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Good Trigger Control
« Reply #2554 on: May 14, 2024, 09:33:03 AM »
A good piece that addresses a peeve of mine: using the term “squeeze” (among others)n when talking about trigger control. Lemons and toilet paper are the mental models most students have when mentioning the term “squeeze,” with squeezing generally occurring with the whole hand, while good trigger control is about pressing the trigger straight back without introducing any extraneous motion to the firearm, and then recovering in a manner that sets you up for the next shot, if needed, a topic well developed here:

http://www.odcmp.org/1207/default.asp?page=USAMU_TC

I’ll be stealing some of this stuff when I’m instructing….


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NRA Cleans House
« Reply #2557 on: May 21, 2024, 05:57:40 AM »
This is good news. It's been a long fight with many discouraging turns, but it appears the NRA has cleaned house and jetisoned a lot of the people that had made dubious decisons and then dug their heels in:

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20240520/bob-barr-elected-nra-president-doug-hamlin-elected-to-serve-as-nra-executive-vice-president-ceo

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Just in Time for the Supreme Court to Consider in Rahimi
« Reply #2558 on: May 21, 2024, 11:19:37 AM »
2nd post. a look at a recent 9th circuit(!) ruling supporting the right of those convicted of certain non-violent crimes to regain their second amendment rights:

Second Amendment Roundup: Just in Time for the Supreme Court to Consider in Rahimi
The Volokh Conspiracy by Stephen Halbrook / May 21, 2024 at 12:04 AM//keep unread//hide
[The Ninth Circuit invalidates the felon gun ban for non-violent offenses with no Founding-era analogues.]

The Ninth Circuit, in U.S. v. Duarte, has joined the Third Circuit's Range decision in holding the Gun Control Act's ban on firearm possession by felons (18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1)) in violation of the Second Amendment as applied to convictions for non-violent offenses that have no Founding-era analogues.  Prof. Volokh summarized the decision when it was released on May 9.  The court's opinion is extraordinarily thorough and deserves a deeper dive.

The opinion was written by Senior Judge Carlos Bea and joined by Judge Lawrence VanDyke.  Judge Milan D. Smith, Jr., dissented and expressed hope for an en banc rehearing, which is all but automatic when a Ninth Circuit panel renders a decision favorable to the Second Amendment.  The decision will undoubtedly be considered by the Supreme Court Justices in deciding Rahimi, which involves the ban on gun possession by a person subject to a domestic violence restraining order, and in disposing of Range, another felon case which may be taken up by the Court or remanded for reconsideration in light of Rahimi.

At the textual level, Durate states, the right to bear arms is guaranteed to "the people," which per Bruen refers to "all Americans," not an "unspecified subset." While Heller stated that the Amendment protects "the right of law-abiding, responsible citizens to use arms" for self-defense, the universe of "the people" is larger.  (I suggest thinking of the two-circle Venn diagram – law-abiding citizens are the subset and they are within the larger superset of "the people.")

While Heller referred to "longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons" as among the "presumptively lawful regulatory measures," Bruen expressly requires courts to assess whether a restriction "is consistent with this Nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation."  The felon ban was not an issue in Heller, and "the Court has yet to explore this country's history of banning felons from possessing firearms."

That's where the Duarte panel hits a home run, noting the need for "distinctly similar" historical regulations given that violence with firearms is a "problem that has persisted [in this country] since the 18th century."  The government sought historical regulations from three sources: proposals in three of the state ratifying conventions, laws disarming classes of persons, and the historical practice of executing felons.

First, like some other courts, Duarte notes that proposals related to disarming criminals in three state ratifying conventions failed to pass.  But read carefully, they "allude to a possible tradition of disarming a narrow segment of the populace who posed a risk of harm because their conduct was either violent or threatened future violence."  The New Hampshire proposal would have allowed disarming those who "are or have been in actual rebellion," a crime that denoted violence.  Samuel Adams' proposal in the Massachusetts convention would have protected the arms right for "peaceable" citizens, but in the common-law context that meant disarming those who bore arms in a manner "to terrorize the people."  The draft of the Pennsylvania minority to disarm persons "for crimes committed, or [for] real danger of public injury" is best understood as referring to a narrower "subset of crimes [that] suggest[ed] a proclivity for violence."

Second, as elsewhere, the government lined up the usual suspects of purported historical analogues – the disarming of British Loyalists, Catholics, Indians, and slaves.  But those laws fail both the "why" and the "how" of Bruen's analogical test.

The British Loyalist "swore himself out of 'the people' by refusing his oath of allegiance," but his arms could be restored if he was no longer "disaffected."  The government cited only three colonial laws disarming Catholics, and those laws reflected the perception that Catholics "acknowledge[ed] a foreign power, superior to the sovereignty of the kingdom."  Laws prohibited selling arms to Indians, but did not ban gun possession by Indians, who were members of another political community "with whom the colonies were frequently at war."  As to laws disarming slaves and free blacks (an "analogue" the government embarrassingly dropped in Rahimi), they "fell outside 'the people' entitled to Second Amendment protection."

In short, the reasoning for disarming these classes "does not carry over to the nonviolent offender who served his prison term," and the "how" and "why" for such laws are not "distinctly similar" to § 922(g)(1) "to justify its blanket ban on non-violent felons possessing firearms."

Third, the government argued that the Founding generation understood felons to have no right to possess firearms because they faced death and total estate forfeiture for their crimes.  But as Founder James Wilson wrote in his Lectures on the Law (1791), even in England "few felonies, indeed, were punished with death."  Moreover, the concept of a "felony" today has skyrocketed beyond recognition.  As the Supreme Court wrote in Lange v. California (2021), which held that the flight of a suspected misdemeanant does not always justify a warrantless entry into a home: "Even as the newly formed states filled the pages of their penal codes with new felonies each passing year, '[t]he felony category' at the Founding still remained 'a good deal narrower [then] than now.'" Similarly, an officer cannot shoot a fleeing felon, the Court said in Tennessee v. Garner (1985), because "[m]any crimes classified as misdemeanors, or nonexistent, at common law are . . . felonies" today.

That said, the Duarte court continues, "it may well be that 'the 18th- and 19th-century' laws traditionally punishing certain felonies with death, estate forfeiture, or a life sentence are the closest things to 'longstanding' felon firearm bans that Heller had in mind."  Moreover, some new crimes are sufficiently "relevantly similar" to Founding-era crimes to be consistent with the Second Amendment: "Like burglary or robbery, [modern-day] drug trafficking plainly poses substantial risks of confrontation that can lead to immediate violence."

However, no historical basis exists to disarm a person permanently merely for conviction of "a[ny] crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year," based solely on that label.  Steven Duarte was convicted of vandalism, which was a misdemeanor at common law; felon in possession of a firearm, which was not a crime at the Founding; and drug possession and evading a peace officer, which were not shown to be crimes with an analogous, Founding-era predecessor.

As an American citizen, Duarte is among "the people," and "[t]he Second Amendment's plain text and historically understood meaning therefore presumptively guarantee his individual right to possess a firearm for self-defense. The Government failed to rebut that presumption by demonstrating that permanently depriving Duarte of this fundamental right is otherwise consistent with our Nation's history."  Section § 922(g)(1) is thus unconstitutional as applied to him.

In short, Duarte builds on now-Justice Amy Coney Barrett's dissent in Kanter v. Barr and the Third Circuit's en banc decision in Range, taking the analysis to a new height.  There will undoubtedly be further guidance from the Court in Rahimi with which to access whether the classification of all persons convicted of any crime punishable by over a year in prison have forfeited Second Amendment rights for their lifetimes.

The post Second Amendment Roundup: Just in Time for the Supreme Court to Consider in Rahimi appeared first on Reason.com.

https://reason.com/volokh/2024/05/20/second-amendment-roundup-just-in-time-for-the-supreme-court-to-consider-in-rahimi/
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Jerry Miculek
« Reply #2559 on: May 22, 2024, 05:03:01 PM »
For several years I was a range safety officer at the largest private range on the East coast. I’m working a Wounded Warrior event one weekend where I was going to be doing some adaptive pistol work and such with folks injured during their military service. It was a large event with just about every range there hosting a rifle, pistol, shotgun, silenced firearm, full auto firearm, various vendor giveaways and the like so there were a lot of moving parts. As such when I arrived I was told I would be instructing with an industry professional, but nothing more before I headed off to set up my range.

It was a foggy morning and as I was setting up targets I heard some folks arrive, one of ‘em sporting a Cajun twang. I’m like no, wait, what? Is that … Jerry Freaking Miculek, arguably the fastest shooter on the planet? It was, and I spent the day instructing with him, which would be sorta the same as a middlin’ martial artist learning he’d be running a class with Bruce Lee.

Jerry is a down to earth guy (he signed my RSO hat and posed with me for pics), a great teacher, and a character in general. His you tube vids are well worth checking out, along with the one shown here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHG-ibZaKM

And if you have a spare $3400 you can pick up the revolver he just designed:

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2024/05/22/model-327-wr/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

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Re: We the Well-armed People (gun and knife rights stuff ) Second Amendment
« Reply #2560 on: May 23, 2024, 02:10:29 PM »
Cool story!

Cool footage!

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ATF Kills Another American Among Other Issues
« Reply #2562 on: May 27, 2024, 08:53:42 PM »
Congressional hearing where various ATF unconstitutional decisions are outlined, one leading to the death of an otherwise law abiding citizen during a pre-dawn raid, a citizens that likely would have turned himself in for his alleged crime if given a chance to do so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgS2OGLuILE

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“Progressive” Trope Well Hung Out to Dry
« Reply #2563 on: June 05, 2024, 05:14:44 PM »
Filing this one away for the next time some anti-gun nitwit unzips to expose this old trope:

https://nypost.com/2024/06/04/lifestyle/do-men-with-big-guns-have-small-penises-science-finally-reveals-what-theyre-really-packin/

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Good Omens, Cargill, & the Administrative State
« Reply #2569 on: June 19, 2024, 12:39:33 AM »
Halbrook has his finger on the pulse of the second amendment and indeed his book That Every Man Be Armed[/i[ ought to be required reading for anyone interested in second amendment issues, particularly those that seek to abrogate it by extra-constitutional means. Here he looks at what Garland v. Cargill’s (aka the “bump stock ban”) bodes:

Bump Stocks Are Not Machineguns

The Supreme Court’s Cargill ruling has broad implications.

June 18, 2024

By STEPHEN P. HALBROOK

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The Supreme Court’s 6-3 ruling in Garland v. Cargill was based purely on the statutory text. The National Firearms Act defines “machinegun” as “any weapon which shoots ... automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger....” A bump stock is a device that allows a semiautomatic rifle to fire more rapidly by pulling the trigger and maintaining forward pressure on the handguard, which harnesses recoil to continue firing.

The opinion by Justice Clarence Thomas includes extensive technical information on how the internal parts of AR-15 rifles function, including diagrams and an animated graphic showing the movement of the parts. Firing a rifle with a bump stock still requires a separate function of the trigger for each shot, and it is not “automatic” because it will not fire without constant manual pressure on the handguard. The Court has never before ventured into such a detailed explanation about how a firearm works.

While the Court’s discussion of how the trigger, sear, disconnector, and bolt interact in the firing sequence is quite technical, the decision embodies broader implications that are significant in other contexts.

First, it is settled once and for all that a semiautomatic is not a machinegun. That should be a no-brainer, but plaintiffs alleged that AR-15s are machineguns in the Las Vegas, Highland Park, and Mexico civil lawsuits. Here’s what the Court said: “No one disputes that a semiautomatic rifle without a bump stock is not a machinegun because it fires only one shot per ‘function of the trigger.’”

And dissenting, Justice Sonya Sotomayor agreed: “Semiautomatic weapons are not ‘machineguns’ under the statute. Take, for instance, an AR–15-style semiautomatic assault rifle. To rapidly fire an AR–15, a shooter must rapidly pull the trigger himself.” While the term “assault rifle” is misplaced as applied to a semiautomatic, she correctly referred to “the military’s standard-issue M16 assault rifle” as “the archetypal modern ‘machinegun.’”

Second, Justice Sotomayor referred to AR-15s as “commonly available, semiautomatic rifles.” Recall that the Court in Heller said that firearms “in common use” are protected by the Second Amendment. Some courts that have upheld “assault weapon” bans claiming that AR-15s are not in common use, even though tens of millions of Americans own them.

Third, Cargill was decided solely on the statutory text. No “divine right of deference” was accorded to ATF. Had it claimed deference, it would have raised the issue of which ATF to defer to? The Court notes: “On more than 10 separate occasions over several administrations, ATF consistently concluded that rifles equipped with bump stocks cannot ‘automatically’ fire more than one shot ‘by a single function of the trigger.’” And any day now we’ll learn if the Chevron deference ship will sink in Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo.

Fourth, the statute being clear, the Court had no need to decide whether the rule of lenity applied, although the majority of judges in the Fifth Circuit decision thought that it did. That avoided the issue in Wooden v. U.S., where Justice Gorsuch supported application of the rule that “penal laws should be construed strictly” if they are “ambiguous,” while Justice Kavanaugh thought the rule should apply only if a law is “grievously ambiguous.”

Fifth, the supposed purposes of a criminal law do not override its explicit text. Cargill states that a semiautomatic with a bump stock is not a machinegun, even though it allows the rifle to “achieve a high rate of fire.” It adds: “A bump stock does not convert a semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun any more than a shooter with a lightning-fast trigger finger does.”

Justice Sotomayor thought the “high rate of fire” to be significant, adding: “When I see a bird that walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck.” Yet nothing in the definition of “machinegun” refers to the rate of fire. If a strange weapon is designed to fire automatically with a single function of the trigger, it would still be a machinegun even if it only fires one round per minute.

Sixth, the decision reinforces that any change in the criminal law should be made by Congress, not by administrative agencies. The Court states: “Senator Dianne Feinstein ... warned that ATF lacked statutory authority to prohibit bump stocks, explaining that the proposed regulation ‘hinge[d] on a dubious analysis’ and that the ‘gun lobby and manufacturers [would] have a field day with [ATF’s] reasoning’ in court.”

That brings us to Justice Samuel Alito’s concurrence, which stated: “There is a simple remedy for the disparate treatment of bump stocks and machineguns. Congress can amend the law—and perhaps would have done so already if ATF had stuck with its earlier interpretation. Now that the situation is clear, Congress can act.” Since that will now be on the table, how Congress acts if it is inclined to do so really matters.

In 2017, I testified against S. 1916 (Sen. Feinstein) in the Senate Judiciary Committee. As I summarized in my written testimony:

The misnamed Automatic Gunfire Prevention Act would apply only to semiautomatics, not automatics. Its ban on any part that “functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle” essentially bans any semiautomatic rifle, as a mere trigger adjustment for accuracy will increase the rate of fire. Since semiautomatic rifles are commonly possessed for lawful purposes, this would violate the Second Amendment. The terms are vague in violation of due process, as a person has no way to know or measure what may increase the rate of fire. “Bump-fire device” is not defined. Ten years imprisonment is imposed for mere possession without a willfulness requirement. This would be an unprecedented ban lacking a grandfather clause or an amnesty for registration.

Congress did not act in part because the proposed bills would have criminalized millions of citizens who possessed ordinary semiautomatic rifles and who had nothing to do with bump stocks. I recall Senator Feinstein responding to me that her bill was drafted by “experts.” Indeed so, as the bill would have gone much further than restricting bump stocks, and that was the sponsors’ aim.

There is another fundamental problem lurking here. As I’ve discussed elsewhere, the National Firearms Act of 1934 did not ban machineguns, and instead was thought to be an exercise of the power of Congress to tax. In Sonzinski v. U.S. (1937), the Supreme Court held that the NFA “contains no regulation other than the mere registration provisions, which are obviously supportable as in aid of a revenue purpose. On its face it is only a taxing measure....”

However, in 1986 Congress enacted 18 USC § 922(o), which banned mere possession of machineguns not possessed by the date of enactment. Because it deviated from the rest of the Gun Control Act by including no element related to interstate or foreign commerce, judges in several circuits—albeit not a majority in any case—would have held it to be unconstitutional.

One of those judges was now-Justice Alito. Dissenting in U.S. v. Rybar (3th Cir. 1996), he wrote:

Was United States v. Lopez, 514 U.S. 549 (1995), a constitutional freak? Or did it signify that the Commerce Clause still imposes some meaningful limits on congressional power?

The statutory provision challenged in this case, the portion of 18 U.S.C. § 922(o) that generally prohibits the purely intrastate possession of a machine gun, is the closest extant relative of the statute struck down in Lopez, ... which made it a federal offense knowingly to possess a firearm in a school zone. Both are criminal statutes that regulate the purely intrastate possession of firearms. Both statutes, departing from the mold of prior federal criminal statutes governing firearms possession, lack a jurisdictional element, that is, they do not require federal prosecutors to prove that the firearms were possessed in or affecting interstate commerce.... And in passing both statutes, Congress made no findings regarding the link between the intrastate activity regulated by these laws and interstate commerce.... That responsibility ... requires us to invalidate the statutory provision at issue here in its present form.

It is no secret that many lower courts resisted Lopez, just as they later resisted Heller and Bruen. What enumerated power authorizes Congress to ban mere possession of a firearm? Before § 922(o) passed in 1986, ATF Director Stephen Higgins testified to the House Judiciary Committee that of the “118,000 [machineguns] that are registered in our files ... I can count probably in less than my fingers, the number of cases in which those have been used in a crime or a crime of violence.” Not exactly a substantial, adverse effect on interstate commerce.

But that’s all water over the dam now. While the ban on new registered machineguns won’t be revisited, bills must already be in the works to ban bump stocks. Will they allow the as many as 520,000 bump stocks (ATF’s higher estimate) to be registered? And if they do, what percentage of owners would register them?

No doubt such bills will go much further than just to ban bump stocks. Senator Feinstein’s S. 1916 certainly did—it would have banned getting a match trigger job that would make the trigger lighter, and thus able to fire faster. The sponsors may also include bans on what Justice Sotomayor called “commonly available, semiautomatic rifles” like the AR-15.

Whatever the future holds, Cargill sets a good omen that the Court won’t be beholden to the administrative state and will follow Chief Justice Marshall’s words: “It is emphatically the duty of the Judicial Department to say what the law is.”

 
STEPHEN P. HALBROOK is a Senior Fellow at the Independent Institute and author of the Independent books The Right to Bear Arms, Gun Control in Nazi-Occupied France, Gun Control in the Third Reich, The Founders’ Second Amendment and That Every Man Be Armed.
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Another Backdoor Ban Effort
« Reply #2570 on: June 20, 2024, 02:05:44 PM »
Another inane effort to blame the manufacturers of objects for the behaviors of criminals. I imagine Glocks may be overrepresented as crime guns because they are relatively inexpensive, run well, are used by the majority of police agencies (if cops use ‘em they must be good), show up regularly in movies such as the John Wick franchise, and are widely available. So of course we should deprive federal contracts from purchasing them, perhaps in favor of something that costs four times more expensive and is less robust because asshats like this congresscritter can’t employ basic reasoning. And hey, guess what, once one “crime gun” is struck off the purchase list, a new one will take its place, until no manufacturer that wants federal contracts will sell to the private sector, which, I imagine, is the goal.

Oh and the Gun Violence Archive is known to be a specious source, which the author of this piece clearly knows by the way she cites them. Yo Miranda: perhaps you should use the FBI mass shooting definition and data that doesn’t call a gun going boom near a crowd a “mass shooting incident:”

Raskin introduces bill to curb federal contracts with 'bad-apple gun dealers'
The Hill News / by Miranda Nazzaro / Jun 20, 2024 at 2:14 PM

Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) has introduced legislation aimed at preventing "bad-apple gun dealers" from being involved in federal contracts.

The gun safety bill, titled the Clean Firearm Procurement Act, would require the attorney general to identify and make public a list of the firearms that are "consistently and dramatically overrepresented" in violent crime and crimes, per the bill. The attorney general would then prohibit federal departments and agencies from starting contracts with the dealers of the listed firearms.

Data collected by Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) would be used to identify the firearms mostly commonly traced to criminal activity, Raskin's office told The Hill. The ATF requires federally licensed firearms dealers to report when they have sold 25 or more guns over a single year that are linked to violent crimes within three years of the firearms' sale.

“The federal government should not be giving lucrative federal contracts to the bad-apple gun dealers who are consistently selling firearms to people who use them in violent crimes or transfer them to people who use them in violent crimes," Raskin said in a statement Thursday.

Raskin introduced the bill last week, while Sen. Alex Padilla (D-Calif.) will introduce companion legislation in the Senate in the coming weeks, Padilla's office confirmed.

“Our commonsense legislation aims to combat senseless, preventable gun violence by ensuring that gun dealers follow responsible business practices to keep guns from falling into the wrong hands," Padilla said.

Raskin, the senior Democrat on the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, has been a longtime advocate of stricter gun violence laws.

Raskin led a roundtable with other House Democrats last November, where lawmakers highlighted the scope of gun violence in the country and examined proposals to curb the epidemic levels of violence.

The roundtable came shortly after a mass shooting in Maine last year that left 18 people dead.

There have been 232 mass shootings so far this year, according to data from the Gun Violence Archive. The highest number of mass shootings in the U.S. happened in 2021, with 689 reported mass shootings, per the data.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4731274-raskin-bill-gun-dealers/

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WSJ on the Rahimi Case
« Reply #2571 on: June 23, 2024, 02:00:01 PM »


The Supreme Court’s Thoughtful Gun Ruling
In Rahimi, the Justices uphold a law stripping guns from an alleged domestic abuser, but a debate breaks out over originalism and the Second Amendment.
By The WSJ Editorial Board
June 21, 2024 7:10 pm ET

The Supreme Court ruled 8-1 on Friday that an alleged violent domestic abuser can be disarmed via a civil restraining order—and that’s when a debate on originalism broke out among the Justices. The opinions in U.S. v. Rahimi will help lower courts better judge Second Amendment cases, while also educating the public about the conservative Justices’ serious constitutional thinking.

Zackey Rahimi was sentenced to 73 months in prison under a 1994 federal law that prohibits firearm possession by people subject to certain protective orders. He allegedly threatened to shoot his girlfriend, fired a gun after an altercation with her was witnessed by a bystander, and shot the house of a man to whom he’d sold drugs. He shouldn’t have access to a gun. The question is how to disarm him in a way that doesn’t violate the Constitution.

Justice Clarence Thomas’s landmark 2022 opinion in Bruen said gun regulations must be “consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation.” Mr. Rahimi argued that the Founders didn’t ban domestic abusers from having weapons.

But Chief Justice John Roberts, writing for the majority, says it’s close enough: “An individual found by a court to pose a credible threat to the physical safety of another may be temporarily disarmed consistent with the Second Amendment.”

He surveys historical “surety” laws, under which a threatening person could be required to post a bond, as well as “going armed” statutes against menacing with firearms. The law applied to Mr. Rahimi, the Chief says, “fits comfortably within this tradition.” The restraining order deemed him a “credible threat.” It was time limited. The majority also rejects the government’s idea “that Rahimi may be disarmed simply because he is not ‘responsible.’”

Recent precedents “were not meant to suggest a law trapped in amber,” the Chief Justice continues. “The Second Amendment permits more than just those regulations identical to ones that could be found in 1791. Holding otherwise would be as mistaken as applying the protections of the right only to muskets and sabers.”

What thickens the plot is that this argument about the meaning and application of Bruen didn’t convince the author of Bruen. “Not a single historical regulation justifies the statute at issue,” Justice Thomas writes in dissent. “Surety laws were, in a nutshell, a fine on certain behavior,” and they “imposed a far less onerous burden.”

He says Mr. Rahimi’s alleged conduct qualifies for imprisonment, but the question for the Court is “whether the Government can strip the Second Amendment right of anyone subject to a protective order—even if he has never been accused or convicted of a crime.”
Perhaps this impassioned dissent is what prompted a remarkable series of conservative concurrences that amount to a seminar on how the Justices think about originalism.

Justice Neil Gorsuch emphasizes a list of questions not decided by Rahimi, including “whether the government may disarm a person without a judicial finding that he poses a ‘credible threat.’” Justice Amy Coney Barrett says Bruen must be deployed with a wider lens than lower courts have used: “Historical regulations reveal a principle, not a mold.”

Justice Brett Kavanaugh criticizes the judicial inventions of balancing tests, “heightened scrutiny and the like,” which he calls a relatively modern innovation.

“To be clear, I am not suggesting that the Court overrule cases where the Court has applied those heightened-scrutiny tests,” Justice Kavanaugh says. “But I am challenging the notion that those tests are the ordinary approach to constitutional interpretation. And I am arguing against extending those tests to new areas, including the Second Amendment.”

We can’t do justice here to all of this debate. But the opinions by five conservative Justices are a refutation of the left’s criticism that originalism is merely a contrived theory used to justify policy outcomes. Rahimi and other cases this year have revealed the varieties of thoughtful originalist interpretation, with often surprising results.

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WSJ: Antigun Activists Ambushed Me
« Reply #2572 on: June 26, 2024, 02:34:05 PM »


Antigun Activists Ambushed Me
The New York Times disparaged my research based on vague criticisms by progressive academics.
By William English
June 26, 2024 5:11 pm ET


I conducted the largest-ever survey of American gun owners in 2021. The survey outraged gun-control advocates, who believed it could hurt them in court. They proceeded to disparage me professionally and tried to delay the progress of my research without any scientific basis.

The attorneys general of Illinois and Washington started issuing subpoenas for my documents and communications as early as the spring of last year, though I was neither party to nor an expert witness for any of their cases. The subpoenas were broad enough to create legal jeopardy if I didn’t continually turn over ongoing work. As a practical matter, I had to abandon my research for months at a time. After old subpoenas expired, new ones came in.

Journalists from the New York Times and the Trace—an online news outlet funded by gun-control activists—contacted me, armed with politicized talking points identical to those used by the state attorneys general in their subpoenas. These journalists visited my office multiple times while I was on leave. I caught one on camera trespassing at my family’s residence. When the subpoenas turned up nothing of interest, the Times journalist contacted my university, incredulous that I wouldn’t be “eager” to talk with him.

Finally, three days before the Supreme Court decided its latest Second Amendment case, U.S. v. Rahimi, in which I had submitted a friend-of-the-court brief, the Times ran a story attacking me and my research, complete with custom graphics and a podcast. The story included leaks of the high court’s deliberations in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen (2022). Justice Samuel Alito had cited my brief in his concurrence on that case.

The article insinuated that my survey wasn’t credible because I had served as an expert witness in four firearms cases, some paid. The Times relied on vague criticisms by progressive academics who have themselves taken large sums of money from antigun litigants and advocacy organizations, which the Times reporters failed to disclose.

These included Louis Klarevas, an antigun expert witness in more than two dozen cases, who was paid $480 an hour by the state of Illinois for his criticism of my survey in May; Matthew Miller, who has received more than $1 million in grants from the Joyce Foundation, known for its support of the self-described “most aggressive group in the gun control movement”; and Joseph Blocher, who received grants from Arabella Advisors’ New Venture Fund and its donor organization, the Harold Simmons Foundation. The Times itself describes Arabella as a “dark money” group. It supports activities like “Project Unloaded,” the mission of which is to create a “new cultural narrative that guns make us less safe.”

The substantive criticisms of my work were even more dishonest. The article took issue with the wording of my survey, but the questions were peer-reviewed before being fielded and the complete questionnaire and all data have long been publicly available on Harvard’s Dataverse. I also provided the original questionnaire and all data in 2019 to the state of Vermont, where I ran my pilot survey. The article tried to cast doubt on the survey’s sampling, but it was a representative sample of 54,000 Americans conducted by a professional survey firm used by researchers at such institutions as Stanford, Harvard and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

The Times article insinuated that I hid my funding, compensation and expert-witness work. But my funding has been fully disclosed, in accordance with academic practice, in every journal article accepted for publication. I fully disclosed my compensation, in accordance with legal practice, in the Vermont case. And I have listed my prior expert witness work in subsequent expert reports submitted to courts.

Perhaps strangest of all, the article calls my data “cherry-picked” because I separately listed examples of several affirmative replies to an optional free-response question. In fact, every summary statistic reported in my papers analyzed all survey data unless explicitly noted as part of a transparent methodology.

My survey results are hard to refute because they line up with other independent surveys from Pew and Gallup at the national level. The Times tried anyway. The article dismisses as implausible my finding that Americans use guns to defend themselves 1.67 million times a year, but that point lies squarely within the range of previous findings. As noted in a 2013 National Academies report, commissioned by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention during the Obama administration, “Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million.”

Why would the Times run such a disparaging story on me and my work? Simple: To warn off other academics thinking of doing similar research, and to influence courts where states are losing on the merits. They want to pressure judges overseeing gun cases to ignore objective data and to allow further harassment of me.

The Times and other outlets are signaling that they will cancel academics who state inconvenient facts. Progressive law clerks and state lawyers are violating longstanding norms and laws in service to political agendas. Many journalists carry water for these causes by running poorly sourced articles larded with dishonest accusations. Those of us who want to foster an evidence-based public-policy discourse should reject these tactics, and courts should take note of them.

If these are the strongest criticisms that can be made of my survey after years of digging, it should make us more confident in the results. If these reporters want to uncover a well-funded, ideologically motivated plot to undermine objective firearms research, they need only look in the mirror.



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8th circuit on 18-20 year olds
« Reply #2575 on: July 17, 2024, 07:13:15 AM »
Federal appeals court rules that gun ban on 18- to 20-year-olds is unconstitutional

BY STEPHEN DINAN THE WASHINGTON TIMES

A law barring young adults from being able to get concealed-carry weapons permits is unconstitutional, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday.

The three-judge panel of the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Minnesota has not shown that the founders would have countenanced an age-based restriction on gun ownership, so its concealed-carry law barring those under 21 from obtaining permits cannot survive constitutional scrutiny.

“Minnesota claims that 18 to 20-year-olds present a danger to the public, but it has failed to support its claim with enough evidence,” wrote Judge Duane Benton, an appointee of George W. Bush, in upholding an injunction against the state’s law.

The ruling comes just weeks after the Supreme Court tweaked gun jurisprudence in the Rahimi decision, ruling that the government can bar someone from possessing a gun if he has been deemed a danger, even without a criminal conviction. That ruling slightly walked back the court’s expansive 2022 Bruen decision, which seemed to suggest many gun control laws would be unconstitutional.

Judge Benton said under his reading of the two cases, the government must show a specific reason why a group of people being restricted from gun possession would have been dangerous in the eyes of the founding generation, when the Second Amendment was crafted.

He said that while other parts of the Constitution contain age restrictions, the Second Amendment does not.

“Ordinary, law-abiding 18 to 20-year-old Minnesotans are unambiguously members of the people. Because the plain text of the Second Amendment covers the plaintiffs and their conduct, it is presumptively constitutionally protected and requires Minnesota to proffer an adequate historical analog consistent with the Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation,” he wrote.

Minnesota argued that residents ages 18 to 20 weren’t competent to make decisions about guns, and so the state’s ban was similar to founding-era laws against dangerous people possessing firearms. The state compared its ban to early laws barring people who have mental illness from having a gun.

The court rejected that comparison. “Minnesota may not claim all 18 to 20-yearolds are comparable to the mentally ill. This court declines to read a new category into the list of presumptively lawful statutes,” Judge Benton wrote.

Minnesota’s law was challenged by several gun rights groups, including the Second Amendment Foundation.

“This is a significant victory for the rights of young adults,” said Alan M. Gottlieb, the foundation’s founder. “It is one more step in our crusade to win firearms freedom one lawsuit at a time.”

The decision is one of a host of cases playing out in lower courts in the wake of the Bruen and Rahimi rulings

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Re: Disagreement with expert advice
« Reply #2577 on: July 25, 2024, 11:55:17 AM »
Trivia:  Steve Tarani was a classmate and occasional training partner of mine at the Inosanto Academy

https://www.ammoland.com/2024/07/expert-advice-on-gun-defense-may-get-people-killed/?utm_source=Ammoland+Subscribers&utm_campaign=c9eb7853e7-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-c9eb7853e7-7181749#axzz8h0ITHWnt

Boils down to whether you want a vote in the outcome. If not, be a good victim and hope they don’t put a plastic bag over your head and shoot you in the face as they did in the Wendy’s example. If so, be a well trained and equipped shooter.

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4th Circuit upholds MD ban on assault looking weapons
« Reply #2580 on: August 07, 2024, 04:28:48 AM »
Federal appeals court upholds ban on assault weapons

By Michael Kunzelman and Lea Skene ASSOCIATED PRESS

A federal appeals court on Tuesday upheld Maryland’s decade- old ban on military-style firearms commonly referred to as assault weapons.

A majority of 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals judges rejected gun rights groups’ arguments that Maryland’s 2013 law is unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.

The U.S. Supreme Court declined to review the case in May, when the full 4th Circuit was still considering it. Maryland officials argued the Supreme Court should defer to the lower court before taking any action, but the plaintiffs said the appeals court was taking too long to rule.

Maryland passed the sweeping gun control measure after a 20-year-old man killed 20 children and six adults in 2012 at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. It bans dozens of guns — including the AR-15, the AK-47 and the Barrett .50-caliber sniper rifle — and puts a 10-round limit on gun magazines.

The Firearms Policy Coalition Inc., one of the plaintiffs challenging Maryland’s law, said it would again ask the Supreme Court to review the case.

“Our objective is simple: End all bans on so-called ‘assault weapons’ nationwide. And we look forward to doing just that,” coalition President Brandon Combs said in a statement.

The 4th Circuit’s full roster of judges agreed to consider the case after a three-judge panel heard oral arguments but hadn’t yet issued a ruling.

The weapons banned by Maryland’s law fall outside Second Amendment protection because they are essentially military-style weapons “designed for sustained combat operations that are illsuited and disproportionate to the need for self-defense,” Judge J. Harvie Wilkinson III wrote in the court’s majority opinion.

“Moreover, the Maryland law fits comfortably within our nation’s tradition of firearms regulation,” Judge Wilkinson wrote. “It is but another example of a state regulating excessively dangerous weapons once their incompatibility with a lawful and safe society becomes apparent, while nonetheless preserving avenues for armed self-defense.”

Eight other 4th Circuit judges joined Judge Wilkinson’s majority opinion. Five other judges from the Virginia-based appeals court joined in a dissenting opinion.

The law’s opponents argue it’s unconstitutional because such weapons are already in common use.

In his dissenting opinion, Judge Julius Richardson said the court’s majority “misconstrues the nature of the banned weapons to demean their lawful functions and exaggerate their unlawful uses.”

“The Second Amendment is not a second-class right subject to the whimsical discretion of federal judges. Its mandate is absolute and, applied here, unequivocal,” Judge Richardson wrote.

Judge Wilkinson said the dissenting judges are in favor of “creating a near absolute Second Amendment right in a near vacuum,” striking “a profound blow to the basic obligation of government to ensure the safety of the governed.


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Serious Read: Dangers of the Common Use argument
« Reply #2582 on: August 24, 2024, 05:17:47 AM »
https://www.ammoland.com/2024/08/in-common-use-can-ultimately-be-used-to-make-the-second-amendment-a-moot-point/?utm_source=Ammoland+Subscribers&utm_campaign=290f98e450-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-290f98e450-7181749#axzz8jp22r2je

Making the case that the Second Amendment is about a citizenry armed for military level action when we are attacked.

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In Common Use’ Can Ultimately be Used to Make the Second Amendment a Moot Point
Ammoland Inc. Posted on August 23, 2024 by David Codrea
Far-fetched? Who knows what will be available to the military and law enforcement in 100 years,  and what it means to “the people” of the Second Amendment if the government can deny future technology because it’s “dangerous and unusual,”  and not “in common use”? (Smithsonian Institution/PD)
Far-fetched? Who knows what will be available to the military and law enforcement in 100 years,  and what it means to “the people” of the Second Amendment if the government can deny future technology because it’s “dangerous and unusual,”  and not “in common use”? (Smithsonian Institution/PD)
“The Second Amendment Allows a Ban on the AR-15,” Harvard University Professor of Law Noah Feldman once declared in a Bloomberg/Washington Post “opinion” piece.

That it’s an “opinion” is the one truthful admission in this otherwise absurd act of academic gaslighting. Harvard, Bloomberg, and WaPo are all for eviscerating the right of the people to keep and bear arms and routinely spread whatever lies they can get away with (despite the disingenuous caveat that “This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners.”)

“Under current law, the Second Amendment extends only to weapons that are not ‘unusual’ and are ‘in common use’ by law-abiding citizens,” Feldman asserts. “Whether that includes AR-15s is a question the Supreme Court has not yet resolved, although the justices have recently been asked to weigh in. A key question today — though not when the Bill of Rights was ratified — is whether a weapon is ordinarily used for self-defense.”

“To give you a sense of how different things were with respect to gun issues 84 years ago, the court held unanimously that the Second Amendment didn’t protect [short barreled shotguns],” Feldman misstates, citing the case of U.S. v. Miller. That’s actually not what they said at all. In the opinion for that case, Justice McReynolds noted:

“In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a ‘shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length’ at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense.”

They didn’t have evidence because the case wasn’t argued in front of them. Had it been, the military utility of such weapons could have been decisively established, starting with the flintlock blunderbuss:

“This short shotgun-type firearm utilized about a half-pint of shot. During the Revolutionary War, American warships used Blunderbusses for repelling unwanted borders. Gunsmiths made these specifically for defense at close quarters.”

Using the Bruen standard of text, history, and tradition as understood by the men who ratified the Second Amendment, plenty of subsequent “legal” rulings should fall. So would Feldman’s proposed AR ban, as his own words about citizen militias indicate, if he would only heed them.

“Those militias, in turn, were made up of ordinary citizens,” he instructs. “And the ordinary citizens in the state militia  were expected to provide their own weapons.”

What weapons were they expected to bring from home, and how did they compare to what enemy soldiers were issued?
“From this, it followed, for McReynolds, that the Second Amendment protected only weapons that had ‘some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia.’ That did not include the short-barreled shotgun, he added. Such a weapon was not ‘any part of the ordinary military equipment’ nor would its use ‘contribute to the common defense.’”

In fact, citizens reporting for militia duty were expected to bring weaponry suitable for battle, and in many cases, these men “outgunned the police,” especially when considering the standard issue for British troops was the Brown Bess musket, while patriots who owned them came equipped with more accurate and longer-range Kentucky/Pennsylvania rifles. Recall that the Founders considered the militia “necessary to the security of a free State,” and to expect their equipment would be inferior to that of attackers they were defending against would have been suicidally absurd.

The militia deployed with the intent to match and best a professional military threat. Its function was — and still is — to field citizen soldiers, and these citizens bore arms that were suitable for that purpose, “ordinary military equipment” intended to be taken into “common defense” battles.

Still, apparently believing he is making his case, Feldman continues offering pre-Bruen examples of infringements, in this case citing Antonin Scalia’s wholly uncalled-for concession that “Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those ‘in common use at the time’ finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.”

He used that to imply banning weapons such as “M-16 rifles and the like” would not be an infringement. Otherwise, he asserted, “it would mean that the National Firearms Act’s restrictions on machineguns … might be unconstitutional, machineguns being useful in warfare in 1939.”

Yes, it would be.

But naturally, Feldman (and all the other prohibitionists) rely on that to exploit, beginning with a lie.
“The virtue of the Supreme Court’s 1939 test is that it was at least true to the original meaning of the Second Amendment,” he claims. “Its practical disadvantage, of course, is that if updated to the present, the rule would protect military-style weapons — not only semiautomatic rifles but machine guns, RPG launchers, predator drones, and the like.”

Notice how he escalates “dangerous and unusual” to lump conventional small arms in with “the like,” which could conceivably escalate up to weaponized anthrax and suitcase nukes.  The 1939 non-test (because it wasn’t a test with no arguments and evidence) is hardly “true” to Founding Era intent, as the Framers never qualified the Second Amendment by declaring “the right of the people to keep and bear non-dangerous and usual arms in common use at the time shall not be infringed.”

“Scalia discounted the introductory clause that explains the purpose of amendment as ensuring a well-regulated militia,” Feldman elaborated. “He shifted the meaning of the right to bear arms to personal self-defense.”

Inexplicably and unjustifiable, he did, and we ignore the first 13 words of the Second Amendment at our peril. Feldman takes full advantage of that, writing “Today, the Second Amendment applies to all weapons that ordinary people carry on an ordinary basis for self-defense … Logically, it should also exclude AR-15s, which are not commonly carried for self-defense.”

Logically it shouldn’t. But unfortunately for gun owners, too many influencers ostensibly on “our side” won’t explore the militia aspect, and that dereliction makes the Second Amendment more vulnerable to infringements.

“Here’s hoping that, when the Supreme Court ultimately addresses the issue, the justices can recognize that that AR-15s do not belong in the same category as handguns,” Feldman concludes. “They are weapons of war — for, in fact, a well-regulated militia — not for ordinary people to carry for ordinary use.”

Going back to the Founding Era for understanding, text, and tradition, we can see what Continental Congress delegate Tench Coxe had to say about that:

“Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… [T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”

The tradition is that citizens have militia-capable firearms. Although “well regulated” is deliberately misrepresented to mean “gun control” is permissible, the militia system envisioned by the Framers is one where the “regulation” is through coordinated training and deployment, not in dictating what citizens are allowed to possess. That this has been intentionally ignored by those whose goal is a monopoly of violence undermines not only Founding intent, but guarantees the citizenry will be left out of all future technological developments. And that’s made inevitable by the “in common use test.”

Because what was in common use in the past is not what is in common use today, nor what will be in common use tomorrow. At least by the military and by law enforcement.
A persistent lie told by the prohibitionists is the Founders only had muskets and would be so horrified by AR-15s that they’d have never written the Second Amendment. That, of course, is a load. It relegates the role of prominent scholars, inventors, and innovators educated under the influence of the Enlightenment to that of unimaginative and non-observant dullards. They knew about multiple barrel cannons, volley guns, pepperbox revolvers, multiple shot Girardoni air rifles, crank-operated Puckle guns, breech-loading Ferguson rifles… “dangerous and unusual” all, and none of them “in common use at the time” when first developed.

The Founders were at the vanguard of the technology of their day, and of pushing it to see what else could be discovered and achieved.  They knew that times were changing, as theirs were the revolutionary, educated minds bringing the changes about. And when new developments did happen, they embraced them, as opposed to suppressing and outlawing them while “swarms of officers” issued arbitrary rule changes to ban them.

That’s what “history, text, and tradition” will tell anyone who wants to look honestly.
By relegating what’s “in common use at the time” to what’s commercially “popular,” as opposed to what modern infantry soldiers are armed with, the advantage will forever be with invaders and enforcers. Ditto the “for lawful purposes” qualifier, as outlawing firearm types makes sure they can’t be legally owned. We see that all the time with the restrictions on “civilian” possession of machine guns (which the government knows we have a right to own), and it won’t end there. (As an aside, if we relegate “in common use” to what’s popular and neither “dangerous” nor “unusual”, so-called “smart guns” would fall into that category and could be banned!)

Think about technological developments in small arms since the founding of the Republic. How would Washington’s troops have fared against Grant’s, Grant’s against Pershing’s, and Pershing’s against Patton’s…? That’s the past. What about the future?

If “the people” of the  Second Amendment can be denied arms based on them not being “in common use” for sport and for limited “self-defense” situations, what chance would they have resisting tyranny equipped with weaponry that today would be considered the stuff of science fiction? Who knows what those imposing their demands will have at their disposal, along with the power to withhold from citizens 50 years from now, or 100, or beyond?

Since no innovation begins “in common use,” a government with the power to do so can ban all new weapon developments from those they would rule, retaining them exclusively for itself. It’s what I warned about when I wrote “Things to Come” back in 2002 for Guns and Ammo (not online, and it’s copyrighted, so I can’t link to the entire essay):

It’s been said that a battle isn’t won until a man with a rifle occupies the ground. We must keep in mind that someone probably once said the same thing about spears.

About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.



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Re: We the Well-armed People (gun and knife rights stuff ) Second Amendment
« Reply #2584 on: August 29, 2024, 12:23:50 PM »
Hopefully the NRA's new leadership will prove to have some stones and teeth and truly stick it to those that have sought to abrogate the second amendment by extraconstitutional methods.

NRA Hires Former Solicitor General for 1st Amendment Litigation

Daily Bulletin by Editor / Aug 28, 2024 at 1:40 PM//keep unread//hide

The National Rifle Association of America (NRA) has retained former United States Solicitor General Noel Francisco to lead the Association’s legal efforts against public officials who weaponized government against the NRA and its members. Mr. Francisco served as the 47th Solicitor General of the United States from 2017 to 2020 and is Partner-in-Charge of the Washington D.C. Office of the Jones Day law firm.

nra law litigation noel francisco 1st amendment jones day washington Solicitor General“I am pleased to announce that the NRA has engaged with Mr. Francisco and Jones Day to represent the NRA and our millions of members as we conclude this important legal matter,” said Doug Hamlin, NRA Exec. Vice President & CEO. “Mr. Francisco is well regarded in the legal community and served at the highest levels in our federal government. A strong advocate for Constitutional freedoms, Mr. Francisco will be a trusted voice for NRA members in the courtroom.”

Mr. Francisco’s retention comes at a pivotal time when the NRA seeks to hold government officials accountable for actions that violated the Association’s right to free speech. In May of this year, with the assistance of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and Eugene Volokh, a UCLA Law School professor, the United States Supreme Court issued a unanimous ruling in the landmark NRA v. Vullo First Amendment case.

The Court decided that the NRA had properly stated a claim that actions taken by Ms. Vullo to coerce banks and insurers to stop doing business with the Association suppressed NRA’s pro-Second Amendment speech. The case will now continue, with the NRA seeking monetary damages.

“The Supreme Court rightly decided that government agencies cannot be permitted to be weaponized against the American people,” continued Hamlin. “I have full confidence in Mr. Francisco’s ability to litigate and look forward to a successful conclusion to this legal fight.”

https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2024/08/nra-hires-former-solicitor-general-for-1st-amendment-litigation/

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Undoing the NFA of 1934?
« Reply #2585 on: August 29, 2024, 12:38:08 PM »
2nd post: a federal judge dismisses machine gun charges due to second amendment protctions. IMO machine guns are bullet hoses and hence all sorts of wasteful unless used judiciously, and certainly realize all sorts of doomstruck handwringing will occur among those that predicted widespread "wild west shootouts" will occur due concealed carry laws (uh wrong, they haven't), and, should this ruling prove to have legs, will pop A LOT of corn and gleefully peruse the histrionics this ruling will inspire. Doubt it will undo the National Firearms Act of 1934--an abjectly unconstitutional piece of legislation clearly meant to target only those without means, or the Gun Control Act of 1968, which pretty much doubles down on the same, but one can dream....


Federal Judge Dismisses Machine Gun Charges Citing 2nd Amendment
The Firearm Blog by Darwin N. / Aug 28, 2024 at 1:23 PM/federal judge dismisses machine gun charges citing 2nd amendment

U.S. District Judge John W. Broomes, a President Trump appointee, dismissed two counts of machine gun possession, questioning whether bans on the weapons violates the Second Amendment. The decision has yet to be appealed, however, if upheld it could initiate a sweeping impact on machine gun regulations moving forward.

On August 21, the Wichita, Kansas Federal Judge threw out the charges against Tamori Morgan, who was indicted last year, accused of possessing a machine gun converted Anderson Manufacturing AM-15 in 300BLK as well as a “Glock switch,” turning the popular semi-automatic handgun also into a machine gun. Invoking the June 2022 Supreme Court ruling in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen, Judge Broomes stated that the government “has the burden to show that the regulation is consistent with this nation’s historical firearm regulation tradition.”

The Bruen decision has been seen as a major victory for gun rights advocates, one that changes the landscape when it comes to the right to carry firearms in public, however, it is clear that the full potential of the decision has yet to be realized.

Opposition

An associate law professor at Pepperdine University, Jacob Charles, called the Kansas ruling a direct fallout resulting from the Bruen decision, arguing that he expects Judge Broomes’ decision to be overturned, citing Supreme Court precedent allowing for the regulation of machine guns, a sentiment shared by federal prosecutors in earlier court filings. Shira Feldman of Brady United described the ruling as “an incredibly dangerous decision, and it’s inconsistent with what the Supreme Court has said the Second Amendment means.”

The irony that the opposition, who bash the Bruen decision, now calls for the same body to rule against it, does not escape me, nor does the assumption that the Supreme Court is not capable of going back and ruling that one of their previous decisions may not have been prudent.

It will be interesting to see where this goes next, and the subject is plenty capable of sparking multiple debates. Do you think firearms capable of fully automatic fire should be banned from the general public after a certain year of manufacture? Do you feel they should be regulated? To that matter, do you find the regulation of suppressors and short-barreled rifles under the NFA unconstitutional? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/federal-judge-dismisses-machine-gun-charges-citing-2nd-amendment-44815756


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The History of Bans on Types of Arms
« Reply #2587 on: September 05, 2024, 01:52:54 PM »
HT to BBG

Interesting for the historical context, if nothing else:

[David Kopel] The History of Bans on Types of Arms Before 1900
The Volokh Conspiracy / by David Kopel / Aug 28, 2024 at 1:45 PM
 Bowie knife | Knife Magazine
[Restrictions on carry, minors, and misuse were the norm -- not bans]

Controversial arms are nothing new in the United States. During the 19th century, there were widespread concerns about criminal use of arms such a Bowie knives, slungshots, blackjacks, and brass knuckles. The full history of state, territorial, and colonial laws about controversial arms is detailed in my recent article for Notre Dame's Journal of Legislation, The History of Bans on Types of Arms Before 1900, coauthored with Joseph Greenlee.

Because the article is thorough, it is enormous: 163 pages of text, and 1,563 footnotes. The student staff for volume 50 of the Journal of Legislation was spectacular. Not every law journal has staff who could handle such a megillah, let alone a staff that whose meticulous cite-check would improve the article.

The mainstream American approach to controls of the above arms were: 1. bans on concealed carry; 2. limits on sales to minors, such as requiring parental permission; and 3. extra penalties for misuse in a crime. Sales bans were the minority approach, and possession bans very rare.

From 1607 through 1899, sales bans for nonfirearm arms were:

Bowie knife. Sales bans in Georgia, Tennessee, and later in Arkansas. Georgia ban held to violate the Second Amendment. Nunn v. State, 1 Ga. 243 (1846).
Prohibitive transfer or occupational vendor taxes in Alabama and Florida, which were repealed. Personal property taxes at levels high enough to discourage possession by poor people in Mississippi, Alabama, and North Carolina.
Dirk (a type of fighting knife). Georgia (1837) (held to violate Second Amendment); Arkansas (1881).
Sword cane (a sword concealed in a walking stick). Georgia (1837), held to violate the Second Amendment. Arkansas (1881).
Slungshot or "colt" (most typically, a lead weight held in the tip of a flexible bludgeon). Sales bans in nine states or territories. The Kentucky ban was later repealed. Illinois also banned possession.
Sand club or blackjack. New York (1881), (1884), (1889), (1899).
Billy. New York (1881), (1884), (1889), (1899).
Metallic knuckles. Sales bans in eight states, later repealed in Kentucky. Illinois also banned possession.
Cannons. No bans. Restrictions on discharge without permission in a variety of municipalities.
American bans on possession or sale to adults of particular types of firearms were:

Georgia (1837), all handguns except horse pistols. Held unconstitutional in Nunn v. State, 1 Ga. 243 (1846).
Tennessee (1879) and Arkansas (1881). Bans on sales of concealable handguns. Based on militia-centric interpretations of the state constitutions, the laws did not ban the largest and most powerful revolvers, namely those like the Army or Navy models.
Florida (1893). Discretionary licensing and an exorbitant licensing fee for carry of repeating rifles. Extended to handguns in 1901. The law was "never intended to be applied to the white population" and "conceded to be in contravention of the Constitution and non-enforceable if contested." Watson v. Stone, 148 Fla. 516 (1941) (Buford, J., concurring).
Earlier this month, the en banc Fourth Circuit, by a 10-5 vote, upheld Maryland's ban on common rifles dubbed "assault weapons." Judge Wilkinson's majority opinion cited the article 16 times, and Judge Richardson's dissent cited it 9 times. Bianchi v. Brown, 2024 WL 3666180 (4th Cir. 2024) (en banc).

The article has also been cited in three U.S. District Court opinions supporting the claims of Second Amendment plaintiffs. Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, Inc. v. Platkin, 2024 WL 3585580 (D.N.J. July 30, 2024); Miller v. Bonta, 699 F.Supp.3d 956, 981 n.86, 987 n.107 (S.D. Cal. 2023); Duncan v. Bonta, 695 F.Supp.3d 1206, 1242 n.177 (S.D. Cal. 2023). And in a Third Circuit dissent disagreeing with Second Amendment claims. Lara v. Commissioner Pennsylvania State Police, 91 F.4th 122, 144-45, 147 (3d Cir. 2024) (Restrepo, J., dissenting).

As the cites indicate, judges can disagree about how strictly or broadly to draw historical analogies, and about what sorts of laws create an established tradition at a given level of generality. It is at least helpful, I hope, that judges can have access to a common set of facts about the historical regulation of controversial arms.

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Permitless Carry increased shootings?
« Reply #2588 on: September 06, 2024, 01:56:01 PM »
https://www.thetrace.org/2024/08/permitless-concealed-carry-gun-super-bowl/

n February 14, gunfire erupted during a parade for the Kansas City Chiefs, who had won the Super Bowl three days earlier. What was intended to be a celebration of their victory — amid a crowd that law enforcement estimated at around a million —  ended with a shooting that left one woman dead and wounded nearly two dozen others, half of them children.

More than 800 police officers were at the parade, but there was little they could legally do to intervene until the moment guns were raised and bullets began to fly. Carrying a loaded gun at a crowded parade isn’t illegal in Missouri. Like 28 other states, Missouri doesn’t require a permit to carry guns in public. It’s a permitless carry state, where people can legally tote loaded firearms without a license, training, or a background check.

Removing permit requirements was supposed to make people safer. That’s what gun rights proponents said as the laws spread across the country over the past decade. By removing roadblocks for citizens to carry guns, more people would do so, and it would deter or stop shootings. But by that metric, permitless carry appears to have failed — in Missouri and elsewhere — with most states enduring more fatal shootings after the laws took effect.

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The Trace analyzed gun violence data and found that 16 of the 20 states that enacted permitless carry between 2015 and 2022 saw more shooting deaths — excluding suicides — after the laws took effect than during an equivalent time period before. In Missouri, average monthly shooting fatalities, adjusted for population, were 28.7 percent higher in the three years after the introduction of permitless carry, compared to the three years before. In neighboring Kansas, which enacted permitless carry in July 2015, fatalities were 24.9 percent higher.

West Virginia endured the largest increase in shooting deaths among the states analyzed by The Trace, with a surge of 40.2 percent. That is in line with a 2023 study in the American Journal of Public Health, which reported a 48 percent increase in West Virginia’s gun homicides in the four years following the adoption of permitless carry, relative to the years from 1999 to 2015.

Two states saw essentially no difference in shooting fatalities following permitless carry, The Trace found. Two other states — Indiana and Ohio — saw fewer

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Gun Industry Trade Association Derails Challenge to Colorado’s Large-Capacity Magazine Ban
A pro-Second Amendment group sought to overturn the state’s restrictions on ammunition magazines. The case crumbled after the National Shooting Sports Foundation refused to allow scrutiny of its research.

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Agun rights group has been forced to drop its challenge to a Colorado law that restricts large-capacity ammunition magazines after the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a firearms industry trade group, refused to allow its researcher to be deposed in the case.

The development is a setback for the National Association for Gun Rights, the organization that brought the lawsuit in 2022. And it’s at least the second time in the past eight months that groups challenging state magazine-capacity limits or assault weapons bans declined to allow scrutiny of research that they hoped to submit in court.

In a video posted to YouTube on August 12, NAGR’s executive director, Hannah Hill, called the NSSF’s decision an “absolutely insane development” that “involves some friendly fire within the gun rights world.” She explained that, based on discussions dating to January, NAGR believed that the trade group would let its researcher be questioned, which would allow an NSSF study to be submitted in the case. “Then at the last minute, after it was too late to go a different route and find somebody else to speak to this evidence, the NSSF refused to allow their research director to give the critical deposition,” Hill said. “That decision left our case dead in the water.”

The NSSF research dealt with a fundamental issue: whether magazines that exceed Colorado’s 15-round limit are in “common use.” In 2008, the Supreme Court held that firearms can’t be banned if they are in common use, but did not define the term.

Opponents of magazine limits and assault weapons bans contend that common use is effectively a measure of popularity, the sheer number of a given firearm in circulation. Supporters of such laws argue that the correct measure is the frequency with which people use the firearm to defend themselves, as the Supreme Court’s Second Amendment jurisprudence is centered on the right to self-defense.

Fourteen states limit magazine capacity and at least nine ban assault weapons. Even though supporters of these laws acknowledge that millions of larger-capacity magazines and assault weapons exist, those seeking to strike down bans still must produce numbers — the basis of their argument — and back them up.

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In the Colorado case, NAGR, which has a reputation for tangling with other gun groups, had another witness who was supposed to testify to the ubiquity of magazines holding more than 15 rounds, but the judge in the case, a Biden appointee, excluded relevant portions of his testimony and ruled him unqualified. The judge noted that the witness, Mark Passamaneck, had based his findings in part on Facebook messages with an executive at a major magazine manufacturer. “Would you happen to have any reference for how many magazines over 15 rounds are owned by Americans? I am preparing legal declarations (as a retained expert by NAGR) for several cases,” Passamaneck wrote. The executive responded, “Super hard to say exactly, as I’m sure you know … but I think we use over 350 million as a conservative figure.”

In an interview, Passamaneck said the executive was a friend and major figure in the industry whose input he valued, but that he did not use the information as a basis for his findings, nor did he take the judge’s decision personally. “I am a forensic engineer; I am not a statistician,” Passamaneck said. “Is there validity in the judge striking that testimony? That’s for an attorney to answer, but my numbers were accurate and from real sources.”

NAGR’s Hill declined to comment. In the YouTube video, she said the NSSF study her group hoped to introduce was “currently the gold standard of evidence on commonality.” Released in April, the study estimates that 963 million magazines entered the commercial market between 1990 and 2021, and that roughly 717 million of them held 11 or more rounds.

Passamaneck said that, after the judge excluded his testimony, he contacted the NSSF’s research director, Salam Fatohi, and helped develop a plan to fast-track work that the trade group already had underway. He said the figures that were ultimately produced are “significant” and surely an undercount. “There are absolutely manufacturers who, for political reasons, refuse to give numbers to NSSF on this topic,” Passamaneck said.

At least one federal judge has rejected previous, widely used, NSSF research on magazines. In a challenge to Oregon’s magazine-capacity limit, Fatohi testified last summer that figures in an NSSF chart were derived from firearms production estimates and that he was unsure how many manufacturers had been consulted. (The figures were developed before Fatohi became research director.)  U.S. District Court Judge Karin Immergut, a Trump appointee, ultimately upheld the law, ruling that “the NSSF Magazine Chart is entitled to little weight.”

The NSSF did not respond to requests for comment.

In addition to NSSF research, gun rights interests have relied on the work of William English, an assistant professor at Georgetown University, to challenge magazine restrictions and assault weapons bans. As The Trace reported in July, the Constitutional Defense Fund, a nonprofit that has funneled millions of dollars in dark money to support a nationwide operation aimed at striking down firearms restrictions, has supported English’s work.

Facing a suit that seeks to abolish Washington state’s assault weapons ban, the state last year subpoenaed English, whose work the plaintiffs had cited, hoping to learn more about how his research was developed. Rather than allow such an examination, the plaintiffs in January agreed to not rely on English’s work “in any respect” as they pursue their case.   

David Faigman, an evidence specialist who is chancellor and dean of the University of California College of Law, San Francisco, said by email that there are strategic reasons for a party to not allow testimony from a friendly researcher. “Generally,” Faigman said, “it is a problem for litigators if they expect their experts to be excluded, because it creates a precedent that might lead other courts to exclude the same, or similarly situated, experts in other cases litigating the same issue.”

Also, if a party thinks that a judge will be unreceptive to the testimony, it may hold off so that the expert can be presented to a more sympathetic court. “The Federal Rules and most state rules require appellate courts to be deferential to a trial court’s evidentiary rulings,” said Faigman, who added that “appellate courts can only reverse an admissibility decision if the trial court has ‘abused its discretion.’ This is a hard standard to meet.”

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Since the Supreme Court established a new test for determining the constitutionality of gun laws in 2022, firearms interests have quickened the pace of challenges to all kinds of restrictions, including magazine limits and assault weapons bans. So far, circuit courts have upheld such laws.

Andrew Willinger, executive director of the Duke Center for Firearms Law, said that, because of the political lean of certain regions, there are no magazine or assault weapons restrictions on the books in some circuits, making challenges impossible. As a result, he said, there is only a slim chance that circuits will split on the common use debate and prompt the Supreme Court to resolve the issue. However, a split is not required for the justices to step in.

Willinger said there is a challenge to Maryland’s ban on assault weapons in the 4th Circuit that is a strong candidate for Supreme Court review. “I think that would be pretty well teed up,” he said of the case, which involves a law firm and gun rights organizations supported by the Constitutional Defense Fund, the dark money passthrough.

Although the Maryland case may be favored to reach the court, NAGR has promised to bring another challenge to Colorado’s magazine limit, which became law after the 2012 Aurora theater shooting that left 12 people dead and 70 injured. The shooter used an AR-15-style rifle and a drum magazine capable of holding 100 rounds.

“This is only one battle,” said Hill, NAGR’s executive director. “We are in this for the long haul, and we are going to outlast both the gun-grabbers and the Benedict Arnolds alike. I’m not going to sugarcoat it: This is a major set-back and it stings like the dickens. But another lawsuit will be coming.”

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Chicago: Fight to remove Shotspotter
« Reply #2590 on: September 06, 2024, 02:01:25 PM »
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In Chicago, ShotSpotter Sparks a Political Power Struggle
The fight over the gunshot detection technology has escalated between the mayor and a group of alderpeople, who have tried to block its removal.

By Justin Agrelo Jul 19, 2024

Police monitor ShotSpotter and other crime detection programs at the Chicago Police Department 7th District's Strategic Decision Support Center. ShotSpotter has sensors in 35 of 50 Chicago wards, most of which are in Black and brown communities on the South and West Sides. Michael Tercha/Chicago Tribune via AP


This February, Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson announced his plan to decommission ShotSpotter, a controversial gunshot-detection technology that alerts police to shootings by using hundreds of acoustic sensors throughout the city.

Johnson’s plan, which would sunset the technology in November, was the culmination of a years-long debate and a decision applauded by Chicagoans who had long contended that the technology was harmful to their neighborhoods. In 2021, Chicago’s Office of Inspector General found that less than 10 percent of ShotSpotter alerts led police to evidence of a gun-related criminal offense. It argued that the technology was escalating tensions between police and residents in neighborhoods where alerts were common. In the highly publicized case of Adam Toledo, it was a ShotSpotter alert that brought officers to Little Village and resulted in police killing the 13 year old.

Adam’s death motivated Jose Manuel Almanza Jr., a community organizer, to join the #StopShotSpotter campaign. “I personally couldn’t not do anything about it,” he said. Almanza, who is also from Little Village, was thrilled with Johnson’s decision. But like others who opposed the technology, his relief was short-lived.

Just days after Johnson’s announcement, a group of alderpeople introduced a law that breathed new life into the debate, turning what had been a fight over the merits and drawbacks of the technology into a municipal power struggle. The law, spearheaded by 17th Ward Alderperson David Moore, passed by 34-14 in May. It’s supposed to allow City Council members to decide whether ShotSpotter remains in their wards, and require the mayor to get City Council approval before removing gun violence prevention-related funding from any of the city’s 50 wards.

Moore, along with ShotSpotter’s proponents, say the technology saves lives by informing police of shootings in instances when no one calls 911 — and that Johnson shouldn’t be taking that technology from the Chicagoans who could benefit from it. “Just as communities that do not want ShotSpotter in their wards, other wards should have the ability to decide whether they want to keep the residents safe,” Moore said.

And in the middle of July, Moore introduced a new ordinance that would empower the police superintendent and City Hall attorneys to control gunshot detection technology contracts independent of the Mayor, but the measure was quickly blocked.

Even though these attempts to keep ShotSpotter have been symbolic — only Johnson has the authority to manage the contract, and after the vote, his press secretary confirmed that the city’s relationship with the tool will end as scheduled — the fight over the technology became a political football during a critical juncture of the Johnson administration. Questions leading up to passage of the new law focused largely on power and who gets to make the crucial decisions over the technology’s use, not on its benefits and drawbacks. The struggle for control, experts and activists say, can determine who has final say over police strategy and the laws that govern Chicagoans’ everyday lives.

“It’s been hard to change ShotSpotter because of all of the different ways that the police … are shielded,” Robert Vargas, an associate professor of sociology at the University of Chicago, said. “The whole debate over ShotSpotter is a microcosm of this. What was at stake here is far bigger.”

Hanging in the balance are the citizens whose lives are affected not only by the technology, but also by the crimes it’s supposed to prevent.

Assessing ShotSpotter
ShotSpotter has sensors in 35 of 50 Chicago wards, most of which are in Black and brown communities on the South and West Sides. The debate around its use mirrors those taking place in cities across the country. In June, an audit from The New York City Controller found that, of the 940 ShotSpotter alerts the New York Police Department responded to last June, only 13 percent were confirmed shootings. New York has until December to decide whether it will keep using the technology.

SoundThinking, the California-based company behind ShotSpotter, claims a 97 percent accuracy rate for identifying gunshots through its computerized algorithm and analysts who verify that the noises are actually gunfire. A growing body of research, however, has raised questions about not only the technology’s efficacy, but also the ethics of its use. The MacArthur Justice Center analyzed ShotSpotter alerts from July 2019 through April 2021 and found that they led Chicago Police to more than 40,000 fruitless deployments. And a 2023 paper from researchers at Duke University argued that ShotSpotter diverts Chicago Police resources from confirmed 911 emergencies and delays emergency response times.

By the end of the contract, Chicago will have spent nearly $50 million on ShotSpotter.

A Power Play?
Moore led the effort to take the battle over ShotSpotter to the ward-level with help from a SoundThinking lobbyist, who sent council members multiple drafts of an original and a substitute version of the order, according to emails uncovered by The Chicago Reader. Moore’s ward, which covers parts of Chicago Lawn, Marquette Park, Gresham, Auburn Gresham and West Englewood, currently has 80 ShotSpotter sensors, according to an analysis by The South Side Weekly, and saw 32 fatal shootings last year. Generally, Moore has framed his argument around the mayor’s use of power. At a meeting of the City Council Committee on Police and Fire on April 1, Moore described Johnson’s decision to end ShotSpotter as “unilateral.” (It’s worth noting that Mayor Rahm Emanuel didn’t seek city council approval before inking a $33 million deal with ShotSpotter in 2018. Neither did Mayor Lori Lightfoot when she extended the contract twice).

Moore has questioned the mayor’s choice to keep ShotSpotter active through the Democratic National Convention in August. “Either it works or it doesn’t,” Moore said. “And if it’s working for the DNC, then it needs to work for the constituents here in Chicago.”

Almanza is skeptical of this argument. “It wasn’t until this moment, where a Black mayor said we are going to cancel this contract that is harming Black and brown people, and then we are going to reinvest in these Black and brown communities, that these alders were all of a sudden interested in ShotSpotter,” Almanza said. “They’re doing this just out of a power play.”

In an email to The Trace, the mayor’s communications director, Ronnie Reese, wrote, “The contract remains cancelled [sic], and the DNC has no bearing on that decision.” 

Dick Simpson served as alderperson of the 44th Ward for eight years. Now a professor emeritus of political science at the University of Illinois Chicago, Simpson said that, because there’s no governmental process by which the City Council can force the mayor to sign a contract, Moore’s ordinance is symbolic.

“What they’re really arguing about is can the City Council require the mayor to get their approval to change this contract,” Simpson said. “They’re clearly trying to register their dissatisfaction with not only how he handled this particular tool, but with the crime level, overall.”

What Chicagoans Want
While the issue has become a power struggle within the City Council, it is very real to the Chicagoans who have to live with the problems that ShotSpotter is trying to solve. Maria Pike is a longtime gun violence prevention advocate. She sits on the board of Chicago Survivors and works with Moms Demand Action (Moms Demand Action is part of Everytown for Gun Safety, which provides financial grants to The Trace).

In August 2012, Pike’s eldest son, Ricky, was shot and killed outside his Logan Square apartment. Pike views ShotSpotter as a tool meant to help police solve shootings. She doesn’t understand the logic behind the push to remove it, because she believes that communities on the South and West Sides should be given more resources to respond to gun violence – not less.

Proponents like Pike share a common refrain: “If ShotSpotter saves one life,” she said, “ then it’s worth the millions of dollars.”

Navjot Heer, a #StopShotSpotter organizer, understands why people like Pike believe that ShotSpotter helps police do their jobs. “It’s frustrating that this company has been able to lie to folks and present itself as a solution to gun violence,” Heer said.

The #StopShotSpotter campaign has begun an ambitious canvassing effort on the South and West Sides to hear about alternative methods residents want to keep them safe.

“These communities and neighborhoods barely ever received investment from the city, so the removal of ShotSpotter has been perceived by many people as like taking away something from them. And that feels incredibly unjust and unfair,” Heer said. “Our responsibility is to show up, listen, and share more information about how this technology actually works or doesn’t work, so that we can arrive at solutions together.”

Justin Agrelo
Justin, a Chicago native, previously worked at City Bureau, a nonprofit civic media organization in Chicago, where he covered housing and development. He was also an editorial fellow for Mother Jones magazine, writing for and fact-checking the online and print editions. In 2019, he earned his Master’s of Science in journalism with a special focus on social justice and investigative reporting from Northwestern University’s Medill School of Journalism.


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The teenager has been charged with murder as an adult. More unusual is that his 54-year-old father, Colin Gray, has been charged with involuntary manslaughter, second degree murder and cruelty to children. If found guilty, he could spend the rest of his life in prison.

The U.S. has been mired for decades in a partisan gun debate that has stymied practical answers for school shootings. The Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to bear arms, and gun control has become a political and practical dead end.

But Americans are understandably frustrated, angry and searching for other ways to prevent mass murder, especially against children in schools. Holding parents criminally responsible for abuses by their children may make sense when the facts of a case demonstrate negligence or aiding or abetting the child’s commission of a crime.

Georgia authorities clearly feel they have enough facts to warrant a charge against Colin Gray. Colt and his father were interviewed by police in 2023 after the FBI received anonymous tips about “online threats to commit a school shooting” on the social-media platform Discord.

When police visited, the boy denied making the threats and said he had deleted his Discord account. Colin Gray told law enforcement that “he had hunting guns in the house, but the subject did not have unsupervised access to them,” according to a statement from the FBI.

Police say Colt nonetheless used an AR-15-style rifle, a gift from his father, in his school attack. Gray family members including the boy’s grandfather, Charlie Polhamus, have said since the attack that the family home was dysfunctional and Colt’s emotional turmoil was the result of verbal abuse. “He was just a good kid, but he lived in an environment that was hostile,” he said. While the boy will “pay the price” for the crime, “his dad is as guilty as Colt is.”

In April a jury in Michigan convicted parents Jennifer and James Crumbley after their son killed four students and wounded six others in 2021. The Crumbleys were prosecuted for being negligently indifferent to their son’s mental health while failing to secure family firearms. They received 10-year prison terms.

The Georgia facts will be tested in court, and it’s important that laws are written in a way that requires clear parental culpability. School shootings are horrific, and the public desire to cast blame can be strong. There needs to be evidence beyond guilt by parental association.

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A second useful focus has to be more school security, as some states and communities are doing. States including Pennsylvania, Texas and Michigan have funded security upgrades for school buildings. Utah in March allocated $100 million in one-time funding and $2.1 million in annual funding. In 2023 Georgia allocated $115 million in school security grants.

Security measures didn’t prevent the shooting this week, but they might next time. When the Georgia shooter returned to his algebra class with a gun, he was unable to enter because the door had locked automatically and a fellow student refused to open it. The shooter turned his bullets on students that were more easily accessible. Staff also used ID cards with emergency buttons that alerted police to an active threat at the school.

Many schools run safety drills that teach students how to behave in a crisis. That’s good, but schools also need to stop shooters before they get that far. States and school districts can standardize rules that limit school access to a single entry point by sealing and reinforcing other school doors.

Confronting a shooter who is attempting to enter the building is the best chance to prevent horrific loss. Campuses from elementary to high school may need to have an armed security guard or local police officer on duty during the school day. Bag checks are a reasonable measure for added safety.

It’s a tragedy that such security steps are needed, but the deeper causes of school shootings such as community and family dissolution will require a cultural renaissance. Social media’s bad effects also need to be countered.

But in the near term, increased security and law enforcement are essential, and tragically so is holding parents responsible when their children kill with guns that shouldn’t be in their possession




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Re: ATF/DOJ ask 3D industry to block homemade gun parts
« Reply #2595 on: September 17, 2024, 06:41:59 PM »


https://www.ammoland.com/2024/09/atf-and-doj-ask-3d-printing-industry-to-block-homemade-gun-parts/?utm_source=Ammoland+Subscribers&utm_campaign=7520fb127e-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-7520fb127e-7181749

… because preventing people from arranging ones and zeros into certain strings of data is so easy to accomplish and monitor.

But hey, they will doubtless content themselves with some ungainly regulation citizens will be hard pressed to understand they can use to end run constitutional protections, with pieces like this constituting the warning shot that is their goal.

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Gun sales to illegals in Ohio
« Reply #2596 on: September 18, 2024, 12:27:37 PM »
Odd looking woman:  Injected lips, major eyelashes  , , , Anyway, what actually is the law here?

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Re: Gun sales to illegals in Ohio
« Reply #2597 on: September 18, 2024, 12:57:43 PM »

Odd looking women:  Injected lips, major eyelashes  , , , Anyway, what actually is the law here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6BejxSb9jY&t=204s

ATF form 4473 asks if your are legally in the US. If not, no sale....

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Re: We the Well-armed People (gun and knife rights stuff ) Second Amendment
« Reply #2598 on: September 18, 2024, 01:47:21 PM »
Thank you.