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Crafty_Dog

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Crime and punishment
« on: December 09, 2021, 01:43:35 PM »
The thread for this is now on a different forum so starting it afresh here:


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NY DA will stop enforcing the law
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2022, 10:33:21 AM »
https://www.newsmax.com/us/manhattan-da-alvin-bragg-crime/2022/01/05/id/1051113/

I don't understand how a DA can simply and unilaterally decide not to enforce laws on the books

Is he connected to the gangs?




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Re: NY DA will stop enforcing the law
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2022, 10:52:43 AM »
https://www.newsmax.com/us/manhattan-da-alvin-bragg-crime/2022/01/05/id/1051113/

I don't understand how a DA can simply and unilaterally decide not to enforce laws on the books

Is he connected to the gangs?

If he is a dem, then the answer is yes. The people of NYFC voted for this, they deserve it good and hard!


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crime and NO punishment
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2022, 12:21:11 PM »
https://nypost.com/2022/01/08/alvin-bragg-underplayed-shoplifting-arrest-says-nypd-sergeants-union/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Bragg

single handedly decides which laws to enforce and which not to:

https://prospect.org/justice/restorative-justice-new-york-da-alvin-bragg-interview/

where does he get this power to NOT enforce LAWs he does not like?

And when did it get decided theft is NOT important?

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Re: crime and NO punishment
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2022, 12:29:32 PM »
Typically, prosecutors have tremendous discretion in what they charge and if they do. The phenomenon of SJW prosecutors publicly announcing that they refuse to prosecute entire classes of crimes is new.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/criminal_justice/standards/ProsecutionFunctionFourthEdition/


https://nypost.com/2022/01/08/alvin-bragg-underplayed-shoplifting-arrest-says-nypd-sergeants-union/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Bragg

single handedly decides which laws to enforce and which not to:

https://prospect.org/justice/restorative-justice-new-york-da-alvin-bragg-interview/

where does he get this power to NOT enforce LAWs he does not like?

And when did it get decided theft is NOT important?

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Re: crime and NO punishment
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2022, 02:02:08 PM »
Yesterday I witnessed a shoplifting incident in Uptown Minneapolis, formerly the nice part of Minneapolis.  I was standing in the checkout wait line at a gas station where they sell food and have bakery goods.  The manager was escorting a guy out, saying "just get out of here, just get out of here".  Then he grabbed on more thing by the exit in plain view of everyone there and was out.  As the manager came back by, I said, "you're gonna prosecute him, right?"  And he said "no.  They won't do anything - and I'm not supposed to do anything either." 

I felt kind of stupid standing there waiting to pay for some measly sandwich after just being told they will do nothing about it if I just walk out the door with it.  And I waited and waited and then paid.  Others made conservative sounding comments as well in this most liberal part of this most liberal city. 

Same people offended by this and affected by it if stores close or raise prices vote for this crap, or at least voted for the people who govern this way.  It all seems unsustainable to me.

Wouldn't bother me as much if they were soft on landlord 'crime' as well.

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Re: crime and NO punishment
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2022, 02:07:37 PM »
Yesterday I witnessed a shoplifting incident in Uptown Minneapolis, formerly the nice part of Minneapolis.  I was standing in the checkout wait line at a gas station where they sell food and have bakery goods.  The manager was escorting a guy out, saying "just get out of here, just get out of here".  Then he grabbed on more thing by the exit in plain view of everyone there and was out.  As the manager came back by, I said, "you're gonna prosecute him, right?"  And he said "no.  They won't do anything - and I'm not supposed to do anything either." 

I felt kind of stupid standing there waiting to pay for some measly sandwich after just being told they will do nothing about it if I just walk out the door with it.  And I waited and waited and then paid.  Others made conservative sounding comments as well in this most liberal part of this most liberal city. 

Same people offended by this and affected by it if stores close or raise prices vote for this crap, or at least voted for the people who govern this way.  It all seems unsustainable to me.

Wouldn't bother me as much if they were soft on landlord 'crime' as well.

Once the Twin Cities Sharia Patrol gets going, theft will become much less common. Also immodestly dressed women and pork products.

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the police were at fault
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2022, 06:19:56 AM »

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high profile robbery Laughlin
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2022, 09:04:43 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/01/16/actress-lori-loughlins-l-a-home-robbed-of-1-million-in-jewelry/

"Police say they think a South American burglary crew pulled off the heist — the thieves apparently travel to the United States, hit locations, and then quickly leave the country, reports TMZ"

surprised police are even bothering to look into this .
I mean it is only burglary
and since when is theft a problem in the US - anymore?



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ahem in low volume voice the REVEREND AL
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2022, 10:51:08 AM »
in the way Rush would have done it

now claims we need to get this out of the front pages of newspapers

since it hurts Dems:

https://nypost.com/2022/02/09/rev-al-sharpton-calls-on-eric-adams-to-address-brazen-nyc-thefts/

cock roach is now worried about the problems he and his mob have wrought

I would like to ask him
so what should the mayor do now that we have decriminalized non violent crime?

thanks to BLM SJW etc (led by him)

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solitary confinement is only good when it is Republicans
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2022, 08:26:08 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/plea-help-quarter-century-penal-124855603.html

( I am not saying this guy should spend life in solitary however - seems too cruel)


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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2022, 10:46:07 AM »
This is too much, by quite a bit!


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co conspirator gets at most 3 y for helping deliver nuclear secrets
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2022, 08:52:17 AM »
presumable to Chinese:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/espionage-toebbe-navy-conspiracy/2022/02/18/id/1057534/

plea deal
for hard slap on wrist

what happened to hanging spies?

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sister's head bashed in
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2022, 11:37:20 PM »
But Dr Gershon Rothschild (the brother)

is a good DEMO crat till the end:

https://goodwordnews.com/subway-crime-woman-savagely-beaten-with-hammer-in-queens-robbery/

"He added that he was particularly confident in Mayor Adams’ plan to make subways safer."
“I hope the homeless outreach program will yield results in getting as much help as possible to people who need it, potentially reducing crime,” said Gerson Rothschild."

A righteous self envisioned mensch to the death I guess


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SCOTUS reinstated death penalty for Boston Bomber
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2022, 08:52:31 AM »



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Crime and punishment, the people Kamal-Ketanji want out
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2022, 01:50:27 PM »
(Shooter in Sacramento)

"Inmate Martin forcibly entered his girlfriend's residence. He located her hiding in her bedroom closet and hit her repeatedly with a closed fist on the face, head, and body, causing visible injuries. He then dragged her out of the home by her hair to an awaiting car. After he put her in the car, he assaulted her with a belt."

https://reason.com/volokh/2022/04/06/d-a-s-office-letter-that-opposed-parole-for-man-now-arrested-in-connection-with-sacramento-killings-of-six/

For more explanation, he was 'helping her' in prostitution (blame the victim), and...
... that's. how. she.  learns.

We need more empathy and understanding for the perp??

What's the hurry of liberals to get dangerous people out?  You couldn't tell he was dangerous? One vote?  Really?? How's that working out?
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NYpost video
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2022, 10:40:55 AM »
https://nypost.com/2022/04/17/lapd-shows-footage-of-woman-rammed-by-car-as-she-tries-to-flee-robbery/

send in the social workers

white supremacy the biggest threat to democracy and public safety.  :roll:

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2022, 03:47:35 PM »
PanFa plus Soros funded DA in the land of Defund the Police.

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2022, 04:41:27 PM »
" PanFa " ?

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2022, 04:52:16 PM »
" PanFa " ?

You need to catch up on the M Yon thread!

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2022, 05:02:05 PM »
you mean this:

YNTOCUOTMYT

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2022, 07:18:38 PM »
LOL :-D

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El Salvodor. gang policy
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2022, 08:25:40 AM »
https://dnyuz.com/2022/04/28/in-el-salvador-the-president-cracks-down-on-civil-liberties-and-is-beloved-for-it/

the fight against narco terror

is like Lincoln suspending habeas corpus

food for thought

Wilson would jail people who spoke out against the US involvement in WW I....


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Teenage girl to pay $150k for stabbing her rapist to death
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2022, 08:36:48 AM »
Teenage girl ordered to pay $150,000 for stabbing accused rapist to death

BY MARGERY A. BECK ASSOCIATED PRESS

A teenage human trafficking victim who was initially charged with first-degree murder after she stabbed her accused rapist to death was sentenced Tuesday in an Iowa court to five years of closely supervised probation and ordered to pay $150,000 restitution to the man’s family.

Pieper Lewis, 17, was sentenced Tuesday after having pleaded last year to involuntary manslaughter and willful injury in the June 2020 killing of Zachary Brooks, 37, of Des Moines. Both charges were punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

Polk County District Judge David M. Porter on Tuesday deferred those prison sentences, meaning that if Lewis violates any portion of her probation, she could be sent to prison to serve a 20-year term.

As for being required to pay the estate of her rapist, “this court is presented with no other option,” Judge Porter said, noting the restitution is mandatory under Iowa law that has been upheld by the Iowa Supreme Court.

Lewis was 15 when she stabbed Brooks more than 30 times in a Des Moines apartment.

Officials have said Lewis was a runaway who was seeking to escape an abusive life with her adopted mother and was sleeping in the hallways of a Des Moines apartment building when a 28-year-old man took her in before forcibly trafficking her to other men for sex.

Lewis said one of those men was Brooks and that he had raped her multiple times in the weeks before his death. She recounted being forced at knifepoint by the 28-year-old man to go with Brooks to his apartment for sex. She told officials that after Brooks had raped her yet again, she grabbed a knife from a bedside table and stabbed Brooks in a fit of rage.

Police and prosecutors have not disputed that Lewis was sexually assaulted and trafficked. But prosecutors have argued that Brooks was asleep at the time he was stabbed and not an immediate danger to Lewis.

Iowa is not among the dozens of states that have a so-called safe harbor law that gives trafficking victims at least some level of criminal immunity

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Crime but not punishment, 1000 carjackings in Philadelphia this year
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2022, 07:20:09 AM »
Along with inflation, crime is becoming the other biggest issue this year, with politicians like Fetterman (PA) and Walz(MN) rightfully getting painted as soft on crime.

"The Philadelphia Police Department says there have been 946 carjackings and attempts this year."
By Maggie Kent
Wednesday, September 7, 2022

https://6abc.com/philadelphia-carjacking-philly-police-2022-map/12209566/
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400 murders also, so far, but many inner city murders gang members killing each other.  Carjackings target the innocent.
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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2022, 07:43:56 AM »
I think I mentioned prior
that I had car stolen in Camden NJ just across the Delaware River from Phila.

in ~ 1985
then in. ~ 1986 or 7

in West Phila.

of course no one caught no one held accountable

police did essentially nothing
never spoke to me

All I could do was speak to my insurance company


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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2022, 02:33:56 PM »
why do you rob banks?

willie sutton (purportedly though I also read he denied being the one to say this)

because that is where the money is

why do police appear to stop blacks more ?

because that is where most of the crime is .


RACISSSSSSMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!
 :wink:

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2022, 10:12:45 AM »
GM

Like the posts but is there anyway to make smaller so it fits on the Firehydrant screen
so we don't have to scroll side to side to see it

 :|

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2022, 11:13:40 AM »
Ditto. 

Large or not, I already played that one forward!

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2022, 04:36:11 PM »
GM

Like the posts but is there anyway to make smaller so it fits on the Firehydrant screen
so we don't have to scroll side to side to see it

 :|

Not that I am aware of.


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Re: Most republican'ts too scared to bring this up
« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2022, 09:49:13 AM »
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/blood-hands-number-police-killed-targeted-attacks-doubled-since-democrat-sanctioned-anti-police-protests-2020/


Is this the MSM?  Posted is an accurate report of a horrible consequence that was 100% caused by Democrats with a headline that turns it against Republicans.  Good grief.
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Re: Crime and punishment, defund the police?
« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2022, 07:07:53 AM »
https://youtu.be/t9OZMBuVL5U

7 minutes of Democrats, defund the police.  Show it to the voters along with the escalation of crime.

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Our lawless, shithole cities
« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2022, 01:39:39 PM »


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Our political show trials
« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2022, 07:26:18 PM »
https://republicbrief.com/bombshell-dropped-about-jury-who-convicted-bannon/

“They’re coming for Steve Bannon. Now Steve was found guilty on two counts in July contempt of congress DC jury, who found him guilty of refusing the subpoena from the unconstitutional January 6 committee. I was in the courtroom for a large amount of that trial, and it was a joke. It was really a joke. I saw juror after juror saying they knew exactly who Steve Bannon is, and they certainly knew who Trump was, and they had no positive view of them whatsoever. And so the question becomes for all of us a question of what justice was served here by having a sham committee issuing these subpoenas and then having a sham trial with a jury where the verdict is already known,” Posobiec said, giving the shocking insider’s point of view into the courtroom that the lapdog media was ignoring.

“You’re already aware of what the jury is going to be. It’s a show trial, so they put Steve on show trial, and guess what? He got found guilty, why? Because you always get found guilty at the end of the show trial, that’s the whole point of the show trial to make it look like the regime isn’t the one doing it, but they always are

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Paul Pelosi
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2022, 01:51:48 PM »
We all here condemn the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband.

Unlike: 

https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1242494399638114305?s=20&t=1Y9_HZVUxOVBoutE9wYkWA
https://www.businessinsider.com/rand-paul-calls-out-nancy-pelosi-daughter-wishes-husband-well-2022-10

We already had a plan in place (campaigning and voting) to remove her from the office of Speaker.

Rand Paul OTOH (and Steve Scalise) deserve what thy got because they are conservative, and support liberty.
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