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DougMacG

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Re: US Economy, the stock market , and other investment/savings strategies
« Reply #1550 on: November 30, 2023, 05:44:27 AM »
"As noted by the IBD article posted recently on our forum, serious contradictions are to be found in our ability to pay for our debt and our continuing deficits AND take care of what needs doing.  This includes a dire need to reverse the declines in military spending for all the wars on the horizon."

Age old political dilemma, we need to drastically cut overall federal spending while seriously increasing military readiness.  How?

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« Reply #1551 on: December 06, 2023, 02:51:09 PM »
Oil below 70 today.  VIX in the 12s.

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« Reply #1552 on: December 06, 2023, 08:11:40 PM »
so what does this mean
low volatility
oil down

? buy oil?


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« Reply #1553 on: December 07, 2023, 01:53:24 AM »
Not sure!  Market seems surprisingly sanguine, while we were see possible armageddon.  Also worth noting is that gold is around $2050 and BTC is around 44.   I experience cognitive dissonance.

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« Reply #1554 on: December 07, 2023, 07:34:16 AM »
so what does this mean
low volatility
oil down

? buy oil?

VIX. "measures how much volatility professional investors think the S&P 500 index will experience over the next 30 days"

  - Not something I follow but it seems that stability, low volatility is good, high volatility bad.

Oil down can mean a number of things, global demand falling meaning global recession.  Could mean production increased with the recent spike in prices.  More importantly, one sign of things like food and production being more affordable going forward.

As mentioned, there are good and bad signs out there for investors and people who predict the near-term future of the economy.  ("cognitive dissonance")

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« Reply #1555 on: December 07, 2023, 08:52:44 AM »
"Not something I follow but it seems that stability, low volatility is good, high volatility bad."

Exactly how I understand the VIX.  So, given current circumstances it seems quite counterintuitive to me that it be quite low.  What am I missing?

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« Reply #1557 on: December 12, 2023, 10:06:43 AM »
Oil down to 68.

Gold drops below 2,000.

VIX now in the 11s.

All rather inconsistent with our notion here that the world is going to hell in a handbasket.

WTF?

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US Economy, stock market, Economist warns
« Reply #1559 on: April 21, 2024, 10:07:47 AM »
https://www.ft.com/content/53f64b6b-3151-46b3-ad83-3a4732c35d41?segmentId=b385c2ad-87ed-d8ff-aaec-0f8435cd42d9

 APRIL 19 2024

Noted economist Mohamed El-Erian hints that the markets ignoring escalating Middle East tensions may be missing potentially dire consequences.

"recent escalation of tensions between Iran and Israel...significant consequences not only for an already unstable Middle East but also for the wellbeing of the global economy and the stability of its financial system."

"the global economy ... is already too fragile to handle a large new economic shock. Specifically, a further round of military escalation between Iran and Israel would undermine already low and fragile global growth, push up goods inflation at a time when services inflation is still too high, and impose demands on fiscal and monetary authorities that have already used up much of their policy flexibility and have limited operating space."
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"First, two of the potential engines of global growth — the already-stressed Chinese and European economies — would be hit relatively hard given their high dependence on imported energy. 

Second, US inflation would prove even more stubborn at a time when progress in reducing price pressures has already disappointed this year, thereby acting as a bigger counter to early rate cuts by the Federal Reserve. 

Third, the strong dollar would get a further appreciation boost, undermining trade and financial intermediation.

And finally, with worsening economic and geopolitical situations, risk premia would increase. This would lead to higher borrowing costs than might have prevailed otherwise. "
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"There is no doubt that the latest round of Iran-Israel hostilities has crossed many lines and durably raised the geopolitical temperature in the region. Yet markets seem keen to brush this aside, comforted by the fact that we are yet to reach the boiling point of significant human casualties and physical damage in these retaliation rounds — a point that would cause significant economic and financial dislocations. Given that this is a region that is vulnerable to errors of judgment, insufficient understanding of adversaries, and implementation accidents, that could well prove too complacent a reaction."
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I would add this war conducted by the Houthis is already having an effect.
https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/analysis/the-houthis-and-the-red-sea-a-new-risk-to-subsea-cables/

Are ships that once passed through the Suez canal really going all the way around the Horn of Africa?  And Biden, NATO et al have no answer for it?

We live in a troubled world.  [Invest accordingly.]