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Re: Taiwan
« Reply #256 on: January 28, 2025, 06:13:42 AM »
I once owned some TSM stock.  Bought at 14 sold at 17 and thought I did good.

what was it's high 221? 

 :-o

For yrs I avoided buying it as we all know it is just a matter of when CCP invades - they will - and they will succeed based on everything we read.

when they do get taken over do we accept them as political asylum immigrants?

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Re: Taiwan
« Reply #257 on: January 28, 2025, 07:26:12 AM »
Remember when Vivek said guarantee Taiwan until we had our own chip capabilities?

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Re: Taiwan
« Reply #258 on: January 28, 2025, 07:44:51 AM »
not really

but I do recall that alledged reports that we lose every war game with China and XI telling us we can't stop them.

Are we really going to start WW3 over Taiwan?  Just being realistic.


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2023: Vivek on Taiwan
« Reply #259 on: January 28, 2025, 08:10:24 AM »
Here you go:

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/vivek-ramaswamy-takes-nationalist-logic-to-its-obvious-horrifying-conclusion/



Politics & Religion / Ramaswamy on Taiwan
« Message by Crafty_Dog on August 15, 2023, 09:31:01 PM »
Vivek Ramaswamy Takes Nationalist Logic to Its Obvious, Horrifying Conclusion
By NOAH ROTHMAN
August 15, 2023 3:35 PM

Nationalist Republicans who oppose the continued provision of aid and lethal arms to Ukraine sometimes argue that the West’s commitment to degrading Russia’s capacity to project power abroad comes at a steep cost. America is a strained, reeling great power, they argue, and every dollar devoted to European security is one that is not spent on the more acute threat to U.S. dominance posed by China. Millennial GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy has made many of these now rote arguments, but he has done the public a service by taking the nationalist line to its logical conclusion.

“Xi Jinping should not mess with Taiwan,” Ramaswamy told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt on Monday. That is, “until we have achieved semiconductor independence,” the candidate continued, “until the end of my first term when I will lead us there.”

“After that,” Ramaswamy inadvisably added, “our commitments to Taiwan — our commitments to be willing to go to military conflict — will change after that, because that’s rationally in our self-interest. That is honest. That is true, and that is credible.”

He’s right about that. When an American president vacillates on his willingness to preserve the deterrent dynamics that make hostile foreign powers think twice about invading their neighbors, the world’s land-hungry despots stand up and take notice. Just ask Joe “minor incursion” Biden.

A purely libertarian conception of maximum economic efficiency would reject the market distortions necessary to repatriate critical defense-related industries back to American shores. Conservatives have traditionally been willing to absorb the economic inefficiency necessary to maintain a strong national defense. But the conceptually desirable effort to create a thriving domestic semiconductor industry has been complicated to the point of failure by this administration’s desire to pair that policy with populist immigration restrictions — a policy with which the populist right agrees. Perhaps the Taiwanese can breathe easier knowing we are so dedicated to self-sabotage that a potential President Ramaswamy will never be in a position to consign the Eastern Pacific to Chinese domination as he might like.

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But his comments are revealing, too, of how Republicans inclined toward nationalist populism invoke the Chinese threat only to bludgeon conventional conservatives with it. The logic of reducing our dependence on foreign manufacturers of defense-related components is that their utility to us diminishes as our dependence is reduced. That message is conveyed as much to our allies as our adversaries. Necessary though it might be, repatriating those industries must be paired with a robust commitment to an indissoluble relationship with our partners abroad, lest those who covet their lands get the wrong idea.

To hear the nationalist right tell it, the only combatants in a fight between the U.S. and China will be the U.S. and China. That is, of course, nonsense. America’s regional partners will man the front lines of that conflict: the Republic of Korea, Japan, Australia, the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, and, yes, Taiwan. They aren’t going to gamble their sovereignty on weak-kneed Washingtonians. Alliance structure suggests they will seek their own accommodations with the aggressor in their neighborhood if they cannot balance against it by aligning with the great power on the other side of the Pacific. China would have a much easier time turning the South China and Philippine Seas into Chinese lakes and putting an end to the U.S.-backed global maritime-trade regime if America signals that its interests are as parochial as Ramaswamy suggests they should be
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Re: Taiwan
« Reply #260 on: January 29, 2025, 10:15:12 PM »
Vivek has had to walk things back before.

Look at the future map with Taiwan under a China rule and see an amazing improvement in China's ability to project power outward, such as toward the United States.

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Re: Taiwan
« Reply #261 on: January 30, 2025, 05:53:19 AM »
My intended point is that his line of thinking is tempting for those who think that ultimately we cannot defend Taiwan (and IMHO this certainly is not a stupid thought!) and that therefore moving chip capacity to America is vital to our national security.   Trump's recent noises regarding the latter point are consistent with this.


If this is so, the unspoken between China and us is "Give us the space to rectify our chip dependence on Taiwan (ten years?) and we will not contest Taiwan falling into your hands."

With this as a backdrop, Trump's noises on Greenland, Panama, and even Canada take on additonal meaning.

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Re: Taiwan
« Reply #263 on: January 31, 2025, 04:25:24 PM »
Good!!!