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FO: Section 702
« Reply #101 on: April 10, 2024, 11:12:43 AM »
(2) HOUSE MOVING TO PASS 702 WITH LAWMAKER PRIVACY CUTOUT: According to Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Section 702 reauthorization bill Congress is planning to pass by 19 April includes notification and consent requirements for any database searches that include personal information of a member of Congress.

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) said he will oppose a House rule vote on the bill, stopping a floor vote.

Why It Matters: This cutout is very likely intended to secure votes to pass this version of the Section 702 reauthorization bill. There is strong bipartisan support for a version of the bill that included a warrant requirement for FBI searches that include American citizens after it was discovered that the FBI conducted millions of possibly illegal searches that included at least one member of Congress. However, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) chose not to bring that version of the bill to the Rules Committee. – R.C.

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Senate Votes Down FISA
« Reply #102 on: April 11, 2024, 04:00:56 PM »

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Re: My congressman, government surveillance
« Reply #104 on: April 15, 2024, 10:14:34 AM »
https://danbishop.house.gov/media/press-releases/bishop-stands-against-expansion-warrantless-surveillance

This is an issue where my own view has flipped perhaps more so than on any other.  In the early 2000s I believed the agencies needed every possible tool to stop terrorism. Investigating (suicidal attacks) after they happen isn't good enough.  And there was no real reason to believe our trusted agencies would misuse this potentially excessive power.

Now I fear the agencies more than I fear the terrorists.  The government agencies are not using the tools they already have to protect us, cf border wall, law enforcement, courts, prisons, foreign intelligence.

The agencies (deep state) have tragically proven themselves untrustworthy, often an enemy of the people. The list of evidence to support that is very long. IRS targeting, 'Russian collusion", false FISA warrants, lying to Congress, eavesdropping and so on. They have been personally and politically motivated at the highest levels, and conspiratorial, and our security is the victim. "Emergency" powers must end.  Amend the constitution if you want more federal power.
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previous post reminds me of this quote
« Reply #105 on: April 15, 2024, 11:17:04 AM »
The quote "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely"12is attributed to Lord Acton, a British historian and politician13. He wrote this remark in a letter to Bishop Mandell in 188713. He also added that "Great men are almost always bad men"423. The quote implies that power has a corrupting influence on those who wield it, and that the more power one has, the more likely one is to abuse it

Can anyone imagine if the Dems finish the job seizing full power and making us into one party country?

(their obvious goal)

The system was designed so the media would be an additional check on gov. power but that no longer exists for 90 % of the media .

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Re: The Surveillance/Omnipotent State
« Reply #106 on: April 16, 2024, 06:41:21 AM »
Doug:

We have walked the same path here.

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FO: House passes FISA renewal without warrant reform
« Reply #107 on: April 16, 2024, 04:27:14 PM »
(1) HOUSE PASSES FISA RENEWAL WITHOUT WARRANT REFORM: The House passed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Section 702 renewal bill in a 273-147 vote on Friday, 12 April.

The amendment to add a warrant requirement for Section 702 database searches of American citizens’ data was defeated in a 212-212 vote after House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) voted to break the tie.

“I will do everything in my power to stop this bill” when it reaches the senate, Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) said. Wyden added, “The House bill represents one of the most dramatic and terrifying expansions of government surveillance authority in history.”

Why It Matters: Republican lawmakers who voted against the warrant reform amendment argue that a warrant requirement would undermine national security by slowing the process of collecting and analyzing data on foreign threats. However, the warrant requirement would have only applied to Section 702 database searches targeting Americans. The bill now moves to the Senate, which is likely to face bipartisan opposition ahead of the Friday deadline when Section 702 authorities lapse. – R.C.

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WSJ: The 4th is not in jeopardy
« Reply #108 on: April 17, 2024, 08:33:57 AM »

The Fourth Amendment Isn’t in Jeopardy
A bill headed for a House vote would harm U.S. intelligence and law enforcement with little impact on privacy.
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April 16, 2024 5:34 pm ET



There is no shortage of bad ideas in Congress, and too many have a chance to become law these days. An example is the Fourth Amendment Is Not For Sale Act, which would prohibit the U.S. government from buying digital information that would remain available to the likes of China and Russia.

The bill, scheduled for a House vote on Wednesday, would ban the government from buying information on Americans from data brokers. This would include many things in the cloud of digital exhaust most Americans leave behind online, from information on the websites they visit to credit-card information, health information and political opinions.

Our libertarian friends fret that letting the government buy data infringes on the Fourth Amendment’s guarantee against unreasonable searches. But the Supreme Court held in U.S. v Miller (1976) that “a person has no legitimate expectation of privacy in information he voluntarily turns over to third parties.” The Court updated Fourth Amendment law on tracking cellphone location data in Carpenter v. U.S. (2018), but the Not For Sale Act goes much further.

The Justice Department says the bill, sponsored by Rep. Warren Davidson (R., Ohio), would limit the ability of U.S. law enforcement to seek information online that often helps solve federal crimes, including hacks and other malicious digital acts. The bill also bans the purchase of records on Americans’ location information, a change that Justice says would hinder the ability to track missing children, hunt fugitives and investigate criminal networks.

The bill would force U.S. intelligence officials to avoid data that could include information on an American. That’s a burden on tools the Defense Department uses to protect foreign military bases and troops abroad.

In a letter to Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan and ranking Democrat Jerrold Nadler in December 2023, the Fraternal Order of Police wrote that banning the use of digital information would end law enforcement’s access to “tools that generate leads into crucial and often complex cases.” The National Sheriffs Association says the proposal “empowers the cartels.”

The bill’s co-sponsors include voices on the extremes of both parties, including Rep. Andy Biggs (R., Ariz.) and Democrats Pramila Jayapal (D., Wash.) and Mr. Nadler. Let’s hope the sensible center prevails on this one.

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Re: The Surveillance/Omnipotent State
« Reply #109 on: April 17, 2024, 09:24:47 AM »
https://cointelegraph.com/news/nsa-days-from-taking-over-internet-whistleblower-edward-snowden

A very savvy tech friend responds:

"No. Also Snowden lives in a house paid for by Putin and has security from Putin.  He is guy responsible for maybe 200 cia deaths from the documents he stole and then passed to China/Russia which led to multiple networks being revealed and the people killed.  So I always take any article like this quoting him with a big piece of kosher salt."

That said the part about seizing servers etc seems both plausible and frightening.

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FO: FBI FISA search skullduggery
« Reply #113 on: May 09, 2024, 02:26:01 PM »


(2) FBI STEPS UP FISA SEARCHES OF AMERICANS AFTER RENEWAL: According to an FBI internal email obtained by WIRED magazine, FBI Deputy Director Paul Abbate urged FBI employees to “continue to look for ways to appropriately use US person queries to advance the mission.”

Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) said the email “seems to show that the FBI is actively pushing for more surveillance of Americans, not out of necessity but as a default,” and the email “directly contradicts earlier assertions from the FBI during the debate over Section 702’s reauthorization.”

Why It Matters: The FBI said FISA database searches of Americans’ data have decreased. However, part of that decrease is a redefinition of what counts as a search for American data, and the true number of searches that may go beyond newly imposed guidelines is not publicized by the Justice Department. Language in the renewal bill clearly expanded the types of companies that could be compelled to turn over or obtain Americans’ communications for FISA collections, but lawmakers who supported the renewal said critics were misinterpreting the vague language of the bill. Now one of those lawmakers, Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA), says the language does expand FISA and should be fixed “in the next intelligence bill.” – R.C.

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WT: DC: Helicopters and drones
« Reply #114 on: June 25, 2024, 06:57:35 AM »
Two new helicopters, nimble drones boost air support for police

Chief: Tech for ‘tactical operations’

BY MATT DELANEY AND LIZZY DONKER THE WASHINGTON TIMES

New helicopters with high-tech cameras and a small fleet of drones that can help with crowd control and search warrants were unveiled Monday at Metropolitan Police’s aviation outpost in Southeast.

Police Chief Pamela Smith said the department swapped out its old pair of helicopters for two new ones that are more agile and fuel-efficient and can upload highresolution photos to MPD’s massive surveillance hub, the Real Time Crime Center.

The department’s five weaponless drones can be used to help monitor large protests in the District and investigate suspicious items from a safe distance.

But the chief made clear that the drones — while able to assist with everything from barricade situations and traffic accidents to searching for missing persons and even joining some pursuits — will not become a part of everyday policing in the city.

“We’re utilizing our drones for tactical operations only,” Chief Smith said. “That means that they will not be used for patrol operations.”

Chief Smith said the drones will only be used upon request. Officers on the street will have to ask their watch commander for a drone deployment, and the commander will then need to get clearance from the MPD’s chief of the Homeland Security Bureau.

Chief Smith said the drones will not actively record people outside a crime scene and won’t use facial recognition technology.

Officers will have to complete preflight and postflight accountability checklists on drone missions, the chief said. MPD’s webpage for the drones said the aircraft can’t be launched to record someone based on their: race, sex, religion, nationality, age, sexual orientation or personal appearance.

But she said drones will be key in picking out any criminal agitators taking part in protests since the airborne unit canidentify and track a suspect quicker than officers on the ground trying to navigate through a crowd.

A demonstration Monday had a police drone zoom in on a garbage can over 100 yards away and still maintain high image quality.

“When that peaceful protest turns into an element of crime, we can now utilize the drone to be able to [get] eyes-in-the-sky [and] zero down on what’s happening,” the chief said, while emphasizing that the devices aren’t meant to infringe on First Amendment rights. “We now have the technology to be able to get in here and see what’s happening — and it also keeps our officers safe.”

Police said the helicopters will still fly under the callsigns Falcon 1 and Falcon 2, but are now Airbus H-125s instead of the old AS 350 B3s.

The new choppers have their own augmented reality mapping system that lets pilot crews lock onto specific cars or buildings. The choppers are key in tracking carjacking and homicide suspects who are trying to evade squad cars on the ground.

Police data said the helicopters assisted in 194 arrests and responded to over 1,500 calls last year.

The new air units come as violent crime is down 27% year-overyear in the District, according to police. Homicides are down 22%, robberies are down 31% and carjackings are down 44% through that same time period.

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Dancing w/ the DNC
« Reply #115 on: August 28, 2024, 01:39:00 PM »
Reposted here per our esteemed Global Moderator:

Another interesting exercise in cellphone geofenced data interpretation. Here DNC convention protestor are tracked from the streets of Chicago to their home roosts:

https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1828665087445594290

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Re: The Surveillance/Omnipotent State
« Reply #116 on: August 28, 2024, 06:32:01 PM »
I have some serious high tech friends who have me looking like a Jewish Don King over the capabilities of geofencing.

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Re: The Surveillance/Omnipotent State
« Reply #117 on: August 29, 2024, 05:42:15 AM »
I have some serious high tech friends who have me looking like a Jewish Don King over the capabilities of geofencing.


Your metaphor resists analysis....

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Re: The Surveillance/Omnipotent State
« Reply #118 on: August 30, 2024, 01:47:14 AM »
 :-D :-D :-D

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Spy agencies protecting their own tuckuses rather then the will of the citizens
« Reply #121 on: September 08, 2024, 11:03:31 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/u-s-spy-agencies-really-worried-about-second-trump-term-wsj/ar-AA1qcADf?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=508b218712034111b6e068352673a001&ei=46

officials must be held accountable to "we the people"  not the DC elites and insiders or one party.

talk about threat to D!

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Re: The Surveillance/Omnipotent State
« Reply #122 on: September 09, 2024, 08:13:48 AM »
America hangs in the balance this election.

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