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google search misdirects me to more politically correct sites
« Reply #603 on: December 11, 2020, 04:37:08 AM »
I search on Google

for "populist.press" and NPR comes up as well as about 13 other sites before this one comes up.

I put in "populist.press.com" and still get some sort of education page

nothing to see here 

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Re: The Goolag, Google is evil
« Reply #604 on: December 11, 2020, 05:22:57 AM »
Google finds things for us.  More importantly, Google hides things from us, as much as they can, for as long as they can get away with it.

During the entire 2016 campaign a search of Hillary emails yielded page after page of everything except her email scandal.

In China they use this power to keep a murderous regime in power.

Other search engines often use Google as the underlying engine.

Youtube, owned by Google, will not play videos of election fraud.

They are the gatekeepers of our minds and communications.  It is just the opposite of what we thought the information revolution would bring.


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fB factchecker funded by TikTok
« Reply #606 on: December 11, 2020, 09:04:40 AM »
you mean to tell me FB with market cap
of 776 bill

is letting a mortal enemy country control the fact check

how utterly stupid and sick

the Chinese continue to make God Darn fools of us
and the techs and globalists just keep selling us out.



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T-Mobile censorship
« Reply #611 on: December 15, 2020, 10:21:24 PM »

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Totally fine!
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They have plans
« Reply #618 on: December 22, 2020, 05:03:43 PM »

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EU seeks to update its Reg of Big Tech
« Reply #620 on: December 24, 2020, 07:27:34 PM »
The EU Seeks to Update Its Regulation of Big Tech
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Dec 23, 2020 | 15:59 GMT
EU flags fly outside the European Commission building in Brussels on Dec. 7, 2020.
EU flags fly outside the European Commission building in Brussels on Dec. 7, 2020.

(KENZO TRIBOUILLARD/AFP via Getty Images)
HIGHLIGHTS
Sweeping new EU draft rules will increase the pressure on large tech companies, but debates over their proposed requirements and penalties will likely limit their impact on big tech. The legislation's ultimate fate depends in part on how the European Union frames the proposals to the incoming Biden administration because its receptivity to rules that disproportionately affect U.S. firms could prove decisive to their implementation....

Sweeping new EU draft rules will increase the pressure on large tech companies, but debates over their proposed requirements and penalties will likely limit their impact on big tech. The European Commission, the executive arm of the European Union, on Dec. 15 unveiled two complementary pieces of draft legislation, the Digital Services Act (DSA) and the Digital Markets Act (DMA). Broadly, the measures aim to make big tech more accountable and transparent, and to prevent and remediate anti-competitive behaviors. Both proposals establish fines for rule breakers; in the most extreme cases, they threaten temporary operating suspensions and forced divestitures of some of their business lines.

The DSA encompasses all companies that offer a wide range of digital services in the European Union, although the largest tech giants face special rules. Based on their role, size, and importance, companies face a sliding scale of stricter obligations that broadly aim to make them more accountable to users and regulators and more transparent in their activities and use of information.

The DMA applies only to companies deemed digital "gatekeepers" as defined by their entrenched size and control of an important core service like online search engines. These firms — which, though unnamed, presumably include Apple, Amazon, Facebook, and Google's parent company, Alphabet — face a specific set of requirements and prohibitions on certain practices meant to promote competition and innovation.

A list of Highlights of Draft EU Digital Legislation

The proposals aim to reform an outdated regulatory framework amid growing trans-Atlantic concerns about big tech's influence by trying to increase transparency and prevent anti-competitive behavior. Regulators on both sides of the Atlantic are converging on a consensus on the need to rein in big tech. Existing EU digital rules entered into force when most of today's tech giants either did not exist or were significantly smaller. The European Union hopes the DSA and DMA will provide regulatory and enforcement powers better suited for 21st century concerns, mirroring its similarly ambitious effort to modernize and unify the bloc's personal data policies through the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), though that framework has not dented big tech's influence in the way its advocates had hoped it would.

Both European and U.S. regulators are pursuing lawsuits and investigations against tech giants. In November, the European Commission relied on the bloc's 1958 founding treaty to accuse Amazon of violating general competition rules by exploiting the data it collects from other businesses for its own benefit, a practice the DMA would explicitly forbid.

Similarly, since 2019 the U.S. federal and state governments have sued or launched inquiries into Alphabet, Amazon, Apple and Facebook for various alleged antitrust violations. In October, a House Judiciary Committee report found that Alphabet, Amazon, Apple and Facebook had abused their market dominance and recommended considering a series of steps similar to those proposed in the DSA and DMA. While House Republican members may not support more radical ideas like forced divestitures, they are onboard with others, such as giving more resources and legal powers to officials charged with enforcing antitrust measures to block competition-reducing acquisitions and bring lawsuits against rule breakers.

Various political and legal challenges and disagreements over certain provisions will limit the legislation's immediate impact and probably restrain some of the more ambitious proposals. Margrethe Vestager, the EU competition chief who helped lead the DSA and DMA rollout, estimated that it would take at least a year and a half for the proposals to become law and another half year for them to become enforceable. The process is likely to be longer judging from the six-year timeline from introduction to enforcement of the GDPR. The DSA and DMA must be reviewed by EU lawmakers and national leaders, all of whom will be intensely lobbied by large technology companies; they will then draft their own versions to be examined and reconciled with the European Commission proposals.

Rules on content moderation in the DSA could become a particular flashpoint. In the current proposal, one EU member can demand a company based in another remove content it considers illegal, which could quickly devolve into disputes over differences in members' laws, particularly regarding more illiberal states like Hungary and Poland. A similar concern held up agreement on the EU's recently adopted legislation on online terrorist content. Another debate is likely to arise on the question of harmful content — or content that is not illegal, but is seen as problematic — such as disinformation or hate speech. The DSA pointedly leaves such content outside its purview, but multiple EU members seek its inclusion, which could lead to significant debates not only over whether and how to include such content, but also over how to reconcile it with free speech protections.

Ireland, which houses the EU headquarters of many big tech firms, and regulators in Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden have expressed concerns about the DMA's "ex-ante" antitrust framework, which preemptively requires gatekeepers to take certain steps before there is evidence of actual harm to competition. Ireland is skeptical that gatekeepers require special interventions to boost competition, while the Nordic authorities note that the proposed list of obligations for gatekeepers can have both pro- and anti-competitive effects and are ill-suited to the fast-moving tech market, which could stifle innovation by disincentivizing dynamism rather than enhance it.

The strictest penalties — temporary operating suspensions and forced divestitures — are unlikely to be used. First, the DSA and DMA make clear that these penalties are a last resort and would apply only in the most extraordinary circumstances after repeated and gross noncompliance. European regulators pondering such penalties would likely face pushback from their own citizens, who rely on big tech offerings in their daily lives and have shown little appetite for forgoing them.

Fines are also highly unlikely to be assessed close to their maximum levels, and probably will involve long gaps between the offense and their imposition — particularly given likely legal challenges, thereby limiting their deterrent power. In December, Ireland's GDPR regulator fined Twitter 450,000 euros (about $548,000), a small fraction of the maximum allowable amount, over a data breach nearly two years ago in the first case involving a U.S. tech giant where a national regulator consulted with the European Commission. The case took so long in part because Ireland wanted to impose an even smaller fine, but had to boost the amount after pushback from the commission, demonstrating different European perspectives and challenges on regulating big tech.

The legislation's ultimate fate depends in part on how the European Union frames the proposals to the incoming Biden administration because its receptivity to rules that disproportionately affect U.S. firms could prove decisive to their implementation. If the European Union portrays the drafts as a way to raise standards for all firms and provides assurances that it does not seek to use them to help smaller European companies displace U.S. tech giants, the Biden administration — hardly sympathetic to big tech — is more likely to lend support, even if it advocates for some changes around the edges on behalf firms that comprise an important part of the U.S. economy. By contrast, should EU leaders — perhaps in selling the proposals to domestic audiences — characterize the DSA and DMA as vehicles to benefit European firms and undercut U.S. companies, despite its big tech skepticism, the Biden administration would likely see the legislation as more hostile and object to the EU unfairly scrutinizing and punishing U.S. tech champions. Ironically, while the DSA and DMA offer opportunities for European tech firms to grow and compete, long an EU-wide goal, they also impose potentially substantial risks: EU leaders who present the proposals as a way to develop indigenous tech giants risk not only provoking the Biden administration to see the rules as unilaterally targeting U.S. companies, but also risk overselling the legislation's potential benefits.

The DMA more than the DSA risks stifling smaller European firms' ability to compete rather than enhancing it, as multiple industry groups have noted. Although the digital ecosystems led by gatekeepers give them major power, they also give smaller firms, which rely on them, a common platform to reach large user bases and scale much faster and cheaper than otherwise possible. For example, forcing Apple to allow third-party app stores to compete with its own — something the DMA would do — could fragment the market and make it much harder and more expensive for smaller firms to expand. More broadly, by specifying a list of do's and don'ts the DMA risks creating a blunt instrument ill-suited to dynamic markets that would stifle the innovation and incentive to scale it aims to foster.

Examining the effects so far of the GDPR, a similarly ambitious set of digital rules, also suggests that small firms may struggle with the requirements proposed by the DSA and DMA. At least some initial research indicates that the GDPR has deterred investment in smaller EU firms and imposed compliance costs that raised the barrier to market entry. According to an EU survey in 2019, a year after the GDPR became enforceable about half of small businesses were noncompliant with two of its key requirements, and a large number of executives did not understand many of the legislation’s requirements.


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Re: Good thing that can't happen here!
« Reply #626 on: January 08, 2021, 07:03:59 AM »
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/singapore-police-force-can-obtain-tracetogether-data-covid-19-13889914

This was a part of the danger when they started talking about contact tracing to stop the spread.  If not the phone, wait until they offer you the embedded chip.  What is good for your dog is good for you, right?

With the Dem takeover of Washington I expect big breakthroughs in the area of protecting the privacy of Americans. (sarcasm alert)

Of course it IS happening here.  You are now a "toxic individualist" if you believe the state should not exercise all powers possible to combat the dangers of covid, and every other threat.

With the Left, the limits of government power contained in the constitution change meaning continuously to fit their most current whims.

I'm hoping to release a bumper sticker removal product on Amazon this month to meet the demand of Leftists removing their "resist" bumper sticker.

'Resist' is now treason.
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Re: Google removes Parler App from store
« Reply #631 on: January 08, 2021, 07:56:32 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/08/google-removes-parler-app-from-google-play-store.html

Anti-competitive, monopolistic behavior.  Will the Merrick Garland Justice Dept be independent or be run by Obama era henchman?

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Re: Google removes Parler App from store
« Reply #632 on: January 08, 2021, 09:11:16 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/08/google-removes-parler-app-from-google-play-store.html

Anti-competitive, monopolistic behavior.  Will the Merrick Garland Justice Dept be independent or be run by Obama era henchman?

Heh!



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https://www.theepochtimes.com/twitter-suspends-accounts-of-sidney-powell-michael-flynn_3649578.html?utm_source=morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-01-09

Jim Jordan and Rush too?

Rush left I think in protest to the treatment of Trump.  I don't think he was active on twitter, hated the medium.

Invite them to the forum.


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Free Speech, The Town Square, Non-governmental Action, and Anti-Trust
« Reply #638 on: January 09, 2021, 08:02:44 PM »
This is something I quickly tossed off on FB so it is very rough.  I post it here as a form of note taking because I sense there is the seed of a good analysis/argument here.

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The point which your passionate analysis does not include is the oligopolistic/quasi-monopoly power of the companies that comprise the Goolag (Google, FB, Twitter, Youtube, etc)

I used to work for the Anti-Trust Division of the Federal Trade Commission (second summer of law school, so my claim here is rather minimal) and have maintained an interest in anti-trust issues over the years.
In addition to the AT issues present with control over the flow of speech, there are also the AT issues that come with using that monopolistic power, perhaps as an oligopoly acting in conspiracy, to bully competitors .

There is also the strand of free speech jurisprudence concerning the question of when the "town square" is on private property.

Fresh territory is being blazed in this area with what IMHO can properly be described as a conspiracy between the Tech Oligopoly and the State e.g. we will bury the story of your son naming you as being on the payroll of our number one adversary in return for you giviing us what we want (ending tariffs and other things with regard to China, blocking efforts to end Section 230 etc.)

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Re: Free Speech, The Town Square, Non-governmental Action, and Anti-Trust
« Reply #639 on: January 10, 2021, 07:13:33 AM »
This is something I quickly tossed off on FB so it is very rough.  I post it here as a form of note taking because I sense there is the seed of a good analysis/argument here.

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The point which your passionate analysis does not include is the oligopolistic/quasi-monopoly power of the companies that comprise the Goolag (Google, FB, Twitter, Youtube, etc)

I used to work for the Anti-Trust Division of the Federal Trade Commission (second summer of law school, so my claim here is rather minimal) and have maintained an interest in anti-trust issues over the years.
In addition to the AT issues present with control over the flow of speech, there are also the AT issues that come with using that monopolistic power, perhaps as an oligopoly acting in conspiracy, to bully competitors .

There is also the strand of free speech jurisprudence concerning the question of when the "town square" is on private property.

Fresh territory is being blazed in this area with what IMHO can properly be described as a conspiracy between the Tech Oligopoly and the State e.g. we will bury the story of your son naming you as being on the payroll of our number one adversary in return for you giving us what we want (ending tariffs and other things with regard to China, blocking efforts to end Section 230 etc.)


Yes.  But with the state becoming a named co-conspirator, who initiates the anti-trust action?

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Amazon shutting down Parler
« Reply #640 on: January 10, 2021, 07:14:24 AM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130649/Conservative-social-media-platform-Parler-banned-Apple.html

Parler faces SHUTDOWN: Amazon vows to switch off 'free-speech' site's servers at midnight as Apple follows Google in banning it
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Land of the free!
« Reply #641 on: January 10, 2021, 09:09:33 AM »





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Save the Constitution from Big Tech
« Reply #647 on: January 12, 2021, 06:43:58 AM »
Save the Constitution from Big Tech:
By Vivek Ramaswamy and Jed Rubenfeld
WSJ

Facebook and Twitter banned President Trump and numerous supporters after last week’s disgraceful Capitol riot, and Google, Apple and Amazon blocked Twitter alternative Parler—all based on claims of “incitement to violence” and “hate speech.” Silicon Valley titans cite their ever-changing “terms of service,” but their selective enforcement suggests political motives.

Conventional wisdom holds that technology companies are free to regulate content because they are private, and the First Amendment protects only against government censorship. That view is wrong: Google, Facebook and Twitter should be treated as state actors under existing legal doctrines. Using a combination of statutory inducements and regulatory threats, Congress has co-opted Silicon Valley to do through the back door what government cannot directly accomplish under the Constitution.

It is “axiomatic,” the Supreme Court held in Norwood v. Harrison (1973), that the government “may not induce, encourage or promote private persons to accomplish what it is constitutionally forbidden to accomplish.” That’s what Congress did by enacting Section 230 of the 1996 Communications Decency Act, which not only permits tech companies to censor constitutionally protected speech but immunizes them from liability if they do so.

The justices have long held that the provision of such immunity can turn private action into state action. In Railway Employees’ Department v. Hanson (1956), they found state action in private union-employer closed-shop agreements—which force all employees to join the union—because Congress had passed a statute immunizing such agreements from liability under state law. In Skinner v. Railway Labor Executives Association(1989), the court again found state action in private-party conduct—drug tests for company employees—because federal regulations immunized railroads from liability if they conducted those tests. In both cases, as with Section 230, the federal government didn’t mandate anything; it merely pre-empted state law, protecting certain private parties from lawsuits if they engaged in the conduct Congress was promoting.

Section 230 is the carrot, and there’s also a stick: Congressional Democrats have repeatedly made explicit threats to social-media giants if they failed to censor speech those lawmakers disfavored. In April 2019, Louisiana Rep. Cedric Richmond warned Facebook and Google that they had “better” restrict what he and his colleagues saw as harmful content or face regulation: “We’re going to make it swift, we’re going to make it strong, and we’re going to hold them very accountable.” New York Rep. Jerrold Nadler added: “Let’s see what happens by just pressuring them.”

Such threats have worked. In September 2019, the day before another congressional grilling was to begin, Facebook announced important new restrictions on “hate speech.” It’s no accident that big tech took its most aggressive steps against Mr. Trump just as Democrats were poised to take control of the White House and Senate. Prominent Democrats promptly voiced approval of big tech’s actions, which Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal expressly attributed to “a shift in the political winds.”

For more than half a century courts have held that governmental threats can turn private conduct into state action. In Bantam Books v. Sullivan (1963), the Supreme Court found a First Amendment violation when a private bookseller stopped selling works state officials deemed “objectionable” after they sent him a veiled threat of prosecution. In Carlin Communications v. Mountain States Telephone & Telegraph Co. (1987), the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals found state action when an official induced a telephone company to stop carrying offensive content, again by threat of prosecution.

As the Second Circuit held in Hammerhead Enterprises v. Brezenoff (1983), the test is whether “comments of a government official can reasonably be interpreted as intimating that some form of punishment or adverse regulatory action will follow the failure to accede to the official’s request.” Mr. Richmond’s comments, along with many others, easily meet that test. Notably, the Ninth Circuit held it didn’t matter whether the threats were the “real motivating force” behind the private party’s conduct; state action exists even if he “would have acted as he did independently.”

Either Section 230 or congressional pressure alone might be sufficient to create state action. The combination surely is. Suppose a Republican Congress enacted a statute giving legal immunity to any private party that obstructs access to abortion clinics. Suppose further that Republican congressmen explicitly threatened private companies with punitive laws if they fail to act against abortion clinics. If those companies did as Congress demands, then got an attaboy from lawmakers, progressives would see the constitutional problem.

Republicans including Mr. Trump have called for Section 230’s repeal. That misses the point: The damage has already been done. Facebook and Twitter probably wouldn’t have become behemoths without Section 230, but repealing the statute now may simply further empower those companies, which are better able than smaller competitors to withstand liability. The right answer is for courts to recognize what lawmakers did: suck the air out of the Constitution by dispatching big tech to do what they can’t. Now it’s up to judges to fill the vacuum, with sound legal precedents in hand.

Liberals should worry too. If big tech can shut down the president, what stops them from doing the same to Joe Biden if he backs antitrust suits against social-media companies? Our Framers deeply understood the need for checks and balances in government. They couldn’t anticipate the rise of a new Leviathan with unchecked power to make extraconstitutional political judgments under the mantle of private enterprise.

American democracy is under siege from Silicon Valley’s political plutocracy. Next week Mr. Trump will be a private citizen without a Twitter account. Our new class of corporate monarchs will still control whether and how Americans can hear from the president—or anyone else. We have devolved from a three-branch federal government to one with a branch office in Silicon Valley. But there’s no democratic accountability for Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg.

Hard cases make bad law, and Mr. Trump presented America with a hard case last week. The breach of the Capitol is a stain on American history, and Silicon Valley seized on the attack to do what Congress couldn’t by suppressing the kind of political speech the First Amendment was designed to protect.

There’s more at stake than free speech. Suppression of dissent breeds terror. The answer to last week’s horror should be to open more channels of dialogue, not to close them off. If disaffected Americans no longer have an outlet to be heard, the siege of Capitol Hill will look like a friendly parley compared with what’s to come.

Ordinary Americans understand the First Amendment better than the elites do. Users who say Facebook, Twitter and Google are violating their constitutional rights are right. Aggrieved plaintiffs should sue these companies now to protect the voice of every American—and our constitutional democracy.

Mr. Ramaswamy is founder and CEO of Roivant Sciences and author of the forthcoming book “Woke Inc.” Mr. Rubenfeld, a constitutional scholar, has advised parties who are litigating or may litigate against Google and Facebook.


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Re: GAB hits a grand slam
« Reply #649 on: January 13, 2021, 03:08:32 AM »
https://100percentfedup.com/gab-ceo-pulls-off-the-impossible-for-trump-completely-backed-up-president-trumps-twitter-account-before-deleted-and-recreated-him-on-gab/

What do we know about GAB?

Gab.com

They have been attacked since the start by the left. Endless attempts to deplatform them has only made them more bulletproof. They are supposed to have picked up about a million subscribers in the last few days, which is straining their capacity at this time.