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IC goes Woke
« Reply #800 on: August 18, 2024, 04:14:33 PM »
U.S. Intelligence Community Now Prioritizes 'Hurt Feelings' Over Counterterrorism
by A.J. Caschetta
Special to IPT News
August 18, 2024

https://www.investigativeproject.org/9372/us-intelligence-community-now-prioritizes-hurt

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FO on the leak of Israeli plans
« Reply #803 on: October 21, 2024, 09:05:18 AM »
(1) CLASSIFIED DOCS ON ISRAEL WAR PREPARATIONS LEAKED: House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) said an investigation is underway into the potential leak of classified National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and National Security Agency (NSA) analysis of Israeli military preparations for a strike on Iran.

Why It Matters: Multiple Biden officials and political appointees have expressed pro-Palestine and pro-Iranian sentiment, and some have resigned from cabinet agencies over the last year citing the Israeli military response to October 7th. It’s also possible that a member of the U.S. military with a Top Secret/SCI clearance leaked the documents. Officials remain concerned that other documents will be leaked. – R.C.

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Trump vs. the CIA
« Reply #804 on: October 23, 2024, 07:05:40 PM »

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FBI Stonewalls Elise Stefanic on Iran Hacks of Trump
« Reply #805 on: October 27, 2024, 12:54:50 PM »
Why is the FBI dodging on this? Could the type of (falsely) claimed collusion between Trump & Putin have actually occurred between Biden admin and Iran?

What Is the FBI Hiding About Iran?

The bureau has ignored my questions about its probe into Tehran’s malign effort at election interference.

By Elise Stefanik

Oct. 27, 2024 at 12:31 pm ET

In 2016, FBI Director James Comey failed to inform Congress about his unprecedented decision to open the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Crossfire Hurricane counterintelligence investigation into then-candidate Donald Trump. This was an egregious breach of protocol and a failure to comply with congressional oversight. It led to the unraveling of the infamous Russia hoax peddled by rogue intelligence agencies, the Democratic Party and their media stenographers.

In March 2017, as a brand-new member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, I posed straightforward questions to Mr. Comey at a public hearing about his failure to notify congressional leadership, which revealed a deeply politicized and weaponized FBI.

Today, on the eve of the presidential election, the FBI is doubling down on its politicization and corruption. As one of the few senior Intelligence Committee members who served through the sham impeachment that grew out of the collusion hoax, it is my duty to share with the American people what the FBI has failed to answer—and, I believe, is willfully covering up—about Iranian influence in the 2024 presidential election.

On Sept. 19, the FBI delivered its final pre-election closed briefing to the Intelligence Committee on foreign malign election interference. A day earlier, the Justice Department revealed that Iranian agents had hacked the Trump campaign.

I’ve been in enough high-profile oversight hearings to know that when witnesses squirm and refuse to answer questions, it usually means I’ve uncovered something concerning. At that briefing last month, after a long, panicked pause, the FBI promised to follow up with answers. The bureau obviously wanted my questions to go away and be forgotten. After the briefing, I wrote Director Christopher Wray requiring responses by Oct. 7.

The avoidance games continued. First, the bureau said it would deliver answers at an in-person briefing as demanded. Then it promised written answers, which it failed to provide. The FBI has now gone silent, ignoring the congressional questions. I believe it is because top FBI officials know the answers will be bombshells.

Here are my questions that the FBI is refusing to answer:

1. When and how did the FBI learn of the initial Iranian efforts targeting the Trump campaign? What individual(s) made the notification to the FBI? Who received the initial notification within the FBI?

2. When did the FBI provide notification to both presidential campaigns regarding Iran’s efforts targeting the Trump campaign?

3. When and how did the FBI become aware that Iran conducted a cyber operation into the Trump campaign and exfiltrated data?

4. Who informed the FBI of the cyber operation and who received the notification? Was the notification made by an entity or individual(s)?

5. When did the FBI notify both presidential campaigns that Iran carried out a cyber operation on the Trump campaign and successfully exfiltrated data?

6. Does the FBI consider this cyber hack election interference by a foreign government, and what remedy is available to counteract this attack?

7. Is there any intelligence that Iran carried out similar hacking activity on the Biden-Harris or Harris-Walz campaign?

8. When and how did the FBI become aware that material exfiltrated in the Iranian hacking operation of the Trump campaign was transmitted to an individual affiliated with the Biden or Harris campaign?

9. When and how did the FBI become aware that the hacked material from the Trump campaign was sent to the media?

10. What contact has the FBI had with the media regarding the publication of illegally hacked material? Which media outlets? What was the recommendation from the FBI to the media outlets regarding the hacked material?

11. Is the FBI aware of who is responsible for sending the hacked material to members of the media and the Biden or Harris campaign? If yes, who?

12. Did anyone on or associated with the Biden or Harris campaign contact the FBI, other law enforcement agencies, or anyone else in the intelligence community regarding the attempts by Iran to provide hacked Trump campaign materials? If so, what date did the Biden or Harris campaign make contact?

13. How did the FBI use the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act’s Section 702 in this case?

The FBI could easily and quickly answer these questions without impeding any investigation or revealing sources, methods or classified information. Its refusal to do so suggests it is hiding information that would reflect poorly on the FBI—perhaps an attempt to influence the election through when and whom it notified, or the complicity of Democratic presidential operatives in this foreign election interference.

On this issue of critical importance to the presidential election, the Intelligence Committee knows little more than the public does. We know Iranian hackers stole sensitive information from the Trump campaign and sent it to at least three people affiliated with Joe Biden’s campaign in June. We know Iranians also sent the stolen information to Politico, the Washington Post and the New York Times. We know Iran is plotting to assassinate Mr. Trump. We know the threat against his life is active and unresolved, despite the July arrest of a Pakistani national with ties to Iran in connection with that plot. We don’t know when or how the FBI became aware, or what and when its communication was with the Biden and Harris campaigns or the Biden administration.

I have seen the many ways anti-Trump political bias has corrupted the FBI’s decision making. As the Durham report confirmed, Crossfire Hurricane was an egregious and unlawful weaponization of power. It tarred President Trump’s first term with false accusations of Russian collusion. Then in 2020 the FBI attempted to subvert the democratic process yet again with its censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop story.

We don’t know for sure whether the FBI’s refusal to answer questions on the 2024 Iranian threat is another example of the bureau’s political bias at work, but given recent history, you’ll forgive my suspicion. I know a corrupt coverup when I see one.

It is Congress’s constitutional duty to hold the executive branch, including the FBI, accountable to the American people. We won’t tolerate a rogue FBI withholding information on an issue as important as this—a foreign enemy attempting to undermine, hack and kill the leading candidate for president.


Ms. Stefanik, a Republican, represents New York’s 21st Congressional District. She is chairman of the House Republican Conference and a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/what-is-the-fbi-hiding-about-iran-bureau-ignores-questions-election-interference-d06aa397?st=Si6tAn
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European Cargo Plane Fires Traced Back to Russia
« Reply #806 on: November 04, 2024, 05:18:46 PM »
Couldn’t find a better place to file this one and indeed think it’s something to file away and keep in mind if things get particularly frisky with Russia or indeed any foe that might also add magnesium to electrical devices being shipped via cargo or passenger plane:

According to an Exclusive Report from the Wall Street Journal; Western Security Officials believe that Two Incendiary Device which ignited at DHL Logistic Hubs in both Leipzig, Germany, and Birmingham, England back in July, were part of a Covert Operation by Russian Intelligence Services, aimed at starting Fires aboard Cargo and Passenger Flights to the United States and Canada. The Devices, which were determined to be Electric Massagers implanted with a Magnesium-Based Flammable Substance shipped from Lithuania, appear to have been a Test to figure out how to get similar Devices onboard Planes bound for North America. So far the Polish Security Service has Arrested a Group of Four Individuals, who are believed to have linked to the Plot, with them being Charged with Terrorist Operations on behalf of a Foreign Intelligence Agency; while Authorities across Europe are attempting to find at least two additional Suspects.

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1853497324284129578?s=61

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Re: Intel Matters
« Reply #807 on: November 05, 2024, 07:02:39 AM »
I too have noted this story and have pondered its implications.   That said my intuitive sense is that this is not quite the thread for it.

Maybe  , , , drum roll , , , a new thread?  Perhaps "Anonymous Full Spectrum War Methodology"? 


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Re: Intel Matters
« Reply #808 on: November 05, 2024, 07:32:44 AM »
I too have noted this story and have pondered its implications.   That said my intuitive sense is that this is not quite the thread for it.

Maybe  , , , drum roll , , , a new thread?  Perhaps "Anonymous Full Spectrum War Methodology"?

How ‘bout “Asymmetric, Next Gen, & Low Intensity Warfare?”

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Re: Intel Matters
« Reply #809 on: November 05, 2024, 09:25:46 AM »
I like that.

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Stratfor/Rane: Potential Politicization of Security Apparatus Part 2
« Reply #811 on: November 22, 2024, 02:54:25 PM »
As noted in my post just now in the Military thread, I am underwhelmed by the analysis here, though it does raise some fair points.

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The Potential Politicization of the U.S. Security Apparatus Under Trump, Part 2
Analysis
Nov 20, 2024 | 16:14 (UTC)
The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) logo is displayed in the lobby of the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.
(SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)
The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) logo is displayed in the lobby of the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.
Editor's Note: This two-part series explores the implications of the potential politicization of various parts of the U.S. government under a second Trump administration. Part 2 focuses on the U.S. Intelligence Community. Part 1, which focuses on the U.S. military, can be found here.

Amid intense scrutiny of former President Donald Trump's nominations for Cabinet-level and other senior positions, his picks to oversee the agencies of the U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) have raised particularly acute concerns over politicization. With the exceptions of former Congressman John Ratcliffe, who served as Director of National Intelligence (DNI) at the end of Trump's first term and who Trump has now nominated to lead the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), as well as Senator Marco Rubio, nominated to lead the Department of State (which includes the Bureau of Intelligence and Research), other nominees have little to no serious background in intelligence or national security more broadly. These include former Congresswoman and veteran Tulsi Gabbard, nominated to be Director of National Intelligence, Governor Kristi Noem, nominated to lead the Department of Homeland Security; Fox News host and veteran Pete Hegseth, nominated to lead the Department of Defense (which oversees multiple military intelligence agencies); and Congressman Matt Gaetz nominated to lead the Department of Justice (which includes the Federal Bureau of Investigation, whose director's fate is unknown).

Of course, every president has the right to choose leaders with whom he has close relationships and deep trust, and Trump is hardly unique in being accused of installing friends into positions of power. But although every presidential administration exerts some degree of political influence over intelligence agencies, at a minimum it is traditional for those selected to senior posts in the USIC to have relevant expertise and are generally seen as nonpartisan, given that the work of intelligence agencies has historically been considered as so important to be above politics. Trump, by contrast, appears to be elevating fierce loyalists whose main qualifications are ideological alignment, not experience, and who in some cases have directly maligned the work of the USIC. While Trump's nominees, assuming the Senate confirms them, may not end up being as political as feared, and though there are significant institutional barriers to widespread politicization, the mere possibility that the USIC is at risk of being politicized opens the door to harmful consequences for U.S. national security and that of U.S. allies and partners.

Truth to Power
The official mission of the USIC includes the mandate to provide ''timely, rigorous, apolitical and insightful intelligence,'' with the third word in that list demonstrating the importance of staying above the political fray. Staying nonpartisan is crucial for a variety of reasons, not least because the analytic judgments intelligence agencies make are meant to assess the world as it is, not as political leaders want it to be. In the worst case, top officials exert pressure, implicitly or explicitly, on intelligence agencies to conform their findings to fit partisan policy preferences, leading intelligence analysts to slant their assessments toward what they think decision-makers want to hear. This was infamously observed in the run-up to the Iraq War, when analysts felt heavily pressured to align their findings with the convictions of key Bush administration officials that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. Similar incidents have occurred throughout U.S. history. This includes during the Vietnam War, when it has since been uncovered that members of the Johnson administration heavily pressured intelligence analysts to undercount the number of Vietnamese forces and overcount their number of casualties. More recently, in the mid-2010s, analysts at U.S. Central Command also went public with allegations that their supervisors had changed their analytic judgments to portray a more optimistic picture of the military campaign against the Islamic State that the Obama administration was carrying out.

While deliberately adjusting intelligence to fit a particular viewpoint is the most egregious way in which politicization can undermine the work of the USIC, there are several others. For instance, while analysts may not purposefully change their findings, they may simply self-censor. Rather than presenting intelligence at odds with the opinions of top officials, analysts water down their assessments or merely ignore covering topics to avoid retaliation or irrelevance. In other cases, officials cherry-pick intelligence that conforms to their worldview and ignore intelligence that is in conflict. In some cases, officials may even cherry-pick the work of entire agencies over that of others. While decision-makers are completely justified in relying on some of the USIC's 18 agencies over others, ignoring politically inconvenient assessments from one agency in favor of politically favorable ones from another sends a clear message.

There are also a host of ways in which top leaders can introduce politics into the USIC separate from the analytic process. This comes chiefly through their rhetoric. For instance, in 1993, President Bill Clinton publicly attacked a leaked CIA assessment that portrayed Haitian President Jean Aristede, a key U.S. partner, as a mentally unstable despot. Clinton's critique led the chief of the CIA's analytic division to conduct a large internal restructuring and reportedly to tell analysts that ''if they give a briefing [that] deviates too much from official policy, they may be accused by Clinton administration officials of being disloyal.'' It is healthy for decision-makers to be skeptical of intelligence; after all, there is always uncertainty in the spy world. But it is quite another to create a public impression that it is not safe for analysts to speak truth to power.

MAGA-INT
As this brief list of historical examples illustrates, politicization is always somewhat present in the USIC and every presidential administration has to some degree introduced its own biases into the work of the country's intelligence apparatus. Nonetheless, Trump's first term in office offers numerous examples of his personal disregard, and that of other top officials in his former administration, for the barrier that is supposed to separate intelligence from policymaking. Indeed, a seminal RAND study, released in February 2024, into the politicization of the USIC found that while every White House bears some responsibility, ''Under President Trump, the distortion of intelligence and truth seems to have risen to new heights.'' According to the report's authors, and supported by many other sources, the Trump administration distorted intelligence on myriad issues to an unprecedented level and did so in much more open ways by, among other things, portraying dissenters as ''deep state'' enemies, publicly questioning intelligence findings, firing uncooperative officials and routinely warping intelligence to support policy preferences. To quote the RAND authors, ''no other administration has used and abused intelligence to the same degree or with the same motives.''

It is with this in mind that Trump's second term, especially with his USIC nominees so far, is raising such concerns. Certainly, we should never assume that the past is prologue and, even if there is intent to politicize, the USIC has many safeguards against wholesale politicization. These include its vast size (comprising 18 diverse agencies, it is hard to change the entire bureaucracy), legally mandated oversight by both Congress (and to a lesser extent the courts), independent oversight and investigatory bodies, and analytic standards that prioritize objectivity. The dramatic increase in open-source intelligence, for better or worse, also provides a public check on the classified work of the USIC. Nonetheless, it is incumbent upon us as analysts to consider how a more politicized USIC could come to pass in the next four years, especially considering that Trump, many of his top advisors and the nominees to lead parts of the USIC have all been very transparent of their skepticism, if not outright disdain, for parts of the USIC.

As with all organizations, the tone set at the top is key, which is why nominating people like Gabbard and Noem, and to a lesser extent Ratcliffe, has set off alarm bells even among some Republicans. Neither Gabbard nor Noem — tapped as Director of National Intelligence and Secretary of Homeland Security, respectively — has any relevant national security experience. But as DNI, Gabbard — who has repeatedly and publicly spurned the USIC's work and embraced beliefs that are at odds with widespread intelligence assessments — would be charged with leading a massive enterprise and an approximately $100 billion budget. Noem, for her part, would likely mainly focus on carrying out Trump's ambitious mass deportation policy, but DHS's Office of Intelligence and Analysis is a key USIC member that focuses on homeland threats, and is the lead agency for the federal government's coordination with local and state partners. This means that any politicization of intelligence could have wide ripple effects. Finally, Ratcliffe — who has been nominated to lead the CIA — has some experience after serving for a few months as DNI at the tail end of Trump's first term, but he also faced criticism, including from some Republicans, for numerous actions seemingly motivated by domestic politics, not unbiased intelligence analysis.

On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly pledged to purge what he described as disloyal USIC employees, and with these and likely other loyalists in top USIC posts, he would have ideologically committed allies to do so. Even if mass firings are unlikely (after all, there are significant bureaucratic challenges to doing so when there are so many diverse agencies employing tens of thousands of people), there are many ways in which these politicized USIC leaders could bring politics more deeply into the USIC, including by naming similarly minded officials to deputy-level jobs, threatening the jobs of officials who did not sufficiently conform and sidelining those who did not. Politicized USIC leaders could also introduce more partisanship into the intelligence apparatus in subtler ways, ranging from setting biased intelligence collection requirements designed to serve policy goals to abusing the analytic review process to weed out or water down assessments at odds with the administration's agenda. And with a Republican-led Congress and the president's ability to dismiss or sideline officials in charge of USIC oversight (as Trump did in April 2020 in firing the USIC Inspector General), there are additional means to introduce politicization, or at least weaken the checks on it.

Impacts at Home and Abroad
Of greatest concern, a more politicized USIC would risk eroding what are supposed to be apolitical assessments that agencies provide to top decision-makers. Rather than presenting unbiased findings, top officials would face greater pressure to adapt their respective agency's findings to fit the administration's policy preferences. This could introduce significant biases across a wide range of issues, including relations with key foreign states, both traditional allies and partners (like European countries), as well as traditional rivals and adversaries (like China, Iran and Russia). Moreover, transnational issues like migration and climate change could be reframed in more partisan lights. For an administration inheriting a volatile world, including multiple ongoing conflicts, any erosion of nonpartisan intelligence could be very harmful.

Moreover, even if politicization is more likely to affect the upper ranks of the USIC, it could easily trickle down to the more junior line analysts, team managers and others who are much more intimately involved in producing intelligence assessments. And should there be transparent and repeated efforts to politicize intelligence, it would certainly be demotivating for more junior personnel and risk ultimately eroding morale and the quality of their work. In the extreme, it could also incentivize more experienced personnel to leave and result in more unauthorized leaks from those who remain but believe the truth is being hidden or manipulated.

Additionally, politicization would introduce risks for U.S. allies and partners abroad. First, from the U.S. perspective, a more political USIC may be a less generous one. As the Western world's largest spying apparatus, the USIC plays a special role in providing many countries with intelligence on mutual threats. However, a USIC in which partisan politics play a larger role could also be one in which sharing information dwindles, or at least changes, in some cases. For instance, one can easily imagine a scenario in which the administration's trade disputes with various countries or exhortations to raise defense spending could result in directives to hold back certain pieces of intelligence as a form of coercion, especially given Trump's frequent criticism of countries allegedly taking advantage of, or free-riding on, the United States. One can also imagine how intelligence sharing could change; for instance by prioritizing information about certain threats (e.g. Iran) over others (e.g. Russia), ultimately leaving allies and partners with a slanted view.

On the flip side, politicization could also see U.S. allies and partners cut back on how much intelligence they share with the United States, either for fear the information would be manipulated or publicly disclosed to serve partisan ends, or potentially in retaliation if the United States restricts sharing. There is a recent precedent for this: between late 2017 and mid-2019, multiple Western spy agencies reportedly cut off intelligence sharing with Austria due to fears that the then-far-right government was too cozy with Russia, whose spies had infiltrated Austria's security services. While the USIC is impressive in its capabilities, part of its strength is due to its many intelligence-sharing relationships, especially in certain parts of the world where it heavily relies on local spying agencies with much more resources. Though wholesale drawdowns in intelligence-sharing are improbable, even a small reduction in allies and partners sharing sensitive information about certain threats (like Russia) could be damaging.

If You Break It, Who Buys It?
To be sure, none of these impacts is guaranteed to occur in the next four years, as it is an open question whether the Trump team has both the intent and capability to more aggressively politicize the USIC. Nonetheless, the rhetoric and actions seen thus far suggest that the prospect of greater politicization is at least on the table and thus must be considered. While the USIC has survived periods of greater political influence before and the massive enterprise has plenty of bureaucratic checks to prevent the complete takeover by one party over another, the scope of potential harm is vast and could well outlast a Trump administration. Because the spy world inherently deals in uncertainty, it relies on a great deal of trust — both at home among its personnel and customers in government, and abroad among U.S. allies and partners. But trust is fragile, and thus any more intense bouts of politicization in the next four years may reverberate for a long time after it, especially if another Republican administration doubles down on politicization or the pendulum swings the other way should the Democrats take power.

While any hint of politicization would be cause for concern at any time, the prospect is especially worrisome now as the United States and its allies and partners face an increasingly volatile world in which their ability to control events is rapidly declining. As such, the importance of ''timely, rigorous, apolitical, and insightful intelligence,'' to quote the USIC's mission, is arguably more important than it has been in many years. As a result, any potential weakening of the USIC, even if only on the margins, risks undermining one of the most important components of U.S. national security, and that of many allies and partners

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Pompeo: China's espionage campaign against the West
« Reply #815 on: January 12, 2025, 06:07:34 PM »


Beijing’s Espionage Campaign Against the West
The recent Treasury Department breach is the latest example of China’s strategic plan to destabilize the free world.
By Mike Pompeo
Jan. 12, 2025 4:02 pm ET

When a state-sponsored Chinese hacker breached the Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control, it allowed the Communist Party to access sensitive information with significant strategic implications. It’s the latest example of Beijing’s espionage campaign against the West, which runs deeper and is far more dangerous than the Soviet efforts of the 20th century.

While leading America’s clandestine operations and diplomacy during the first Trump term, I got a front-row seat to these undercover activities. Judging from publicly available information, these efforts have accelerated over the past four years. The Chinese Communist Party is already deep inside our critical networks and infrastructure—a consequence of a dangerous gap in our national security that imperils Americans and heightens the risk of war.

For too long, the U.S. has underestimated the scale of and risks associated with Beijing’s covert operations. Recent examples illuminate the seriousness of the threat: Chinese-sponsored hackers allegedly compromised American telecommunication networks during the 2024 presidential campaign, targeting the phones of Trump and Harris campaign affiliates. It also recently came to light that a state-sponsored Chinese hacking group dubbed Volt Typhoon embedded malware in critical infrastructure in Guam, which would enable China to disrupt communications between the U.S. and Asia in the event of a conflict over Taiwan. The same group also infiltrated sensitive U.S. military networks in Guam.

Today, Chinese state-sponsored hackers outnumber the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s cyber personnel by at least 50 to 1, according to FBI Director Christopher Wray. These groups regularly target vital American databases, government agencies and critical infrastructure. The Chinese Communist Party has built a vast influence network across the U.S. by bribing and threatening American citizens to advance its malign objectives.

These attacks are part of a strategic effort to destabilize the West and prepare Beijing for war. The Biden administration’s failure to acknowledge this risk and counter it effectively has given China more political power abroad and heightened the risk of a wider conflict. To protect America, the Trump administration must develop counterintelligence capacity and counterespionage efforts at a scale large enough to defend against the Chinese Communist Party’s threat.

U.S. federal and state officials should demand reciprocity in the relationship with China. If U.S. entities are barred from investing in areas China deems a national-security risk, we shouldn’t allow China to invest in areas that could pose a risk to us—such as Chinese entities buying land near our military bases. If U.S. firms must consent to technology transfers and party oversight to do business in China, Chinese firms shouldn’t be able to do business here without more oversight. If our diplomats can’t freely and privately communicate with Chinese citizens, we shouldn’t tolerate Chinese officials doing so with U.S. citizens. If fewer than 1,000 American students study at Chinese universities annually, we shouldn’t grant visas to nearly 300,000 students from China—especially when some of them engage in scientific espionage, intellectual-property theft and other hostile activities.

The Biden administration in 2022 foolishly shut down the China Initiative, an anti-espionage program started in the first Trump term to counter the malign Chinese activities within our borders. Mr. Trump should revive this program on day one of his second presidency.

His administration should also recognize that a fragile Chinese economy, coupled with Xi Jinping’s increasingly draconian policies, will expand the number of disaffected Chinese nationals willing to work with the U.S. to undermine the Communist Party. China is willing to commit massive resources to develop influence networks inside its adversary’s borders, and we must be prepared to do the same.

The idea that America’s relationship with China should be based on mutual understanding and fair competition is naive. It gives the Communist Party all the room it needs to infiltrate our government and society. The U.S. will be secure only if we acknowledge Beijing’s ideological hostility toward America and its desire to supplant us as the pre-eminent world power. We should take the Chinese threat at least as seriously as we took the Soviet threat in the Cold War. It’s time for Washington to engage seriously in a conflict Beijing knows has already begun.

Mr. Pompeo served as director of the Central Intelligence Agency, 2017-18, and secretary of state, 2018-21

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Re: Intel Matters
« Reply #816 on: January 12, 2025, 06:56:29 PM »
"Chinese state-sponsored hackers outnumber the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s cyber personnel by at least 50 to 1, according to FBI Director Christopher Wray."

one can only image huge armies of black haired clones pecking key boards working out ways to shut our nation down with the flick of a few key strokes .

We need to rid of TikTok  period.  SCOTUS will balk and chicken out.  Mark my words . 

What really bothers me is Pompeo saying that Biden and his merry crew of Obamsters continued to underestimate the threat.

Only at the very end they scoured around the world to other Asian nations to get some sort of alliance against the threat . 

And that little prick Sullivan has the gall to tell us how we are more secure then before.

It is amazing how so many people don't get it with the CCP Chinese.

I was reading a thread on yahoo posts and so many Americans are so convinced the CCP threat is exagerrated .   That the threat was exaggerated with Saddam with the Russia beating Ukraine in 2 weeks and so they think the CCP threat is a charade by the military industrial complex to get more money.

Just like in VDHs book.  Civilizations get wiped out by poo pooing the threats against them.

 

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USAID a CIA slush fund
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Tulsi on Jesse Waters:
« Reply #822 on: March 11, 2025, 06:24:08 AM »


Director of DNI Tulsi Gabbard reacts to reports that fired CIA employees are going to retaliate by selling secrets to our enemies:

Jesse Waters: "There's going to be a lot of housecleaning because now we're hearing CIA agents don't like getting dosed, so they're going to sell state secrets to our enemies? What are we going to do here?"

Gabbard: "I am curious about how they think this is a good tactic to keep their job. They're exposing themselves essentially by making this indirect threat using their propaganda arm through CNN that they've used over and over and over again to reveal their hand. Their loyalty is not at all to America, it is not to the American people or the Constitution, it is to themselves. And these are exactly the kind of people that we need to root out, get rid of, so that the patriots who do work in this area, who are committed to our core mission, can actually focus on that."

"I’ve got to tell you, one of the byproducts of what I just saw literally today is because of this immediate action of transparency and accountability, I have people within the intelligence community reaching out to me personally and directly, saying, 'Hey, you need to know about this. You need to look over here.' People are stepping forward because they are all on board with the mission to clean house and refocus on our core mission of serving the American people."

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« Reply #823 on: March 11, 2025, 06:33:17 AM »
"There's going to be a lot of housecleaning because now we're hearing CIA agents don't like getting dosed, so they're going to sell state secrets to our enemies? What are we going to do here?"

We need to bring back capital punishment for traitors .

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Perkins Coie sues to get security clearances back
« Reply #824 on: March 12, 2025, 06:21:29 AM »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/law-firm-sues-over-trump-executive-order-that-seeks-to-suspend-security-clearances/ar-AA1AIMzx?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=e7832b134bc640408e3193f23b32ae6d&ei=18

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March 10th, 2025: President Trump delivered a heavy blow to the Democrat party lawfare machine known as Perkins Coie by signing an order that stripped security clearances from the lawyers working at that infamous “law firm.”

People who remember the hoaxes and scandals created by Democrats in the first Trump Administration might recall that Perkins Coie was found to have a FBI secure information facility (SCIF) inside its offices — leading to the obvious conclusion that the Democrat Party virtually controlled the nation’s top law enforcement agency for a number of years.

That’s how badly America’s federal government was weaponized against President Trump.
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How Should Trump Release Buried Deep State Secrets?
« Reply #826 on: March 13, 2025, 08:25:28 AM »
How best to release classified materials our federal overlords have been sitting on is the topic here. My bet is the subtext is the message: if the sort of foul deeds that are likely to be revealed could occur back in the in the idealized ‘60s, imagine what wretched misdeeds the Deep State sees as fine and dandy so long as they maintain power are currently embraced … such as stealing elections, using a lab-created virus as an excuse to usurp civil liberties among other, ah, ills, shoveling tax dollars under the table at shady organizations seeking in-American ends, and so on. How these revelations are handled will reveal a lot about how Trump’s long game will be played:

The Process President Trump Can Use to Release ANY Information, Regardless of Classification Level

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MAR 13, 2025

The President of the United States is recognized in the U.S. Constitution as a person; the ultimate control authority within the Executive Branch of Government. President Donald J Trump is that person.

I am citing two examples below; however, the same approach applies to any information President Trump would want to release to the general public. There is absolutely no way for the Administrative State to block or impede this approach.


Dear Mr. President and White House counsel:

Understanding the ordinary process of declassifying documents or releasing information is a request and authorization to the executive officers and stakeholders of classified information. And understanding the current authorization or request for information is not ordinary because the intelligence community stakeholders and Washington DC are averse to the interests of the office of the president; here is a process to cut through the chaff and countermeasures.

The background here is that any unilateral declassification request, demand or authorization by President Trump puts him opposition to a variety of corrupt interests.

As a direct result the executive office of the president will be facing legal action, likely from unified democrats and republicans in the legislative branch. With that accepted, here is the most strategic approach.

In anticipation of litigation:

President Trump informs the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, that he wishes to have a full intelligence briefing on the following documents (more may be added), all documents are to be presented without a single redaction:

The full and complete records relating to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

The full and complete records relating to the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy and the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

The President selects a date for this briefing and through direct orders to his chief of staff, Susie Wiles and National Security Advisor, Mike Waltz, informs the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, to advise and coordinate with all executive branch intelligence officials, who were/are stakeholders in the compartmented intelligence products as described above, of their request be present for the briefing.

The White House counsel’s office is not to be informed of the intent or purpose of the meeting; however, the Presidents’ White House counsel is requested to attend. Further, all of the compartmented intelligence is to be collectively assembled by the ODNI (Gabbard) into one volume of a singular Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) although each set might be file boxes. There are to be eighteen printed copies of the PDB material assembled and secured for the briefing, post haste.

Additionally, the office of the president personally informs the ODNI (Gabbard) of the executives’ request to invite for the briefing each member of the legislative branch Intelligence Community oversight known as the Gang-of-Eight.

Immediately after the briefing by the executive level (cabinet) department officials, while remaining in a closed and classified session, the full and comprehensive content of this collective intelligence product will be discussed with the full assembly of the U.S. Legislative Branch Intelligence Oversight known as the Gang of Eight.


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Therefore, National Security Advisor Mike Waltz is instructed to coordinate with the ODNI (Gabbard) for the attendance of the Gang of Eight: Speaker Mike Johnson, Minority leader Hakeem Jeffries, HPSCI Chairman Rick Crawford, HPSCI Ranking Member Jim Himes, Senate Majority Leader John Thune, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, SSCI Chairman Tom Cotton and SSCI Vice-Chair Mark Warner. [Topic “TBD”]

In order to facilitate the briefing. Each member of the participating group will be provided with one full printed copy of the material assembled by the ODNI during the briefing.

[Each of the participants carries the prerequisite clearances, legal and constitutional authority to engage with the classified documents according to their position and status. Only the executive can assemble the product for Go8 review and feedback]

At the conclusion of the briefing; and after hearing from, and engagement with, each of the participating members of the executive intelligence offices and duly authorized legislative oversight representatives; and after listening to their opinion as to the subject material discussed; the president announces to the fully assembled leadership of both the Executive branch (cabinet) and Legislative branch (Go8), it is his opinion the National Interests of the United States can best be served with the American people having a full, transparent and honest review of the material assembled and discussed.

The President, no-one else, only the President, [with his affirmed constitutional power and protection – as acting within his official duty] then collects the printed portfolios [or boxes] as they were distributed to the participants, exits the briefing, and walks directly into the James Brady press briefing room within the White House; handing each of the awaiting twelve members of the national media a copy of the briefing material to be published on behalf of the American people.

At exactly the same time as President Trump enters the briefing room, one copy of the assembled portfolio is hand delivered, by President Trump only, to White House communications director with instructions to scan and release the content to the public through the White House website.

Done.

The American people are aware….

https://conservativetreehouse.org/p/the-process-president-trump-can-use

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« Reply #827 on: March 17, 2025, 08:02:53 AM »
(4) GABBARD ANNOUNCES PROBE INTO INTEL COMMUNITY LEAKS: Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Tulsi Gabbard announced investigations into leaks from within the U.S. intelligence community, citing leaks to media outlets on Israel and Iran, the U.S.-Russia relationship, and activities within the intelligence community.

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Donald “Mongoose” Trump, the Cryogenic Kennedy
« Reply #828 on: March 20, 2025, 06:03:08 PM »
Some interesting speculation re the recent Kennedy files release, the nefarious CIA/DoD schemes found in them, combined with speculation that the historical schemes dripping out here are part of a strategy that will culminate in, if not more contemporaneous revelations of the dire inner workings of the Deep State, at least prepping the battle space to such a degree that blogger and perhaps even the legacy media start taking a hard look at the data and then issuing conjectures from there.

This piece is the third and final offering in today’s Coffee & Covid post, though the previous two are worth reading, too:

It was perfectly understandable that the rancorous chatter over the newly disclosed JFK files continued all day yesterday. But out of the clamor, a new possibility began to emerge; the possibility that the real goal of the disclosures wasn’t to identify JFK’s killer, but to finish what the beloved 1960’s president started— scattering the intelligence agencies to the wind. (Hat tip to Clandestine, the independent researcher who first broke the Ukraine biolabs story.)

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The CIA fired up Operation Mongoose in 1961, right after its failed Bay of Pigs invasion. We’ll get that porky dictator! Aimed at destabilizing Cuba, the program included sabotage, economic warfare, assassination attempts, psyops, political subversion, covert paramilitary operations, and fantastically illegal false flags.

By 1963, disgusted by Mongoose, President Kennedy had firmly decided to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.” And then, he was dead. Never mind!

We knew some details, thanks to a previous 1999 partial declassification. Some of the CIA’s proposed false flag operations, for example, included plans to stage fake terrorist attacks on American civilians and other military targets, including in Florida, to be blamed on Cuban nationalists.

Kennedy was outraged by the suggestions and ultimately removed CIA Chief Allan Dulles, who designed Operation Mongoose, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who’d signed off on it.

This week’s newly disclosed, unredacted JFK files included a batch of new, never-before-seen documents related to Operation Mongoose. One document that understandably caught Clandestine’s attention included details about biological attacks. The document was titled, “Minutes of the Meeting of the Special Group on Mongoose 6 Sep 1962.”

Starting in paragraph number 4, a “General Carter” mentioned “agricultural sabotage.” Let’s just soak in the awful ramifications of that banal term, agricultural sabotage, which can only mean starving civilians to death to further military-political objectives. In case anyone needs to hear it, starving innocent civilians is not okay. In terms progressives can understand, we didn’t vote for that.

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Paragraph four also noted General Carter’s objection, which were “the disastrous results if something went wrong, particularly if there were obvious attribution to the U.S.” Meaning, he was worried somebody would find out what they did. But, General Carter reassured the room, “it would be possible to accomplish this purpose of agricultural sabotage— by methods more subtle than those indicated in the paper.”

A “Mr. Bundy” (presumably, not the serial killer Ted Bundy, but who knows) chimed in. Bundy “said that he had no worries about any such sabotage, which could clearly be” blamed on somebody else, like the Cubans. Mr. Bundy cautioned that America should avoid obvious things like chemical releases. That is, “unless they could be completely covered up.”

General Carter brought up a brilliant and very specific idea. “He mentioned specifically the possibility of producing crop failures by the introduction of biological agents which would appear to be of national origin.”

Wait, what??

They should have called it “Operation Not Our Fault.” Instead of debating the morality of forced starvation through covert biological warfare, they were only worried about the optics.

I feel inclined to pen a fulsome and very sarcastic essay about Cold War era biological operations, which previously were only the fodder of kooky anti-CIA conspiracy theories. (Now confirmed, of course, as fact.) I have many questions. Where would the “biological agents” come from? Who was developing them? How much of this was — and is — going on? Who are these insane Stanley Kubrick-style cartoon villains working for CIA and dreaming up this kind of uncontrolled evil? Why have they lied about it all these years?

Does anybody who works for the government ever get in trouble for lying?

And … starvation of noncombatant civilians through covert biological attacks? What. On. Earth.

And of course … was covid a “biological agent” designed as a “subtle” way to “accomplish the purpose” of killing civilians? Was it supposed to happen in a way that “could be completely covered up?” Was covid designed to “appear to be of national origin” from China?

I pause, unable to withhold this comment, to note that destroying people’s crops is not clever. It’s not high-tech. It’s not spycraft. It’s not progress through peaceful means. It doesn’t take highly-skilled experts and supertrained spooks to dream up nightmarish ideas like this.

Rather, it only requires merciless brutality and ruthless amorality.

No wonder Kennedy wanted to scatter the intelligence agencies to the wind. It’s too bad he became the accidental victim of a rogue, lone gunman who used to be on CIA’s payroll and totally worked alone. ALL ALONE, never forget. (Coincidentally, just like Trump assassin Thomas Crooks. Just saying.)

But for today, let’s set all that aside. Let’s consider just the contemporaneous ramifications. Could this kind of quietly explosive material be the real reason for the releases? Could there be a much bigger goal than just exposing one dark secret (that can never be exposed)? Could all these unredacted CIA breadcrumbs —and the frightful fury arising from them— cause an inevitable collapse of the intelligence agencies?

Will Kennedy finally achieve his revenge— from beyond the grave?

Short of destroying them, could President Trump be disciplining the intelligence agencies, by slowly slipping out their secrets, one by one, starting with the oldest and therefore least objectionable ones? I mean, why should Operation Mongoose remain classified? The Soviet Union is a historical footnote. Cuba is no geopolitical threat. It’s a cruise-ship comedian’s punchline.

If Trump is using these disclosures to initiate the intelligence agencies’ controlled demolition, it would be the longest, slowest burn of political payback in history—JFK’s revenge served not just cold, but cryogenically frozen and thawed out decades later for maximum effect.


The intelligence agencies built their Babylonic Tower of Power from bricks of secrecy. Trump is weaponizing their own secrets against them. If I’m right, it would be the most karmically delicious reversal in modern history.

Who’s the mongoose now? President Trump is the mongoose.


It was perfectly understandable that the rancorous chatter over the newly disclosed JFK files continued all day yesterday. But out of the clamor, a new possibility began to emerge; the possibility that the real goal of the disclosures wasn’t to identify JFK’s killer, but to finish what the beloved 1960’s president started— scattering the intelligence agencies to the wind. (Hat tip to Clandestine, the independent researcher who first broke the Ukraine biolabs story.)

image 5.png
The CIA fired up Operation Mongoose in 1961, right after its failed Bay of Pigs invasion. We’ll get that porky dictator! Aimed at destabilizing Cuba, the program included sabotage, economic warfare, assassination attempts, psyops, political subversion, covert paramilitary operations, and fantastically illegal false flags.

By 1963, disgusted by Mongoose, President Kennedy had firmly decided to “splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.” And then, he was dead. Never mind!

We knew some details, thanks to a previous 1999 partial declassification. Some of the CIA’s proposed false flag operations, for example, included plans to stage fake terrorist attacks on American civilians and other military targets, including in Florida, to be blamed on Cuban nationalists.

Kennedy was outraged by the suggestions and ultimately removed CIA Chief Allan Dulles, who designed Operation Mongoose, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who’d signed off on it.

This week’s newly disclosed, unredacted JFK files included a batch of new, never-before-seen documents related to Operation Mongoose. One document that understandably caught Clandestine’s attention included details about biological attacks. The document was titled, “Minutes of the Meeting of the Special Group on Mongoose 6 Sep 1962.”

Starting in paragraph number 4, a “General Carter” mentioned “agricultural sabotage.” Let’s just soak in the awful ramifications of that banal term, agricultural sabotage, which can only mean starving civilians to death to further military-political objectives. In case anyone needs to hear it, starving innocent civilians is not okay. In terms progressives can understand, we didn’t vote for that.

image 6.png
Paragraph four also noted General Carter’s objection, which were “the disastrous results if something went wrong, particularly if there were obvious attribution to the U.S.” Meaning, he was worried somebody would find out what they did. But, General Carter reassured the room, “it would be possible to accomplish this purpose of agricultural sabotage— by methods more subtle than those indicated in the paper.”

A “Mr. Bundy” (presumably, not the serial killer Ted Bundy, but who knows) chimed in. Bundy “said that he had no worries about any such sabotage, which could clearly be” blamed on somebody else, like the Cubans. Mr. Bundy cautioned that America should avoid obvious things like chemical releases. That is, “unless they could be completely covered up.”

General Carter brought up a brilliant and very specific idea. “He mentioned specifically the possibility of producing crop failures by the introduction of biological agents which would appear to be of national origin.”

Wait, what??

They should have called it “Operation Not Our Fault.” Instead of debating the morality of forced starvation through covert biological warfare, they were only worried about the optics.

I feel inclined to pen a fulsome and very sarcastic essay about Cold War era biological operations, which previously were only the fodder of kooky anti-CIA conspiracy theories. (Now confirmed, of course, as fact.) I have many questions. Where would the “biological agents” come from? Who was developing them? How much of this was — and is — going on? Who are these insane Stanley Kubrick-style cartoon villains working for CIA and dreaming up this kind of uncontrolled evil? Why have they lied about it all these years?

Does anybody who works for the government ever get in trouble for lying?

And … starvation of noncombatant civilians through covert biological attacks? What. On. Earth.

And of course … was covid a “biological agent” designed as a “subtle” way to “accomplish the purpose” of killing civilians? Was it supposed to happen in a way that “could be completely covered up?” Was covid designed to “appear to be of national origin” from China?

I pause, unable to withhold this comment, to note that destroying people’s crops is not clever. It’s not high-tech. It’s not spycraft. It’s not progress through peaceful means. It doesn’t take highly-skilled experts and supertrained spooks to dream up nightmarish ideas like this.

Rather, it only requires merciless brutality and ruthless amorality.

No wonder Kennedy wanted to scatter the intelligence agencies to the wind. It’s too bad he became the accidental victim of a rogue, lone gunman who used to be on CIA’s payroll and totally worked alone. ALL ALONE, never forget. (Coincidentally, just like Trump assassin Thomas Crooks. Just saying.)

But for today, let’s set all that aside. Let’s consider just the contemporaneous ramifications. Could this kind of quietly explosive material be the real reason for the releases? Could there be a much bigger goal than just exposing one dark secret (that can never be exposed)? Could all these unredacted CIA breadcrumbs —and the frightful fury arising from them— cause an inevitable collapse of the intelligence agencies?

Will Kennedy finally achieve his revenge— from beyond the grave?

Short of destroying them, could President Trump be disciplining the intelligence agencies, by slowly slipping out their secrets, one by one, starting with the oldest and therefore least objectionable ones? I mean, why should Operation Mongoose remain classified? The Soviet Union is a historical footnote. Cuba is no geopolitical threat. It’s a cruise-ship comedian’s punchline.

If Trump is using these disclosures to initiate the intelligence agencies’ controlled demolition, it would be the longest, slowest burn of political payback in history—JFK’s revenge served not just cold, but cryogenically frozen and thawed out decades later for maximum effect.


The intelligence agencies built their Babylonic Tower of Power from bricks of secrecy. Trump is weaponizing their own secrets against them. If I’m right, it would be the most karmically delicious reversal in modern history.

Who’s the mongoose now? President Trump is the mongoose.

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The Signal Brouhaha
« Reply #829 on: March 25, 2025, 05:11:05 PM »

CIA Director John Ratcliffe confirmed that according to CIA record management, Signal is approved for “work use.” Let’s set this record straight. Here is the truth about Signal:

-In 2016, the DNC instructed all staffers to exclusively use Signal to talk crap about Trump because it was encrypted.

-In 2017, Signal was approved by the sergeant at arms of the U.S. Senate and staff. -The use of common amongst the security community.

-Cybersecurity firm iVerify’s Rocky Cole has also stated the app has "stellar reputation and is widely used and trusted in the security community”.

-Even Edward Snowden has said that he uses Signal due to its strong encryption services.

Also see

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/03/25/cia-director-ratcliffe-blows-up-secret-war-plans-narrative-n2654467

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Signal Brouhaha?
« Reply #831 on: March 26, 2025, 10:12:05 AM »
The "journalist" is horrified by the mistake, it could 'jeopardize national security'! He then releases it to the world?

I would label him partisan opportunist over patriot or 'journalist', the hats he pretends to wear.

The person concerned about secrets releases it all (part?) to the public?! No one in MSM DNC world sees a contradiction??
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https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/03/26/jeffrey-goldberg-just-proved-his-signalgate-narrative-is-a-hoax-n4938288
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What to make of this?
« Reply #832 on: March 26, 2025, 08:14:23 PM »


KathyAnn Fritznew (a FB post)
7h  ·
Alex Wong is the individual who added Jeffrey Goldberg to the Signal chat. 

Alex Wong is Mike Walz' National Security Advisor.

Laura Loomer did a deep dive on this guy.

- Alex Wong, the Chinese Deputy National Security Advisor is married to U.S. Attorney Candice Chiu Wong, a Chinese Woman who was one of the key attorneys involved in PROSECUTING J6ers.

- Alex’s wife, Candice Chiu Wong, worked under the Obama admin and the Biden admin as an Assistant United States Attorney for the District of Columbia, where she led the Violence Reduction and Trafficking Offenses Section for more than two years.
- She was involved in the prosecution of many J6ers during the Biden regime, under which she was nominated to become a Member of the United States Sentencing Commission. Additionally, Candice Chiu Wong served as a Law Clerk to Obama-appointed US Supreme Court Justice Sonia M. Sotomayor!

- Making matters worse, Alex Wong worked for Covington & Burling which is one of the law firms the President recently stripped of its security clearance and terminated all of their government contracts via Executive Order on February 25th, 2025. Trump accused CovingtonLLP of being involved in the weaponization of government.

- Given the Chinese connections, it really makes you wonder if Jeffrey Goldberg was added to the Trump Signal chat on purpose as part of a foreign opp to embarrass the Trump admin on behalf of China.

SIDE NOTE:

Jeffrey Goldberg said a “war plan” was released that contained “precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing.”.

THAT WAS A LIE.

What Goldberg actually released—something he could have shared from the start—is not a “war plan.” There are no names, no specific targets or locations, and no coordinates. It basically just says some F-18s will strike a terrorist somewhere today.
Alex Wong needs to be investigated and terminatad.

The rest is a “nothing burger”.

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Re: What to make of this?
« Reply #833 on: March 26, 2025, 08:59:13 PM »
What a tangled web. Who knows what's true.

Now is it clear we want people who are loyal in all positions, not backstabbers.

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Re: Intel Matters
« Reply #834 on: March 26, 2025, 09:09:19 PM »
I was glad to hear Trump admin. would be most transparent in history

But I did not expect that to include announcements in advance of military strikes.

Hegseth, for me does not come off as looking good and it is only weeks in.  I was not thrilled with him as choice from the get go.

They sounded like winners in a basketball game giving each other high fives over a win
rather then serious military leaders engaged in conflict.

But what do I know?

Oh, and yes we look hyporcritical having justly criticized  Hillary getting off free when lower governmental officials would have faced jail time.

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Re: Intel Matters
« Reply #835 on: March 27, 2025, 06:06:35 AM »
It appears real information  though not completel  was sent to someone (enemy journalist) who will do far more damage to this administration then any Communist .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/ar-AA1BH7VQ\


The Dems will NEVER drop this for the rest of DJT term.

Just admit the mistake and fix it.  So much better then finding other excuses which don't  jive.   Remember we got to win independents in '26 like Doug points out.

Will this hurt Trump or Rs I guess remains to be seen. 

Somehow Hegseth comes off more like a high school coach than a commander to me.
I agree with his mission but,.......


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Re: Intel Matters
« Reply #836 on: March 27, 2025, 07:07:48 AM »
"Oh, and yes we look hyporcritical having justly criticized  Hillary getting off free when lower governmental officials would have faced jail time."

  - it's a good point but through my biased lens I'm seeing the hypocrisy vice versa. All of the sudden the left (media) is selectively outraged by non-classified information being sent through approved channels when nothing outraged them when much worse facts emerged in the other direction.

Listening to this issue explode you would think no administration ever made a mistake before. But didn't the Clinton Administration bomb the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade? And the Biden Afghan withdrawal, as bad as it gets. Lives lost. Phenomenal amount of equipment left behind, and so on.

As I understand it, this mission was a success, and this accidental eavesdropping exposed nothing of embarrassment. The vice president expressed reservations. The president made the final call and the strikes took place.

Wouldn't it be worse if top officials and advisors were not having frank discussions leading up to a military action like this? And the vice president is in the loop. That will pay off in 3 years when the opposition says all he did was go to funerals. No one but the commander-in-chief made the final call, and it seems it was the right one.
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Re: Intel Matters
« Reply #837 on: March 27, 2025, 07:57:18 AM »
"   it's a good point but through my biased lens I'm seeing the hypocrisy vice versa. "

A response, "well they do it too and worse" is a valid point to make but I still want OUR side to fess up for an error and not sound like they are BS ing us.

The "they do it too" is not going to impress indepedents and even for me not being an indepedent annoys me.

Can't we get some real honesty from out politicians?   Both sides have dumbed down integrity demeanor and language .  I like Trump's policies but I never approved of his style .   We can fight fire with fire but admitting a mistake is not backing down - it is smart and honest in MO . 

That said this will never change.    So I am simply lamenting the inevitable with TRump and the crats.
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« Reply #839 on: March 27, 2025, 07:14:01 PM »
well was this due to carelessness
if so they all need to be fired

or hacking or some sort of plot?



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