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Tucker 2024 GOP Debate One preview
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2023, 05:02:11 PM »
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/07/12/gop_field_braces_for_tucker_carlson_iowa_inquisition_149481.html

One note from Doug, Tucker is very anti US in Ukraine war and the party is divided on that.  We'll see who can articulate a vision on that, bridge the divide.

How do you find acceptable common ground on war?


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from the Nikki thread
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2023, 04:45:43 PM »
"I'm not seeing that"

Dominion ~ 775 mill
Epps maybe next

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Re: Tucker
« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2023, 06:34:04 PM »
Reading things closely I think Tucker's emails were a factor only in the Pravdas reports that were looking to smear him.


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Re: Tucker
« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2023, 08:40:38 AM »
my understanding is this count for trump also includes those who passed through for mere seconds and did not exclude bots


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Re: Tucker
« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2023, 12:01:04 PM »
Ah.


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ZH: Tucker our system is collapsing real time
« Reply #59 on: September 25, 2023, 02:26:13 PM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/our-system-collapsing-real-time-tucker-carlson-gives-bombshell-interview?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1850

"Our System Is Collapsing In Real Time": Tucker Carlson Gives Bombshell Interview
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BY TYLER DURDEN
MONDAY, SEP 25, 2023 - 05:45 AM
Authored by Urs Gehriger via WeltWoche.ch,

“They’re all afraid”
Tucker Carlson is unstoppable. Since his sudden departure from Fox News he scores record viewer ratings. In an exclusive interview with Weltwoche, the political media star demolishes the mainstream media’s manipulation machine, reveals his concerns about a potential Donald Trump Restoration, he speaks about the disturbing state of the Biden family and discusses what’s next for him in a Post-Fox News Order.


When Tucker Carlson departed the Fox News Channel in April, his enemies cheered. But if they thought the happy warrior had finally been defeated, their judgment was as dismal as their approval ratings. With an assist from Elon Musk, Carlson is reaching an even larger, global audience with his new show, “Tucker Carlson on Twitter (now known as ‘X’).”

The veteran newscaster has expanded his mission: to defeat the mainstream media’s suffocating bias and incuriosity not just about critical events at home but in capitals around the world.

When we reach him, Carlson has just returned from the United Arab Emirates where he met with its president, Mohamed bin Zayed. Carlson pronounces the sheikh “the most interesting, wisest leader I've ever spoken to” — a provocative assessment given that the talk show host sat across from Donald J. Trump last month. Of the Arab leader, Carlson enthuses, “I've never met a more humble leader, ever — and I believe humility is a prerequisite for wisdom.”

Carlson is far less kind about his colleagues in the press. “They're all fearful people,” the 54-year-old scoffs. Instead of holding the powerful to account, “they do exactly the opposite.”  Indeed, “they do their bidding.”

Looking ahead to the Presidential elections in 2024, he says: “They're trying to put Trump in prison for the crime of running against Joe Biden … That's what this election's about. Are we going to allow that, or aren't we? And I just don't think we can.”

 Weltwoche: Since leaving Fox and going solo with your new show, “Tucker Carlson On Twitter (now known as ‘X’),” your posts have logged tens and sometimes hundreds of millions of views. You’re taking off like Buzz Lightyear. Are you feeling the freedom? To explore more topics and ideas? To express your views?

Tucker Carlson: Well, definitely. If anything, I've expressed my views less. I haven't done many straight-to-camera scripts where I write the script and give my opinion. I've done what I've wanted to do for a long time but couldn't, which is get on an airplane and go see the rest of the world. I couldn't because I had a daily show I had to do.

I've become convinced over the past several years — particularly since the war in Ukraine began — that the world is changing much more quickly than most Americans understand. And because there's virtually no coverage of the rest of the world in American media, Americans don't have a good sense of it.

What we, in this country, refer to as the "Post-War Order” — the institutions set up in the wake of World War II to keep the world peaceful and prosperous and the United States at the top of the pyramid, and that would include the dominance of the dollar, the SWIFT system, NATO — all of that appears to me to be crumbling. That's my view of it. I've wanted to travel and see if that is, in fact, happening — and it is.

Weltwoche: You travel the world, now, more than ever. What personality, globally, fascinates you in particular?

Carlson: I think, right now, the most interesting, wisest leader I've ever spoken to is the ruler of Abu Dhabi, MBZ. [Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, popularly known by his initials as MBZ, is president of the United Arab Emirates and the ruler of Abu Dhabi.]  I respect [him].

Weltwoche: You have just flown back to the US from Abu Dhabi?

Carlson: Yes, and I spoke to him. I've interviewed a lot of people who run countries or organizations. I've interviewed a lot of leaders in, well, thirty years. That's been my job. And I've never interviewed anybody in charge of anything [who is] more willing to admit when he doesn't understand something or have any answer to a question. I've never met a more humble leader, ever, and I believe humility is a prerequisite for wisdom.

Wise people admit what they don't know, and I've never seen that before. You don't see that in the West. You're not going to interview a presidential candidate in the United States, or a president, for that matter, who's willing to say, “I don't know the answer. I've thought about it, and I'm not sure.” They'll never say that, because you can't admit you don't know.

Of course, the scope of human knowledge is very limited. We don't know anything, actually. We don't know how the brain works or how the pyramids were built. The list of things we don't know is far longer than the list of things we do, and no one will admit that. The people who do, who are willing to say that out loud, are the ones who I trust. So, I was very impressed. I've never been more impressed by a leader.

But there are a lot of interesting people from around the world. Javier Milei, I thought, was an interesting guy. [Javier Gerardo Milei is an Argentine economist and politician known for his libertarian views.  He is leading in the polls for the next presidential election.]

Weltwoche: Let’s have a brief look back to your many years with Fox where you became a global media star, ranking number one with “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on cable news. During a recent episode of your show on “X,” you said: “The Murdochs never got in my way. They were always good to me.  But there were always small minded. … It’s a company run by fearful women, you know what I mean?”  What do you mean?

Carlson: Well, I spent fourteen years at Fox and, most of the time, I was working on my own business. I had no role in managing the company — far from it. I was just an employee. So, there are a lot of things about how the company runs that I wouldn't know about.

In my experience, the family that owns, that controls the company, the Murdochs, were always very gentlemanly to me. Very polite, nice, gave me huge latitude. I often, or sometimes, felt that they disagreed with what I was saying, that my views were different from theirs. But they let me express my views, and I was grateful for that. I am grateful for that. I never had a problem with them, and I don't have a problem with them, now. I'd disagree with them on certain things, but I'll always be grateful for the chances they gave me and the kindness they showed to me.

There are a lot of great people at Fox News, but there are also a lot of people who are just terrified, who are just trying to make it through the day. And I don't think they make Xanax strong enough for some of the people who run the place to calm down. [laughter]

I meant what I said. I've worked at a lot of news organizations in the United States, and they're all the same. They're all afraid of getting sued or yelled at or fired or humiliated. But interestingly, none of them are very afraid of getting things wrong. That's not a concern. They're not worried about accuracy as much as they're worried about being unfashionable or saying something forbidden. What they're really worried about is telling the truth.

You'd think that if you ran a news organization, your main concern would be getting it right and that you'd be terrified if someone would make a mistake. But that's not their top concern. And not just at Fox. I worked at MSNBC and CNN. I worked at PBS. I spent a year working at ABC. I've certainly been around a lot of news companies, and they're all the same. They're all fearful people who are making more than they probably should be, and they're worried about losing their jobs. Occasionally, you'll find a courageous person, but they are very, very, very rare. Very rare.

Weltwoche: The media as the “fourth estate” has a serious credibility problem, not just in the US. Here, it's the same. The only national news organization in the US that scores the majority of the public's trust is, according to YouGov [May 2023], The Weather Channel.

Carlson: Yes.

Weltwoche: Half of the American public believes that the news media deliberately attempts to mislead, misinform, and propagandize [Gallup, February 2023]. You've been in the news for so long. Why is the state of the media so miserable?

Carlson: Well, because if you want to subvert a democracy, you need to control the information that citizens receive. I'd argue that the news media in democracies is far less trustworthy than it is in other countries simply because it matters more in a democracy. People vote on the basis of the information they have. So, if you want to control their votes, you have to control what they know.

There has been a very aggressive attempt, over a number of decades on the part of the people who run the United States, to control what's available on our news stations and in our newspapers — to control the news media. And they have.

Weltwoche: The people working for news media seem to go along with it.

Carlson: Of course they do, because they're terrified. They're just afraid. They go along with it, absolutely. They're afraid to say something that will offend the people who run the government, who run the biggest companies and, most of the time, they won't. And that's not just a perversion of what they should be doing, it's an inversion. They exist to hold the people in power accountable. Instead, they do exactly the opposite. They do their bidding.

For example, they roll out this vaccine in the United States. It has massive consequences for the population. Hundreds of millions of people take it, and no reporting on that vaccine – no real reporting — is allowed. People are, literally, fired from their jobs if they'd question the efficacy and the safety of that vaccine. That's insane. In a functioning democracy, if you had a mandatory drug where everyone's required to take it, the news media’s job would be to report out whether or not it's safe and whether or not it works. They did just the opposite.

Even the war in Ukraine. This is potentially a nuclear conflict between superpowers. Shouldn't we know all that we can? “No.” You're not allowed.

I tried to interview Vladimir Putin, and the US government stopped me. So, think about that for a minute. By the way, nobody defended me. I don't think there was anybody in the news media who said, “Wait a second. I may not like this guy, but he has a right to interview anyone he wants, and we have a right to hear what Putin says.” You're not allowed to hear Putin's voice. Because why? There was no vote on it. No one asked me. I'm 54 years old. I've paid my taxes and followed the law.

I'm an American citizen. I'm a much more loyal American than, say, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, who didn't even grow up in this country; she grew up in Canada. And they're telling me what it is to be a loyal American? I'm just not even interested, at this point. I don't even care. When David Frum [a staff writer for The Atlantic magazine] from Canada gets to tell me that I'm a disloyal American, it's a joke. It's a joke. And I don't care what they think, actually, anymore. And I don't have to care. So, I don't.

 Weltwoche: The high ratings your show is getting demonstrate that you raise a voice that people want to hear. One such example of media manipulation is the media suppression and dismissal of Hunter Biden's laptop. You have studied the infamous “laptop from hell.” So have we, at Weltwoche, since the spring of last year. You have profound knowledge about the Biden business network. You were the first to interview the Biden business insider, Tony Bobulinski, in October 2020. From what you have seen, would you conclude that Joe Biden knew about his son's business? That he facilitated it? And that he might have profited, himself?

Carlson: Well, those aren't opinions. That's factually established. We interviewed Devon Archer [Hunter Biden’s longtime close business partner and friend] last month, who, on dozens of occasions at business meetings, watched Joe Biden call his son Hunter during a business meeting. His son put him on speakerphone while Joe Biden was vice president of the United States in order to help his son's business. By the way, the business, the so-called “business,” consisted wholly of being Joe Biden's son. Hunter Biden had no expertise in energy. He knew nothing about Ukrainian gas. It's a joke that he didn't know. He had no relevant experience in, or knowledge of, any of the so-called “businesses” he ran.

He was purely selling access to his father. It's not speculation. That's what his business partner said, on the record, on camera. Yes, there's no debate about that. That's a fact.

I guess the media hate Trump so much or are profiting in some way, I suppose, from Joe Biden being president that they feel they'd have to lie about it. But they're lying, period.

Weltwoche: Another story that has raised zero curiosity among the DC press is the allegation, reportedly made by his own daughter, Ashley, in her private diary, that Joe Biden may have behaved toward her in a way that she describes as "probably not appropriate" when she was a young girl. Hunter gave his dad the alias "Pedo Peter" in his cell phone contact list. I assume that in America "Pedo Peter" is an unusual term of address for one's father. Why has the press shown so little interest in investigating these disturbing details, especially in the post-#MeToo era?

Carlson: Well, [Ashley] said it in her diary, whose only audience was herself. She didn't allege it. She recorded it: that her father took showers with her as a child and, because he did, she became a sex addict. That's what she wrote in her diary. The response from the Biden administration was to get the Department of Justice to raid the home of the man who had the diary, arrest the people who had the diary though they didn't steal it, they paid for it. Ashley Biden left it behind in a house she'd been renting, and they never said anything about it.

That's a sex crime. I have three daughters. I can promise you it's not normal for a father to shower with his daughters. [Ashley] said, in her diary, “I think I have a sex addiction because my father showered with me.” That's what she says.

By the way, Joe Biden has dementia and is not running the United States. So, that raises the obvious question: “Who is?”

Weltwoche: Who is?

Carlson: I would assume Barack Obama through his cutouts who work for Joe Biden. But I don't know that. The New York Times hasn't bothered to report on it, but Joe Biden has dementia. He's not capable of speaking a complete sentence much less running the largest organization in human history, which is the US government. The whole premise is ridiculous, and now they're telling us? He's 80 years old. He can barely speak. He can barely walk. And he's going to run, again, for president of the United States while there's a war going on? The whole thing is so demented that we're moving to the point where they're not trying to convince anybody. They're just trying to suppress and arrest people who ask questions. They've arrested dozens of people, of political opponents, not for committing crimes, but for opposing them in the past month. Dozens in the past month.

Our system is collapsing in real time. We're watching this happen. If you read the American media, it's stories about Kim Kardashian and lots of irrelevant crap about trannies and all this stuff. The bottom line is the president of the United States is non compos mentis.

Who is running the government? If you can't answer that question, you're not doing your job in the media, it would seem to me. Whatever.

Weltwoche: You landed a great scoop with your interview with former President Donald Trump, which went on the air just as the Republican candidates were holding their first debate on your previous channel, Fox. Back in 2018, when you and I first met for an interview, Trump had been in office for almost two years. And you told me your assessment that, at that juncture, "Trump is not capable"as US president. You referenced the border — he didn't build the wall enough — as an example. If Trump succeeds in making a triumphant return to the White House, do you think he can be effective?

Carlson: No. Of course, I don't know. I'd merely be speculating. I think his first term as president proved it's pretty hard to run an organization, millions of people, when most of them are paid to oppose you, which they are. There are unionized federal employees whose jobs depend on the other party. So, the system, itself, is pretty difficult for someone who seeks to reform the system.

At this point, however, they're trying to put Trump in prison for the crime of running against Joe Biden. I'm just speaking in my capacity as a voter. That's all I need to know.

Do I think if Trump were to take over, tomorrow, that he would make the CIA accountable to voters? No, I don't. Do I think he'd build a wall? I don't know. I hope so.

I know that you cannot allow, you absolutely cannot allow a political party to use our system of justice to imprison the president's chief opponent. You can't do that. That's just absolutely not allowed.

From my perspective, that's what this election's about. Are we going to allow that, or aren't we? And I just don't think we can.

Weltwoche: Your fellow journalists can't stop criticizing you. They call your reporting "pro-Russian" or “pro-Trump.” Recently, you took a lot of heat for your Larry Sinclair interview where he talked about [conducting] an alleged gay affair with Barack Obama. [Sinclair, a convicted con artist, claims that he saw former United States President Barack Obama smoking crack before engaging in sexual activities with him in 1999 when Obama was a state senator.] While it’s true that his claims were never pursued by an Obama-besotted press, are you concerned that the one-on-one, interview format of your online show limits your ability to fully investigate the truth of your guests’ claims of fact? 

Carlson: Oh, sure, of course. I've been doing one-on-one interviews on television for 25 years.

Weltwoche: You had a big team at the time when you did those interviews.

Carlson: Well, they still work for me. I have the same team. [laughs] Yes, I have exactly the same team. In fact, they're coming over for dinner in just a minute.

I think Larry Sinclair has been attacked. He was arrested, at one point. He was dismissed as “non-credible.” This has been going on for fifteen years. People have been attacking Larry Sinclair or dismissing him. My view was, “I'm the balance, I guess. Why don't we get to hear from Larry Sinclair? Okay, here's Larry Sinclair. You can make up your own mind as to what you think about him.”

In other words, liars, proven liars like Ben Smith, at Politico at the time, were able to get out there and tell us that everything Larry Sinclair said was false.   Okay, that's Ben Smith's position. Here's Larry Sinclair's position. It seems like I'm the balance, as far as I'm concerned. Does that make sense?

Weltwoche: Some critics ask, “Is airing Larry Sinclair’s personal recollections any different from Christine Blasey Ford’s accusations against Brent Kavanaugh?”

Carlson: Well, it's very different. I think it's different in its particulars. It's very different. But I also think Larry Sinclair has the right to… Larry Sinclair, in my view, in a very credible way, said he had sex with Barack Obama. Since we're so fanatically pro-gay, now, and everything gay is good, why is that bad? “Obama likes dudes.” Why is that an attack on Obama? Do you know what I mean? Like, am I the only non-homophobe, here?

It seems obvious to me that Obama likes dudes. He told his girlfriend that. Alex McNear [who was romantically involved with Obama during his brief time at Occidental College] is a distant cousin of mine, by the way. And Obama told her, “I fantasize about having sex with men.” I guess it's a little strange to think that saying that out loud is somehow an attack. I don't know why it would be. I thought we're supposed to like dudes. [laughs] I can't keep up.

Weltwoche: Tucker, you've made a remarkable journey. Over the years, you've changed your mind about big issues, important issues, like the invasion of Iraq.

Carlson: Oh, yes.

Weltwoche: And you went public about it. Very few journalists are willing to admit to a typo, let alone make a serious course correction.  Is there an issue, right now, that you’re reconsidering, taking a second look at?  A previously held position that is currently under review?

Carlson: Oh, I changed my mind like every issue. [laughs] I'm constantly changing my mind about things. Constantly. Gosh, there are a lot of issues that I'm not sure I fully understand. [Artificial Intelligence], for example. I'm very worried that AI's going to destroy the world and become autonomous. But will it? I don't know. I guess, other than a gut-level concern, I don't have a very smart view of AI.

There are lots of issues, like that, that I'm trying to figure out. Thankfully, I don't have to have an opinion on everything. I'm old enough that I'm happy to admit when I don't know the answer to something.

I'll tell you this: My view that the war in Ukraine imperils Western civilization has gotten stronger with time, not weaker. I feel that way. I thought it, before. Now, I really think it. There are lots of things I have worried about in the past that have turned out to be not worth worrying about. I was just in the Middle East, yesterday, and I was thinking I first went to the Gulf in 2001, right after 9/11, and we were completely convinced — I was completely convinced — that we were looking at the beginning of a 500 year war against Islam, the West versus Islam. And that's not the way it turned out at all, actually.

The Gulf Arabs that I’ve dealt with, over the years, are far more tolerant than your average white, secular liberal in America — far more tolerant. They have a bigger and more Christian Christmas celebration in Abu Dhabi than we have in New York.

Weltwoche: In general, what gives you hope in a rather worrisome time, looking into the future?

Carlson: That the stakes have suddenly gotten so high that smart people are rethinking their assumptions. I see it all around me. I see people all around me asking themselves, “I used to believe this. Is it still true? Was it ever true? What is the truth?” People are focused on questions of truth and falsehood, I think, much more deeply than they ever have been, and that's a good thing.

I also see an awakening of spiritual awareness and religious faith in the United States that I think is great. Not everyone is reaching the same conclusions that I'm reaching, but that's okay. It's better than thinking that Amazon's going to make you happy, because Amazon is not going to make you happy, actually. That's not true. That's a lie. And more and more people seem to be concluding that it's a lie, and I think that's a great thing.

There's this idea that somehow the main threat to our happiness is from religious people. That's absurd. The main threat to our happiness is from people who think they're God. They're the dangerous ones. If you think that you're God, there's no limit to what you'll do because you think you're the final arbiter, you're the final judge, you're all-powerful. That's terrifying.

I'm much more comfortable around religious people. I'm a Christian, but they don't have to share my views. As I just said, I was actually meeting with some people the other day. There was a call to prayer right in the middle of our meeting, and everyone got up and got on their knees and faced toward Mecca and worshiped Allah. Twenty years ago, I would've thought, “Oh my gosh, how threatening!” Now, I thought, “How wonderful. How great is that?”

Weltwoche: When are you coming back to Switzerland? I know it might be boring, here. You told me there's nothing to report on. But it'd be nice to have you over.

Carlson: I love that. I love a boring country. You've got the last boring country in the West.

Weltwoche: Switzerland is changing, too.

Carlson: I know, it’s true. But at least it’s beautiful. If you have inspiring physical beauty, it’s kind of hard to take the mountains away. I hope Switzerland stays exactly the same. The second the American empire collapses, you will get the bank secrecy back.

By the way, secrecy does not imply wrongdoing. Privacy is a prerequisite for freedom. I have a lock at my bedroom. It doesn’t mean I do anything illegal in my bedroom. I am not a slave; I am a citizen. I can have privacy.




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Re: Tucker
« Reply #61 on: October 13, 2023, 05:52:25 AM »
EVen when I disagree with him I have been a big fan of Tucker, but somehow I have not gotten around to signing up for X to follow him there.

I can picture the description in this piece being accurate.

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Re: Tucker
« Reply #62 on: October 13, 2023, 08:16:30 AM »
This is not the first time I was annoyed by Tucker.

Hannity used his MMA training to (verbally) kick Vivek's ass last night!  :

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/10/13/ramaswamy_vs_hannity_one_of_the_things_i_liked_about_my_interview_with_tucker_carlson_was_we_had_a_thoughtful_conversation.html

Cheap shots at Nikki.

Vivek is showing his inexperience and his lack of suaveness.



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Re: Tucker
« Reply #63 on: October 13, 2023, 10:21:27 AM »
Are VR's accusations against NH true or not?

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Re: Tucker
« Reply #64 on: October 13, 2023, 10:30:02 AM »
so she is the board of Boeing - so what.

he may also have been implying "Jewish money"

I have been alarmed at all the Jewish support for DNC but not for the survival of Jews in Israel.

Vivek made 100's of millions in pharm industry

I do not hear him demand lower drug prices. oh but that's different  :roll:


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Re: Tucker
« Reply #65 on: October 13, 2023, 10:54:20 AM »
There were a lot more specific accusations than the Boeing board.

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Re: Tucker
« Reply #66 on: October 13, 2023, 11:06:02 AM »
" There were a lot more specific accusations than the Boeing board. "

I do not hear Tucker anymore because I am not on X.

Do you recall the accusations?

If they are legitimate then why did Hannity go after Vivek the way he did?


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Re: Tucker
« Reply #67 on: October 13, 2023, 06:09:39 PM »
I went back to the thread, and I am not seeing them.  Working from my increasingly presidential memory, there were ones of graft, inexplicable accumulations of wealth etc-- a rather serious list actually should they be true.



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Melanis wants Tucker?!?
« Reply #72 on: December 08, 2023, 07:00:08 AM »
Even though I don't agree with him in some important ways, I love and greatly respect Tucker-- but any VP should be ready to be President and he simply lacks suitable life experience preparation.

https://resistthemainstream.com/melania-trump-reveals-who-she-wants-to-be-donalds-vp/?utm_source=newsletter1

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Re: Tucker: The loser in Ukraine is America
« Reply #76 on: December 15, 2023, 04:38:04 AM »
https://rumble.com/v413lpa-whos-losing-the-ukraine-vs.-russia-war-the-united-states..html

Is this persuasive?

It's not my view.  No transcript posted but I notice from previous rants he acknowledges no benefit in stopping Putin. I do.

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-admits-russia-suffered-huge-losses-ukraine-1852660

In hindsight, deterrence would have been less costly, but (I think) Tucker opposed that as well.
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #77 on: December 15, 2023, 05:04:35 AM »
"he acknowledges no benefit in stopping Putin" or costs in him succeeding.

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Col. Macgregor
« Reply #79 on: January 29, 2024, 07:59:09 AM »
interesting
I see him on Newsmax too.
never noticed anti Israel or semitic bias off the top of my head

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Re: Tucker
« Reply #80 on: January 29, 2024, 04:50:15 PM »
If he has a hard on for the Israel Lobby , , ,

For me, I noticed a seriously pro-Russian bent to his commentary with Tucker-- which served Tuck's purposes.   I love Tucker, but sometimes he omits facts inconvenient to his argment when Russia is involved.   This includes back when Syria was a thing.

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Russel Brand on Tucker
« Reply #82 on: January 30, 2024, 08:42:16 PM »
I don’t recall hearing of this Brit before. Now I want to invite he and his family over for dinner. A great conversation about the current straights we find ourselves confronting:

https://x.com/tuckercarlson/status/1752466469454061656?s=12

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Re: Tucker
« Reply #83 on: January 31, 2024, 05:15:03 AM »
Russell Brand is whip smart and funny.   See e.g.

Season 3 of Ballers
Forgetting Sarah Marshall
Conversations with Jordan Peters
Comedy Specials


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Putin the MSM Out of Business
« Reply #85 on: February 06, 2024, 08:17:03 PM »
Kanekoa explains why the MSM is having kittens re Tucker’s Putin interview.

The corporate media is freaking out about Tucker Carlson interviewing Vladimir Putin.

Yet, history shows that the media has interviewed controversial figures in the past, like CNN with Osama Bin Laden in 1997, CBS with Saddam Hussein in 2003, 60 Minutes with Putin in 2005, and NBC with Putin as recently as 2021.

The NSA reportedly even spied on Tucker to prevent a pre-war interview with Putin.

Why are they so afraid of Tucker talking to Putin?

The corporate media does not want the American people to hear both sides.

They are mouthpieces for the U.S. military-industrial complex and the Washington DC political establishment.

Their fear is rooted in Tucker's criticism of the military-industrial complex and government.

He's rightly upset about the last two decades of Middle East wars that displaced 35 million, killed over 4 million, and cost taxpayers $8 trillion.

Like Tucker, many Americans are tired of endless wars and propaganda.

Since Trump won the presidency and the RussiaGate hoax happened, many people woke up to the fact that the legacy media operates without morals, ethics, or integrity—just pure propaganda.

Now, as the Biden administration escalates global wars, what the corporate media fears most is real journalism.

https://x.com/kanekoathegreat/status/1754985745838968965?s=61&t=L5uifCqWy8R8rhj_J8HNJw


ETA, let the synchronization begin: https://x.com/boatgirl3/status/1754628426999222494?s=61&t=L5uifCqWy8R8rhj_J8HNJw
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Tucker on why the Putin interview
« Reply #86 on: February 07, 2024, 06:00:09 AM »
scroll down to image of Tucker and click on "Why I'm interviewing Vladimir Putin"

Also noted is this:

" Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov commented on Carlson's claim of "not a single Western journalist has bothered to interview Putin":

"Mr. Carlson is not correct. In fact, there’s no way he could know this. We receive numerous requests for interviews with the president, [...]"


The other night Abby Phillips called Tucker a liar in a vehement disparaging rant about Tucker.
Somehow I sense at least part of the anger was jealousy that HE got the interview and CNN did not.
Evidence for that is Abby claims other outlets and I think she said CNN too, tried to interview Putin but he declined.
Yet now they criticize Tucker for giving the dictator Putin a platform.
But wait wasn't that what they would have done?

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Surber on Tucker & Putin
« Reply #87 on: February 08, 2024, 12:26:23 AM »
Journalist against a free press, oy vey:

Of course you interview Putin
The media now opposes freedom of the press. We live in Bizarro
FEB 7, 2024

Tucker Carlson announced on Twitter that he will be interviewing Vladimir Putin. It will be posted on Twitter.

Carlson explained why: “Here’s why we’re doing it. First, because it is our job. We’re in journalism. Our duty is to inform people.”

He went on for another four minutes but in 20 words, he gave the only explanation that matters. I wish he would drop the imperial first-person.

Among the many replies, Ian Miles Cheong said, “Massive credit to Elon Musk for allowing the video to be posted uncensored. It'll surely be banned elsewhere.”

Alex Barnicoat tweeted, “Tucker Carlson is about to save us from World War 3 with Russia. The West needs to hear the other side of the story.”

Preventing World War 3? This is why they hate him and why they hate Trump. These idiots want another world war and they really don’t care if America loses.

All evidence points to their desire to lose so they can set up a totalitarian government. The traitors in Washington have emasculated the military and literally cut the balls off generals. They opened the border to allow our enemies in. The traitors welcome Muslim terrorists and Chinese spies. The traitors depleted our military supplies by giving them away to Afghanistan and Ukraine.

You know, FDR never gave away a daggone thing. He made our allies take out loans to pay for the war materiel we sent them.

The traitors oppose giving Putin’s side of the story, as self-servingly ridiculous as it likely will be. Carlson told the Swiss magazine, Die Weltwoche, last fall that the Biden administration prevented him from interviewing Putin.

Carlson said, “I tried to interview Vladimir Putin, and the U.S. government stopped me. By the way, nobody defended me. I don’t think there was anybody in the news media who said, ‘Wait a second. I may not like this guy, but he has a right to interview anyone he wants, and we have a right to hear what Putin says.’

“You’re not allowed to hear Putin’s voice. Because why? There was no vote on it. No one asked me. I’m 54 years old. I've paid my taxes and followed the law.”

Nevertheless, Adam Kinzinger of CNN, a former congressman, tweeted, “He is a traitor.”


Not to be outdone, Bill Kristol said, “Perhaps we need a total and complete shutdown of Tucker Carlson re-entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on.”

Jim Rutenberg, author of the New York Times’s announcement in August 2016 that it was abandoning objectivity, portrayed Carlson as Putin’s puppet. Sooner or later, everyone will be a Putin puppet in paranoid liberal land.

He wrote, “Upon Mr. Carlson’s cancellation at Fox, Russian outlets attributed it to his ‘fearless’ reporting on Ukraine.”

The only thing fearless about the rest of the American press coverage of the Russian war on Ukraine is blisters from carrying all that water for the CIA.

The NYT’s Kevin D. Williamson also wrote, “On television and online, Russian state media has treated Mr. Carlson like a visiting celebrity, offering a stream of photos and videos of his various stops — at the airport, dining at a restaurant, taking in the Spartacus ballet at the Bolshoi Theater.”

Who is sucking up to who?

Once upon a time, the media supported freedom of the press. In 1937, a 44-year-old Jewish radio reporter from Cleveland went to Berlin to interview Hitler. That was seen as a good thing. She was Dorothy Fuldheim, 5 feet of fury with red hair. She later said, “He carried a riding whip and every so often struck it against his boots. He was the circus trainer and the world was to jump through the hoops at his command.”

It was one of the many highlights of her news career. Her interview of Albert Speer was another:

“Tell me,” I asked him, “why did you plead guilty?”

“Because I was guilty,” he answered. “I closed my eyes to what was happening because my ambition was so great. Hitler gave me the fulfillment of an architect’s dream, carte blanche to rebuild Berlin as I desired. Who would not have paid almost any price for such an opportunity? Then the war came and my dream for a new Berlin was shoved aside and Hitler appointed me czar of all German industries to produce armaments. By then I was too involved to withdraw.”

“But, Herr Speer,” I asked, “couldn’t you smell the dead flesh in the gas chamber, couldn’t you hear the cry of little children, didn’t you know that behind the trim landscaped concentration camps children were being held naked in their mothers’ arms, their clothes neatly piled in great stacks, and shoved into gas chambers? Didn’t you realize that you were using slave labor in your factories pouring out instruments of destruction?”

“No,” he said. “I closed my eyes to all of what was happening because it was too late. I had no choice or I would have also been a victim, too, for Hitler was irrational.”

—From Fuldheim’s prison interview with Hitler’s architect and later munitions czar Albert Speer, excerpted from A Thousand Friends. (“Hitler would have hung me like a carcass on the wall,” she recalled Speer’s telling her, as a guest on the Phil Donahue show in 1984. “And I told him, ‘It would have been a worthy and noble death.’”)

She was not the only reporter unafraid to visit the devil-in-the-flesh for an interview.

In 1966, Playboy talked George Lincoln Rockwell — an overblown American Nazi leader — into an interview. He said don’t send a Jew. Playboy sent Alex Haley instead.

The interview began:

Haley: Before we begin, Commander, I wonder if you’d mind telling me why you’re keeping that pistol there at your elbow, and this armed bodyguard between us.

Rockwell: Just a precaution. You may not be aware of the fact that I have received literally thousands of threats against my life. Most of them are from cranks, but some of them haven’t been; there are bullet holes all over the outside of this building. Just last week, two gallon jugs of flaming gasoline were flung against the house right under my window. I keep this gun within reach and a guard beside me during interviews because I’ve been attacked too many times to take any chances. I haven’t yet been jumped by an impostor, but it wasn’t long ago that 17 guys claiming to be from a university came here to “interview” me; nothing untoward happened, but we later found out they were armed and planned to tear down the flag, burn the joint and beat me up. Only the fact that we were ready for that kind of rough stuff kept it from happening. We’ve never yet had to hurt anybody, but only because I think they all know we’re ready to fight anytime. If you’re who you claim to be, you have nothing to fear.

Haley: I don’t.

Rockwell: Good. Just so we both know where we stand, I’d like to make something else crystal clear before we begin. I’m going to be honest and direct with you. You’re here in your professional capacity; I’m here in my professional capacity. While here, you’ll be treated well—but I see you’re a black interviewer. It’s nothing personal, but I want you to understand that I don’t mix with your kind, and we call your race “niggers.”

Haley: I’ve been called “nigger” many times, Commander, but this is the first time I’m being paid for it.

If that doesn’t make you smile, you have my sympathies on the loss of your sense of humor.

As a nation, we are losing that sense and much, much more.

Putin is evil, as was Hitler. Instead of showing any curiosity about Putin, the American press relentlessly repeats the narrative spun by the CIA and the rest of the government.

Kinzinger is entitled to his opinion but the rest of the press corps should have straightened him out by now.

Business Insider seemed shocked to report, “Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene defends the prospect of Tucker Carlson interviewing Putin amid rumors he is in Moscow.”

No one accused Barbara Walters of being a traitor when she interviewed Putin after 9/11.

Walters: Mr. President, you were in your office, and saw on television, the attack on the World Trade Center. What did you think? What did you feel when you saw it?

Putin: I was working at the time. It was a usual working day. But I had very mixed feelings. Above all, first of all, it might seem a little bit strange, but I had the feeling of guilt for this tragedy. You certainly know that we have talked a lot and in very many places about this fact of international terrorism. We have talked about the possible threats to the United States and to other countries. But well, we’re not able to face who, where and how can strike. And this was the first feeling I have: the feeling of anger and to some extent the feeling of guilt.

I should say at the same time that I understood quite well that what the American people and the American leadership felt at that time. Because quite recently, in 1999, we were the victims of a terrorist attack. And I’m not just referring to the Chechnya and the Caucasus. I’m referring to the explosion of residential buildings in Moscow and other cities as a result of which hundreds of innocent people died. So I understood the feelings that the Americans were feeling at that time, so I feel bad.

The way we learn is by reading and asking questions.

Those who don’t want you to ask questions are the real threat.

https://donsurber.substack.com/p/why-not-interview-putin?r=1qo1e&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&fbclid=IwAR2rViWmqKCzlGGQQjyTMOuGFfGZ8WvyFQFwoqM2ab82pgv-Ohuy1yUKO8s

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CNN Christine Amanpour interveiw Bin Ladan in 1997
« Reply #88 on: February 08, 2024, 07:32:35 AM »
a few yrs after the first WTC take down attempt

http://www.cnn.com/services/presents.opk/bin.laden.int/for.htm#:~:text=CNN%2C%20the%20first%20television%20news,Chief%20International%20Correspondent%20Christiane%20Amanpour.

They had no problem then interviewing a terrorist that attempted to kill thousands of Americans

I still hypothesize the MSM is simply jealous of Tucker.

Remember what Rupert Murdoch called Amanpour?    :wink:


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Re: Tucker-Putin
« Reply #89 on: February 08, 2024, 08:11:48 AM »
Good points ccp.  Let's see how Tucker does in the interview, not just Putin.  To me, Tucker is a bit of a Putin appeaser.  I don't buy all those arguments. 

What pre-conditions did they agree to?  Tucker strongly opposes aid to Ukraine, as I understand it.  That opinion is fine for many here in America, and the war seems to be a sinkhole for us right now, but helping Putin is a necessary consequence of opposing a US role in Ukraine.

Trump was harshly criticized when he wouldn't insult Putin to his face.  Putin is evil. (MHO)  Not stipulating that at the outset is neglect. (MHO)  But doing so would end the interview. 

I expect Tucker will ask hard questions but question how tough he will be on the follow up.  Vladimir Putin is the smoothest, most highly skilled politician on the planet.  He is a KGB master who lives and breathes a lifetime of his own propaganda.  He knows more about what's wrong with our own country than we do, and won't be afraid to use that.  With today's translation equipment, he will be answering without delay in perfect, calm English.

Putin has points he wants to make with the American people and I'm afraid Tucker is all too eager to help him.  We will see.

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Re: Tucker-Putin
« Reply #90 on: February 08, 2024, 09:46:33 AM »
And it's likely worth noting one metric that would indicate Tucker engaged Putin too successfully would invovle Carlson mysteriously departing this vale with some sort of wink and nod coming out of the Kremlin thereafter as has happened with other journalists, all Russian IIRC to this point.

As confessed elsewhere I have odd wiring, with one aspect of that leading me to eschewing things many others are gushing on about. Taylor Swift? No way. go get a life. Apple goggles or whatever they are called? Me and my $3K will wait, thank you. The hot new pistol/firearm accessory/rifle/shotgun all the gun rags are wetting their britches over? I'll master what I already own instead, m'kay? What Tucker said on TV last night? Meh, I'll take sober reflection over earnest hyperbole expressed under nice hair and behind TV makeup, thank you very much.

Problem is, Tucker gets in the pit and wrestles with topics so clearly in conflict with The Narrative, and those who are wholly owned by Deep State puppeteers or their proxies are so clearly horrified he's so willing to lift the kimono and let the world behold all wacky stuff being concealed that it's difficult for me not to give him a gruding listen now and then.

We'll see what unfolds with this, meanwhile me and my popcorn are enjoying the aghast parade of rank hypocrisy he's inspired.

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« Reply #91 on: February 08, 2024, 02:31:34 PM »
Well said both of you!

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Go Tucker!
« Reply #92 on: February 08, 2024, 04:13:12 PM »
Confronts Putin re WSJ reporter that has been incarcerated in Russia for 250 days. I mean, how often does a reporter take a principled stand in the house of someone that doesn’t like being told what to do? Can’t wait to hear what the journalistic herd finds to whine about here:

Tucker Carlson presses Putin to release Gershkovich

Tucker Carlson visits Moscow

•The Hill News / by Dominick Mastrangelo / February 08, 2024 at 06:48PM

Tucker Carlson in an interview published online Thursday pressed Russian President Vladimir Putin to release Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, who has now spent more than 250 days behind bars in Russia.

"Evan Gershkovich who's the Wall Street Journal reporter. He's 32. And he's been in prison for almost a year. This is a huge story in the United States. And I just want to ask you directly, without getting into the details of it or your version of what happened, if, as a sign of your decency, you would be willing to release him to us and we'll bring him back to the United States," Carlson asked Putin during the interview.

Putin was non-committal in his response.

"We have done so many gestures of goodwill out of decency that I think we have run out of them," Putin said. "We have never seen anyone reciprocate to us in a similar manner. There is no taboo to settle this issue. We are willing to solve it but there are certain terms being discussed via special services channels. I believe an agreement can be reached."

Gershkovich is a journalist who the U.S. says is being wrongfully detained amid high tensions with Russia during the war in Ukraine.

Putin suggested, without giving any evidence, that Gershkovich was working as a spy in Russia, telling Carlson "you know, you can give a different interpretations to what constitutes a spy."

"But there are certain things provided by law," the Russian president continued. "If a person gets secret information and does that in conspiratorial manner, then this is qualified as espionage."

Carlson pushed back, at one point saying "he's a 32 year old newspaper reporter."

"I do not rule out that the person you refer to, Mr. Gershkovich, may return to his motherland," Putin said. "We want the U.S. Special Services to think about how they can contribute to achieving the goals our special services are pursuing. We are ready to talk."

Carlson concluded by saying "I hope you let him out. Mr. President, thank you."

The sit-down with Carlson is Putin's first with a member of the U.S. media since his invasion of Ukraine.

Carlson has been sharply critical of U.S. support for Ukraine as it fights off against Russia, which he let Putin speak about at length for the majority of the two-hour conversation.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4457237-tucker-carlson-presses-putin-to-release-gershkovich/
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #93 on: February 08, 2024, 05:58:35 PM »
Do we have a link for the interview?   I hear it is getting tens of millions of views.



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Tucker Putin Interview
« Reply #96 on: February 11, 2024, 08:44:45 PM »

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Psaki on Tucker and Putin
« Reply #97 on: February 12, 2024, 06:19:11 AM »

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Re: Psaki on Tucker and Putin
« Reply #98 on: February 12, 2024, 07:45:01 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i6MMQEohbY

Tucker Putin link:
https://tuckercarlson.com/the-vladimir-putin-interview/

Sorry to say - something I never thought I'd say - I agree with Jen Psaki.

The interview was lame, in my view, and it couldn't have been anything other than that.  If Tucker was going to push back harder, Putin wouldn't have done the interview.

Thanks to Jen Psaki, we know Tucker knew about Putin poisoning his opponents but of course didn't mention it.  He was hoping for a safe trip home from the thick walls of the Kremlin.

I've mentioned it before, read the Bill Bowder book, Freezing Orders.  In fact, Putin did point to his annoyance with us freezing his assets.

Masterful propogandist, it was Putin who brought up his past without using the letters KGB, just that he knew about CIA because he was on the 'other team', like soccer opponents, 'just doing his job'.  NAZIs at Buchenwald were just doing their job as well.

We, at least here on the forum, already knew Putin's point of view on Ukraine for example.  Tucker just gave him endless opportunity to spread that whitewashed view wider.

Over and over Putin said in effect he was just minding his own business while NATO kept expanding eastward against our promises.  For another view quoted previously in these threads, a certain Chairman of the Senate Foreign Affairs committee in the 2000s saw it differently:

Senator Joe Biden, Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 2007 said Russia had slipped into "authoritarianism, corruption, and manufactured belligerence" and was "bully[ing] its neighbors".
https://irp.fas.org/congress/2007_hr/russia.pdf

My take on that report is that the Committee Chairman is reading, summarizing the best U.S. intelligence available.

If true, who was violating the neutrality and who was responding to whom?  (We have different views on that here.)

Another look:
"Alleged Russian political meddling documented in 27 countries since 2004"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/09/07/alleged-russian-political-meddling-documented-27-countries-since-2004/619056001/
https://firehydrantoffreedom.com/index.php?topic=1132.msg161036#msg161036

Again, if Putin is no threat to anything but what Russia has a rightful claim to, what do we need NATO for?
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Re: Tucker
« Reply #99 on: February 12, 2024, 11:16:09 AM »
Tucker certainly has , , , evolved in his POV on Russia over the years.

That said, IMHO it is possible to both realize that Putin is a killer authoritarian perennially probing for weakness (I am reminded of the description of him/the Russians being like a guy walking down a hotel corridor testing doors to see if any are unlocked) AND that Russia, like all powers, is entitled to strategic depth and that our having our State Dept and CIA put over $1B into Uke elections was disrespectful and unsound.

Our Pravdas to the contrary, Trump took a hard line with Russia (I trust I do not have to recount here all the ways) and there was no invasion.  Biden was and is a weak, hubristic, blustering appeaser.  He was and is that unlocked hotel door.

I did not see it as Tucker's job to debate Putin.  I saw his job to give us a chance to see Putin be Putin without interruption- and IMO he did that very well.  Invaluable for us to see how Putin's mind works.  From an international relations POV I found myself pondering the differing dynamics between a country that regularly changes its leaders and one whose leader has seen our leaders come and go and to hear what he thought of each of them and the variables in play.

How many of us remember that Russia gave us logistical access to Afghanistan?  That when Obama left us without means, that Russia gave us uber rides to the Space Station?  That Russia gave us heads up on the Tsarnov (sp?) brothers of the Boston Marathon Bombing?  Or, a bit deeper in the weeds, their cooperation for a time in the War on Drugs?  I only know of this because a friend who at the time was a DEA Special Agent (part of the team that arrested the recently released by President Biden "Merchant of Death" btw) told me about it when I asked for his thoughts on whether I should do a DBMA seminar in Russia.

We have discussed in the Game Theory thread that the correct strategy in repeating games is "Tit for Tat".   Putin is FAR deeper in the history and experience of the repeating game between Russia and us than corrupt buffoons like our current president or an ignoramus with good instincts like Trump. 

The deep trick when one is locked into Zero Sum is to break out of it-- because both are doing what the other did to it the previous time.  Was there missed opportunity here?

 I noted how Putin described his relationship with China-- inter alia we share a long border and will always be neighbors.  The man seems to think deeply from a perspective similar to George Friedman's geography-driven perspective.

As we (and George Friedman) have had occasion to discuss here more than once, Russia has MANY borders and ALL of them lack strategic depth.  Unmentioned in our press here are the moves we are making in Russia's underbelly in Central Asia.  We have Mexico as our underbelly, Russia has various nations and tribes of Muslims.

Contrast America-- historically blessed to be protected by two oceans and two secure borders with friendly neighbors- no longer the case with one of them!

Some random thoughts , , ,