Author Topic: 2020 Presidential election  (Read 188583 times)

ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1150 on: November 01, 2020, 03:51:38 PM »
Dems in Florida got the Early Vote back up to about 101k ahead. But 7 Rep counties were closed.

Still need at least 300k up to 650k to offset Rep Election Day voting.  With some polls now showing Trump leading, Florida should be secure.

PPulatie

ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1151 on: November 01, 2020, 03:58:15 PM »
Dems in Florida have only 104k left of super voters to go. Reps have 276k. Net gain of 172k.

Super voters are those who have voted in all of the past 4 elections. 

PPulatie

G M

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 26643
    • View Profile
Massive turnout in Chicago!
« Reply #1152 on: November 01, 2020, 07:24:23 PM »

G M

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 26643
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1153 on: November 01, 2020, 10:29:37 PM »
Less risky would be to do what seems to be the case-- they don't get to vote at all.

Perhaps. I believe the dems are all in and there isn't anything they won't do at this point.

https://gellerreport.com/2020/10/nyc-ballots-printed-4-biden.html/

ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1154 on: November 02, 2020, 07:14:24 AM »
Final Early Vote totals in for Florida. Dems lead by 108k, when they need to be ahead by at least 300k to offset GOP vote turnout on Tuesday.

Florida should be in the bag for Trump.
PPulatie

ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1155 on: November 02, 2020, 09:05:46 AM »
IBD poll.  Indies flipping to Trump.  Biden lost 2 points overnight to Trump.  3.2 lead.

Remove skewing towards Dems, shy Trump voter and Trump is leading.
PPulatie


ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1157 on: November 02, 2020, 10:18:56 AM »
Here is the Sparta Report Official Moderator Prediction thread.

https://www.spartareport.com/2020/11/sparta-report-election-predictions/
PPulatie

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19442
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1158 on: November 02, 2020, 02:31:33 PM »
Here is the Sparta Report Official Moderator Prediction thread.

https://www.spartareport.com/2020/11/sparta-report-election-predictions/

It looks good PP, we will know soon.  Hopefully!

ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1159 on: November 02, 2020, 02:46:50 PM »
Let me just say...........given all of that and all of the analysis the other Mods and I have been doing behind the scenes, I am still scared shitless that I am wrong and Biden wins.
PPulatie


DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19442
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election, Nate silver
« Reply #1161 on: November 02, 2020, 08:14:17 PM »
Biden's 90-10 chance of winning flips to 90 to 10 Trump if Trump carries a few toss-ups that he is likely to win. Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, Ohio.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/11/02/nate-silver-sees-trumps-path-to-victory-starting-in-these-three-states-n1116450

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19442
    • View Profile


ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1164 on: November 02, 2020, 10:06:29 PM »
First votes have been counted in New Hampshire.  Trump leading with over 60% of the vote.  Landslide

Votes counted:  16-10

Hey, gotta have some fun.
PPulatie

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19442
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1165 on: November 03, 2020, 06:27:29 AM »
Hey PP, Don't forget to vote!

ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1166 on: November 03, 2020, 06:32:12 AM »
Voted by mail and accepted 2 weeks ago.

Florida

Dems finished yesterday with 112k early vote lead.

Heavy voting all over. Lead is now down to 5k.  This took 1:20 minutes.

If this happens all over Murica, then the Red Wave may be the Red Tsunami!
PPulatie

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19756
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1167 on: November 03, 2020, 07:31:22 AM »
hand delivered Katherine's and my mail in ballots to the election board this am

3 police officers. one person in parking lot watching everything driving in and out from pedestrian car - I assume poll watching

very few people there yet ~ 8 or so am; opened at 6 a and "close " @ 8 pm ; but of course God knows how many ballots will come via mail over the next 3 days which of course the Dems made sure to include

small county bus showed up and about 10 people got off ; they looked they were going to work note vote actually


ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1168 on: November 03, 2020, 07:35:28 AM »
Florida R voting is now 36k OVER D voting.

PA is pulling some shenanigans. Machines in 2 heavy Trump counties are broken.

In AZ, so far R's are under performing to 2016.
PPulatie

ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1169 on: November 03, 2020, 02:08:04 PM »
Florida Rep voting is now 200k plus over Dems.  This would mean extrapolated out 5% victory margin.

Just depends upon Indy vote and how it breaks.

Michigan huge turnout.

PA blacks are voting in record numbers for Trump.

AZ close but should be a win.

NV up in the air. Rep votes leading in Washoe County. Clark is close.
PPulatie

Tordislung

  • Frequent Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 60
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1170 on: November 03, 2020, 09:10:09 PM »
Just AZ close but should be a win.

Or not.

Either way, this country has bigger problems than whoever wins this election....but everyone in this country intuitively knows that.

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19756
    • View Profile
McCarthy - yes, it could go to SCOTUS
« Reply #1171 on: November 04, 2020, 04:38:33 AM »
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/no-every-vote-does-not-count/

PS thank God we have conservative Comey
on Court now
we know for sure Roberts will vote to have every vote and Dem wants counted to go ahead and proceed

« Last Edit: November 04, 2020, 05:58:16 AM by ccp »

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19756
    • View Profile
where are all the other posters?
« Reply #1172 on: November 04, 2020, 06:17:19 AM »
out collecting mail/absentee in ballots ?   :wink:


ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1173 on: November 04, 2020, 06:17:58 AM »
Not a good morning to wake up to here.  Am in shock.

Looks like 264 for Trump, unless he can get either AZ or NV.  Otherwise it is Prez Harris.

What the hell is wrong with Americans?  Have they lost their ever loving mind?
PPulatie

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19756
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1174 on: November 04, 2020, 06:27:14 AM »
Looks like 264 for Trump, unless he can get either AZ or NV.  Otherwise it is Prez Harris.

What the hell is wrong with Americans?  Have they lost their ever loving mind?

what about PA

Wisconsin

CNBC just announced a whole bag of absentee ballots just found giving it to a senile man and Democrat militant

what a surprise

exactly as planned

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19756
    • View Profile
PP how does the Senate look
« Reply #1175 on: November 04, 2020, 06:29:43 AM »
 :-o

ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1176 on: November 04, 2020, 07:06:11 AM »
At least we have the Senate still and also SCOTUS
PPulatie

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19442
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1177 on: November 04, 2020, 07:07:14 AM »
Divided government.
The polls were BS.
LINO party got more votes (1%) than the margin.  Who saw that coming?
All the media and most of the money bought Dems essentially a tie.
Political shifts are happening in both directions.

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19756
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1178 on: November 04, 2020, 07:44:12 AM »
will Trump run again in '24 ?

he would be 78 yo

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19442
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1179 on: November 04, 2020, 08:03:52 AM »
will Trump run again in '24 ?

he would be 78 yo

And will Republicans get behind him if he does?  Will Biden be incumbent and run in 2024 if he wins now? Does either party have real rising stars?

ppulatie

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1146
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1180 on: November 04, 2020, 08:49:27 AM »
Trump will not run again. Maybe Pence, who would lose. Or Don Jr.

Biden will be 25th Amendment out by Jun. Harris in and will run in 2024.

DOOM is here.
PPulatie

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19756
    • View Profile
rich pay off felons fines so they can vote
« Reply #1181 on: November 04, 2020, 10:20:12 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lebron-james-michael-jordan-help-bloomberg-pay-felons-fees-florida-amendment-4-voting-rights-election-day-024025571.html

Bloomberg. once a democrat than an republican then an independent

now a democrat globalist elitist

I don't know what he is. frankly

self described problem solver

always in way that helps his businesses.

Tordislung

  • Frequent Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 60
    • View Profile
Re: rich pay off felons fines so they can vote
« Reply #1182 on: November 04, 2020, 10:35:49 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lebron-james-michael-jordan-help-bloomberg-pay-felons-fees-florida-amendment-4-voting-rights-election-day-024025571.html

Bloomberg. once a democrat than an republican then an independent

now a democrat globalist elitist

I don't know what he is. frankly

self described problem solver

always in way that helps his businesses.

Have they completed their sentences?
Are they law abiding?
Do they pay taxes?

Anything outside of that, is an infringement on their rights, IF society expects them to be self supporting and abide by the laws.... If not.... They don't owe anyone any allegiance at all. Why would they? You've shunned them.

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19756
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1183 on: November 04, 2020, 10:39:48 AM »
you are entitled to your opinion

and I will keep mine

I don't like celebrities paying other peoples fines to vote for Democrats
comprende

BTW , you voted your conscious

feel better
you will have a lot of liberty under Kamala Harris
« Last Edit: November 04, 2020, 10:43:23 AM by ccp »

Tordislung

  • Frequent Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 60
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1184 on: November 04, 2020, 11:42:03 AM »
you are entitled to your opinion

and I will keep mine

I don't like celebrities paying other peoples fines to vote for Democrats
comprende

BTW , you voted your conscious

feel better
you will have a lot of liberty under Kamala Harris

It's not an opinion. It's a fact. You're not making friends. That's a necessary component of winning elections, but by all means...keep shunning people...it pushes them right to the people you disagree with....even children understand that.

"President" Harris? If it gets us back to freedom faster by forcing a reset... Im all for it.

Apparently... Some people will have to find a different way to get a paycheck in Oregon these days.... Freedom....and less taxes....who would have thought those liberals would pull that off? I certainly didn't.

Maybe... You should have voted for Jo instead of thinking we should vote for your guy. You wasted your vote.

G M

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 26643
    • View Profile
We knew
« Reply #1185 on: November 04, 2020, 01:09:00 PM »

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19442
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1186 on: November 04, 2020, 01:35:00 PM »
"... gets us back to freedom faster by forcing a reset..."

That is a logic string I can not follow.  Make things worse to make things better, lose your freedoms in order to gain them back.
-----------
If someone else pays your debt to society, have you paid your debt to society?

G M

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 26643
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1187 on: November 04, 2020, 01:50:18 PM »
Yes, true Libertarian eutopia! Living in the shattered ruins of a burnt-out country. No oppressive government, except the gangs and warlords, of course.



"... gets us back to freedom faster by forcing a reset..."

That is a logic string I can not follow.  Make things worse to make things better, lose your freedoms in order to gain them back.
-----------
If someone else pays your debt to society, have you paid your debt to society?

Tordislung

  • Frequent Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 60
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1188 on: November 04, 2020, 01:55:34 PM »
"... gets us back to freedom faster by forcing a reset..."

That is a logic string I can not follow.  Make things worse to make things better, lose your freedoms in order to gain them back.
-----------
If someone else pays your debt to society, have you paid your debt to society?

"Debts to society."

Let's see the contract that was signed. I trust you have one. It's the basis of every legal agreement.

It should include mutual assent, expressing offer and more importantly, acceptance....

Do you have any of that?

Tordislung

  • Frequent Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 60
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1189 on: November 04, 2020, 02:00:27 PM »
Yes, true Libertarian eutopia! Living in the shattered ruins of a burnt-out country. No oppressive government, except the gangs and warlords, of course.



"... gets us back to freedom faster by forcing a reset..."

That is a logic string I can not follow.  Make things worse to make things better, lose your freedoms in order to gain them back.
-----------
If someone else pays your debt to society, have you paid your debt to society?

Some tears are to be expected.
People never cede control willingly nor with a light heart.

G M

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 26643
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1190 on: November 04, 2020, 02:31:51 PM »
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/selco-surprise-shtf/

Paradise!

Yes, true Libertarian eutopia! Living in the shattered ruins of a burnt-out country. No oppressive government, except the gangs and warlords, of course.



"... gets us back to freedom faster by forcing a reset..."

That is a logic string I can not follow.  Make things worse to make things better, lose your freedoms in order to gain them back.
-----------
If someone else pays your debt to society, have you paid your debt to society?

Some tears are to be expected.
People never cede control willingly nor with a light heart.

Tordislung

  • Frequent Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 60
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1191 on: November 04, 2020, 03:27:37 PM »
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/selco-surprise-shtf/

Paradise!

Yes, true Libertarian eutopia! Living in the shattered ruins of a burnt-out country. No oppressive government, except the gangs and warlords, of course.



"... gets us back to freedom faster by forcing a reset..."

That is a logic string I can not follow.  Make things worse to make things better, lose your freedoms in order to gain them back.
-----------
If someone else pays your debt to society, have you paid your debt to society?

Some tears are to be expected.
People never cede control willingly nor with a light heart.

Seen worse. Still prefer freedom. Sooner or later the Right and Left will have to learn that they're not the ones that dictate things.

Ps. Americans don't really know what it is to fight a war on their own soil. Some of us do. To live with it...every day.

Good article though.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2020, 03:45:07 PM by Tordislung »

G M

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 26643
    • View Profile
Recognize the reality
« Reply #1192 on: November 04, 2020, 07:21:53 PM »

G M

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 26643
    • View Profile
Stop the steal!
« Reply #1193 on: November 04, 2020, 08:18:25 PM »

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 72256
    • View Profile


ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19756
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1196 on: November 05, 2020, 04:19:48 AM »
"Buzzfeed later reported that according to a spokesperson at Decision Desk HQ, the votes for Biden were the result of a “data error” from a “file created by the state that we ingested.” When the state noticed the “error” it updated its count, which somehow gave 138,339 votes to Biden and zero to Trump."

"It turns out, the vote dump was the result of an alleged typo, an extra zero that had been tacked onto Biden’s vote total in Shiawassee County, Michigan"

not sure I get it. the population in that county is only about 70K in 2018 census:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiawassee_County,_Michigan

not only that 96% are white

do other counties send their ballots to this place?

like Biden says all day long , "look at the data".



DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19442
    • View Profile
https://www.google.com/search?q=john+james+senate+race&oq=john+james+&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j69i59l3j69i60l2.5525j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

"racism racism racism racism"

still works

Aren't exit polls wrong for the same reason pre election polls were wrong?  If not why not.

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 19442
    • View Profile
Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #1199 on: November 06, 2020, 05:18:59 AM »
Someone reading this from far away might wonder who won.  So do we.

Betting odds probably tell the best story.  Trump peaked at 70% chance of win at 4:30am after the election, now at 5% chance.  Late arriving mail in votes mostly favor Biden?  Military votes favor Trump?  Biden likely to win the remaining states to be called.  If he flips Georgia, that has long consequences.

A recount of the same votes will yield roughly the same result.  If there was significant fraud, that needs to be discovered now, not after the results are certified.

Polls were wrong by more than ever.  Shame on them.  Shame on us for putting so much significance in them.

Republican net loss of 1 in the Senate out of 23 to defend is good.  (Why do people expect runoffs in Georgia to go Republican?)

Democrats lost seats in the House.  Some say 6 seats, some say the number is 10 and climbing.  I think the magic number was 17.  Still possible, not likely.

Republicans made gains in the state legislature, further making the blue wave talk false.  Republicans flipped one governorship in Montana and one state legislature, NH.  Democrats flipped nothing beyond Biden's likely extremely narrow win.

Divided country.  Divided election.  Divided government.  As the NYT put it, blue wave crashed:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/us/election-state-house-legislature-governors.html

But China's release of the coronavirus succeeded.

Now what, government by executive order with Murkowski, Collins the only check on power, except Amy Coney Barrett and some other new judges.

Without a political shift, the Senate will be difficult to hold in 2022, but the House might flip in an off year.

Biden will have a hard time holding his office if he doesn't appease the far Left.

I think Trump 2024 is unrealistic.  He will hold that open for attention but there are some problems with it.  He just lost to the worst candidate ever.

How Joe Biden governs will be determined by one main person, Jill Biden.