want to silence their opposition and impose upon us a radical Leftist ideology that is in the process of transforming America into a land no one would ever dream of calling the Land of the Free or the Home of the Brave.

There is no doubt that America is suffering from grave crises today. Here the noted political analyst, Islam expert, and historian Robert Spencer shows just how severe those crises are–and points the way back from the brink of civil war to political, societal, and cultural sanity.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1723 on: December 31, 2022, 09:40:25 AM »
I wonder what Democrat media outlet Kinzinger  will wind up with this new yr.

Making 100,000s per yr bashing Republicans for few hrs a week work


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Who attacked the grid?
« Reply #1726 on: January 02, 2023, 11:51:46 AM »
Best guess is eco-terrorists or some spinoff of the old Occupy Wall Street and WTO 1999 anti-prosperity protesters, which may all be one and the same, perhaps new generations.

Who is accurate with a rifle from 200 yards?  That's a short list and I'm not on it.

All we may ever get from so-called 'federal law enforcement' is, "can't comment on an ongoing investigation".

https://nypost.com/2022/12/29/could-eco-terrorists-be-behind-attacks-on-us-power-stations/

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1727 on: January 02, 2023, 09:42:33 PM »
"Who is accurate with a rifle from 200 yards?  That's a short list and I'm not on it."

Lots of hunters are.

Eco-terrorists do strike me as a plausible possibility.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1728 on: January 03, 2023, 06:47:08 AM »
It makes sense on motive it is eco terrorists attacking our grid but I would expect them to be more vegan than sharp shooting hunters.

Then there is the question of communications and coordination for over a hundred attacks per year.  And knowledge, they know exactly what to hit with what kind of force.  And recruitment.

Where is the investigation?  Where are the wanted posters? How about one wanted poster?  One witness?  One arrest?  I doubt I could shoot one urban squirrel without arrest and a federal firearms charge, and they're taking out regions of electricity like Russia in Ukraine.  Without consequence!

On communications, there is the beehive theory. Each doing his part without direct communication with the others.

If this is to make a point with the threat of doing more, why isn't some group taking responsibility?

Like election fraud, one more mystery of our time.
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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1729 on: January 03, 2023, 07:13:13 AM »
FWIW on FB I regularly see a lefty post calling on people to have the Governor fight Duke Power's new plan- whatever it is.   Never read the substance of it, next time I see it I will give it a read.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1730 on: January 03, 2023, 08:02:13 AM »
my liberal associate of course states it is white supremacists to blame for electric grid attacks .  :roll:

and there is NO PROOF The Wuhan virus came from a lab.....
"of course", I say "Chinese covered it all up "  to a smirk and silence ....

**blind** partisanship

Republicans are worse than Nazis .




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Jan 6, Remembering Ray Epps Day
« Reply #1731 on: January 06, 2023, 03:31:09 AM »
"I orchestrated it."
   - Ray Epps

Video: https://twitter.com/MissN0b0dy1/status/1346660587636477954


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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1732 on: January 06, 2023, 06:18:29 AM »
"I orchestrated it."
   - Ray Epps

I don't think an entrapment defense has a chance in hell
though.

Not against the mob.


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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1734 on: January 16, 2023, 09:57:46 AM »
David is one of our fiercest warriors

and especially unusual since he started out as a full blooded commie:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz

" His mother's family emigrated from Imperial Russia in the mid-19th century, and his father's family left Russia in 1905 during a time of anti-Jewish pogroms."

my mother used to tell me her father escaped Russian Ukraine during the Russian Revolution .

I am not clear if she knew, but I later found it was the "first" Russian Revolution (1905) not 1917 like I think she thought.

She was born here in 1919.

Maybe I am related to Horowitz or even Zelensky ?  :-o





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Ray Epps still free as a bird...
« Reply #1736 on: January 26, 2023, 11:21:07 PM »

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Re: Ray Epps still free as a bird...
« Reply #1737 on: January 27, 2023, 05:49:25 AM »
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/402909.php

Any ideas why?

I agree.  We won't really understand Jan 6 until we solve the Ray Epps question and a couple other unsolved mysteries like Nancy Pelosi turning down security and her daughter knowing when and where to film Ray Epps. Did that really happen?

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1738 on: January 27, 2023, 06:04:32 AM »
"But -- and here's the new news -- the Regime and its mouthpieces like the Washington Post insist he entered "after" others had breached the fence."

"This new video shows Epps leading the crowd to the fence, and is among the first dozen people to go through the fence."

his egging people on certainly sounds like a case for "entrapment" could be made at least for people seen following his directions........

of course a lawyer's opinion on this would be better then my opinion  :-D




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The dem paramilitary forces
« Reply #1739 on: January 27, 2023, 07:02:53 AM »

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1743 on: February 07, 2023, 06:53:54 AM »
she was shot literally ~ 2 mi from where I live

 :-o

a Republican !


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civil war clock 2.0
« Reply #1745 on: February 09, 2023, 09:16:06 AM »
7) Common violence. Organized violence is occurring monthly.
8) Opposing sides develop governing/war structures. Just in case.
9) Common violence that is generally deemed by governmental authorities as justified based on ideology.
10) Open War

I missed #'s 1 to 6

#8 is already being done by the LEFT elites and military and Universities , government media :

FBI CIA surveil Americans via internet spy cameras commerce (money exchanges )
                (the central government cryto coin that is coming )
            increase IRS agents by 10s of thousands
            publicly announce that white people are the biggest threat to our
             democracy
            indoctrinate the military to wokism
            establishing all the propaganda tools machinary needed to control thought
                speech
            work closely with the monied players and large companies establishing a
                true fascist controlling authoritarian government
            only leftist woksters in judiciary , executive branch, rig all elections
            cheat lie extort racketeer gaslight
            work to limit guns , put kill buttons in cars along with tracking GPS on
               movements

off the top of my head
I am sure others can add to the list of things the LEFT is doing while gearing up for Civil War 2.0


           

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Second NJ council member murder
« Reply #1746 on: February 09, 2023, 05:04:08 PM »
   
 
BREAKING THIS AM… *ANOTHER* REPUBLICAN NJ COUNCILMAN GUNNED DOWN… Second Republican Council Member Shot Dead A Week After Unsolved Murder Of Colleague

A New Jersey councilmember was shot and killed in his car Wednesday, according to local authorities, just a week after a state councilwoman was murdered in a similar fashion.

Republican New Jersey councilmember Russel Heller, 51, was discovered dead in his car shortly after 7:00 a.m. Wednesday in the parking lot of his employer, local energy company PSE&G, according to the Somerset County Prosecutor’s Office. A former employee, Gary Curtis, 58, was identified as a suspect in the shooting and was found dead in his car three hours later from what is currently suspected to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Heller’s death occurred exactly one week after the assassination of Republican councilwoman Eunice Dwumfour, who was also shot and killed in her vehicle by a currently unidentified suspect. Dwumfour’s death occurred just 15 miles from Heller’s death. Somerset County Prosecutor’s office stated that the two murders are not linked.

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