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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3900 on: August 08, 2023, 12:39:39 PM »
Only Fox reporters are forced to reveal sources

never NYT WP or the rest.

clear and present 2 applications of "justice" or injustice as usual.

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« Reply #3901 on: August 09, 2023, 08:15:04 AM »
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quotes used wrongly
« Reply #3902 on: August 11, 2023, 08:50:37 AM »
from DeSantis thread added here:

It is one thing when the press inadvertently
take a quote out of context but when it is done on purpose

of Trump will do it too to Ron.

I don't recall Ron taking Trump quotes out of context....

Yes, usually nice guys finish last in politics (look at Romney , Mc Cain)

I recall with dismay my quote being taken out of context in 1983.
I was flown to Newark NJ from SC airforce base from Grenada.

I was met at the airport by a local reporter who was running up to us asking our views of Grenada invasion.

One wanted to interview me at my home later.  Or perhaps he called us later I don't quite recall.

He from the city newspaper and later one from the Newark Star Ledger came to my house and interviewed me as a home town witness to the invasion.

At one point I remember perfectly clearly I said , " once the US soldiers came and rescued us I was not scared"

MY goal was to thank the US military and give them credit for courage and the sense of pride that they helped US citizens abroad.  I know the real purpose of the invasion was not the medical students but to prevent the Cubans from using an airstrip for their military advantage.

Yet, I saw with dismay the quote in the newspaper was among other things, printed as " I was not scared"

Taken out of the full quote made it appear I was boasting about courage I did not have instead of giving credit to the soldiers who earned it.

I can honestly say I was not particularly brave and of course was in shock and fear when while standing on our landlords porch on the hillside and seeing a helicopter wing around from behind the  hill and whiz past us right before our eyes , and seeing two Grenadians who appeared to be all of about 16 years old holding AK 47s I certainly was intimidated.

How would I fight back ?  Throw heavy medical books at them?

Yes it is one thing when quotes are taken out of context or misquoted by accidental mistake, but when taken out of context the whole meaning can be changed, masked or reversed.

Sickening when this is done on purpose......


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Zeihan: Why we can't trust the media
« Reply #3903 on: August 14, 2023, 06:30:02 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDkRHku2epE

Interestingly, apart from Middle East issues, he recommends Al Jazeera. 

When I was in Jordan for a month, I watched lots of AJ and must say I get where he is coming from.

I will be giving AJ a try:

https://www.aljazeera.com/

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3906 on: August 15, 2023, 10:35:24 AM »
held hands ?

grounds for firing ?

she is an attractive lady and has a million dollar smile

till she opens her mouth and spurts out DNC material....


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Late night left wing hosts are off the air for 3 months and no one noticed
« Reply #3907 on: August 16, 2023, 07:36:27 AM »
All had declining audiences before they went off the air. This is the first I've heard that they were gone.  Good riddance.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/08/07/nolte-left-wing-late-night-hosts-disappear-for-3-months-and-no-one-cares/

SNL missed three months of making fun of Biden. Maybe that was the motive for the strike.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3908 on: August 16, 2023, 10:42:40 AM »
 :-D

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Re: cynical smart ass MSM
« Reply #3910 on: August 17, 2023, 06:43:06 AM »

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New Vanity Fair Editor
« Reply #3911 on: August 29, 2023, 04:58:56 AM »
Nice background, was previously reporter for Moscow Times.

https://nypost.com/2017/11/13/radhika-jones-officially-named-vanity-fairs-new-editor/
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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3912 on: August 29, 2023, 08:01:42 AM »
"was previously reported for Moscow Times"

Should the word "was" be in there?

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3913 on: August 29, 2023, 09:27:36 AM »
"was previously reporter for Moscow Times"

Should the word "was" be in there?

Right.  She seemed to make a rather seamless transition from Moscow Times to NYT along her career path.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3914 on: August 29, 2023, 12:02:24 PM »
Ah, so "reported" should be "reporter"?


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Coulter hypocracy and blantant lies of msm on violent crime
« Reply #3916 on: August 31, 2023, 06:32:21 AM »
https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2023/08/30/apparently-not-all-black-lives-matter-n2627768

if only CNN or MSPCP would invite her on ........

I would love to see her on a racist program

Joy Reid on mspcp

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CNN doctor on McConnell
« Reply #3917 on: August 31, 2023, 07:13:14 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/08/30/cnns-reiner-mitch-mcconnell-likely-having-seizures/

absence seizures (petit mal)

would explain the whole medical condition we are witnessing

CNN asked if more open disclosure of medical condition for officials
should be expected

the doctor hedges
but sort of agrees

I wonder if he was ever put front and center and asked the same of Joe Biden

of course the next day CNN is all over the story about a Republican

CNN going to run further into the can with the ex NYT guy......

already they are a cable version of huffpost, salon, atlantic
DNyuz she knows etc.


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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3918 on: August 31, 2023, 07:52:37 AM »
I saw CNN coverage of this that made the interesting observation that his aides did not seem at all surprised.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3919 on: August 31, 2023, 10:19:21 AM »
absence seizure was my first choice for explaining Mitch's sudden staring spells

his doctors already did the usual tests looking for everything

and diagnosed this and since already know what it is would only need to adjust his medicines to control them

rather then going through any more evaluation

IMHO Bidens situation if far worse
then an intermittent petit mal seizure disorder that can usually be controlled with adjustment of medicines

that said , it is still time for McConnell to retire




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of course
« Reply #3920 on: August 31, 2023, 01:50:09 PM »

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Re: of course
« Reply #3921 on: September 01, 2023, 03:34:05 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/31/doctor-clears-mitch-mcconnell-for-duty-after-appearing-to-freeze/

A guy who should not be driving a car is ok
to run the Senate minority
 :roll:

Right now it looks like Joe Biden is the gold standard in cognitive ability to govern.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/31/us/politics/mcconnell-freeze-resign-senate.html

Sure would be nice if Republican Kentucky would elect a republican governor.  But they didn't and they won't.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/governor/2023/kentucky/


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DeSantis message - "do not leak"
« Reply #3922 on: September 01, 2023, 09:22:25 AM »
So message in NYT

something else is going on with all these leaks to NYT WP and CNN

people are being paid for this info. in MHO.

or being hacked....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/desantis-super-pac-urgent-plea-113054878.html

funny - we never see leaks from the LEFT


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How propaganda works
« Reply #3923 on: September 03, 2023, 06:32:09 AM »

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Scarborough shocked at polling
« Reply #3924 on: September 05, 2023, 08:41:30 AM »
https://news.yahoo.com/joe-scarborough-unleashes-minutelong-tirade-144733651.html

Does it ever occur to them for even an instant that they , the LEFT msm are PART OF THE PROBLEM?

They just can't get or admit why phony lawfare along with phony distorted MSM is rejected by most of the country .

people who are open minded can see beyond their propaganda.

DeSantis my first choice
and I am a bit reluctant to except that Haley is my second choice.

Vivek , while brilliant is over his head

Scott I cannot get a handle on well enough to believe he can do the job
Berglund I like but ditto for him

Christie should simply go back to washing up on the Jersey shore

Trump , I would vote for if he is the nominee , but I will have 3 pairs of noseclips on .

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3926 on: September 11, 2023, 05:57:58 AM »
well not exactly with CNN
only with the CNN anchor.  :wink:

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Media, Rush Limbaugh interview, Donald Trump, October 2020
« Reply #3927 on: September 13, 2023, 08:15:49 AM »
http://cattleandgoats.com/Trump-Rush%20Limbaugh%20-%20Oct%2009%202020%20-%20Hour%201.mp3

Yes they were great buddies.

One comment at about the 50 minute mark, they were discussing Biden losing it but agreed he showed up well enough for the debate. They agreed that at one point Biden did start to lose it, and Rush said, paraphrase, then you let him off the hook by talking over him.
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Trump "vowing" to go after Comcast
« Reply #3930 on: September 25, 2023, 05:49:44 PM »
https://www.mediaite.com/media/enemy-of-the-people-trump-proudly-vows-to-investigate-nbc-msnbc-for-country-threatening-treason-if-elected/

I feel this is very bad
He is sounding more and more like a vengeful dictatorial maniac .

I am not voting for him to get Revenge to soothes HIS demons.

This will enrage his opposition even more

We need to win hearts and minds

not settle scores

for longer term success

woe unto us if he wins and goes down this road the next time Democrats win......

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3931 on: September 26, 2023, 07:54:30 AM »
He is not without reason on the evil of what was done to him, but

a) this seems well over the top, and

b) this seems to be seriously counter-productive juju.

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O'Reilly : organizations behind Dem propaganda machine
« Reply #3932 on: October 01, 2023, 11:10:46 AM »
go to the podcast Sept 26 "Killing the Witches is Released, the Tucker Carlson Interview, .... "

and start at 28:39 seconds

"Who is behind Democratic propaganda "

in other words these are at least part of the MSM echo machine that propagates the same stuff over and over again AND at the same time blocks conservative media.

He gives 3 of the orgs  behind it. Implies 3 more to be named later on.

1) K & L Gates (William Gates Sr.)
  1601 K St.

https://www.klgates.com/  (suspcious - I go to page and it does not let me link to any of the information there )

2) Akin Gump Strauss Power Feld LLP
   201 K St.

https://www.akingump.com/en/sectors/energy/power

3) Foreign Policy For America Action Network
  1301 K St.

https://www.fp4america.org/
 
 

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60 Minutes fluff piece on Garland
« Reply #3933 on: October 02, 2023, 08:55:23 AM »
same old Merick about he is neutral on applying the law, does not communicate with Biden/administration (maybe not directly  :wink:);
mentions the line "Trump appointed" DA
Weiss.

no mention of obvious slow walking and failure to do anything about Hunter investigations
or the phony deal that Judge rightly stopped a month ago or so.

no mention of other DA clearly preventing Weiss from enforcing the investigation, no mention of whistle blowers , claiming he has no knowledge of any of this

and is even pressed to push the "sympathy" card by discussed how his family escaped the Holocaust during which he even became tearful (rightfully so and understood by me) though that does not explain the lack of pursuit of Hunter's crimes.  He states he became interested in being in law enforcement prosceuctor due to what happened to his family and how he wants justice not partisanshiop is his life's mission.

That all said he is either lying , corrupt or totally a buffoon who has no idea what is going on in his DOJ.

The next episode was on Sam Bankman Freed.
Even with this the MSM makes an anti - Republican dig - pointing out how SBF helped bankroll McConnell to get only anti Trumpers into the Senate with only a 1 to 2 second mention that SBF contributed to Dems too.

Totally ignored was that 90 or 95 % of SBF went to fund Democrats - outrageous left wing media

Always pushes the anti Republican card .

rare execptions when MSM goes after a DEm such as Menendez only seems to occur when it appears safe that the replacement will also be a Dem.



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Re: 60 Minutes fluff piece on Garland
« Reply #3934 on: October 02, 2023, 01:11:11 PM »
"does not communicate with Biden/administration (maybe not directly  :wink:);   "

Not directly but both report to the same boss?

"... how he wants justice not partisanship is his life's mission."

   - Doesn't it seem the exact opposite?

Lying vs buffoon, I would say scripted and rehearsed.  His version of the truth.

It doesn't take a lot of coordination for everyone to know they are supposed to screw Trump and protect Democrats.

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new round of Democrats congratulating themselves
« Reply #3935 on: October 07, 2023, 09:18:21 PM »
National Academy of Television Arts & Science’s 2023 News & Documentary Emmy Awards

https://www.thewrap.com/cnn-vice-news-anderson-cooper-news-documentary-emmy-awards/

of course

like the pulitzers emmy and oscars

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Left wing media targets X in endless attacks
« Reply #3936 on: October 12, 2023, 08:45:43 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/land-sea-air-online-hamas-093013962.html

as if  MSM is not making money off commercials during their reporting  :roll:

probably much more than their usual Republican bashing stories !

MSM -> evil = Republicans, Conservatives, Christians, Fox, X,  and anyone who is white.

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This could be filed under more than one topic, and is certainly yet another example of the abject hypocrisy of most on the left, particularly the regressive “Progressive” left:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/10/12/white-house-cover-up-of-biden-classified-docs-scandal-worse-than-previously-thought-n1734476?fbclid=IwAR2j-vGlTPs9fFAZbwLqQZKy4WnnVc4isJBn3ZLIePwtWLqFMivIjnFuUcY

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Pedestals Don’t make Heros, Actions Do
« Reply #3938 on: October 12, 2023, 10:11:16 AM »
2nd post here today.

BHO is more fable than man, the MSM are unctuous, protective, cutthroats, weasels, and Joe the Plumber is a victim of them both:

https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2023/08/05/sunday-n2626675?fbclid=IwAR097qII3LgGLaoGmmgvfkxn21UNge1o0CJM2fYdFeOmBvcMYSyNbnBRGwY

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Ananpour
« Reply #3939 on: October 12, 2023, 10:15:43 AM »
she is married to Jewish man - I don't know how they get along at home 

the once named "terror whore"
again shows only sympathy for Palestinians and never shows sympathy for Jewish Israelis:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/we-are-full-of-fear-of-what-has-happened-and-what-is-going-to-happen-sayss-palestinian-poet-in-gaza/vi-AA1i3yQi?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9483ad1daf7f494cbb02a7b65426e740&ei=20#details

for example she does not retort to this guy that Hamas fires endless rockets into Israel which then must elicit a strong response
she does not mention that destroying Jewish Israel state is in Hamas charter see my post under anti semitism thread.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3941 on: October 13, 2023, 08:54:03 AM »
DeSantis has very rational answers to Palestinian exchange

but headline reads :

"you had my vote, but you don't now"

from ANONYMOUS voter.

that alone exposes the bias.

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Andrea Mitchell
« Reply #3942 on: October 13, 2023, 01:50:55 PM »
Married to Alan  Greenspan since 1997.

Amazing how everyone knows everyone in DC .

One giant bedroom.

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Stratfor opines on X
« Reply #3943 on: October 13, 2023, 06:24:11 PM »


X's Struggle to Contain Israel-Gaza Disinformation Bodes Ill for Its Election Preparedness
Oct 13, 2023 | 19:43 GMT





A week into the Israel-Gaza war, the proliferation of false or misleading information on X (formerly known as Twitter) illustrates the platform's content moderation challenges, suggesting that threat actors will have more opportunities to use X in their efforts to sway public opinion ahead of major upcoming elections. Since the conflict erupted on Oct. 7, various media reports have revealed significant shortcomings in the platform's ability to prevent and remove misinformation and disinformation. Over the past week, numerous widely shared posts on the Israel-Gaza war have been found to contain content that is either partially false or entirely fabricated, making it difficult for users — as well as researchers and open-source intelligence professionals — to discern truth from reality. The situation reached a critical point on Oct. 8, when X owner Elon Musk posted personal recommendations for users to follow accounts known for spreading misinformation, such as @WarMonitors and @sentdefender, both of which played a part in spreading deepfake images in May of an explosion at the U.S. Pentagon. Though Musk ultimately deleted the post, it still had over 11 million views before being taken down. Musk has also failed to delete accompanying posts (which appear on all users' feeds as part of X's updated algorithm) that encouraged users to trust X for the truth rather than traditional media sources, claiming that the mainstream media is to blame for misinformation.

Some of the false posts that have spread on X in recent days include videos of explosions and buildings collapsing, positioned to appear as if they were a series of rockets fired by Hamas, but were actually years-old images taken during the Syrian civil war. Users have also shared a violent video appearing to show an Israeli woman being tortured by Hamas that, in reality, was footage taken in 2015 of a 16-year-old being burned to death in Guatemala. Other X accounts have spread false claims that Iran had entered the Israel-Gaza conflict, and that the U.S. embassy in the Lebanese capital of Beirut had been evacuated. A fabricated document purporting to show White House plans to give Israel $8 billion in aid, along with a fabricated BBC report claiming to show evidence that Ukraine sold NATO weapons to Hamas, have circulated on the platform as well over the past week.

Disinformation actors also created a fake account impersonating the Israeli English-language newspaper The Jerusalem Post, whose legitimate website had been taken down for several days by Anonymous Sudan (a hacktivist group with alleged ties to the Russian state) following the initial outbreak of the conflict, in hopes of spreading false information about the war. In one post that received over 700,000 views, the fictitious/impersonation account spread claims that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had been hospitalized.
The seemingly significant uptick in false information on X follows a number of other changes to the platform that have undermined content moderation efforts, including the removal of headlines from links, new subscription plans and reported cuts to its election moderation team. Most recently, on Oct. 4, X announced that it would no longer supply headlines to contextualize article links, with links instead appearing as the primary image included in the article. This forces users to rely on often vague or arbitrary images to guess what an article may be about, at times falling prey to misleading images about the contents of a link and creating confusion for those searching for information about a particular subject. On top of this, one benefit for users who pay for X's new Twitter Blue subscription service is having their posts reach more people by being prioritized on other users' feeds. The consequent deluge of paid content has, in turn, helped fuel the proliferation of false information on the platform, as posts from more authoritative primary sources are now often being buried beneath promoted posts from paying subscribers who could be anyone, despite having official-looking checkmarks next to their names.

In late September, X reportedly cut election moderation teams, along with its election misinformation reporting tool, at least for U.S. and Australian users, though a similar feature is still available for EU users that enables reporting of content that may have ''negative effects on civil disorders or elections.''

In December 2022, Musk dissolved then-Twitter's Trust and Safety Council, a group of 100 independent academics, civil leaders and activists who sought to combat hate speech and other harmful content on the platform. The move to scrap the council then kicked off a series of other changes to the platform's moderation efforts.

In November 2022, X rolled out its new ''Twitter Blue'' paid subscription service, which gives paying users a blue checkmark to verify their account — a feature previously reserved for high-profile users like celebrities and politicians. Content from these paying users is also promoted to the top of user timelines above content from non-paid users.

The proliferation of false content on X since the outbreak of the Israel-Gaza conflict suggests that nation-state actors, along with domestic political groups, will have an easier time exploiting the platform for influence operations, seeking to sway public perceptions in the leadup to numerous major elections in the coming year. Content on X in the early days of the Israel-Gaza conflict has been characterized by a highly accelerated rate of disinformation, with various actors attempting to control the narrative, offering a preview of what is likely to be a wave of fake content on the platform surrounding a number of prominent elections that will be held across the world through the end of 2023 and throughout 2024. An early preview may come as soon as Oct. 15, when Poland will hold general elections in which pro-Russian threat actors have strong incentives to deploy disinformation to weaken Polish support for Ukraine and cause further fissures with the European Union. Looking ahead, not only will threat actors be able to take advantage of X's content moderation challenges, but many will use generative AI tools (which overall are harder to detect) to fabricate video, audio, text and other content to make false information appear more convincing. This will provide additional opportunities for threat actors to spread narratives that aim to achieve a wide range of ends ahead of a series of major elections in 2024, such as the Taiwanese presidential election in January 2024, Indian general elections between April-May 2024, elections for the European Parliament in June 2024, and U.S. general elections in November 2024. Russian, Chinese and Iranian threat actors in particular will be active on the platform throughout these election cycles to influence public perceptions to align more with their interests, exploit divisions among social groups, and undermine trust in democratic processes. The U.S. Office of the Director of National Intelligence in its 2023 Annual Threat Assessment specifically cited Russia and China as states pushing disinformation to promote authoritarianism in a broader conflict with democratic governments. Iran, too, has leveraged social media in the past to spread disinformation and attempt to influence public opinion and will continue to do so in the future, though its efforts have tended to be less sophisticated and failed to gain much traction. In at least some countries holding upcoming elections, including the United States, domestic political groups will also take advantage of X to spread fake content, particularly deepfakes and other content fueled by generative AI, focusing on politically salient issues and depicting opposition parties and politicians in unfavorable and fictitious circumstances.

Earlier this year, the European Union launched a pilot program that assesses how successful various tech companies are at fighting disinformation. On Sept. 26, European Commission Vice President Vera Jourova noted that the program found that X is ''the platform with the largest ratio of misinformation or disinformation posts,'' with disinformation accounts on X also more likely to have recently joined the platform and have more followers than legitimate accounts.

Slovakia's Sept. 30 parliamentary elections were characterized by a flurry of false posts on social media, including AI-generated content, with more than 365,000 election-related disinformation posts on Slovak social media in the first two weeks of September detected by U.K.-based nonprofit Reset, whose analysis also found that disinformation posts generated five times more exposure than average posts.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3945 on: October 16, 2023, 06:01:36 AM »
BBG:  Just posted that on FB.  Hope lots of people play it forward.

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So?
« Reply #3946 on: October 16, 2023, 06:53:40 AM »

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BBC Feigns Impartiality
« Reply #3947 on: October 17, 2023, 07:51:38 PM »
Perhaps this is yet another dog bites man story, but I’m running into similar self delusion on the left where the Israeli/Hamas war is concerned in various places. On the one hand they appear to understand on a visceral level that defending Hamas is beyond the pale, yet have some sort of backhanded reflex that inspires equivocation or worse. Truth be told I’m enjoying their discomfort—I get the feeling there is a lightbulb dimly beginning glow above various left wing heads as they grapple with unspeakable acts their True Believers are tying to cajole them into embracing—and they don’t know which direction they want to be pulled and so spout wan platitudes they know to be false.

https://www.samizdata.net/2023/10/the-bbc-frequently-does-tell-people-who-to-support-and-who-to-condemn/

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #3949 on: October 18, 2023, 07:32:51 AM »
Likely the truth  =  Drudge -  >  "Saudi crown prince snubs Biden"

vs.

likely the cover up  =

CBS - >  "mutually agreed" upon cancellation of meeting