Author Topic: 2020 Presidential election (Read 188690 times)

DougMacG · « **Reply #850 on:** September 16, 2020, 06:28:52 AM »

Riot-zone voters back Trump 2-1, and most say violence affects vote.

In the latest Rasmussen Reports survey, 63% of voters who have seen violent protests in their community “strongly approve” of the president — just 35% don’t.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/riot-zone-voters-back-trump-2-1-and-most-say-violence-impacts-vote
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[Doug] This is hard to believe since the riots are occurring almost exclusively in deep blue cities and people change their views so slowly. But that said, just a move of 2-3 points makes a world of difference in a close election.

I drove East Lake Street (So. Mpls) Sunday. I am amazed by the streets, buildings and businesses still closed. Convenient places to shop taken from people least able to travel further for basic needs. Saw for the first time the Mpls Police precinct station wreckage, set to fire by Leftists and left to burn by the Democrat establishment of the city and the state. Same goes for W. Broadway in my North Minneapolis area. Just the closing the largest and only liquor stores in the hood is not how win over the hearts and minds of the mostly peaceful residents. What Trump said to minority voters in 2016 rings true, what have you got to lose (taking a chance on Republicans)? You've been sh*t on for so long by one party Dem rule.

ccp · « **Reply #851 on:** September 16, 2020, 06:55:39 AM »

".move of 2-3 points makes a world of difference in a close election."

maybe this is enough to counter the endless found mail in ballots that will have just arrive from China
2 weeks after the election

or every homeless person and nursing home patient and illegals who are vote harvested
by and for the Dems

we are a nation that is of the people by the people and for the Democrats only; according to the religion of WOKE.

DougMacG · « **Reply #852 on:** September 16, 2020, 07:54:57 AM »

ccp: " a move of 2-3 points makes a world of difference in a close election."

maybe this is enough to counter the endless found mail in ballots that will have just arrive from China
2 weeks after the election

or every homeless person and nursing home patient and illegals who are vote harvested
by and for the Dems
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Thank God it's still statewide elections. They can only screw up one state at a time. I don't think there's any answer for cheating except to win by larger margins.

In a Hugo Chavez recall election he trailed 40-60 and won 60-40. My reaction was, what were those 40% who supported him thinking. But that cheating was nationwide in centralized computers. Democrats are limited to cheating in large cities in divided states, Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, Miami, Phoenix, Las Vegas. etc. Places to keep an eye on.

Main point is that this shift underway devalues the Get-out-the-Vote effort. Not every vote in their neighborhoods is for them anymore. Inner city people move more often so their information gets old fast. Trump has better lists at this point. That comes with greater enthusiasm and strategic rally placements. Everyone who signed up for a rally gave up their email and cell number to the campaign for a free ticket. Also coronavirus has slowed the massive Dem, in person operation.

DougMacG · « **Reply #853 on:** September 17, 2020, 07:36:29 AM »

Rasmussen poll, Trump overtakes Biden by one point. Presidential approval rate at 52%.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/git-r-done-trump-overtakes-biden-47-46-hits-52-approval

RealClearPolitics betting odds average favors Biden by 52 to 48. If you believed most of the other polls posted, those odds would be closer to Biden 100. Watch for the betting odds to flip as well.

Carleton College political science Professor Steve Scherer says, watch what the candidates do to know what their internal polls are saying. Joe Biden is heading to Minnesota today while polls and Democrats say Minnesota's 10 electoral votes owned by democrats for 48 years are not in play. Obama Biden won Minnesota in 2008 by double digits. Funny that the candidate that leads in all but one poll all year is running scared.

Democrats recently and proudly called their many sure states the "Blue Wall". Now they call the Electoral College "anti-democratic" . Only the popular vote, they argue, should determine who wins the highest office.

Strangely, the Constitution uses the word democracy to describe our new form of government exactly zero times, but goes on and on with articles and clauses designed to prevent rule by simple majority.

ccp · « **Reply #854 on:** September 17, 2020, 11:34:02 AM »

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/russia-election-biden/2020/09/17/id/987420/

"U.S. agencies previously focused on “efforts to combat malign foreign influence focused solely on the threat posed by Russia,” Wray said, but now the Federal Bureau of Investigation is “widening its aperture” leading into the Nov. 3 election “to confront malign foreign operations of China, Iran, and other global adversaries.”

When are they going to tell us that china iran want Biden?

Nov 4?

Does anyone think Russia has not been interfering in US politics since at least 1917?

Does anyone think Trump won '16 because of Russia?

Does anyone think Russia would be able to get him a win in '20?

I certainly say 'no' to all 3 questions.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #855 on:** September 18, 2020, 11:41:17 PM »

If she is not replaced before the election, there is real chance of election cases coming before the SCOTUS yielding 4-4 votes.

ccp · « **Reply #856 on:** September 20, 2020, 03:49:47 PM »

as per CBS poll
meaning Trump is ahead

One can only imagine the war teams of Dems scouring every square micron of Dade and Broward counties figuring out how to sweep out from under the rocks every mail in ballot they can find or make up

could the election result depend on the Democrats stalling to find more votes in SE Florida as it did in 2000?

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #857 on:** September 21, 2020, 10:43:48 AM »

https://www.dickmorris.com/trump-takes-lead-in-most-reliable-poll-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports

ccp · « **Reply #858 on:** September 24, 2020, 07:52:38 AM »

https://zogbyanalytics.com/

ppulatie · « **Reply #859 on:** September 24, 2020, 05:20:31 PM »

I have Trump at 307 electoral votes now. Have taken poll results and adjusted to bias to get there.

Now, it appears that Virginia and Minnesota may both be in play for Trump as well.

Gigi concurs with my numbers.

G M · « **Reply #860 on:** September 24, 2020, 05:45:12 PM »

Quote from: ppulatie on September 24, 2020, 05:20:31 PM

I have Trump at 307 electoral votes now. Have taken poll results and adjusted to bias to get there.

Now, it appears that Virginia and Minnesota may both be in play for Trump as well.

Gigi concurs with my numbers.

What of the 307 cubic tons of fraudulent mail in ballots?

ppulatie · « **Reply #861 on:** September 25, 2020, 07:21:44 AM »

If they have 307 tons of fraudulent ballots, we have already lost. So I am moving to a free country. Maybe Liberia.

No, seriously, I think the issue is being overblown. And even if Michigan and Penn can be won that way, there is still plenty of cushion of EV votes.

Of course, if Biden does win through outride fraud, CW 2 is on, just like if Trump wins no matter what.

ccp · « **Reply #862 on:** September 25, 2020, 07:45:19 AM »

for ten straight days

Oh would this not be sweet if he could win? !

right back in the face of the Bloomberg's Soros's Zuckerberg's the Gate's the CNN mob
the beltway mob and worst of all the never Trump Republicans

https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1309498982415175681

ppulatie · « **Reply #863 on:** September 25, 2020, 09:51:10 AM »

FYI, the places I write for or comment on are revealing an "undercurrent" of people who either will not tell pollsters the truth on who they are voting for, or else have plenty of liberal relatives who voted in 16 for Hillary and are now changing to Trump.

Polls are not picking up this undercurrent.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #864 on:** September 25, 2020, 09:56:05 AM »

Good to have you back with us Pat!

ppulatie · « **Reply #865 on:** September 25, 2020, 10:17:13 AM »

Thanks! As I get time, aka feel good and write, will be around. (Doing good now, but the tiredness really gets to me each day.)

DougMacG · « **Reply #866 on:** September 25, 2020, 07:16:09 PM »

5 days before the end of Q3:

"The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the third quarter of 2020 is 32.0 percent on September 25"

- GDP Now, Atlanta Fed

ppulatie · « **Reply #867 on:** September 26, 2020, 12:24:00 PM »

GDP model really means little under the Covid mess. Is an outdated model anyway.

Still have Trump at 316 Electoral Votes right now with 3-4 states that could flip to him from Biden, and another 2 that could flip from him to Biden.

Still a solid lead.

DougMacG · « **Reply #868 on:** September 26, 2020, 04:05:02 PM »

Yes, the GDP model is flawed anyway. The point here is bragging rights coming into election day. Second quarter was a record downturn. The news coming into the election will be greatest quarter over quarter growth ever, just in case they want to talk about a bad covid economy.

Incomes grew in one year in 2019 more then it grew in 8 years under Obama Biden.

The question should be, who will grow us out of this better. The answer should be obvious.

G M · « **Reply #869 on:** September 26, 2020, 04:30:47 PM »

Quote from: DougMacG on September 26, 2020, 04:05:02 PM

Yes, the GDP model is flawed anyway. The point here is bragging rights coming into election day. Second quarter was a record downturn. The news coming into the election will be greatest quarter over quarter growth ever, just in case they want to talk about a bad covid economy.

Incomes grew in one year in 2019 more then it grew in 8 years under Obama Biden.

The question should be, who will grow us out of this better. The answer should be obvious.

It's because the economy is racist!

ppulatie · « **Reply #870 on:** September 27, 2020, 09:21:19 AM »

Rasmussen Nevada poll has Biden leading by +1 only. If things hold, it is now Trump at 622 Electoral Votes.

ccp · « **Reply #871 on:** September 27, 2020, 10:55:18 AM »

".Rasmussen Nevada poll has Biden leading by +1 only. If things hold, it is now Trump at 622 Electoral Votes"

Why should I believe this over CNN or ABC or NBC polls?

Zogby on Jewish vote , the usual numbers :

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/newsmax-zogby-poll-jewish-voters-back-trump/2020/09/27/id/989070/

DougMacG · « **Reply #872 on:** September 27, 2020, 12:42:34 PM »

"...44% ... say they know friends or family who are voting for Trump but won’t say it publicly."

Not to mention that a good part of his support comes from people who 'disapprove' of him.

Polls have mostly favored Biden (by about 0%). Facts on the ground seem to favor Trump.

Biden propped up by 200 million? put into Florida alone by one donor Bloomberg.
How did Bloomberg's money do supporting Bloomberg? Harris will be a ~~showperson~~ questioner in the Barrett hearings. And now the debates... Can Trump get a plus score on the likeability test?

ccp · « **Reply #873 on:** September 28, 2020, 04:25:38 AM »

If one looks at her series of illegal activity one can conclude Omar is a serial life long criminal:

https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2020/09/27/project-veritas-strikes-again-voter-fraud-aids-rep-ilhan-omar-n973527

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #874 on:** September 28, 2020, 06:12:44 AM »

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/new-project-veritas-video-voter-fraud-in-ilhan-omars-district/

ppulatie · « **Reply #875 on:** September 28, 2020, 10:20:35 AM »

One doctor I know in the neighborhood absolutely hates Trump. Wishes he were "cancelled." But when he looks at Biden v Trump, he admits that he must vote for the "narcissistic liar" over the "demented fool."

Wonder how many people are like this?

DougMacG · « **Reply #876 on:** September 28, 2020, 10:51:30 AM »

On this day in 2016 (roughly), Clinton led Trump by 14 points, if you believe 'mainstream' polls.

There is no way to hold the polls accountable for errors in September, so all they really have to do is advance their narrative for as long as they can get away with it.

Analysis on Rush L, the polls are able to oversample Republican surburban women who don't favor Trump and undersample Democrat working voters who tend to favor Trump in order to say their poll is balanced.

A 10 point polling error is easy if you try.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #877 on:** September 28, 2020, 04:59:38 PM »

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/07/28/non-partisan-watchdog-accuses-trump-campaign-of-laundering-170-million/#35873ee76128

ccp · « **Reply #878 on:** September 28, 2020, 05:10:44 PM »

".Analysis on Rush L, the polls are able to oversample Republican surburban women who don't favor Trump and undersample Democrat working voters who tend to favor Trump in order to say their poll is balanced."

Yes I heard the Great Rush
give a anonymous pollster's explanation for how the polls are being manipulated by all the mainstream media orgs

and Doug as he pointed out the are Oversampling Republican women in the burbs and

also Undersampling Democrats in swing areas where many would vote for Trump

DougMacG · « **Reply #879 on:** September 29, 2020, 06:49:24 AM »

Trump is the underdog. Being overconfident won't do it. He needs to work his strategy smartly the entire 90 minutes. Point out the things the media will not give him credit for and do it with precision in words that holds up to the scrutiny of the phony fact checkers sure to follow. Connect policies with results and Biden's reversing policies with a reversing of results. Take us through the key economic and foreign policy accomplishments and make the case for continuing the course. Explain the correct role of the courts and why voters should choose constitutional principles, not politicians in robes.

[Example: "You have vowed to rescind the Trump tax cuts. Can you think of a single example of a country that recovered from a recession by raising taxes?"
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/09/28/25-questions-joe-biden-should-be-asked-in-the-debate/]

Make Biden choose between socialist and moderate, get him to separate from socialist Left policy proposals in his party, or endorse them. Don't settle for blank canvas or fence sitting.

Get Biden to take clear policy positions, tax rates, spending, energy, fracking, Iran, China, etc. [that would take us backwards]. Follow up on the things he says that don't work, don't make sense and contradict past words and positions. Get us off fossil fuels by 2035? What fossil fuel production and uses will he ban now? None?
All? Make clear how all these Dem policies hurt and cost the poor and the working people.

["Do you or do you not support a ban on fracking? If you do, what do you say to the estimated 7.5 million American jobs that will be lost due to such a ban, which includes an estimated 550,000 jobs lost in Pennsylvania, 500,000 jobs lost in Ohio, 363,000 jobs lost in North Carolina, 353,000 jobs lost in Colorado, and 233,000 jobs lost in Michigan?"]

Get Biden to contradict himself and call him out on it. Crime bill for example, hard prison time for black crack use but not for addict Hunter. You would open our borders but protect us from Covid?!

Get a commitment from Biden to not pack the Court if he wins, or admit he will.

Lay out the case that Obama and Biden spearheaded the shameful FBI abuses.

Give reason and confidence to elect Republican House and Senate to help m.A.g.a.

Do the above in a way that raises his own likeability.

ccp · « **Reply #880 on:** September 29, 2020, 07:29:36 AM »

https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-trump-campaign-strategy-to-deter-millions-of-black-americans-from-voting-in-2016

and the media to spill it out over 90% of the media airwaves

we are so disadvantaged

the corruption. nepotism pay offs stealing lying manipulation
fake news etc revealed by our weak media presence is just ignored
covered up as debunked , conspiracy theory , lies and unsubstantiated
labeled fact checked to be "wrong" etc

I wish we could push back harder

the radio and few talk show hosts we have are doing everything they can but it gets zero airtime in 90% media

now with big tech covertly and overtly against us too ..

ccp · « **Reply #881 on:** September 29, 2020, 01:28:20 PM »

Anyone for a second think he won't just HAVE to get his questions in about Trump's tax returns?

He is just so good a "jurnolist "
right before the debate the NYT dumps the tax crap out

and the media plays it up like a pack of hucksters
and of course Wallace will do his jurnolistic duty and ask about it

President Trump sir , blah blah blah

ppulatie · « **Reply #882 on:** September 29, 2020, 02:56:57 PM »

Some movement back to Biden in the polls since RBG died. May be noise.

Waiting to see what the Barrett announcement will bring. And the debate.

ccp · « **Reply #883 on:** September 29, 2020, 05:30:49 PM »

Winning Debate Strategy: Trump Announces He Will Simply Let Joe Biden Talk For The Full 90 Minutes

other news:

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ccp · « **Reply #884 on:** September 30, 2020, 04:27:30 AM »

https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #885 on:** September 30, 2020, 05:45:14 AM »

Ugh.

Fk , , ,

DougMacG · « **Reply #886 on:** September 30, 2020, 06:20:02 AM »

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on September 30, 2020, 05:45:14 AM

Ugh.

Fk , , ,

Horrible format. Three people couldn't agree on anything. No memorable moment. Neither likely gained anything.

Both interrupted rudely tonight. Trump perhaps more so, but look what he saw in debate preparation: 2012: Biden interrupted Paul Ryan 82 times.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rnc-biden-interrupted-ryan-82-times
Paul Ryan was an easy going, policy guy and all agreed he lost that debate. Trump wasn't going to let that happen to him.

Trump landed some important points. At times I was disappointed that he wasn't more clear, specific and persuasive, especially on his accomplishments.

Trump looked angry, NOT a plus, and the interruptions should have been done strategically, not constantly. Let Biden dig a hole and flail, then sum it up and call him out.

Biden was obnoxious in his own way. Made his case best he could but not inspiring. He was more coherent than the lowest expectations. I thought he didn't get as rattled as one might expect in the circumstance. His points were weak in a typical Democrat way, not because of his age and condition. But he did look old and lacked charisma.

I can't imagine anyone changing their mind over this except those deciding not to vote for either. Biden beat some expectations but his points were not persuasive. Trump frustrated his supporters by not getting a clear victory and by temperament but proved (again) he is a fighter, which is not pretty or likeable (but needed to win).

Chris Wallace showed in the first few minutes he is a registered Democrat and that this was two against one. He asked one or two tough questions of Biden but never held him to an answer, compounding the crosstalk problem.

Wallace should have ref'ed one NHL game as debate prep.

I would like to dive into the substance of the debate in a following post. The facts in the country favor Trump IMHO, but all his detractors see is a guy they hate and the reasons they hate him.

ccp · « **Reply #887 on:** September 30, 2020, 06:34:35 AM »

".Chris Wallace showed in the first few minutes he is a registered Democrat and that this was two against one. He asked one or two tough questions of Biden but never held him to an answer, compounding the crosstalk problem. "

Yup

"Trump landed some important points. At times I was disappointed that he wasn't more clear, specific and persuasive, especially on his accomplishments."

Yup

"Trump looked angry, NOT a plus"

Yup

"The facts in the country favor Trump IMHO, but all his detractors see is a guy they hate and the reasons they hate him."

Yup

indeed, I finished my shift at 9 PM and excitedly turned on the debate. Within a few minutes of it I was so annoyed by Trump's constant interruptions with sometimes incoherent emotional responses I had to turn it off for a few minutes

Katherine finally convinced me to start watching again.

Biden , always the phony .
I rolled my eyes out of my head when he said that [in 2008] "they asked me" to fix the economy and "I" did .......

come on man ; look at the data -> he had NOTHING to do with it other than sitting in on meetings .

DougMacG · « **Reply #888 on:** September 30, 2020, 06:41:14 AM »

Full transcript:
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-joe-biden-1st-presidential-debate-transcript-2020
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https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o-neil/2020/09/29/the-first-trump-biden-debate-was-a-slugfest-and-chris-wallace-got-knocked-out-n986380

"Chris Wallace interrupted Trump 35 times tonight. He did not interrupt Biden once."

DougMacG · « **Reply #889 on:** September 30, 2020, 06:47:16 AM »

Facts on the ground favor Trump.

Biden: "Antifa is an idea not an organization"

- Double check the Minneapolis, Seattle and Portland footage. If not far-Left Antifa, who are they? If not organized, what are they? The organized violence in these cities and more was not mentioned in the entire DNC, and now it is not even acknowledged by Biden. The point goes to Trump.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #890 on:** September 30, 2020, 10:47:47 AM »

FWIW

https://www.dickmorris.com/trump-dominates-the-debate-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports

ccp · « **Reply #891 on:** September 30, 2020, 02:11:20 PM »

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/rasmussen-republicans-scotus-pollster/2020/09/30/id/989694/

here we go again
back to the 70s and 80s
with this "killing" the party

and we are done

ccp · « **Reply #892 on:** September 30, 2020, 02:24:43 PM »

I tried to talk to a Republican relative of mine on Roe vs Wade being overturned would really not likely happen
since she brought it up

I suggested Maybe late term , but not the whole thing
She does not believe this and says it is all about overturning RW

This would well turn off many Republican women. if we have any left...........

Meantime she voted and wrote in Bobby Jindal's name after watching debate last night and having to take a 6.2 mile walk to be able to sleep and said "now I am very worried about out country"

ppulatie · « **Reply #893 on:** September 30, 2020, 04:09:50 PM »

Rasmuessen had to have changed the demographics of his poll to get this type of swing in just a couple of days. And of course, must subscribe to his site to be able to see the demographics he is using now.

ccp · « **Reply #894 on:** September 30, 2020, 04:26:20 PM »

Hi PP

"Rasmuessen had to have changed the demographics of his poll to get this type of swing in just a couple of days. And of course, must subscribe to his site to be able to see the demographics he is using now."

maybe

or we are just grasping at straws that are falling from the bale of hay

ppulatie · « **Reply #895 on:** September 30, 2020, 08:26:52 PM »

CCP

Other polls are showing a race tightening. Makes no sense right now. Am changing leaner states back and forth like crazy if the polls are to be believed.

Still looking at the State Polls and Trump appears to be in good shape. But then again, who the hell knows this time. Especially after last night.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #896 on:** September 30, 2020, 10:30:59 PM »

https://twitter.com/TAftermath2020/status/1311364772219158528?fbclid=IwAR0KvqE2r8hAydaIE9BOZd9XpSNrLdYFkZetiBxW019RWBZk82ogOqLD3GU

https://www.facebook.com/dan.bongino/videos/874515216411956

ccp · « **Reply #897 on:** October 01, 2020, 05:19:32 AM »

Biden slick lawyerly
denials

I am not for the "Green New Deal "

I am for the Biden Green Deal. (a slightly modified the Green New Deal "

https://nypost.com/2020/09/30/biden-says-green-new-deal-is-not-his-plan-but-campaign-calls-it-crucial-framework/

Come on man , I didn't lie. Look at the date!

And of course Wallace did not press him on , but not all his fault as Trump jumped in and Wallace had only so much time to pursue it before he must move on to the next subject.

DougMacG · « **Reply #898 on:** October 01, 2020, 05:42:48 AM »

The Roe Wade overturn isn't about abortion right or wrong, it's about a wrongly decided case. The issue (of life) belongs with the states unless and until it is written into the constitution. States will have the full range of restrictions from all to none. The median political power will allow reasonable restrictions to protect the mother and the emerging life.

The idea that we can kill and 8.5 or 9 month developed human with no possible restrictions and then watch the same liberals slobber over animal rights, cage free chickens and so on, cf. our Rachel, is absurd and anti-science, anti-moral, anti-constitutional IMHO. Imagine the outrage if we killed puppies this way.

The majority of people and the majority of states want reasonable restrictions rightfully argued out in the state legislatures. This is not a losing political issue, and the overturn of this strange decision does not in itself make abortion illegal.

The constitution does not specify trimesters.

The feminist who wants complete right with no restriction to kill her unborn, to use the right to kill as a form of contraception, 98% for reasons of convenience, and will vote everything on that one issue... ain't a Republican in 2020.

Someday (soon) we will look back at how barbaric this practice was. Meanwhile, body parts are sold back door to back door of 'medical' facilities in America like the organs 'harvested' from the political prisoner camps in China.

DougMacG · « **Reply #899 on:** October 01, 2020, 06:14:30 AM »

Brush aside the ugly images of this debate and see what lasting points were made.

1. Trump got the split he wanted between Biden and the far Left. "Not the Green New Deal", not Medicaid for all, "This is my party now". Etc.

2. Biden family corruption. The media won't touch it. Trump just did. Biden can't tell another story about Beau without people associating it with Hunter's corruption transacted off his father's 'business'.

3. Law and Order. He said Joe won't say law enforcement and he wouldn't. Joe can't name a law enforcement group that supports him and he couldn't. A big punch landed.

4. Trump: Economy open. Biden: Economy closed. The difference was clear as day.

5. Biden won't condemn Antifa or the violence on the streets.

6. Supreme Court. The Presidential term is 4 years, not 3, not 3 and half years. The voters did decide this. Point well made.

7. The rest of the judiciary, Trump appointed 300 Judges?

8. Trump admitted human component of climate change possible, and he LOVES clean, beautiful air and water. Major Democrat strike point neutralized.

9. Health care question answered best he could. Unpopular mandate gone. Drug price reform. Insulin 'the cost of water'? )

Trump points made speak to his base. You can't be conservative and not care about liberal judges taking down our country. On the other side, Biden split with his base. He's not a far lefty we were told (or is he?). In the middle, voters were turned off by both. No reason to vote unless you identify with one side or the other. (That favors Trump.) Think of Obama 2008 with the excitement of the centrists along with the leftists all together, we are the change we've been waiting for. None of that, center of Left, here with Biden. For Trump supporters, it's the policies and the Presidential actions, if not the man. For Biden, what policies? He doesn't even know.

News:

Author Topic: 2020 Presidential election (Read 188690 times)