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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left
« Reply #2100 on: August 21, 2024, 07:59:10 AM »
Michelle Obama says her parents were "suspicious of folks who took more than they needed."

She has 3 houses and a $160 million dollar net worth.

https://x.com/theMRC/status/1826098269417582761

Didn't they kick the migrants out of Martha's Vineyard.  I don't recall Obama outrage to that.

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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left
« Reply #2101 on: August 21, 2024, 09:02:05 AM »
https://celebanswers.com/how-many-homes-does-barack-obama-own/

also something elsewhere about an apartment in NYC

I thought he had one in Palm Springs CA?

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Cognitive Dissonance of the Left, Dem National Convention
« Reply #2102 on: August 22, 2024, 07:49:03 AM »
Border fence and need ID to get in.  What an idea!
View from the street in Chicago.  Scroll right to see the pretty stage the television public sees.


They aren't really in Chicago, they are in a safe space created within Chicago.

Imagine if America was a safe space!

https://reason.com/2024/08/19/democrats-unburdened-by-what-they-have-done-to-chicago/
Democrats Unburdened by What They Have Done to Chicago
This is what you get when politics is untethered from governance.

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Nation's most Left publication admits it, Kamala is the end of centrism
« Reply #2103 on: August 22, 2024, 07:56:53 AM »
Kamala marks the end of the Clinton Obama Left-Centrism, way to the left of Obama, and to them Clinton was a turncoat.
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Waving Goodbye to the Neoliberal Democratic Party
Hillary Clinton’s DNC speech marked the end of the centrist consensus of the Clinton–Obama years.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/hillary-clinton-dnc-democratic-party/
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God help us!

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Cognitive Dissonance of the Left, DNC Clinton
« Reply #2104 on: August 22, 2024, 08:47:19 AM »
Comment from the internet on Tueday's Dem National Convention Speakers:

"It’s nice to see Bill Clinton up there speaking and not some impeached, womanizing rapist."

(Hat tip Instapundit)

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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left
« Reply #2105 on: August 22, 2024, 08:59:53 AM »
are you kidding me
that was really posted?

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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left
« Reply #2106 on: August 22, 2024, 11:14:49 AM »
are you kidding me
that was really posted?

If we had a fair and balanced, equal treatment media, something about his history would have been the front story on NYT and the networks.
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"It’s nice to see Bill Clinton up there speaking and not some impeached, womanizing rapist."
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And THAT skips half the bad stuff he did.

Whitewater, lying under oath, disbarment, the cattle futures felony, or do people think he didn't notice his wife with an extra 100k back when times were tight.  And this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_body_count_conspiracy_theory

50 Flights with Epstein? How's he doin' these days?

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Cognitive Dissonance of the Left, The JFK Kennedy Democrats, No more
« Reply #2107 on: August 26, 2024, 09:54:06 AM »
Steve Moore, CTUP newsletter:  (As I've been saying ad nauseum, JFK was a Republican, Nixon was a Democrat, by today's standards.)

Note the fight within his party and how graciously he accepts they are entitled to their opinion and to speak out with it.  Teddy was a liberal.  JFK was certainly closer to Reagan than to today's Democrat party.  I wonder if that gives some of our common sense views some legs with a part of the electorate.

To expect one of the two remaining candidates to be perfect or line up perfectly with your views and personality is 'petty self-indulgence'.  It is down to two people to lead the free world, and the question for each voter is, which lines up best with your views, which is best for the country. 
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The Sad Disappearance of the JFK Democrats

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s exit from the Democratic Party (or was he booted out?) is only the latest sign that there are no more JFK Democrats left. 

Democratic President John F. Kennedy was a staunch anti-communist who fought against union and government corruption. He was laser-focused on faster growth ("we can do bettah") and saw sweeping tax rate reductions as a step toward achieving 4 to 5% growth. 

In 1962 he famously declared: "It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low, and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now."

Sadly, today you could count on one hand the number of Democrats in Washington who believe that. JFK called for a reduction in income tax and capital gains taxes. The Left wants to raise every one of these rates – including doubling capital gains taxes.

When Unleash Prosperity hosted a dinner earlier this year with RFK, Jr., we asked him about tax policy. He replied: "I learned from my uncle that cutting taxes increases prosperity." Liberals have never learned that lesson.

They should educate themselves by reading Larry Kudlow and Brian Domitrovic's wonderful book "JFK and the Reagan Revolution."
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When RFK jr talks about his father and his uncle, he is talking about RFK and JFK,, not Teddy, not AOC, not Bernie Sanders or anyone to the Left of him like Kamala Harris.  That's clear now and it wasn't clear to me before.  Also, he went up against the lawfare tactics of the Left, trying to keep him in court and off the ballot, so he has a personal connection to Trump in that way.

I will add one caveat, I don't trust their there won't be falling out later and they are by no means the same, but this is quite a development. 

Trump should truly utilize what Bobby is best at, not just go after the political benefit.

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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left
« Reply #2108 on: August 26, 2024, 10:02:39 AM »
I've heard it stated Harris DNC written read speech could have almost been from Ronald Reagan.
Though of course everything up to it was DNC racist sexist class warfare tax and spend and Trump is evil , threat to democracy ,  dangerous and everything he says is a lie but they will preserve democracy and truth to bear.

Funny is it not.

That the Commie LEFT feels the need to make the Commie sound like Ronald Reagan to win.
So who is lying?   :wink:

 :wink:

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Dude Trolls Himself w/ Racist Posts & Then Seeks to Make Hay About It
« Reply #2109 on: August 28, 2024, 01:32:48 PM »
I vaguely recall posting about this fellow back when his self-trolling was first discovered. His self-immolation has continued apace, though he’s still running for office in TX:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13788173/democrat-texas-lawmaker-troll-accounts-hate-speech-revealed.html?ito=facebook_share_article-top

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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left, RFK family
« Reply #2110 on: August 28, 2024, 09:06:12 PM »
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4850138-kennedy-family-denounces-rfk-jr-trump-drugs-sex-duis-rapes/

Rape, drugs, adultery, DUI all okay. But if you back Trump, the Kennedys will disown you.

They're also after RFK's wife, who is not even a Trump supporter but a supporter of her husband.

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Cognitive Dissonance of the Left, self-defeating war on energy
« Reply #2111 on: September 01, 2024, 04:32:29 PM »
US just spent $300 billion on the Green New Deal in one spending package and who knows how much else in other subsidies and spending programs.

The world emitted 1.7% more CO2 last year compared to the previous year.

The whole increase in CO2 comes from increased use of coal in China and India.

As part of the Biden Harris war on energy, they made it illegal for the US to export natural gas.

Consuming natural gas emits 40% less CO2 than coal.
https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/energy-explained/what-is-liquefied-natural-gas-lng#:~:text=LNG%20produces%2040%25%20less%20carbon,cleanest%20of%20the%20fossil%20fuels.

CO2 in overabundance  we are told is the deadliest toxin on the planet.

Atmospheric CO2 is a global phenomenon. What's done in one country or one continent is relevant only in relation to the total.

We spent hundreds of billions, maybe trillions to make things worse.

We are blocking, to the extent we can, the use of a product that would make the increased energy use going in China or India 40% cleaner, safer.

What am I missing?
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John Kaag "Atlantic" publication
« Reply #2112 on: September 07, 2024, 05:19:27 PM »
"What a 100-Year-Old Trial Reveals About America"   [100 yrs ago]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-a-100-year-old-trial-reveals-about-america/ar-AA1pDGcX?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=a695b265e5424454b72119ffa95e5f40&ei=23

May I remind Kaag Bryan ran for Prez I think 3 times and he was a DEMOCRAT as were the Southern fundamentalists and other racists at the time and in a way still are .

Of course, he makes it sound like KKK Christian Fundamentalists of 100 yrs ago = Trump and his followers are  "despots" of today who hold back sonacial change - progressivism .

As thought what Harris Biden Obama want is not despotism authoritarian and one party of elites and party bureaucrats is not similar to government control by despots, like kings, like Czars, like queens
or the present CCP.

no political bias here. no sir, just plain thoughtful philosophy.





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We don't have time to think about why things happened over the last few years
« Reply #2113 on: September 08, 2024, 08:55:11 PM »
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/09/05/harris-walz_spokesman_we_dont_have_time_to_think_about_why_certain_things_happened_over_the_last_few_years.html

"We're trying to talk to the voters and explain this message," Sams told CNN's Kasie Hunt. "We've got 60 days until the election. You know, we don't have time to sit around and think about why, over the last few years, certain things may have happened or may not have happened. We've got to go win an election. And the vice president's doing that by talking about her economic vision."

    - Ian Sams, National Spokesperson for the Harris-Walz campaign

(Doug)  She's explaining by not taking questions.
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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left
« Reply #2114 on: September 09, 2024, 09:15:39 AM »
Glad I read that John Kaag piece.

This description caught my attention:

"Bryan believed that “Darwin’s theory … allowed the strong to exploit the weak, and in the name of perfecting humans created humans without God but who think of themselves as gods.”"

How does the language of "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God" interface with the questions described in this piece?

« Last Edit: September 09, 2024, 09:17:17 AM by Crafty_Dog »

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Is Harris a marxist?
« Reply #2115 on: September 13, 2024, 12:14:31 PM »
No of course not:

Just ask a communist:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/is-kamala-harris-a-marxist-we-asked-actual-communists/ar-AA1qwGJP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=38ca0f5cb2c04351802d744d256df88e&ei=15

so lets think
Democrats control academia , control education, control Senate, want control of SCOTUS , want control of Congress the Presidency the media propaganda machine the law profession have taken over corporations with DEI LBGQT
have control over the bureacracy, trying to control the military, flooding the country with people who will mostly vote for them,  and not sure what I left out.

So they want ONE party control over the country and our lives and ability to steal from some to give to party members

Is that really different than Marxism?    Expressing plans and ideology of enforcing equal outcomes is not marxism?

how is it different?

Yes we have elections but they are always rigged in favor of one party .


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Re: Is Harris a marxist?
« Reply #2116 on: September 13, 2024, 06:33:42 PM »
I would use the 51%, preponderance of the evidence test. Policies and words, is she more interested in free enterprise or government programs and solutions.

She is certifiably to the Left of socialist Bernie Sanders, so assumed to be on that side of it unless evidence indicates otherwise, and it doesn't.

On housing, child care or healthcare , is she more interested in private sector real wage growth to improve affordability or a government program or subsidy? Given the choice, she will take the government every time she sees a fork in a road.

The question she and her side should be forced to answer, how much government is too much government?
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another leftist shyster
« Reply #2119 on: October 03, 2024, 11:25:34 AM »
They see just want they want to see:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-jd-vance-is-a-con-artist-and-the-debate-proved-it/ar-AA1rDDeu?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=79c1981f44774a7680dce072595ff001&ei=45


I love how open borders and letting 20 to 30 million illegals, in illegal fashion, against the wishes of legal citizens gets overlooked and bait and switched out to some perceived insult about Haitians

Oh but they were brought here and dumped in small town Ohio "legally"    :roll:


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Cognitive Dissonance of the Left, The Mandated Narrative,
« Reply #2120 on: October 13, 2024, 12:40:58 PM »
https://sashastone.substack.com/p/why-this-california-liberal-is-voting

29 minute audio, "Why this California woman is voting for Trump".

You're not allowed to stray.

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Cog Dissonance of the left, NYT: US Business can't afford 4 more years of Trump
« Reply #2122 on: October 19, 2024, 04:19:54 PM »
Straight out of the far Left Democrat playbook, NYT has this exactly assbackwards.

But sharing it for balance on the forum...

Paywall blocked, this is all I could get. DOIn't waste your money and don't give them more clicks.

Time permitting, I'll tell you what Democrat-rule does to my business...

In short, NYT, American business did GREAT under Trump and horrible under Harris et al.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/19/opinion/trump-business-economy.html

Throughout American history, business leaders have been able to assume that an American president of either party would uphold the rule of law, defend property rights and respect the independence of the courts. Implicit in that assumption is a fundamental belief that the country’s ethos meant their enterprises and the U.S. economy could thrive, no matter who won. They could keep their distance from the rough-and-tumble of campaign politics. No matter who won, they could pursue long-term plans and investments with confidence in America’s political stability.

In this election, American business leaders cannot afford to stand passive and silent.

Donald Trump and his Democratic opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris, have sketched out versions of their parties’ traditional positions on issues like taxation, trade and regulation that are well within the give-and-take of politics. In this election, however, stability itself is also at stake.

Mr. Trump denies the legitimacy of elections, defies constitutional limits on presidential power and boasts of plans to punish his enemies. And in these attacks on America’s democracy, he is also attacking the foundations of American prosperity. Voting on narrow policy concerns would reflect a catastrophically nearsighted view of the interests of American business.

Some prominent corporate leaders — including Elon Musk, a founder of Tesla; the investors David Sacks and Bill Ackman; and the financier Stephen Schwarzman — have been supportive of Mr. Trump’s candidacy. Beyond pure cynicism, it’s nearly impossible to understand why.

Business leaders, of course, may be skeptical of Ms. Harris’s policies, uneasy because they don’t feel they know enough about how she would govern or worried that she may not be open to hearing their concerns — a frequent criticism of the Biden administration. They may be reluctant to offend or alienate employees, customers or suppliers who have...

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I can tell you what the NYT should say
« Reply #2123 on: October 19, 2024, 08:21:36 PM »
In this election, American business leaders cannot afford to stand passive and silent.

Donald Trump and his Democratic opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris, have sketched out versions of their parties’ traditional positions on issues like taxation, trade and regulation that are well within the give-and-take of politics. In this election, however, stability itself is also at stake.

Biden/Harris deny the legitimacy of elections, defies constitutional limits on presidential power and boasts of plans to punish his enemies. And in these attacks on America’s democracy, he is also attacking the foundations of American prosperity. Voting on narrow policy concerns would reflect a catastrophically nearsighted view of the interests of American business.

Some prominent corporate leaders — including Cuban, Dimon, Fink, Zuckerberg, Google people, corporate media have been supportive of Harris candidacy. Beyond pure cynicism, it’s nearly impossible to understand why.

Business leaders, of course, may be skeptical of Ms. Harris’s policies, uneasy because they don’t feel she knows enough about how she would govern or worried that she may not be able to understand economics — a frequent criticism of the Biden administration. They may be reluctant to offend or alienate woke employers, employees and customers..... while at the same time offending Conservatives or Republicans with total disregard......
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The D-E-I wing of the Democratic Party About to D-i-e?
« Reply #2124 on: October 20, 2024, 09:59:12 AM »
As the post points out, absent cheating on an unconcealable scale (I have run into posts on X stating 2 box trucks full of blank GA mail in ballots were discovered at a USPS facility, and the USPS won’t reveal who the trucks belong to, though I’ve been unable to confirm), or a successful assassination effort, or a post-election putsch, things aren’t looking good for the Dems, with Ms Feldman outlining why:


Beginning of the end of the Obama-Biden Democratic Party
By Clarice Feldman

Harris and Walz have made a thing of “turning the page,” but the page that must be turned is the one they are on.

In recent years, beginning with Obama, the Democratic party has become unmoored from its basic center-left policies and embraced ideas and policies that are illogical, absurd, and increasingly unpopular. Things like these:

• Allowing open borders coupled with a very generous social welfare system to be tapped by all who enter;
• Endorsing chemical castration of children and allowing transgender women into the private spaces of actual women;
• Engaging in endless wars in which we have no genuine national stake;
• Supporting UNWRA, which exists solely to attack our longtime ally Israel;
• Issuing regulations that limit productivity in everything in the name of preventing the chimerical and unproven climate change;
• Fighting all efforts to make national elections auditable;
• Ignoring the violence on college campuses;
• Committing significant First Amendment violations and pursuing frivolous lawsuits against their opponents;
• Defunding the police and allowing crime to flourish in blue cities;
• Embracing corrupt dictatorial international bodies like WHO and WEF;
• Promoting DEI policies that are discriminatory and result in ethnic and racial identity, rather than merit, being the criteria for hiring and promoting employees.

Looking at some tea leaves, I see the beginning of the end of this party as presently constituted. It will soon have to refashion itself, jettison its most outrageous members and their notions, or be replaced by another new party altogether.

The map reader (Harris) and the genius military strategist (Biden)

The elimination of Yahya Sinwar, head of Hamas, in Rafah this week exposed once again the moronic foreign policies of the Harris-Biden team. Both hailed it, and Harris, with outrageous chutzpah, claimed credit for it, though the administration is surely responsible for this having taken longer than it should have. 

As late as March of this year, Harris was still working to keep Hamas intact:

“I have studied the maps… It would be a huge mistake for Israel to go into Rafah.”

For months, the Administration warned Israel not to go into Rafah.

In mid-March, US officials told the Politico news site that US President Joe Biden would consider limiting future military aid to Israel if Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu moved ahead with an offensive against Hamas in the southern Gaza Strip city of Rafah…

In fact, shortly before Sinwar was killed in a firefight, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Secretary of State Antony Blinken sent a letter to Prime Minister Netanyahu threatening an arms embargo unless it met the Administration’s absurd demands respecting Gaza. Now Harris says, “Justice has been served, and the United States, Israel, and the entire world are better off as a result.” Now Biden says, “This is a good day for Israel, the United States and the world.”

National security adviser Jacob Sullivan even asserts that U.S. intelligence had helped Israel locate Sinwar. (If they knew where he was, why did they fight so hard to keep Israel away from a man they concede is a U.S. enemy?)

Biden argued that going into Rafah would extend the fighting forever. The Israelis finally ignored these threats, and some recruits spotted Sinwar, who, after murdering the six hostages he had kept with him underground as insurance, scampered out of a tunnel, and they eliminated him. Saturday, there were scenes of hundreds of Gazans leaving Rafah for sheltered areas in the north or surrendering. The cesspool that the Administration prevented from being sanitized will now surely be cleaned out rapidly.

It’s hard not to be contemptuous of those who promulgated and endorsed the Biden-Harris nitwit strategy and now try to pretend they are happy that Israel’s ignoring them did the trick.

Secretary Blinken: “Yahya Sinwar was responsible for the murder of thousands of Israelis, Americans, and citizens of more than 30 countries. His decision to launch the terror attacks on October 7 unleashed catastrophic consequences on the people of Gaza. The world is a better place with him gone.”

 Tea Leaves

In the early 1980s, I worked for the Department of Justice, making several trips to the USSR, and to me it was clear the place was crumbling. It’s in small details that the bigger picture often becomes clear. For example, how in the USSR, censorship crippled their economy. The desire to keep a lid on free expression, for example, meant that computers and typewriters were kept under strict state controls, and even photocopies had to be recorded by subject and number of pages and approved by bureaucrats up the line. Yes, it meant unapproved writers and opinions had to go through hoops to hand copy and distribute views contrary to the state’s. No modern state, however, could survive and thrive this way, was my view. Here's how I’m reading the tea leaves about the Democratic party as presently staffed and their policies.

Senate Races

Absent enormous voting cheating of the sort we saw in 2020, I think Donald Trump will win. For the first time in decades, more voters have registered as Republicans than Democrats. Then look at what’s happening in four swing states:

Ads have been released that show four Democratic Senate candidates in battleground states either working with former President Donald Trump or agreeing with his messaging as the November election is less than a month away.

Campaign ads for Rep. Elissa Slotkin in Michigan, Sen. Sherrod Brown in Ohio, Sen. Bob Casey in Pennsylvania, and Sen. Tammy Baldwin in Wisconsin focus on the Democratic candidates' alliance with Trump or his policies, implying that aligning with the former president may benefit their campaigns more than siding with Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris.

While Trump is behind Harris by 1.4 points according to the RealClearPolitics polling average, he leads the vice president in every battleground state.

Then there’s the Al Smith Catholic Charity dinner.

This is a major event every four years where the candidates roast each other at a dinner, the proceeds of which go to support charities. From its inception until this year, only Walter Mondale skipped it. Kamala Harris skipped it this year, submitting instead a video with an actress who is openly anti-Catholic and which was so insulting to the Catholic Church that in his closing benediction, Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan omitted mention of her.

Trump, who chatted and joked amiably with longtime foe Chuck Schumer, was greeted by another foe, Governor Kathy Hochul, and prosecutor Letitia James, whose case against him is in the process of being thrown out on appeal, was in the audience looking less than overly confident.

Trump got in a number of zingers, but this one, according to videos I watched, seemed to have brought down the house:

 "The Democrats have been telling us Trump's reelection is a threat to democracy. In fact, they were so concerned of this threat, they staged a coup, ousted their democratically elected incumbent, and installed Kamala Harris.

"Sometimes [all her] prayers take 3.5 years and a George Clooney op-ed."

They all know, and so do we. The effort to save the day by dumping Biden, installing Harris, and keeping the same idiotic policies and advisers has failed. Time to turn the page back to Trump.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/10/beginning_of_the_end_of_the_obama_biden_democratic_party.html

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The Left's attempt to smear the one McDonald's that hosted Trump
« Reply #2125 on: October 22, 2024, 01:24:33 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mcdonald-workers-roast-trump-over-163351247.html

message

you support Trump we will do everything we can to hurt you and your life.

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The Donald has it His Way
« Reply #2126 on: October 22, 2024, 08:15:51 PM »
Ye gods, Harris’s “golly gee, I’m just regular folk like you and even worked at McDonald’s” schtick provided Trump a slow pitch right over the plate that he, as is his wont, swung at, now the freaking left if doing a wretched job of fielding the ball, turning a deep hit into right field into a home run via all their furious bobbling. It is a sight to behold and I’m very much enjoying the ardent overplaying they’ve embraced as it does nothing but serve Trump’s ends:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/10/ny-times-twists-itself-into-a-bind-to-prove-harris-worked-at-mcdonalds/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ny-times-twists-itself-into-a-bind-to-prove-harris-worked-at-mcdonalds

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Cognitive Dissonance of the Left, Who's a Nazi?
« Reply #2127 on: October 25, 2024, 07:21:50 AM »
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-adolf-hitler-democrats-bob-casey-tammy-baldwin-ea1ea873
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Wsj nails it. Harris is trying to associate Trump with Hitler and Tammy Baldwin and Bob Casey are trying to associate themselves with Trump.  Does that make swing state Democrats Nazis?  Racists?

How about you people all just run on your record and we'll decide who is too authoritarian.

We used to limit analogies about Hitler and Nazis to people who have mass murdered 6 million Jews.

But Kamala can't be blamed. She's just reading a script.
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Cog Dissonance of the Left, Michelle O: Husbands vote your wife's interests
« Reply #2129 on: October 27, 2024, 07:01:20 AM »
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850291902358118862

I don't want to watch the whole thing for full context and I don't mean to misinterpret but it seems she is saying, how dare the husband or boyfriend not vote for the wife's or girlfriend's view on abortion.  Shame on you guys.

That brings up a number of thoughts.  Didn't we used to have just one vote per household in this country, the husband exercised it and I assume none of these women liked that, yet they espouse a very similar but reverse answer to that.

Secondly, people talk about the silent Trump vote.  He has always gotten more votes than polling had shown.  Isn't this at least partly why.  I know men who cannot speak a conservative view or Trump preference in their home, but no is with them when the voting booth curtain closes.  For some opposite reason, it is not scary to say you are liberal, Democrat or woke. 

Thirdly Michelle, abortion is not on the federal ballot you constitution denying flamethrower.  The US Supreme Court returned the issue to the states.  Read the decision and quit praying on low information voters with outright lies.

Last point?  Wasn't Michelle Obama the world's most popular Democrat because she stayed out of the fray.  Listen to her now.  She is angry, bitter and hyper partisan.  Opposite of being universally likeable.  It looks like her practice run to pick up the pieces, and it isn't going well.

Back to Barack calling men misogynist(?) for not supporting this woman, the formerly farthest Left member of the Senate, like there aren't other reasons.  How sexist and demeaning to think the difference between the parties is a gender (or race) difference.  The facts on the ground are exactly the opposite.  Joe Biden is a White male.  Kamala is female, partly black, and she was polling far better than Joe the moment the anti-democratic switchout was announced.  What say the flamethrower in chief Barack about THAT?

The main message remains the same.  These people will say or do ANYTHING to stay in power.

I wish them a quiet and peaceful retirement on Martha's Vineyard - surrounded by hordes and of Haitian and Venezuelan gangs and migrants.



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Re: The Cognitive Dissonance of the left
« Reply #2130 on: October 27, 2024, 07:47:14 AM »
as far as I am concerned she is a taller version of Al Sharpton

Michelle O is 5'11"

and Sharpton 5'10" :

https://people.com/celebrity/al-sharpton-weight-loss-his-secret-to-losing-176-lbs/

They both wear and live and breath race colored glasses.


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The “Progressive” Movement Augers In
« Reply #2132 on: October 27, 2024, 10:26:01 PM »
From his mouth to Zoroaster’s ear. With that said, I think this is overstated, albeit headed the right direction:


ELECTION 2024
The Progressive Moment Is Over
Four reasons their era has come to an end.

RUY TEIXEIRA
OCT 24, 2024

It wasn’t so long ago progressives were riding high. They had a moment; they really did. Their radical views set the agenda and tone for the Democratic Party and, especially in cultural areas, were hegemonic in the nation’s discourse. Building in the teens and cresting in the early ‘20s with the Black Lives Matter protests and heady early days of the Biden administration, very few of their ideas seemed off the table. Defund the police and empty the jails? Sure! Abolish ICE and decriminalize the border? Absolutely! Get rid of fossil fuels and have a “Green New Deal”? Definitely! Demand trillions of dollars for a “transformational” Build Back Better bill? We’re just getting started! Promote DEI and the struggle for “equity” (not equal opportunity) everywhere? It’s the only way to fight privilege! Insist that a new ideology around race and gender should be accepted by everyone? Of course, only a bigot would resist!

As far as progressives were concerned, they had ripped the Overton window wide open and it only remained to push the voters through it. In their view, that wouldn’t be too hard since these were great ideas and voters, at least the non-deplorable ones, were thirsty for a bold new approach to America’s problems.

So they thought. In reality, a lot of these ideas were pretty terrible and most voters, outside the precincts of the progressive left itself, were never very interested in them. That was true from the get-go but now the backlash against these ideas is strong enough that it can’t be ignored. As a result, politics is adjusting and the progressive moment is well and truly over.

Astute observers on the left acknowledge this, albeit with an undertone of sadness. Progressive substacker Noah Smith plaintively notes:

I spent pretty much all of the 2010s—my first decade as a writer and pundit—advocating for various progressive causes…I called for expanded immigration, national health insurance, and a bigger welfare state, extolled the benefits of diversity, cheered for a revival of labor unions and stronger antitrust, criticized mass incarceration, dreamed of a phase-out of fracking, and even endorsed reparations for slavery. In the late 2010s, it felt like a long wave of progressive sentiment…had finally reached a critical level of intensity…

A few years later, I’m not so sure. My values haven’t become more conservative—my desire for a more economically egalitarian and socially tolerant society has not diminished an iota…But I have to say that I now doubt the practical effectiveness of some of the policies I embraced in previous years. Others still seem like good ideas, but I’ve been dismayed at their botched implementation where they were tried. And many progressive ideas simply don’t seem like they’ll be able to win majority political support in the near future.

Andrew Prokop of the uber-progressive “explainer” site, Vox, laments:

The left’s hopes for sweeping change from the 2010s have crashed into the reality of the 2020s.

The energy of the Bernie Sanders presidential campaigns and the George Floyd protests is a distant memory. Some members of the Squad have moved toward the Democratic mainstream, while others lost primaries. Several of the progressive prosecutors elected in recent years have been ousted from office (by voters or due to scandals) or appear headed that way.

In Democrat-dominated spaces—like cities and mainstream media outlets—there’s been growing pushback against the left. Ambitious progressive rallying cries of just a few years ago, such as defunding the police and Medicare-for-All, are now absent from the discourse. Politicians who assiduously cultivated left activists are now increasingly tacking to the center—most notably Vice President Kamala Harris, who has abandoned many of the positions she took while running in the Democrats’ 2020 presidential primary.

Altogether, it’s seemed that progressives have moved from being on the offensive to being on the defensive—in both politics and the nation’s culture.

Finally, David Weigel of Semafor, observes in his recent article, “No matter who wins, the US is moving to the right”:

The Democratic Party, after two decades of leftward post-Clinton drift, has jerked abruptly right. Facing Donald Trump for the third consecutive election, Democrats are making rhetorical and policy concessions that they didn’t want to, or think they needed to, in 2016 and 2020. They’ve adjusted to an electorate that’s shifted to the right, toward the Trump-led GOP, on issues that progressives once hoped were non-negotiable—immigrant rights, LGBTQ rights, climate change policies, and criminal justice reform….

Both parties now face voters, white and non-white, who were open to some left-wing ideas about race, crime and gender in 2020 but are far more skeptical now.

So how did the progressive moment fall apart, seemingly at the moment of its greatest triumph? It is not hard to think of some reasons.

1. Loosening restrictions on illegal immigration was a terrible idea and voters hate it. When Joe Biden came into office, he immediately issued a series of executive orders dramatically loosening the rules for handling illegal immigrants. This was rapturously applauded by progressives as exactly what was called for. And there were immediate real world effects, as Camilo Montoya-Galvez of CBS News noted:

Would-be migrants, as well as the Mexican cartels that run transit networks, heard a clear message: Entering the United States had become easier. The number of people attempting to do so spiked almost immediately.

A New York Times reporter, Miriam Jordan, crisply explained why so many migrants came:

It is not just because they believe they will be able to make it across the 2,000 mile southern frontier. They are also certain that once they make it to the United States they will be able to stay.

Forever.

And by and large, they are not wrong.

The predictable result of this dramatic surge in illegal immigration and the diffusion of these immigrants into overburdened cities all over the country was a spike in both the salience of the issue and of negative sentiment toward Biden and the Democrats for letting the situation get out of control. This has resulted in huge advantages for Trump and the Republicans on who voters trust to handle the issue—advantages that have continued even as the Biden administration finally moved in mid-2024 to tighten the border through executive action and candidate Harris runs commercials promising to be tough on border security.

The Democrats should have seen this coming. Contrary to the claims of progressive advocates, the reality of American public opinion and politics is that border security is a huge issue that cannot be elided in any attempt to change or “humanize” the immigration system. Public opinion polling over the years has consistently shown overwhelming majorities in favor of more spending and emphasis on border security.

It should therefore have been obvious that any moves toward greater leniency at the border raised the possibility of knock-on effects and unintended consequences that would be highly unpopular. And now voters are increasingly open to even draconian immigration restriction measures. An astonishing 62 percent of voters in a June CBS News survey supported “starting a new national program to deport all undocumented immigrants currently living in the US illegally,” including 47 percent of blacks, 58 percent of white college graduates, and even 53 percent of Hispanics.

As Smith notes:

Americans simply do not like the practice of rewarding asylum seekers for crossing the border illegally. They do not want a policy of “more immigration by any means available”, if those means involve condoning the violation of the nation’s laws and borders. They demand to choose, as a nation, who gets into the country, and not to have their choices abrogated by lawyers and courts.

Progressives’ epic failure to understand these realities is one of the big reasons why the progressive moment is over.

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2. Promoting lax law enforcement and tolerance of social disorder was a terrible idea and voters hate it. In the aftermath of the police killing of George Floyd and the nationwide movement sparked by it, the climate for police and criminal justice reform was highly favorable. But Democrats, taking their cue from progressives, blew the opportunity by allowing the party to be associated with unpopular movement slogans like “defund the police” that did not appear to take public safety concerns very seriously.

At the same time, Democrats became associated with a wave of progressive public prosecutors who seemed quite hesitant about keeping criminals off the street, even as a spike in violent crimes like murders and carjacking swept the nation. This was twinned to a climate of tolerance and non-prosecution for lesser crimes that degraded the quality of life in many cities under Democratic control. San Francisco became practically a poster child for the latter problem under DA Chesa Boudin’s “leadership.”

The most enthusiastic supporters of a Boudin-style approach to policing in San Francisco and elsewhere tend to be white college-educated liberals—the mass base, as it were, of the progressive movement. Nonwhite and working-class voters approach the issue of crime quite differently. Think of Eric Adams’ support in his successful run for the New York mayoralty, or of Cherelle Parker’s support in her successful run to be Philadelphia’s mayor.

These sentiments in pro-Democratic nonwhite and working-class urban areas should not be puzzling. These voters tend to live in areas that have more crime and are therefore unlikely to look kindly on any approach that threatens public safety. A Pew poll found that black and Hispanic Democrats—who are far more urban and working class—are significantly more likely than white Democrats to favor more police funding in their area.

A survey conducted for my new report with Yuval Levin, “Politics Without Winners,” confirmed the strength of these sentiments. The survey asked about police funding in two different ways. By 65-34 percent, respondents endorsed fully funding police departments over reallocating police funding to social services, and by 73-25 percent, they backed keeping police budgets whole in the interests of public safety over reducing these budgets and transferring money to social services. Among nonwhite working-class voters there was a 30-point margin against reducing police budgets, which ballooned to 50 points among moderate-to-conservative working-class nonwhites, the overwhelming majority of this demographic. By contrast white college-grad liberals favored reducing police budgets by 20 points.

That tells you a lot. As Smith apologetically admits:

The simple fact—and the thing I failed to properly realize before 2020 and 2021—is that policing works. A bunch of evidence shows that police deter crime—through the threat of incarceration they represent, their presence on the street, and through their simple removal of the most criminal fraction from wider society. That doesn’t mean police are the only thing that reduces crime…ut police are an essential, indispensable part of American public safety, and without public safety nothing else in society can function.

Whodda thunk it? Progressives own this one and it is another big reason the progressive moment is over.

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3. Insisting that everyone should look at all issues through the lens of identity politics was a terrible idea and voters hate it. In recent years, huge swathes of the Democratic Party, egged on by progressives, have become infected with an ideology that judges actions or arguments not by their content but rather by the identity of those engaging in them. Those identities in turn are defined by an intersectional web of oppressed and oppressors, of the powerful and powerless, of the dominant and marginalized. With this approach, one judges an action not by whether it’s effective or an argument by whether it’s true but rather by whether the people involved are in the oppressed/powerless/marginalized group or not. If they are, the actions or arguments should be supported; if not, they should be opposed.

This approach is in obvious contradiction to logic and common sense. And it has led much of the Democratic Party to take positions that have little purchase in social or political reality and are offensive to the basic values most Americans hold. Take the vogue for “anti-racist” posturing. This dates back to the mid-teens and gathered overwhelming force in 2020 with the George Floyd police killing and subsequent nationwide protests. It became de rigueur in Democratic circles to solemnly pronounce American society structurally racist and shot through with white supremacy from top to bottom.

Nothing exemplifies this better than the lionization of Ibram X. Kendi, whose thoroughly ridiculous claims were treated as revealed truth by tens of millions of good Democrats, with progressives at the ready to make sure they stuck to the catechism. Kendi wrote, for instance:

There is no such thing as a nonracist or race-neutral policy. Every policy in every institution in every community in every nation is producing or sustaining either racial inequity or equity between racial groups…The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination….The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.

Only those who have checked their capacity for critical thinking at the door could possibly take such arguments seriously. But progressives insisted these absurdities must be taken on board.

Bad ideas and arguments are bad ideas and arguments to most voters. It doesn’t matter who makes them. Voters generally embrace instead the universalistic principles that are embedded in traditional American values. They believe, unlike Kendi, that racial preferences in rewards and decision-making are not fair and fairness is a fundamental part of their world outlook. They believe, with Martin Luther King Jr., that people should “not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” In a 2022 University of Southern California Dornsife survey, this classic statement of colorblind equality was posed to respondents: “Our goal as a society should be to treat all people the same without regard to the color of their skin.” That view elicited sky-high (92 percent) agreement from the public, despite the assaults on this idea from sectors of the left.

Similarly, a 2023 Public Agenda Hidden Common Ground survey found 91 percent agreement with the statement: “All people deserve an equal opportunity to succeed, no matter their race or ethnicity.” This is what people deeply believe in: equal opportunity not, unlike the intersectional ideology promoted by progressives, equal outcomes.

In contrast, consider the issue of “structural racism”. Is racism “built into our society, including into its policies and institutions”, as progressives maintain, or does racism “come from individuals who hold racist views, not from our society and institutions?” In the Politics Without Winners survey, by 61 to 39 percent, moderate-to-conservative nonwhite working-class voters (70 percent of whom are moderate, not conservative) chose the latter view, that racism comes from individuals, not society. Hispanic voters as a whole have essentially the same view. In stark contrast, the comparatively tiny group of nonwhite college-graduate liberals favored the structural racism explanation by 78 to 20 percent. White college-graduate liberals, the shock troops of the progressive movement, were even more lop-sided at 82 to 18 percent. That tells you a lot about who has influenced the Democratic Party on racial issues.

And who has foisted the metastasizing and unpopular DEI programs on a public that detests them. Smith lists some of the most annoying programs from a veritable rogues’ gallery of DEI efforts:

DEI training sessions that are nonsensical and often racist, declaring that practically every desirable work characteristic, from punctuality to hard work to individualism, is part of white culture.
Mandatory DEI statements that do little to advance equity, but instead simply seem like humiliating struggle sessions.
DEI departments who always manage to find more instances of racism within the organizations they work for, and whose solution to this is always to recommend the enlargement of DEI departments.
Thanks progressives! They own this one too and it is another big reason the progressive moment is over.

4. Telling people fossil fuels are evil and they must stop using them was a terrible idea and voters hate it. Since the days of Barack Obama and an “all of the above” approach to energy production, Democrats, on the urgings of progressives, have embraced quite a radical approach to energy issues. Progressives promulgated the view that climate change is not a dynamic that is gradually advancing, but an imminent crisis that is already upon us and is evident in extreme weather events. It threatens the existence of the planet if immediate, drastic action is not taken. That action must include the immediate replacement of fossil fuels, including natural gas, by renewables, wind and solar, which are cheap and can be introduced right now if sufficient resources are devoted to doing so, and which, unlike nuclear power, are safe. Not only that, the immediate replacement of fossil fuels by renewables will make energy cheaper and provide high wage jobs.

According to the progressive view, people resist rapidly eliminating fossil fuels only because of propaganda from the fossil fuel industry. Any problems with renewables that might be cited, such as their intermittency and unreliability, are being solved. This means that as we use more renewables and cut out fossil fuels, political support for the transition to clean energy should go up because of the benefits to consumers and workers.

Pretty much every sentence in this catechism is highly debatable on substantive grounds. But the catechism is not to be questioned progressives insist. Biden in 2023 echoed the apocalyptic rhetoric:

The only existential threat humanity faces even more frightening than a nuclear war is global warming going above 1.5 degrees in the next 20 —10 years. That’d be real trouble. There’s no way back from that.

The implication is that we can’t worry about trivial things like workers’ jobs in high-paying industries or consumer prices for energy or even the technical feasibility of maximalist energy transition plans. Hence the progressive commitment to the fanciful goal of net zero by 2050 to limit global warming to 1.5ºC. Hence their commitment to an extremely rapid elimination of fossil fuel usage. Hence their commitment to an equally rapid buildup of wind and solar in energy production.

This is all gospel to progressives who see themselves as noble warriors against the impending apocalypse. But most voters, especially working-class voters, have not signed up for—or are even much interested in—the rapid green transition they envision.

Workers far prefer a gradual, “all-of-the-above” approach to transitioning the energy system to the frantic push for renewables and electric vehicles (not to mention heat pumps, electric stoves, etc.) that characterizes progressives’ Green New Deal-type thinking. In a survey conducted by YouGov last year, just a quarter of working-class (noncollege) voters embraced the Democrats’ current approach, emphasizing ending the use of fossil fuels and rapidly adopting renewables. This was actually less than the number (29 percent) that flat-out supported production of fossil fuels and opposed green energy projects. The dominant position by far was an all-of-the above approach that called for cheap, abundant energy from many sources, including oil, gas, renewables, and nuclear, favored by 46 percent of voters.

Findings from the Politics Without Winners survey were consistent with these attitudes. We asked respondents whether they thought the country’s energy supply should “Use a mix of energy sources including oil, coal and natural gas along with renewable energy sources,” or “Phase out the use of oil, coal and natural gas completely, relying instead on renewable energy sources such as wind and solar power only.” An overwhelming 72 percent in the survey favored the all-of-the-above approach, including fossil fuels, while just 26 percent backed the rapid renewables transition.

The split was even more lopsided among working-class (noncollege) respondents, as it was among political moderates. Predictably, progressives’ BFFs, white college-graduate liberals, were an exception—two to one in favor of getting rid of fossil fuels. But moderate and conservative white college graduates, who vastly outnumber the liberals, were almost seven to one against. Given that Democrats are increasingly reliant on support from white college graduates, this indicates the breadth of Democrats’ progressive-driven vulnerability on energy issues.

The hard fact is that progressives’ intransigent hostility to fossil fuels is not widely shared by ordinary voters, who are fundamentally oriented toward cheap, reliable and abundant energy. In a recent result from the New York Times/Siena poll, two-thirds of likely voters said they supported a policy of “increasing domestic production of fossil fuels such as oil and gas.” Two-thirds!

Support for increasing fossil fuel production is particularly strong among working-class (noncollege) voters: 72 percent of these voters back such a policy. Support is even higher among white working-class voters (77 percent). But remarkably, support is also strong among many demographics where one would think, based on conventional wisdom, one would likely see opposition. For example, 63 percent of voters under 30 said they wanted more oil and gas production, as did 58 percent of white college-graduate voters and college voters overall. Indeed, across all demographics reported by the NYT survey—all racial groups, all education groups, all regions (Midwest, Northeast, South, West) and all neighborhood types (city, suburb, rural/small town)—net support (total support minus total oppose) was at least 15 points and usually much higher. Now that’s popularity.

Or how about this remarkable result from a new NBC poll. Testing a wide range of policy proposals to see whether voters would be more or less likely to support a candidate who espoused them, the most positive response among voters was to a proposal to expand domestic oil and natural gas production. By a very wide 67 percent to 15 percent margin, voters said they would be more likely, rather than less likely, to support a candidate who wanted to expand fossil fuel production!

Voters clearly aren’t buying what progressives are selling on energy and climate. Not even close. And that’s another big reason the progressive moment has come to an end.

What comes next? Certainly Harris is furiously back-pedaling from all these positions but she is not a particularly convincing messenger for a new approach or even able to articulate what that new approach might be. In all likelihood, it will take some time for a new moment to emerge and influence Democrats the way the progressive moment did. Until then, well—it looks like more “Politics Without Winners.”

https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/the-progressive-moment-is-over

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Cognitive Dissonance of the Left, China and Climate Change
« Reply #2133 on: October 29, 2024, 09:53:10 AM »
Truth from the humor page:

Why isn't China concerned about Climate Change?

Because they already have a Communist Government!

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Woke Fascism
« Reply #2134 on: October 29, 2024, 08:14:54 PM »
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Since Kamala has decided she is so desperate that she must call Trump "Hitler," it's time for my periodic reminder that all Democrats are fascists.   
I love the fact that whenever I point this out, some Democrat invariably claims "Derrrrr... you don't even know what fascism is!"  So let's explore fascism a little, shall we?
Listed below are attributes and practices that all 20th Century fascists have in common with the Democrat Party of 2024:
1. Laws promoting the seizure of guns from law-abiding citizens and/or the denial of gun ownership rights for law-abiding citizens.
2. Censorship of free speech by pretending such censorship protects the citizenry from faulty information (i.e., so-called "disinformation").
3. Government control of industry.
4. Government control of the mass media.
5. Control of the entertainment industry as a means of propaganda. (See: Leni Riefenstahl; Walt Disney Corporation.)
6. Children belong to the State and not their parents.
7. Political dissidents and opposing political leadership are to be persecuted for fabricated "crimes" under the color of law through the courts.
8. Political dissidents are locked up for months/years without a trial.
9. Leading political opponents who are a threat to the fascist order are to be assassinated.
10. Extreme nationalism (Democrats hate the United States of America, but are extreme nationalistic zealots for the Woke States of America).
11. Purposeful division of the population along racial and ethnic lines as a means to power.
12. Leadership of the ruling fascist party is chosen by party leaders without any input from rank-and-file party members, but an illusion of democracy is perpetuated. (See: Kamala as nominee with zero votes.)
13. Certain party criminals are turned into martyrs upon their demise.  (See: Horst Wessel; Saint George Floyd.)
14. Destruction of statues, symbols and art of the pre-fascist order.
15. Accuse dissidents of the very crimes you yourself commit.
16. Justify all of it for the "common good."
The Democrat Party of 2024 is a fascist party.  Kamala Harris is a fascist candidate.  Spread the word.