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Re: FB bans gay page for Islamophobia
« Reply #1702 on: June 22, 2016, 10:18:38 AM »

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1703 on: June 22, 2016, 12:44:08 PM »
Good point

I resent this belittling descriptive adjectives that calls everything phobia that the left and their media echoes keep throwing out all over the air waves. 
 This is less about fear than being angry and pissed off and resentful.


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If they have such a good point, why do they need to lie?
« Reply #1704 on: June 22, 2016, 05:26:01 PM »
http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/31/hbos-real-sports-misrepresented-my-comments-about-ar-15s/

AR-15 Inventor Says HBO Grossly Distorted His Views On Guns
A recent anti-gun segment on ‘Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel’ didn’t lie about what I said, it just omitted key parts, which changed the meaning.
MAY 31, 2016 By Jim Sullivan

The anti-gun HBO sports interview misrepresented much of what I had said. They were apparently trying to make the AR-15 civilian model seem too dangerous for civilian sales. They didn’t lie about what I said, they just omitted key parts, which changed the meaning.

The examples I most object to are: 1) When I appear to say that the civilian-model AR-15 is just as effective or deadly as the military M16, they omitted that I had said “When firing semi-auto only” and that “the select fire M16 on full auto is of course more effective”; and 2) the interviewer pretended not to understand the relevance that, due to the Hague Convention, military bullets cannot be expanding hollow points like hunting bullets that give up all of their energy in the target body instead of passing through with minimum wound effect, with most of the energy still in the bullet and wasted.


Instead we (Armalite) went the small-caliber, high-velocity route and gave the bullet the right twist of 1:14 to be stable in air but unstable in tissue, where it tumbled and gave up all of its energy in a few inches and complied with Hague. This gave us a small cartridge that was half the size, weight, and recoil of a 7.62 NATO so the soldier could carry twice the ammo, fire controllable full auto, and be far more deadly out to 300 yards, the three characteristics that determine military rifle cartridge effect.

But 5.56 can’t complete with hunting cartridge bullets, which can legally be expanding hollow point that are more lethal than tumbling. Their lethality is based entirely on how powerful they are. 5.56 is only half as powerful as the 7.62 NATO (.308) hunting bullet. That doesn’t mean I’m not pleased to see AR-15s sell on the civilian market. It just means I didn’t realize they would 57 years ago. And I’m not on the wrong side of any gun issue unless someone wants to argue that an infantry rifle cartridge should kill a cavalry horse at 1,000 yards (30-06 criteria).



Jim Sullivan is an American firearms inventor who helped design the AR-15. He also contributed to the Ruger M77 rifle, and the M16, Stoner 63, and Ruger Mini-14 rifles, and is largely responsible for the Ultimax 100 light machine gun.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1706 on: June 23, 2016, 02:33:09 AM »
OTOH someone cited this to me:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-ar-15-inventor-speaks-out-n593356?cid=sm_fb_msnbc


Those who are trained with firearms recognize that the AR is a great defensive weapon against home invaders, especially for urban environments. It's great for women to defend themselves and their families. Why do anti-civil rights totalitarians want women to be victims?

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1707 on: June 23, 2016, 02:57:17 AM »
There is a movie about a society where only the military and police have guns. It's called Schindler's List.


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Re: Ministry of Truth's allies in Hollywood
« Reply #1709 on: June 23, 2016, 10:50:57 AM »
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/the-man-in-the-high-castle-facilitating-china-s-information-war.htm

Japanese atrocities in WWII are well documented, not sure why Yon is trying to tie pandering to China to that.


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Down the memory hole-- Chris Stevens location given away in emails
« Reply #1711 on: June 27, 2016, 08:20:21 AM »
http://conservativetribune.com/hillary-email-chris-stevens/
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/03/01/hillary-emails-betrayed-whereabouts-of-murdered-ambassador-chris-stevens/

Breitbart and "Conservative Tribune"??

Unless I'm missing something here, this is another sickening commentary on our media, you have to read right wing sites to get news, not just opinion.

In a Google News search for stories about Hillary's email issues, the first, non-right wing story to come up is a USA Today opinion calling Hillary's email situation a "pseudo-scandal", written by a Clinton surrogate.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/06/16/hillary-clinton-email-non-scandal-column/85718386/

NOTHING about the story I learned here on the forum via links in Crafty's posts.
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The MSM is uninterested for some reason
« Reply #1712 on: July 03, 2016, 12:01:30 PM »

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New generation of Ministry of Truths; yes just ask them they know
« Reply #1713 on: July 03, 2016, 02:28:51 PM »
Look at the face on this kid.  He can hardly be 25 years old.  Right out of the hot bed of progressive radicalism of Univ of Chicago.  He is an editor?  at the Huff post.  All of a sudden these kids get behind an ipad and they are experts,editors, editorialists, opinionists, policy experts on every subject one can think of, spokespeople for whole generations......

And Huff makes millions.  And Soros like rich guys fund these kids on MIC news to propagate the March Forward speak .  What a racket:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/sam-levine

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Dick , a National Enquirer writer now?
« Reply #1714 on: July 15, 2016, 05:09:07 PM »
I wonder if he wrote the recent headline about "crooked Hillary".  I do not admit to buying the rag / mag but i so admit reading while on line at the supermarket!   Hey what am I supposed to do while waiting.  Read candy wrappers?

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/videos/hillary-clinton-net-worth-corruption-dick-morris-video/

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1715 on: July 15, 2016, 06:39:52 PM »
I saw that; either he is getting desperate or he is getting a lot of money for the gig , , , or both.

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Re: We are being lied to
« Reply #1717 on: July 15, 2016, 09:16:54 PM »
http://heatst.com/uk/exclusive-france-suppressed-news-of-gruesome-torture-at-bataclan-massacre/

There and here.


I was surprised that they hadn't done something like this. Anytime someone is willing to die with sdomething like that, they're trying to send a message. Shooting someone these days  isn't nearly terrific enough (even children expect worse from their video games).

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POTAH: Murdoch Brothers-- what happens next at FOX News?
« Reply #1718 on: July 18, 2016, 06:44:11 AM »
Murdoch Brothers’ Challenge: What Happens Next at Fox News?

By BROOKS BARNES and EMILY STEELJULY 17, 2016

Lachlan Murdoch, left, and his brother James Murdoch, the executive co-chairmen of 21st Century Fox, called for an internal investigation into Gretchen Carlson’s sexual harassment lawsuit against the Fox News chairman, Roger Ailes. Credit Drew Angerer/Getty Images

LOS ANGELES — They have shaken up 21st Century Fox’s profile in Washington, replacing their father’s Republican lobbying chief with a Democratic one. They have jettisoned film executives, overhauled foreign TV operations and dug into the evolution of cable channels like National Geographic.

Their father, Rupert Murdoch, handed them the reins of 21st Century Fox only a year ago. But since then, James and Lachlan Murdoch have been remaking the company at breakneck speed.

Yet there remains one corner of the company — a critically important one — where the generational shift has not been visible: Fox News.

The brothers have left it alone for two reasons. First, Fox News, which continues to dominate in the ratings, contributes roughly 20 percent of the conglomerate’s annual earnings, and any changes, even seemingly minor ones, could endanger that profit. Second, Roger Ailes, who has run Fox News for 20 years, has little interest in corporate oversight. He has sparred with Lachlan Murdoch in the past — and won.

But the Murdoch siblings now have little choice. Gretchen Carlson, the former Fox News host, filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against Mr. Ailes on July 6. Her charges have resulted in a public-relations nightmare for Fox News, and 21st Century Fox now faces questions about succession planning at the linchpin operation. In short, analysts say, it has become the Murdoch brothers’ biggest leadership challenge since taking over.

Moving with notable speed, the Murdochs hired the law firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison to run an internal investigation. A leader of the firm’s inquiry is Michele Hirshman, a former deputy New York attorney general known for helping Eliot Spitzer fend off criminal charges in the federal prostitution case that led to his resignation as governor. Ms. Hirshman’s team, which includes multiple Paul, Weiss partners and associates, has started to interview employees and review emails.

Mr. Ailes, 76, a towering figure in media and Republican politics, has denied any wrongdoing, and 21st Century Fox has expressed its “full confidence” in him.

Even so, James and Lachlan Murdoch, along with lawyers and their father, who has been phoning in from vacation, have had daily discussions about the crisis, according to two people briefed on the discussions, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss private company dealings. Given the importance of Fox News to the company, the high profile of Mr. Ailes and the seriousness of the allegations, the Murdochs want to make sure impartial and thorough consideration is given to the matter.

There are also things to consider beyond the specifics of Ms. Carlson’s lawsuit. What happens if the investigation turns up nothing to support her claims but finds a hostile workplace nonetheless?

Upending Fox News with a seismic leadership change, particularly as the presidential election season intensifies, is a scenario the brothers are not eager to confront. Despite their personal feelings toward Mr. Ailes, which run cool, and despite their eagerness to modernize 21st Century Fox, the company needs Mr. Ailes, analysts say.

In addition to the more than $1 billion in profit it delivers annually, Fox News gives 21st Century Fox a weapon in talks with cable and satellite operators: Carry all of our networks, and at favorable terms, or we will withhold the enormously popular Fox News. Without the omnipotent Mr. Ailes in charge, Fox News could quickly lose its focus and become less of a juggernaut. Moreover, Mr. Ailes has no clear replacement.

A spokeswoman for 21st Century Fox declined to comment for this article.

In June 2015, when Rupert Murdoch named his sons, James, now 43, and Lachlan, 44, as his successors, the reaction in Hollywood — and even inside 21st Century Fox, to a degree — was subdued. Most people figured the brothers would be timid, at least until their father, who held on to the title of executive chairman, stepped more firmly aside. (James Murdoch was named chief executive and Lachlan Murdoch was named executive chairman, but the company says the two manage in tandem.)

There were some early awkward moments. During a conference call last year with analysts to discuss quarterly financial results, Lachlan Murdoch seemed to struggle, while James Murdoch seemed to signal that this was less a partnership than a one-man show. But the brothers swiftly fell into step and began to exercise their new power, in some instances catching their own executive ranks by surprise.

In September came a $725 million deal to buy control of the National Geographic roster of cable channels and print publications. News of the deal was met with skepticism by many National Geographic employees, who questioned whether their organization’s scientific standards would be threatened by closer alignment with 21st Century Fox — and, in particular, with Fox News, where some commentators have questioned global warming.

On the day the deal was announced, James Murdoch, a supporter of environmental causes (his wife, Kathryn, is a trustee of the Environmental Defense Fund), calmed the National Geographic troops at a town hall meeting. He apologized for some of the programming that 21st Century Fox had previously put on the National Geographic channels under a more limited partnership, saying it did not meet the brand’s standards or promise.

In January, the brothers restructured 21st Century Fox’s international channels business, a roster of some 350 channels that generates $3 billion in annual revenue, resulting in the departure of the division’s chief executive, Hernan Lopez. In February, they started a voluntary buyout program aimed at older movie and television personnel — Fox News and Fox local stations were excluded — resulting in the departures of nearly 400 people.

The moves have continued apace. In April, Michael Regan, the company’s longtime lobbying chief, was replaced by Chip Smith, a veteran Democratic strategist. Hulu, which is co-owned by 21st Century Fox, said in May that it would begin selling a bundle of cable and broadcast channels. The brothers have sought to be industry leaders when it comes to piping television directly to consumers — whether in India with Hotstar, a streaming service that now has 72 million users, or with the Fox broadcast network, which last week began testing a similar app.

The brothers recently put into motion a regime change at their film division by abruptly announcing that Stacey Snider, the studio’s co-chairwoman, would succeed Jim Gianopulos as movie chief.

“You have to have a real appetite for change,” James Murdoch said at an analyst event in June. “Our biggest risk, our single biggest competitive threat, is our own incumbency.”

And yet there Fox News has sat — an island that, until now, has fallen into the “if it’s not broke, don’t fix it” category.

James and Lachlan Murdoch have long had a complicated relationship with Mr. Ailes. About a decade ago, Mr. Ailes and Lachlan Murdoch faced off in a power struggle that eventually led to Lachlan’s unexpected resignation from his father’s empire. James Murdoch has been careful not to criticize Mr. Ailes in public, but people close to him say that he has expressed private concerns that the Fox News brand casts an unfavorable shadow on other parts of the company, particularly in Hollywood.

The friction between Mr. Ailes and the brothers came into public view last summer, when Mr. Ailes told an interviewer that he would continue to report directly to Rupert Murdoch. A week later, a company spokeswoman said that Mr. Ailes would report to Lachlan and James and continue his “longstanding relationship with Rupert.” The next week, in announcing a new multiyear contract for Mr. Ailes, the company said he would report jointly to Rupert, Lachlan and James.

A timeline for the Paul, Weiss investigation has not been disclosed. Although reported by some news outlets as an “independent” review commissioned by the company’s board, that description is not correct. The firm was retained by 21st Century Fox not only to investigate but also to provide legal advice. (The rarer true independent review would preclude legal advice.)

Even so, questions have surfaced about the firm’s independence, in part because of an unconnected case. Last year, the National Football League hired Paul, Weiss to conduct an inquiry into underinflated game balls used by the New England Patriots. The firm later represented the N.F.L. in a related court proceeding, drawing criticism from a New York judge for serving as both investigator and retained counsel. (That judge’s ruling was reversed on appeal.)

A spokeswoman for Paul, Weiss declined to comment.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1719 on: July 19, 2016, 04:25:43 AM »
I didn't watch the RNC last night.  But reading the headlines in the media is reported only the negative.  All controversy.  "Racist", "hate", "plagiarism", "white", "anger", "dark and stormy", "fear", and not one positive adjective in any headline anywhere in the usual sources I read for news.

We don't hear plagiarism claims when Hillary basically copies others when she takes their ideas .  We don't hear much about it with Obama.  We don't hear much about the "I have a dream" speech being plagiarized.

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How the Media Covers Up Muslim and BLM Terrorism...
« Reply #1720 on: July 19, 2016, 07:45:24 AM »
How the Media Covers Up Muslim and #BlackLivesMatter Terrorism

Every Muslim and #BlackLivesMatter Terrorist is just a “troubled loner.”

July 19, 2016
Daniel Greenfield

No sooner are the bloodstains and bits of human flesh hosed off the concrete from the latest Muslim or #BlackLivesMatter terrorist attack and the grieving families ushered through the cold metal doors of impersonal morgues to identify the bodies of their loved ones that the vultures of the media rise above a wounded city and begin spinning the same old lies.

The propaganda, the artful selection and deselection of facts, have become as familiar to us as they were to any of the residents of the Soviet Union or North Korea. Anyone who pays attention knows not only that they are being lied to, but can easily predict the lies that they will be told on the evening news even before they actually hear them being spoken out loud.

We always knew that the Muslim terrorist, even before he was identified, would turn out to be a secular loner who was depressed over his family life. All the media had to do with Mohammed Bouhlel, the Islamic terrorist who murdered 84 people in Nice, France was to replay the same exact narrative as the one that they had fed us with Omar Mateen, the Islamic terrorist who murdered 49 people in Orlando.

Irreligious, depressed loner with family problems. Check. No connection to Islamic terrorism. Suggestion of mental illness. Check and check. Insistence on his lack of interest in religion? One final check.

Mohammed shouted “Allahu Akbar,” the ancient Muslim battle cry that originated with Mohammed's murder of Jews whose meaning is that Allah is greater than the deities of non-Muslims, but the media persists in its dedication to burying the truth in a shallow unmarked grave at midnight behind CNN headquarters.

Gavin Eugene Long aka Cosmo Setepenra, who murdered three police officers in Baton Rouge, was also unstable. Much like Dallas cop-killer Micah Johnson, who was also another “unstable loner.”

What do Mohammed and Gavin, Micah and Omar all have in common? They’re inconvenient killers.

The left supports the ideologies, black nationalism and Islam, in whose name they carried out their crimes so the media has to redirect attention away from the ideology to the individual.

It doesn’t matter that the killers were very clear about their motives. What matters is hiding the truth.

Every Muslim or #BlackLivesMatter terrorist is just a crazy, depressed loner unable to cope with life’s problems. Descriptions emphasize that they were not part of a group; particularly the groups that the media is attempting to carry water for. Instead Micah Johnson was “reclusive” even though he spent his time partying with a laundry list of racist black nationalist groups, including the New Black Panther Party.

Omar Mateen was a “loner.” Mohammed Bouhlel, the Nice killer, was a “troubled, angry loner with little interest in Islam”. Or perhaps he was a “bitter loner” or even a “weird loner” who became “depressed.”

The key word here is “loner.” Loners aren’t part of a group. When you call a Muslim terrorism a loner or a #BlackLivesMatter terrorist “reclusive”, then there’s no need to look at the movement they were part of. Loners have no movements. Neither do recluses. They’re just “weird” and “unstable” people who go crazy for incomprehensible reasons.

Like depression. Or the weather.

Propaganda rarely gets more obvious than this.

And it’s not just the media. The “troubled loner” narrative comes from the very top down.

Obama insisted that it was “very hard to untangle the motives” of the Dallas cop killer and that he would leave it to “psychologists” but that “the danger is that we somehow suggest the act of a troubled individuals speaks to some larger political statement across the country.”

Micah Johnson had been very clear about his motives. He was a black nationalist activist angry about #BlackLivesMatter issues who said that he wanted to kill white police officers.

Obama contended that Johnson was clearly crazy because, “By definition if you shoot people who pose no threat to you, you have a troubled mind.” By that definition, the Nazis were all “troubled.”

But Obama had cultivated no similar ambiguity after the Charleston massacre. Instead in his eulogy he said that Dylann Storm Roof “surely sensed the meaning of his violent act.  It was an act that drew on a long history of bombs and arson and shots fired at churches, not random, but as a means of control, a way to terrorize and oppress.”

And then he demanded that after the actions of one “troubled loner,” the Confederate flag had to come down across the country.

But not all troubled loners are created equal.

Roof’s massacre was part of a larger pattern and a bigger history. But each act of Islamic terrorism or black nationalist violence is purely of the moment and has no larger meaning. Its perpetrators are crazy and their political motives don’t matter. Even though Islamic terrorism has over 1,000 years of history behind it and violence associated with black nationalist groups goes back quite far, neither really exists.

Once again this is what propaganda looks like.

The “troubled loner” narrative is a tactical weapon of spin. When the killer is ideologically convenient, then he’s not a troubled loner, but a representative of a larger political movement. When he’s ideologically inconvenient, then his ideology will hardly be mentioned, only his personal problems.

Your average political terrorist who is willing to kill a bunch of people over the weekend will generally not have the perfect life sitting in his vest pocket. The odds will be very good that his apartment will be messy, his personal life messier and that plenty of people will remember him as a loner or strange.

Of course the same thing could have been said about Adolf Hitler and much of the Nazi elite.

Political radicalism attracts unstable people. This does not mean that we can ignore the ideologies of political radicals by reducing them to personal pathologies. Doing so with a political movement is dishonest and futile. The Nazis could not have been defeated by pretending that they didn’t exist.

It’s the political allies of a terrorist movement who are most likely to play the game of pretending that ideological atrocities are really personal quirks. And that we should focus on the latter not the former.

The media spin on Micah Johnson and Eugene Gavin Long, Omar Mateen and Mohammed Bouhlel is propaganda with a purpose. The purpose is protecting the media’s political allies from being linked to the atrocities being committed by their friendly neighborhood Islamists and black nationalists.

Every Muslim and black nationalist terrorist is crazy. Because the alternative is admitting that both movements use violence to achieve their goals. And that their political allies on the left are complicit in their crimes.

As the violence increases, so do the cover-ups. Anyone who reaches the obvious conclusion about Islamic terrorism and #BlackLivesMatter is dubbed a bigot. A rash of politically motivated killers are dismissed as lunatics. Gun control is revived, not just for its own sake, but as a convenient distraction. 

Just as the crimes of Communism dragged the left deeper into the cover-up with each bloody year, so too the crimes of Islam and black nationalism stain the left’s hands a darker shade of red every single month. And eventually there will be no choice left but to bring down the curtain and tell the truth.
"You have enemies?  Good.  That means that you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1721 on: July 19, 2016, 08:12:15 AM »
"The “troubled loner” narrative is a tactical weapon of spin. When the killer is ideologically convenient, then he’s not a troubled loner, but a representative of a larger political movement. When he’s ideologically inconvenient, then his ideology will hardly be mentioned, only his personal problems."
YES
if an isolated policeman in a Southern State guns down a black (in the rare event) he is never a troubled mentally ill person but a cold blooded killer who is part of a systemic racist police problem

But a Muslim guy screaming alal akbar (whatever)  while slaughtering innocents is never part of a larger systemic group that preaches hate terror and murder he is always a troubled young man who just needed a job etc....

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"Allahu Akbar"...
« Reply #1722 on: July 19, 2016, 08:41:36 AM »
The phrase, by the way - contrary to most media statements - translates NOT as "God is great,"  but as "Allah is GREATER" (than all other 'false' gods).
This is an important distinction.  Regardless - as Daniel Greenfield points out - even when a person is screaming this as he slaughters innocent people, he is simply "troubled."
"You have enemies?  Good.  That means that you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill.

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CNN propaganda
« Reply #1724 on: July 23, 2016, 11:48:33 AM »
"Just doing my job" - exactly playing the CNN jornolister's job of pushing identity and racial politics.  THAT is his job:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxcAN0t6GrI

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1725 on: July 25, 2016, 08:13:19 AM »
Got to watch those jornoLISTERS with a fine tooth comb.  Whatever happens to the Repub party they really need to spend big time on countering propaganda.


http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/24/facebook-calls-wikileaks-block-accident/

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1727 on: July 27, 2016, 06:35:03 AM »
"We failed in part because the mainstream media was having too good of a time to help. Last spring, Stop Trump operatives told me they brought damning stories to mainstream outlets. The response was usually: “We’re not interested in covering that — right now.”'

NO .  This is not why you "failed".
You "failed" because there simply was no other candidate that was acceptable.

As for media lack of interest in covering hit pieces on Trump.  That may be somewhat true but Trump is well known and already has very high negatives.  He "hit" himself many times with his own words and he was still # 1. 

No Jonah.  There simply is no other Republican who got it right. 

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Gaslighting
« Reply #1728 on: July 27, 2016, 04:56:08 PM »
http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/53547.html

Gaslighting

Posted by Sgt. Mom on July 26th, 2016 (All posts by Sgt. Mom)

There was a brief hiccup of indignation last week regarding the French police choosing to downplay the fact that the dead hostages taken by Islamist terrorists at the Bataclan music hall had been viciously tortured and their bodies mutilated. There was the same brief hiccup of indignation when it appeared that the German police likewise chose to downplay those instances of sexual abuse perpetrated on local women by so-called Syrian “refugees.” A commenter on one particular thread discussing this observed, acidly, that we were now well into Pravda and Izvestia country, where the published news stories must be carefully scrutinized and parsed to tease out the actual facts; what is released regarding certain occurrences is not meant to inform us. Instead, such reports are meant to appear as if we are being informed, but the actual intent is to conceal and not to offend those in political power.

I’ve begun to believe, though, that our establishment media and those elements of the Ruling Class (in the Anthony Codevilla sense) who control or collude with them are going well beyond simply obscuring current events – but are deliberately practicing a kind of mass-gaslighting on us all. Gas-lighting? Oh, yes; this is a definition, courtesy of the Urban Dictionary:

    A form of intimidation or psychological abuse, sometimes called Ambient Abuse where false information is presented to the victim, making them doubt their own memory, perception and quite often, their sanity … A more psychological definition of gaslighting is “an increasing frequency of systematically withholding factual information from, and/or providing false information to, the victim – having the gradual effect of making them anxious, confused, and less able to trust their own memory and perception.

False information presented – making us doubt our own memories and perception of events. Systematically withholding factual information from us. Having the gradual effect of making us anxious, confused, less able to trust.

Yep – we’ve been gas-lighted all right; and some of us more than others. I’d say that the African-American community is being royally gas-lighted by the Black Lives Matter organizing cadre, and the Democrat party has also been gas-lighted in a grand scale into believing (or pretending to believe) that Hillary Clinton is the most qualified presidential candidate evah! Barack Obama takes the absolute prize, though – in having gas-lighted himself into believing that he is the very best US President in our history.
Discuss.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1729 on: July 27, 2016, 05:00:27 PM »
DDF see my post under electoral process about pro and cons of felon voting.  Your question is a good one.  Why should a felon not be able to vote once they have paid their "debt" to society?


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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1730 on: July 28, 2016, 08:24:08 AM »
DDF see my post under electoral process about pro and cons of felon voting.  Your question is a good one.  Why should a felon not be able to vote once they have paid their "debt" to society?



I did see it. Unfortunately, there is not a single instance that I can think of where people are granted their freedom by the people that think they're superior, without massive conflict involved. They freed the lsaves. Look what that took.

I'll add, I read in interesting comment on there. that if you've ever driven while drinking, ever driven 15 miles over the speed limit (or anything else like that), you too are a felon that didn't get caught.

I'm not all that intereted in voting rights. I'm interested in full restoration of rights, without having to spend piles of cash that people don't have, in order to grant them that which apparently comes from a power greater than man (our rights).

Asking someone else's permission for your God given rights is just silly. If it is a case of someone committing a crime so grave (sexual, murder, treason), punish them accordingly, kill them, whatever, but don't paint them all with the same life sentence. You're just asking for a fight the moment you run across the right one, and God help people if they ever organize.

Unfortunately, in the real world, that presents some problems none of us want, but I understand it... both sides of it. not respecting someone else's rights is wrong 100% of the time.

People need to be more reasonable, and they almost never are, unless it costs them personally. That's the truth of it.

I'm no one's slave.


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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1732 on: July 28, 2016, 09:46:09 PM »
 :-o :-o :-o

That said, the point of Open vs. Closed is quite correct as are the comments about the costs of Closed.  What is utterly missing however is any kind of realistic assessment of the costs of Open in the current context.

The vapidity of the analysis is staggering.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1733 on: July 29, 2016, 07:30:11 AM »
The authors also don't consider that the globalist movement is not just about free trade but is even more importantly about the erasure of "borders", concept of country and sovereignty , and nation hood.

I am not against fair trade but I don't want to see our country disappear and we become subjects of the UN or some other single world leadership .


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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1735 on: July 30, 2016, 04:36:53 AM »
The authors also don't consider that the globalist movement is not just about free trade but is even more importantly about the erasure of "borders", concept of country and sovereignty , and nation hood.

I am not against fair trade but I don't want to see our country disappear and we become subjects of the UN or some other single world leadership .

The left and the bureaucrats may mix and conflate these but free trade and giving up sovereignty are two different matters.

Also, government picking winners and losers in industry via selective taxation  (tariffs) is an act of leftism no matter who commits it.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1736 on: July 30, 2016, 07:28:12 AM »
Drifting away from the subject of this thread , , ,

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Re: Did Snopes carry water for Dems?
« Reply #1739 on: August 02, 2016, 07:30:37 AM »
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/busted-leading-fact-check-site-caught-lying-for-democrats?utm_source=BPR&utm_medium=BPR&utm_campaign=BPR

It's good to know but quite an uphill battle to know Snopes, PolitiFact, Google and Facebook are all against us in addition ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, AP, Reuters, NYT, LAT, WashPost, StarTrib etc, (plus nearly all k-12 teachers, college professors and curriculum writers).

This article makes it sound like PolitiFact is the more reliable source.  In this one case, yes.  Overall, no, IMHO.  They are not generally able to keep their bias out of it.

I think I'd rather see two opposing sides debate a fact rather than have one source of unknown reliability become known as definitive.

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth, NY Times
« Reply #1740 on: August 02, 2016, 08:07:36 AM »
POSTED ON JULY 27, 2016 BY PAUL MIRENGOFF IN 2012 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, MEDIA BIAS, RUSSIA
THE NEW YORK TIMES: TWO CONFLICTING EDITORIALS, ONE CYNICAL MOTIVE
James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal captures the shameless partisanship of the New York Times in just a few sentences. The sentences come from editorials that appeared in 2012 and 2016 regarding the views of the Republican presidential candidates on Russia.

Here is the New York Times on March 29, 2012:

Two decades after the end of the cold war, Mitt Romney still considers Russia to be America’s ‘No. 1 geopolitical foe.’ His comments display either a shocking lack of knowledge about international affairs or just craven politics. Either way, they are reckless and unworthy of a major presidential contender.

Here’s the Times today, July 27, 2016:

Regardless of whether Mr. Putin is out to help Mr. Trump, voters would be right to question the judgment of a candidate who has shown so much admiration for such a dangerous adversary.

Credit:  James Taranto, WSJ
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/07/the-new-york-times-two-conflicting-editorials-one-cynical-motive.php


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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth, NY Times
« Reply #1742 on: August 02, 2016, 06:54:42 PM »
POSTED ON JULY 27, 2016 BY PAUL MIRENGOFF IN 2012 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, MEDIA BIAS, RUSSIA
THE NEW YORK TIMES: TWO CONFLICTING EDITORIALS, ONE CYNICAL MOTIVE
James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal captures the shameless partisanship of the New York Times in just a few sentences. The sentences come from editorials that appeared in 2012 and 2016 regarding the views of the Republican presidential candidates on Russia.

Here is the New York Times on March 29, 2012:

Two decades after the end of the cold war, Mitt Romney still considers Russia to be America’s ‘No. 1 geopolitical foe.’ His comments display either a shocking lack of knowledge about international affairs or just craven politics. Either way, they are reckless and unworthy of a major presidential contender.

Here’s the Times today, July 27, 2016:

Regardless of whether Mr. Putin is out to help Mr. Trump, voters would be right to question the judgment of a candidate who has shown so much admiration for such a dangerous adversary.

Credit:  James Taranto, WSJ
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/07/the-new-york-times-two-conflicting-editorials-one-cynical-motive.php

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

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Lewandowski again
« Reply #1743 on: August 03, 2016, 03:46:56 PM »
I was glad when he was fired so what happens , he is hired by CNN after which when they note his partisanship point out "he is still paid by Trump" then set him up too.....

I thought he was going to be out of the  picture or at lest behind the scenes but instead CNN turns him into the topic.   

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/videos/a47283/corey-lewandowksi-birther/

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1744 on: August 12, 2016, 10:14:48 AM »
This is why Coumo of CNN is the only Cuomo I can stomach .  At least he is honest.  Hillary has been given a free ride by the MSM he says:

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/08/12/cnns-cuomo-comes-right-admits-couldnt-help-hillary-377744

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Re: Media, Ministry of Truth Issues
« Reply #1745 on: August 12, 2016, 12:57:51 PM »
This is why Coumo of CNN is the only Cuomo I can stomach .  At least he is honest.  Hillary has been given a free ride by the MSM he says:

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/08/12/cnns-cuomo-comes-right-admits-couldnt-help-hillary-377744


"She's gotten just a free ride."

You don't say.  :-D :-D :-D

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Re: The Guardian tries taking down MEMRI
« Reply #1748 on: August 15, 2016, 07:25:04 PM »

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From Instapundit: Media coverage on Bush vs. Obama
« Reply #1749 on: August 18, 2016, 06:10:35 PM »


FLASHBACK: OBAMA RIPPED BUSH’S ‘UNCONSCIONABLE INEPTITUDE’ DURING HURRICANE KATRINA.

Today, Obama is out golfing with “actor/Seinfeld creator Larry David and business exec/Obama Campaign fundraiser Jonathan Lavine,” CBS White House correspondent Mark Knoller tweets.

Incidentally, after her party and its media fully exploited the crisis to take back the House and Senate in 2006, DNC chairwoman Donna Brazile finally confessed at CNN, “Bush came through on Katrina.”

UPDATE: “David Toms knows full well he’s on shaky ground where the FedExCup is concerned,” PGA Tour.com reports. “Only 125 players advance to next week’s Playoffs. He’s 121st — just 11 points removed from the bubble boy – so Toms was planning on playing in the Wyndham Championship that begins Thursday. Life got in the way, though. Toms is from Louisiana, born and bred. And while his home in Shreveport was spared serious damage from the recent relentless rains, family in Baton Rouge felt Mother Nature’s wrath. So just before noon on Wednesday, Toms made the decision to withdraw from the Wyndham Championship. He was replaced in the field by Andres Romero, who comes to Sedgefield ranked 195th in the FedExCup. ‘I had it all worked out,’ Toms said. ‘I know I am in a precarious position with the FedExCup. ‘But some things are more important than golf.’”

But not if you’re our semi-retired POTUS in full lame duck YOLO mode, it seems.