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Re: The war on the rule of law; the Deep State
« Reply #1750 on: May 28, 2023, 07:52:05 AM »
Well, that sure did not age well!

In fairness, I don't remember anyone calling Garland the scumbag hack he has turned out to be back when he was nominated for SCOTUS

That is why we depend on insiders, like noted legal analyst Andrew McCarthy.


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Re: The war on the rule of law; the Deep State
« Reply #1752 on: May 28, 2023, 09:04:30 AM »
Using this one too.

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Gatestone: The End of Free Speech
« Reply #1754 on: May 28, 2023, 02:33:24 PM »

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/19677/end-of-free-speech

The Official Truth': The End of Free Speech That Will End America
by J.B. Shurk
May 28, 2023 at 5:00 am

[M]edia polling from Harvard-Harris showing that Americans hold almost diametrically opposing viewpoints from those that news corporations predominantly broadcast as the official "truth."

Americans have correctly concluded that [with the "Russia Hoax" and suppressing reported influence peddling in Hunter Biden's laptop ] journalists and spies advanced a "fraud" on voters as part of an effort to censor a damaging story and "help Biden win." Nevertheless, The New York Times and The Washington Post have yet to return the Pulitzer Prizes they received for reporting totally discredited "fake news."

"Under the current approach to journalism, it is the New York Times that receives a Pulitzer for a now debunked Russian collusion story rather than the New York Post for a now proven Hunter Biden laptop story." — Professor Jonathan Turley, George Washington University Law School, Twitter, May 15, 2023.

The government apparently took the public's censorship concerns so seriously that it quietly moved on from the collapse of its plans for a "disinformation governance board" within the DHS and proceeded within the space of a month to create a new "disinformation" office known as the Foreign Malign Influence Center, which now operates from within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Although ostensibly geared toward countering information warfare arising from "foreign" threats, one of its principal objectives is to monitor and control "public opinion and behaviors."

As independent journalist Matt Taibbi concludes of the government's resurrected Ministry of Truth: "It's the basic rhetorical trick of the censorship age: raise a fuss about a foreign threat, using it as a battering ram to get everyone from Congress to the tech companies to submit to increased regulation and surveillance. Then, slowly, adjust your aim to domestic targets."

Democrat Senator Michael Bennet has already proposed a bill that would create a Federal Digital Platform Commission with "the authority to promulgate rules, impose civil penalties, hold hearings, conduct investigations, and support research."

Effectively, a small number of unelected commissioners would have de facto power to monitor and police online communication. Should any particular website or platform run afoul of the government's First Amendment Star Chamber, it would immediately place itself within the commission's crosshairs for greater oversight, regulation, and punishment.

Will this new creation become an American KGB, Stasi or CCP — empowered to target half the population for disagreeing with current government policies, promoting "wrongthink," or merely going to church? Will a small secretive body decide which Americans are actually "domestic terrorists" in the making? US Attorney General Merrick Garland has gone after traditional Catholics who attend Latin mass, but why would government suspicions end with the Latin language? When small commissions exist to decide which Americans are the "enemy," there is no telling who will be designated as a "threat" and punished next.

It is not difficult to see the dangers that lie ahead. Now that the government has fully inserted itself into the news and information industry, the criminalization of free speech is a very real threat. This has always been a chief complaint against international institutions such as the World Economic Forum that spend a great deal of time, power, and money promoting the thoughts and opinions of an insular cabal of global leaders, while showing negligible respect for the personal rights and liberties of the billions of ordinary citizens they claim to represent.

If Schwab's online army were not execrable enough, advocates for free speech must also gird themselves for the repercussions of Elon Musk's appointment of Linda Yaccarino, reportedly a "neo-liberal wokeist" with strong WEF affiliations, as the new CEO of Twitter.

In an America now plagued with the stench of official "snitch lines," censorship of certain presidential candidates, widespread online surveillance, a resurrected "disinformation governance board," and increasingly frequent criminal prosecutions targeting Americans who exercise their free speech, the question is not whether what we inaudibly think or say in our sleep will someday be used against us, but rather how soon that day will come unless we stop it.


If legacy news corporations fail to report that large majorities of the American public now view their journalistic product as straight-up propaganda, does that make it any less true?

According to a survey by Rasmussen Reports, 59% of likely voters in the United States view the corporate news media as "truly the enemy of the people." This is a majority view, held regardless of race: "58% of whites, 51% of black voters, and 68% of other minorities" — all agree that the mainstream media has become their "enemy."

This scorching indictment of the Fourth Estate piggybacks similar polling from Harvard-Harris showing that Americans hold almost diametrically opposing viewpoints from those that news corporations predominantly broadcast as the official "truth."

Drawing attention to the divergence between the public's perceived reality and the news media's prevailing "narratives," independent journalist Glenn Greenwald dissected the Harvard-Harris poll to highlight just how differently some of the most important issues of the last few years have been understood. While corporate news fixated on purported Trump-Russia collusion since 2016, majorities of Americans now see this story "as a hoax and a fraud."

While the news media hid behind the Intelligence Community's claims that Hunter Biden's potentially incriminating laptop (allegedly containing evidence of his family's influence-peddling) was a product of "Russian disinformation" and consequently enforced an information blackout on the explosive story during the final weeks of the 2020 presidential election, strong majorities of Americans currently believe the laptop's contents are "real." In other words, Americans have correctly concluded that journalists and spies advanced a "fraud" on voters as part of an effort to censor a damaging story and "help Biden win." Nevertheless, The New York Times and The Washington Post have yet to return the Pulitzer Prizes they received for reporting totally discredited "fake news."

Similarly, majorities of Americans suspect that President Joe Biden has used the powers of his various offices to profit from influence-peddling schemes and that the FBI has intentionally refrained from investigating any possible Biden crimes. Huge majorities of Americans, in fact, seem not at all surprised to learn that the FBI has been caught abusing its own powers to influence elections, and are strongly convinced that "sweeping reform" is needed. Likewise, large majorities of Americans have "serious doubts about Biden's mental fitness to be president" and suspect that others behind the scenes are "puppeteers" running the nation.

Few, if any, of these poll results have been widely reported. In a seemingly-authoritarian disconnect with the American people, corporate news media continue to ignore the public's majority opinion and instead "relentlessly advocate" those viewpoints that Americans "reject." When journalists fail to investigate facts and deliberately distort stories so that they fit snugly within preconceived worldviews, reporters act as propagandists.

Constitutional law scholar Jonathan Turley recently asked, "Do we have a de facto state media?" In answering his own question, he notes that the news blackout surrounding congressional investigations into Biden family members who have allegedly received more than ten million dollars in suspicious payments from foreign entities "fits the past standards used to denounce Russian propaganda patterns and practices." After Republican members of Congress traced funds to nine Biden family members "from corrupt figures in Romania, China, and other countries," Turley writes, "The New Republic quickly ran a story headlined 'Republicans Finally Admit They Have No Incriminating Evidence on Joe Biden.'"

Excoriating the news media's penchant for mindlessly embracing stories that hurt former President Donald Trump while simultaneously ignoring stories that might damage President Biden, Turley concludes:

"Under the current approach to journalism, it is the New York Times that receives a Pulitzer for a now debunked Russian collusion story rather than the New York Post for a now proven Hunter Biden laptop story."

Americans now evidently view the major sources for their news and information as part of a larger political machine pushing particular points of view, unconstrained by any ethical obligation to report facts objectively or dispassionately seek truth. That Americans now see the news media in their country as serving a similar role as Pravda did for the Soviet Union's Communist Party is a significant departure from the country's historic embrace of free speech and traditional fondness for a skeptical, adversarial press.

Rather than taking a step back to consider the implications such a shift in public perception will have for America's future stability, some officials appear even more committed to expanding government control over what can be said and debated online. After the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), in the wake of public backlash over First Amendment concerns, halted its efforts to construct an official "disinformation governance board" last year, the question remained whether other government attempts to silence or shape online information would rear their head. The wait for that answer did not take long.

The government apparently took the public's censorship concerns so seriously that it quietly moved on from the collapse of its plans for a "disinformation governance board" within the DHS and proceeded within the space of a month to create a new "disinformation" office known as the Foreign Malign Influence Center, which now operates from within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Although ostensibly geared toward countering information warfare arising from "foreign" threats, one of its principal objectives is to monitor and control "public opinion and behaviors."

As independent journalist Matt Taibbi concludes of the government's resurrected Ministry of Truth:

"It's the basic rhetorical trick of the censorship age: raise a fuss about a foreign threat, using it as a battering ram to get everyone from Congress to the tech companies to submit to increased regulation and surveillance. Then, slowly, adjust your aim to domestic targets."

If it were not jarring enough to learn that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence has picked up the government's speech police baton right where the DHS set it down, there is ample evidence to suggest that officials are eager to go much further in the near future. Democrat Senator Michael Bennet has already proposed a bill that would create a Federal Digital Platform Commission with "the authority to promulgate rules, impose civil penalties, hold hearings, conduct investigations, and support research."

Filled with "disinformation" specialists empowered to create "enforceable behavioral codes" for online communication — and generously paid for by the Biden Administration with taxpayers' money — the special commission would also "designate 'systemically important digital platforms' subject to extra oversight, reporting, and regulation" requirements. Effectively, a small number of unelected commissioners would have de facto power to monitor and police online communication. Should any particular website or platform run afoul of the government's First Amendment Star Chamber, it would immediately place itself within the commission's crosshairs for greater oversight, regulation, and punishment.

Will this new creation become an American KGB, Stasi or CCP — empowered to target half the population for disagreeing with current government policies, promoting "wrongthink," or merely going to church? Will a small secretive body decide which Americans are actually "domestic terrorists" in the making? US Attorney General Merrick Garland has gone after traditional Catholics who attend Latin mass, but why would government suspicions end with the Latin language? When small commissions exist to decide which Americans are the "enemy," there is no telling who will be designated as a "threat" and punished next.

It is not difficult to see the dangers that lie ahead. Now that the government has fully inserted itself into the news and information industry, the criminalization of free speech is a very real threat. This has always been a chief complaint against international institutions such as the World Economic Forum that spend a great deal of time, power, and money promoting the thoughts and opinions of an insular cabal of global leaders, while showing negligible respect for the personal rights and liberties of the billions of ordinary citizens they claim to represent.

WEF Chairman Klaus Schwab has gone so far as to hire hundreds of thousands of "information warriors" whose mission is to "control the Internet" by "policing social media," eliminating dissent, disrupting the public square, and "covertly seed[ing] support" for the WEF's "Great Reset." If Schwab's online army were not execrable enough, advocates for free speech must also gird themselves for the repercussions of Elon Musk's appointment of Linda Yaccarino, reportedly a "neo-liberal wokeist" with strong WEF affiliations, as the new CEO of Twitter.

Throughout much of the West, unfortunately, free speech has been only weakly protected when those with power find its defense inconvenient or messages a nuisance. It is therefore of little surprise to learn that French authorities are now prosecuting government protesters for "flipping-off" President Emmanuel Macron. It does not seem particularly astonishing that a German man has been sentenced to three years in prison for engaging in "pro-Russian" political speech regarding the war in Ukraine. It also no longer appears shocking to read that UK Technology and Science Secretary Michelle Donelan reportedly seeks to imprison social media executives who fail to censor online speech that the government might subjectively adjudge "harmful." Sadly, as Ireland continues to find new ways to punish citizens for expressing certain points of view, its movement toward criminalizing not just speech but also "hateful" thoughts should have been predictable.

From an American's perspective, these overseas encroachments against free speech — especially within the borders of closely-allied lands — have seemed sinister yet entirely foreign. Now, however, what was once observed from some distance has made its way home; it feels as if a faraway communist enemy has finally stormed America's beaches and come ashore in force.

Not a day seems to go by without some new battlefront opening up in the war on free speech and free thought. The Richard Stengel of the Council on Foreign Relations has been increasingly vocal about the importance of journalists and think tanks to act as "primary provocateurs" and "propagandists" who "have to" manipulate the American population and shape the public's perception of world events. Senator Rand Paul has alleged that the DHS uses at least 12 separate programs to "track what Americans say online," as well as to engage in social media censorship.

As part of its efforts to silence dissenting arguments, the Biden administration is pursuing a policy that would make it unlawful to use data and datasets that reflect accurate information yet lead to "discriminatory outcomes" for "protected classes." In other words, if the data is perceived to be "racist," it must be expunged. At the same time, the Department of Justice has indicted four radical black leftists for having somehow "weaponized" their free speech rights in support of Russian "disinformation." So, objective datasets can be deemed "discriminatory" against minorities, while actual discrimination against minorities' free speech is excused when that speech contradicts official government policy.

Meanwhile, the DHS has been exposed for paying tens of millions of dollars to third-party "anti-terrorism" programs that have not so coincidentally equated Christians, Republicans, and philosophical conservatives to Germany's Nazi Party. Similarly, California Governor Gavin Newsom has set up a Soviet-style "snitch line" that encourages neighbors to report on each other's public or private displays of "hate."

Finally, ABC News proudly admits that it has censored parts of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s interviews because some of his answers include "false claims about the COVID-19 vaccines." Essentially, the corporate news media have deemed Kennedy's viewpoints unworthy of being transmitted and heard, even though the 2024 presidential candidate is running a strong second behind Joe Biden in the Democrat primary, with around 20% support from the electorate.

Taken all together, it is clear that not only has the war on free speech come to America, but also that it is clobbering Americans in a relentless campaign of "shock and awe." And why not? In a litigation battle presently being waged over the federal government's extensive censorship programs, the Biden administration has defended its inherent authority to control Americans' thoughts as an instrumental component of "government infrastructure." What Americans think and believe is openly referred to as part of the nation's "cognitive infrastructure" — as if the Matrix movies were simply reflecting real life.

Today, America's mainstream news corporations are already viewed as processing plants that manufacture political propaganda. That is an unbelievably searing indictment of a once-vibrant free press in the United States. It is also, unfortunately, only the first heavy shoe to drop in the war against free speech. Many Chinese-Americans who survived the Cultural Revolution look around the country today and see similarities everywhere. During that totalitarian "reign of terror," everything a person did was monitored, including what was said while asleep.

In an America now plagued with the stench of official "snitch lines," censorship of certain presidential candidates, widespread online surveillance, a resurrected "disinformation governance board," and increasingly frequent criminal prosecutions targeting Americans who exercise their free speech, the question is not whether what we inaudibly think or say in our sleep will someday be used against us, but rather how soon that day will come unless we stop it. After all, with smartphones, smart TVs, "smart" appliances, video-recording doorbells, and the rise of artificial intelligence, somebody, somewhere is always listening.

JB Shurk writes about politics and society.

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AMcC on the Wray-Comey compromise
« Reply #1756 on: June 03, 2023, 03:28:38 AM »
Comer and Wray Strike Compromise, Staving Off Oversight Committee Contempt Citation

Left: Rep. James Comer (R., Ky.) attends a hearing in Washington, D.C., April 26, 2023. Right: FBI director Christopher Wray(Elizabeth Frantz, Alex Wroblewski/Reuters)

By ANDREW C. MCCARTHY
June 2, 2023 2:50 PM
On balance, this is a win for the Republican House committee chairman, who stuck to his guns and overcame FBI intransigence.
Facing an imminent contempt citation by the House Oversight Committee, FBI director Chris Wray reached a compromise with committee chairman James Comer (R., Ky.): The FBI will bring the subpoenaed document at the center of the dispute to the House on Monday. There, Comer and the committee’s ranking member, Jamie Raskin, will review it and receive a related briefing from the bureau.

As Rich and I discussed on the podcast this week, the document in question is an informant report alleging that, while he served as vice president, now-president Joseph Biden was complicit in a bribery scheme involving unidentified foreign actors. (Comer has recently stated that the foreign country involved is not China, nor is it one the committee has previously addressed in its Biden-family investigation — which we discussed in this NR editorial.) The report is memorialized in the FBI’s standard FD-1023 form, which is used to record statements by confidential human sources (CHSs) — i.e., persons who provide information to the FBI, as distinguished from other means of intelligence-gathering (e.g., electronic surveillance).

On balance, this is a win for Comer, who stuck to his guns and overcame FBI intransigence. But the deal struck to end the contempt threat is a compromise, not a wholesale bureau surrender. That is as it should be.

In defiance of the subpoena, Director Wray initially resisted any disclosure. He even refused to concede the existence of the document, to which whistle-blower investigators had alerted Comer and Senator Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa), who has done a great deal of investigative work on the Biden family influence-peddling business. After over three weeks, Wray grudgingly acknowledged that the document existed but countered that the FBI would produce only a significantly redacted version of it. Moreover, he tried to dictate that committee members would have to come to FBI headquarters to review only what the FBI was willing to permit them to see, under the bureau’s supervision.


As I’ve explained this week (see here and here), the FBI does not have a valid legal basis to withhold the information Congress is seeking. Legally, Comer knew he had the whip hand; politically, he knew that Wray, who heads a law-enforcement agency that relies on subpoena compliance, was keen to avoid being held in contempt for illegally defying a subpoena. The chairman thus admonished the director that nothing less than the production of the document to the entire committee would constitute satisfactory compliance.

In the end, however, Comer prudently retreated a bit. At least for now, the document will be shown, and the briefing given, only to Comer and Raskin, not the full committee, in a secure Capitol Hill room normally reserved for reviewing classified intelligence (the FD-1023 in question is not classified). This gives the committee what it needs for the purposes of its significant investigation, while giving Wray a face-saving nod to the FBI’s concerns.

Wray Concedes Biden Bribery Document Exists But Continues Refusing to Produce It, Comer and Grassley Say
FBI Director Wray Doesn’t Have a Leg to Stand on in Contempt Fight

Those concerns are worthy. It would cripple the government’s ability to gather evidence and intelligence for law-enforcement and national-security purposes if the FBI could not assure confidentiality to informants. Comer and Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R., Calif.) both made clear to Wray that the House’s objective was to obtain the information, not compromise the FBI’s mission. That said, they also were firm in insisting that the FBI’s concerns do not exist in a vacuum; they must be weighed against such imperatives as Congress’s capacity to check the abuse of executive power and ensure that the FBI is not chanting “sources and methods” as a smokescreen to cover up malfeasance or incompetence.

The deal struck should satisfy everyone’s interests.

This illustrates why courts should not get enmeshed in battles pitting the political branches and their divergent but legitimate interests against each other. Even though a lot of furniture can get broken in the heat of the confrontation, rational compromises are typically arrived at. This happens when it is clear that (a) under our constitutional structure, one side gets to be the decision maker — here, Congress; and (b) that side respects the legitimate concerns of the other side — here, the bureau. In this instance, there was more drama than there needed to be, but if things had gotten tied up in court, it would have taken months to get a resolution.

The key lesson of this episode: The FBI must come to terms with the reputational damage it has sustained after eight years of politicization and poor performance. The bureau is simply not as formidable as it used to be in clashes with Congress because the public is not as convinced as it used to be that the bureau is a nonpartisan, by-the-book law-enforcement agency. Lawmakers, who are accountable to the public, are no longer going to take bureau’s “sources and methods” mantra for an answer.

Law-enforcement whistle-blowers did not just point Comer and Grassley to the document at issue. The investigators have complained that, because the politically powerful Biden family is at the center of this probe, their chains of command (which ultimately lead to the Biden Justice Department) have not permitted them to take the rudimentary investigative steps they’d take in a typical case.

According to Comer and Grassley, the subpoenaed FD-1023 form

describes an alleged criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Biden and a foreign national relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions. It has been alleged [by whistleblower agents] that the document includes a precise description of how the alleged criminal scheme was employed as well as its purpose.

Comer has not only demanded access to the document. The committee also wants to know what the FBI did to investigate the allegations. It is a vital question, especially in light of disturbing indications that, prior to the 2020 election, top bureau investigators helped congressional Democrats discredit the Biden corruption story as “Russian disinformation” and took steps to shut down investigative leads. To repeat my previous summary:

Three months before the [New York Post] reported on the [Hunter Biden] laptop, there was already not only a Hunter Biden criminal investigation but a Senate Republican investigation of the scandal the media-Democrat complex continues to bury: the cashing in on Joe Biden’s political influence by his family members, with his knowing and willful involvement, to the tune of millions of dollars that poured into Biden family coffers from agents of corrupt and authoritarian regimes, including some, such as China and Russia, that are hostile to the United States.

Obviously worried about the potential effect of these revelations on their party’s presidential nominee, congressional Democrats turned to some of their many sympathizers in the FBI brass. These included Timothy Thibault, who ran the Bureau’s Washington field office until he was forced into early retirement over anti-Republican, anti-conservative posts on his social-media account, and Brian Auten, an intelligence analyst who played an important role in the deeply misleading FISA-warrant applications the FBI filed in federal court, leading the judges to believe the 2016 Trump campaign had colluded with the Kremlin. Through these officials, the FBI helped Democrats peddle a political narrative that the evidence of foreign money lining the Bidens’ pockets was “Russian disinformation” — notwithstanding that much of this evidence was simply money-trail records generated by financial institutions, easily verifiable.

That is, before there ever was a Hunter Biden laptop story, the FBI hadn’t just helped Democrats craft a political storyline to dismiss evidence of Biden family corruption; bureau whistleblowers also reported to Senators Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) and Ron Johnson (R., Wis.) that Thibault took internal steps both to bury the Biden investigation and obscure his rationale for doing so.

On Monday, the FBI is going to honor the Oversight Committee’s subpoena for the document alleging Biden’s complicity in a bribery scheme. Chairman Comer, in turn, is dropping — at least for now — the plan to hold Wray in contempt of Congress. Still, we are closer to the beginning than the end of this saga. It is good that the document is being produced, but the FBI has more explaining to do.

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can't agree with AM here
« Reply #1757 on: June 03, 2023, 06:29:23 AM »
"In the end, however, Comer prudently retreated a bit. At least for now, the document will be shown, and the briefing given, only to Comer and Raskin, not the full committee, in a secure Capitol Hill room normally reserved for reviewing classified intelligence (the FD-1023 in question is not classified). This gives the committee what it needs for the purposes of its significant investigation, while giving Wray a face-saving nod to the FBI’s concerns."

again the public has not right to know or deep state has to protect the public FROM knowing what is in it.

And of course, Jamie Raskin will get to see it too  :x so he can lie about what it says to the MSM.

Why was Comer "prudent  to retreat" ?

" The deal struck should satisfy everyone’s interests"

What !!!

Agree with GM about AM on this piece.

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Re: can't agree with AM here
« Reply #1758 on: June 03, 2023, 07:00:46 AM »
"In the end, however, Comer prudently retreated a bit. At least for now, the document will be shown, and the briefing given, only to Comer and Raskin, not the full committee, in a secure Capitol Hill room normally reserved for reviewing classified intelligence (the FD-1023 in question is not classified). This gives the committee what it needs for the purposes of its significant investigation, while giving Wray a face-saving nod to the FBI’s concerns."

again the public has not right to know or deep state has to protect the public FROM knowing what is in it.

And of course, Jamie Raskin will get to see it too  :x so he can lie about what it says to the MSM.

Why was Comer "prudent  to retreat" ?

" The deal struck should satisfy everyone’s interests"

What !!!

Agree with GM about AM on this piece.

Thank you.

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Re: The war on the rule of law; the Deep State
« Reply #1759 on: June 03, 2023, 03:45:04 PM »
I'm not with AMcC on this one, but at least Comer will get to see whether the sources and methods argument from the FBI has merit or not.

In fairness, Congress does leak like a collander , , ,


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AMcC: Wray is in contempt
« Reply #1762 on: June 04, 2023, 05:27:25 PM »
FBI Director Wray Doesn’t Have a Leg to Stand on in Contempt Fight
By ANDREW C. MCCARTHY
May 31, 2023 11:54 AM

The director’s defiance of Congress’s subpoena is contemptuous. If he persists in it, Congress should hold him accountable.

The era of FBI prestige is over. The FBI killed it, and director Chris Wray seems to be the last one to know. As a result, he’s about to be held in contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena that he has no lawful basis to defy. That is a contemptuous act, regardless of whether Wray is engaged in a cover-up or earnestly concerned that House Oversight Committee chairman James Comer (R., Ky.) is eroding the bureau’s capacity to safeguard intelligence sources and methods.

The director has been watching Efrem Zimbalist Jr. reruns while much of the country reads the Durham Report, and the series of reports on FBI abuses compiled over several years by the Justice Department’s inspector general, and revelations of similar, serial FBI lawlessness generated by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. Wray seems to think it’s still 1995, or 2005, or even 2015, when an FBI director could, with a measure of credibility, assure Congress that the bureau conducts politically fraught probes with competence and non-partisan rectitude, and lawmakers could then be expected to back down from making disclosure demands, fearing the public might decide they were obstructing the FBI’s good work.

Those days are done. In the last decade, the FBI has become thoroughly partisan.


This was not exactly a new development. The bureau still casts itself in the image of J. Edgar Hoover, the formative director for whom its Washington, D.C., headquarters is named. Hoover climbed the greasy pole by doing the bidding of presidents of both parties. He maintained his position for over four decades by petrifying the Beltway political class, squirreling its humiliating secrets away in his infamous files.

There is something different about today’s bureau, though. Hoover’s machinations were more about power than partisanship. His bureau self-consciously appealed to an unreservedly patriotic America that revered the rule of law. The country has changed, and so has the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Today’s FBI, with the ethos more of a spy agency than a police force, is a contented cog of the progressive administrative state. In the Obama years, it was put in the service of the Democratic Party. It marched to President Obama’s beat, whitewashed and abetted Hillary Clinton’s malevolence, undertook to destroy Donald Trump’s presidency, spent years covering its tracks, and insulated his 2020 opponent from scrutiny. It has spent the Biden years helping Democrats craft a political narrative of a nation besieged by white-supremacist domestic terrorism — all the while slow-walking the investigation of the Biden family’s influence-peddling business.

That record notwithstanding, Wray seems to believe Comer should retreat from his demand for information allegedly implicating President Biden in a $5 million bribery scheme because, the director admonishes the committee, revealing the information — and what, if anything, the FBI has done to investigate it — could compromise the bureau’s cultivation of confidential human sources (CHSs).

There was a time, not long ago, when such a claim by an FBI director would hold a lot of sway on Capitol Hill. In its arrogance, the bureau seems to have forgotten why. No, it is not because the FBI has excellent points, which Wray has made, about CHSs: To wit, that the bureau’s ability to enforce the law and protect national security hinges on persuading CHSs that, if they provide inculpatory information about dangerous, powerful people, the bureau will do its utmost to ensure their confidentiality and security.

Don’t get me wrong. That is all true. But in bygone days, such arguments did not prevail on Capitol Hill because they were true. They prevailed because the FBI had strong allies on both sides of the aisle in each chamber of Congress. The bureau had convinced those allies — a critical mass of Congress — that it was evenhandedly enforcing the law. Lawmakers understood that the public was confident in the FBI; ergo, Congress had much to lose in skirmishes where it might appear that lawmakers were thwarting the bureau. The FBI won these jousts because Congress stayed its whip hand. But that doesn’t mean Congress lacked the whip hand.

Wray ran the Criminal Division in the Bush-43 Justice Department under then-deputy attorney general James Comey. He is a good lawyer. Yet, some basic constitutional law eludes him these days. Just to recap: The nation got by for well over a century of constitutional governance without an FBI. In fact, for most of America’s first century, the Justice Department (of which the bureau is a component) didn’t exist, either. There is no FBI in the Constitution. The bureau was created by statute. It is an agency assigned to the executive branch, but it owes its existence and its authorities to Congress, which also funds its operations with taxpayer money. Congress is obliged to examine how those authorities are exercised and how that funding is spent. It could dispense with the FBI entirely if it chose to do so — if it concluded that the bureau, having forfeited its credibility by playing politics and performing incompetently, had become more trouble than it is worth.

One of the reasons we’ve had one FBI disaster after another in recent years is that Congress has failed to fulfill its duty to conduct thoroughgoing oversight of FBI operations, especially with respect to the bureau’s foreign-counterintelligence mission. Many FBI debacles take place in that context, yet Congress has delegated much of its oversight responsibility to an ill-conceived judicial panel, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which should not be involved in spying (a national-security duty of the political branches) and which is institutionally incapable of investigating the bureau.

There are circumstances in which the executive branch can legitimately defy congressional subpoenas. These deal with legislative efforts to usurp or undermine the constitutional authority of the president, a tendency about which the Framers were deeply concerned. That is why the Supreme Court recognizes executive privilege. It is why presidents refuse to accept the validity of the War Powers Resolution even as they comply with it — grudgingly and incompletely. But Comer’s subpoena to Wray does not present a constitutional-separation-of-powers conflict; it is, instead, the separation of powers as it was intended to operate.

Congress is not permitted to execute. It may not exercise the powers it creates by statute and vests in the executive, such as the FBI’s law-enforcement authorities. But it has undeniable authority to scrutinize the manner in which the FBI is exercising those powers. Wray has no proper basis to refuse compliance with a subpoena demanding to know (a) whether the FBI has gotten a colorable report that the sitting president participated in a criminal scheme said to involve leveraging his federal power for personal gain; and (b) if so, what the FBI has done with that information. Wray can cite “law-enforcement privilege” from now until the end of time. That’s not a constitutional privilege. Whatever law-enforcement authority the FBI has was given to it by Congress; the director has no “privilege” to withhold from Congress information on how that authority has been executed.

Unlike some on the right, I am not a persistent Wray critic. He inherited a mess when he took over, and I’ve tried to cut him slack. It has not been easy to be FBI director in the administrations of Donald Trump and progressive Democrats — the former crassly demanding investigations of his political opponents, the latter requiring nothing less than that their opponents be investigated while the Bidens are insulated.

Still, it was on Wray’s watch that he colluded with his fellow Trump appointee, then-deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, to stonewall the Republican-controlled House from uncovering what we now know was the FBI’s shocking Russiagate malfeasance. I understand why Rosenstein did it: He, after all, approved the FBI’s last Carter Page FISA-warrant application and appointed as special counsel Robert Mueller, the former FBI director who somehow managed to probe a political smear — Trump–Russia collusion — while remaining blissfully blind to the FBI’s role in helping the Clinton campaign promote the smear. But since Wray had nothing to do with the Russiagate debacle, his resistance to exposing it has been mystifying.

In the ensuing years, analogous abuses have proceeded under Wray’s stewardship — the FBI’s (a) illegal surveillance under FISA; (b) general participation in the suppression of political speech on social media; (c) specific complicity in the Democrats’ and the intelligence community’s suppression of the Biden influence-peddling scandal; (d) collaboration in the Democrats’ crafting of a political narrative that the country is overrun by white-supremacist domestic terrorists; and (e) retaliation against whistleblower agents who’ve reported to Congress about some of these issues (at least according to three of those agents, who testified under oath at a recent House hearing).

Now, the mere fact that a CHS may have alleged that Biden took part in a bribery scheme doesn’t mean it happened. It can’t be dismissed out of hand — there’s too much indication of Biden’s sleazy self-dealing and outright lying for that. But people in positions of authority get falsely accused of wrongdoing all the time. The FBI rightly keeps such allegations under wraps because those people are presumed innocent and the bureau can’t investigate without being discrete. Congress has traditionally given the FBI a wide berth because lawmakers know secrecy is a necessity for competent investigations — and it has assumed that the FBI is competent and non-partisan.

On the record of the last eight years, however, Wray can no longer bank on that assumption. To be sure, Comer could end up with egg on his face. If it turned out that he was wrong about the information, or that the FBI was actually doing a bona fide corruption probe that got undermined by his quest to obtain and expose the information, then Comer would be humiliated. The death knell for the House GOP’s Biden investigations would sound.

That, however, is a risk Comer is entitled to run. He knows he should tread carefully. That, undoubtedly is why House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has assured Wray that, as long as he communicates the core of the information, the FBI may redact details that could imperil sources and methods of intelligence-collection. But the House is entitled to the Biden information. Wray has no legal basis to keep it under wraps.

The director’s defiance of Congress’s subpoena is contemptuous. As Chris Wray would say about any American citizen who dared defy a subpoena in an FBI investigation, people who persist in such contemptuous conduct should be held in contempt. Hopefully it doesn’t come to that. But if it does, contempt is just the next step, not the last one.

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Re: AMcC: Wray is in contempt
« Reply #1763 on: June 04, 2023, 05:32:39 PM »
The DOJ's "Bureau of Investigation" in the beginning, didn't have powers of arrest or the ability to carry firearms. We should return to that ASAP.


FBI Director Wray Doesn’t Have a Leg to Stand on in Contempt Fight
By ANDREW C. MCCARTHY
May 31, 2023 11:54 AM

The director’s defiance of Congress’s subpoena is contemptuous. If he persists in it, Congress should hold him accountable.

The era of FBI prestige is over. The FBI killed it, and director Chris Wray seems to be the last one to know. As a result, he’s about to be held in contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena that he has no lawful basis to defy. That is a contemptuous act, regardless of whether Wray is engaged in a cover-up or earnestly concerned that House Oversight Committee chairman James Comer (R., Ky.) is eroding the bureau’s capacity to safeguard intelligence sources and methods.

The director has been watching Efrem Zimbalist Jr. reruns while much of the country reads the Durham Report, and the series of reports on FBI abuses compiled over several years by the Justice Department’s inspector general, and revelations of similar, serial FBI lawlessness generated by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. Wray seems to think it’s still 1995, or 2005, or even 2015, when an FBI director could, with a measure of credibility, assure Congress that the bureau conducts politically fraught probes with competence and non-partisan rectitude, and lawmakers could then be expected to back down from making disclosure demands, fearing the public might decide they were obstructing the FBI’s good work.

Those days are done. In the last decade, the FBI has become thoroughly partisan.


This was not exactly a new development. The bureau still casts itself in the image of J. Edgar Hoover, the formative director for whom its Washington, D.C., headquarters is named. Hoover climbed the greasy pole by doing the bidding of presidents of both parties. He maintained his position for over four decades by petrifying the Beltway political class, squirreling its humiliating secrets away in his infamous files.

There is something different about today’s bureau, though. Hoover’s machinations were more about power than partisanship. His bureau self-consciously appealed to an unreservedly patriotic America that revered the rule of law. The country has changed, and so has the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Today’s FBI, with the ethos more of a spy agency than a police force, is a contented cog of the progressive administrative state. In the Obama years, it was put in the service of the Democratic Party. It marched to President Obama’s beat, whitewashed and abetted Hillary Clinton’s malevolence, undertook to destroy Donald Trump’s presidency, spent years covering its tracks, and insulated his 2020 opponent from scrutiny. It has spent the Biden years helping Democrats craft a political narrative of a nation besieged by white-supremacist domestic terrorism — all the while slow-walking the investigation of the Biden family’s influence-peddling business.

That record notwithstanding, Wray seems to believe Comer should retreat from his demand for information allegedly implicating President Biden in a $5 million bribery scheme because, the director admonishes the committee, revealing the information — and what, if anything, the FBI has done to investigate it — could compromise the bureau’s cultivation of confidential human sources (CHSs).

There was a time, not long ago, when such a claim by an FBI director would hold a lot of sway on Capitol Hill. In its arrogance, the bureau seems to have forgotten why. No, it is not because the FBI has excellent points, which Wray has made, about CHSs: To wit, that the bureau’s ability to enforce the law and protect national security hinges on persuading CHSs that, if they provide inculpatory information about dangerous, powerful people, the bureau will do its utmost to ensure their confidentiality and security.

Don’t get me wrong. That is all true. But in bygone days, such arguments did not prevail on Capitol Hill because they were true. They prevailed because the FBI had strong allies on both sides of the aisle in each chamber of Congress. The bureau had convinced those allies — a critical mass of Congress — that it was evenhandedly enforcing the law. Lawmakers understood that the public was confident in the FBI; ergo, Congress had much to lose in skirmishes where it might appear that lawmakers were thwarting the bureau. The FBI won these jousts because Congress stayed its whip hand. But that doesn’t mean Congress lacked the whip hand.

Wray ran the Criminal Division in the Bush-43 Justice Department under then-deputy attorney general James Comey. He is a good lawyer. Yet, some basic constitutional law eludes him these days. Just to recap: The nation got by for well over a century of constitutional governance without an FBI. In fact, for most of America’s first century, the Justice Department (of which the bureau is a component) didn’t exist, either. There is no FBI in the Constitution. The bureau was created by statute. It is an agency assigned to the executive branch, but it owes its existence and its authorities to Congress, which also funds its operations with taxpayer money. Congress is obliged to examine how those authorities are exercised and how that funding is spent. It could dispense with the FBI entirely if it chose to do so — if it concluded that the bureau, having forfeited its credibility by playing politics and performing incompetently, had become more trouble than it is worth.

One of the reasons we’ve had one FBI disaster after another in recent years is that Congress has failed to fulfill its duty to conduct thoroughgoing oversight of FBI operations, especially with respect to the bureau’s foreign-counterintelligence mission. Many FBI debacles take place in that context, yet Congress has delegated much of its oversight responsibility to an ill-conceived judicial panel, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which should not be involved in spying (a national-security duty of the political branches) and which is institutionally incapable of investigating the bureau.

There are circumstances in which the executive branch can legitimately defy congressional subpoenas. These deal with legislative efforts to usurp or undermine the constitutional authority of the president, a tendency about which the Framers were deeply concerned. That is why the Supreme Court recognizes executive privilege. It is why presidents refuse to accept the validity of the War Powers Resolution even as they comply with it — grudgingly and incompletely. But Comer’s subpoena to Wray does not present a constitutional-separation-of-powers conflict; it is, instead, the separation of powers as it was intended to operate.

Congress is not permitted to execute. It may not exercise the powers it creates by statute and vests in the executive, such as the FBI’s law-enforcement authorities. But it has undeniable authority to scrutinize the manner in which the FBI is exercising those powers. Wray has no proper basis to refuse compliance with a subpoena demanding to know (a) whether the FBI has gotten a colorable report that the sitting president participated in a criminal scheme said to involve leveraging his federal power for personal gain; and (b) if so, what the FBI has done with that information. Wray can cite “law-enforcement privilege” from now until the end of time. That’s not a constitutional privilege. Whatever law-enforcement authority the FBI has was given to it by Congress; the director has no “privilege” to withhold from Congress information on how that authority has been executed.

Unlike some on the right, I am not a persistent Wray critic. He inherited a mess when he took over, and I’ve tried to cut him slack. It has not been easy to be FBI director in the administrations of Donald Trump and progressive Democrats — the former crassly demanding investigations of his political opponents, the latter requiring nothing less than that their opponents be investigated while the Bidens are insulated.

Still, it was on Wray’s watch that he colluded with his fellow Trump appointee, then-deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, to stonewall the Republican-controlled House from uncovering what we now know was the FBI’s shocking Russiagate malfeasance. I understand why Rosenstein did it: He, after all, approved the FBI’s last Carter Page FISA-warrant application and appointed as special counsel Robert Mueller, the former FBI director who somehow managed to probe a political smear — Trump–Russia collusion — while remaining blissfully blind to the FBI’s role in helping the Clinton campaign promote the smear. But since Wray had nothing to do with the Russiagate debacle, his resistance to exposing it has been mystifying.

In the ensuing years, analogous abuses have proceeded under Wray’s stewardship — the FBI’s (a) illegal surveillance under FISA; (b) general participation in the suppression of political speech on social media; (c) specific complicity in the Democrats’ and the intelligence community’s suppression of the Biden influence-peddling scandal; (d) collaboration in the Democrats’ crafting of a political narrative that the country is overrun by white-supremacist domestic terrorists; and (e) retaliation against whistleblower agents who’ve reported to Congress about some of these issues (at least according to three of those agents, who testified under oath at a recent House hearing).

Now, the mere fact that a CHS may have alleged that Biden took part in a bribery scheme doesn’t mean it happened. It can’t be dismissed out of hand — there’s too much indication of Biden’s sleazy self-dealing and outright lying for that. But people in positions of authority get falsely accused of wrongdoing all the time. The FBI rightly keeps such allegations under wraps because those people are presumed innocent and the bureau can’t investigate without being discrete. Congress has traditionally given the FBI a wide berth because lawmakers know secrecy is a necessity for competent investigations — and it has assumed that the FBI is competent and non-partisan.

On the record of the last eight years, however, Wray can no longer bank on that assumption. To be sure, Comer could end up with egg on his face. If it turned out that he was wrong about the information, or that the FBI was actually doing a bona fide corruption probe that got undermined by his quest to obtain and expose the information, then Comer would be humiliated. The death knell for the House GOP’s Biden investigations would sound.

That, however, is a risk Comer is entitled to run. He knows he should tread carefully. That, undoubtedly is why House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has assured Wray that, as long as he communicates the core of the information, the FBI may redact details that could imperil sources and methods of intelligence-collection. But the House is entitled to the Biden information. Wray has no legal basis to keep it under wraps.

The director’s defiance of Congress’s subpoena is contemptuous. As Chris Wray would say about any American citizen who dared defy a subpoena in an FBI investigation, people who persist in such contemptuous conduct should be held in contempt. Hopefully it doesn’t come to that. But if it does, contempt is just the next step, not the last one.



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hoping for a leak
« Reply #1766 on: June 08, 2023, 07:52:31 AM »
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2023/06/08/comer-cancels-vote-to-hold-director-wray-in-contempt-after-fbi-comes-to-its-senses-n2624225

of course till then the Raskins(als) will be out on left wing media
 lying up the wazooooooo

with zero consequences


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Lessons from China
« Reply #1768 on: June 11, 2023, 08:11:46 PM »

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Re: The war on the rule of law; the Deep State
« Reply #1769 on: June 11, 2023, 09:06:21 PM »
Yes.

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Ann Coulter
« Reply #1771 on: June 15, 2023, 06:36:19 AM »
my sentiments exactly:

https://anncoulter.com/2023/06/14/the-trump-indictment/

as usual Trump places us in the position of defending the indefensible,
with

well they do it
and other word salads like it depends on what is is

we scream well Dems do it / did it

the Dems scream "what about isim's" [ an new slang for the dictionary now ]

and in the end Trump makes the election about saving his own ass..............

We need someone else ,

please God :
https://www.google.com/search?

maybe if I pray like I was dying on the battlefield my last words , it might help:

q=the+lord+out+god+the+lord+is+one+in+hebrew&rlz=1C5GCEM_enUS1001US1001&ei=qROLZLbXDJ2bptQPtoixyAM&ved=0ahUKEwj2z4KmssX_AhWdjYkEHTZEDDkQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=the+lord+out+god+the+lord+is+one+in+hebrew&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIHCAAQDRCABDIICAAQigUQhgMyCAgAEIoFEIYDMggIABCKBRCGAzIICAAQigUQhgM6CggAEEcQ1gQQsAM6BggAEB4QDToGCAAQFhAeSgQIQRgASgUIQBIBMVCRA1inGmC4G2gEcAF4AIABZYgBygeSAQQxMC4xmAEAoAEBwAEByAEI&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

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Re: Ann Coulter
« Reply #1772 on: June 15, 2023, 06:38:02 AM »
my sentiments exactly:

https://anncoulter.com/2023/06/14/the-trump-indictment/

as usual Trump places us in the position of defending the indefensible,
with

well they do it
and other word salads like it depends on what is is

we scream well Dems do it / did it

the Dems scream "what about isim's" [ an new slang for the dictionary now ]

and in the end Trump makes the election about saving his own ass..............

We need someone else ,

please God :
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+lord+out+god+the+lord+is+one+in+hebrew&rlz=1C5GCEM_enUS1001US1001&ei=qROLZLbXDJ2bptQPtoixyAM&ved=0ahUKEwj2z4KmssX_AhWdjYkEHTZEDDkQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=the+lord+out+god+the+lord+is+one+in+hebrew&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIHCAAQDRCABDIICAAQigUQhgMyCAgAEIoFEIYDMggIABCKBRCGAzIICAAQigUQhgM6CggAEEcQ1gQQsAM6BggAEB4QDToGCAAQFhAeSgQIQRgASgUIQBIBMVCRA1inGmC4G2gEcAF4AIABZYgBygeSAQQxMC4xmAEAoAEBwAEByAEI&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Prayer is one of the few things we have left.

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Re: The war on the rule of law; the Deep State
« Reply #1774 on: June 17, 2023, 09:09:17 AM »
First let me say how great it is to how her precise summary of everything done to her by the Deep State!

That said, IMHO this level of skullduggery has gone on , , , pretty much always.  Remember J. Edgar Hoover's control over most Washington politicians for decades?  As such, does not meet the burden of proving the end of our Constitutional Republic.

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« Reply #1775 on: June 17, 2023, 09:26:21 AM »
First let me say how great it is to how her precise summary of everything done to her by the Deep State!

That said, IMHO this level of skullduggery has gone on , , , pretty much always.  Remember J. Edgar Hoover's control over most Washington politicians for decades?  As such, does not meet the burden of proving the end of our Constitutional Republic.

Did Hoover and the US Intel community ever wage war against half the American public and use the same techniques used to overthrow foreign governments? Maybe they did with JFK…

If that’s true, then everything we know about the US for more than a half century is a lie.

Then the American Republic was gone before I was born.

So please, break down how Trump or DeSantis or someone else wins in 2024 and the Pentagon brass and the various high ranking members of the IC and federal LE dutifully line up to have everything taken from them and die in prison.

I’ll wait for your detailed explanation on how this happens…

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« Reply #1776 on: June 17, 2023, 09:36:53 AM »
Sorry, but non-sequitor.

Attkisson asserts bad actor surveillance.  You sought to use that as reason that we cannot win this election despite likely skullduggery.

I challenged by pointing out the JE Hoover example of bad actor surveillance congruent with an essentially functioning democratic process (Mayor Daley in Chicago, others of that ilk not withstanding).

"So please, break down how Trump or DeSantis or someone else wins in 2024 and the Pentagon brass and the various high ranking members of the IC and federal LE dutifully line up to have everything taken from them and die in prison."

A very good question no doubt.

Tis the same one I posed to CCP with his discontents with Trump.

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Re: The war on the rule of law; the Deep State
« Reply #1778 on: June 19, 2023, 07:22:04 AM »
our response

"what about isms"

not enough

I am tired of defending the indefensible

endlessly distracting
Levin is right about the double standard and the phony self righteous "rule of law " proclamations

Barr is right Trump is reckless and will. bring us down due to his vanity project

Doug Schoen's latest book he early in it speaks of Trumps personality weakness turned out to be his greatest strength in propelling him to the white house, but his his greatest weakness turned out to be his greatest weakness in the longer run



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Re: The war on the rule of law; the Deep State
« Reply #1779 on: June 19, 2023, 07:24:51 AM »
our response

"what about isms"

not enough

I am tired of defending the indefensible

endlessly distracting
Levin is right about the double standard and the phony self righteous "rule of law " proclamations

Barr is right Trump is reckless and will. bring us down due to his vanity project

Doug Schoen's latest book he early in it speaks of Trumps personality weakness turned out to be his greatest strength in propelling him to the white house, but his his greatest weakness turned out to be his greatest weakness in the longer run

Don't worry, they'll never allow Trump or any other outsider into office ever again.

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The IRS flexes
« Reply #1780 on: June 19, 2023, 07:28:47 AM »


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Shocking! A sweetheart deal for Hunter!
« Reply #1782 on: June 20, 2023, 09:13:41 AM »

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Trump the genius predicted this !
« Reply #1783 on: June 20, 2023, 09:24:29 AM »
from Breitbart:

"Donald Trump Correctly Predicted Hunter Biden Would Be Charged with ‘Something Small’"

[ psst...    so did everyone else ]

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Re: The war on the rule of law; the Deep State
« Reply #1785 on: June 20, 2023, 01:04:23 PM »
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/4058616-the-hunter-biden-controlled-demolition-is-complete/

"The House will push ahead, but the media has already imposed another blackout on coverage. The challenge for the White House is that this plea could come at a tactical cost. If this is the end of the Hunter Biden investigation, the Justice Department and FBI will have a more difficult time withholding evidence on the basis of an “ongoing investigation.” That is why it is a bit suspicious to see U.S. Attorney David Weiss state that that there is an “ongoing investigation.

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Deep finally goes after FBI agent - to make an example out of her
« Reply #1786 on: June 22, 2023, 05:08:30 AM »
for political reasons -

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article276608961.html

funny, how come same logic does not apply to Obama, Pence, Biden,
Clinton (who was not even a president)

only to put up against Trump's situation .

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« Reply #1787 on: June 22, 2023, 06:34:05 AM »
In fairness, the following passages should be noted:

"Kingsbury, who worked for the FBI’s Kansas City Division, unlawfully retained about 386 classified documents in total over the course of more than a dozen years at the agency. While prosecutors didn’t allege a motive, a sentencing memo filed this month says Kingsbury’s phone made and received calls with phone numbers associated with the subjects of counterterrorism investigations."

"Prosecutors said Kingsbury had kept secret documents — on hard drives, CDs and other formats — describing intelligence sources and methods related to U.S. government efforts to defend against counterterrorism, counterintelligence and cyber threats. The documents included information on open FBI investigations. Kingsbury was also alleged to have retained documents with information about Al Qaeda members in Africa, including a suspected associate of Osama bin Laden. Other documents focused on the activities of emerging terrorists and their efforts to establish themselves in support of Al Qaeda in Africa."

"On Wednesday, Assistant U.S. Attorney Patrick Edwards and FBI Special Agent Joel Feekes cast Kingsbury’s phone calls with the subjects of counterterrorism investigations in a suspicious light, though Feekes acknowledged during his testimony that the FBI has never been able to establish why Kingsbury made the calls. “There is no explanation that can justify her actions,” Edwards said. Feekes said Kingsbury decided to voluntarily admit she had stored classified documents at her home after coming to believe she was under FBI surveillance. Feekes testified Kingsbury wasn’t under FBI surveillance at the time, however."



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surprise surprise surprise
« Reply #1790 on: June 23, 2023, 06:14:42 AM »
https://www.dailywire.com/news/whistleblowers-allege-biden-admin-blocked-prosecutors-from-filing-charges-against-hunter-biden-twice-last-year

The lying obnoxious LEFT ->

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/attractive-woman-being-ignored-stopped-by-320741366

truth justice and the American way

Now is untruths, injustices , and the DNC way........

[and if you don't like it you are a racist bigot phobic and plain simply f/u]


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Land of the free! Did Deep State Andy cover this?
« Reply #1792 on: June 24, 2023, 06:22:14 AM »
End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
One is a guy who made memes

The other is a group of intelligence agents who colluded with the Biden campaign to discredit a scandal before an election

Guess which one will spend up to 10 years in prison for “election interference”?





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« Reply #1793 on: June 24, 2023, 07:12:19 AM »
Has he been sentenced yet?

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« Reply #1794 on: June 24, 2023, 07:23:22 AM »


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Re: Land of the free! Did Deep State Andy cover this?
« Reply #1796 on: June 25, 2023, 12:46:57 PM »
https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/j6-protesters-hunter-biden-jail-time-comparison.jpg?resize=550%2C311&ssl=1



End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
One is a guy who made memes

The other is a group of intelligence agents who colluded with the Biden campaign to discredit a scandal before an election

Guess which one will spend up to 10 years in prison for “election interference”?





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1/6 investigation
« Reply #1797 on: June 26, 2023, 01:35:21 PM »
still on going:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/secret-service-agents-jan-6-grand-jury-trump-rcna91182

shysters dragging this out
to keep on back burner as needed

to hit Trump at the right time....so obvious and obnoxious

lawyers ===>

shysters !

rule of law[yers] !

and MSNBC N. Wallace to have Andrew Weissmann on to update on the "progress" of this "investigation " so they can bill for more ads during the broadcast.
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« Reply #1799 on: June 27, 2023, 06:31:30 AM »
https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/congress-has-begun-unmasking-whole-government-plot-protect-biden

Yes, the deep state has intervened on behalf of Democrats for at least four Presidential elections in a row and I'm already counting 2024.

Failure to fight back isn't going to slow this or reverse it