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« Reply #150 on: December 01, 2021, 07:19:06 AM »
"The new FAA records also reveal 704 previously unknown flights taken by Epstein's planes. These include hundreds of trips from a three-year gap in the public record, from 2013 to 2016, when the jets' movements were unaccounted for."

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100 % proof to me this is cover up
« Reply #156 on: December 08, 2021, 08:44:20 AM »
".ideo footage of the area around Jeffrey Epstein‘s jail cell on a day he apparently tried to kill himself “no longer exists,” Federal prosecutors told a judge Thursday. Officials at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York believed they had preserved footage of guards finding Jeffrey Epstein after he appeared to have attempted suicide, but actually saved a video from a different part of the jail, prosecutors said.

The FBI also has determined that the footage does not exist on the jail’s backup video system “as a result of technical errors,” Assistant U.S. Attorneys Maurene Comey and Jason Swergold wrote in a court filing. "

This is exactly the sort of SHIT that is pulled at the Copyright office

"Oh sorry mistake was made!"
   copyright switched by mistake ....
   wrong thing saved ......
   Just vanished due being filled in wrong place - give us a receipt or we are unable to ever find
     it.  (after receipts stolen from home)
   We made a copy  but due to 'technical errors "  it is gone
   
Same crap

Folks this is clearly a cover up to the max degree
the rest is all bullshit.

God, even the FBI are out of their league with big time white collar criminals........

and finally , the agencies would rather admit to mistakes (can blame lower level empolyees)
  then admit to corruption or illegal activity

Trust me I learned the hard way


   


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« Reply #157 on: December 08, 2021, 08:50:14 AM »
like someone at Judicial Watch told me

when I explained the fraud I experienced

said :

"welcome to [the real] DC !" 




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Re: Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell
« Reply #158 on: December 08, 2021, 02:37:58 PM »
What is the nature/source of the assertion that it was Comey's daughter who did the deed?





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Re: Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell
« Reply #164 on: December 20, 2021, 08:11:16 AM »
Dec 6

https://news.yahoo.com/evidence-jeffrey-epsteins-safe-went-013331792.html

The Telegraph
Evidence from Jeffrey Epstein's safe 'went missing' after FBI raid, court hears in Ghislaine Maxwell trial
Josie Ensor
December 6, 2021·3 min read

An FBI special agent testified to a New York court in Ghislaine Maxwell's sex trafficking trial on Monday that evidence “went missing” from Jeffrey Epstein’s New York townhouse while authorities were waiting on a warrant.

Special Agent Kelly Maguire recalled how CDs and other items were recovered by the FBI from a locked safe during an initial search of the Manhattan home on July 6 and July 7, 2019, after Epstein’s arrest on sex assault charges.

The FBI agent said officers broke open the safe with a saw, finding the CDs, jewellery, computer hard drives, "loose diamonds", passports and “large amounts of US currency.”

They took photographs of the items, but left them at the residence as they did not have the warrant to remove them. When they returned four days later, on July 11, they were no longer there.

Agent Maguire, a member of an FBI Child Exploitation and Human Trafficking Task Force, said she then called Richard Kahn, Epstein’s lawyer who now serves as the executor of the later financier’s estate, to ask what happened to the items.

“Twenty to thirty minutes after the conversation, Richard Kahn came to the residence and brought them items back in two suitcases,” Agent Maguire said.

She could not confirm the content on the returned CDs was the same as the ones that were taken, but confirmed all the items were accounted for.

Boxes of CDs and hard drives were discovered in several rooms in Epstein’s eight-storey Upper East Side apartment in Manhattan, including in a so-called massage room. Some, Agent McGuire testified, had “evidence tape” sealing them. She told the court the tape had not been put there by police.

On the fifth floor, FBI agents also found a shelf full of large black binders. The binders held CDs, carefully categorised in plastic slipcovers and thumbnails with photos on them.

Another FBI agent who took to the stand on the sixth day of Ms Maxwell sex-trafficking trial confirmed one CD contained a photograph of the British socialite and Epstein.

Federal prosecutors previously alluded to the contents of the safe in July, 2019, when they sought to have a judge deny Epstein's bail application later that month.

Epstein's French neoclassical townhouse at 9 East 71st Street is on one of the most fashionable blocks on the Upper East Side. - Dan Callister
Epstein's French neoclassical townhouse at 9 East 71st Street is on one of the most fashionable blocks on the Upper East Side. - Dan Callister
According to reports at the time, a trove of lewd photographs of children was found in the safe at the property.

Court papers said that alongside photos were compact discs with handwritten labels including: “‘Young [Name] + [Name],’ ‘Misc nudes 1,’ and ‘Girl pics nude.”

There was also a passport from a foreign country with a picture of Epstein under another name.

The mansion had 40 rooms and Ms Maguire testified on Monday that it took about 12 hours for her team to fully search.


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Did this get covered in the trial?
« Reply #165 on: December 28, 2021, 04:22:02 PM »
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-steven-hoffenberg-intelligence-agencies-spy-1197708/

Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy?
The notorious financier pedophile told exaggerated stories of his time in intelligence circles — but some of those stories may have been, at least partially, true

By VICKY WARD

NEW YORK, NY - JUNE 13: Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell attend Batman Forever/R. McDonald Event on June 13, 1995 in New York City. (Photo by Patrick McMullan via Getty Images)NEW YORK, NY - JUNE 13: Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell attend Batman Forever/R. McDonald Event on June 13, 1995 in New York City. (Photo by Patrick McMullan via Getty Images)
Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell attend Batman Forever/R. McDonald Event on June 13, 1995 in New York City.

Patrick McMullan/Getty Images

Back in 2002, when I was reporting on Jeffrey Epstein’s finances for Vanity Fair magazine, he was not a household name. During that time, I paid a visit to the Federal Medical Center, Devens in Devens, Massachusetts, to meet with an inmate, one Steven Hoffenberg.

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We sat in a little room near a recreation area, Hoffenberg dressed in the requisite orange jumpsuit, while I, several months pregnant with twins, was dressed per prison requirements: as shapelessly as possible.

It was an absolutely intriguing meeting.

Hoffenberg was serving 18 years in prison for committing a $450 million Ponzi scheme. In the 1980s, he’d been running Towers Financial, a debt collection and reinsurance business, and had worked alongside Epstein, who was a paid consultant. Hoffenberg told me that Epstein had plans to turn Towers into a global colossus — through illegal means.

But Hoffenberg was so transfixed by Epstein and his ideas that he had even paid the rent for Epstein’s office space. (Now, he says, he was “stupid” and greedy for doing so.)

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Hoffenberg told me with a sad grin that he represented a problem for Epstein because while they were working together, Epstein had confided in him as to how, exactly, he made a career out of conning people and institutions — not least because the idea was that they’d do it together.

Hoffenberg said that Epstein had a term for the perfect execution of the grift. He called it “playing the box,” which meant that he ensured that even if his crime was uncovered, the victim would be unable to do anything about it, either because of social embarrassment or because the money was tucked away in a place where they couldn’t either find it or get it.

(What Hoffenberg had failed to realize, he told me, is that Epstein would con him. Epstein would take $100 million of Towers money, move it offshore, and meanwhile cooperate with U.S. prosecutors against Hoffenberg, who was unable to do anything about this because he’d pleaded guilty, which meant there was no trial — and therefore no discovery.)

I can’t prove all of Hoffenberg’s claims — but some of them are accurate.

I have discovered, for example, that Epstein certainly did secretly cooperate against Hoffenberg and gave at least three interviews to prosecutors, and that had the case gone to trial, a source with knowledge says it would have likely turned out far worse for Epstein than for Hoffenberg.

Hoffenberg also knew something else Epstein wanted hidden, according to Hoffenberg: He claimed that Epstein moved in intelligence circles.

The Hoffenberg-Epstein relationship was not something Epstein, then pitching himself to Vanity Fair as a money-manager extraordinaire for billionaires only, had volunteered to me.

So when I gingerly raised Hoffenberg to Epstein, and mentioned I had documentation showing that the two were linked, the financier turned really nasty.

He maintained he hardly knew Hoffenberg, he’d just consulted briefly on a couple of deals, that he’d not been involved in any prosecution of Hoffenberg and that if I wrote any different, things would turn out badly for me. Here is exactly what he said:

“If there’s any implication of wrong doing, I will take legal action against you personally. I’m telling you so you understand. I will be as harsh as I possibly can personally … not for the magazine, but you, because I had this discussion with you. This relationship is with you.… You shouldn’t risk your future for a job.”

Now, Epstein’s “sensitivity” regarding Hoffenberg was equal to his sensitivity on what he called “the girls.”

He went berserk if you mentioned either subject.

In hindsight, one has to wonder if Hoffenberg presented an equally big problem as “the girls” would. Hoffenberg told me that in the 1980s, after Epstein left Bear Sterns in ignominious circumstances, Epstein was trained in moving money off-shore and that a mentor of Epstein’s was someone Hoffenberg knew: a British defense contractor, who died in 2011, named Douglas Leese.

Hoffenberg claimed that Leese was an arms dealer. (Leese’s son Julian says that is not true.) But the U.K. parliamentary record does mention Leese in reference to the El Yammamah arms deal of the early 1980s.

I remember distinctly that in our first meeting Hoffenberg told me that Leese was pivotal in understanding Jeffrey’s MO, because Leese had introduced him not only to aristocratic Europeans (who Epstein subsequently fleeced) but to all sorts of people in the arms business — including the late Turkish-born businessman Adnan Kashoggi — and, allegedly, the late media mogul Robert Maxwell.

Back in 2002 I didn’t pay much attention to this.

This was because Epstein breezily threw me off.

First, Epstein told me he’d never met Maxwell. And I asked him twice if he knew Leese, whom I had never heard of, and Epstein said no. The second time, he elaborated:

“Douglas Leese … I think he was the father of somebody I knew … I think his son was friendly with Ferranti, that’s where that whole crowd comes in that you asked me about a long time ago. I think his name was Nicholas … it was sort of that 66th Street building, I think they might have all lived there.”

So, I forgot about Leese. And I didn’t bother to pursue the notion that Epstein had known Maxwell.

But all these years later, Leese’s name popped up again in my new reporting for a podcast and a documentary series about Maxwell’s daughter Ghislaine, who is currently awaiting trial on charges of helping Epstein in his alleged sex-trafficking operations of minors. (She has denied all charges.)

First, I found a lawsuit filed by Leese in Florida, in which he asserted that he “was involved with various highly confidential business enterprises including business in the United States, some of which involved governmentally- involved or other highly confidential business projects.”

Second, a source who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of what was discussed told me that Epstein had invited the source to join him and Leese on a private-jet trip to the Pentagon in 1981.

Even Leese’s son Julian told me that his father was a mentor of sorts to Epstein in the 1980s and was totally shocked that Epstein would have pretended not to know him.

So why Epstein’s silence on Leese?

And was his denial about knowing Robert Maxwell equally meaningless?

What about the spy stuff?

Hoffenberg told me that Epstein had said he’d worked on several projects with Robert Maxwell, including solving Maxwell’s “debt” issues. (Maxwell died in 1991, under vey strange circumstances, apparently having fallen off his yacht, the Lady Ghislaine, in the middle of the night and it was discovered in the aftermath that he’d stolen 100s of millions of dollars from the pensions of his employees.)

Epstein had also told Hoffenberg that via Maxwell and Leese he was involved in something that Hoffenberg described as “national security issues,” which he says involved “blackmail, influence trading, trading information at a level that is very serious and dangerous.”

So here’s where it gets tricky.

Four separate sources told me — on the record — that Epstein’s dealings in the arms world in the 1980s had led him to work for multiple governments, including the Israelis.

Some of these sources are more reliable than others. But the gist of the claims that you will be able to hear, and ultimately watch in a three-hour documentary series, is that Maxwell, who was himself a conduit between the Israelis and other governments during his life time, introduced Epstein to Israeli leaders, who then allegedly used Epstein as the equivalent of an old-fashioned Russian “sleeper,” someone who could be useful in an “influence campaign.”

The sources, who range from former arms dealers to former spies — and also Hoffenberg — suggest that Epstein, who lacked any sort of moral compass, decided to go one step further and compromise influential people by recording them doing things they wouldn’t want made public.

All of this is completely unprovable. And people close to Robert Maxwell say it sounds ridiculous.

But here’s what’s odd.

First, Epstein did visit Israel in 2008, with a view to moving there permanently and avoid his jail time in 2009 for the state charges he was convicted of. On his return, he told Russian model Kira Diktyar that he’d changed his mind and decided to face the music. (He didn’t mention he’d avoided a far more serious federal investigation, thanks to a cushy non-prosecution agreement.)

And once he got out of jail, in the last 10 years of his life, Epstein bragged to various people, including journalists, that he was advising a whole assortment of foreign leaders who included Vladimir Putin, Mohammed bin Zayed, Mohammed Bin Salman, various African dictators, Israel, the British — and, of course, the Americans.

He also told several of the same people that he was making a fortune out of arms, drugs, and diamonds.

He told one person, journalist Edward J. Epstein, that he knew the owner of the deep-water port of Djibouti on the horn of Africa, a smuggler’s paradise, so well that he was basically in charge of it.

Now, according to my sources in the intelligence world, this is hyperbole — but also not completely ridiculous. His name was mentioned as a middleman in both Africa and the Middle East. He was known in the intelligence world as a “hyper-fixer,” somebody who can go between different cultures and networks.

Usually these people are very silent about what they do.

And yet Epstein was not silent. He had a photo of the Saudi crown prince, MBS on the wall, and photos of Bill Gates and all the VIPS who flocked to his salons.

It’s not wholly surprising therefore that the same sources who say they know he was some sort of intelligence asset say that he became a liability — which is why, possibly, he lost any “protection” and was arrested.

A handful of people I interviewed, including former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky, maintain that this is exactly what happened to Robert Maxwell, which is why, they say, Maxwell was killed. His financial problems were about to make him vulnerable. (His death was officially said to be because of a heart attack.)

Who knows what to make of all this?

But, when I think back to 2002, when I first met Steve Hoffenberg, I do remember asking him why he thought that Epstein, normally reclusive, had raised his head above the parapet and attracted media attention by flying Bill Clinton to Africa.

Hoffenberg had smiled.

“He can’t help himself. He broke his own rule,” Hoffenberg said. “He always said he knew the only way he could get away with everything he did was to stay under the radar, but now he’s gone and blown it.”

Vicky Ward is the host of the Audible Original podcast “Chasing Ghislaine,”.

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Re: Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell
« Reply #166 on: December 28, 2021, 07:30:41 PM »
FASCINATING.

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There is a God
« Reply #167 on: December 29, 2021, 04:17:00 PM »
 :-D

https://nypost.com/2021/12/29/ghislaine-maxwell-convicted-of-sex-trafficking-victims-for-jeffrey-epstein/

now lets put this monster away for the rest of her life

and some restitution would also be fitting ......

now lets go after the people in the black book


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« Reply #168 on: December 29, 2021, 05:51:47 PM »
:-D

https://nypost.com/2021/12/29/ghislaine-maxwell-convicted-of-sex-trafficking-victims-for-jeffrey-epstein/

now lets put this monster away for the rest of her life

and some restitution would also be fitting ......

now lets go after the people in the black book

Don’t hold your breath waiting for justice.


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« Last Edit: December 30, 2021, 12:36:19 PM by Crafty_Dog »

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Re: Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell
« Reply #174 on: January 01, 2022, 08:06:17 AM »
"https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18088/dramatic-testimony-from-the-maxwell-case-will"

Alan makes a good defense for himself .  His accuser does sound like a manipulator who may be twisting the truth.   (I guess we will never know for sure)

Some of these girls were not such naive little waifs catering to much older men
who were just delighted to take advantage

But it sounds like there were 100s of them and what was it only 4 came to trial?

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Re: Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell
« Reply #175 on: January 01, 2022, 10:29:52 AM »
"https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18088/dramatic-testimony-from-the-maxwell-case-will"

Alan makes a good defense for himself .  His accuser does sound like a manipulator who may be twisting the truth.   (I guess we will never know for sure)

Some of these girls were not such naive little waifs catering to much older men
who were just delighted to take advantage

But it sounds like there were 100s of them and what was it only 4 came to trial?

Important to get the truth right in a criminal trial, and many of the these people are perhaps unreliable.  But one simple truth is that a 14 year old, anyone under 18, is legally not capable of consenting to sex with an adult.  The term is rape even if they willingly participate, and many of these guys, Bill Clinton for example, are lawyers.

Begs a simple question, why couldn't these really rich perverts [Democrats] just find really young women that are over 18, but still a third or a fourth of their own age?

And this:

[img]https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2021/12/IMG_4624.jpg?w=1023&ssl=1[img]

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sex in teenagers according to CDC
« Reply #176 on: January 01, 2022, 10:45:36 AM »
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2017/201706_NSFG.htm#:~:text=The%20report%20documented%20the%20following,teens%20had%20ever%20had%20sex.

I am not excusing it .

but this is more likely the reality.

I presume most of the sex came from under age partners as well?


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Re: sex in teenagers according to CDC
« Reply #177 on: January 01, 2022, 11:46:25 AM »
"I presume most of the sex came from under age partners as well?"


Presumably.  A friend of a tenant who hung out with his girlfriend at my property was arrested this past year.  He looked young but was mid-twenties.  She looked young, but turns out was underage.  When I had seen them, I wouldn't have guessed the age of either of them.  As I understand it, he dumped her and she retaliated by calling the police and having him arrested for multiple felonies.  Law enforcement came out and ransacked my place looking for evidence and last I heard is doing real jail or prison time.

I don't know what to think about the whole thing, but legally it's not consent.

If you're both underage, it's not really consent either, but I guess you're not presumed to know that, can't be held accountable or know who violated whom.

But old rich men sexualizing 14 year olds for money, that is pedophilia, prostitution and statutory rape.  Also bad publicity whether you are a former President, head of the Gates Foundation or a Prince.
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Re: Imagine if Alex Jones was right about a global network of predators
« Reply #179 on: January 03, 2022, 09:24:19 AM »
https://deanblundell.com/news/justin-trudeaus-best-friend-found-guilty-of-child-porn-charges-directing-world-wide-child-porn-ring/



So glad that now the case is over, all the documents the FBI seized will be public record, right?

All the documents on the Epstein death investigation will be released, right?


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FBi agent trust the lawyer of a pediphile
« Reply #182 on: January 06, 2022, 07:50:55 AM »
 :roll:

From Ann Coulter's article in GM's post above

"This was testified to by Special Agent Maguire. That’s the last time I trust the lawyer of a pedophile! Boy, is my face red! Darn it! … Oh well, what are you going to do?"

Apparently he did not see the movie Insomnia which has a scene with Detective Dormer admits to someone he placed blood at a crime scene to set up a child rapist murderer, and explains why he felt he had to do it:  people who sit on juries have never looked into the face of a child murderer, I HAVE.

That line haunted me.  It reminds me of all the thieves who robbed us.
And all the singers who claim they are song writers which they are not .
watching John Rich Trace Adkins and so many more sitting there making claims that they know are not true..... and the dumb ass dupes who believe them....

And Now this line from the FBI agent who admits he trusted a lawyer for a pediphile........

Welcome to DC
the supposed city of justice .....

what a farce .



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Re: Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell
« Reply #185 on: January 14, 2022, 05:53:03 AM »
You beat me to it GM

Coulter does it again

When she lies out the whole sequence of events one can only conclude

she is right - Epstein and now Maxwell - crimes - swept under the rug

and the great arbiters of truth - them MSM - is totally silent

since of course , our great justice works!

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The predator previously known as “Prince”
« Reply #186 on: January 14, 2022, 10:23:22 AM »
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/397377.php

I wonder if he still can’t sweat.

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Re: Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell
« Reply #187 on: January 17, 2022, 11:30:48 AM »
"The predator formerly known as Prince"-- very witty!  OTOH, she sure looks happy in that picture to have had some royal cock in her pussy.

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Well, this is intriguing , , ,

https://nypost.com/2022/01/15/ghislaine-maxwell-will-no-longer-fight-to-keep-names-of-8-john-does-secret/

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Re: Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell
« Reply #188 on: January 17, 2022, 02:45:49 PM »
"The predator formerly known as Prince"-- very witty!  OTOH, she sure looks happy in that picture to have had some royal cock in her pussy.

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Well, this is intriguing , , ,

https://nypost.com/2022/01/15/ghislaine-maxwell-will-no-longer-fight-to-keep-names-of-8-john-does-secret/

Why would a Prince, worth millions and globally famous needs Epstein's help?



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"I did not have sex with underage girls"
« Reply #191 on: January 19, 2022, 11:27:08 AM »

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another Esptein related death
« Reply #192 on: February 19, 2022, 08:36:20 AM »
ahem

another hanging of course will be declared suicide

https://nypost.com/2022/02/19/french-model-agent-pal-of-jeffrey-epstein-found-hanged-in-prison-cell/

The Prince pays his way out of facing the music in court
and others turn up dead

and Maxwell
continues her code of silence (it seems) ....




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Re: another Esptein related death
« Reply #193 on: February 19, 2022, 05:41:40 PM »
ahem

another hanging of course will be declared suicide

https://nypost.com/2022/02/19/french-model-agent-pal-of-jeffrey-epstein-found-hanged-in-prison-cell/

The Prince pays his way out of facing the music in court
and others turn up dead

and Maxwell
continues her code of silence (it seems) ....

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7a2ec6afbbb0ecb98f6999c7c3946025aa478549b101e8fa6768ce0631ea0de1.png



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OMG cameras not working
« Reply #195 on: February 20, 2022, 08:47:22 AM »


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Ghrisley gets off on technicality
« Reply #197 on: March 09, 2022, 01:42:57 PM »

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Re: Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell
« Reply #198 on: March 09, 2022, 04:27:02 PM »
I'm confused.

How does this article purport to know what the judge "will" do?