Author Topic: 2024 (Read 175485 times)

ccp · « **on:** January 12, 2020, 04:30:01 PM »

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/01/03/2024-presidential-election-candidates-091055

My prediction
the world's greatest narcissist will pick for VP for '20:

His son Donald Trump Jr.

G M · « **Reply #1 on:** January 12, 2020, 04:34:58 PM »

I hate political dynasties. Having said that, I really like Don Jr.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-jr-instagram-ar15-weapon-rifle-hillary-clinton-behind-bars/

Quote from: ccp on January 12, 2020, 04:30:01 PM

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/01/03/2024-presidential-election-candidates-091055

My prediction
the world's greatest narcissist will pick for VP for '20:

His son Donald Trump Jr.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2020, 06:29:29 PM »

Too much of a princeling. Where's the life experience?

DougMacG · « **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2020, 04:53:42 AM »

Quote from: ccp on January 12, 2020, 04:30:01 PM

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/01/03/2024-presidential-election-candidates-091055

My prediction
the world's greatest narcissist will pick for VP for '20:

His son Donald Trump Jr.

Fair enough or maybe Jared if Trump trusts him more, and I agree he is tempted to shape that right now - but he will stay with Pence in 2020 unless there is something not right between them that we don't know. From what I can see, Pence has done everything asked of him beyond what could have been hoped when he was chosen.

At conservative site Instapundit they preface every piece of good polling news with "Don't get cocky". Trump has a chance I think to win 5-10 points higher than his general public approval numbers which would be a very decisive victory. He also has every opportunity to blow this at every turn between now and November. Don't screw with what is right and working. Don't create new and unnecessary distractions.

Except for activist LGBTQ hatred of Pence's Christianity, Pence is non-controversial, highly competent, fully experienced, consistently conservative, loyal to a fault, loaded with integrity and ready to step up and serve on a moment's notice. Also he is fully vetted. Not a decision you second guess with new, added risk.

The job at hand is to win THIS election. Don Jr doesn't need a new high title to carry campaign star power with him everywhere he goes. His role is more mystic without a new title. He can run in 2024 still as an outsider, tied to this administration, without VP status.

ccp · « **Reply #4 on:** January 13, 2020, 07:54:49 AM »

as main issue to vote for President:

"Except for activist LGBTQ hatred of Pence's Christianity, Pence is non-controversial, "

i would add the pro abortion crowd

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #5 on:** January 13, 2020, 10:00:06 AM »

Nikki Haley is working hard right now for 2024. She is well positioned.

DougMacG · « **Reply #6 on:** January 13, 2020, 12:41:23 PM »

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on January 13, 2020, 10:00:06 AM

Nikki Haley is working hard right now for 2024. She is well positioned.

I agree. From what I know, at this point she is my favorite.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #7 on:** January 13, 2020, 01:23:48 PM »

Much to like there, but keep in mind she is something of a neocon Bushie.

G M · « **Reply #8 on:** January 13, 2020, 04:08:23 PM »

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on January 13, 2020, 01:23:48 PM

Much to like there, but keep in mind she is something of a neocon Bushie.

We need someone who will burn the deep state down.

The status quo is unacceptable.

DougMacG · « **Reply #9 on:** January 14, 2020, 07:08:50 AM »

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on January 13, 2020, 01:23:48 PM

Much to like there, but keep in mind she is something of a neocon Bushie.

Walter Russell Mead calls the Trump method Jacksonian. Teddy R: carry a big stick. For Reagan, it was peace through strength. No missiles fired bringing down the USSR. The Trump method is Bellicose Isolationism. Nikki Haley was part of that. She stood strong at key moments and hasn't wavered since.

It was weasels like Powell who said if you break, you have to fix it, meaning nation building after the air war and losing 3000+ Americans.

Before 2024 we can hear more about her economic policy but as I understand it, it is somewhere near mine.

By 2024, the Republican establishment is a generation out of power.

Maybe her bumper sticker will be, speak softly but purge the deep state of all its power and position. There is some wishful thinking needed to like a candidate before you see them govern.

P.S. I like Pence too. Rubio has changed. I see Cruz as unelectable.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #10 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:15:43 AM »

How has Rubio changed in your opinion?

DougMacG · « **Reply #11 on:** January 14, 2020, 12:31:47 PM »

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on January 14, 2020, 10:15:43 AM

How has Rubio changed in your opinion?

To be fair, it might be, how has my perception of him changed?

1. In that exchange you mentioned with Chris Christie, he choked. Before that he was the best debater in the field.

2. He threatened to hold up the entire tax reform bill for the provision he wanted. The provision he wanted in my opinion violated a principle he had previously articulated.

3. I don't know what to think about his new hyphenated capitalism movement. To me. Freedom doesn't need to be hyphenated.

DougMacG · « **Reply #12 on:** November 10, 2020, 06:48:58 PM »

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on January 13, 2020, 10:00:06 AM

Nikki Haley is working hard right now for 2024. She is well positioned.

My votes right now, yes for Pence, yes for Haley. I would like to add the name Mike Pompeo. He is next in the R line of succession to VP Pence at the moment. Sharp guy (understatement), plain spoken. Funny quote today as the votes in key states lag, he thinks the transition will go just fine - to a second Trump administration. He has a record in the House, not just foreign policy creds.

G M · « **Reply #13 on:** November 10, 2020, 06:54:24 PM »

Quote from: DougMacG on November 10, 2020, 06:48:58 PM

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on January 13, 2020, 10:00:06 AM
Nikki Haley is working hard right now for 2024. She is well positioned.

My votes right now, yes for Pence, yes for Haley. I would like to add the name Mike Pompeo. He is next in the R line of succession to VP Pence at the moment. Sharp guy (understatement), plain spoken. Funny quote today as the votes in key states lag, he thinks the transition will go just fine - to a second Trump administration. He has a record in the House, not just foreign policy creds.

You think there will be voting in 2024? Or that it will matter?

Optimist.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #14 on:** November 10, 2020, 09:05:05 PM »

Assuming honest elections for the purpose of this conversation, Pompeo would make a very good president IMHO. Don't know that he has the political chops to get there, including the necessary tolerance of stupidity.

G M · « **Reply #15 on:** November 10, 2020, 09:41:48 PM »

Old and busted: The electoral college decides who is president.

Hot and fresh: A handful of corrupt dem cities decide who is president.

DougMacG · « **Reply #16 on:** November 13, 2020, 12:26:40 AM »

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/what-a-ridiculous-message-kristi-noem-trashes-excerpt-from-obamas-new-memoir

ccp · « **Reply #17 on:** November 13, 2020, 04:37:22 AM »

yes
she is articulate and attractive !

Obama coming out with his book now...

with "honest" introspection - I assume it is the roadmap

he is sending to his team that are now in power on how to shove his shit down the countries throat but without his own perceived "mistakes"

he doesn't care that half the country or more hates him and his transformative vision he has in store for us.

he knows what is best for us and the world

and anyone who stands in the way - scream racism!

DougMacG · « **Reply #18 on:** January 06, 2021, 08:21:42 AM »

Four names put forward by Hugh Hewitt this morning, with the caveat that so much can change:

Mike Pompeo

Ron DeSantis

Tom Cotton

Mike Pence
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I would add Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio, and no doubt Ted Cruz still wants it.

But please, not an overcrowded field this time. And stop the infighting! Just make your case.

G M · « **Reply #19 on:** January 06, 2021, 08:30:16 AM »

Yes. We are going to VOTE HARDER! Because the mega-amnesty and blatant electoral fraud won't be factors then?

Quote from: DougMacG on January 06, 2021, 08:21:42 AM

Four names put forward by Hugh Hewitt this morning, with the caveat that so much can change:

Mike Pompeo

Ron DeSantis

Tom Cotton

Mike Pence
--------------
I would add Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio, and no doubt Ted Cruz still wants it.

But please, not an overcrowded field this time. And stop the infighting! Just make your case.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #20 on:** January 06, 2021, 02:00:25 PM »

Should Hawley be on the list"?

G M · « **Reply #21 on:** January 06, 2021, 02:21:20 PM »

Has Fox News called the 2024 election for the dems yet?

Quote from: G M on January 06, 2021, 08:30:16 AM

Yes. We are going to VOTE HARDER! Because the mega-amnesty and blatant electoral fraud won't be factors then?

Quote from: DougMacG on January 06, 2021, 08:21:42 AM
Four names put forward by Hugh Hewitt this morning, with the caveat that so much can change:

Mike Pompeo

Ron DeSantis

Tom Cotton

Mike Pence
--------------
I would add Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio, and no doubt Ted Cruz still wants it.

But please, not an overcrowded field this time. And stop the infighting! Just make your case.

ccp · « **Reply #22 on:** January 06, 2021, 02:37:50 PM »

"Has Fox News called the 2024 election for the dems yet?"

to my knowledge only Juan Williams and Chris Wallace so far

ppulatie · « **Reply #23 on:** January 06, 2021, 09:41:21 PM »

Have no idea who can pick up the reins of leadership now and start a new party. GOP is totally finished now. Just like the Whigs.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #24 on:** January 07, 2021, 04:32:44 AM »

Hard not to reach a similar conclusion for America.

DougMacG · « **Reply #25 on:** January 07, 2021, 07:26:15 AM »

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on January 06, 2021, 02:00:25 PM

Should Hawley be on the list"?

Yes.

DougMacG · « **Reply #26 on:** January 07, 2021, 07:32:32 AM »

How do we get the positives of Trump without the negatives?

It isn't just who is best giving positions on issues when asked. It has to be someone who can break through the noise and censorship with a compelling message.

G M · « **Reply #27 on:** January 07, 2021, 08:26:53 AM »

Quote from: DougMacG on January 07, 2021, 07:32:32 AM

How do we get the positives of Trump without the negatives?

It isn't just who is best giving positions on issues when asked. It has to be someone who can break through the noise and censorship with a compelling message.

To do what? Vote?

ccp · « **Reply #28 on:** January 26, 2021, 08:19:50 PM »

he proved to be a great warrior for our side

for '24

ccp · « **Reply #29 on:** January 31, 2021, 10:42:51 AM »

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-expects-impeachment-trial-badge-honor-rethinks-2024-run-1564677

caution source is Newsweek .

I AM very concerned Trump will drag us to defeat in '24.
It is all about him , not the cause.
Of course it may not matter at all
if SCOTUS Senate Voting laws get changed to make Dem Party the de facto controlling entity in the US for a generation .

I cannot imagine he would not run
It is not enough for him to sit on sidelines and support others
it HAS to be with him front and center .

ccp · « **Reply #30 on:** February 01, 2021, 05:19:16 AM »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-pence-reportedly-making-plans-142720595.html

so Pence , Halley so far......

and of course Trump

who would we vote for ?

ccp · « **Reply #31 on:** February 21, 2021, 06:16:09 AM »

I hope he doesn't think he is a serious candidate:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-hits-democrat-193557095.html

Mike Pompeo so far I like
I don't know if he would be good campaigner

and of course the Left will make him out to be old white male supremacist

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #32 on:** February 21, 2021, 01:04:21 PM »

Pompeo would make an awesome president on the merits, but don't know if he has the chops for the thuggery of the political game, race baiting etc

ccp · « **Reply #33 on:** February 21, 2021, 03:02:14 PM »

https://populist.press/huge-news-for-trumps-party/

(me - God be with us)

G M · « **Reply #34 on:** February 21, 2021, 03:39:13 PM »

https://i.imgur.com/YatyjPw.png

DougMacG · « **Reply #35 on:** March 11, 2021, 04:14:50 PM »

This is taken from a 538 (liberal) list. It's partly wrong in names and order, but mostly covers it. Kamala versus one of these.
Donald Trump
Ted Cruz
Ron DeSantis
Nikki Haley
Mike Pence
Donald Trump Jr.
Kristi Noem
Josh Hawley
Tim Scott
Tucker Carlson
Mike Pompeo
Greg Abbott
Tom Cotton
Ivanka Trump
Marco Rubio

G M · « **Reply #36 on:** March 11, 2021, 04:17:10 PM »

Boy! I sure hope the dems don't cheat this time!

Quote from: DougMacG on March 11, 2021, 04:14:50 PM

This is taken from a 538 (liberal) list. It's partly wrong in names and order, but mostly covers it. Kamala versus one of these.
Donald Trump
Ted Cruz
Ron DeSantis
Nikki Haley
Mike Pence
Donald Trump Jr.
Kristi Noem
Josh Hawley
Tim Scott
Tucker Carlson
Mike Pompeo
Greg Abbott
Tom Cotton
Ivanka Trump
Marco Rubio

ccp · « **Reply #37 on:** March 11, 2021, 04:31:37 PM »

" Tucker Carlson "

libs are terrified of him ! : ))

DougMacG · « **Reply #38 on:** March 12, 2021, 08:54:01 AM »

Quote from: G M on March 11, 2021, 04:17:10 PM

Boy! I sure hope the dems don't cheat this time!

If they do, I hope that Project Veritas or some other whistle blowers are there to stop or bust them.

Channeling John Belushi, did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

G M · « **Reply #39 on:** March 12, 2021, 01:37:37 PM »

Quote from: DougMacG on March 12, 2021, 08:54:01 AM

Quote from: G M on March 11, 2021, 04:17:10 PM
Boy! I sure hope the dems don't cheat this time!

If they do, I hope that Project Veritas or some other whistle blowers are there to stop or bust them.

Channeling John Belushi, did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

There is a ton of videos/evidence of electoral/vote fraud in 2020. Which has resulted in...

ccp · « **Reply #40 on:** March 12, 2021, 01:48:59 PM »

"There is a ton of videos/evidence of electoral/vote fraud in 2020. Which has resulted in..."

RIGHT! lots of frustration
for more than half the country.

G M · « **Reply #41 on:** March 12, 2021, 02:05:45 PM »

Quote from: ccp on March 12, 2021, 01:48:59 PM

"There is a ton of videos/evidence of electoral/vote fraud in 2020. Which has resulted in..."

RIGHT! lots of frustration
for more than half the country.

Which has resulted in open borders, a ring of steel around DC and a weaponized fedgov targeting us.

MUST! VOTE! HARDER!

DougMacG · « **Reply #42 on:** March 13, 2021, 06:00:25 AM »

Quote from: ccp on March 12, 2021, 01:48:59 PM

"There is a ton of videos/evidence of electoral/vote fraud in 2020. Which has resulted in..."

RIGHT! lots of frustration
for more than half the country.

I really don't believe most of the other half want what's coming either.

ccp · « **Reply #43 on:** March 13, 2021, 08:45:43 AM »

Doug wrote:
"I really don't believe most of the other half want what's coming either."

I have been wondering about this too

but

who is going to refuse "free money"

"free" college
"free" housing
debt forgiveness
reparations
checks from the US Treasury

"free" child support
"free" health care
"fairness"
"equality"
"blame the rich"
"wealth transfer"

the buzz phrases that put a glow into those with grievances

on the street we call it bribery

ccp · « **Reply #44 on:** March 25, 2021, 02:01:05 PM »

Joe Biden

for '24

hot off the press

ccp · « **Reply #45 on:** April 23, 2021, 09:52:40 AM »

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2021/04/21/chris-christie-weighs-2024-presidential-run-whether-trump-is-in-or-not-n1441681

Approval in NJ
went from 80 % to 14 % lowest in NJ history :

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-chris-christie-became-least-popular-governor-in-new-jersey-history-2018-1

He is NOT what GOP needs

G M · « **Reply #46 on:** April 23, 2021, 10:04:40 AM »

I'm holding out for JEB!

"You should have clapped!"

Quote from: ccp on April 23, 2021, 09:52:40 AM

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2021/04/21/chris-christie-weighs-2024-presidential-run-whether-trump-is-in-or-not-n1441681

Approval in NJ
went from 80 % to 14 % lowest in NJ history :

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-chris-christie-became-least-popular-governor-in-new-jersey-history-2018-1

He is NOT what GOP needs

ccp · « **Reply #47 on:** May 06, 2021, 09:12:23 AM »

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/05/06/clean-house-in-2025-n2588969

I agree
it must NOT be Trump
though he doesn't know it yet

DeSantis needs to walk the tightrope
play up to T now but then when it is time
he run first - NOT second fiddle to the psychotic egotist

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #48 on:** May 06, 2021, 07:17:33 PM »

Some solid points in that piece.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #49 on:** June 21, 2021, 06:28:10 AM »

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ron-desantis-straw-poll-conservative-summit/2021/06/20/id/1025748/

News:

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