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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #106 on: June 04, 2021, 07:05:16 PM »
Can't say that I am upset in this case.  High risk area with high risk consequences.

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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #107 on: June 04, 2021, 07:25:34 PM »
Can't say that I am upset in this case.  High risk area with high risk consequences.

A desolate, frozen flatland is hardly a high risk area. But, hey Iran needs the money for it's nukes, so....

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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too, (ANWR)
« Reply #108 on: June 05, 2021, 06:20:40 AM »
Can't say that I am upset in this case.  High risk area with high risk consequences.

  Please explain.

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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #109 on: June 05, 2021, 06:50:01 AM »
Pristine nature of importance, one of the few remaining places essentially untouched, fragile to oil spills.  We've got tons of oil and gas elsewhere.  No need to take the risk here.


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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #110 on: June 05, 2021, 08:18:54 AM »
Pristine nature of importance, one of the few remaining places essentially untouched, fragile to oil spills.  We've got tons of oil and gas elsewhere.  No need to take the risk here.

Thank you.  I disagree.    )

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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #111 on: June 05, 2021, 08:37:39 AM »
 :-)

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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #114 on: September 14, 2021, 06:19:47 PM »
The question is will Biden fire Milley?

There is no indication
  so far that he would do so


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Biden has full confidence in Milley
« Reply #116 on: September 15, 2021, 03:30:33 PM »

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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #117 on: September 15, 2021, 05:33:43 PM »
Apparently there were 15 people authorized to listen in on the call?

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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #118 on: September 15, 2021, 05:57:59 PM »
one thing about Woodward

few people usually ever to my knowledge claim what he writes is not true to the best of his reporting

(except of course who denies anything negative about him)

As for Milley this is totally consistent with his previous statements about Trump

I recall somewhere it being reported he was terrified of Trumps rants and raves

That said I am not clear where he got the idea Trump might start a nuclear war with China on January 7th.....

I have no confidence he or anyone on the Left will demand he step down.

Except for Leon Panetta who has zero power etc.

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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #119 on: September 15, 2021, 06:06:22 PM »
We have all seen his manic tweets storms

when he is opposed

One can only imagine what it must be like seeing him RAGE in person

it could well be terrifying and unpredictable

I don't know.........   

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Woodward accuracy issues
« Reply #120 on: September 15, 2021, 06:52:46 PM »
https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/10/bob-woodward-accuracy-issues-watergate-trump/

one thing about Woodward

few people usually ever to my knowledge claim what he writes is not true to the best of his reporting

(except of course who denies anything negative about him)

As for Milley this is totally consistent with his previous statements about Trump

I recall somewhere it being reported he was terrified of Trumps rants and raves

That said I am not clear where he got the idea Trump might start a nuclear war with China on January 7th.....

I have no confidence he or anyone on the Left will demand he step down.

Except for Leon Panetta who has zero power etc.
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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #121 on: September 16, 2021, 01:59:52 AM »
The Daily Caller's piece is my sense of Woodward. 

As plausible as the story is to our confirmation bias, we need to remember to consider the responses.  If there were 15 people on our end of the call, then there is some serious bureaucratic paper trail to be tracked.

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Who manages Biden?
« Reply #122 on: September 16, 2021, 06:43:27 AM »

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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #123 on: September 16, 2021, 07:48:39 AM »
The Daily Caller's piece is my sense of Woodward. 

As plausible as the story is to our confirmation bias, we need to remember to consider the responses.  If there were 15 people on our end of the call, then there is some serious bureaucratic paper trail to be tracked.

Yes.

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indictment but miles from a conviction
« Reply #124 on: September 16, 2021, 06:40:06 PM »
A DC lawyer

who thinks this will stick?

Well he does have 2 strikes agains him. - he is white and male
though usually that if forgiven if he is a democrat:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/hillary-clinton-linked-perkins-coie-lawyer-indicted-durhams-investigation-fbis-russia-collusion-canard/

I have no faith in anything anymore
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Re: indictment but miles from a conviction
« Reply #125 on: September 16, 2021, 06:59:41 PM »
Not going to VOAT HARDER?


A DC lawyer

who thinks this will stick?

Well he does have 2 strikes agains him. - he is white and male
though usually that if forgiven if he is a democrat:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/hillary-clinton-linked-perkins-coie-lawyer-indicted-durhams-investigation-fbis-russia-collusion-canard/

I have no faith in anything anymore



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spoke to his DC and military dem lawyers
« Reply #128 on: September 17, 2021, 05:45:01 AM »
and now claims what he admits to doing (of course as CD points out there are plenty of witnesses) was totally legit:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/milley-trump-china-calls/2021/09/17/id/1036825/

so the fight is on and with Dems in power nothing will happen

he will as GM points out put on his makeup , pull his dress out of the closet and continue to make every military person read CRT

and screw the rest of us if we don't like it, because WEEZ THE ENEMY

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Shockingly, a federal agency targets a person because of their political stance!
« Reply #129 on: September 17, 2021, 05:49:18 PM »
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/395642.php

I know, not here in America! Unpossible!

WE MUST VOTE AT THE DEEP STATE!



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WT: Milley should be court martialed
« Reply #132 on: August 31, 2022, 03:07:45 AM »
Why Gen. Mark Milley should be courtmartialed

The most egregious examples of treasonous subversion by a commissioned officer since Benedict Arnold

By Chris Farrell

Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, should be subject to an Article 32 Hearing under the provisions of the Uniform Code of Military Justice for his conduct and statements as memorialized in the Bob Woodward book “Peril,” and the Aug. 8, 2022, New Yorker magazine excerpt of a forthcoming book by Susan B. Glasser and Peter Baker.

An Article 32 Hearing is the military equivalent of a civilian grand jury, and should probable cause of the commission of a crime be established, it would lead to Gen. Milley’s court-martial. The Army has an affirmative duty to maintain good order and discipline, especially with regard to senior leader misconduct.

History provides an example of a senior officer engaged in misconduct. Assistant Chief of the Army Air Service Brig. Gen. Billy Mitchell was court-martialed in 1925 for remarks to the press concerning two deadly military aviation accidents.

Mitchell made the following offending statements: “These incidents are the direct result of the incompetency, criminal negligence and almost treasonable administration of the national defense by the Navy and War

Departments,” and “The bodies of my former companions in the air molder under the soil in America, and Asia, Europe and Africa, many, yes a great many, sent there directly by official stupidity.”

On Dec. 17, 1925, Mitchell was found guilty of “conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the military service.” The court suspended Mitchell from rank, command, and duty, with the forfeiture of all pay and allowances for five years. Mitchell resigned from his commission as an Army officer on Feb. 1, 1926. Some would say that history vindicated Mitchell, with the coming of World War II. Nonetheless, Mitchell paid the price for press statements outside the scope of his authority and for his insubordination.

Gen. Milley called his communist Chinese military counterpart in October 2020 and January 2021 with unauthorized promises and assurances of advanced warnings of U.S. military intentions and actions. America learned of these contacts through the book “Peril,” authored by Mr. Woodward and Robert Costa. In the book, Gen. Milley is quoted as saying, “General Li, I want to assure you that the American government is stable and everything is going to be OK. We are not going to attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you.” And then, reportedly, Gen. Milley said this: “General Li, you and I have known each other for five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”

Gen. Milley admitted to making the calls. A spokesman for Gen. Milley stated that Gen. Milley acted within his authority as the senior military adviser to the president and the secretary of defense, yet Gen. Milley failed to consult any civilian authority, a fact confirmed by Christopher Miller, the former acting secretary of defense, and by former President Donald Trump.

Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, a graduate of West Point and an Army officer, as well as a lawyer, congressman and former director of the CIA, described Gen. Milley’s actions: “If you had a senior military leader, who is simply an adviser, tell the Chinese Communist Party that they would get notice of an attack, this rivals anything we’ve seen in our nation’s history.”

Mr. Woodward and Mr. Costa “obtained” a copy of a call transcript between Gen. Milley and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi concerning Mr. Trump and nuclear weapons. The book provides detailed quotes from both Gen. Milley and Mrs. Pelosi. In one exchange, Mrs. Pelosi at length attacks Mr.

Trump, saying “they couldn’t even stop him from an assault on the Capitol,” and that “he’s crazy. You know he’s crazy. He’s been crazy for a long time.”

“So don’t say you don’t know what his state of mind is. He’s crazy and what he did yesterday is further evidence of his craziness. But anyway, I appreciate what you said.”

Gen. Milley responds to Mrs. Pelosi, “Madam Speaker, I agree with you on everything.”

Gen. Milley obviously cooperated in some manner with Mr. Woodward. Freedom of Information Act requests for call transcripts were stonewalled by the Pentagon. Gen. Milley is hiding the information from the American people and forcing a current lawsuit in federal court to compel him to release information he selectively leaked to friendly reporters.

Mr. Baker and Ms. Glasser make clear that Gen. Milley loathed Mr.

Trump and was grossly insubordinate. The authors quote Gen. Milley saying, “F--- that s---, I’ll just fight him” [President Trump], and, “If they want to court-martial me, or put me in prison, have at it. But I will fight from the inside.” A general “fighting from the inside” against the president is the very definition of subversion.

Gen. Milley must be held to account for his conduct and selectively leaked statements. His conduct goes far beyond the controversy of the Mitchell court-martial. Mitchell pales by comparison. His reported actions, if true, are the most egregious examples of treasonous subversion by a commissioned officer of the United States since Maj. Gen. Benedict Arnold.

Chris Farrell is the director of Investigations & Research for Judicial Watch and a former U.S. Army Counterintelligence Office




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Obama, Cloward-Piven and the death of the USA
« Reply #136 on: May 15, 2023, 06:24:01 PM »
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/05/13/open-border-catastrophe-is-the-cloward-piven-plan-to-destroy-america-that-i-learned-at-columbia-university-alongside-my-classmate-barack-obama/#more-302611


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Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis


First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

Inspired by the August 1965 riots in the black district of Watts in Los Angeles (which erupted after police had used batons to subdue a black man suspected of drunk driving), Cloward and Piven published an article titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty" in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation. Following its publication, The Nation sold an unprecedented 30,000 reprints. Activists were abuzz over the so-called "crisis strategy" or "Cloward-Piven Strategy," as it came to be called. Many were eager to put it into effect.

In their 1966 article, Cloward and Piven charged that the ruling classes used welfare to weaken the poor; that by providing a social safety net, the rich doused the fires of rebellion. Poor people can advance only when "the rest of society is afraid of them," Cloward told The New York Times on September 27, 1970. Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation; poor people would rise in revolt; only then would "the rest of society" accept their demands.

The key to sparking this rebellion would be to expose the inadequacy of the welfare state. Cloward-Piven's early promoters cited radical organizer Saul Alinsky as their inspiration. "Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules," Alinsky wrote in his 1972 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judaeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system's failure to "live up" to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one.

The authors noted that the number of Americans subsisting on welfare -- about 8 million, at the time -- probably represented less than half the number who were technically eligible for full benefits. They proposed a "massive drive to recruit the poor onto the welfare rolls."  Cloward and Piven calculated that persuading even a fraction of potential welfare recipients to demand their entitlements would bankrupt the system. The result, they predicted, would be "a profound financial and political crisis" that would unleash "powerful forces … for major economic reform at the national level."

Their article called for "cadres of aggressive organizers" to use "demonstrations to create a climate of militancy." Intimidated by threats of black violence, politicians would appeal to the federal government for help. Carefully orchestrated media campaigns, carried out by friendly, leftwing journalists, would float the idea of "a federal program of income redistribution," in the form of a guaranteed living income for all -- working and non-working people alike. Local officials would clutch at this idea like drowning men to a lifeline. They would apply pressure on Washington to implement it. With every major city erupting into chaos, Washington would have to act.

This was an example of what are commonly called Trojan Horse movements -- mass movements whose outward purpose seems to be providing material help to the downtrodden, but whose real objective is to draft poor people into service as revolutionary foot soldiers; to mobilize poor people en masse to overwhelm government agencies with a flood of demands beyond the capacity of those agencies to meet. The flood of demands was calculated to break the budget, jam the bureaucratic gears into gridlock, and bring the system crashing down. Fear, turmoil, violence and economic collapse would accompany such a breakdown -- providing perfect conditions for fostering radical change. That was the theory.

Cloward and Piven recruited a militant black organizer named George Wiley to lead their new movement. In the summer of 1967, Wiley founded the National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO). His tactics closely followed the recommendations set out in Cloward and Piven's article. His followers invaded welfare offices across the United States -- often violently -- bullying social workers and loudly demanding every penny to which the law "entitled" them. By 1969, NWRO claimed a dues-paying membership of 22,500 families, with 523 chapters across the nation.

Regarding Wiley's tactics, The New York Times commented on September 27, 1970, "There have been sit-ins in legislative chambers, including a United States Senate committee hearing, mass demonstrations of several thousand welfare recipients, school boycotts, picket lines, mounted police, tear gas, arrests - and, on occasion, rock-throwing, smashed glass doors, overturned desks, scattered papers and ripped-out phones."These methods proved effective. "The flooding succeeded beyond Wiley's wildest dreams," writes Sol Stern in the City Journal.  "From 1965 to 1974, the number of single-parent households on welfare soared from 4.3 million to 10.8 million, despite mostly flush economic times. By the early 1970s, one person was on the welfare rolls in New York City for every two working in the city's private economy."As a direct result of its massive welfare spending, New York City was forced to declare bankruptcy in 1975. The entire state of New York nearly went down with it. The Cloward-Piven strategy had proved its effectiveness.

The Cloward-Piven strategy depended on surprise. Once society recovered from the initial shock, the backlash began. New York's welfare crisis horrified America, giving rise to a reform movement which culminated in "the end of welfare as we know it" -- the 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, which imposed time limits on federal welfare, along with strict eligibility and work requirements. Both Cloward and Piven attended the White House signing of the bill as guests of President Clinton.

Most Americans to this day have never heard of Cloward and Piven. But New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani attempted to expose them in the late 1990s. As his drive for welfare reform gained momentum, Giuliani accused the militant scholars by name, citing their 1966 manifesto as evidence that they had engaged in deliberate economic sabotage. "This wasn't an accident," Giuliani charged in a 1997 speech. "It wasn't an atmospheric thing, it wasn't supernatural. This is the result of policies and programs designed to have the maximum number of people get on welfare."

Cloward and Piven never again revealed their intentions as candidly as they had in their 1966 article. Even so, their activism in subsequent years continued to rely on the tactic of overloading the system. When the public caught on to their welfare scheme, Cloward and Piven simply moved on, applying pressure to other sectors of the bureaucracy, wherever they detected weakness.

In 1982, partisans of the Cloward-Piven strategy founded a new "voting rights movement," which purported to take up the unfinished work of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Like ACORN, the organization that spear-headed this campaign, the new "voting rights" movement was led by veterans of George Wiley's welfare rights crusade. Its flagship organizations were Project Vote and Human SERVE, both founded in 1982. Project Vote is an ACORN front group, launched by former NWRO organizer and ACORN co-founder Zach Polett. Human SERVE was founded by Richard A. Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, along with a former NWRO organizer named Hulbert James.

All three of these organizations -- ACORN, Project Vote and Human SERVE -- set to work lobbying energetically for the so-called Motor-Voter law, which Bill Clinton ultimately signed in 1993. The Motor-Voter bill is largely responsible for swamping the voter rolls with "dead  wood" -- invalid registrations signed in the name of deceased, ineligible or non-existent people -- thus opening the door to the unprecedented  levels of voter fraud and "voter disenfranchisement" claims that followed in subsequent elections.

The new "voting rights" coalition combines mass voter registration drives -- typically featuring high levels of fraud -- with systematic intimidation of election officials in the form of frivolous lawsuits, unfounded charges of "racism" and "disenfranchisement," and "direct action" (street protests, violent or otherwise). Just as they swamped America's welfare offices in the 1960s, Cloward-Piven devotees now seek to overwhelm the nation's understaffed and poorly policed electoral system. Their tactics set the stage for the Florida recount crisis of 2000, and have introduced a level of fear, tension and foreboding to U.S. elections heretofore encountered mainly in Third World countries. 

Both the Living Wage and Voting Rights movements depend heavily on financial support from George Soros's Open Society Institute and his "Shadow Party," through whose support the Cloward-Piven strategy continues to provide a blueprint for some of the Left's most ambitious campaigns.

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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #137 on: May 15, 2023, 07:12:13 PM »
Well, that was rather prescient!

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What percentage of the US population?
« Reply #138 on: May 17, 2023, 08:19:34 AM »
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-second-gentleman-meets-jewish-white-house-staffers/

About 2%

Asians are about 6% of the US, so the Asians working at the WH must be about 3 times as many, right?

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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #139 on: May 17, 2023, 08:56:16 AM »
there is nothing more noble, righteous and virtuous then working diligently for the Democrat party

they are the noble breed fighting against the evil that is the Republican party , and conservatives
that have re labelled :
white supremacists
nazis
fascists

ahh the glory for being a warrior against evil

funny how that immediately turns sour when the wokeness treads on them....

look at NYC democrats calling for Dems to do something ....


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Genocide’s Fellow Travelers
« Reply #142 on: October 14, 2023, 10:00:07 PM »
Progressive need to own the stark reality of their position:

https://reason.com/volokh/2023/10/09/antizionists-show-their-genocidal-colors/

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Play Stupid Games, Earn Stupid Prizes, and …
« Reply #143 on: October 15, 2023, 12:13:56 AM »



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Andy Ngo: Interesting Bedfellows
« Reply #146 on: October 21, 2023, 07:43:24 AM »
During the “mostly peaceful” post Floyd riots the news ledes were always about the antics rather the associations, perhaps understandable initially in view of those impacted, if nothing else. Now that the horror du jour is overseas it’s a bit easier to take a step back from immediacy and note who is playing pattycake with whom, and perhaps connect dots regarding who are the shock troops and who waves the baton, much as occurred in ‘50s and ‘60s with Southern Democrats and the KKK:

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1715435629993918645?s=20
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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #147 on: October 21, 2023, 08:26:02 AM »
Funny

Larry Sumners the genius had no clue,

while it was obvious to everyone else @ least on the forum.

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Re: The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, Sedition, and Treason? QAnon too
« Reply #148 on: October 21, 2023, 01:55:44 PM »
Andy Ngo has some serious brass balls.  Respect!