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are republicans going to outlaw birth control?
« Reply #353 on: May 11, 2022, 11:15:26 AM »
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republicans-supreme-court-contraception_n_627ab11fe4b046ad0d829a0a

Oh God.

here we go..

Like Doug said he hopes they don't "overplay their hand"

of course the zealots will......

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Re: are republicans going to outlaw birth control?
« Reply #354 on: May 11, 2022, 01:48:12 PM »
No.

Huffpohysteria.

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republicans-supreme-court-contraception_n_627ab11fe4b046ad0d829a0a

Oh God.

here we go..

Like Doug said he hopes they don't "overplay their hand"

of course the zealots will......

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How did they know?
« Reply #355 on: May 13, 2022, 08:36:04 PM »

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Re: How did they know?
« Reply #356 on: May 13, 2022, 10:21:07 PM »
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too extreme
« Reply #357 on: May 15, 2022, 01:06:32 PM »

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Re: too extreme
« Reply #358 on: May 15, 2022, 01:48:20 PM »
How are we doing with the Mules and Dominion Voting machines?


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rape-victims-forced-rapist-baby-190834342.html

with this we lose the suburban moms yet again


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Oklahoma definition of life
« Reply #360 on: May 19, 2022, 02:56:02 PM »
I wonder if even the morning after pill is not going to be allowed

"What is ella?

****ella is an emergency contraceptive. It works by stopping or delaying the release of an egg from an ovary. Ulipristal may also make it harder for a fertilized egg to attach to the uterus.

ella is used to prevent pregnancy after having sex without using a condom or other effective birth control method. It is also used to prevent pregnancy after a regular form of birth control has failed. This medicine is not to be used as a regular form of daily, weekly, or monthly birth control.****

I can tell you now this will piss a LOT of women off

and some men too


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #361 on: May 19, 2022, 08:16:51 PM »
Seriously stupid.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #362 on: May 19, 2022, 08:26:58 PM »
Seriously stupid.

Are values supposed to matter, or is it all about political gamesmenship?


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #363 on: May 19, 2022, 08:42:17 PM »
Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.

Politics is the Art of the Possible and this standard will gravely damage our shot at the landslide election that we need.

Why on earth do they need to say this now?  Hard to think of something more likely to drive Dem turnout, not only in OK, but also nationwide.

I respect the Life begins at conception POV, but as a matter of putting the fifty years of culture war over this to bed, I'm thinking a twelve-week standard is something that could work.


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #364 on: May 19, 2022, 08:50:42 PM »
Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.

Politics is the Art of the Possible and this standard will gravely damage our shot at the landslide election that we need.

Why on earth do they need to say this now?  Hard to think of something more likely to drive Dem turnout, not only in OK, but also nationwide.

I respect the Life begins at conception POV, but as a matter of putting the fifty years of culture war over this to bed, I'm thinking a twelve-week standard is something that could work.

OK politicians are doing what the large majority of OK voters want.

Just like in California, the population is fine with stabbing a full term baby in the brain with a pair of scissors, so the law will reflect that there.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #365 on: May 20, 2022, 02:44:35 AM »
I get that and fair enough-- but wish they would have waited until after the elections.  This is going to drive Dem turnout out across the fifty states.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #366 on: May 20, 2022, 05:42:31 AM »
"I respect the Life begins at conception POV, but as a matter of putting the fifty years of culture war over this to bed, I'm thinking a twelve-week standard is something that could work"

I have thought about abortion for 40+ yrs
and could never come to any personal conclusion until recently

I agree with the above  after considering the moral ethical medical monetary practical and political concerns

I think this is what Justice Roberts was hoping to get as a compromise

this is not late term murder - sucking the brain out of a fetus' soft skull.


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #367 on: May 20, 2022, 05:52:31 AM »
Most Okies are pro life

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-oklahoma-abortion-ban-a-tipping-point-in-the-fight-against-roe-v-wade

but not clear to me if they mean from conception if asked specifically

like the girl, Artz 23 yo who grew up strict Catholic and was anti abortion then went to college felt out of place (and likely started fucking around) and then became pro choice.

I just remember in the 80's when some Republicans would say "this abortion thing is killing us".

we shall see

inflation problems may trump abortion , for now........ for '22......


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #368 on: May 20, 2022, 07:30:04 AM »
Most Okies are pro life

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/new-oklahoma-abortion-ban-a-tipping-point-in-the-fight-against-roe-v-wade

but not clear to me if they mean from conception if asked specifically

like the girl, Artz 23 yo who grew up strict Catholic and was anti abortion then went to college felt out of place (and likely started fucking around) and then became pro choice.

I just remember in the 80's when some Republicans would say "this abortion thing is killing us".

we shall see

inflation problems may trump abortion , for now........ for '22......

What does the science say? It's a life once the egg is fertilized.

A society that doesn't respect human life is headed down a dark path we have seen many times in history.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #369 on: May 20, 2022, 07:32:54 AM »
Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.

Politics is the Art of the Possible and this standard will gravely damage our shot at the landslide election that we need.

Why on earth do they need to say this now?  Hard to think of something more likely to drive Dem turnout, not only in OK, but also nationwide.

I respect the Life begins at conception POV, but as a matter of putting the fifty years of culture war over this to bed, I'm thinking a twelve-week standard is something that could work.

A landslide of failure theater RINOs? Is abortion going to motivate the vote mules and dominion machines?

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #370 on: May 20, 2022, 07:57:44 AM »
".A landslide of failure theater RINOs? Is abortion going to motivate the vote mules and dominion machines?"

no they are already motivated to make extra cash

it is the suburban

and college girls who may now be more motivated to turn out in droves

maybe ....

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #371 on: May 20, 2022, 08:05:43 AM »
The next pandemic will force more voting by mail, funny enough the dems will not be crushed...


".A landslide of failure theater RINOs? Is abortion going to motivate the vote mules and dominion machines?"

no they are already motivated to make extra cash

it is the suburban

and college girls who may now be more motivated to turn out in droves

maybe ....




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Re: Abortion
« Reply #375 on: June 15, 2022, 03:21:13 PM »
Perhaps well-armed Lifers will , , ,

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Roe overturned
« Reply #376 on: June 24, 2022, 07:54:27 AM »

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #377 on: June 24, 2022, 08:11:38 AM »
"Time to release the violent leftist paramilitaries!"

perhaps there is one silver lining in all this

this might get rid of 1/6/21
off the news now the LEFT has something else they can scream about.......

pro choice centers better secure the hatches and arm up....

will be an interesting summer watching unattractive young people protest.....
« Last Edit: June 24, 2022, 08:13:17 AM by ccp »

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Re: Roe overturned
« Reply #378 on: June 24, 2022, 12:33:29 PM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-roe-v-wade-asdf-right-abortion

Time to release the violent leftist paramilitaries!

Elections have consequences!

If you are not impressed with today's ruling, you are probably not a black baby fetus on death row.

One hell of a lot of election work and victories over an extended period went into this small step toward restoring the meaning of the constitution.

Roe v Wade has
been aborted in the 198th trimester.

https://babylonbee.com/news/roe-v-wade-aborted-in-198th-trimester?utm_source=The+Babylon+Bee+Newsletter&utm_campaign=db0c7319f8-Sponsored_Newsletter_6%2F24%2F22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_62f636e998-db0c7319f8-39963636&mc_cid=db0c7319f8
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Justice Roberts
« Reply #379 on: June 24, 2022, 01:21:08 PM »
I am glad about the ruling, and

I know it is blasphemy here  on this board, but personally I think the Roberts compromise was  reasonable.

I never minded  being an outlier

FWIW

we better not overplay our hand with contraception
now

that is nuts!

sorry I am not on board with that.

addendum

I am not on board with going back on gay marriage

I have accepted it
we need gays on our side
not alienate all of them.

« Last Edit: June 24, 2022, 02:01:01 PM by ccp »

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Re: Justice Roberts
« Reply #380 on: June 24, 2022, 06:41:49 PM »
(ccp) "We better not overplay our hand with contraception
that is nuts!"

  - Yes. Just a left wing invented straw man - until some activist gives it credibility.

There ARE unenumerated rights.  Killing your young wasn't one of them.


(ccp) "I am not on board with going back on gay marriage".
   - Agree.  That ship sailed.

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Re: Roe overturned
« Reply #382 on: June 24, 2022, 08:35:27 PM »
If you are impressed with this ruling, you don't understand that this is just a re-sorting of the deck chairs on the Titanic.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-roe-v-wade-asdf-right-abortion

Time to release the violent leftist paramilitaries!

Elections have consequences!

If you are not impressed with today's ruling, you are probably not a black baby fetus on death row.

One hell of a lot of election work and victories over an extended period went into this small step toward restoring the meaning of the constitution.

Roe v Wade has
been aborted in the 198th trimester.

https://babylonbee.com/news/roe-v-wade-aborted-in-198th-trimester?utm_source=The+Babylon+Bee+Newsletter&utm_campaign=db0c7319f8-Sponsored_Newsletter_6%2F24%2F22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_62f636e998-db0c7319f8-39963636&mc_cid=db0c7319f8

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Re: Roe overturned
« Reply #383 on: June 24, 2022, 09:00:11 PM »
https://media.gab.com/system/preview_cards/images/027/317/134/original/496ad3de2e58c972.jpeg



If you are impressed with this ruling, you don't understand that this is just a re-sorting of the deck chairs on the Titanic.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-roe-v-wade-asdf-right-abortion

Time to release the violent leftist paramilitaries!

Elections have consequences!

If you are not impressed with today's ruling, you are probably not a black baby fetus on death row.

One hell of a lot of election work and victories over an extended period went into this small step toward restoring the meaning of the constitution.

Roe v Wade has
been aborted in the 198th trimester.

https://babylonbee.com/news/roe-v-wade-aborted-in-198th-trimester?utm_source=The+Babylon+Bee+Newsletter&utm_campaign=db0c7319f8-Sponsored_Newsletter_6%2F24%2F22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_62f636e998-db0c7319f8-39963636&mc_cid=db0c7319f8

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #384 on: Today at 07:47:04 AM »
(ccp) "We better not overplay our hand with contraception
that is nuts!"

  - Yes. Just a left wing invented straw man - until some activist gives it credibility.

There ARE unenumerated rights.  Killing your young wasn't one of them.


(ccp) "I am not on board with going back on gay marriage".
   - Agree.  That ship sailed.


Is it true that Justice Thomas said we should revisit this ?

If he did he just awake the entire LEFT to total mass media blitz of this till the election and after

Sorry, I love Justice Thomas as much as anyone here , but of all the dumb shit things.....


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Re: Abortion
« Reply #385 on: Today at 07:48:23 AM »
Yes, we should cower before the left.


(ccp) "We better not overplay our hand with contraception
that is nuts!"

  - Yes. Just a left wing invented straw man - until some activist gives it credibility.

There ARE unenumerated rights.  Killing your young wasn't one of them.


(ccp) "I am not on board with going back on gay marriage".
   - Agree.  That ship sailed.


Is it true that Justice Thomas said we should revisit this ?

If he did he just awake the entire LEFT to total mass media blitz of this till the election and after

Sorry, I love Justice Thomas as much as anyone here , but of all the dumb shit things.....

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #386 on: Today at 09:18:43 AM »
ccp,  I do not believe Justice Thomas said that. I am open to being proven wrong on that. I'm traveling now but I read the entire draft opinion. There are words in there specifically saying this does not apply to other issues. This is about abortion and the jurisdiction of the Court versus the states and the legislatures.

To regulate preconception is an issue with a woman and her body. Abortion has a recognized competing interest involved. Big difference.
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #387 on: Today at 09:23:02 AM »
then he needs to come out and say "I did not say that and am not thinking that"

why remain silent if not true?